Springfield Prodigy Upgrade Update

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @BaddFrogg777
    @BaddFrogg777 Год назад

    Excellent and thorough review. We love this stuff. Now yours is unique and custom. Thank you for taking the time and making it fun. PEACE

  • @alangwin3891
    @alangwin3891 11 месяцев назад

    I can remember when titanium was called unobtainium because only factory sponsored racing equipment and military equipment would have titanium.😊

  • @stevenford4313
    @stevenford4313 Год назад +1

    Adjust the main spring on the sear side and center leaf for the disconnector to lighten the trigger pull.

  • @blkenuff
    @blkenuff 2 года назад +1

    The tool less guide rod for the TRP from Dawson precision works on the 5 inch.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      I’ve had it in my shopping cart since Friday but after you twisting my arm I decided to get it. 😉 Thanks for the nudge!

  • @williamwinn948
    @williamwinn948 Год назад +1

    i have a pile of stuff lol i think all gun owners can relate to that.

  • @twistinprops604
    @twistinprops604 2 года назад +2

    Hey nobody. Jus wanna say you're doing great with these prodigy videos.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, Twistin’! Did you notice I had some cratex polishing bits on the table? Good suggestion on those!

  • @scottydoo330
    @scottydoo330 2 года назад

    awesome im ordering the parts today.

  • @antonioromano8394
    @antonioromano8394 2 года назад +1

    I have in my Brownells cart many upgrades waiting for confirmation, I chose an Ed Brown kit for my baby. I have already taken the Geppert flat trigger and the Dawson tool-free guide rod. I hope the gun arrives before Christmas.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Sound like you cart might get more and more items in it before it arrives with Santa. Trigger I’ll probably do last. I don’t mode the stock one since I smoothed out the hole on the face

  • @matthewvolpe7515
    @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад +2

    FYI anyone who ordered an optic plate may be waiting a bit more. I called last week about my RMR plate and they had no ETA in sight. They’re at the mercy of Agency right now. So much for the October ship date.

    • @AvantiusMaximus
      @AvantiusMaximus 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for this, I've been waiting until they were in stock before ordering one.

    • @matthewvolpe7515
      @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад

      @@AvantiusMaximus I ordered mine the day after the Prodigy dropped to the public. Seems like they’re wanting to push the Dragonfly a bit, but that’s subjective.

    • @matthewvolpe7515
      @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад

      @@AvantiusMaximus I’ll post on this page once it comes in. Nobody and I have been bouncing info back and forth. He’s a very consistent source!

    • @AvantiusMaximus
      @AvantiusMaximus 2 года назад +1

      @@matthewvolpe7515 right on, much appreciated!

    • @matthewvolpe7515
      @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад

      @@AvantiusMaximus you bet!

  • @dk-bo5si
    @dk-bo5si 2 года назад +2

    10-8 has tool less 5 Inch guide rod and the reverse recoil cap although it was out of stock. I wish there was one for 4.25 but not yet. I have shot about several hundred to about thousand rounds. I didn't keep track but the trigger did seems to smooth out a bit. Not sure if it got lighter but definitely feels better.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +2

      If 10-8 had one in stock I would have bought. And I still might depending on Atlas’ timeline. The EGW sear and hammer are nice. Feels so smooth. Comparing stock to EGW is a very noticeable night and day difference. When you get the chance, really look at that upgrade. I think you’ll put me on your Xmas card list for it!

    • @dk-bo5si
      @dk-bo5si 2 года назад +1

      @@nobodytraining I been eye balling it too, for the egw ignition kit. One thing that worried me is that how much of the kit is drop in per say. I'm not a smith by any means so if needing to grind off on the sear I would be in trouble. But it looks like you didn't have to do any work to it. That's reassuring. Thanks for the video. I am loving your prodigy videos.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +2

      @@dk-bo5si IF you have to take some material off you can do it with sand paper and a flat surface (glass, granite, etc.) It will be just a bit and check the fit often. But I think you will be fine. I had to take a small file to the slide safety and take a little material off so it would function. If you have to, use a sharpie to mark the engagement surface, put it into the frame and work it up and down. You will see where it is hitting. Take a little off at a time. Rinse, wash, repeat till it clears. Don't over do it or you'll buy another safety.

  • @crw7450
    @crw7450 2 года назад +1

    Also, that EGW Evolved sear spring wouldn't work in my 5" Prodigy, or in other's guns. The left leaf is intentionally longer and was too long for my Prodigy. They work in my SA .45 Operator though.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      I noticed that as well when I went to put it in. So decided to run the stock spring. Thanks for watching, commenting, and the feedback!

  • @ct2368
    @ct2368 2 года назад +1

    I like the 2 piece guide rod. If you only tighten it finger tight, it comes apart every time without tool. I go through about 250 rounds at a time and I shoot every weekend. So far the guide rod hasn't come loose and has been fine with 750 rounds through it.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      My 5” guide rod likes to come undone so when I was using the 2 piece I had to crank it on. My 4.25 doesn’t have that problem for some reason. But then again my 5” seemed to have all kinds of problems. Good suggestion!

  • @ISPhotographic
    @ISPhotographic 2 года назад

    Thumb safety, not slide safety.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Ya I call that thinga-ma-bob a lot of names. It’s one of the joys of being an untrained unprofessional. And It gives you and I plenty of material to make fun of. Just roll with it. 😉 Thanks for watching ISP and I appreciate the knowledge

  • @jack-ui3ob
    @jack-ui3ob Год назад

    What you think about this kit?
    SKU:10211-17
    EGW IGNITION KIT W/ LIGHTENED HAMMER AND 17# MAIN SPRING.
    Will a 17” LBS work?
    Thank you

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад

      So full disclosure, Jack. When I bought my ignition kits they did not have the Prodigy option so I’m using the stock leaf springs. I did polish and deburr the edges to make them nice and they’ve worked great. Plus I didn’t have to tweak the spring. Also, the kits I’m using run the 19lb mainsprings. I have 10214 and 10216. The kit for the 17 has a bright hammer. Just mentioning in case you did not see that it isn’t blued. Nothing wrong with that. Just the color. The 17 should work just fine. Now depending on the gun, ammo, and whatever random stuff, if you start getting light primer strikes you may want to look at a couple of options. 1- change the firing spring to the Wolff Extra Power firing spring. Might be worth doing anyway but up to you. 2- you can change the mainspring to a 19lb so the hammer hits harder.
      Keep in mind that sometimes a gun needs to be tuned to what you want and how you want to run it. Like a mystery, sometimes it’s easy to solve and sometimes you have to really work at it. But I think it’s fun and cool to learn. Hope that helps!

    • @jack-ui3ob
      @jack-ui3ob Год назад

      @@nobodytraining good thing I asked you.. I didn’t realize the bright Hammer for the 17” lbs. I going with the 19 inch lbs and black hummer.. totally agree with you m, This is fun.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад

      Well I’m glad that I did! Almost didn’t. Buy the 19 kit but grab a 17 spring also. Do some experimenting with the recoil impulse and see which one feels better to you. I like how the 19 mainsprings and 10lb recoil spring feels in my 5”. Running 19 & 12.5 in my 4.25”. Plenty of people are running 12lb recoils in their 5”. You are getting down into the weeds. Might as well as count the grasshoppers 🤣

  • @thomasgullifer7465
    @thomasgullifer7465 2 года назад +2

    I have the 4.25 inch Prodigy myself, I put the exact same EGW parts in mine, I did stone the seer from EGW, gently, and I have to say mine is now named BUTTER, because thats how smooth it is. I am currently waiting on a pair of Staccato mags, and a new set of springs for the factory Duramags because the factory springs have already stopped holding the slide ope after last round, so hopefully the Dawson Precision springsI have will help that issue. Keep up the good work. Ill be checking in to see what else you have done.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching and the comment, Thomas! Quick question: do you have a jig for the sear or are you an old pro? If you have a jig, which one? Curious minds want to know.

  • @cosmiccharlie8294
    @cosmiccharlie8294 2 года назад +1

    I have been down the 1911 upgrade path a number of times. Just finishing up a 9mm Garrison. 12.5 recoil spring, 19 lb. on the hammer and a lighter firing pin return spring. EGW sear and ligjter sear spring. Extensive deburring on the frame and a new Wilson wide U notch rear sight that works fine with the stock front which is .180" high iirc. Got an Ed Brown tritium front site coming that is the same width and height as the stocker. The trigger is pretty good now, only way to improve it further would be with a jig and some Norton stones.

    • @Bill308A10
      @Bill308A10 Год назад

      Just finished my latest build a rock island standard GI variant that was a given to me by a friend. I gutted the entire thing and replaced everything with Wilson and Ed brown parts only thing that’s stock is the grip safety I cut down to a rat tail for a retro look. I’m planning on having the slide dove tailed.

  • @shannonmarcantel7993
    @shannonmarcantel7993 2 года назад +1

    When Joe Chambers did his review of a 5” he said 1997 called and they want their 2 piece guide rod back 😂

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +2

      I laughed pretty hard when I saw that!

  • @niswii
    @niswii 2 года назад +1

    I've heard a lot about people putting a 14 in their 5" and a 12 lb in their 4.25" on the forums.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      I’ve talked to several who are increasing the spring weight and there are a couple different reasons. First is that they are overcoming an issue with their prodigy and adding extra muscle to get the job done. This is done instead of tuning/polishing whatever certain trouble spots in the hope that it will self adjust with round count. Second reason is for increased reliability. Usually if it’s going to be a pistol you’ll depend on an heavier spring is added insurance. Helps it run more reliably with hard us. The Prodigy is basically an entry level race gun. My opinion. But it was design and tested with the help of a well known competitive shooter. Ultimately you have to decide based on what you are doing with it. It can be tuned to your needs/ammo. In my 5” I’m running a 10lb recoil and 19lb main spring. I’m toying with the idea of dropping to a 17 main. We will see. On the 4.25, I just tested ammo with the factory 12lb recoil spring and there are areas of the gun that need some tuning before I change springs. But that being said I have a 12 1/2, 13, and 14lb recoil springs ready to go. I will change the 12 if I determine a need for it.
      Hope that helps. If not, keep asking questions. I’ll do what I can!

  • @nobodytraining
    @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

    Had a request for parts info so I thought I'd make it easier to for everyone and post here:
    10-8 Performance parts www.10-8performance.com/sa-prodigy/ This page you will find the Armorer Block, the tool, the DVD and the Slide Stop gen 2 www.10-8performance.com/categories/1911-Parts/ This page is for the 1911 Hard Pin Set (which I forgot to talk about in the vid...I'm a rookie...untrained, unprofessional for a reason...) I literally bought the last one that's offered in the blue because I tried for 2 and only got 1 in checkout. They do have them in stainless right now. I think the only pin you won't be able to use is the mainspring housing retention pin. Its for a 1911 frame. So just use the stock pin.
    Wilson Combat shopwilsoncombat.com/Bullet-Proof-Parts/products/223/ Right now stuff is on sale (as of Nov 1, 2022)
    Thumb Safety, Ambi Wide (which is what I bought) is $30 off part# 620BP Shok-Buff part# 2B 5" Recoil Spring 10lb
    part# 10G10
    ISMI 11lb Recoil Spring www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-springs/1911-government-recoil-springs-prod7553.aspx
    Ed Brown Extractor www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/action-parts/extractor-parts/extractors/match-extractor-series-70-45-acp-sku087130100-1318-5052.aspx
    EGW
    Ignition Kit- currently out of stock.... www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/ignition-parts/ignition-kits/
    Ignition a la carte... www.egwguns.com/1911-parts/ignition-parts/ Hard Sear #10040 Disconnector Blue #10050
    Hammer Strut #10170 or Titanium #10171 Your choice of hammers on the page. I picked up Lightened 1911 #10205 and then type in 10641 in the search and it will take you to the 19lb mainspring ISMI
    I think I got them all... Well these are the parts I'm trying right now. Hoping they all work

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Just added a Dawson Precision tooless guide rod. Another $4-5k and I’ll have this dialed in! 🤣

    • @Josh-lq1ip
      @Josh-lq1ip 2 года назад

      What is the difference in the 70 and 80 series in the Ed Brown extractor? I'm not sure which one to get. Which one is needed for the 4.5"?
      Much appreciated!

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      @@Josh-lq1ip The series 80 is for a firing pin safety. The Prodigy is series 70 parts

  • @omarnichols7681
    @omarnichols7681 Год назад

    So we're they true drop in and was the sear spring already set or did you have to adjust it to 4lbs?

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад

      They dropped right in for me and others have reported the same. You should keep in mind that sometimes tolerances can be off and you might have to take off a thousandth or so. But that can be done with sand paper and a flat surface so don’t let that hold you back, Omar. I didn’t tweet the spring. It’s how it came from the factory. Quality machines parts make a big difference. Hope that helps!

  • @King3star
    @King3star 2 года назад +1

    Seems like you are building a Staccato... are even better?

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Wasn’t the plan but why fight fate? And I should have known because I REALLY like messing with stuff. The problem is that I might have to find a Stac just to compare…this is sounding like a bad idea…financially. Other than that it’s all good!

  • @ProfessionalWeekender
    @ProfessionalWeekender 2 года назад

    "I give out sunflower seeds to trick-or-treaters" made me actually lol

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      You would be amazed! I put single serve bags of them in with the candy and let the kids pick what they want...and the seeds disappear first. I think they like that it's different. Or I'm surrounded by fellow hill billys. I'm glad you got a good laugh out of it. I try to have fun and hope that others are enjoying it. Thanks for watching!

  • @Justin-os2zc
    @Justin-os2zc 2 года назад

    Why not just get a staccato at this point ?
    Great video though

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      I’m in too deep! Lol. But seriously, everything I’ve gone through on this pistol has been worth it because I’ve learned so much about the platform that I never knew. Granted I still have a lot more to learn. If I would have bought a Staccato I would have just got a great shooting platform and none of the knowledge. So you are watching me pay for my education 🤣

  • @jesselopez1922
    @jesselopez1922 11 месяцев назад

    It would be easier to just buy a Staccato.

  • @crw7450
    @crw7450 2 года назад +1

    One more thing, the 5" Tool-Less Guide Rod for Springfield TRP/Prodigy/Operator from Dawson Precision will work in your 5" model.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +2

      I could have sworn I saw it wouldn't fit. But I'm probably thinking about the 425. I'll re-look at Dawson. Thanks!

  • @jack-ui3ob
    @jack-ui3ob Год назад

    I’m new to the game. Why are people changing their internal to EGW? Which parts are changed? And what is the purpose? Thank you

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад +1

      EGW is a good company and other companies get stuff from them. The parts that EGW sell are machined and not MIM (metal injection molded) and are therefor better tolerances. The Prodigy uses MIM internals. Most seem to change the hammer/sear/disconnector. Better trigger pull and can be stronger parts.
      I started off brand new as well back in September (to the 1911/2011). Just takes a little bit of research

    • @jack-ui3ob
      @jack-ui3ob Год назад +1

      @@nobodytraining thank you very much this help.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад

      No problem! It’s my good deed for the day. 😉

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 2 года назад

    Are you wishing you had just bought a stacato ?

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Believe it or not, no. I’ve learned a lot of new things because of it. If I would have bought a Staccato I would have had a perfect experience with no knowledge gained.

  • @mrtnt2337
    @mrtnt2337 2 года назад

    Can you supply a list of part numbers for the 5"

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      Just for you MrTNT233. But I hid it up at the top of the comments so everyone could find it easier. Thanks for watching the vids!

  • @thatguyoverthere2288
    @thatguyoverthere2288 2 года назад

    For the safariland holster what model gun did you pick for it to work?

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      I tried the colt gov 5” model 7378 which when you use the Holster Finder function you can search for then Prodigy. It fits the gun just fine. It’s not an upper end holster and you’ll see what I mean if you get one. What I didn’t like about it was that the release puts my thumb under the safety when I draw. I’m trying to rework the holster to see if I can fix that but I’m not 100% on it.

    • @thatguyoverthere2288
      @thatguyoverthere2288 2 года назад

      Ok. I'm looking for a holster for my 2011 style. I train with the als so it's good to keep the same movements.

    • @thatguyoverthere2288
      @thatguyoverthere2288 2 года назад

      Ok. I'm looking for a holster for my 2011 style. I train with the als so it's good to keep the same movements.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      @@thatguyoverthere2288 It will work for the Prodigy but you have to get over the safety thing. It could be trained to compensate for but not for me. Holsters for the Prodigy are tough to find. RDR gear is modifying Safariland duty holsters to fit the Prodigy but they are pricey

  • @matthewvolpe7515
    @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад

    Got the Tier 1 holster in this weekend. It rubs a little towards the tip of the slide but aside from that, it fits well. I don’t think it’s worth their asking price though. If I found the Safariland version sooner, I would’ve probably went with that. The big selling point was the black camo finish Tier 1 offered over T Rex’s Ragnarok, and the level 2 safety. Still haven’t had time to see if I like the 12# recoil spring yet. Appreciate your updates though, Nobody. Let me know if you come across anyone else out there with an extended slide lock lever. Seems like 10-8 has a handle on the parts for this so far.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      The problem with holsters is that you don’t know if you’ll like them. Then you spend whatever dollar amount to find it doesn’t work for you. There really needs to be a try before you buy option. There…someone run with that and make dozens of dollars! 🤣

    • @matthewvolpe7515
      @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад

      @@nobodytraining ruclips.net/video/bAZ8zaCoTwA/видео.html is this a reference to you, perhaps?

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      @@matthewvolpe7515 I did see his vid. He is spot on about positive and negative people!! And for those who don’t want to work on the gun themselves or who are worried about warranties they should 100% send it back. I can’t disagree at all. But I’m a nerd and can’t leave stuff alone because I like to ruin my warranty and you can bet your little red wagon that I paid attention to the list 😉. Thanks for looking out for me!

    • @matthewvolpe7515
      @matthewvolpe7515 2 года назад

      @@nobodytraining here’s the catch. I sent mine back to SA and “tinkered” myself. I’m like you, I like to remedy issues on my own, as long as they’re within my realm. I got you covered, lol.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад +1

      @@matthewvolpe7515 I always figure that whatever I mess with I have to be comfortable with the idea of buying a new one. The value of learning is more important to me. It will be really interesting to see what they say about yours.

  • @AvantiusMaximus
    @AvantiusMaximus 2 года назад

    Is there a specific model for the WC safety?

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      The Prodigy was designed to take most 1911 parts with fire control and safeties among those. I’m going to try the wide safety. My thought is that I can get more meat on it and maybe better leverage. I’m not not an expert on these things so take that with a grain of salt. Also, depending on holster design, the wide safety may or may not work. Just an fyi. Thanks for watching, AM! Let me know what route you end up going!

  • @dvcer11boo8
    @dvcer11boo8 2 года назад

    What weight recoil spring do you recommend for the 4.25? I’m launching brass about 18’ with the stock spring/factory 115 gr ammo.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      I think I’d actually try another 12lb just in case the one that came from the factory was defective. If you are planning on tuning with recoil spring just grab a 13 and 14 as well. You can also adjust with the main spring. I’ve seen 2 different numbers on what the Prodigy mainspring is weighted at. 20 and 25lbs. I think it’s 20. So maybe look a couple pounds above that. You could tune between the 2 springs to get the throw that you want.

    • @dvcer11boo8
      @dvcer11boo8 2 года назад +1

      Thanks man. I have the 12,13 and 14 lb coming.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      @@dvcer11boo8 no problem. Let me know what the fix ends up being in case others run into the same problem

    • @dvcer11boo8
      @dvcer11boo8 2 года назад +1

      @@nobodytraining I put in the new Wolff 12 lb and still had a couple of times the slide needed a bump to close. Put in the 13 lb Wolff and it ran fine.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  2 года назад

      @@dvcer11boo8 Cool beans! So the 13 is getting past whatever is catching the round or slowing down the slide. Have you polished the top of the chamber where the bullet nose makes contact or the top of the ramp where the bevel is (case can catch here)? I can’t remember if I already asked you about that. If not, look into doing that. Smoothed out feeding for me

  • @Avg_Vet
    @Avg_Vet Год назад

    Did your 10-8 slide stop work or did you have to modify it. Mine is not drop in ready.

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад +1

      Hey Tony- this is usually a part that can require fitting a little because the shaft diameter is a true .200. The Springfield one is a couple thou smaller. But it’s easy to do so don’t worry! You will need some Flitz, Jb bore paste or another mild abrasive. You’ll put that stuff on the barrel legs where the pin rides along with the barrel link along with a little lube oil. You’ll work the slide back and forth and wear it in. It will be tough at first because that slide won’t want to move. I can’t remember which video I did but it shows me racking the slide against my wood workbench, catching it with the rear sights. Make sure your sight screws are tight fyi lol. You’ll do this, clean it, check to see if you can move the slide, reapply the Flitz or whatever and keep going till it’s smooth. If I remember I’ll tell you which video it was.
      Let me know if you have any questions!

    • @Avg_Vet
      @Avg_Vet Год назад

      @@nobodytraining i appreciate the help. I went thru all your videos and finally found it. It was in this one…
      ruclips.net/video/nGXfnDiPZ60/видео.html

    • @nobodytraining
      @nobodytraining  Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/nGXfnDiPZ60/видео.html