FOLK PUNK ICEBERG - From Violent Femmes to Pat The Bunny
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This is no way a definitive list but just what I am familiar with in regards to folk punk music. A genre growing in popularity and one I have loved for years! #folkpunk #patthebunny #daysndaze
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Pat didn't really quit abruptly. He got sober and no longer wanted to sing songs that reminded him of the worst point in his life.
Ohhhh, that makes sense. I wasn't there.so I don't know, but I heard from a lot of places, he quit abruptly. But what you said makes more sense imo
@@thepunkrockreview I'm sure there's other reasons too.he does a really good interview on fistful of vinyl and explains some stuff it's from a few years ago I think
my understanding which is weak at best, is that pat no longer held his most staunch views and didn't want to be a hypocrite. He got sober as well and didn't want to perpetuate his complete anarchist views while reliving his lowest depths.
Accordingly like most of us he still holds some radical points of views but doesn't feel right laying his soul upon us and influencing others.
The older I get the more I love but the less in touch I am to adolescent essence, it would be awful to be stuck.
Apologies again I don't aspire to explain or understand just convey my own journey.
I worked for the Pogues, they were craic and deserve more recognition for what they done politically (in UK & Ireland Shane's lyrics led to the freeing of the guildford four among many others thing ye wouldn't understsand)
He just didn’t wanna have to look for his toothbrush on the car’s floorboard every morning. Give him a break..pat is still pat. The world has not seen the last him.
I'm pretty sure it was the scene that pushed pat to stop making music, with that said, I'd also like to think the he completed what he set out to do. You can watch the transitions he's made in his life, play out in his discography.
Love all these bands so much especially Johnny hobo(well anything pat did)and mischief brew(rip eric)
100% agree, thank you for checking out the video!
Folk-punk has always been one of my favorite generes since by chance stumbling into a Days N Daze live show in Austin TX.
I had actually heard the genere through Violent Femmes and Wingnut Dishwashers Union but just thought of it as "acoustic punk."
Yeah I liked Flogging Molly and stuff like that, I knew Days-N-Daze bc I'm in Houston so I just thought of it as acoustic crust... I like the name Folk Punk better tho... lol
Pigeon Pit might be one of my favorite bands in general. I couldn't get into them at first, but one day I sat down to listen to Feather River Canyon Blues and it sucked me in. I guess I just needed to approach them at the right time.
There are a ton of legitimate good folk punk bands out there!
Pretty good vid. Real quick fact check though, Erik Peterson was not part of Johnny hobo and the freight trains. Also you definitely should've covered pat and mischief brew a little more. I think both of those bands are more of a staple than days n daze. Thats my opinion at least. Also shouldve touched on rail yard ghosts, the taxpayers, harley poe, and amigo the devil. Pretty decent rundown though generally. Thanks!
Thanks, man, and yeah, that's why I mentioned it not being extensive. There are too many bands to mention and remember, lol. May have to have a part 2 video soon... As far as the Erik Peterson bit, I just couldn't remember, but yeah, that Johnny Hobo was Pat's thing. Days-N-Daze are more of the "staple band" than Pat or MB. They have about as many listeners and streams as Pat and MB do combined on Spotify and are still active. But I mean, I don't think it's by a ton. I'd definitely say they're the most accessible and a little more popular at this point in time. But as far as quality and subjective opinion? I like em about the same, they're very different. I'd say Pat and his projects at this point in time are the more influential. Take that however you want, I guess, just my opinion, lol. You seem to have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject. If you want to jump on and play my role in a part 2, I'm always down to learn about more bands and such! But thanks for watching and for your input. It is appreciated 👊
Erik came first,
I was big into leftover crack circa 2006, the forum was a great place to be, it actually changed my life,
It was there I first heard about Erik, who came from the same/adjacent scene as the Crackrocksteady bands.
I fell out of the loop for a few years, you can only imagine my shock and joy when I first heard Pats music and the Erik and LOC influence was so obvious.
Then a little later I heard DnD and it sounded just like an acoustic choking victim to me!
I was hooked on folkpunk ever since. I think it's fair to say DnD and the biggest name in the genre but mischief brew basically invented the genre as we see it now and pat inspired hundreds of acts (including me) to start writing.
Ps monthly listeners on spotify are irrelevant when it comes to pat's work, because they were absent from it until very recently.
just wanted to add Ramshackle Glory and Ghost Mice to this.
Days N Daze were my in to folk punk, but years later now, i would say Pat and Eric are pillars of folk punk imo too
Violent Femmes Hell Yeah
Never been into them tbh, but I know a cpl of their songs
@@thepunkrockreview Me Too 😅
love both your channels, as a folk-punk/ska musician this is cool.
Ayyye! Thank you so much!
Been a fan of folk-punk for the past 10 years, I'm familiar with a lot of the lower iceberg stuff, but being in my mid 20s now I wasn't really familiar with a lot of the earlier stuff. Excited to experience new artists!
Also some additions to your Iceberg for anyone interested
Top Iceberg (orbits the genre in my mind)
Early modest mouse
Mountain goats
Blind Melon
Jeff Rosenstock
The Front Bottoms
Amigo the Devil
The Devil Makes Three
Kimya Dawson
Mid Iceberg
The Taxpayers
AJJ
Defiance, Ohio
Nana Grizol
Ghost Mice (even though they're not someone I listen to due some allegations, they undoubtedly contributed a lot to folk punk music)
June Henry
We The Heathans/Doom Scroll
She/Her/Hers
Harley Poe
Sidney Gish
Ankle Grease
Sledding with Tigers
Just Nick
Holy Locusts
Jeffery Lewis
Stick and Poke
Lower Iceberg
Frog Legs
Little Foot
Bogsey and the Argonaughts
Bearknuckle Honey
This Is A Robbery
Michael Schneeweis
Cud Eastbound
Porch Cat
Jared Mees & The Grown Children
Troll 2
Tony & Gravel
Lol, Blind Melon and Modest Mouse have nothing to do with punk at all, maybe a LITTLE to do with folk. Those picks are stretching a bit far... I do enjoy MM tho
Hey guys, loving your video. First time I’ve visited your channel; I’m starting to explore folk punk, so this is perfect! Just wanted to mention that when a trans person changes their name, referring to their previous name is called “dead naming” - and it’s seen as inconsiderate, at best. Just an FYI. 😉
Yeah, I'm aware. Are you saying I am not supposed to say the person's "dead name" ever? Even when talking about events that happened or if doing some kind of historical documentation? If so, I find that a little ridiculous. If you have no intention of being rude or disrespectful, and someone still gets offended, then they can just be offended. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point, of course.
I choose to refrain from commenting on this matter... But lots of luv for you guys. Keep it up!
To reach their own, thanks for watching regardless! Got a topic you'd like to see covered?
56:48 I think it's the idea that a lot of punk rock has been co-opted and watered down as it relates to being more common in the mainstream zeitgeist, but folk punk isn't as easily marketable in that sense. but it does depend (punk with a camera, apes of the state, days n daze being on fat wreck chords etc.), plenty of anarcho punk isn't interested in that level of success, but there is a difference between commerce and playing the capitalist game obviously. it looks different to different experiences. from the warped tour to the backyard gig spectrum, there's following a hard leftist diy ethos and then there's apolitical pop friendly punk, at least that's what I was gauging from this section of the discussion.
late to the party but here to shout out gogol bordello as a potential and adding The Taxpayers, Mischief Brew and an offshoot of DnD Chad hates George
Absolutely wonderful bands!
I use to be real into this shit but pat is working in IT but check out Cranford nix for old folk punk
Cranford Nix a band? I'll check it out!
@@thepunkrockreview It's the singer and guitarist of the Michigan band The Malakas, they broke up, and he went solo acoustic, and it sounds like he sang to soothe his troubles. Definitely definitely check him out!
RIP Cranny
Hey, just found your channel through this video and I'll definitely be doing a deep dive.
You did a great job with this! I just wanted to drop a couple notes. The trans artist that was on Fat you mentioned was named Sam Sadowski, under the band name Closet Fiends. One EP was recorded before she passed away. Mike cited it as one of his favorite things Fat ever released.
Erik Peterson from Mischief Brew was not in Johnny Hobo with Pat. As far as I know, they never had a project together. Erik's band before Mischief Brew was called The Orphans.
A few notable bands that could have been on the iceberg would be Defiance Ohio, The Taxpayers, and AJJ. AJJ is a lot of people's introduction into the genre, probably just under Days N Daze. I would put the other two right around Mischief Brew.
If you are still in a folk punk place, you might want to try out Rent Strike, We the Heathens, and Doom Scroll.
Thank you! I rarely make a perfect video, but we try to do well. We the Heathens and Doom Scroll are great, not familiar with Rent Strike so I'll check them out soon! Thank you
@@thepunkrockreview you did fantastic! I've already watched your interview with April from Apes of the State and the Matt pless one. I'm really digging your stuff, very glad I stumbled upon the iceberg video. You and I are of a similar age and have a similar story. I was wondering you mentioned a series of DIY instruction videos. I've always wanted to learn how to silk screen. If you ever did that I'd love to see it. The best I ever figured out was cutting a design into freezer paper and then using an iron to make a one-and-done screen. I can get halfway decent results with that and do multiple colors but it is a giant pain and really tedious.
revival tour 2011 is my favourite live album.
With due respect, I think this is a fairly narrow definition of folk punk. There are significant gaps in this lineage, particularly the scenes that emerged around Olympia, WA (K Records) and Bloomington, IN (Plan It X Records). K Records founder Calvin Johnson is known for playing alongside bands like Fugazi as well as signing folk punks Kimya Dawson / Moldy Peaches, Old Time Relijun, Pine Hill Haints, and Mt Eerie. Chris Clavin of Plan It X pioneered a more traditional folk punk sound, signing notable bands Defiance Ohio, AJJ, Erin Tobey, and Matty Pop Chart (along with the aforementioned Against Me! and Pat the Bunny). I’d also include folk punk that pushes into indie, like The Front Bottoms, Neutral Milk Hotel, and Elliot Smith. Good convo tho…it would make a cool book.
Yeah im definitely not an expert, maybe I should have called it "An Intro Into Folk Punk" instead of Iceberg, but I'll definitely check out a bunch of the stuff you mentioned
spitshine! 2nd st rag stompers! profane sass! douglas fur! holy locust! there is a never ending list of awesome folk punk that idk if belongs to any scene but their own and is neglected in talks like this
We are friends now.
Is Tom Waits folk punk?
You know, kinda... may need to make another video about that, actually
fLOGGING MOLLY BETTER TRHAN THE POGUES??????? dude, im fuckin speechless, as a punk at 48 still gutter as ever, i consider one a keltic semi pop punk band that had a handful of real good songs one could help likeing, the other was sacred.
It's all about tastes my dude, you're free to prefer whoever you want. I never liked the Pogues tbh. 🤷🏻 I didn't realize there was a checklist of bands I had to like, my bad bro 👊😂
Shane MacGowan was a genius. May he Rest in Peace
have to keep in mind metalheads hated punks, from the bands, to thr listeners,, theyd jump us if they could catch us alone, like in the 80s and even early 90s, but by then it seemed like more threat from the neo country scene
I remember that, I just never had much trouble with it bc I had friends of all kinds in the 90s bc we were all so few that the "weirdos" had to all kind of hang out. The older metal heads tried to be tough, but they weren't.
I'm very surprised you like folk punk. I'd recommend Andrew Jackson jihad, MANTITS, asking for it (and other things Chris burrows did in Australia), 37 cents, screw you and the four chords. I dunno how many of those you may have come across.
Like judging a book by its cover on my end, just didn't expect you to get into folk punk. I'd say johnny hobo (pat the bunny) being my intro to the genre. Days n daze is surely a step in from johnny hobo in my opinion.
I remember when I found out that violent femmes self titled was like 84 and was kinda flabbergasted since that shit was on the radio when I was coming up in the 2000s.
I'd like to talk to you mate. If ya can find an avenue of contact, I'd be happy to talk to ya.
All my contact info is in the description, hit me up, bro!
Folk punk is just crust punk, but the bands are too poor and homeless to afford electric instruments.
You are not wrong, lol
Thats a less wordy and slightly less polite way than I've always described it.
A crust punk band too broke for amps and drums so one gets their dad's old acoustic out of the closest, they make a washtub bass, a washboard, and recruit the weirdest kid they can find playing trumpet in their highschool marching band.
Yep and that's one of the many reasons I like it
I don't really agree, they sometimes have the same aesthetic and lyrical topics, but the folk punk is more like pop punk in its structure and melody
Stop saying true things 😭😭🤣🤣
Jesse stewart is still my fav bad guy great music
RIP Jesse...