I RODE A TIKTOK GUY'S MOTORCYCLE & HE'S MAD!
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Riding my 2023 BMW M 1000 RR to Sills to collect my 2024 BMW S 1000 RR for it's 1st ride and cleaning. Explaining why I test rode ThoughtTaken's S 1000 RR.
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Everyone acts like this was a simple thing where Zac asked you to ride this bike out of the blue.....COUDLNT BE FURTHER from the truth!! Go watch his content....he has this "phantom" shifting issue, where when he is hammering the bike it misses a shift. He has bruoght the bike to zac half a dozen times and made at least a dozen video's slamming Zac and slamming Sills BMW. He has logged complaints with BMW corporate...and this is all BEFORE 650Ib rode his bike. They simply want the bike fixed and him out of their hair. NO ONE ELSE, but this kid can make the bike do what he is saying is happening, hence why Zac asked Ib to ride the thing I would assume. He has taken SO MUCH of Zacs time. Everyone seems to think its illegal for a dealership to do this....its ABSOLUTELY NOT. Yes, they are liable if the bike gets damaged, but when you sign the work order you are giving them permission to do whatever they need to in order to diagnose your problem. This happens ALL THE TIME, where someone outside a dealership is brought in to diagnose issues or to do specialized work on a vehicle.....yeah, its not usually one of thier customers, but this kid was putting them in a horrible position and they simply want the bike fixed. I stated on his channel that REALISTICALLY, SILLS SHOULD HAVE SIMPLY REFUSED TO WORK ON HIS BIKE ANYMORE and sent him packing. There is NOTHING saying that Sills HAS TO FIX his bike. Its a warranty issue (supposedly) so they would be fully in their rights to tell him to take his business elsewhere.....which I TRULY HOPE THEY DO!!! If anything he is upset because now when he says its still happening, Zax is able to say that a guy who has owned like 20 of these exact bikes, who we all know, cant make it happen, so its happening because of an error between teh seat and the bars....he no longer has credibility.
Well said. Great comment and I agree with you 💯
@@redrider0151 Why are you complicating it? A simple call to Matthew to ask him if it was okay for someone out of the dealer could test it was the solution. Simple. Someone outside of the dealer diagnosing issues happens from time to time, but guess what? They ask permission from the owner first, the person who paid for the motorcycle.
@@dx-v-xb Agreed, but since Zak and I didn't call him we deserve to get our names tarnished on all social media platforms? Sills deserves to lose business, I've lost subscribers and revenue while ThoughtTaken has earned over $10,000 from this content? That seems fair to you?
@redrider0151 personally I would consider that an honor if he cared enough to test my bike out,Should of been something to brag about,not complain ,
@@650ib My feelings are that he WOULDNT want to let you ride the bike, as then he can continue to say the bike has issues... as if anyone with any credibility and is not affiliated with the dealership rides the bike and cant make the issue happen then it points to him as being the problem.....he WANTS the problem to continue so he can continue to make content. Sills simply needs to shut him down and tell him to take his business elsewhere...then he can put it out there how they arent taking care of thier customers...but at least its DONE....and SIlls can counter and say they went above and beyond expectations but that it is apparent that he will NEVER be satisfied. THey should have done this the second time he came in and produced content that slagged them....he used thier reputation to create this mess so he could get views....and now they and you are left holding the bag for doing the right thing. I fyou called him to ask permission and he said no, then you can bet that the bike would still supposedly be broken and he would be putting out content slagging them for wanting you to ride it and he would continue pushing this nonsense about how bad they are.
Idk about this one IB…. The dealership is at fault for giving you a customers bike and the least they could’ve done was call him before they handed you the bike. I’m aware of how much of an experienced rider you are and if anything happened while testing the bike you would’ve definitely covered it… the least the dealership could do is apologise to you for putting you in this position and apologise to the guy as well for not contacting him before giving you the bike
I may be wrong but I think you’re taking the stance you’re taking because you don’t wanna throw Sill’s under the bus which is fair considering you guys have been business partners for years and years
I just don't think Sills did anything wrong here. Zak worked on his bike all day and just wanted to me to confirm it was fixed. I'm sure they didn't charge him for all the time Zak spend on the bike. I will say this, had ThoughtTaken called and visited Sills and expressed his 'anger' with the situation, everyone would have apologized to him. But since he decided to produce content on all platforms slamming Sills, that wasn't nice at all.
@@650ibyou're insane to think you should be allowed to touch someone else's shit without their permission. it is literally that simple. and for him to not only let it happen but make it happen is even crazier
@@forrestrimar4283 your language sums it up. Thanks for commenting
@@forrestrimar4283 The DEALERSHIP is ultimately responsible for the bike and anyone they let diagnose it.....its COMMON to bring in outside help....but your right...they shouldnt have let 650Ib ride it...they should have just given him back the bike and told him to get it fixed someplace else.
@@redrider0151 Literally everything you said is completely irrelevant under the idea that THEY DIDNT ASK THE OWNER. Don't be stupid man
Funny you backing a dealer that would do that. I hope you know that means they could do the same to you with your bike.. 🙄
If they did... I wouldn't care
@@650ib I wouldn’t cry like thoughtaken too 😂🤣
You have multiple videos of other people riding your motorcycles. And actually, enjoying it lmao 🙂
@@jasongebhardt9194 Yessir
Nothing against you IB but in my opinion the dealership is in the wrong. Much love ❤
I respect your opinion but the dealership did nothing wrong. I have more experience riding motorcycles and the S 1000 RR than anyone at the dealership. So, it's okay for the janitor at Sills that has never ridden a S 1000 RR to ride his bike because he 'works' there? Also, before this nonsense happened I was cool with ThoughtTaken and could have ridden his bikes with no issues and he could have ridden mine. Zak knew that and didn't see an issue with me testing out his bike.
I'd sue that dealer.
@650ib I would have told the dealer to call the bike owner and ask him if it was ok first.
I'm sure some of your followers have been riding bikes longer than you ib, would you be ok if they stopped by the dealer and took one of your machines out? Probably not.
@@650ib Why can't you just admit it wasn't right? Is it ego?
@@650ibthats some great context. Controversy sells though so there you go
Yeah you know you can ride nobody else bike, it’s like smashing someone wife. I’ve seen bike accidents and the guy runs to the bike before picking up his girlfriend or wife.
But I let everyone ride my bikes including a perfect stranger that rode my brand new H2 in 2016....
As you get older you grow out of that mentality it’s not like smashing someone wife and checking your bike after an accident and not your loved one
A bike is material not important
Maturity is going to give that to you
@@650ib You LET the stranger ride your h2. Matthew DIDN'T let you ride it because he didn't even know you were. If he was just informed that you'd be riding it even you know he would've let you.
@@akhil73944 showing your ignorance here. Matthew and I have known each other for over 3yrs. We're both Social Media Influencers for Rahal Ducati Cleveland and work together. He's offered to let me ride his bikes before and as most people already know, almost anyone can ride my bikes. I hope this gives you a better understanding of the situation.
no person worth one single sh*t would be worried about their bike before their loved one. this is one of the most insane things i’ve ever heard lol
I’m 50 years old, you as a stranger would not be welcome to ride my machine without permission. That’s just how it is. You know it too ib. You were wrong to do it, you even admit your spidey sense tingled and warned you. It was at that moment you should have said, ‘hey Zac, ask permission.’ I have been one of your followers for many many years. Sometimes even experienced riders make small mistakes. No one is perfect. This was just a minor error. Admit that, and move on. Learn from it. We are all human bro. Mad love. 💚
I'm surprised Zack didn't get in trouble for letting a non-employee take a customers bike off property.
I don’t have a dog in the fight but riding someone else’s bike without permission is wrong no way around it. Now if the dealership miscommunicated that’s one thing, but the guy was done wrong, period.
No....the guy has been lighting up the dealership for months....he has this phantom issue that no one else but him seems to have happen with the bike...and everytime he brings it in, its so that he can make more content slamming the dealership and Zac. So this time Zac tried getting someone else to do a sanity check...that he trusts...dealers bring in outside contractors literally ALL THE TIME to assist in things....granted its usually not another customer, but as long as the bike wasnt damaged and the dealership didnt try to avoid responsibility for any damage then there is NOTHING to cry foul about. Personally, the minute the kid posted a negative video I would have told him to take it to a different dealership.
Dammn bro everything gonna be alright 🎉 Don't worry dude your content is awesome lots of support for you man 💯❤
I appreciate it
Followed you for a minute and Mr.woods for a minute. You’re a very experienced rider personally if you took out a bike I’d be mentally not worried but on the dealers end you should never let anyone ride a customers bike bc anything could happen and you aren’t covered by the dealer. But harassment over helping a mechanic whose a friend is a little ridiculous
Thank you and you're correct. I have an insurance policy that covers me for any vehicle (car, truck, bus) that I operate. I had to get this policy in order to test drive bikes and cars that are uninsured or under insured. His bike would have been replaced by a 2024 S 1000 RR if I would have destroyed it.
@@650ib see perfect no need to cause drama and stir shit up all bc you helped diagnose homies bike. Most moto creators just do anything for views like attacking the OGs
Agree bro
What are you having 5up do to your busa i thought it was done@650ib
Let him ride your s1000rr 😂
IMO your in the wrong, I don’t care who you are, you don’t ride someone’s bike unless they give you permission, the dealer completely in the wrong in doing so and shows there professionalism or lack there of.
And saying that if the tables were turned and he took your M1000 for a ride with the dealer giving him permission you wouldn’t care, I’m sorry but I don’t believe that, not for a second.
ThoughtTaken and I have know eachother for over 3yrs and I offered my H2 to him to ride. Yes, he can take my M 1000 RR or any of my other bikes for a ride. They're meaningless to me and not the same as my family. 8yrs ago I let a dude I didn't know ride my brand new H2. I've never cared about stuff like that. ThoughtTaken doesn't care either, he simply wanted to produce content for views and cash.
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There are certain guys that I know and ride with and we occasionally use the same BMW dealership. I would have zero issue with them riding my bike, especially since the techs know that we're all good friends.
In this case, it's not like Zak just grabbed some stranger that was just walking down the street or something. 😂
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I’m 46 and love bike content, subscribed to YOUR channel. 1). Be careful of creating a generational divide in your viewers young folks opinions have weight too. 2) Seeing both sides and opinions, I think it was unsatisfactory for the dealer to let anyone outside of their employment to operate a customers bike. That’s the issue being taken because it VIOLATES TRUST and that’s what most of the chatter is about from young and old alike. It’s palpable to anyone wanting to have something unique. 3) I’m not a subscriber to his channel but from what I read your comment was a bit out of pocket and honestly not what I’d expect from an older or mature person. It seemed innocent and if it was I’d take the high road which older folks preach about and just say sorry for your part. Lots of content and views from this for both of you. Still Sub’d hope you take this the right way. Stay safe, also if you were riding your RSV4 this would’ve never happened lol 😂
A lot to address in this video, but I wanted to address 5:00 directly. You're wrong, I had a lot of genuine anger that Sill's asked you to take the S1k out without going through me first. Back in 2019, my first bike cost me $2300. The fact I have the opportunity to own the bikes I have these days is nothing but a blessing, but to be able to buy an S1k at 22 required a lot of work. That bike is a representation of that work, and to have it not only lay broken for a good chunk of the season, but then ridden by others without my explicit permission is like a slap in the face.
I said in my original video that I had no anger towards you, I probably would've done the same thing in your position given that the burden of responsibility fell upon the dealer, not you. But I think your reaction to a few comments from my fans who didn't understand my video, are a shame.
Your fans came to me with disrespect and aggression and my response ALOT nicer but FIRM and didn't back down. Their comments have been deleted and they're blocked. I had to make this video in response to yours or the comments would continue. As I mentioned in the 🎥 I understand why you produce the content and wish you continued success.
I understand where you come from but on the other hand if the bike gets fixed and they didn't let some kid that has never rode a bike take it out. I know deep inside you understand why that happened the way it did. I think they should have given you a call first though. I think the solution to this problem is ib needs to let you ride your choice of any bike he has then let this minor first world problem die.
@@650ibmost of the comments including me stated multiple times that Matthew wasn’t mad at you specifically. The unnecessarily negative comments were people goading a response from you which they got.
@@danlford everyone knows that he can ride my bikes if he wanted. It's not a problem for me.
💩taken the next bike his gonna ride is you're gf
This video should've started with an apology. It was wrong on the dealers behalf & they should've at least tried to get permission before letting you on the bike. As we all know people can be very passionate about their bikes. Followed for years, like the content, don't know the other kid, but please accept responsibility & don't try justify what happened or make excuses for it. Just my 2p worth.
Offering fake and undeserving apologies to people is partially what's to blame for the state of society. Zak and I didn't wake up that morning with the intent to upset or injur ThoughtTaken. We were trying to HELP resolve his motorcycle issue. ThoughtTaken would have let me ride his bike with no issue, but since Zak or I didn't think to take 45 seconds to call or text him (I have his cell number in my phone) for permission, we're wrong and owe him an apology?! However, ThoughtTaken produced and will continue to produce content on his platforms slamming Sills, Zak and myself while earning over $10,000+ and I've lost subscribers and revenue, Sills has lost business but WE owe him an apology. Makes sense....
@650ib everything you've said is true & I won't argue. Except for the fact that the dealership gave you (a non employee) someone else's property to test out without consent. That is wrong & that's what the apology should be for as its the right thing to do & the ends dont always justify the means. Everything else since, you're right.
@@jbfletch4018 I totally see your point. Thank you for commenting. I wish he would have called or stopped by Sills and expressed his feelings about this. Pam, Zak and I would have apologized at that point.
It's not cool to ride someone's bike without permission. If someone road your shit while it was at the shop without your permission or knowledge, you'd be pissed too.
No I wouldn't.... I don't care that much about motorcycles, they're not family members
@@650ib bet let me ride ur shit then
@@USJFKSWGAno reply I see lol
@@ajwolf488 my reply was deleted
@@USJFKSWGA This was filmed 8yrs ago. Perfect stranger got to ride my H2. Sadly, when you type 'let me ride ur shit then'... not likely to happen.
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I don’t think you’re in the wrong and I don’t think thought taken is in the wrong. This all most likely could have been avoided if the dealership called and said something along the lines of “hey can we have 650 ride your bike to get a second opinion to be sure the issue is resolved”
You're 💯 correct and he would have said hell yeah..... But then he would have made the video anyway. Lol
@@650ib yeah most likely. Content creators will be content creators and drama gets clicks.
@@CorBor69true who wouldn’t boast about this guy riding his bike he even said much respect but him getting defensive and not seeing his pov is crazy had this happened this would’ve been a whole new story
i get why he would be mad because you took his bike but as he said its not you he trusts you and wouldn't mind you taking his bike to check it out as he said your a really experienced rider but the dealer still should've asked him before letting you ride it since i wouldn't personally like someone taking my bike without asking
Personally i think he should have talked to you 1 on 1 like a man should. Said his concerns & moved on.
This Drama made me realize how much i think he’s bad for the bike community..
This is not the only drama he's caused. And most of us on Instagram already think Matthew is horrible for the community. And he's being enabled and having his pockets filled... Even a BookTok girl refused to remain in his life.
If you look at the guys content he didn't say a negative comment about IB at all his wrath was at the dealer IB is the one who made it personal.
@@USJFKSWGA I didn't make it personal. Do you realize he didn't have to 'say' anything about me in his video for his toxic followers to come to my previously released video which was unrelated to this and leave horrible comments and death threats?! Yes, death threats for riding a person's motorcycle, this is where we're at in society. What kind of world is this were that's acceptable? So, I stood my ground and replied to a few of them and now I'm the bad guy? Are you insane? He knew what he was doing when creating that horrible content and posting it on all of his platforms. He knew his audience would come here and attack me and for what, for trying to resolve his bike issues?!
He is not mad because you rode his bike. He even said in the video he has nothing against you or any complaints towards you. He was mad about the fact that he brought his bike to the dealership to fix it, and they let someone who is not part of the mechanics staff ride it.
With all the respect to you, it's extremely unprofessional for the dealership to do such a thing no matter who you are and how knowledgeable you are; you are still not part of the staff; they have no business asking or using you to diagnose the issue.
They were ONLY trying to help. They don't deserve the HATE they're receiving and LOSS business ❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌
@@650ib
At very least the dealership should have notified the owner and asked for consent to use a third-party person to help them diagnose the issue.
Even with good intentions, the dealership's actions were unprofessional. In my opinion, trying to damage control by discrediting this individual and his valid criticism towards the dealership just harms the dealership's cause even more.
@@Fearless154 Did you watch this video? I mentioned that he's actually 'not mad' at all. He STILL wants/expects Zak to fix other (self caused) issues with his bike. He did this solely for views and money.
YES!!!!!! THISSSS respectfully a grown ass man living much longer not getting his pov specially when he was respectful yet you came with your attacks is what threw all of us off
If you don’t find this right that’s your pov totally valid but not validating his pov is disrespectful af you keep contradicting yourself in this video and the comments being thrown around with your assumptions on him both you and the dealer are wrong!!!!!!
@@marinvenet0 what attacks did I do? Did I mention in the video that he's actually NOT MAD? He think's its funny how he got everyone fired up at the same time earning over $10,000 and counting from this? He doesn't care that Sills Motor Sales lost and will lose future business over this. I've lost alot of subscribers and revenue and he's the only one earning over this. Is that funny?
If 650ib rode my bike I would give two shits about it. Now if it was somebody like Maxwrist I would feel some type of way lol.
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Cause maxi gets high for sure .
@@_ayo_jp_ I would be happy if 650ib rode my bike! That’s like dreams lowkey!
@@808Affliction anytime!
He gave the dealership permission to ride his bike. Unless you're a dealership employee, absolutely uncool as they'd 100% try to weasel out of covering it if God forbid you crashed.
Naw i disagree IB I would be upset if a non-employee took my bike for a test ride especially if not ran by me first. If it's not a certified motorcycle mechanic, how can I take your feedback that seriously for my bike being fixed. Also, insurance wise god forbid something happened would my bike be covered if an accident happened?
I see your point. I have insurance and cash to cover any damages and to replace his bike with a 2024 S 1000 RR if something would have happened to it while I was test riding it.
Not that it's morally wrong or right or anything; but from a purely business perspective; when you, brotha 650iB, are able to not lift a single forceful finger and psychologically have people create video content on YOU, I would say that this is like creating a mental 'rent free' environment whereas YOU are living inside of the heads of people, who are willing to give your channel FREE advertising, while, at the same time, YOU are living inside of their heads 'RENT FREE'....lol...lol....If that's not a display of intellectual power(regardless if people view it negatively or positively), then nothing is...haha..On the other hand, 9 out of 10 young people, who are between the ages of 8 and 25 years of age, are not and were not raised correctly by their parents(especially when the parents give authority to Jerry Springer and Tik Tok), have ZERO 'social tact', no respect for positive authority figures, no class, big mouthes to speak with while nothing's coming out of them, limited life experiences other than what they view on tik tok, and everything in between. Brotha iB, keep making that money, keep running a clean channel; because at the end of the day nobody can stop you from success. "Their" view of YOU won't influence your financial success, youtube success or any other success. Believe me, I know through real world experience....By the way congratulations on going from 414K subscribers to 417K subscribers; and YES I'm a subscriber. Success is the best revenge(not that you need to take any..haha)
Thanks so much for the awesome, positive comment here Bro! You're always a class act! You described the situation perfectly!
Eh I feel like he coulda handled this differently if he was actually mad about it. It does feel like engagement farming imo. S/N I see those exquisite lines in the grass.
Thank you!
Children…. If I was having a consistent issue with my bike, I would want as much help as I could possibly get. Especially if it came from someone who’s had as many of these bikes as you have.
Agreed and thanks!
I watched the video. The dude is whiny to be that pissed. It just shows his immaturity. Hopefully, he will sell his bike to buy another Ducati or a Japanese bike.
Dealer is in the wrong, this shouldn't even be discussed. You NEVER let anyone ride someone elses property, without permission.
If 650ib rides my bike before me .i would take it as a honor!
Thank you, the honor would be mine
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The best!
Humm.... let me preface this comment that I am not extending ANY hate whatsoever but maybe some clarity and perspective. I'm not a 13 year old boy but I do follow him. I'm a 60 year old Harley girl. I am small and Harleys are big and heavy. So I have followed a lot of sport bikers because I have been thinking that a lighter smaller bike would be something I might try for my first bike. I have not been able to afford a bike and a car until maybe next year. So I have been following a lot of sport bikers over the last few years. Let's analyze this. Initially he wasn't even mad at you. But the disrespect and deceit from the dealership started to sink in. He deserved the courtesy TO BE ASKED FOR HIS PERMISSION from them and or you. The liability that this put him at is an issue. If anything would have happened he could have been sued. He would be the first to be sued because the bike is insured under his name. Yea I know, you would never wreck or hurt anyone. That's exactly what over a dozen people I know who have died, crashed and/or killed people on motorcycles and cars thought. My ex mechanic paralyzed a 16 year old girl from the neck and he couldn't believe why they were suing him.😮 The disrespect, the liability and the deceit are all major issues in this situation. For future reference always get permission from the owner. Unless you're getting paid to consult mechanical problems for them the dealership is in no place to ask you to hop somebody else's bike. It's not what the dealership thought of your it's what Mr. Woods thought of you that matters. His bike his permission. Were you ever going to tell him? He has a right to be upset with everyone involved. His bike his permission. Come on now. Let's say if all the male bikers here went through the same except it was a woman who hopped on their bike it would be the end of creation. Come on you can't just take somebody's bike out without their knowledge. We all know this.
Thanks for your comment. In Ohio, he would not be liable AT ALL if I crashed, damaged or killed people while I was test riding his bike. He's offered to let me ride his bike on other occasions. We're both Social Media Influencer for Rahal Ducati Cleveland and have ridden their bikes. If my bike was at Ducati Cleveland and he wanted to ride it... Guess what, nobody would have to call me for permission and I'd almost feel like they're wasting my time if they did. Also, in 'real life' he's laughing about this and all of the attention he's getting as well as the $10,000+ he's earned for the content related to this incident on all platforms.
Really so ...limits on liability mean nothing in Ohio. I don't think those limits are zero. I've been in a court case to determine fault and liability in a bodily injury against the government. And yes we awarded a government worker a settlement. Definitely the owner can be sued even in Ohio. If you were both ok with it that's all good. But he clearly voiced he was upset about not being asked. Of course he made money from posting. These social media platforms NEED people to make content to monetize or they make less money themselves. It's a symbiotic relationship. Without monetization the talent won't show up in the numbers they need. Social media moguls make millions and billions of dollars. They depend on their top earners. They definitely should pay content creators more. No shame in the money game. Why should Mark Zuckerberg make billions off of other people's content and not pay. Social media is a form of entertainment and educational material. It's like any other form of entertainment. Would you write a book or act in a movie and just tell the publisher and producers "Nah you keep all the profits. It's my work but I don't deserve my piece of the pie.". Most people don't realize this. Monetization on these platforms is meager and should be elevated. It's the same concept of any other job. Social media is a job. Would you work at McD's for free? Hell no. People aren't thinking right when it comes to getting paid on social media. It is a billion dollar industry. Virtue signalling "Oh I don't make money on my channel" is useless. People trying to wear that like a badge.😂😂 Platforms realize that creators allowed to monetize in some way is good for their business model. They just want you to accept minimum wage standards while they keep most of the money. Cut the stigma on monetization. There's a lot would be creators with so much potential but can't do it full time because they are working other jobs. That is a shame.
Just my thoughts. I'll leave with yours. Again no hate.
@@kimberlyquintanilla5493 I agree with you, If I would have crashed, hurt or killed someone while riding his bike, there's law firms and lawyers out there that would try to sue everyone involved for money. It's a simple risk assessment we made while riding his bike, what are the chances of any of that happening while I rode his bike up and down the freshly paved roadway? I have no issue with content creaters getting paid but when they slam other businesses in the process and make those businesses lose revenue, subscribers and reputational standing, that's obviously not good.
I’d let 650 ride my S1k anyday buddy just looking for clout
Thanks Bro!
i wouldnt let rossi ride my bike with out me knowing
Id sue the dealer. Shame on them
They're a great, family owned dealership that doesn't deserve to be sued
I will point out that which no one has spoken to. Ib is a Brand Ambassador at this point for BMW. BMW even acknowledges this by GIVING Ib an M1000XR to ride and promote . He's not some guy stopping by. He' is an experienced rider of BMW's and there was NO Ill intent. I think the intent was to figure out and problem and solve it. It's not like he went joy riding and trashed his bike. This person Mathew knows Ib and is exploiting the situation for personal benefit. Trashing another RUclipsr for views is childish. What if Ib found a real problem? He didn't. At the end of the day the question is simple and easy .WHO BENEFITS. This Mathew guy is shitting on people that tried to help and have taken the wind out of his sails with regards to his mechanical issue. In doing so on his social media he's doing it for views not to solve a problem. He gets paid for views. This is a community and WE all come and gather because of our love of bikes and life-style they create. At the end of the day that bus left and its time to move on and check your drama at the door . Word to the wise.... I am almost certain no one will work on this guys bike moving forward.
Well said Bro! Thank you 🦾🦾🦾
If 650ib gets to ride your bike and give his opinion....... You should be honored 🙂 I said it before, and I'll say it again....... 650ib spews class!! Been with you for years my brother
Thank you so much Bro! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Hey 650 if you rode my bike I only ask one thing....... That you autograph the tank as well........ lol...... There's plenty of jealousy going around 650, now you know who they are.
Haha. I'd autograph it for sure Bro!
He's been a problem for a while. And his followers are extremely toxic. Especially since he started turning into a shirtless biker 🙄 the Instagram biker community are sick of him. And he's toxic tail of followers are doing a lot of damage to the community's reputation.
Great comment Sir 💯🦾
This new generation is the bully generation. You make good content, for me, it would be an honour.
Thank you Bro!
@@650ib keep making your content! I've been watching since 2011 I believe. I support what you are doing 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@TheForgivenNinjahe’s not gonna stop making content just for this 💀
Let’s be honest here if this was a random guy riding his bike that had zero credibility whatsoever I would definitely be upset about it but your talking about one of the biggest RUclipsr in the motorcycle space and I believe started the whole having multiple bikes thing nobody was buying the h2 s1000rr and multiple bikes before let alone the best almost every brand had to offer I could be wrong but I also haven’t heard of him crashing like many other big RUclipsrs dudes a legend I believe the guy is using this to make a profit to make up for the loss in price the dealer offered on a trade in for his bike he’s like 10k in the hole on it from his video about trying to trade it in for another
Thanks Bro. I totally agree with your entire statement 🦾🦾🦾
I almost commented that the dealership was wrong BUT if I look at it from my honest personal perspective… when I leave my bike at a shop, I’m trusting them to do “whatever is reasonable.” Letting an experienced rider they obviously trust is reasonable if you open your mind. Ask yourself, would you care if it was Mark Marquez instead of ib? I doubt it. He says it’s the principle but a moto gp rider is no more an employee of Sill’s either. I think the customer have to be ok with the decision of the dealership. Last, if the said test rider was caught hot dogging on the customers bike, I’d strongly understand the complaint. It’s a trust and integrity issue here. With all that said, the customer has the right to question why a non employee is out riding his bike. But come on man, it’s ib!!! 😃👏👏👏
😂😂😂 I agree with you fully and if thoughTaken was actually mad, I would apologize but he's not. He thinks this is funny and an awesome way to make 💸💸💸 but it's not. He's ruined alot of business relationships.
People realize in the car world that if you drop your car off, sometimes they get a 3rd party to assist with tuning and dynoing your car? They wont even tell you if you dont ask. Id trust anyone who has extensive knowledge to get my shit right.
Yessir
Listen i don’t care for thoughttaken but its amazing how you try and act so high and mighty while acting like a child you were 100% in the wrong and the dealership was too you dont work for the dealer if someone who quite frankly is a random person which you are your youtuber thats all you are so your a random person went out on my bike while it was getting worked on i would absolutely not be happy and would have the same reaction and it’s astounding how you talk about the situation like hes immature for being upset ab it
I love how you can call me names (example: act like a child) but when I fire back, I'm a child. lol. I'm not a 'random' person. ThoughtTaken and I have know eachother for over 3yrs, we have eachohters cell numbers and are both Influencers for Rahal Ducati Cleveland. We've worked together before and I've offered him my bikes to ride. Like HE said, he's not mad that I (the non-random person) rode his bike... he claimed to be 'mad' that Sills let me ride his bike without calling him. In real life, he came to Sills to collect his bike and was very HAPPY with Zak's efforts and made a future appointment for other work. Less name calling and more reading please (apologies if that's a childish remark).
I believe that he’s right for being slightly upset for having someone else rode his bike there still expensive bikes BUT we are talking about 650ib once I find out who it was to me i believe it would be kinda dope but he is a bit but hurt
Exactly
Rest your mind my friend. By no means was you in the wrong by any way . And to be very honest , I feel horrible for master Zack . I totally appreciate the effort he took to totally satisfy a customer. We live in a very strange time and people react and become very sensitive when others think outside the box. Much respect to you and Zack and I would have been honored to the fullest . If I ever actually win a giveaway I would love to speak on this to the community as a whole. All respect my friend.
Thanks Bro! Yeah, Zak and Sills doesn't deserve this treatment because of TT's horrible content.
Sorry to say it, I followed you for a very long time but your response makes me want to unfollow!
Goodbye
So let me get this straight he’s mad that someone who’s handled bikes 2x faster and has owned more bmw bikes than anyone else and a bike collection of over 100k he’d rather some kid from the dealership take the bike out with little to no experience out and test it when he has someone who knows bmw bikes from the back of his hand and does over 20k with of upgrades and gives them away. With that being said if anything were to happen to his bike he would have been taken care of by 650 with a new bike and full of upgrades!
Exactly
I think Zach should’ve at least reached out to thought, none of this is on you. You simply rode his bike to make sure it was running like it should have
Zak would have reached out to him but he'd been working on the bike all day and just wanted to know if it was fixed or not. Simple mistake.
Meh still not cool or right to ride the bike without permission/knowledge before hand, + you are not mechanic/part of shop staff… so insurances wouldn’t cover nvm it is what it is
I have an insurance policy that covers me for any vehicle I operate. Alot of Moto Journalist have this policy. There is no reason at all to be upset with this situation.
@@650ib I am from the other side of the world Europe where generally the will exploit everything in order not to pay, it’s good you had everything covered but still other person property an no knowledge is a no-no, I understand the good intention but dam it a 2 minute call and there would be no drama 🎭 (after all as you said no harm was done but internet bad mouthing from viewers) I hope it doesn’t affect you as I really enjoy your content.
i think a little phone call would’ve been best it’s not a huge deal but hey call i want to test ride your bike to trouble shoot your problem ok cool and move on. and i do feel it’s kinda been blown out of proportion. i would’ve made some jokes about it and move on
IB did what he’s supposed to do,He didn’t storm into the dealership and took the bike .its The dealer that gave IB the bike.he didn’t have to acknowledge or ask for permission from anyone.The boy is still bitching and seeking attention,he should be honored IB ride his bike…
Bro idk y u guys messing wit my boi like this but the mechanic is the ones who asked so get off his d*** this guy is the most respecte able biker so chill the f out
Ok I’m gonna say it.. Your S1000rr is completely unreal! The carbon subframe 🤯 Utter perfection.
Wow, thanks!
You can ride my ‘24 S1000RR. Just fill it up before you bring it back 😅
Will do and it will be premium fuel 🦾🦾🦾
Ib your still my go to ...its a shame that some RUclipsrs will do anything for a like really . Me personally would be honored if you ride my bike. Thr world has gone way to damn soft .....
thanks bro!
I hear you on that note. I watched his video about you and the garage. He still young, he will find out the hard way. Have a great day.
Who is that guy
The way he behaves there's not much there to be taken .
@650 is that jacket leather? If so, what size are you wearing? Looking to get a bmw jacket
Hey, the jacket is full leather and really beautiful! It's size 58 and Pam from Sills can order and ship it to you 216.749.1363
Not cool
I see both sides. I’ve been a supporter since forever. Don’t let this shake what you’ve built. Everyone knows your skills on a bike both on the streets and track. I do understand sills side wanting an outside neutral party. With that being said I see his side too as my machine is like my female and don’t want others riding her. lol. A simple call would have solved the issue and that’s what I think the bottom line the original owner was trying to make. iB you are the most generous person with your machines but unfortunately others don’t have your same heart and generous nature. Again don’t let this make you loose any sleep. Not the end of the world and your name will never be tarnished. 😉god speed brother. Hope to see you at the track one day.
Thanks Bro. I'm looking forward to more track days in 2025.
@@650ib You did Yamaha racing school at NYST with a very close and good friend of mine. That and pitrace are my favorite tracks in the east coast. Let me know when you hit nyst or pit would love to rip some turns with you.
@@ShaunFigueiredo-t3w Yessir, will do!
I personally don't get why this is such a big deal id be comfortable with an super experienced rider testing my dike at the dealer ship sometimes the actual techs don't have time to ride it themselves it makes no different weather a tech or a trusted dealer partner rode it as long as it comes back in perfect condition
I agree with you
ITs a big deal because now it shows that HE is the only one that can find an issue with his bike....so now he cant continue to make content slamming Sills...its not about getting the bike fixed...its about creating content that earns him income. The bike has been paid for twice now just from all the negative content he has created with it.
Hi, Zach you did a good job again goodies 2023 BMW M 1000 RR motorcycle!
agreed!
I met you at Ducati Detroit when my Monster was getting a service, and you really know your stuff. Seems like the dealership could have let him know, but the fact that you're getting hate over this is crazy. I watched a few of his videos and it's not surprising who's watching the videos. Bought a V4RS after your recent videos, cause that opened my eyes to getting into a Multistrada, but need to find a second comfy sport bike still. Keep up the awesome videos. If you have a bike rec for a comfy sport bike with wind protection, let me know!
Thanks so much Patrick! I'd suggest the BMW M 1000 XR since you already have the V4 RS. They are very different bikes and the MXR is a BLAST to ride! You'll probably have to wait for the 2025 MXR but it's worth it!
@@650ib Thanks, Ib! I'll give it a test ride. Was hoping Ducati would release a Supersport V2 or something with more hp this year, but time will tell. Ride safe!
Hi..where did you get those blue fairings screws? Thanks
I got them from www.motomillion.com discount code 650ib. Proti blue titanium bolts.
Here is the short of it did he give you permission himself that you could ride his bike if the answer is no then you should have told the dealership no I can't take this bike out on a test ride simple as that the dealer should not have offered it to you in the first place and whoever did needs to be fired you should not touch other peoples things without there explicit permission.
You're probably right and he shouldn't have produced content about this which negatively effects my business and Sills.
@@650ib but honestly is that not your fault for riding it without his permission. But really I don't think either of you audiences overlap much and at the end of the day I think you talk to him work it out apologize to him and it will be fine as long as he makes another video explaining that your all good if you can get to a point where your good
You gonna do any reviews on the 2025 Ducati V4?
I ordered one 🦾
no matter what your thoughts are ib is an actual pro so his opinion in these matters would be valid and im sorry but the fact they asked him to ride it to make sure they had the problem fixed should be alll good
I thought so...
@@650ib i agree with you and love the content my friend, im glad your mature and respectful person theres not many left and you are an awesome individual keep up the good work
Ohlins has to be my next mod to my M. So awesome!
You'll love it! Get it from www.motomillion.com discount code 650ib
Cool, thanks for the explanation
Glad it was helpful!
I watch both you guys and see both sides but i can see where just out of respect asking the owner first. Just because i don't care much about someone riding my stuff because it is just stuff to me i know some people really care about it with theirs due to different reasons and still have to respect that. Hopefully you guys can put it behind you and move on
A month ago that clown was hating on the S1K and ready to sell it. Now he’s pissed off and cares so much about his S1K. He’s not pissed off. He can care less. Ib isn’t just a “regular guy”. Let’s be honest. I’d trust Ib over a random employee riding my bike. Keep up the good content Ib!
Thanks Bro! I appreciate your compliment and response 🦾🦾🦾
From what I’m taking in, it’s not 650ib’s fault, it lies with the dealership. If I dropped my bike off and the Duc dealer had anyone but a member of the staff test it, I’d be chapped. Even if the dealer had Casey Stoner himself test my bike, unless I approved it that decision by the dealer would not sit well with me. Dealerships should carry what’s called Garage Keepers coverage. That coverage only covers the dealership. While 650ib may carry extensive coverage, if I’m leaving my bike at the dealer, I am left with the understanding that only dealership team members will be operating my bike. Dealer is in the wrong.
He only made that video bc he knew it would get traction and views bc of who you are!
Don't touch ToughtsTaken with a 10 foot pole. That kid is a narcissist.
I personally would have 0 problems with you riding my bike, but I would like to know beforehand.
But at the end of the day, jeez who cares.
Ohhh shit you were the driver, that's different, it felt like it was unknown riding the bike....but what if something happened on your test ride...really shouldn't have let non insured employee, cause are you able to diagnose it? My view should have not been able to take it out
Could go both ways, without context yeah it’s wrong, but it is 650 ib. Does that make it right? No, but Obviously the guy is covered fully for any financial loss. The dealership made a calculated decision. It wasn’t anyone “random”. It was someone with close tie with the dealership who at the same time would put his own name on the line if something were to happen and didn’t make it right. Is thought taken gonna take his business elsewhere? Is all this a setup? Will they do a collab now in the future for more views? It’s probably even more petty for viewers to be up in arms over something or someone else’s life outside our control. If this is real drama I’m getting a sense it’s because he was not involved with making a collab video to start and feels like his ego wasn’t stroked. The dealership wasn’t promoting the incident but relied on ib to help solve a problem. Could be lessons learned on all sides, creators and viewers alike.
As I've grown older (26) I can understand his perspective on being mad but I've definitely learned a little better of when and when not to push an issue, or even asking myself if its a real issue at all And uncle 650 taking a spin isnt a issue. It used to be linked to my ego, "whats mine is mine!" but these things, although theyre my lifeline i know theyre just objects and the friendships you make along the way and the fun times you have are the real substance.
In my opinion Mr ib. If all intentions are well and is to diagnose an issue. A person with your knowledge and as long as you been vlogging and dealing with bikes. I would be honored sir. But in this unperfect world. And this ignorant generation what can we expect. We are all bikers , bikers help eachother.
Why didn't U-tube block the vulgar remarks.... or do they bot block only for certain categories..... like political views, coz god forbid I comment on something political and without vulgarity but just my view and it will not allow me to post ??
With the Experience that 650ib has I would be thankfull that he would ride my Bike to solve the problem, but as he says for the other Guy its just content
At the end of the day, this is between ib, the dealer, and the other guy who owns the bike. Crazy to me how people who aren't even involved spread so much negativity and have the time to come to the comments to do just that. Ib keep up the good content, brotha.
Honestly I don’t see the difference between a very experienced rider testing my bike or the techs at the dealer, either way it’s being ridden by a “stranger” and if you wrecked the bike the dealer would still cover it I’m sure
Dont even know who he is, but 650ib got more miles on s1000rrs than these kids have on any bike your a decent guy iB dont let them knock you down.
i dont think either of you are in the wrong the dealership is the problem they shouldve told him someone took his bike to test ride it but it was all done without malicious intent
650ib can ride any of my bikes because if anything happens while he's on it, he's buying me a new bike. 😅
How was thought takens bike though?
where is the CBR RR-R SP ?
Hi... I gave it way a while back
@@650ib oh i thought you had one on order with honda i remember you saying
@@skelskell I did but they refused to send the bike to Sills Motor Sales because they're not a Honda only motorcycle shop. I refuse to purchase a Honda from anywhere else.
meh. youre making yourself look bad for a non issue you should have just been like meh my bad bro and kept doing you thing bc you are doing exactly what you accuse him of at least that’s how it comes across
Making myself look bad for explaining what happened? I've received over 100 comments from viewers DEMANDING to know 'my side' of the story. Most of those comments have been HATE. I had a sponsorship video scheduled for release today but knew it would be filled with NEGATIVE comments about THIS situation so I had to push it back. I've lost over 100 subscribers since he released his videos about this. I shouldn't have to say 'my bad' for trying to help resolve his motorcycle issues. Should he say 'my bad' for sending his followers here with negative comments, my loss of subscribers and revenue?
“I’m experienced, so I can do whatever I want” basically
I think you missed the part about I DIDN'T WANT TO RIDE HIS BIKE......
@@650ibmost these kids aren’t watching your video.. they are solely here to talk bad about you
@650ib if you didn't want to ride his bike then why talk smack about the guy. You said he's a drama queen seeking attention when he clearly stated he's not mad at you he's mad at the dealership, which is warranted
@@BestEverZach he knew his followers would go harass him.. when you have that much influence small decisions like calling him out publicly isn’t always the best
@zxwave yea but when he clearly stated it wasn't 650ib's fault, it's just people being nasty for no reason
I on the other hand don’t give a damn who rides my bike as long as it’s not an azz whole and they needed to fix my bike. People treat material things like if something happens to it they will never see another in life. So many sensitive males out here even kids. If he wasn’t mad about it why get your followers all up in a roar about it. It’s content to be made everyday you wake up. The masses is something else, you all that anal ( pause) about material things, the all mighty will take it from you!!!!
Well said.
Oh hes telling everyone to not buy a bmws1000 rr
And he is saying Zac is a shit mechanic and Sills is a shit dealership and has also logged a number of complaints with BMW corporate on teh dealership....there is SO MUCH MORE to the story....
@@redrider0151 I'm sure there is,glad I'm not involved, drama
Wait... He called Zak a 💩 mechanic?????? I'm getting mad now 👹👹👹👹
@@redrider0151 he hasn’t called him a shit mechanic. Where are you pulling that shit from?
@@redrider0151 he hasn’t called him a shit mechanic. Where are you pulling that shit from?
I feel like the Dealer is at fault for not informing the Owner, nothing wrong in itself that you rode the Bike, just not cool from the dealer to not inform the owner imo.
Honest mistake and they don't deserve to lose business over it.
You were helping a dealership confirm an issue was fixed with a customers bike. There was nothing malicious with it as far as you and the dealer were concerned. Any adult with a modicum of common sense would see this and understand what was going on.
Angry children throwing a temper tantrum... You got better things to do like make more content that adults can watch and appreciate. Keep up the good work!
I agree with you and thank you VERY MUCH for the compliment!
You addressing that situation, you just helped him get probably 3000 more followers just so they could find out what he was talking about.
It's all good. I'm here to HELP!
I wouldn't worry about guy ,Ive learned alot from you ive been riding for a long time,Thanks 650ib just keep being you
I appreciate that! Thanks so much Bro!
Weren't you and zack just trying to help him fix his bike right,You had good intentions, He has thrown sills under the bus,His content is lame,no racing videos or smackdowns,good
Yessir!
I saw dude video he even said he wasnt mad at 650 for riding tha bike he mad at the dealership for not tellin him what they did n tha fact he found out from his followers that tha situation went down like that which he has every right bottom line if u doin business wit someone n u have they property communication go whole way in good business
He can say he's not mad at me in a video to make himself look good but when his followers come to my channel with hate and death threats, his words are meaningless. I've lost subscribers and revenue because people think I screwed him. I was only trying to help. Meanwhile he's earned over $10,000 from this content bashing me and Sills Motor Sales.
@650ib I see it from both sides n totally agree u souldnt get that kind of response from people over riding a bike dats crazy n some things just need to be left off tha internet especially when we r adults
Ib you're the best BMW consultant. I don't understand what everyone is mad at, makes zero sense.
It's sooo weird to me too.
nah ib you did right the dealership should apologizer they didntt really do anything wrong but they did in his mind and hes allowed to be upset if he wants even tho he shouldnt be since it was literally to help fix it he seems like a cool guy but he bashes bmw non stop so maybe thats just part of it
Lesson learned from this.
@@650ib in the end your an awesome mature person and dont let his followers get ya down you dis the right thing and so did the mechanic you are a pro and do .ore for the bmw bike culture than most, your a good dude and in the end thats all that matters , love the content have for many years hope to meet ya someday and shake your hand
@@codeg8884 I'd love to meet you too! Maybe MotoGP America in Austin, TX 2025? The return of Marc Marquez on a FACTORY bike!
@@650ib that will be a day for the historys and if i can make it i will for sure be there and hope to see you, loves the new bike also been a fan for awhile now, what do you think of the 2025 lineup anything your excited for?
Oouf! What a bike! With all the carbon, what's the wet weight now?
As for RUclips beef... just do your thing, you know what some 'creators' do for likes.
Thanks Bro... It weighs 429lbs now
Wait, did you ride his bike or his girl?? It's just a bike. Break it, buy another one. (Biggie )
😂😂😂😂😂😂
First world problem! When TT grows up and gets some REAL issues to be upset about he may look back with regret at how he's overly reacted.
We can only hope
These kids are so sensitive, f em! IB keeping doing you bro! Always got your back Fast Boy! 💪🏽🤙🏽
Thanks Bro!
@@650ib welcome bro! Been with you since the beginning 🫡💪🏽
Idk why these kids trippin, you had how many S1000rr ? You are the perfect candidate to test ride his bike.