Black people did not build the country alone . Mexicans built it and Indians built it as well as blacks. Black people just like to make blanket statements when they speak on there history.
Sis spoke facts! She also made a good point by saying that better than talk, play FBA music before HipHop and Puerto Rican music prior to HipHop and let that speak for itself!
I couldn't hear anything she said past half PR half FBA, Afro-Latina. She said she was black and black. People need to learn the difference between race and culture.
He came up with the name. But yes hip hop was already invented and going strong. Cool Herc, Afrikan B, haven't done enough to say they're second wave like the Puerto Ricans. Disco King Mario was the first wave aka the creators. Both Afrikan B, and Cool Herc studied under Mario.
Thank God FBA people are checking those who are lying about the creation of the culture. If we don't, then they will move on to other music like rock, jazz, funk, ect.😊
Nah homes, it ain't about krs 1 having his understanding and lord jamar having his understanding, it's about the truth. The truth is only one way, it's no different interpretations. HipHop culture is Black American culture and that's just what it is.
@@kevinhoyle8367ITS BLACK AMERICANS GENRE NO DAMN STREETS, get something going in you culture. You people have no imagination, skills or talent so that’s why you want to latch on to the beautiful black Americans culture. (How pathetic)
@@kevinhoyle8367when Hip-hop hit the block in the 1970s nyc had neighborhoods djs,MC and graffiti writers that was Black,Puerto Ricans and etc Everyone tried to rhyme on the microphone 🎤 The first record Hip-hop record was Rappers Delight
Thank you Jamar, finally a strong proud Black American. We Black Americans lived this culture. Our ancestors went through hell to create this culture and this culture brought us through hellish times. Thumbs down to coward bent back KRS and LL Cool J
Hey Puerto Ricans, Caribbean and Africans Can you show me and FBA your version of Michael Jackson, Marvin Gaye, Prince, James Brown, Prince, Whitney Houston, Patti labell, Aretha Franklin, Earth wind and fire, The Temptations, The Delfonics Since we FBA don't have a Culture and we Copied From y'all Culture, I'll wait!!!
Nobody is trying to exclude No One.Hip-Hop as a Collective is a Nation and a Global Community now.But The Truth is The Truth.And that is The Indigenous Indian aka reclassified Negro.The so called Black,Melenated,Afro American aka African American aka The Nagas aka The Niggas.Birthed and Fashioned Hip-Hop Culture and Music.That's just a Natural Fact of life on The Soil of The America's.😎👍🏾
@15:57, PR people took salsa and tried to make it seem as if they started salsa. The young Puerto Ricans need to watch Celia Cruz’s documentary to get a deeper understanding and gain true knowledge, when it comes to salsa
Cubans did. The Puerto Ricans in NY popularized and refined it. Puerto Ricans started bachata. Dominicans popularized and refined it. I swear y'all just repeat shit.
Salsa itself is a mix of different Cuban genres but the Mastermind of Salsa, the one who fused the Cuban genres together, created the sound and came up with the name Salsa was a Dominican, Johnny Pacheco. Pacheco was the one who gave Puerto Ricans their shot to shine through his record label, Fania Records. The thing about Salsa though is when Colombians Venezuelans Argentinians and others started making Salsa we embraced them. Some of my favorite Salsa musicians are Colombian. Bachata in itself also has Cuban origin because it is derrived from Cuban Bolero but it was played with a guitar in Dominican Countrysides. Bachata is 100% Dominican.
Salsa is a mix of Cuban genres but the Mastermind the one who mixed those genres together and named the genre Salsa was a Dominican, Johnny Pacheco. Pacheco was also the one who gave Puerto Ricans their opportunity to shine through his record label, Fania Records. Some of the Best Salsa Musicians are Puerto Ricans. If it wasn't for Hispanic unity Salsa would've never blew up. We never shunned Colombians Venezuelans Argentinians etc.. when they started making Salsa music even though they weren't involved in it's creation. Hispanics in general tend to stick together.
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng really? That's news to me. You may want to quantify that. My wife is born and raised in South Florida. Grew up with all divisions of Latinos. She paints a VERY different picture. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've witnessed enough between my own friends of Latino decent that it's not as sweet as people think.
@conconjean3921 I completely agree and we FBA really should start a campaign to cancel and forsake him because he's been on some bull$hit for a minute now. HE'S NOT FOR US!!!!
@@kingjoeblack5 Yup, we do. Include Louis Farrakhan, Stokely Carmichael, Shirley Chisholm, and Marcus Garvey to name just a few….. How the you gonna discount where his Father is from?!? Like his DNA ain’t part of the equation?!?
I'm from Atlanta Georgia and I lived in the South Bronx on Costa and Minda Street Hunts point Area and the #6 Train took me home and Puerto Ricans and Black's FBA didn't even get along like that, I'm not saying that we were separated I'm saying that we didn't even get along like that in the Bronx
Back in the day Z100 radio was born and Hispanics in New York went over there with their urban music. Z100 was White and Hispanic mainly. New York Radio Stations were 99% segregated and they still pretty much are unlike the rest of America.
Lord Jamar, you’ve always been one of the staples and hip-hop you don’t have to or try to explain anything when these people log off of the computer or the curtain closes on their performances. They know the foundation of the music is based on.
The original roots of Hiphop is Foundational Black Americans.. However, like all religions, other people can come and graft themselves into that religion/culture.. change the God figure of the original and make it their own. The tragedy is that the graft sucks the life from the original religion/culture and feeds from the original root.. growing into something different.. usurping the original life of that culture.😊 Eventually, the grafted becomes the Jew that say they are with their mouths, but really isn't the original.. they just want the title to capitalize from it. So, if we are not careful, we will once again be buried builders while others capitalize from all of our efforts😮.
@enriqueontiveros265 You think Salsa is the origin of Hiphop? I'm with it. So, Salsa started in Cuba and then combined with Jazz in Ametica.. another Foundational Black culture. Anyway.. from there, a Cuban came to the Hood and began doing that dance on the dance floor where Black people were doing the many other dances they started.. watched the Cuban guys and began doing that dance before the DJ opened his mouth.. before the DJ allowed the DJ to hype the party? Doesn't make good sense, does it? Help me understand how HIPHOP started with Salsa dance.
@@aimmortalslegacy2189 not hip hop but break dancing specifically the youngsters were shunned from the salsa clubs for spinning and dancing on the floor so they took it outside to the block parties in New York and that was part of the beginning
@enriqueontiveros265 You said the Origin of Hiphop started with Salsa. So you are saying Break Dancing started first with Cuban youngsters adding on to Salsa while dancing at adult Salsa clubs.. the adults shunned them and they brought it to the block where it was introduced to Afro Latina.. Afro American and Afro others their age... THEN the DJ came in.. THEN the MC came in?
Raggeaton. Spanish rap comes from Jamaican reggae that was made into party music in Panama. Later artists started to "rap". Spanish rap really comes from the Carribbean but Black Americans think that Spanish rap is Hispanics trying to copy Black Americans. That's false
JoseMarrinez-bh1ng you are wrong. Black Americans are fully aware that reggaeton started with a Black Panamanian, El General. You aren’t standing on facts. Second, Latin rap is still influenced by American hip hop. You’re wrong on both parts
Also, I want to state for us to just come together and not be so divisive! If these are just think about it, no matter where their parents are or whatever their culture that they feel like that they have to illuminate if they were in hip-hop, they know they rode the wave on every foundational black Americans swag, style, lingo, and now all of a sudden they want to try to separate themselves from FBA’s! And it’s so funny most of these artists who are trying to bring their culture to the forefront, even though they’re black just like we are rarely used any of these elements of their culture, whether it was Jamaican or Puerto Rican probably less than one percent, maybe a couple songs they might’ve use their accent, but they know that they was riding on what we built and the foundation of the culture so it’s OK to be proud to have another type of ethnicity or where you were your parents might’ve originated but to now try to make it like your music or career, was built on something other than foundation of black Americans music
Man it’s a real war. This you tube app has made all my comments invisible like a slave owner trying to cut off communication between black folks…what tf is REALLY goin on ?! 😅
KRS-1 claim to fame is two things. One is the Bridge beef with Shan and Marley and the second is when he got on the wrong side of the Beef industry with his song "Beef" and he backed up off criticizing the Beef lobby real fast.
@@newelldavis1858 I get it. I was just pointing out the two main things. I am aware that he is a Hip Hop Legend and that is what makes this Traitorous act so disappointing. Lord Jamar is RIGHT. Your integrity must come before Money. KRS was deceptive in his language and is helping to try to rob FBA of our legacy so F*ck KRS-1 until he comes out and does a 180.
Hip hop comes from funk music, which both originated in America, reggae comes from the blues, but americans dont claim reggae bcuz it originated in Jamaica. Other groups had they're slight influence through the years, but to say they created it is a huge lie!! Blk Americas r known for cookouts" in which loud music is playing & people r dancing and having fun, so to say koolherc invinted hip hop bcuz he dj block partys is b.s, he had to come to America to be who he was! 😂blk Americans been talking and telling storys over beats since the 1920s /1940s blk Americas r the blueprint those r just historical facts
The Coasters made an album before hip-hop was created. Every song they were rhyming on it. You can take those vocals and match them over hip-hop beats and you'll hear origins
Go listen to Big daddy Kanes drink champ interview,,and GrandMaster caz vlad interview,,they clearly tell u that blacks created hip hop...In fact,,they said that there was many black American DJs before kool hert,,but kool hert gets credit for creating hip hop because he was the first to DJ in the public parks,,causing him to be well known to media platforms.....Also just for the record,,kool hert copied black American old school funk and soul records to make his beats,,and he was in fact just a DJ not a rapper...Also,,Grandmaster caz clearly said that Puerto Ricans joined into hip hop later by dancing to the beats,,and only had 1 or 2 Puerto rican rappers compared to hundreds of black American rappers...In other words,,black Americans started Hip hop,,and Puerto Ricans liked what they saw and decided to join in.....Also just for the record,,black Americans were rapping for fun over soul and funk beat instrumentals inside our homes in the 50s 60s and 70s,,way before we started making studio rap songs...In fact,,there are many black R & B and funk soul groups from the 50s 60s and 70s that had rap skits on there song,,in which is more evidence that black Americans created hip hop....DUH 😳
KOOL HERC 💪🏽Started The Party. He brought out The Turn Tables. He played Music that he liked and it happened to be Black American Disco Music and Black American Uptempo Soul Music. Young Black Americans were the first people to get on the Mic, Chantin, Talkin Fly, Gettin the Party Hyped Up and Showing Major Love to the DJ. The majority of people at the parties were Black Americans due to the Music Selection. There were definitely Latinos present Who Love Soul and Disco🕺🏽Music but the MAJORITY of the Latino community were more into Salsa, Bachata etc at the time and still are. Also The MAJORITY of the Jamaican/Carribean community were more into Reggae, Dancehall Etc. at the time and still are. There is an argument of Who Was Present? Really almost everyone who lived in the neighborhoods witnessed it. Also.. What Culture influenced Hiphop the most? HIPHOP’s biggest influence is Black American Music. It’s not a coincidence that the Majority of Rappers are Black Americans.
KRS AIN’T FROM THE BRONX . LETS START THERE. HE’S FROM FLATBUSH BROOKLYN. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST SHAM IN HIP HOP . HE MET DJ SCOTT LA ROCK AT THE BRONX SHELTER.
Rap and Hip Hop came from the south, From the Black Church and R&B Music, We FBA will Create a new Style of Music coming Soon and let's see How Follows Who But we are going to gatekeep our culture for years and years to come
Look how the whole world copied drill rap got people in other countries feeling like chief keef got Jamaicans rapping about crocodile teeth... Drill rap started all that ... Everybody copy FBA
Hate to say this but Kris and Joe are always embellishing things for political reasons. That may be part of the reason why they continue to evolve and adapt in hip-hop.
So eloquently said, and I agree, some of my response was based on a missed opportunity for Utopia! The only thing we could do at this point is to be respectful and mindful, the unity that we had started as long passed!
This is how culture gets stolen when you try to ascrib it to a catch all (africa). Africa had nothing to do with the creation of our culture here in america = the end.
Nothing absolutely Nothing would lead u to believe anyone but black Americans invented hip hop. Everything was previously laid in place by black people that led to the birth of hip hop. The dances, the slick talking and rhyming. Soul music. The other genres that we created. All fingers point to FBA. Black folks from all over the country rap and break and DJ. Why didn't they do that on the island of Puerto rico while they folks here were doing it?
Hip Hop came from the Soul and RnB music of the 60s & 70s, the music that the Black children of the Bronx grew up listening to, now if you can play some Spanish music that influenced it, I’m all ears, but the problem is, you can’t! Because the youth didn’t grow up listening to that to create Hip Hop! If you wanna keep it all the way real, Black folk created they music to, they just used European instruments to do it, or whatever else they could find to make a sound!
He Correct Hip Hop is a Black Culture but I Love my Family on both sides and I grew up around Blacks and Spanish people that was Cool and Understand the Struggle in the neighborhood. I come from the Original Lord Jamar Peace G Respect excellent content
The beauty of these conversations is that it fosters healthy debate and it gets us talking about HIP HOP and that’s a good thing I just wish it was focused more on how can we as a collective work to preserve it in its purest form! Love brand Nubian I’m still a lord Jamar fan although I disagree and that’s ok!
Out of the 4 elements of hip hop i only see 2 elements where Puerto Ricans might have contributed and thats Breakin and Graffiti. DJ'ing and MC'ing is all black straight up. Those are the two earliest, most important founding elements.
Back in the 80s when hip hop was popping off and the God's was teaching in the streets of ny most puerto Ricans was listening to freestyle dance music not hip hop shit like stevie B and the cover girls n shit ditto for Italians
They think they are better cause they got more white Spanish blood it's a colonized mind state that the white Spanish created a caste system on the island
4:23 - i agree. KRS -One seems to be a dreamer and a self-appointed 'teacher' who made up a lots of nonsense like 'the 5 elements of hiphop'. I hope he stops lying
and dude started with "I'm not going to speak for KRS" and then proceeded to speak for KRS... he doesn't know why he said it... knock it off. He was wrong regardless...
He Correct but I Love my Family on both sides and Hip Hop is a Black Culture I grew up around Blacks and Spanish people that LOVED each other and Hip-hop music.I come from the Original Man
Brilliant idea Lord Jamar…to have this “audience participation”, sort of “call in” format/platform. The only one if it’s kind as far I can see. Genius. Now…watch the copy cats pop up…Lord Jamar did it first tho…respect Lord Jamar.
This all started when Starr when at "his guy" Fat Joe for using the N word. It would be right for Starr to speak on it if it wasn't for the fact that Starr who is biracial, uses the N word all the time on his RUclips Starr report show. Then Starr called Puerto Ricans guests, and that is what triggered Fat Joe to say the 50/50 thing, which was inaccurate. Puerto Ricans are students, not guests, at least not now. Starr is an adnitted code switcher even though, I myself watch him. He even suggested that Fat Joe was racist, even though he was put on by Diamond D. No way, that's B.S. By the way, not the biggest Fat Joe defender at all. I believe Starr ignited and instigated this to get the algorithms going for his show and have listeners send in donations. Smart hustle. This infighting though it not good for Hip Hop. Starr does what he does..Instigate shit. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong. And Tariq Nasheed often calls Starr on his show and Starr was helping him out promoting his new Docu, Microphone Check. Not mad at that. It is what it is. Also, to say Puerto Ricans didn't support the Beatnuts, Cypress Hill etc. I don't know. As a Puerto Rican, I supported all those artists. I got tapes and CDs of Cypress Hill, Beatnuts, Joel Ortiz's first album, Tony Touch etc. . One of the Biggest rap acts to crossover back in the day in the real early 90s, who were Afro latino/Caribbean American were Mellow Man Ace, 2 In A Room, and Two Without Hats, and Prince Markie D from the Fat Boys. As well as Cypress Hill and Fat Joe and Frankie Cutless with Ray Boogie. So there plenty of Puerto Ricans buying their music back in the day.
Puerto Rican are black, 😅 Bongos congos are drums we use and the are from Africa, all those pics we see from back then yall think everyone dark skin was black but the truth is all Puerto Rican ain’t even light skin. Look at Alpo! Yall thought he was black!!!
Ya'll will do or say anything to stay latched unto us, But I never thought that y'all would be so desperate to try and assume our identity. Everybody knows that Black is specific ethnic and it doesn't have anything to do with Africans, afro Caribbeans or latinos😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
To say Puerto Ricans started it is riddiculous. But as a dude from West Philly, I ain't gonna exclude em neither. Because they' definitely was breakdancin wit' us. Cause I remember back in the day when Steady B used to breakdance with Chico and them in Hip Hop creation. The bull Disco Dave and all them. And this was just one area in Philly. So, I can imagine, there was Rican niggas djin' and settin shit up in the Bronx. That's why I don't exclude Puerto Ricans.
Funny!!!! They "NEVER" talk about Disco Maro??? I like KRS but he had been proven to Lie about somethings. Point: when Trix pointed put several things several years ago.
I hate the way people forget that there are four base elements to hip hop the dj the b boy the mc and the street artist so let’s remember when we talk about hip hop it’s not just rap and btw Latinos created breaking because it originated from salsa dancing
Black people built the country hip hop was a small thing!
Straight factual
Facts💯💯💯
Lol y'all helped but calm down.
Black people did not build the country alone . Mexicans built it and Indians built it as well as blacks. Black people just like to make blanket statements when they speak on there history.
@@1hundedfold Wordd!!
Sis spoke facts! She also made a good point by saying that better than talk, play FBA music before HipHop and Puerto Rican music prior to HipHop and let that speak for itself!
Facts
I couldn't hear anything she said past half PR half FBA, Afro-Latina.
She said she was black and black.
People need to learn the difference between race and culture.
yeah, she was definitely on point
@@LoveWinsItAll I understood her perfectly; what was wrong with what she said?
Hell yeah she did... I can listen to her break that $hit down all day... ✊🏿
If the Latinos really was 50/50 with creating Hip Hop , We could name just as many Latinos as We can Black Hip Hop artists! But We can't!
Name 20 black Rock n Roll artists or bands. You can't. "Black people started Rock n Roll, and the white man stole it"😂
gatekeeperssssssssssssss
You find in Mexico and Latin country or atlease music that sound similar there's known
@@chappymoore2612 Are you saying that Latino music is one of the roots of Hip Hop sounds? If so, Stop the 🧢
Facts!!! 👌
So Black Americans do ALL THE WORK, and Herc gets the ALL the credit is crazy.
Cool Herc came on a boat at 13 to America he ain't make shit but DJ a party coz playing as a black American
He came up with the name. But yes hip hop was already invented and going strong. Cool Herc, Afrikan B, haven't done enough to say they're second wave like the Puerto Ricans. Disco King Mario was the first wave aka the creators. Both Afrikan B, and Cool Herc studied under Mario.
@@AbeM-jm8yo that's a fact, but Herc didn't make up the name. It came from James Brown records.
Thats what i always respected about the 5% nation you gotta show & prove. Black Americans started hiphop. We have the recipients.
And the Z owns the record labels. And they control the narrative. Rap is dead.
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If PR were the creators of Hip Hop we would have never been accepted.
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACTS 🫨
Exactly
facts, say that all the time..
Yes So true 💯 percent !!! Right 👍
And Mexicans, Chicanos..ect. ect..
Thank God FBA people are checking those who are lying about the creation of the culture. If we don't, then they will move on to other music like rock, jazz, funk, ect.😊
And Hambone Too, Facts & Peace.
Already happened maybe the artist aren’t white but the owners of all the companies are white 😢
Nah homes, it ain't about krs 1 having his understanding and lord jamar having his understanding, it's about the truth. The truth is only one way, it's no different interpretations. HipHop culture is Black American culture and that's just what it is.
Faccs!
Hip hop comes from the st, Yu have blk , Peurto Ricans and whites n the streets,, so figure that 1 out, this is a goofy thing to argue about SMH
@@kevinhoyle8367ITS BLACK AMERICANS GENRE NO DAMN STREETS, get something going in you culture. You people have no imagination, skills or talent so that’s why you want to latch on to the beautiful black Americans culture. (How pathetic)
@@kevinhoyle8367when Hip-hop hit the block in the 1970s nyc had neighborhoods djs,MC and graffiti writers that was Black,Puerto Ricans and etc
Everyone tried to rhyme on the microphone 🎤
The first record Hip-hop record was Rappers Delight
@@139fultonhere comes the judge was the first recorded rap. Try again
The problem with KRS is the reason why you can't get a top secret security clearance with dual citizenship.
You funny
KRS is really tarana Burke
😂😂😂
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Thank you Jamar, finally a strong proud Black American. We Black Americans lived this culture. Our ancestors went through hell to create this culture and this culture brought us through hellish times. Thumbs down to coward bent back KRS and LL Cool J
Kill that noise the elders hated and hate your so called culture.
Hey Puerto Ricans, Caribbean and Africans Can you show me and FBA your version of Michael Jackson, Marvin Gaye, Prince, James Brown, Prince, Whitney Houston, Patti labell, Aretha Franklin, Earth wind and fire, The Temptations, The Delfonics Since we FBA don't have a Culture and we Copied From y'all Culture, I'll wait!!!
FACTS/FIYAH!
the nail on the head into the coffin!
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CHURCH
They don’t exist no swag havin asses 😂😂😂
Yes...........say it!
Facts we created everything that is damn near under the sun today😂FBA
Dude it's nothing to discuss, Hip hop is a FBA thing! Point blank period!!!!
Yet the white man owns it, controls it and benefits the most from it so he thanks you guys for the gift that keeps on giving.
No it’s not it belongs to the white man who owns and controls it.
Nobody is trying to exclude No One.Hip-Hop as a Collective is a Nation and a Global Community now.But The Truth is The Truth.And that is The Indigenous Indian aka reclassified Negro.The so called Black,Melenated,Afro American aka African American aka The Nagas aka The Niggas.Birthed and Fashioned Hip-Hop Culture and Music.That's just a Natural Fact of life on The Soil of The America's.😎👍🏾
Thanks for being real.you said a lot without writing a movie.
Talk that talk my niiji
Show me something that’s not connected to Black Americans specifically that’s considered “hip hop”
FACTS/FIYAH!
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@15:57, PR people took salsa and tried to make it seem as if they started salsa. The young Puerto Ricans need to watch Celia Cruz’s documentary to get a deeper understanding and gain true knowledge, when it comes to salsa
Cubans did. The Puerto Ricans in NY popularized and refined it. Puerto Ricans started bachata. Dominicans popularized and refined it. I swear y'all just repeat shit.
Salsa itself is a mix of different Cuban genres but the Mastermind of Salsa, the one who fused the Cuban genres together, created the sound and came up with the name Salsa was a Dominican, Johnny Pacheco. Pacheco was the one who gave Puerto Ricans their shot to shine through his record label, Fania Records. The thing about Salsa though is when Colombians Venezuelans Argentinians and others started making Salsa we embraced them. Some of my favorite Salsa musicians are Colombian. Bachata in itself also has Cuban origin because it is derrived from Cuban Bolero but it was played with a guitar in Dominican Countrysides. Bachata is 100% Dominican.
Salsa is a mix of Cuban genres but the Mastermind the one who mixed those genres together and named the genre Salsa was a Dominican, Johnny Pacheco. Pacheco was also the one who gave Puerto Ricans their opportunity to shine through his record label, Fania Records. Some of the Best Salsa Musicians are Puerto Ricans. If it wasn't for Hispanic unity Salsa would've never blew up. We never shunned Colombians Venezuelans Argentinians etc.. when they started making Salsa music even though they weren't involved in it's creation. Hispanics in general tend to stick together.
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng really? That's news to me. You may want to quantify that. My wife is born and raised in South Florida. Grew up with all divisions of Latinos. She paints a VERY different picture. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've witnessed enough between my own friends of Latino decent that it's not as sweet as people think.
Dominican invented Bachata
KRS 1 dropped the ball with the Africa Bambatta tee boy debacle... it what he said....
And instead of issuing a sincere apology he actually doubled down on what he said. GayRS-1
idc about nothing he said regarding that. that don't effect me in any way.
I AGREE with Jamar when he says EM is NOT resident in the house of hiphop. He's not.
Who cares but how does it feel for a guest to step in the house and takeover.
I agree
@droski3961 He took over cause you said so 🤣 you’re a nobody
@droski3961 the goofiness continues obviously, with you.
@@maxwelljenkins2904 everybody has a opinion. Jamar is a butthurt rapper
He doesn't hold the weight he used to In the self-destruction days. He prominence in the hip hop Universe had diminished
Star from the Star report even checked KRS Friday night. KRS has to keep the lie going because the lie keeps him getting booked.
Then he needs to be canceled out of beautiful black Americans culture ASAP
@conconjean3921 I completely agree and we FBA really should start a campaign to cancel and forsake him because he's been on some bull$hit for a minute now. HE'S NOT FOR US!!!!
You a real 1 Lord
ITS LONG TIME BLACK AMERICANS RAISE THE BLACK AMERICAN HERITAGE FLAG🎉🎉 Like everyone else raise theirs..
Facts Rza Wu Tang said same thing
KRS 1's Father is not FBA, hes like from the Barbados or something like that. So now we know why he's saying that B.S.
Bingo
Yep
Yea he butt hurt...
Facts babe
Who was the foreign person who influenced Gil Scot Heron? Who influenced Cassius Clay on his 1963 album “I am the Greatest”?
Gil Scott Heron father was an immigrant from Jamaica….
@@BKthoroughbred he was raised by his Grandmother on his mothers side. Y’all do this same madness with Malcolm X
@@kingjoeblack5 Yup, we do. Include Louis Farrakhan, Stokely Carmichael, Shirley Chisholm, and Marcus Garvey to name just a few…..
How the you gonna discount where his Father is from?!? Like his DNA ain’t part of the equation?!?
@@BKthoroughbred so he learned Jazz poetry from his football playing deadbeat dna? You tethers are delusional. Please explain that using science.
@@kingjoeblack5😂😂😂😂😂💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥! Tether logic is crazy as both of them was raised in FBA culture.
KrS probably had a relationship with Bam
GayRS-1
@@damonclark5742 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm from Atlanta Georgia and I lived in the South Bronx on Costa and Minda Street Hunts point Area and the #6 Train took me home and Puerto Ricans and Black's FBA didn't even get along like that, I'm not saying that we were separated I'm saying that we didn't even get along like that in the Bronx
We didn't get along all over the whole wide NYC. We used to have big time street fights with them. They couldn't stand us and we reciprocated it.
Back in the day Z100 radio was born and Hispanics in New York went over there with their urban music. Z100 was White and Hispanic mainly. New York Radio Stations were 99% segregated and they still pretty much are unlike the rest of America.
Lord Jamar, you’ve always been one of the staples and hip-hop you don’t have to or try to explain anything when these people log off of the computer or the curtain closes on their performances. They know the foundation of the music is based on.
The original roots of Hiphop is Foundational Black Americans.. However, like all religions, other people can come and graft themselves into that religion/culture.. change the God figure of the original and make it their own. The tragedy is that the graft sucks the life from the original religion/culture and feeds from the original root.. growing into something different.. usurping the original life of that culture.😊 Eventually, the grafted becomes the Jew that say they are with their mouths, but really isn't the original.. they just want the title to capitalize from it. So, if we are not careful, we will once again be buried builders while others capitalize from all of our efforts😮.
The original roots of hip hop was the dance and that originated from salsa dancing go and check
@enriqueontiveros265 You think Salsa is the origin of Hiphop? I'm with it. So, Salsa started in Cuba and then combined with Jazz in Ametica.. another Foundational Black culture. Anyway.. from there, a Cuban came to the Hood and began doing that dance on the dance floor where Black people were doing the many other dances they started.. watched the Cuban guys and began doing that dance before the DJ opened his mouth.. before the DJ allowed the DJ to hype the party? Doesn't make good sense, does it? Help me understand how HIPHOP started with Salsa dance.
@@aimmortalslegacy2189 not hip hop but break dancing specifically the youngsters were shunned from the salsa clubs for spinning and dancing on the floor so they took it outside to the block parties in New York and that was part of the beginning
@enriqueontiveros265 You said the Origin of Hiphop started with Salsa. So you are saying Break Dancing started first with Cuban youngsters adding on to Salsa while dancing at adult Salsa clubs.. the adults shunned them and they brought it to the block where it was introduced to Afro Latina.. Afro American and Afro others their age... THEN the DJ came in.. THEN the MC came in?
@@aimmortalslegacy2189 dude stop playing you know I’m talking about the Puerto Ricans in the Bronx New York
Wow Dr Phil valentine said this was going to happen years ago you can't make this up
Raggeaton. Spanish rap comes from Jamaican reggae that was made into party music in Panama. Later artists started to "rap". Spanish rap really comes from the Carribbean but Black Americans think that Spanish rap is Hispanics trying to copy Black Americans. That's false
JoseMarrinez-bh1ng you are wrong. Black Americans are fully aware that reggaeton started with a Black Panamanian, El General. You aren’t standing on facts. Second, Latin rap is still influenced by American hip hop. You’re wrong on both parts
JoseMartinez-bh1ng reggaeton uses the Dem Bow Riddim from Shabba Ranks. Jamaican to be exact. Stop trying to dilute it by saying Caribbean
Also, I want to state for us to just come together and not be so divisive! If these are just think about it, no matter where their parents are or whatever their culture that they feel like that they have to illuminate if they were in hip-hop, they know they rode the wave on every foundational black Americans swag, style, lingo, and now all of a sudden they want to try to separate themselves from FBA’s! And it’s so funny most of these artists who are trying to bring their culture to the forefront, even though they’re black just like we are rarely used any of these elements of their culture, whether it was Jamaican or Puerto Rican probably less than one percent, maybe a couple songs they might’ve use their accent, but they know that they was riding on what we built and the foundation of the culture so it’s OK to be proud to have another type of ethnicity or where you were your parents might’ve originated but to now try to make it like your music or career, was built on something other than foundation of black Americans music
Black Americans we must hold the line, with our culture. Our culture is everything, and we MUST protect it..
Bob Johnson was warned!!! BET Black men see now what they gotta do they let toooooo many play house in their home!! Kick em out FBA!!!
Both my great Grandparents were FBA aka real niccas
Man it’s a real war. This you tube app has made all my comments invisible like a slave owner trying to cut off communication between black folks…what tf is REALLY goin on ?! 😅
Definitely, only FBA could create music to fit the actual living circumstances... The lyrics explained it all... Plain and simple 💙✌🏿 and hair grease
KRS-1 claim to fame is two things. One is the Bridge beef with Shan and Marley and the second is when he got on the wrong side of the Beef industry with his song "Beef" and he backed up off criticizing the Beef lobby real fast.
Don’t comment on KRS1 if u think 1 song and an issue with the befff industry is his only claim to fame ..sit down somewhere
@@newelldavis1858 I get it. I was just pointing out the two main things. I am aware that he is a Hip Hop Legend and that is what makes this Traitorous act so disappointing. Lord Jamar is RIGHT. Your integrity must come before Money. KRS was deceptive in his language and is helping to try to rob FBA of our legacy so F*ck KRS-1 until he comes out and does a 180.
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We do have a foundation Black American Heritage flag🎉
Hip hop comes from funk music, which both originated in America, reggae comes from the blues, but americans dont claim reggae bcuz it originated in Jamaica. Other groups had they're slight influence through the years, but to say they created it is a huge lie!! Blk Americas r known for cookouts" in which loud music is playing & people r dancing and having fun, so to say koolherc invinted hip hop bcuz he dj block partys is b.s, he had to come to America to be who he was! 😂blk Americans been talking and telling storys over beats since the 1920s /1940s blk Americas r the blueprint those r just historical facts
KRS Needs that Corporate Check.
The Coasters made an album before hip-hop was created. Every song they were rhyming on it. You can take those vocals and match them over hip-hop beats and you'll hear origins
Please 😅😂😂😂😂 face facts stop the 🧢🧢🧢🧢🎓
The Black Spades and Ghetto Brothers helped bring peace to the streets so that Hip Hop could be.
Bull$hit
@@FillyouupSplashmuch love to you and yours❣️
Lol 😂😂😂😂 again contribution is not creating!! Black spades black reference ghetto black reference like come on
I also noticed this thing with KRS-One that he thinks that because he speaks slow and very articulate that his word is the end all be all
True
Go listen to Big daddy Kanes drink champ interview,,and GrandMaster caz vlad interview,,they clearly tell u that blacks created hip hop...In fact,,they said that there was many black American DJs before kool hert,,but kool hert gets credit for creating hip hop because he was the first to DJ in the public parks,,causing him to be well known to media platforms.....Also just for the record,,kool hert copied black American old school funk and soul records to make his beats,,and he was in fact just a DJ not a rapper...Also,,Grandmaster caz clearly said that Puerto Ricans joined into hip hop later by dancing to the beats,,and only had 1 or 2 Puerto rican rappers compared to hundreds of black American rappers...In other words,,black Americans started Hip hop,,and Puerto Ricans liked what they saw and decided to join in.....Also just for the record,,black Americans were rapping for fun over soul and funk beat instrumentals inside our homes in the 50s 60s and 70s,,way before we started making studio rap songs...In fact,,there are many black R & B and funk soul groups from the 50s 60s and 70s that had rap skits on there song,,in which is more evidence that black Americans created hip hop....DUH 😳
Which specific parts of Puerto Rican culture can Black Americans claim based on "Being in New York"? 🤔🤷🏿♂️🤨
Me no black poppi
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oh you know the lietinos aint going for that.... "you get nothing poppi"
KOOL HERC 💪🏽Started The Party. He brought out The Turn Tables. He played Music that he liked and it happened to be Black American Disco Music and Black American Uptempo Soul Music. Young Black Americans were the first people to get on the Mic, Chantin, Talkin Fly, Gettin the Party Hyped Up and Showing Major Love to the DJ. The majority of people at the parties were Black Americans due to the Music Selection. There were definitely Latinos present Who Love Soul and Disco🕺🏽Music but the MAJORITY of the Latino community were more into Salsa, Bachata etc at the time and still are. Also The MAJORITY of the Jamaican/Carribean community were more into Reggae, Dancehall Etc. at the time and still are. There is an argument of Who Was Present? Really almost everyone who lived in the neighborhoods witnessed it. Also.. What Culture influenced Hiphop the most? HIPHOP’s biggest influence is Black American Music. It’s not a coincidence that the Majority of Rappers are Black Americans.
KRS AIN’T FROM THE BRONX . LETS START THERE. HE’S FROM FLATBUSH BROOKLYN. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST SHAM IN HIP HOP . HE MET DJ SCOTT LA ROCK AT THE BRONX SHELTER.
This the best debunking I've heard on a platform on this subject yet!!!
Ever since that Katt Williams interview it’s been the year of the TRUTH, and I’m here for it!!!🎯👏🏽💪🏽
Rap and Hip Hop came from the south, From the Black Church and R&B Music, We FBA will Create a new Style of Music coming Soon and let's see How Follows Who But we are going to gatekeep our culture for years and years to come
Hip hop started in the Bronx... period
Look how the whole world copied drill rap got people in other countries feeling like chief keef got Jamaicans rapping about crocodile teeth... Drill rap started all that ... Everybody copy FBA
All they got to do is give us valid receipts (video evidence) and we’ll shut up. Until then…
Go to the Hiphop museum
@bangswift For what?? Ehy can't Puerto Ricans just tell us what y'all created in Hip Hop🤔
@@bangswift Why if you can tell me right now? I'm talking late 60's too. Don't come to me about the 80's .
Where is part one?
Hate to say this but Kris and Joe are always embellishing things for political reasons. That may be part of the reason why they continue to evolve and adapt in hip-hop.
We created it, now what? What is the ultimate goal of these discussions?
So eloquently said, and I agree, some of my response was based on a missed opportunity for Utopia! The only thing we could do at this point is to be respectful and mindful, the unity that we had started as long passed!
Much luv Big bro LJ..Salaams Amir my belv brother from north! Facts !
Joel is one of the most lyrical geniuses of our time.. I whole heartedly was always looking for his music.. dope🙏💯
Most forms of music period came out the minds of people of African decent period including concept of salsa and salsa dancing.
This is how culture gets stolen when you try to ascrib it to a catch all (africa). Africa had nothing to do with the creation of our culture here in america = the end.
No black Americans started not foreigners
My sister made some beautiful point... They do it in Puerto Rico.. push all black Hispanic to the back...
Nothing absolutely Nothing would lead u to believe anyone but black Americans invented hip hop. Everything was previously laid in place by black people that led to the birth of hip hop. The dances, the slick talking and rhyming. Soul music. The other genres that we created. All fingers point to FBA. Black folks from all over the country rap and break and DJ. Why didn't they do that on the island of Puerto rico while they folks here were doing it?
Hip Hop came from the Soul and RnB music of the 60s & 70s, the music that the Black children of the Bronx grew up listening to, now if you can play some Spanish music that influenced it, I’m all ears, but the problem is, you can’t! Because the youth didn’t grow up listening to that to create Hip Hop! If you wanna keep it all the way real, Black folk created they music to, they just used European instruments to do it, or whatever else they could find to make a sound!
Yeah, instruments they stole from us black people
He Correct Hip Hop is a Black Culture but I Love my Family on both sides and I grew up around Blacks and Spanish people that was Cool and Understand the Struggle in the neighborhood. I come from the Original Lord Jamar Peace G Respect excellent content
The beauty of these conversations is that it fosters healthy debate and it gets us talking about HIP HOP and that’s a good thing I just wish it was focused more on how can we as a collective work to preserve it in its purest form! Love brand Nubian I’m still a lord Jamar fan although I disagree and that’s ok!
Bruh, now that we are questioning who started hip hop...that's a sign cats are in danger of losing it.
"Zulus on you black"
Out of the 4 elements of hip hop i only see 2 elements where Puerto Ricans might have contributed and thats Breakin and Graffiti.
DJ'ing and MC'ing is all black straight up. Those are the two earliest, most important founding elements.
The elements is white induced attributes and learn truth of 🎤
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Loving the conversation SHAME ON YOU KTS ONE AND YOU SUPPOSED YO BE THE TEACHER AND GOT CAUGHT LYING FOR A CHECK!!!!
The TRUTH is the TRUTH, no need for any kind of meetings. People need to just tell the TRUTH
Back in the 80s when hip hop was popping off and the God's was teaching in the streets of ny most puerto Ricans was listening to freestyle dance music not hip hop shit like stevie B and the cover girls n shit ditto for Italians
Even hot 97 was a dance station until 93
Freestyle didnt exist in 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984.
@jcbirdman74 I didn't say it did
@@JayReaction530 So what you think we were listening to if Freestyle didnt exist??? In 82, 83, 84, 85??
I'm an FBA Brother,and it is a shame,that a lot of Latinos...do not support the God 7☀️🌟🌙 Estee Nack 🎤
I believe that the Truth has no choice but to be known at this time and it will be so by any means! Peace, Love and Light!
I come from the same era as Lord Jamal. You have to Show & Prove.
Lord Jamar's universal flag is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lations have always had Anti Black Hate
Big facts but yet they stay eating off black culture.
They think they are better cause they got more white Spanish blood it's a colonized mind state that the white Spanish created a caste system on the island
4:23 - i agree. KRS -One seems to be a dreamer and a self-appointed 'teacher' who made up a lots of nonsense like 'the 5 elements of hiphop'. I hope he stops lying
👏👏👏👏👏👏 to that Sister Speaking 🙏✨️
SHOUT OUT to Lord Jamar✊🏾
Lord Jamar is my fellow 🇬🇾 🇺🇸....
Peace,chuck of public enemy said that sometime NY people can be in they NY box peace.
and dude started with "I'm not going to speak for KRS" and then proceeded to speak for KRS... he doesn't know why he said it... knock it off. He was wrong regardless...
I'm so tired of hip hop lies Puerto Ricans and Jamaican had nothing do with creation of hip hop.
They did as well as every other race in the Bronx when hip hop started.....the streets of the Bronx created hip hop
Mr jamar I was there I was born in Harlem 1968 it's my era. My era. Hello. Cubans Dominican Puerto Rican & only NYC Blacks folk created hip hop.
Who is geraldo ortiz?
Krs-one always actin positive until he wants steak with his beans and rice😂
He Correct but I Love my Family on both sides and Hip Hop is a Black Culture I grew up around Blacks and Spanish people that LOVED each other and Hip-hop music.I come from the Original Man
If the latino created hip hop names many Puerto Ricans that y'all influence the blacks.
The dunning Krueger effect
Brilliant idea Lord Jamar…to have this “audience participation”, sort of “call in” format/platform. The only one if it’s kind as far I can see. Genius. Now…watch the copy cats pop up…Lord Jamar did it first tho…respect Lord Jamar.
This all started when Starr when at "his guy" Fat Joe for using the N word. It would be right for Starr to speak on it if it wasn't for the fact that Starr who is biracial, uses the N word all the time on his RUclips Starr report show. Then Starr called Puerto Ricans guests, and that is what triggered Fat Joe to say the 50/50 thing, which was inaccurate. Puerto Ricans are students, not guests, at least not now. Starr is an adnitted code switcher even though, I myself watch him. He even suggested that Fat Joe was racist, even though he was put on by Diamond D. No way, that's B.S. By the way, not the biggest Fat Joe defender at all.
I believe Starr ignited and instigated this to get the algorithms going for his show and have listeners send in donations. Smart hustle. This infighting though it not good for Hip Hop. Starr does what he does..Instigate shit. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong. And Tariq Nasheed often calls Starr on his show and Starr was helping him out promoting his new Docu, Microphone Check. Not mad at that. It is what it is.
Also, to say Puerto Ricans didn't support the Beatnuts, Cypress Hill etc. I don't know. As a Puerto Rican, I supported all those artists. I got tapes and CDs of Cypress Hill, Beatnuts, Joel Ortiz's first album, Tony Touch etc. .
One of the Biggest rap acts to crossover back in the day in the real early 90s, who were Afro latino/Caribbean American were Mellow Man Ace, 2 In A Room, and Two Without Hats, and Prince Markie D from the Fat Boys. As well as Cypress Hill and Fat Joe and Frankie Cutless with Ray Boogie. So there plenty of Puerto Ricans buying their music back in the day.
Joel Ortiz aint better than Big pun foh
People are mad that's it's not there culture.
We make it they take it. You know the drill.
Puerto Rican are black, 😅
Bongos congos are drums we use and the are from Africa, all those pics we see from back then yall think everyone dark skin was black but the truth is all Puerto Rican ain’t even light skin. Look at Alpo! Yall thought he was black!!!
Check out Agallah- Black Puerto Rican Culture. Just dropped
Sorry alpo is a demon he ain't like us
Me no black poppi
Alpo cosplayed as a black american while doing dirt. Fck him ! We are the originators with no help✊🏿
Ya'll will do or say anything to stay latched unto us, But I never thought that y'all would be so desperate to try and assume our identity. Everybody knows that Black is specific ethnic and it doesn't have anything to do with Africans, afro Caribbeans or latinos😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
To say Puerto Ricans started it is riddiculous. But as a dude from West Philly, I ain't gonna exclude em neither. Because they' definitely was breakdancin wit' us. Cause I remember back in the day when Steady B used to breakdance with Chico and them in Hip Hop creation. The bull Disco Dave and all them. And this was just one area in Philly. So, I can imagine, there was Rican niggas djin' and settin shit up in the Bronx. That's why I don't exclude Puerto Ricans.
Krs 1 is not from The Bronx. He was born & raised in Brooklyn
Funny!!!! They "NEVER" talk about Disco Maro??? I like KRS but he had been proven to Lie about somethings. Point: when Trix pointed put several things several years ago.
Krs is the blast master you know 😂😂😂
💣 *"Nuff Respect"*
To Lord JAMAR,
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Who Is of,
*Afro-GUYANESE HERITAGE*. ❗️🤔💭⏱️
Many talk the tawk but dont follow the walk........ in speaking in general.
Sorry, I'm from London. What does FBA stand for?
Foundational Black American. The descendants of Chattel slavery in the USA.
Yeah he made a good point
I hate the way people forget that there are four base elements to hip hop the dj the b boy the mc and the street artist so let’s remember when we talk about hip hop it’s not just rap and btw Latinos created breaking because it originated from salsa dancing