WARNING!!! "Rough Ryder, Highland Bowie Knife", is CRAP!
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Removing the handle scales of the Rough Ryder HIGHLAND BOWIE KNIFE. To reveal a Dirty Little Secret. They Lied! It's NOT full-tang. "Fraud" WARNING, WARNING, WARNING! I contacted Rough Ryder by Email and told them my concerns and that I suspected it wasn’t really full-tang and I never got a response,... so here is truth about this knife.
Thanks for doing this, that's Rough Ryder off my list of possibilities. Shameful for a company to so clearly lie about a knifes construction.
Thanks for the reveal! All you guys that got stiffed on this turkey might consider contacting your state attorney general's office; they have a division that investigates consumer fraud, and yes enticing you to buy a product through false advertising about what it is, IS A CRIME! Also there's a safety issue that makes it even worse than just you losin' $. The AG can put the seller on the hot seat - Either refund everybody's $, pay a substantial fine OR, well you can guess the other unpleasant option! The sneaky seller is banking on folks not wanting the hassle of instigating legal action and just writing it off as a stupid buy, but hey, give 'em a surprise - Rat the Bastards out! RUclips reveal good, but it won't stop the con; only the Man can do that!! And like you say Joe, it's a nice design so why not build it right instead of cuttin' corners? Guess we know the answer: Stuff made in a far distant Land!
It's amazing how much work was put into that piece work assembly. Gotta think it'd be cheaper to build it full tang, eh. But I guess that's what you get sometimes from ultra-cheap labor. Thanks for the video JD.
I agree. The knife is beautiful. There is No Way it could be cheaper to pull this stunt. I’ve found out that most of the Rambo 5 “Heart Stopper” knives have ridiculous nonsense like this hidden inside the handle scales. I refuse to purchase them because of it. Plus they are way overpriced, cheap steel. I gotta admit, I don’t like it when companies Skeletonize the tang of a knife and claim it’s to save on weight. I would rather the knife was heavier and a bit less balanced but was an unbreakable work horse. Oh well,… it usually comes down to money. Whatever it takes to save a penny at the customers expense. Rough Ryder lost all future business from me.
It is a really crap design!! Thanks for the analysis. Can't understand why they do this.
Dude Thanks For The Unmasking. I own This Knife. Now it's just a wall hanger. Full Tang not even a rat tail it's a mouse tail.
i have a rough rider drop point bowie... i watched this vid and examined my blade more closely... i welded the guard to the blade and the handle... now when i bang it on wood (i had already thoroughly tested it and it only showed cracks between the handle and guard where the "full tang" is seen from the front and back) it does not clink, but produces a solid sound. now i have more confidence in the blade than i ever did....it is still a magnificent blade after cleaning the welds up with a grinder, then a variable speed rotor tool... aka dremel.
Wow, they really did the consumer dirty. The tang is far too skinny for a blade that big. Now I’m all for stick tangs if they’re done properly but considering this one’s small size and the deceptive construction, there is no redeeming factor on this. For a knife that handsome to be hardly usable outside of light cutting tasks is a damn shame.
I was thinking to the push tang would go back to the second rivet. That was a total shocker and a disappointment. I’m so glad I didn’t buy this knife.
Tobias Gibson ,... ya. I almost bought a second one. It’s a total Fraud. I can’t believe SMKW and other companies are still selling it as a full tang knife. Rough Ryder won’t even answer me. So Screw Them. I’m done with their CRAP.
Thank you for your video, I brought this knife in Australia for 110 Au Dollars and after seeing you video have returned the knife for a refund, it's a shame as it is a good looking knife. Thank you for your time to let other people know about this particular product. Be Safe Cheers, Roger C
The bolt going through the handle is probably how they would keep the blade from falling off
EFFIN AYE BOLOGNA SANDWICH! 🤬
It just seems like that tac’d on little tab tang design is a lot more labor intensive than a single slab of metal.
This investigation has brought into question ALL of Rough Rider “full tang” knife like objects.
Good job!
Grrrrrrr...I bought one a few years ago and really liked it, a real solid feeling big beefy knife. Little did I know it's a piece of crap....sad day. Thanks for exposing this trash, shame on Rough Rider!!!
I hear ya. I felt exactly the same way. It’s a dirty shame. Thanx for watching & commenting.
I was about to buy this for a display piece (but I only want practical pieces) figured I'd look for reviews.... Yikes! even worse, in the UK its £52 or $71!
I just talked to an eBay seller by the name of Midwest supply company and showed them your video after I bought this knife for $26 which is fine for this type of Tang I don't mind $26 because I just like the shape of the knife. But after I show them your video I told them they may want to change the description they have listed as full Tang on their sale on eBay period even after being shown the video evidence they refused to change their description and they told me that they didn't think it was the same knife and they also said that there was defects in the Tang that's why it looked that way not that it was welded so be sure to steer clear of them on eBay because they won't even acknowledge the fact that they got it wrong and they will lie to you to make a sale
Terrible way to do business. I bought mine from SMKW and at least they changed their description about it ,... which is good. I contacted Rough Ryder and they won’t even respond. So No more R.R. Purchases for me. Thanks for the heads up. HONESTY Is all a person asks,... they just need to come clean & say it’s a welded partial tang. That’s it. -- I’m planning on doing a Glock 78 & 81 Field knife review soon,... the Glock knife has a short partial tang, but it’s fixed in “Glock Polymer”, and I’ve seen so many destruction tests, of the Glock Knife and it’s CRAZY STRONG! Almost indestructible. So like a Mora Knife I will probably give the Glock Field knife a Chance. - that being said: The Highland Bowie is a wall hanger in my book.
@@JoeDoomsday absolute facts I bought mine for the look and the design....the only reason I got mine for $26 is because it was under auction and no one else was bidding probably because of the video for the link I postedI have a few other rough Rider knives that are actually full tank and for the price I pay for them which is pennies I'm actually happy with the other ones but the only ones I would ever use for hard use or Bushcraft are knives made by Ka-Bar Cold steel and condor
@@JoeDoomsday the following is a copy and paste of the response from Midway supplying....
New message from: midwestsupplying (35,658)
We appreciate your business and confidence at the time in which you placed this order and the other orders you've placed in our other stores here on eBay, yes we're seeing your id in some of the other anchor stores that we have here in the marketplace.
Unfortunately we won't be changing the [provided by the manufacturer] description because of a RUclips video.
Also, I was able to see part of the video, and what we can see there is that the specific unit that person was displaying (which I'm not even sure it's of this model), had defects in the tang underneath the handle, but it's even perceptible that it's full tang in the video.
If we can help in anything else don't hesitate to contact.
Regards,
Customer Support
Midwest Supply LLC
@@knighthawk3759 ,... I’m glad to hear that your other Rough Ryder knives are good. It’s just from what I’ve found, if you ever have a problem with one of them, don’t expect a response or a refund from them.
@@JoeDoomsday facts..... The manufacturer for timberwolf timber rattler and rough Rider are all either knives coming from Pakistan or China and they do not have any response the best thing you could do is talk to the person you bought it from and see if there's any type of a warranty situation
Hey, thanks for doing this video. I have been eyeballing this knife for a couple of years because it looks to be a truly elegant and beautiful fighting/outdoor knife. But I have had my suspicions for some time about whether it was a solid full-tang construction or not. So, thanks for butchering yours, so I don't have to! I may still buy it for kitchen use because of its looks, but I wouldn't trust it for anything else. However, if they took this design and beefed up the tang, sorted the balance issues, and perhaps even used better quality steel, it would be an absolute winner for me.
Thanks again... Peter, (UK)
Thank you for this review this knife is absolutely garbage. I nearly bought it too until I saw this . So thanks again
Thank you for the review and destroying your knife to save us all some money. Was looking at this knife and it's a $100 dollar knife down here in Australia.
Thanks for pointing out this issue. It's a shame because I was going to possibly buy one for fun. But, oh well I'll stick with ESEE and TOPS knives.
Thanks for the public service announcement. This sucks, It makes me even reconsider all of their other products as well which is sad. I hope they don’t take short cuts in other areas, but more than likely they do. I was just about to buy several of their fixed blades, but because of this video I won’t. Close call 😥
I don't buy anything from them anymore.
I've got one , all I can say is wow,
Dishonesty is rampant in our country now. Very sad.
YUP! I’ve heard multiple reasons why a company would do this but if they are going to do it,… then at least they should have the decency to describe it as a false tang in their description.
@@JoeDoomsday I agree.
That's awful how they did the Tang 😢
It’s terrible
Wow! I ain't never seen such a crappie job on knife making. Now I know why companies like Rough Rider are so cheap. Just Stay Away! 😂😂😂
Thanks for doing this! Never thought this would be such a tiny little tang 😲
You're welcome. - I couldn't believe it myself, and Rough Ryder wouldn't even respond back to me. It's a real Shame.
@@JoeDoomsday it is indeed 😬
Well he called that .thanks joe
Hey Bro,
It's too bad that it's not really full tang but I do believe with a bit of added strong epoxy, something like G-flex a long with the brass liner, the thick pins,etc.
It would probably be fine for most reasonable use. The G-flex would definitely help solidify it.
One thing to consider when thinking about shorter tangs or partial tangs(admittedly, perhaps not quite as short as this one) is that they were actually used historically on both combat knives and swords.
Many were held on with a short or partial tang with just pitch, Some Indian Talwars and Kukris are examples that immediately come to mind.
Might be an interesting thing to experiment with instead of throwing it in the trash.
Ngrave Phenom ,...I agree. But, I already pitched it. I have partial tang knives like my Mora’s and a few others. My main complaint is that it’s Marketed as a Full-Tang Bowie knife,... when in reality it’s just a “tiny tang”, kitchen tomato slicer. I’m tired of outright lies from knife companies.
@@JoeDoomsday I hear ya on that part for sure 👍
@@JoeDoomsday Moras actually have more substantial tangs on knives that are half the size and half the weight.
Pyewack3t ,... true. I love my Mora Kniv collection. The Garberg is not only Amazing, it’s Also FULL TANG.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya
How many fractions of a cent would that even save?. Wouldn't it have been faster just to make it a normal full tang since they're going through all of the trouble of building the handle conventionally anyway?.
I’ve heard several explanations why a company might do it and how it could save a little money and speed up the knife making process But,… I don’t care why they did it. I don’t want it. I didn’t appreciate the false advertising either, claiming it was full-tang. I don’t do business with rough Ryder knives anymore. I did purchase a couple folding pocket knives from them but they weren’t worth it either. Walmart quality crap. 💩
@@JoeDoomsday
Yeah I'll only buy rough ryder folders if they're sub $10. After seeing this I won't buy their fixed blades at all. I hope you were able to get your money back.
@@patrickriarchy6054 ,… Nope. I contacted SMKW they said contact Rough Ryder yourself, so I did, multiple times and they never responded. There is No real customer service from my experience. Nothing. I avoid SMKW now also. I did notice they had a disclaimer put on that knife after all the customer complaints that said: “Some buyers of this knife say it’s Not a true Full-Tang knife.” Total bull crap.
@@JoeDoomsday
I'm sorry man, that blows. Everyone appreciates you exposing them though. Such a nice looking knife with a fake tang...
Wow thanks for the show
👍🏻🇺🇸
What a scam. I bought this thinking it was full tang. Thats just shit.
Thanks a lot man. Really sorry for that. Please excuse me for disturbing you... you did a very important and necessary thing!! Thanks
cafe qc ,... no problems man. You didn’t disturb me. I’m glad you let me know,...it was a real eye opener. And to think, I almost bought a second one. 🤦♂️
Disappointed with Rough Rider, I own a folder which is good. Being dishonest with your customers is not good business.
I’m surprised this video hasn’t been taken down by youtube as misinformation.
These days..
I’ve got one of these knives, i think it’s a beautiful knife design and definitely sharp but i wouldn’t use it other than self defence, not even cutting tomatoes.
Good old China
No doubt. A little too much truth in this video. I agree,… it’s Sharp, & Beautiful. I was going to purchase a second one I liked it so much. Then I got a Tip from another RUclipsr about the tang so I decided to check before I kept buying them and sure enough it was a Fake! It’s crazy that they put so much time into the knife just to pull a stunt like this with the Tang. If it had removable handle scales and a real, full tang ,… it would have been one of my absolute favorites & I would have purchased more knives from them. But, because they did this and wouldn’t even respond to my emails I will NEVER by a Rough Ryder knife ever again.
It would be cool if you did that with so many other knives I can think of. Do a Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie next.
I only did it with this knife because I got a heads up, about it, from: Donnie-B All-Day! so I checked it out, because I was just about to purchase a second one,... that's how much I liked the overall, look of this Highland Bowie. but instead of getting repeat business they got "found out" for their false advertising and scamming ways! As far as the Timber Rattler goes,... I don't even like it. I don't care one way or the other,... It's been stored away for years. I would Love To see YOU,... Destroy the Timber Rattler or some other knives, at your expense. LOL,... Peace.
thats even dangerous man just ordered the stacked leather bowie hope this one is better
Thanks! Saved me buying this piece of crap!
No problem. I almost bought a second one!!! Before I knew it was Garbage.
I wouldn't never buy another Rough Ryder, a lot of them are real fair for the price and what you get. They updated the website description for this one today and they say they didn't know it wasn't full tang, which I believe.
I didn't buy one of these though after going back and forth with myself for a while over it. For a knife of that size and that look at that price, I ultimately decided that there just had to be something under the skin, even when you consider the made in China aspect. Guess I was right.
Michael Fleming ,... I’m glad to hear they updated there website. - they still could have responded to me, which they did Not do. I too thought it was a lot of knife for the money, that’s why I recommended it. If something sounds too good to be true then it probably is. I find it hard to believe Rough Ryder didn’t destruction test the knife before they started selling it.
Solution: weld the guard to the blade and weld the guard to the handle
Imagine now Joe, if someone trusted this stub and died anywhere in the forest or in the claws of a bear...
I think that for such a deception, the manufacturer needs to take his head off - that is not forgivable.
cafe qc ,... This is one reason I take multiple knives, axe or hatchet & a bag of gear when I head out to the Mountain. If something went horribly wrong and you found yourself in a life or death situation where your life might depend on that blade and it Breaks ! Because it’s a piece of Crap! Chaps my Azz. Especially because I reviewed it and recommended it to people. Good grief.
Backyard Samurai ,... no doubt. That’s why I also bring my shotgun & revolver! It’s still pretty sad though,.... I had high hopes for the Rough Ryder company,... The quality was always there, & I trusted them that they wouldn’t do something like this.
@Backyard Samurai You are right and I understand all this - but such a lie is not excusable to anyone.
You understand bushcraft, Joe understands, I understand... but some girl or office white collar imagines himself a rambo and will be left without a knife after brushing a carrot in the wood. China made is often just like that - how much you pay is what you have
I thought all Rough Ryder's were crap you don't get a good knife for less than $15 do you?
It is Crap. I paid $24.99 + tax. - It was listed as a full-tang knife by Rough Ryder & SMKW. I expected imperfections with the fit & finish and a cheap steel that wouldn’t hold an edge very well. I didn’t expect outright lies and a false, “full-tang”, potentially dangerous product.
I’m not arguing any of the points of your video but I am curious. What are the odds of that little tang actually breaking? What kind of use could I expect to be able to get out of that? I’m speaking from a purely practical standpoint here. Thank you for the video! Subscribed.
I would say the odds are pretty high considering it looks like it's tac welded with only about a quarter inch of contact on only two points. You would only really be able to slice with it and not be able to chop at all without the handle splitting or coming loose since it looks like they relied on a handle rivet also being a retaining piece of that tiny tang.
It's not a Full Tang completely but it is a full rat tail I would believe.,yes a stick tang is what I'm thinking 🤔.
Now that's awful , a few years back I purchased a knife with a tang.like that from BudK.
And now it's a wall hanger.
@@powerplay4real174 ,… yep. It was a good looking knife. It turned out to be a big letdown though.
I love rough rider but you really do need to be careful with the products you buy, they’re either good knives or total garbage
This knife has always bothered me ( because of that false advertising ).
I’m still so very curious though …
Did you ever remove the guard ?????
I mean the handle tang has got to end somewhere right ??
Does the handle tang meet where the guard ??
And the guard will obviously conceal that ??
If you still have , I’d love to know what it looks like without that guard .
( I figure yours is already dismantled).
It’s a head scratcher yes .
I have never seen such a teeny tiny tang haha .
Hope your day is well my brother 🤠
I thought I threw it away but the other day I saw it in a box that was buried in my shed. I don’t think I ever took the guard off I just assumed that the blade and that little 1” inch tang was one solid piece that was spot welded to the handle. Which is visible in my video. I don’t know exactly what is going on underneath that guard. If I come across it again I will check. 👍🏻.
@@JoeDoomsday Oh wow !!
You are more than likely correct ….
I broke mine out after being stowed away for what ….. 2 years or so ???
It really is a heart breaker ( not a heart stopper ) haha 😂.
I was happy to find zero rust or sheath staining .
Needs to be cleaned up a bit but that’s about it .
Even with the false advertising ( which I hate cause my biggest pet peeve in life are in fact liars ), but I’m thinking of doing a future Vid titled “ Rough Rider Highland Bowie …. Do I still like it “????
And I would also love to shout you out too .
You made a terrific video on the matter .
I think all I really to know are 2 things :
1- what is going on under that guard
And
2- is Rough Rider still advertising as a full tang blade .
If they were completely honest , I still would of purchased .
I love the size and shape .
They did not have to lie ( unless they were lied to as well without checking the facts ).
Thanks again brother 🤠❤️🔪
@@tubes5150 ,… That’s Cool with me. I contacted Rough Ryder and they wouldn’t contact me back. So I contacted SMKW and they never responded either but about 6-8 months later they had it listed as “possibly not”, full tang or something along those lines. Pretty Lame. They should quit selling them. Give them to a carnival booth operator. Like In those “Knife Toss” games! 😂 The knife is beautiful,… but it’s a polished turd. In my humble opinion. Because of my back injury I don’t know when or how I will get to or dig thru my pack-rat of a shed. (It’s a private, lock down shed on the other side of town). As soon as I can I will try to make it happen and I will let you know. Your video about it could spare others the hassle. Several people have thanked me for my video. I was tipped off about it by “Donny B all day”,… anyway, Stay Safe , Stay strong, brother! 👍🏻🤙🏻
@@JoeDoomsday as you my friend …
Take it easy !! That back of mine is a real pain too ….. now other ailments just an added bonus .
Life is Good ❤️
@@JoeDoomsday Thanks for reminding me … haha
I was so excited to send that out to him ( I gifted him that Rough Rider Highland ).
So devastated he broke it .
Broke my heart .
Didn’t see That coming haha .
Oh well .
china lying who would guess.lol
ive never seen anything like that
That is a shroud tang.
Whatever it’s called,… it’s crap. It was listed as Full-Tang.
@@JoeDoomsdayI bought a beautiful knife from KCCEDGE. Stay away from them. The exact situation as your knife. Returned immediately.
Smoky mountain knife works has been pawning this junk off for years. Their latest scam is their new 'Rough Rider Reserve' line with some serious price increases for supposedly top line quality.."the equal of any traditional knife maker in the country"....yeah right.....give em a pass....
Framus Burns-Hagstrom III ,... amen. They lost all my business.
What a shame..
Yep. It’s a great “looking” knife. But it’s Crap.
@@JoeDoomsday
Yes its indeed a beautyful blade..
I wanted to buy one but i knew the tang was not fulltang and i knew how the knife was builded.
Just a shame.
This knife can even be dangerous for the user.
I have 1 or 2 rough Rider blades but those are very well made.
I dont understand rough rider did this just to spare some money..
@@sergeantdef.3572 ,… someone told me it somehow speeds up production of a knife because the two different parts can be made at different times or even different factories. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Plus they lied and said it was a full-tang knife. Then they refused to answer my emails or refund my money. I don’t like their service or their company anymore.
@@JoeDoomsday
Indeed..and then they even go lie that its full tang.
Every site i see this knife they say full tang..
@@sergeantdef.3572 , I agree that it is a potentially Dangerous knife & it bothers me that everyone just ignores this fact and they keep selling it as a full-tang knife, just like You said. There are other companies, that like to skeletonize the tang of their knives and pretend that they are full-tang also. I’m like: make the knives Full-Tang or at least admit that they are Not truly Full-Tang. They need to be honest. Sometimes they say it costs more money to skeletonize a knife tang. Like somehow that makes it OK to do and to lie to their customers.
Why ? That's just sad . At least do a solid weld on the tang . The Hitler youth blade are the same way.
Yes you are right. But NEVER Hitler, or his pioneers, or Linder company, NEVER declared that this knife is FULL TANG!!
I hat it when they do that it's false advertisement not full tang bloody liers
How could they not go full tang this , but do an okay stacked leather handle , that's pretty reasonable tough ...
I'm kinda fond of the few rough riders I've handled , but this , is , well , crap
Glad I never bought one of the highland bowie knives
Bought two of them guess I got took everybody is building junk now days
John Rossell ,... it’s a real shame. I almost bought a second one this past Friday because they were back in stock at SMKW.com. - I wish companies that sell these products would destruction test a sample before they peddle them on the public considering they buy in huge bulk. Both SMKW & Rough Ryder claimed these were truly Full-Tang knives.
do a destruction test...
Total junk bro
Yes it is. It’s a piece of Sheit !
@@JoeDoomsday lol I'd say
There are more expansive knives with tangs like this or even that screw-on -to-pommel thing, and talking about custom knives costs many hundreds of dollars. Sue hem too, first time buying a knife or whart ? At least this company is honest not to rip peopels money off
Are You Kidding? You must be drunk. This company is Not honest. They sell it as a full-tang knife,… it’s a blade,… tack welded to a separate metal handle piece. That equals: CRAP ! false advertising fraud. They won’t even respond or refund my money. This knife is garbage. The tack welds look like a retard did them.