From my recollections as told to me by Bill Gove, who is a retired forester and forestry history buff living in Vermont... Until the mid 1960s, that entire operation was essentially frozen in time. When the lot was lumbered out, the company that had built the lumber camp (actually, it was more like a village) just up and left. As I was told, it was intact down to the coffee pots on top of the wood stoves in the bunkhouses. Apparently fearful of squatters moving in and establishing a community, the Maine State Forestry Dept., or whatever the agency was called at the time, was charged with the task of destroying the site, so they sent someone from Augusta up there (and it's quite a task to get to the location). No one from the State had actually been in there and they relied on hunters and trappers for information on the condition of things. When the agent from Augusta saw it for the first time and saw how pristine it was, he made his way back to the nearest phone, called Augusta, and asked if anyone there had SEEN the place (amazed, as he was, with having seen this veritable museum of 1920s-era logging technology). He was told in no uncertain terms to "Burn it!!!". So he went back and burned it. Everything. The lake boat (which had a walking beam engine), the locomotive engine house (those engines came from the New York Central I believe), the bunkhouses, log sluices, drag lines, mill buildings... EVERYTHING! I was recently at the Maine State Museum in Augusta (across the parking lot from the State House--it's an absolutely SPECTACULAR museum) and asked if they had anything from the Eagle Lake and West Branch. They had no idea what I was talking about. Imagine that!
Actually Steam could make a comeback in a huge way. Volkswagen back in the 90's actually made a 220 hp prototype steam engine that could get up to temperature in 30 seconds. Never came to mass production due to no consumer interest. However I think it had more to do with the oil industry. dyler.com/posts/317/the-volkswagen-engine-prototype-that-did-not-need-oil-or-conventional-fuel
@@heyokawalker197 another gem of a steam car would be 1925 Doble E-20 Steam Car ruclips.net/video/rUg_ukBwsyo/видео.html 132.5 mph 150hp 1000 footpunds
Been there by boat, one year when the water was real high. The engines, tracks and other material was brought in over the ice and assembled. There where no tracks coming in to there. The rivers and lakes were the roads. The rail was to move logs to the south bound route, water, that ran from lake to river until the logs hit the Penobscot River where they were run to Old Town Bangor area mills and sawn in to lumber. Then loaded on ships.At that time Bangor Maine was the richest city in the U.S. maybe the world, 265 saw mills on the river from Old Town to Bangor, about 15 miles. Eventually they built dams and reversed the flow of water that ran north. The trains became obsolete. You missed all the rail cars on a side spur in the same area. Further out on the rail line from there, out over the lake, you can see where they dumped the logs in the lake. Last I heard they were trying to semi restore some of the equipment. It really is in the middle of no where. Probably 150 or more miles from Bangor. Many miles of dirt logging roads and then trails.
How many other rail cars are there other than the locomotives themselves? Lots of parts are needed. The passenger cars, box cars, cabooses themselves could be airlifted out. It cool to have locomotives and tenders but you need to have the rest of the train. I'm sure the switches and signs are equally valuable. Actually all the parts of even the mills themselves and quarters are worth something to some community looking to preserve a time in history and generate tourism. History is rusting through our fingers. Do it for your great grand kids educations, 150 to 200 years from now. 60 years from now you will regret that you did nothing.
@@dewhittjames There where maybe 6 cars. Flat beds with wood sides, looked like for hauling logs or 4' pulp wood. They are in a line tucked in the wood near the locomotives and on a track. It's all grown up around them. Can't remember a caboose, probably no need since they had a short haul just moving wood. there is also a big wood structure along the water with tracks on it, I believe thats where they dumped the wood in the lake for it's trip down river.
@@WESTOFEDEN71 There should be footage of the last log drive on Machias River. I think on youtube. It was considered bad for the environment, so they built roads all over the woods, along the river, cut trees and dug pits for gravel to do it. What was worse? Might look up log booms too. millions of board feet of logs circled by cable being pulled by steam ships across lakes.
My first job out of high school was working on log rafts sorting out logs to be processed by the paper mill near my home. We used small work boats and pushed the bundles of logs to the sorting area where we unstrapped the logs. I ran on the logs while wearing 'caulk boots', pronounced 'cork' boots. They have dozens of small metal spikes to grip on the bark of the logs. I used a 15 foot pike pole to push the logs into position for the crane to lift them into the mill. We stayed on the river during the entire shift. Had a floating lunch shack and toilet. The best part was the fact my grandfather did the same type of work back in the 1920's and 1930's. Those jobs are gone now, but I look back fondly on those evenings running on the rafts in the bay near my home.
Yes. I caught the very end of the waterway transportation of forest products to the mills back in the mid 70's. Ironically enough, my next job was setting chokers for a helicopter logging company on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state. And that was cutting edge technology for its time. Now I raise vegetables and spoil grandchildren. Thank you for prompting some wonderful memories. I wish you many exciting adventures. And keep posting them for folks like me, who love to see them.
The one with the cab is a 1911 Baldwin 2-8-0 logging locomotive that was EX-NYC, it sank in the mud. An had new tracks and roadbed built under it. It is up to the state of Maine to remove and restore the locomotive. Due to Maine owning the locomotive The one with no cab is a Baldwin 4-8-0 Ten wheeler that has a unknown year and origin, the tracks and roadbed were also rebuilt. I did my hardest research on this locomotive and it was really hard to find the name and model of this locomotive. If you have anymore to add on, then comment below.
yes, as a father of 3 now-grown kids who were huge Thomas fans, especially the younger two, I instantly thought of Hero of The Rails when Thomas finds an old japanese locomotive sitting on an abandoned spur, and sets about restoring him to operation.
I visited these 40 years ago and still have pictures. We canoed in from the south end of Eagle lake, fished and camped for a week. Thanks for the video, brings back memories.
Thank you for making the video. Being a New England guy I can appreciate the history of the area and it breaks my heart to see those once proud iron giants just dying alone in the forest.
We need more videos like this to show our kids and grandchildren what life was like before public transportation ,malls, and cars. The things that are taken for granted now. Someone started this country with hard work and a vision.
He still missed all of the terms for the switch. Couldn't tell in the video if that was a real switch, or just a sign. (Didn't see the frog for a switch.)
Why do you get so upset/excited when he says trains/locomotives. Are there more important things in your life??? Who cares about nonchmenture any way They are just going to rust into the ground
Thanks for going out there and video taping it. I love all the extra history information as well. If you didn't do this i would have never gotten to see this. I'd love to go out there but between severe fibromyalgia (chronic pain) and more importantly my lack of funds I don't think that's going to happen. It's nice to see that someone is out there partially maintaining the area for visitors. And thanks to RUclips and guys like you I can explore from home. And you provide all the needed information needed to have any clue what's ever of what things are for or rather were for. Plus after abandoning my cats for two weeks at Christmas they won't let me leave again. Ever.
Hi Dylan, thanks for all the effort you put into the making of these Videos!You also provide alot of information besides about the History behind all of it!Great work from great guys!Keep up the good Spirit!
Thank you for calling them locomotives and being concise, and not mislabeling what you saw. There are some you tube videos of this marvelous place in history, and they have no idea what they are seeing, mislabeling items. Thank you for encouraging, yet not misinforming your views of what they are observing.
I used to work as a Counselor / Photog in a Maine Summer Camp. Have sent this vid's link to the camp. Hopefully, the Campers will visit the site. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS AMAZING VID. Maybe you could do some exploring and find other cool and little Northern Maine Sitez; logging camps, abandoned lumbering, farming and mining towns. Wouldn't be great to find an abandoned town with a grass runwayed airport with some abandoned cars and planes left behind !
Really well done production Dylan. Great camerawork, great music, great little history lesson, great adventure. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing!
There are to stay in the woods ..they are a monument to the great loggers of northern Maine I love in northern Maine them staying where there are mean alot to us mainers
How the hell would they get them out? There’s no roads, the railroad is either gone or beyond operating condition, and even if you did have a truck or something you couldn’t get it through the forest
Brings back a lot of good memories of when I did the complete Allagash Waterway 30 years ago. We had to portage at this point between Chamberlain and Eagle Lake. I see they have done some work there to show how the process worked.
I really appreciate you sharing this! I'm in Alabama so i doubt i'll ever be able to go visit these in person. I think it's sad that before our cell phones and the technology were used to having now, people actually had to have a lot of ingenuity to be able to design and bring to life things like those locomotives that rarely exist now. Again thank you for your video!
Normally I could careless about an old "train" , but this was so cool. I really enjoyed this well made video. Thank you for broadening my interests in the American history .
Dude I haven't been on your channel in a while, but I've been here since a couple hundred subs. The aesthetic of your vlogs have totally changed, and I totally love it. Amazing job, dude. Can't wait to see more. Good luck on the amazing adventure you get to call life.
This is both cool and sad. It breaks my heart seeing these once beautiful locomotives reduced to rusting hulks, but it's also beautiful to see how nature has taken over. I especially loved the shot of the tree growing around the wheel.
These locomotives are relics of the Eagle Lake and West Branch Railroad. It was a 13 mile long railroad that hauled timber from the Allagash region of northern Maine. It ran from 1927 to 1933. During the great depression, demand for paper dramatically decreased and the railroad was mothballed in 1933. Great Northern Paper, which owned and operated the railroad, found it more economical to ship by using trucks when business returned after World War II. It became a popular destination for snowmobilers in the 1960's, becoming the victims of relic seekers. In 1969, the shed the locomotives were stored in was burned to the ground. That also destroyed the wooden cab of one of the locomotives. Since then, the locomotives have been left to the elements. Currently, the locomotives and nearby tramway are owned by the State of Maine Department of Conservation and are being preserved in their current state as a historic site and a testament to Maine's logging heritage.
I don't have time to scroll through all the comments to see if this is already there. However, the locomotives are former New York Central and last belonged to the Eagle Lake and West Branch Railroad. They were brought in by skidding them over the frozen lakes. There used to be an enginehouse and the locos were intact. However, a dunderheaded park service employee misunderstood his instructions when he was told to torch all the old buildings at the logging camp. He was NOT supposed to torch the enginehouse. So there they sit and rot exposed to the elements with all their wood burned off.
sjwhitney Maybe that's how they get them out of there to be restored for static display. Wait till winter comes the lake freezes then skate the engines across the lake. Then bring back building materials to build a new Roundhouse and then bring the engines back after being restored and put them in the new Roundhouse.
I kind of wish I could get them out of there, a much better service could be used in my local town where the old B&O line runs through with a restored station as well. They would love to have a classic 2-8-0 repainted and re-numbered to fit the setting. After all these are going to just rot away, it's best to utilize them in a better fashion where people will treat them as they are meant to be treated. All I would need is one, and preferably the one with cab intact.
Reason for checkpoint's isn't just to maintain the road's. That log truck you went by, is upwards of 13 feet wide, and the roads beyond the gate are privately owned by the logging companies. So it's a safety thing to account for who's going where. Should have a MURS radio too if you're running those roads, maps like you said, good idea. People down below don't realize, it's literally in the middle of the woods, cellphone coverage is nonexistent. But there's plenty of great fishing holes, so that makes up for it in my book. Thanks for visiting Maine and sharing these Loco's. Been awhile since I've seen 'em.
it's so serene and intriguing to see this, tysm for uploading this. It just has this nice feeling in the forest and its really nostaglic in a certain way in videos like this.
Mitchell Hogg they're still salvageable...at least one anyway. couldn't get a good look at the other one. hell, one still has the drainage pipe and that's usually one of the first things to rust off
Warren Adams Well these locomotives can be restored. They aren't pass the point of no return. In fact, it seems only a few of the parts need replacing or restoration. I've seen locomotives in a EVEN worst state than these ones. For example, there was a Scrap yard in the U.K. called Barry Island. A couple hundred withdrawn locomotives ended up there and were ,Oddly, left to rust away instead of being scrapped. I suggest you Google some images of the old scrap yard, you won't believe how badly the engines looked in the yard. And what's even more unbelievable is that over 2/3rds of locomotives were restored and are currently still in use today.
Even if these engines were able to be restored, I don't see a way to get them out of there without chopping down thousands of trees or air lifting them. And, well, air lifting a steam engine is a stretch. I think it's best that they are left there as a relic of the past
Very Nice Footage you provided here with this video. My son who is 19 now knows everything about the era and has taught me so much. A part of America History rarely ever spoke about .
As somebody that lives in Maine you can leave my states trains alone. They are there as a monument to the loggers such as my grandfather and great uncle's
@Old Iron Building new ones would be a lot cheaper and more practical. The blue prints are most likely available some where or measurements could be taken from the originals.
Hey Dylan, this is the first time I've seen one of your videos and I have to say it was a pretty awesome adventure. I've been fascinated with trains/locomotives (😉) since I was a child; specifically steam locomotives. So being able to see something like this - in person or otherwise - is truly amazing. Thank you so much for posting this video, because it documents some of America's lost history.
I'm happy to forgive the lack of proper terms on some names of parts...he did a lot of work to get to that location to show everyone these amazing old locomotives. Thanks for your efforts!
Stationary steam engines. Originally they were probably decommissioned locomotives themselves converted to stationary units to provide power for logging equipment or other industries. This often happened and several really ancient locos have been found this way. These were probably early locos from the 1860's to '70's. By the early 1900's they'd have been too small for the trains which had become too heavy for them, so they got themselves a second life as power plants. They might even have been the predecessors of the locos you found
I like your video Dylan. It's nice that you explained a little about what you were seeing and how you came about finding this place. Keep it up Friend.
It makes me sad to see those beautiful Steam Engines in that state. Sadder yet knowing they one day will only be a red stain in the Forrest. They are beyond saving, might be able to use them as patterns for a rails up build, but I think that they even beyond that as well..
James Goode eh maybe but I've seen locos in far worse condition get restored. It all depends on what shape the frame is in edit:and how money your willing to spend
The boilers in those are almost certainly done for just by safety concerns alone, but you probably could fit a new boiler onto the original frames and make them run again. Just needs a big wallet is all.
No, not in a boiler. It's a misnomer. Under normal atmospheric pressure of 14.7 PSI, water vaporizes throughout to turn to steam. In steam engines, pressure is usually at 100 or more PSI. Water is not boiling, rather, the steam and water are at the same temperature, therefore, the water flashes into steam. So, usually the water and steam might be at 3 or 4 hundred degrees.
@@briandonlin9321 well the steam engines used branch lines you see .. branching off to small towns and picking up what farmers wanted to sale ..it was a team thing , everyone on same page of living .. now eggs come from states over verses the next town as an example... Yeah the steam tractor followed for sure sadly 😔 . Big Oil killed the American Dream in sooooo many ways it's surreal.
I know this is 3 years late. But I didnt see it in the few comments that I looked at. The old Steam Engine you found is called a "Donkey", they were used well even into the 70s, and a working one is still operating in Ontario.
Dylan Magaster it was like I was a kid on the woods of WV again, beautifully shot and edited. We have a long extractive history here too and lots of rusty stuff in the woods as well. Nice job!
Nice Job on the video and the music, I appreciated the light train whistle while the camera focused on some foliage about half way through the video. I use to spend summers on second lake with family about 15 miles in the woods off route 1 in machos back when the Whales back was open and this brought back a lot of memories. Great job.
IF ! There was still water in the boiler or the tender and IF ! You got it up to operating temp/pressure I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that old boiler when it let go !
Firebox in American terminology, Furnace in european terminology. I don't think these are all that abandoned either. Someone has been grooming the trail that leads to them, and the grass around them seems awful short- I would expect it to have grown up considerably more with shrubs and saplings emerging from it. Just, restoring one of these costs a ton of money. And if they aren't particularly rare or valuable, there they sit waiting for someone to retrieve them.
OK, confused by one thing...you went though all that hassle to get to those locomotives but when you got there it looked like a sort of museum with equipment and signs describing what was there. Why would that be? Shouldn't there be a more accessible way to get to that site?
Some good things you've got to want / work for. If they were easily accessible there would be tour buses and parking lots which would kill the hidden beauty of it and just make them " old trains on the side of the road "
I am so glad to hear someone say, "They are not trains, they are locomotives!" Thank you for stating it so well!
I still maintain the proper term is "Choo Choo"
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From my recollections as told to me by Bill Gove, who is a retired forester and forestry history buff living in Vermont...
Until the mid 1960s, that entire operation was essentially frozen in time. When the lot was lumbered out, the company that had built the lumber camp (actually, it was more like a village) just up and left. As I was told, it was intact down to the coffee pots on top of the wood stoves in the bunkhouses.
Apparently fearful of squatters moving in and establishing a community, the Maine State Forestry Dept., or whatever the agency was called at the time, was charged with the task of destroying the site, so they sent someone from Augusta up there (and it's quite a task to get to the location). No one from the State had actually been in there and they relied on hunters and trappers for information on the condition of things. When the agent from Augusta saw it for the first time and saw how pristine it was, he made his way back to the nearest phone, called Augusta, and asked if anyone there had SEEN the place (amazed, as he was, with having seen this veritable museum of 1920s-era logging technology). He was told in no uncertain terms to "Burn it!!!". So he went back and burned it. Everything. The lake boat (which had a walking beam engine), the locomotive engine house (those engines came from the New York Central I believe), the bunkhouses, log sluices, drag lines, mill buildings... EVERYTHING!
I was recently at the Maine State Museum in Augusta (across the parking lot from the State House--it's an absolutely SPECTACULAR museum) and asked if they had anything from the Eagle Lake and West Branch. They had no idea what I was talking about. Imagine that!
John Alan Roderick so sad to see it go. These days people care more about preserving history.
R.I.P steam era, you will be missed 😭
cough..cough...cough
Actually Steam could make a comeback in a huge way. Volkswagen back in the 90's actually made a 220 hp prototype steam engine that could get up to temperature in 30 seconds. Never came to mass production due to no consumer interest. However I think it had more to do with the oil industry. dyler.com/posts/317/the-volkswagen-engine-prototype-that-did-not-need-oil-or-conventional-fuel
Wayne Sheppard yes they will be MIST, ha ya get it
@@heyokawalker197 another gem of a steam car would be 1925 Doble E-20 Steam Car ruclips.net/video/rUg_ukBwsyo/видео.html 132.5 mph 150hp 1000 footpunds
R.I.P. Steam Era you were fun & will be missed: RUclips video: Santa Fe 3751 (Los Angeles-San Bernardino) Feat. High Speed Pace!
Been there by boat, one year when the water was real high. The engines, tracks and other material was brought in over the ice and assembled. There where no tracks coming in to there. The rivers and lakes were the roads. The rail was to move logs to the south bound route, water, that ran from lake to river until the logs hit the Penobscot River where they were run to Old Town Bangor area mills and sawn in to lumber. Then loaded on ships.At that time Bangor Maine was the richest city in the U.S. maybe the world, 265 saw mills on the river from Old Town to Bangor, about 15 miles. Eventually they built dams and reversed the flow of water that ran north. The trains became obsolete.
You missed all the rail cars on a side spur in the same area. Further out on the rail line from there, out over the lake, you can see where they dumped the logs in the lake.
Last I heard they were trying to semi restore some of the equipment.
It really is in the middle of no where. Probably 150 or more miles from Bangor. Many miles of dirt logging roads and then trails.
Awesome wonder if there's any old tv footage of it all.
I'd bet one day (hopefully) someone will.come along and do a full restoration
How many other rail cars are there other than the locomotives themselves? Lots of parts are needed. The passenger cars, box cars, cabooses themselves could be airlifted out. It cool to have locomotives and tenders but you need to have the rest of the train. I'm sure the switches and signs are equally valuable. Actually all the parts of even the mills themselves and quarters are worth something to some community looking to preserve a time in history and generate tourism. History is rusting through our fingers. Do it for your great grand kids educations, 150 to 200 years from now. 60 years from now you will regret that you did nothing.
@@dewhittjames There where maybe 6 cars. Flat beds with wood sides, looked like for hauling logs or 4' pulp wood. They are in a line tucked in the wood near the locomotives and on a track. It's all grown up around them. Can't remember a caboose, probably no need since they had a short haul just moving wood. there is also a big wood structure along the water with tracks on it, I believe thats where they dumped the wood in the lake for it's trip down river.
@@WESTOFEDEN71 There should be footage of the last log drive on Machias River. I think on youtube. It was considered bad for the environment, so they built roads all over the woods, along the river, cut trees and dug pits for gravel to do it. What was worse? Might look up log booms too. millions of board feet of logs circled by cable being pulled by steam ships across lakes.
@@WESTOFEDEN71 start here ruclips.net/video/K-eT4fmMeMk/видео.html
My first job out of high school was working on log rafts sorting out logs to be processed by the paper mill near my home. We used small work boats and pushed the bundles of logs to the sorting area where we unstrapped the logs. I ran on the logs while wearing 'caulk boots', pronounced 'cork' boots. They have dozens of small metal spikes to grip on the bark of the logs. I used a 15 foot pike pole to push the logs into position for the crane to lift them into the mill. We stayed on the river during the entire shift. Had a floating lunch shack and toilet. The best part was the fact my grandfather did the same type of work back in the 1920's and 1930's. Those jobs are gone now, but I look back fondly on those evenings running on the rafts in the bay near my home.
That is an incredible story. Interesting how quickly everything changes
Yes. I caught the very end of the waterway transportation of forest products to the mills back in the mid 70's. Ironically enough, my next job was setting chokers for a helicopter logging company on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state. And that was cutting edge technology for its time. Now I raise vegetables and spoil grandchildren. Thank you for prompting some wonderful memories. I wish you many exciting adventures. And keep posting them for folks like me, who love to see them.
Thanks for your comments Brian
Agreed.
Rip trains
Your my hero for playing thomas the dank engine.
Dominic Pryor fr tho I respect you
Dominic Pryor you are weird
Fedora of to you,mate
Right here!
good british export is Thomas the tank lol finest childrens creation in the world
Thank you Dylan, and Kelsea for making, and posting this video for those of us that can't make the journey to see for ourselves!
The one with the cab is a 1911 Baldwin 2-8-0 logging locomotive that was EX-NYC, it sank in the mud. An had new tracks and roadbed built under it. It is up to the state of Maine to remove and restore the locomotive. Due to Maine owning the locomotive
The one with no cab is a Baldwin 4-8-0 Ten wheeler that has a unknown year and origin, the tracks and roadbed were also rebuilt. I did my hardest research on this locomotive and it was really hard to find the name and model of this locomotive.
If you have anymore to add on, then comment below.
As a Thomas the Tank Engine fan, it'll be interesting to see these locomotives talk and tell the backstory of their careers/adventures.
yes, as a father of 3 now-grown kids who were huge Thomas fans, especially the younger two, I instantly thought of Hero of The Rails when Thomas finds an old japanese locomotive sitting on an abandoned spur, and sets about restoring him to operation.
Love your enthusiasm. I’ve been wanting to see those locomotives for years.
vid came up on my recommend feed. isn't it amazing to find stuff like this out there?
our world is awesome.
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I remember going exploring in the 80s and coming upon abandoned tracks and vehicles in the middle of nowhere. Love your videos.
"they're not trains they're locomotives"
*THIS GUY GETS IT*
I visited these 40 years ago and still have pictures. We canoed in from the south end of Eagle lake, fished and camped for a week. Thanks for the video, brings back memories.
Thank you for making the video. Being a New England guy I can appreciate the history of the area and it breaks my heart to see those once proud iron giants just dying alone in the forest.
We need more videos like this to show our kids and grandchildren what life was like before public transportation ,malls, and cars. The things that are taken for granted now. Someone started this country with hard work and a vision.
OH MY GOD YOU ACTUALLY NOTED THAT THE PROPER TERM IS LOCOMOTIVE
Easily excited aren't you?
His point when people are sensitive about the term... lol
He still missed all of the terms for the switch. Couldn't tell in the video if that was a real switch, or just a sign. (Didn't see the frog for a switch.)
HE SAYED TRAIN TRACKS REEEEEEEEEES
Why do you get so upset/excited when he says trains/locomotives. Are there more important things in your life??? Who cares about nonchmenture any way They are just going to rust into the ground
Thanks for going out there and video taping it. I love all the extra history information as well. If you didn't do this i would have never gotten to see this. I'd love to go out there but between severe fibromyalgia (chronic pain) and more importantly my lack of funds I don't think that's going to happen. It's nice to see that someone is out there partially maintaining the area for visitors. And thanks to RUclips and guys like you I can explore from home. And you provide all the needed information needed to have any clue what's ever of what things are for or rather were for. Plus after abandoning my cats for two weeks at Christmas they won't let me leave again. Ever.
Dude you had me at paper maps!
Fascinating that you tracked down the location of these decaying locomotives. I appreciate your considerable efforts.
They're very beautiful in that forest, but it would be amazing to see them preserved, they must be pretty rare now. Wow!
Hi Dylan, thanks for all the effort you put into the making of these Videos!You also provide alot of information besides about the History behind all of it!Great work from great guys!Keep up the good Spirit!
Nice to see something in the US that is not covered in graffiti, splendid video Thanks.
Thanks for making that hike and filming for us! great history there..
First time viewer of your video's...I am home alot do to my health it's an Awsome way to see these places...Thank you....
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I can walk a little with two canes or a Walker wish I could walk and run out of the rain yours evans w Robinson
Thank you for calling them locomotives and being concise, and not mislabeling what you saw. There are some you tube videos of this marvelous place in history, and they have no idea what they are seeing, mislabeling items. Thank you for encouraging, yet not misinforming your views of what they are observing.
I gave it a thumbs up, even though the man bun was nearly unbearable to watch.
Almost a relief when he put that towel on it .... but the bun remained underneath it all.
@Dave Potter awwwww poor snowflake
I know it's hard to get used to, but the man bun is a thing.
Get a life, he gave you something you would never have found out for yourself.
Thank you for saying so!
I used to work as a Counselor / Photog in a Maine Summer Camp. Have sent this vid's link to the camp. Hopefully, the Campers will visit the site. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS AMAZING VID. Maybe you could do some exploring and find other cool and little Northern Maine Sitez; logging camps, abandoned lumbering, farming and mining towns. Wouldn't be great to find an abandoned town with a grass runwayed airport with some abandoned cars and planes left behind !
Great video Dylan, I loved it and the background music was wonderful.
Robert Nun'ya
Really well shot and edited. Your camera person is very talented.
Really well done production Dylan. Great camerawork, great music, great little history lesson, great adventure. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing!
Dude those should be in a museum!
There are to stay in the woods ..they are a monument to the great loggers of northern Maine I love in northern Maine them staying where there are mean alot to us mainers
How the hell would they get them out? There’s no roads, the railroad is either gone or beyond operating condition, and even if you did have a truck or something you couldn’t get it through the forest
Brings back a lot of good memories of when I did the complete Allagash Waterway 30 years ago. We had to portage at this point between Chamberlain and Eagle Lake. I see they have done some work there to show how the process worked.
I really appreciate you sharing this!
I'm in Alabama so i doubt i'll ever be able to go visit these in person.
I think it's sad that before our cell phones and the technology were used to having now, people actually had to have a lot of ingenuity to be able to design and bring to life things like those locomotives that rarely exist now.
Again thank you for your video!
Normally I could careless about an old "train" , but this was so cool. I really enjoyed this well made video. Thank you for broadening my interests in the American history .
My Boy Scout troop did some brush clearing at this place
Dude I haven't been on your channel in a while, but I've been here since a couple hundred subs. The aesthetic of your vlogs have totally changed, and I totally love it. Amazing job, dude. Can't wait to see more. Good luck on the amazing adventure you get to call life.
Awesome! I am a train fanatic. Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Glad to see this randomly popped up on other peoples recommended videos as well
Be good for another episode of "will it run?"
Kaboom
This is both cool and sad. It breaks my heart seeing these once beautiful locomotives reduced to rusting hulks, but it's also beautiful to see how nature has taken over. I especially loved the shot of the tree growing around the wheel.
it's kinda peaceful to see machines rust away and taken over by nature
bravebluespino me exactly , there's something just beautiful about the abandoned world , probably peace of both worlds? Plant and metal
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These locomotives are relics of the Eagle Lake and West Branch Railroad. It was a 13 mile long railroad that hauled timber from the Allagash region of northern Maine. It ran from 1927 to 1933. During the great depression, demand for paper dramatically decreased and the railroad was mothballed in 1933. Great Northern Paper, which owned and operated the railroad, found it more economical to ship by using trucks when business returned after World War II. It became a popular destination for snowmobilers in the 1960's, becoming the victims of relic seekers. In 1969, the shed the locomotives were stored in was burned to the ground. That also destroyed the wooden cab of one of the locomotives. Since then, the locomotives have been left to the elements. Currently, the locomotives and nearby tramway are owned by the State of Maine Department of Conservation and are being preserved in their current state as a historic site and a testament to Maine's logging heritage.
I don't have time to scroll through all the comments to see if this is already there. However, the locomotives are former New York Central and last belonged to the Eagle Lake and West Branch Railroad. They were brought in by skidding them over the frozen lakes. There used to be an enginehouse and the locos were intact. However, a dunderheaded park service employee misunderstood his instructions when he was told to torch all the old buildings at the logging camp. He was NOT supposed to torch the enginehouse. So there they sit and rot exposed to the elements with all their wood burned off.
It's not every day that the National Park Service Destroys a historic landmark
sjwhitney Maybe that's how they get them out of there to be restored for static display. Wait till winter comes the lake freezes then skate the engines across the lake. Then bring back building materials to build a new Roundhouse and then bring the engines back after being restored and put them in the new Roundhouse.
Wow.
I kind of wish I could get them out of there, a much better service could be used in my local town where the old B&O line runs through with a restored station as well. They would love to have a classic 2-8-0 repainted and re-numbered to fit the setting. After all these are going to just rot away, it's best to utilize them in a better fashion where people will treat them as they are meant to be treated. All I would need is one, and preferably the one with cab intact.
AWESOME Dylan! I appreciate being able to see this bit of Americana, and I love old Steam Locomotives and Engines.
Gotta leave a thumbs up for this.
I live about an hrs or so away and never had heard about this.gonna have to check it out.thanx from Bangor Maine
Do it Jason!
Lol.
Jason..you are like 4 hours away from Bangor..Don't plan on a hour. Js
Reason for checkpoint's isn't just to maintain the road's. That log truck you went by, is upwards of 13 feet wide, and the roads beyond the gate are privately owned by the logging companies. So it's a safety thing to account for who's going where. Should have a MURS radio too if you're running those roads, maps like you said, good idea. People down below don't realize, it's literally in the middle of the woods, cellphone coverage is nonexistent. But there's plenty of great fishing holes, so that makes up for it in my book. Thanks for visiting Maine and sharing these Loco's. Been awhile since I've seen 'em.
Nice video of the two steam locomotives hiding in the woods! I live about 3 hours away from those locomotives.
As of growing up in Maine and still living in Maine this makes me happy I am definitely going there
beautiful place. I visited those locomotives as a teenager
it's so serene and intriguing to see this, tysm for uploading this. It just has this nice feeling in the forest and its really nostaglic in a certain way in videos like this.
be nice to restore the trains back to their former Beauty
Warren Adams i think nature's taken them past the point of no return...
Mitchell Hogg they're still salvageable...at least one anyway. couldn't get a good look at the other one. hell, one still has the drainage pipe and that's usually one of the first things to rust off
Warren Adams
Well these locomotives can be restored. They aren't pass the point of no return. In fact, it seems only a few of the parts need replacing or restoration. I've seen locomotives in a EVEN worst state than these ones. For example, there was a Scrap yard in the U.K. called Barry Island. A couple hundred withdrawn locomotives ended up there and were ,Oddly, left to rust away instead of being scrapped. I suggest you Google some images of the old scrap yard, you won't believe how badly the engines looked in the yard. And what's even more unbelievable is that over 2/3rds of locomotives were restored and are currently still in use today.
I like trains. And know al lot about them. These engines are far beyond state of repair. its just better to let them sit there.
Even if these engines were able to be restored, I don't see a way to get them out of there without chopping down thousands of trees or air lifting them. And, well, air lifting a steam engine is a stretch. I think it's best that they are left there as a relic of the past
3:09 Thank you, THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH for addressing this. I'm tired of people saying trains when referring to the locomotives
Great video Dylan, well edited too!
Thanks mate
Dylan Magaster you should find abandoned passenger cars and change them to a cottage
and ripe with wrong info
1:14 to 1:26 1:51 to 2:21 Thomas the dank engine
Dylan: You are a true artist with your voice, your camera, and your sense of adventure and imagination.
I love stuff like this, thanks!
Very Nice Footage you provided here with this video. My son who is 19 now knows everything about the era and has taught me so much. A part of America History rarely ever spoke about .
Looks like the area around them has been maintained.
Great blog Dylan,you´re such an inspiration! Keep up the good work!
We should rescue them and restore them to working condition!
Even from the video it was evident they had been stripped quite a bit. No parts for those left any more.
As somebody that lives in Maine you can leave my states trains alone. They are there as a monument to the loggers such as my grandfather and great uncle's
They could do with having some conservation work done on them otherwise they will just rust away and become dangerous.
Thst would mean built them newexsp the boiler The only parts you could use are the wheelsets. App 500 grand per engine 👎
@Old Iron Building new ones would be a lot cheaper and more practical. The blue prints are most likely available some where or measurements could be taken from the originals.
A great adventure video. The choo-choo trains may be old, but they are so cute!
Nice presentation. Well done!
Hey Dylan, this is the first time I've seen one of your videos and I have to say it was a pretty awesome adventure. I've been fascinated with trains/locomotives (😉) since I was a child; specifically steam locomotives. So being able to see something like this - in person or otherwise - is truly amazing. Thank you so much for posting this video, because it documents some of America's lost history.
This video was really well done, good job.
Great video. Just the right amount of talking, scenery, and some funny moments as well!
This is a railfans dream right here.
CK Pacific Railroad, I’ve been and honestly it really is, I feel super lucky to live near there
@@BlueAustinMaxi is your profile pic of Odin wolf
I'm happy to forgive the lack of proper terms on some names of parts...he did a lot of work to get to that location to show everyone these amazing old locomotives. Thanks for your efforts!
6:30 Yo that’s a steam donkey.
Stationary steam engines. Originally they were probably decommissioned locomotives themselves converted to stationary units to provide power for logging equipment or other industries. This often happened and several really ancient locos have been found this way. These were probably early locos from the 1860's to '70's. By the early 1900's they'd have been too small for the trains which had become too heavy for them, so they got themselves a second life as power plants. They might even have been the predecessors of the locos you found
Thomas the tank engine...THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have cured my everything
great stuff,,love to see that place,but i am far away in uk,keep up the good work
Cool. It is amazing to find historical locomotives in the woods. Wish I can start the service back in the woods.
Is that a historical site? There were trails that looked well used and there was a plaque with a description on it about the log carts.
Dylan Taylor yes it is
Yes it is a historic site. The title of "lost locomotives" is a farce as u can see. This site is one of many in the great north woods.
nicest video i’ve watched on youtube in as long as i can recall. thanks, man.
Good to see that toll money going to good use on the roads...
I could watch the footage of the walk in the woods for hours. Nicely done guys!
'They're not trains, they're locomotives". Judges would also have accepted "Choo-choos".
Very interesting. Thanks for making and sharing this video.
those two loco are just like brothers build together dies together
I like your video Dylan. It's nice that you explained a little about what you were seeing and how you came about finding this place. Keep it up Friend.
It makes me sad to see those beautiful Steam Engines in that state. Sadder yet knowing they one day will only be a red stain in the Forrest. They are beyond saving, might be able to use them as patterns for a rails up build, but I think that they even beyond that as well..
James Goode eh maybe but I've seen locos in far worse condition get restored. It all depends on what shape the frame is in
edit:and how money your willing to spend
James Goode it's very sad to see history rot away but one day we're all going to be red stains in the forest. Just enjoy the journey while you can.
The boilers in those are almost certainly done for just by safety concerns alone, but you probably could fit a new boiler onto the original frames and make them run again. Just needs a big wallet is all.
Superb job! I heard about these back in 1970 but never made the trek...thank you for sharing.
It is called a "boiler" it boiles water not a "combustion chamber"
Andy Play's [BogAco] actually, water doesn't boil in a boiler. the pressure is too high. it really flashes to stream
Johnnie Williams The action of the water transitioning into steam is "boiling"
No, not in a boiler. It's a misnomer. Under normal atmospheric pressure of 14.7 PSI, water vaporizes throughout to turn to steam. In steam engines, pressure is usually at 100 or more PSI. Water is not boiling, rather, the steam and water are at the same temperature, therefore, the water flashes into steam. So, usually the water and steam might be at 3 or 4 hundred degrees.
Andy [Xvixx] Our host is sort of clueless but he did take us to the site which I wouldn't have known now about with out his video
Bob Brawley, clueless enough to be out in the world seeing and doing things. what’s your excuse?
Thanks for the abandoned-locomotive story! Wonderfully presented and I’m exceptionally envious of your adventure. Maybe one day...
Did you get stuck in the rain?
Great piece of filming! Nice way to document history. Thanks for sharing.
i live in Fort Kent Maine and i toke a trip to Van Buren and on the way there i seen 37 abandoned homes on rte 1 i think you shoued go see them
Excellent camera work/shot composition.
HEARTBREAKING 😔😔 ... that's when poverty started in AMERICA when the Diesel killed the steam engine .
How about the farm tractor?
@@briandonlin9321 well the steam engines used branch lines you see .. branching off to small towns and picking up what farmers wanted to sale ..it was a team thing , everyone on same page of living .. now eggs come from states over verses the next town as an example... Yeah the steam tractor followed for sure sadly 😔 . Big Oil killed the American Dream in sooooo many ways it's surreal.
@@briandonlin9321 if you are familiar with Thomas the Tank Engine , Diesel 10 was the EVIL that made Soo much die " DIEsel" 😔🙁
They still roam around. The D&SNG in Colorado. Some others. Even Big Boy ran this last year. Good old 4014.
I know this is 3 years late. But I didnt see it in the few comments that I looked at. The old Steam Engine you found is called a "Donkey", they were used well even into the 70s, and a working one is still operating in Ontario.
Dylan , who was filming u all along ? .. He doesn't seem to have a voice .
My friend Kelsea was filming. Specifics about the films are always in the description! 😁
that was rly bugging me also, I didnt know if you were alone or with someone else
I kinda figured when both his hands were showing, and the camera was moving, another person had to be there.
I'm sure they do have a voice but it wasn't needed for this video..
Dylan Magaster it was like I was a kid on the woods of WV again, beautifully shot and edited. We have a long extractive history here too and lots of rusty stuff in the woods as well. Nice job!
Nice Job on the video and the music, I appreciated the light train whistle while the camera focused on some foliage about half way through the video. I use to spend summers on second lake with family about 15 miles in the woods off route 1 in machos back when the Whales back was open and this brought back a lot of memories. Great job.
How much trouble would one get into if they say,fired one up and got it out?????........ ;)
Do u even know how a locomotive works
IF ! There was still water in the boiler or the tender and IF ! You got it up to operating temp/pressure I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that old boiler when it let go !
bring a large air tank just to move it, but even then, there's too much rust and missing parts
Nice Dylan! Just subbed. Keep it up. Love abandoned videos. :)
And bro it's called the firebox not a furnace
Eh either works
No not really
Owen Meschter yeah not really a furnace.
yeah it's a firebox.
Firebox in American terminology, Furnace in european terminology.
I don't think these are all that abandoned either. Someone has been grooming the trail that leads to them, and the grass around them seems awful short- I would expect it to have grown up considerably more with shrubs and saplings emerging from it.
Just, restoring one of these costs a ton of money. And if they aren't particularly rare or valuable, there they sit waiting for someone to retrieve them.
The music is right on spot, and those flapping spider webs are great
OK, confused by one thing...you went though all that hassle to get to those locomotives but when you got there it looked like a sort of museum with equipment and signs describing what was there. Why would that be? Shouldn't there be a more accessible way to get to that site?
yep by rail
Some good things you've got to want / work for. If they were easily accessible there would be tour buses and parking lots which would kill the hidden beauty of it and just make them " old trains on the side of the road "
Great vid !! Very cool to see them.... but also sad to know they are just rusting away.....thanks for sharing this .
I visited them on my trip up the Alagash
Beatiful video....I love trains and locomotives, also nature, and you combine it in a pretty trip...
Great video! i wish i could find a couple guys in michigan that like to do this stuff.