⏱Timestamps! 0:00 Intro 2:46 Feeling/Felt Ready to Lose It 5:35 Imagine Being God Cucked 7:07 Dubious Consent 10:48 Cringe From The God Chick 15:50 Consent is Easy! JUST ASK 19:26 Being in Clubs 21:32 “C0nsent Means Marriage” 24:59 As3xual 29:22 Vaush’s Typical Friday Night 32:53 Soul F***ing 34:23 “Meaningful” S3x 42:43 Fetishizing The V Card 49:44 The Cycle of Victim Blaming 55:19 Wrapping Up
"the left wants you to sign consent sheets" Okay but. I literally was forced to sign an abstinence contract in my highschool freshman health class. it was so gross and invasive, and even at the time I knew it was wrong, but I needed the points.
Right. It's all about control. Gotta be abstinent so they can rape your virgin body. Sorry for the vulgarity. I hate these people. Because asking someone before and during sex that they want it, is insane...
Awww I’m sorry. I never signed one, but being coerced for any reason feels so gross. You have my deep sympathies. Did they do that fucking oreo metaphor with you all too?
She's obviously internalized a literal abusive brainwashing line as a defense mechanism because it was psychologically beaten into her head. Never forget - the ones responsible for this are people like conservative priests and Republicans. People with power who will aggressively push this kind of grift to keep people in a perpetual state of easily controllable existential dread. This is exactly that one scenario where abused prisoners often just sit there and don't leave even if the door is unlocked.
And then later, when that same girl was talking about how hard it was when her mom victim blamed her, Muslim girl was like “AWWW BBY! Come here and give me a hug 🤗✨💞” After you basically told me God got me raped to improve my character arc? Bitch.
@@FelisImpurrator I hope she finds a good dude to marry, because she is ripe for being a victim of an abusive spouse. Even though I don't agree with most of what she said, I don't want her abused or taken advantage of by someone.
Literally, like I believe that everything happens for a reason, but you don't say that out loud like that, there's a time and a place. It's just the fact that, that was her first reaction. It felt dismissive of the girls story
@@ghostedits1365 There is no reason a child should be born with incurable cancer or some shit, come on. Its a nice sentiment but thats about it. People are usually better off just facing the truth that life is harsh.
God, conservative religion ruining overwise supportive and outgoing people makes me so sad. You could tell the girl in yellow truly wants to live her life in the best possible way. It's just a shame that she was lied to about how to do it.
I don’t see how to have sympathy for this person. If someone that close to me physically said I was raped for a reason, her head would be off for a reason. For someone who preaches the personal choice of not having sex, it’s disgusting how easily she steamrolled right over that for someone else. She can wake up any day. Instead of making the other girl gaslight herself in real time.
I've been saying for ages that like, hardcore conservatism is just fundamentally abusive. I mean... If there's a venn diagram with "psychological violence" and "conservative social prescriptions" and "progressive social prescriptions"... Fuck, man. The progressive part has some in the first circle for sure, but the conservative one basically just has this tiny crescent of outer edge that doesn't overlap, because they base almost everything on fear and punishment. It's like a horrible Overton window of trauma.
@@sunfeatherX3 *That's how indoctrination works.* She almost certainly literally doesn't know any better. It's easy for you to judge because you're not in that position, but like... Come on, dude. Vaush is at least as autistic as me (and he'll say so himself any day) and he and I can both tell she's obviously not like, doing the intentionally malicious bad faith Conservative thing. She's a victim of internalized conservative abuse and that line of reasoning is her defense mechanism. I mean, I guess this anger is probably yours, but it's no less irrational in this specific scenario. Now, if this were some deliberately abusive "you're all going to hell" type, sure, fuck 'em. But this isn't.
As a Muslim myself, many Muslims believe tampons can break your virginity, but it was far fetched for me so I decided to try it. Around a year or so ago, I tried on a tampon for the first time but it didn’t go in. Long story short I had to get surgery because my hymen was so thick and my period blood was coming out of a literal dot and it wasn’t normal. Instead of getting the simple surgery and moving on in peace, I was traumatized by my dad’s insistence that I should wait till I get married to get the surgery despite the risks I might face for waiting a few more years. He argued with doctors telling them it was not necessary and told me that no man would want to stay with me because it would “feel” like I’ve had sex before. He seemed more afraid of “tarnishing the family name” over my own health and autonomy. I was 19 then so I was able to get the surgery without needing his consent, and I’ve been doing fine since then. Moral of the story I guess is that virginity is and always has been a tool for men to control women, so of course, it’s gonna end up creating a toxic culture around it. Just let people do whatever they want, and don’t control what others want to do.
I am so incredibly sorry that happened to you. Such an example of how much virginity culture is based on misogyny and the idea that women only exist to be controlled objects for men's pleasure. Good for you for taking agency, but you should never have had to go through all that.
I'm Muslim and tampons aren't haram and don't make you lose your "virginity". I also find that the problem with ultra strict and delusional Muslims, especially those who grew up in Muslim majority countries, is that it's less about God and more about what the family next door would say if they found out. The downfall to our tight knit community (ummah) is that we can be so judgmental towards each other if we aren't perfect. It's so sad, inshallah we can move past that in the future.
It’s genuinely so baffling to me that some people think being asexual is weird or wrong. Like, a straight man doesn’t feel sexual attraction to other men, why is it so hard to imagine a person who feels that way about everyone? Idk maybe it’s because my best friend is ace but it’s always felt pretty straightforward and reasonable to me.
I’ve identified as ace for a few months now and i’m still coming to terms with the idea that there’s nothing wrong or weird about it. I haven’t dared tell anyone outside of a very select few people. Not because they’ll reject me or anything, but just because i’m vaguely scared they’ll laugh at me? I hate this narrative and i wish people would speak about it more. I don’t want to feel like my sexuality is a disability.
Its because the idea of sexual attraction as so ingrained in our society as a cornerstone or pillar for someones life. Plus most people won't meet an asexual person out in the wild.
@@cortanathelawless1848 yes, I was 5 or 6 when it happened and my parents thought I would not remember, but it has stuck with me. Luckily I told my parents what happened because I knew it was wrong. I thought it was a dream until I asked my mom and she told me it was real
Also, (I'm a professional video editor) Imma be honest with you guys - his editors aren't having to do much editing for these videos. But I love seeing the concern for them!
I had a friend from back in uni/college that had been raped multiple times by an ex-partner and they still considered themself a virgin so it was quite refreshing to hear Vaush's argument in the same respect.
I know that this comment is two years old, but I just wanted to say that I wholeheartedly think that if all your previous sexual encounters have been non-consensual, you are still a virgin if you want to call yourself that/if you believe in virginity. My sister was raped at the age of 7 and I find it so cruel that anyone would say that a 7 year old isn't a virgin anymore because a horrible crime was committed against them. Only consensual sex counts in my eyes.
I think this is becoming a more prevalent idea. I mean imagine if someone was a CSA victim, no reasonable person would say THAT was losing your virginity.
10:19 honestly, I've always considered this for myself and still call myself a virgin, but hearing it from vaush really made me happy ngl. like I hear so many men say "well if monke takes your banana you don't have a banana anymore." but hearing (the apex alpha male) Vaush agree with it and actually provide an example that makes sense and is comparable makes me very very happy :)
I had a friend from back in uni/college that also considered themself a virgin as well. I agree with you, it was quite refreshing to hear Vaush's argument to validate this idea.
@@Vault-Born oh it truly truly dose. And like it's kinda nice he dosent fully seem to know that cause it just feels so genuine. Like he's not trying to get good boy points he truly ment it and it makes it even more amazing and refreshing tbh
It might help if the term "lose your virginity" didn't tacitly say that you're losing something. There has to be a more neutral language for that. I haven't had sex and don't plan to anytime in the near future because I don't feel ready PERSONALLY. I've never seen anybody who bases it on a moral or religious value do anything other than purity testing and being judgemental. Also, I'm pretty sure in Christianity that type of harsh judgement is a sin. Edit: I'm at the "asexual" portion, and that can give way to one example of what I said before. Conservatives are fine with asexuals from what I've seen because it means that they aren't "sex hungry" and will save themselves presumably until marriage. But I also guarantee that some of those people would turn against them if they didn't want a lot of sex after marriage, especially if they're a woman. I've heard people argue in all sincerity that it's a womans fault if her husband cheats on or breaks up with her if they aren't trying hard enough to be sexy for them. Even if they're having sex, if they aren't also being sexy constantly AROUND THE HOUSE then that's their fault.
I think it's weird to consider a peepis in a hoohah (or any other combination) so significant that it fundamentally changes something about you as a person. At most, to me, it's more like.. using a plate rather than chewing a piece of gum or whatever. You'd have to really do some damage to a plate for it to be altered irreparably.
I have an asexual friend who said they would have sex with their boyfriend despite having no real sex drive because they knew he loved it and they didn't hate it. Edit:27:37 yeah this is exactly what I was describing
@@lilpaz4060 cause you can be asexual while not also being aromantic. Not so say it doesn't seem weird in my own head either but hey, some people are like that so it is what it is.
My asexual ex was like this. Like her body would respond and everything (though she herself didn’t draw any actual pleasure from it outside of the pleasure of bringing me pleasure)... other shit went wrong and she turned out to be incredibly emotionally abusive, but I’m positive that’s because she is an asshole, and nothing to do with her being ace
They grant advantages because the governments assume you'll be making babies thus the next generations to work themselves to dust. Then again marriage was always about finding a partner to mainly financially support eachother. I always view marriage and it's benefits very cynically because it feels like coercing people into marriages when nowadays it's hard to even find time to date.
Not that it will come up at this point in my life, but I can't imagine not sleeping with whoever I was planning to marry. Dated a girl for a few weeks in HS who was against orgasms for herself, (saving them for marriage too lol) but happy to get me off. Nope. Creepy and nope.
I've realized in the past I've pressured someone into intimacy, and knowing what I know now I'm pretty disgusted with myself. Its never good to be that person, but its good to learn from it if you ever were
I was on the receiving end of that kind of dynamic, and about 4 years later I reached out to him and he profusely apologized without me even saying anything. He really showed me that he understood what he did wrong and actively changed. I cannot tell you how much that meant to me. It was wrong what he did, but I also recognize that sometimes you do shit because you actually genuinely don’t realize that what you’re doing is wrong and the grey area of coercion makes the dynamic dicey. So what I want to you say to you is: thank you for owning what you did and not beating around the bush. Even more so, thank you for changing your behavior. It takes a really stand up person to own their shit and change into a better person.
my mom did kind of the same thing with me when i was assaulted, i came home crying and she was like "its not that bad" "why did you go to hang out with him" etc. i have no idea why parents do that its prolly something to do with how they are raised obvi
Ugh the Muslim girl was so self righteous, she like ran to the table every time to lecture everyone. I guarantee you this is a defining characteristic for her and she brings it up when no one else is talking about it.
The worst thing too is that she’s probably going to see all the criticism in the comments and brush it off by saying “I’m getting hate just because I’m Muslim.” Well, yes and no. It’s because you’re a bitch about it.
@@humblesentiments1553 I know you are supporting me but to be clear just because she is a stanch Muslim doesn't mean she would be supportive of shariah so that's not a point of hypocrisy necessarily.
Any religious person who stands up for one law while clearly ignoring other religious rules is a hypocrite. However that’s like all religious people I haven’t met or seen one that actually follows all the rules. Just another reason religion is stupid
"Well, everything happens for a reason" Fuck, I hate religion. Just brainrots good people into thinking and saying the most heinous shit. That single phrase put me back in 2012, when I was obsessed with TJ Kirk and reading The God Delusion.
I have the feeling that religious people are so indoctrinated into accepting whatever happens to them (using "whatever, it happened for a reason" as a coping mechanism) that when they use their in-group methods for dealing with negativity they don't even realize it may sound condescending to others
@@phanatic215 nah, her personality outside religion is terrible too. You can see the smug condescending attitude and her just being there to push her own views, not interested in hearing the views of others. I don't understand how anyone can watch this video and think that she has any kind of good intent.
@@wehavebiscuits word. I watched it on their RUclips, and she does look down her nose at those people that lost their virginity, especially the girl that went through coerced sex and a sexual assault. It seems that these type of religious people only have fire and brimstone to rely on for their beliefs. My neighbor is a pastor but he's not like this woman in the video. He lives a virtuous life and doesn't look down on people that may be sinners(which he definitely could do with me, because I like my drinking, drugs, sex)
Well that's how you grow the second channel, gotta put some of the popular shit there. I think its also cause its a far less serious segment. Politically and otherwise.
That Muslim girl explaining how it's just her values... Except it's not her values, it's someone else's values that have been imposed on her and instilled in her to the point she can't separate her identity from them. Religion is so toxic.
This generally reminds me of how we had a youth pastor teach our sex Ed class in public schools. Because he couldn’t say not to have sex until marriage because of Jesus, he used really outdated studies to tell us that if we had sex it was pretty much guaranteed we were either gonna have a kid or get an sti. Then almost everyone in my grad year who had access to birth control and condoms never had an issue with casual sex their entire time in high school.
Awful. I remember when the right took that shit over, during the Bush years. Abstinence-only sex ed and promise rings. I was already graduated, but had friends seeing that crap. Teen pregnancies went up.
You should've lisent to him. Studies show that the more sexual partners one has before marriage the less happy you'll be in that marriage and divorce will soon follow.
@@Moh5Itachi1 just don't marry then? marriage is lame I'll stick to my girlfriend and girlfriend and girlfriend and girlfriend and boyfriend and fuckbuddy
I definitely understand having that fear. But I’m sure that it can be avoided if the couple in question has open, honest, and direct communication about things beforehand. Whether they’re waiting until marriage, or just waiting for the right time, communication is key.
It takes a lot of experience to realize how good sex can be based on the partner. It takes experience to realize how bad it can be too. Tying sex to ideas of purity is just wrong on every level.
When I reported a sexual assault, the cop asked me to tell the complete, very long story, twice over, several weeks apart to check for consistency. In between my two retellings, I learned new information by someone who had witnessed part of the assault. In the first telling, I mentioned that I ran past some acquaintances of mine, but in the second telling, one of these acquaintances had told me that when I went into the public bathroom, they didn’t see me leave, so when my pursuer showed up, they told him where I went, and he followed me into the girl’s bathroom. Thank god I’d already left the bathroom when no one was watching, or the whole thing could have become a full-blown rape. Problem is, all the cop heard was an inconsistency. I was a teenager, and when I realized he didn’t believe me anymore, I dropped the issue, because I felt embarrassed. My feelings at the time were, “well, he thinks I lied. This is over now.” I wish he had just asked me why my story had changed. I could have told him that I’d since spoken to someone who was present while I was being chased.
@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 Thanks. I worry from time to time that because I didn’t finish pursuing it, and the guy got away with it, he may have done it again to someone else. I feel responsible for that. I did speak to the cop once again afterwards, and his attitude was, “the guy’s parents got him a lawyer, it’s your word against his, so it’s over now. Drop it.” Imagine if he was on trial one day for a sexual assault and I tried to come forward with my own experience (like with the Brett Kavanaugh hearings). People would come for me hard, asking why I didn’t do something about it sooner.
Cops don't understand that as a psychological response to trauma people block out details and hyperfix on other details. The current systems are rigged against victims and it's sick
That’s not even right in the first place. Because even if your story was hypothetically inconsistent, that’s normal after a traumatic experience. Witness testimony can be very unreliable. Even when you can prove that a group of people were at a traumatic event, say a school shooting or attack, they can give contradictory testimony due to being panicked. On top of that people’s memory of an event after two weeks normally gets fuzzy and your brain fills in gaps. What they’re doing is literally just punishing and blaming victims for having normal psychology.
I was spoiled on the “everything happens for a reason” thing by reading comments and it still hit like a fucking train. Taking me back to my reddit atheist teenager days, boutta start talking about religion being the worst thing humans ever invented
That consent part really got to me. I taught my daughter at a young age about consent based around hugs and kisses, letting her know that if she gets unwanted attention she can say no, even to family. One time my mother-in-law tried to get a hug without asking and my daughter laid down the law and I've never been prouder. I feel like instilling that early on will lead to a life where she addresses intimacy on her own terms and I won't have to worry about her, because I was a boy once and boys are fucking stupid.
I know idiots think that that's supposed to make people feel better, but it actually makes me want to strangle them. People's ability to prevent themselves from just screeching like a chimpanzee and jumping on them when I've heard that said to me always astounds me, I could barely hold myself back from shouting at some creep who tried to "console" me with that nastiness.
As an ex muslim (from the balkans 🇧🇦) ppl here usually go w the "she deserved it she dressed imodestly bs" christians in this area are the fucking same i dont know why they hate each other
On consent.. get flirty with it. Tease them. If they’re shy make them say exactly what they wanna do with you. Like... If you think it can’t be hot you lack imagination.
As a Norse Pagan, the VERY CONSERVATIVE sounding Muslim woman just makes my blood boil. I cannot stress enough that most semi-religious or many religious people think that marital rape is rape. That take from her just made me get a metaphorical high fever in terms of how bad it was. Also, look up OceanKeltoi because he gives good views on what the vast majority of polytheists believe in terms of progressive ideas or at least share some good views.
_- Comment was auto-deleted, replacing some words to try and make it stick._ I think she was talking about heavily evangelical, conservative religion. I don't agree with her on anything she said, but I literally live in a city with what essentially amounts to a pro marital assault cult, and the ignorance on those matters has only spread. You'd also be surprised at the amount of _secular_ people who don't think marital assault is assault.
What about a game show where there’s like 9 male non virgins and 1 virgin and they have to all figure out who the virgin is but PLOT TWIST they’re all virgins
Wasn't there a gameshow like that but they were told all the other guys were gay and they were the secret straight guy even though they were all straight.
I’m ace. Me and my friend were gonna hook up and I started crying. But she was so understanding and she didn’t care at all. I’m so thankful it was with someone I was already comfortable with
I grew up in a smallish conservative town and I usually have either purple or pink pixie cut hair. Lol I get a lot of compliments though. So I guess we’re not THAT conservative. If anyone doesn’t approve they don’t say it to my face. 🤷♀️
@@ThePsychoRenegade and thereby they make the concepts they're discussing useless as a topic for a video, because if you get someone who says "war bad" and someone else says "war good tho" and then it arrives at "we agree to disagree!" have you actually moved the discourse at all or have you just generated clicks.
Yeah I can't believe there wasn't more pushback against the conservative girl. Also, people who attend Jubilee are usually pretty stuck up and overly politically correct
@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 I really think it's more about presenting the various viewpoints then it is about discourse, and it still only sort of accomplishes that.
Agree. Every Jubilee panel I've seen has seemed suspiciously semi-scripted, like someone has to hit this point, this point, this point. No confidence here that their panels are genuine.
Lots of ace people are in polyamarous relationships. They realize "hey i can't fill this need, so my partner needs someone else to fill that need and be happy". Polyamory prooves its basedness yet again.
👏 there's this unhealthy expectation in western culture that your romantic partner should be able to meet all needs for you, from being your best friend to your therapist to the perfect match in bed, when no one can be all of that for anyone. Polyamory is pog
That was one of the main issues with Pascal’s wager I learned about in a philosophy class. Accepting a religion like that makes you devalue humans because everyone “deserves to be tortured” because of original sin. Accepting something like that could also cause you to miss out on life
@@mattsullins3818 not to mention the bias within the wager, as it already kind of assumes you’ve got the right deity in mind and just ignores the fact that there are thousands of gods within human mythology and that quite a few of them are rather jealous.
Shortly after becoming an atheist, I was still afraid of being wrong and going to hell. When I learned about Pascal's Wager, I instantly lost my fear of hell. It's such a lame argument. 1) there are tons of gods and hells to be wrong about. It presents a false dichotomy of "my God, or no God". In reality it is "one of these infinite number of gods or no god. Good luck picking the right one!" They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong. 2) it assumes that God would accept you pretending to believe in it just to hedge your bets and avoid hell.
The Muslim girl seems awful braggy about it, like either it's not just for her religion and its for ego or she's lying about being a virgin and this is her way of making up for that insecurity. Those are the two types of religious people I've seen act like this about sex.
I mean, the mythology and stories can be really complicated, meaningful, thematic and cool! But the moral systems they try to construct are just poopoo.
For most Abrahamic religions, god is both a mortally incomprehensible being beyond time and existence itself, but also a tempermental, insecure baby that will rescind its limitless love and affection if you eat the wrong kind of food or wear a skirt that's too short.
That's the point of religion people believe that Quran, bible and others are the word of God so they are obligated to follow it Religion is not just spiritual it's a life style
@@alliandrablack7751 Ikr lmao. God is both an omnipotent and omniscient being, the Creator of All and the Bringer of the End. BUUUUUT His plans are ruined when boys kiss, when people have sex before marriage, and when women have abortions.
TW: SA When I filed my police report for my assault I had no idea what I was getting into. I was crying in the ER at like 3 AM and there were three male police officers around me basically interrogating me about what happened when it was hours before. It was honestly horrible and really traumatic. Fortunately, the detective who actually worked on my case was really great and he supported me a lot throughout the process. I was really worried because I'm a trans woman and that never came up or was an issue with the police. However, it required a lot of work on my end. Multiple meetings, having a wire-tapped phone call (where the perpetrator basically admitted that it happened), and more. Then my case got thrown out for "lack of evidence..." Our system is so fucked with these cases.
I had so many of my moms bad ideas about sex that when i had sex i had to spend a significant amount of time thinking on how it went down to realize that i did want to have sex and wasn't just doing it "for the positive attention" from the guy.
Maybe I'm biased as a demisexual person, but I've always seen value in establishing relationships before getting into sexual relationships, because knowing what each other likes overall makes sex better, as do repeated sessions, compared to one night stands with different people. Also reduces spread of disease. That isn't a mean to say that people can't have casual sex if they want to, it should be a free world. But overall, marriage is still an arbitrary concept, so where's the value in saving yourself till then?
Right saving herself for some dude that will cheat on her because they aren't sexually compatible and her religion forcing her to stay with him and live through martial rape while he is drunk.... yeah i think people should do as these people, but yikes. Being forced one way seems ridiculous.
I'm Demi too, but it's good to have sex with a partner before marrying them, irregardless. If you've never had sex you probably don't know what you like with a partner. What if your partner has a really high sex drive and you don't. Then you're married and one partner wants to have sex and you don't, and then your relationship may suffer because of your sexual incompatibility.
well think about it this way. if you play a game with someone you know well, especially one that's cooperative, it'll probably be better than playing with a rando, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun or valuable with the rando. you might even make a new friend that way :)
Because they and the media lack the imagination to make it hot. Asking for consent could be at first embarrassing, but through joking or teasing in a flirty way asking can be hot af and establish a good mood too. Or you know just get good at dirty talks and stuff, although for that it's better to know the person well beforehand.
@@justalostlocal it doesn't need to be hot. Hotness is secondary in importance to consent. Consent is vital, even if it ruins the potential for sex. That's what we should be drilling into people's heads. When you integrate things into "play" people take it or leave it. "Play" includes experimenting with boundaries and comfort, joking or teasing, etc, but it also implies creating a space where the amount of permissiveness to someone else's actions are kind of amorphous and in the process of being determined, so it's best to get consent WAY before anything starts. When getting consent is part of the conditions for even beginning play then all is good. Hotness is the afterthought. Eros doesn't trump nomos no matter the circumstances.
I kinda assumed it's common sense to talk about consent and what you and the other party likes before sex, so my previous comment is exactly about how to communicate clear consent before the play/sex begins. But yeah I agree that consent should be put above anything else. If a person is so easily turned off by the other being considerate even if in an awkward manner, in my opinion that person isn't even worth having such intimate experience with.
As a card-carrying member of the Virgin Lips Club, I can attest to the fact that more conservative language always exists to facilitate purity testing.
I hate talking to religious people because of how incapable they are of saying "that's awful, that shouldn't have happened to you, but you're get through it because you're strong" they'll just tell me about how it happens for a reason, god will help me through it, and was it really that bad? we need to be more compassionate to people yes even your abusers no I'm not joking. I'm so tired.
😂😂 my bf works at least that. He sometimes comes home to a joint and me naked and that usually works 😂 sorry i feel because this is my life and i adore how hard he works
@@chembabe8264 yeah that will do it for sure, keep it up! I get home to a joint and the homeless man living in the ally in front of my house who's sometimes naked. Don't feel bad for your bf anyway, it's not your fault
I read the title as "Should You Save Yourself FROM Marriage?" ... Then I laughed because I read it wrong... then I cried because my mis-read hits closer to home than the video's actual title. Point is, the ONLY things marriage is good for are prenuptials, alimony, split assets, divorce lawyers, court cases, split visitation rights and unending amounts of misery.
*Nico being worried his parents will see the video is just another example of an Asian child fearing what their Asian parents will say. *Rahan's socially conservative upbringing is likely a combination of growing up Muslim, female, and Asian (South Asian in her case). [Also, very likely she has only been judged for being a virgin by people that are neither Asian, SWANA, nor Muslims and praised for being a virgin by Asians and Muslims.] *It is very telling that the female panelists have a lot more to say about how toxic the concept or virginity and over-valuing virginity are than the male panelists. It just further shows how gendered the concept of virginity is and how much more toxic it is toward women and girls than toward men and boys. This wasn't the worst Jubilee Middle Ground panel, but it wasn't the best either. At least that panel didn't have a bunch of trolls trying to constantly overpower and sealion the reasonable people.
tbh i've always taken asexual to be like homo or hetero, a focus on **who** you are attracted to. when i was 21 and still wondering "when do people realize they are straight/gay?" was a p big sign. many either fall into heteroormative roles or like me, was assumed gay until proven straight. everyone assumed i was just hardcore in the closet since i never "admitted" to being gay
@@buddingdufus that’s what happens when you analyze such a diverse population as the human species. When no two people are the same, black and white can’t cut it
Ive been assaulted, and it is really hard to like fight people on it. Can't speak for everyone but it for sure is a common thing to like self blame, or to feel like maybe you could have prevented it from happening. So on some level, you already feel like "it happened for a reason," no matter how stupid that sounds to you, or whether you know already that thats not the case. So when people say it out loud, its like you just kinda shrug and say I guess 🤷🏼♀️
I have a LOT of experience with staunchly religious people, and I'm gonna go ahead and say that I see right through the religious girl. The ones who lay it on that thickly, but only verbally, not visually, are only doing so to appease their elders. They have something to hide. Might sound ridiculous to some people, but I can see it from a mile away. She probably has very socially progressive views in reality, and doesn't abide by the less defensible traditions (eg. clothing), but some rules are just non-negotiable in the family's eyes. I would be very surprised if she was even truly a virgin, and that's probably for the best. For her sake, I'd rather her be a liar than a hollowed out victim of brainwashing. She seems empathetic and desperate to reach a little bit farther than she has been allowed.
I read recently that the biological purpose of the hymen is to protect against infections from fecal matter, especially as babies. At that point it's harder and becomes more elastic with age and with puberty when the inner organs grow infection becomes less likely.
Interesting! I had never thought about a biological purpose for the hymen, but that makes sense. The concept of "virginity" being dependent on it is incredibly arbitrary, too-- it can break at any time just by doing ordinary things. I knew girls who wouldn't use tampons because they were afraid it would break their hymens and that would mean they weren't virgins anymore! So wild.
In Canada you're taught about consent in sex ed at grade 9 and ITS MANDATORY! US, ITS NOT THAT HARD! Its very simple, it takes 15 minutes to explain! Its so important
yeah, i saw a post on reddit about some dude whose friend was a real lazy lover. Like no foreplay or anything, he'd just lube his wife up, stick it in until he climaxes, and then go to sleep, without a care in the world about whether or not she orgasmed. Unsurprisingly, the woman was unsatisfied with her sex life. You definitely don't want to end up married to someone like that.
GaaaAAAAaaaaAAAhhhhHhhhHhhhh! That Muslim girl’s attitude on losing virginity reminded me so much of what I was raised to aspire to, as someone born in the Mormon/LDS faith. And yes- just as Vaush says- many, many people of the LDS/Mormon church have a particularly unhealthy and close-minded view on sex or sexuality in general. There’s so much shame surrounding it. I mean I spent my entire teenage-hood in and out of my “bishop’s office” (the “bishop” is the appointed head of a particular LDS “ward” for a given area) because I didn’t “regard my temple (aka: body) as sacred” and so had to attend these awkward one-on-one meetings every Sunday after church... and not only that but I was also labeled “not worthy” during those stints of sexual exploration, and as such I wasn’t allowed to partake of the Sacrament (bread and water) on Sundays at church like the rest of my “worthy” peers. Now this may not seem like it would be THAT big of a deal, but ya see... during those “Sacrament meetings,” certain characters made a point to carefully observe the youth in particular within the congregation, and each and every time I shamefully had to pass the trays of bread and water on to the next person, skipping myself, I swear the state of my worthiness might as well have been put on display during every goddamn Sunday service. It would have made no difference. I’m sure that being the daughter of two parents who were always appointed to highly regarded positions within the church, certainly didn’t help my case though. Church leaders expected and anticipated a much different outcome from me. 😬 Despite my upbringing, and despite my shame-filled teenage years though! -I’m relieved to say that, about a decade ago, I separated myself fully from the toxicity that was the Mormon culture for me. My family all still dutifully practices, but we’re actually all on great terms, and there’s even a mutual respect for each other’s beliefs or lack of. I feel especially grateful for this, too, as I know how rare it is in ye olde Mormonville for there not to be contention within a family of both believers and nonbeliever(s). BEST of all, though... about a year or two after my excommunication from the Mormon church, I had built up the courage to do some serious self-searching in regards to my sexuality. This resulted in me putting several puzzle pieces together and ultimately coming out as a gay woman. ☺️ And I gotta say... the amount of peace and contentment that accompanied this revelation, was... awesome. 😍😍 Thank you for attending my Ted talk. 😆
I was raised to save myself and believed I'd go to hell if I didn't. I also believed I'd go to hell if I hung out with other teenagers doing horrible things like skateboarding and listening to music. I'm now 31, single, and unable to say hi to people. Yay for being pure? Kill me. (Granted I didn't go to church, my relationship with god was in my head exclusively, I'm sure if I cared enough to go to church I would have been a popular cult member with marriageable candidates, but church just sounded sooooo boring.)
Consent can be cute or/and hot! "Is it...would it be okay if I kissed you?" "Are you sure you want this, we don't have to, hun." "Please, Alejandro, take me! It's all I ever want!" "I cannot! For I even lay a finger upon your skin, I would ravage you." "Oh, please, ravage me! I am aching for you!" "Then come, my love; to the bed!" It's that simple. If it's not a verbal yes in a sane and safe state of mind, then it is sexual assault.
fwi : Demisexuals are in the asexual spectrum. it goes from Asexual (repulsed) to hypersexual. I guess you know that... but just a little FYI for those who don't ;) from your neighbor ace!!
@@alicedeligny9240 eh, depends on the ace. Regardless, someone lacking interest in sex and openly communicating that to their partner is quite different from two 19 year old Christians getting married after four months so they can fuck Edit: I reread the original comment and realized that the second part of my comment isn't relevant to what you said. Sorry bout that
⏱Timestamps!
0:00 Intro
2:46 Feeling/Felt Ready to Lose It
5:35 Imagine Being God Cucked
7:07 Dubious Consent
10:48 Cringe From The God Chick
15:50 Consent is Easy! JUST ASK
19:26 Being in Clubs
21:32 “C0nsent Means Marriage”
24:59 As3xual
29:22 Vaush’s Typical Friday Night
32:53 Soul F***ing
34:23 “Meaningful” S3x
42:43 Fetishizing The V Card
49:44 The Cycle of Victim Blaming
55:19 Wrapping Up
you forgot the "can pre-cum knock someone up" segment, at 37:18
Can any discord mods help me? I was unjustly banned for saying "whats up family"
@@KaleidoscopicVideos420 I don't run the discord.
I'm saving myself from marriage
Ok
👏💯💯
Sigma mindset.
B-but how else will you justify spending a year's wage on a Congolese blood diamond?
@Ooki Cooki the problem is not the dissolution of the family structure, it's the dissolution and destruction of community
"the left wants you to sign consent sheets" Okay but. I literally was forced to sign an abstinence contract in my highschool freshman health class. it was so gross and invasive, and even at the time I knew it was wrong, but I needed the points.
Right. It's all about control. Gotta be abstinent so they can rape your virgin body. Sorry for the vulgarity. I hate these people. Because asking someone before and during sex that they want it, is insane...
Awww I’m sorry. I never signed one, but being coerced for any reason feels so gross. You have my deep sympathies. Did they do that fucking oreo metaphor with you all too?
That is really fucked up. Sorry you had to deal with that bs.
@@mycenaeangal9312 There’s an Oreo metaphor? 😢
@@mycenaeangal9312 no, whats the oreo metaphor?
Virgin Chad vs Chad Virgin
Lnao
She really said “Everything happens for a reason.” In response to a girls sexual coercion story wtf I can’t even
She's obviously internalized a literal abusive brainwashing line as a defense mechanism because it was psychologically beaten into her head.
Never forget - the ones responsible for this are people like conservative priests and Republicans. People with power who will aggressively push this kind of grift to keep people in a perpetual state of easily controllable existential dread. This is exactly that one scenario where abused prisoners often just sit there and don't leave even if the door is unlocked.
And then later, when that same girl was talking about how hard it was when her mom victim blamed her, Muslim girl was like “AWWW BBY! Come here and give me a hug 🤗✨💞”
After you basically told me God got me raped to improve my character arc? Bitch.
@@madeline5493 lmao i would impolitely decline
even if youre someone who believes that when someone tells you something like that just keep it to yourself
@@FelisImpurrator I hope she finds a good dude to marry, because she is ripe for being a victim of an abusive spouse. Even though I don't agree with most of what she said, I don't want her abused or taken advantage of by someone.
What's a virginity? They don't teach us what a virginity is on Coconut Island.
You don’t need to worry about your virginity on coconut island if you want the coconuts 😏
Does committing oral sex count as loosing virginity though? 🤔
@@gudboah4688 yes. Allah forbids it
@@gudboah4688 no.
Virginity is what happens before you get your first coconuts.
The Muslim girl explaining how she learned that marital rape exists was so depressing
lowkey tho, i hope she researches consent more before she finds a husband and just blindly follows what he says.
@@prehistoricorchid3455 I think she seems to understand it, it’s just sad she learned so late
The funny thing about this is that Norse Pagans had anti-rape laws back in their heyday from what I've heard, probably even marital rape was illegal.
@@eyangamedud3293 What does the first point have to do with anything? I imagine almost all cultures had anti rape laws.
@@eyangamedud3293 Dude, the vikings had sex slaves, by today's standard I would not consider that as being anti-rape.
I’m saving myself for Alden
Hello.
@@Water_Worker RODRICK????
does anyone has aldens number
Alden's number is actually their body count
Alden's body count
“Everything happens for a reason” girl destroyed my faith in humanity
Literally, like I believe that everything happens for a reason, but you don't say that out loud like that, there's a time and a place. It's just the fact that, that was her first reaction. It felt dismissive of the girls story
"lmao bro obviously your bad experiences don't matter because everything happens for a reason smh stop complaining, it's annoying"
If it wasn't reality it would've been an IASIP or Ricky Gervais bit. God. Damn.
Did you see that fucking face she made when the girl tried to push back on that a little? What a disgusting person.
@@ghostedits1365 There is no reason a child should be born with incurable cancer or some shit, come on. Its a nice sentiment but thats about it. People are usually better off just facing the truth that life is harsh.
God, conservative religion ruining overwise supportive and outgoing people makes me so sad. You could tell the girl in yellow truly wants to live her life in the best possible way. It's just a shame that she was lied to about how to do it.
Everytime she smiles it looks like she’s about to burst into tears
I don’t see how to have sympathy for this person. If someone that close to me physically said I was raped for a reason, her head would be off for a reason. For someone who preaches the personal choice of not having sex, it’s disgusting how easily she steamrolled right over that for someone else. She can wake up any day. Instead of making the other girl gaslight herself in real time.
I've been saying for ages that like, hardcore conservatism is just fundamentally abusive. I mean... If there's a venn diagram with "psychological violence" and "conservative social prescriptions" and "progressive social prescriptions"... Fuck, man. The progressive part has some in the first circle for sure, but the conservative one basically just has this tiny crescent of outer edge that doesn't overlap, because they base almost everything on fear and punishment.
It's like a horrible Overton window of trauma.
@@sunfeatherX3 *That's how indoctrination works.* She almost certainly literally doesn't know any better. It's easy for you to judge because you're not in that position, but like...
Come on, dude. Vaush is at least as autistic as me (and he'll say so himself any day) and he and I can both tell she's obviously not like, doing the intentionally malicious bad faith Conservative thing. She's a victim of internalized conservative abuse and that line of reasoning is her defense mechanism. I mean, I guess this anger is probably yours, but it's no less irrational in this specific scenario.
Now, if this were some deliberately abusive "you're all going to hell" type, sure, fuck 'em. But this isn't.
@@sunfeatherX3 The sympathy there is for the brain washing it takes to get there.
As a Muslim myself, many Muslims believe tampons can break your virginity, but it was far fetched for me so I decided to try it. Around a year or so ago, I tried on a tampon for the first time but it didn’t go in. Long story short I had to get surgery because my hymen was so thick and my period blood was coming out of a literal dot and it wasn’t normal. Instead of getting the simple surgery and moving on in peace, I was traumatized by my dad’s insistence that I should wait till I get married to get the surgery despite the risks I might face for waiting a few more years. He argued with doctors telling them it was not necessary and told me that no man would want to stay with me because it would “feel” like I’ve had sex before. He seemed more afraid of “tarnishing the family name” over my own health and autonomy. I was 19 then so I was able to get the surgery without needing his consent, and I’ve been doing fine since then. Moral of the story I guess is that virginity is and always has been a tool for men to control women, so of course, it’s gonna end up creating a toxic culture around it. Just let people do whatever they want, and don’t control what others want to do.
I am so incredibly sorry that happened to you.
Such an example of how much virginity culture is based on misogyny and the idea that women only exist to be controlled objects for men's pleasure.
Good for you for taking agency, but you should never have had to go through all that.
I'm Muslim and tampons aren't haram and don't make you lose your "virginity". I also find that the problem with ultra strict and delusional Muslims, especially those who grew up in Muslim majority countries, is that it's less about God and more about what the family next door would say if they found out. The downfall to our tight knit community (ummah) is that we can be so judgmental towards each other if we aren't perfect. It's so sad, inshallah we can move past that in the future.
What the fuck. I've never heard about the tampon thing before as muslim. I'm so sorry
Glad we had almost all bases covered for the virgins: The ace, The muslim, and The Gigachad
Only thing left is the gamer
@@ronsonsmusings3367 vowsh
The incel
@@awesomethegreatamazing2651 they've got some episodes for themselves
I forgot Ace was for asexual
"I have plenty of political content to release, let me have fun." XD
Quality response lol
I read your comment... AS HE SAID THAT SHIT 😂😂
Perfect
I read this as he was saying it lmaoo
@@Sethnotasithsr I did the same thing lmao
"Everything happens for a re"- *flips table over*
that personally killed me a bit inside
God I’m so angry
Every time my mom says that, I'm just angrily cursing up a storm inside.
It’s genuinely so baffling to me that some people think being asexual is weird or wrong. Like, a straight man doesn’t feel sexual attraction to other men, why is it so hard to imagine a person who feels that way about everyone? Idk maybe it’s because my best friend is ace but it’s always felt pretty straightforward and reasonable to me.
I’ve identified as ace for a few months now and i’m still coming to terms with the idea that there’s nothing wrong or weird about it. I haven’t dared tell anyone outside of a very select few people. Not because they’ll reject me or anything, but just because i’m vaguely scared they’ll laugh at me? I hate this narrative and i wish people would speak about it more. I don’t want to feel like my sexuality is a disability.
@@nienkehuijbens301 I'm proud of you, buddy!
You set out to figure out what goes wrong and if you persist you'll become astonished that anything goes right. _It's very gestalt._
Its because the idea of sexual attraction as so ingrained in our society as a cornerstone or pillar for someones life. Plus most people won't meet an asexual person out in the wild.
I was m*lested by my step brother
what Vaush said about the boxing vs street fights really resonated with me
Same. It helps so much with inner peace. Especially when it happens at a really wrong time.
that was a good analogy stay strong
@@cortanathelawless1848 yes, I was 5 or 6 when it happened and my parents thought I would not remember, but it has stuck with me. Luckily I told my parents what happened because I knew it was wrong. I thought it was a dream until I asked my mom and she told me it was real
@@jlp6864 Thank you hon, I will 💕
Time stamp?
Damn I sure hope Vaush is paying his editors enough. They are pumping out videos like crazy lol
I'm sure he is he makes quite A bit. He's economically progressive so probably. Avush is pumping out content like mad I love it. :)
The editors could go on strike if Vaush doesn’t pay them appropriately but then (Vaush) would just hire some desperate freelance editor.
He's providing them the means of production as payment
Vaush once said as a response to why his channel isn't worker owned that his editors set their own paycheck
Also, (I'm a professional video editor) Imma be honest with you guys - his editors aren't having to do much editing for these videos. But I love seeing the concern for them!
I saw someone in chat say "Plants Vs. Virgins" and it almost killed me because I was laughing so hard lmaooooo
I had a friend from back in uni/college that had been raped multiple times by an ex-partner and they still considered themself a virgin so it was quite refreshing to hear Vaush's argument in the same respect.
I am so incredibly into the idea that rape =/= sex
I know that this comment is two years old, but I just wanted to say that I wholeheartedly think that if all your previous sexual encounters have been non-consensual, you are still a virgin if you want to call yourself that/if you believe in virginity. My sister was raped at the age of 7 and I find it so cruel that anyone would say that a 7 year old isn't a virgin anymore because a horrible crime was committed against them. Only consensual sex counts in my eyes.
@@lauraanderson8785 exactly. I still consider myself a virgin even after bad stuff
I think this is becoming a more prevalent idea. I mean imagine if someone was a CSA victim, no reasonable person would say THAT was losing your virginity.
10:19
honestly, I've always considered this for myself and still call myself a virgin, but hearing it from vaush really made me happy ngl. like I hear so many men say "well if monke takes your banana you don't have a banana anymore." but hearing (the apex alpha male) Vaush agree with it and actually provide an example that makes sense and is comparable makes me very very happy :)
I had a friend from back in uni/college that also considered themself a virgin as well.
I agree with you, it was quite refreshing to hear Vaush's argument to validate this idea.
@@Vault-Born oh it truly truly dose. And like it's kinda nice he dosent fully seem to know that cause it just feels so genuine. Like he's not trying to get good boy points he truly ment it and it makes it even more amazing and refreshing tbh
It might help if the term "lose your virginity" didn't tacitly say that you're losing something. There has to be a more neutral language for that.
I haven't had sex and don't plan to anytime in the near future because I don't feel ready PERSONALLY. I've never seen anybody who bases it on a moral or religious value do anything other than purity testing and being judgemental. Also, I'm pretty sure in Christianity that type of harsh judgement is a sin.
Edit: I'm at the "asexual" portion, and that can give way to one example of what I said before. Conservatives are fine with asexuals from what I've seen because it means that they aren't "sex hungry" and will save themselves presumably until marriage. But I also guarantee that some of those people would turn against them if they didn't want a lot of sex after marriage, especially if they're a woman.
I've heard people argue in all sincerity that it's a womans fault if her husband cheats on or breaks up with her if they aren't trying hard enough to be sexy for them. Even if they're having sex, if they aren't also being sexy constantly AROUND THE HOUSE then that's their fault.
Regarding the first bit, I saw someone say it should be called “your sexual debut” instead of losing virginity and I much prefer it lol
I mean you can also loose your shackles, weight off your shoulders or a burden in general.
@@Alias_Anybody
But shackles are negative. Virginity is neutral.
@@dinodare1605 Shackles can be positive. Very positive
I think it's weird to consider a peepis in a hoohah (or any other combination) so significant that it fundamentally changes something about you as a person. At most, to me, it's more like.. using a plate rather than chewing a piece of gum or whatever. You'd have to really do some damage to a plate for it to be altered irreparably.
I have an asexual friend who said they would have sex with their boyfriend despite having no real sex drive because they knew he loved it and they didn't hate it. Edit:27:37 yeah this is exactly what I was describing
Yeah of course then why be in a relationship?
@@lilpaz4060 cause you can be asexual while not also being aromantic.
Not so say it doesn't seem weird in my own head either but hey, some people are like that so it is what it is.
@@alistairecase3405 Nah just be bi gay or hetro and stop being different.
My asexual ex was like this. Like her body would respond and everything (though she herself didn’t draw any actual pleasure from it outside of the pleasure of bringing me pleasure)...
other shit went wrong and she turned out to be incredibly emotionally abusive, but I’m positive that’s because she is an asshole, and nothing to do with her being ace
@@lilpaz4060 stop being different? What’s wrong with being different?
I read it as saving yourself FROM marriage for a second and I was like jubilee based?
True. Although marriage does grant some really fucking useful legal benefits, to be fair.
They grant advantages because the governments assume you'll be making babies thus the next generations to work themselves to dust. Then again marriage was always about finding a partner to mainly financially support eachother. I always view marriage and it's benefits very cynically because it feels like coercing people into marriages when nowadays it's hard to even find time to date.
Marriage is bad. Human relationships are inferior to the alternatives.
Not that it will come up at this point in my life, but I can't imagine not sleeping with whoever I was planning to marry.
Dated a girl for a few weeks in HS who was against orgasms for herself, (saving them for marriage too lol) but happy to get me off.
Nope. Creepy and nope.
@@christophergreen6595 Human sex isn't as good as tulpa and doll sex. I imagine sexbots will be even better.
I've realized in the past I've pressured someone into intimacy, and knowing what I know now I'm pretty disgusted with myself. Its never good to be that person, but its good to learn from it if you ever were
I was on the receiving end of that kind of dynamic, and about 4 years later I reached out to him and he profusely apologized without me even saying anything. He really showed me that he understood what he did wrong and actively changed. I cannot tell you how much that meant to me. It was wrong what he did, but I also recognize that sometimes you do shit because you actually genuinely don’t realize that what you’re doing is wrong and the grey area of coercion makes the dynamic dicey.
So what I want to you say to you is: thank you for owning what you did and not beating around the bush. Even more so, thank you for changing your behavior. It takes a really stand up person to own their shit and change into a better person.
@@shan8130 thanks for that, really thanks. I hope you meet someone nice whom treats you with all the respect 😁
I have a lot of the same types shame just from being ignorant I try not to cringe but I chill
@@jalengayfield3915 yeah! Be chill 💖
my mom did kind of the same thing with me when i was assaulted, i came home crying and she was like "its not that bad" "why did you go to hang out with him" etc. i have no idea why parents do that its prolly something to do with how they are raised obvi
vaush describes it perfectly
That’s awful I am so sorry
Same w me.
So glad i subscribed to the vaush pit
Sued it will the post of an an article AmericansAmerican and company the the company in to a a complete and make the company and
Vaush knowing how hard color is to maintain was a breath of fresh air.
"I wanna say I'm sorry that happened to you. But everything happens for a reason-"
Me: Bitch what?
Ugh the Muslim girl was so self righteous, she like ran to the table every time to lecture everyone. I guarantee you this is a defining characteristic for her and she brings it up when no one else is talking about it.
The worst thing too is that she’s probably going to see all the criticism in the comments and brush it off by saying “I’m getting hate just because I’m Muslim.”
Well, yes and no. It’s because you’re a bitch about it.
Funny thing is, under shariah, she would be stoned or beaten to death just for dressing "provocatively".
@@humblesentiments1553 I know you are supporting me but to be clear just because she is a stanch Muslim doesn't mean she would be supportive of shariah so that's not a point of hypocrisy necessarily.
Any religious person who stands up for one law while clearly ignoring other religious rules is a hypocrite. However that’s like all religious people I haven’t met or seen one that actually follows all the rules. Just another reason religion is stupid
"Well, everything happens for a reason"
Fuck, I hate religion. Just brainrots good people into thinking and saying the most heinous shit. That single phrase put me back in 2012, when I was obsessed with TJ Kirk and reading The God Delusion.
I have the feeling that religious people are so indoctrinated into accepting whatever happens to them (using "whatever, it happened for a reason" as a coping mechanism) that when they use their in-group methods for dealing with negativity they don't even realize it may sound condescending to others
Vaush brought up a good point. She's so devout but she doesn't cover her hair.
This isn't on her, it's on the indoctrination she had implanted in her.
@@phanatic215 nah, her personality outside religion is terrible too. You can see the smug condescending attitude and her just being there to push her own views, not interested in hearing the views of others. I don't understand how anyone can watch this video and think that she has any kind of good intent.
@@wehavebiscuits word. I watched it on their RUclips, and she does look down her nose at those people that lost their virginity, especially the girl that went through coerced sex and a sexual assault.
It seems that these type of religious people only have fire and brimstone to rely on for their beliefs. My neighbor is a pastor but he's not like this woman in the video. He lives a virtuous life and doesn't look down on people that may be sinners(which he definitely could do with me, because I like my drinking, drugs, sex)
Something about Jubilee being a 2nd channel thing just feels wrong, these are usually the best types of videos
Well that's how you grow the second channel, gotta put some of the popular shit there.
I think its also cause its a far less serious segment. Politically and otherwise.
What's their main channel?
I kinda cringe at jubilee videos and I don't really know why...
@@bobbobby475 OP means that the Jubilee video is being put on Vaush's second channel instead of the main one.
@@marvelousTUD Thanks I understand now
That Muslim girl explaining how it's just her values... Except it's not her values, it's someone else's values that have been imposed on her and instilled in her to the point she can't separate her identity from them. Religion is so toxic.
Shane Dawson believed in saving himself until Marriage when he filmed THOSE videos, fun fact
I am fortunate enough to have not a clue what you’re talking about.
@@Kazoo_man64 vaush made a video about it, it’s the most viewed video on his main channel
I see you on a lot of other videos I watch and I just want you to know that you're cool and have excellent interests
This generally reminds me of how we had a youth pastor teach our sex Ed class in public schools. Because he couldn’t say not to have sex until marriage because of Jesus, he used really outdated studies to tell us that if we had sex it was pretty much guaranteed we were either gonna have a kid or get an sti. Then almost everyone in my grad year who had access to birth control and condoms never had an issue with casual sex their entire time in high school.
Awful.
I remember when the right took that shit over, during the Bush years. Abstinence-only sex ed and promise rings. I was already graduated, but had friends seeing that crap.
Teen pregnancies went up.
You should've lisent to him. Studies show that the more sexual partners one has before marriage the less happy you'll be in that marriage and divorce will soon follow.
@@Moh5Itachi1 just don't marry then? marriage is lame I'll stick to my girlfriend and girlfriend and girlfriend and girlfriend and boyfriend and fuckbuddy
@@Moh5Itachi1 My source is that I made it the fuck up
@Moh5Itachi1
From what I've seen the studies showed that lots of underage sex is bad. Duh. Consent matters
Yeah, marrying someone and finding out yr not compatible sexually would be the worst Buyer's Remorse, ever
I definitely understand having that fear. But I’m sure that it can be avoided if the couple in question has open, honest, and direct communication about things beforehand. Whether they’re waiting until marriage, or just waiting for the right time, communication is key.
It takes a lot of experience to realize how good sex can be based on the partner. It takes experience to realize how bad it can be too. Tying sex to ideas of purity is just wrong on every level.
That's why you never pre-order at gamestop
When I reported a sexual assault, the cop asked me to tell the complete, very long story, twice over, several weeks apart to check for consistency. In between my two retellings, I learned new information by someone who had witnessed part of the assault. In the first telling, I mentioned that I ran past some acquaintances of mine, but in the second telling, one of these acquaintances had told me that when I went into the public bathroom, they didn’t see me leave, so when my pursuer showed up, they told him where I went, and he followed me into the girl’s bathroom. Thank god I’d already left the bathroom when no one was watching, or the whole thing could have become a full-blown rape.
Problem is, all the cop heard was an inconsistency. I was a teenager, and when I realized he didn’t believe me anymore, I dropped the issue, because I felt embarrassed. My feelings at the time were, “well, he thinks I lied. This is over now.” I wish he had just asked me why my story had changed. I could have told him that I’d since spoken to someone who was present while I was being chased.
I'm so sorry. Pigs shouldn't be left alone with assault victims
@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 Thanks. I worry from time to time that because I didn’t finish pursuing it, and the guy got away with it, he may have done it again to someone else. I feel responsible for that. I did speak to the cop once again afterwards, and his attitude was, “the guy’s parents got him a lawyer, it’s your word against his, so it’s over now. Drop it.” Imagine if he was on trial one day for a sexual assault and I tried to come forward with my own experience (like with the Brett Kavanaugh hearings). People would come for me hard, asking why I didn’t do something about it sooner.
Cops don't understand that as a psychological response to trauma people block out details and hyperfix on other details. The current systems are rigged against victims and it's sick
That’s not even right in the first place. Because even if your story was hypothetically inconsistent, that’s normal after a traumatic experience. Witness testimony can be very unreliable. Even when you can prove that a group of people were at a traumatic event, say a school shooting or attack, they can give contradictory testimony due to being panicked. On top of that people’s memory of an event after two weeks normally gets fuzzy and your brain fills in gaps. What they’re doing is literally just punishing and blaming victims for having normal psychology.
"I got raped"
WELL EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON!
I was spoiled on the “everything happens for a reason” thing by reading comments and it still hit like a fucking train. Taking me back to my reddit atheist teenager days, boutta start talking about religion being the worst thing humans ever invented
I think you mean second worst, because the worst thing invented would be scat porn
@@fotnite_ true, but teenager me did not know about scat porn until after the worst of my reddit atheist days
I mean religion has caused the most deaths. Probably more than scat porn lmao.
Religion is still at the top of my list
@Scott Covert first off, you’re right we all still talk about scat porn all the time. Also, you used a double negative my guy
That consent part really got to me. I taught my daughter at a young age about consent based around hugs and kisses, letting her know that if she gets unwanted attention she can say no, even to family. One time my mother-in-law tried to get a hug without asking and my daughter laid down the law and I've never been prouder. I feel like instilling that early on will lead to a life where she addresses intimacy on her own terms and I won't have to worry about her, because I was a boy once and boys are fucking stupid.
are you a trans mom?
@@gggggg6817 no, I grew to be a slightly less stupid man.
@@TheToxicDreamland still based. im sure she's proud to have you as a father.
@@gggggg6817 I appreciate that.
holy fuck as soon as the muslim girl said “everything happens for a reason” i lost it
I felt it coming. I hate that it still happened.
I know idiots think that that's supposed to make people feel better, but it actually makes me want to strangle them. People's ability to prevent themselves from just screeching like a chimpanzee and jumping on them when I've heard that said to me always astounds me, I could barely hold myself back from shouting at some creep who tried to "console" me with that nastiness.
As an ex muslim (from the balkans 🇧🇦) ppl here usually go w the "she deserved it she dressed imodestly bs" christians in this area are the fucking same i dont know why they hate each other
Saving yourself for marriage?
Nah, I’m on that saving myself FROM marriage, haha wife bad, click book.
On consent.. get flirty with it. Tease them. If they’re shy make them say exactly what they wanna do with you. Like... If you think it can’t be hot you lack imagination.
I know, right? takes practise and learning tho to get the confidence I spose.
I really dont get how its not hot just to say yes tho
Yes tease Them how vaush teased poppy.
You get flirty and then they say that you sexually harassed them
@@THRAKORZOD you sound like a sexual harasser who’s mad about the Me Too movement. :-) don’t sexually harass people.
As a Norse Pagan, the VERY CONSERVATIVE sounding Muslim woman just makes my blood boil. I cannot stress enough that most semi-religious or many religious people think that marital rape is rape. That take from her just made me get a metaphorical high fever in terms of how bad it was. Also, look up OceanKeltoi because he gives good views on what the vast majority of polytheists believe in terms of progressive ideas or at least share some good views.
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I think she was talking about heavily evangelical, conservative religion. I don't agree with her on anything she said, but I literally live in a city with what essentially amounts to a pro marital assault cult, and the ignorance on those matters has only spread.
You'd also be surprised at the amount of _secular_ people who don't think marital assault is assault.
Chad Odin DESTROYS allah with FACTS and LOGIC
Sweet. A Norse pagan who isn't a Nazi. Keep being awesome, friend!
@@karlmarx2291 10/10 comment. Thank you Karl.
@@dyssonpitcher612 No, Thank you, Comrade
IVE GONE TO SCHOOL WITH THE GIRL IN THE YELLOW SUIT FOR FIVE YEARS SHE ACTS LIKE THIS IRL
Please explain more lol
TELL US MORE PLEASE
What about a game show where there’s like 9 male non virgins and 1 virgin and they have to all figure out who the virgin is but PLOT TWIST they’re all virgins
You should email them cause this is genius
It would ens istantly, they would all say they got the virgin out in the first round because they think that if they end it they win
Wasn't there a gameshow like that but they were told all the other guys were gay and they were the secret straight guy even though they were all straight.
@@AH-vm8yo I think that was a post floating around tumblr. Lol I unironically want to see that though.
@@AH-vm8yo wait, now that I think about it, I think there was a show about figuring out who the gay guy was but it’s lost media now. 🤔
As an ace, “STOP TRYING TO FUCK ME AND GIVE ME MY LUNCH BOX” is incredibly iconic
I’m ace. Me and my friend were gonna hook up and I started crying. But she was so understanding and she didn’t care at all. I’m so thankful it was with someone I was already comfortable with
22:26 I mean... I have blue hair and I grew up in a tiny conservative town. So you're not really wrong.
Brethren!!! I've had blue hair for over 2 years now, which, to be honest lines up almost too well with leaving my hometown and coming out
i had blue hair up until like two days ago and I was just about to say I came from a big city, but my hair's green now lmao
I grew up in a smallish conservative town and I usually have either purple or pink pixie cut hair. Lol I get a lot of compliments though. So I guess we’re not THAT conservative.
If anyone doesn’t approve they don’t say it to my face. 🤷♀️
Jubilee is wet garbage but it makes good reactbait
I think they try to get varying views but the people who sign up for these videos aren't the most knowledgeable, well spoken people.
@@ThePsychoRenegade and thereby they make the concepts they're discussing useless as a topic for a video, because if you get someone who says "war bad" and someone else says "war good tho" and then it arrives at "we agree to disagree!" have you actually moved the discourse at all or have you just generated clicks.
Yeah I can't believe there wasn't more pushback against the conservative girl. Also, people who attend Jubilee are usually pretty stuck up and overly politically correct
@@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 I really think it's more about presenting the various viewpoints then it is about discourse, and it still only sort of accomplishes that.
Agree. Every Jubilee panel I've seen has seemed suspiciously semi-scripted, like someone has to hit this point, this point, this point. No confidence here that their panels are genuine.
Lots of ace people are in polyamarous relationships. They realize "hey i can't fill this need, so my partner needs someone else to fill that need and be happy". Polyamory prooves its basedness yet again.
👏 there's this unhealthy expectation in western culture that your romantic partner should be able to meet all needs for you, from being your best friend to your therapist to the perfect match in bed, when no one can be all of that for anyone. Polyamory is pog
Polyamory is awesome.
I'm not personally into it but if it's your thing that's awesome.
I’m not a fan of it, but I’m happy for people who practice it
Polygamy is disgusting
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 why?
this girl is literally a living example of just how incredibly wrong Pascal's Wager is
That was one of the main issues with Pascal’s wager I learned about in a philosophy class. Accepting a religion like that makes you devalue humans because everyone “deserves to be tortured” because of original sin. Accepting something like that could also cause you to miss out on life
@@mattsullins3818 not to mention the bias within the wager, as it already kind of assumes you’ve got the right deity in mind and just ignores the fact that there are thousands of gods within human mythology and that quite a few of them are rather jealous.
Shortly after becoming an atheist, I was still afraid of being wrong and going to hell. When I learned about Pascal's Wager, I instantly lost my fear of hell. It's such a lame argument.
1) there are tons of gods and hells to be wrong about. It presents a false dichotomy of "my God, or no God". In reality it is "one of these infinite number of gods or no god. Good luck picking the right one!" They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong.
2) it assumes that God would accept you pretending to believe in it just to hedge your bets and avoid hell.
The Muslim girl seems awful braggy about it, like either it's not just for her religion and its for ego or she's lying about being a virgin and this is her way of making up for that insecurity.
Those are the two types of religious people I've seen act like this about sex.
“Kinda consensual” is a dangerous game these ladies play.
Religion isn't complicated, it's just dumb 🤷♀️
I mean, the mythology and stories can be really complicated, meaningful, thematic and cool! But the moral systems they try to construct are just poopoo.
Imagine thinking a god cares whether you have sex prior to marriage. It’s so silly.
For most Abrahamic religions, god is both a mortally incomprehensible being beyond time and existence itself, but also a tempermental, insecure baby that will rescind its limitless love and affection if you eat the wrong kind of food or wear a skirt that's too short.
That's the point of religion people believe that Quran, bible and others are the word of God so they are obligated to follow it
Religion is not just spiritual it's a life style
@@alliandrablack7751 Ikr lmao.
God is both an omnipotent and omniscient being, the Creator of All and the Bringer of the End.
BUUUUUT
His plans are ruined when boys kiss, when people have sex before marriage, and when women have abortions.
Virgins v Virgins is every political debate
Vaush calling me out with the comment about blue haired girls in tiny conservative towns (22:30)
I mean.. not wrong though
TW: SA
When I filed my police report for my assault I had no idea what I was getting into. I was crying in the ER at like 3 AM and there were three male police officers around me basically interrogating me about what happened when it was hours before. It was honestly horrible and really traumatic. Fortunately, the detective who actually worked on my case was really great and he supported me a lot throughout the process. I was really worried because I'm a trans woman and that never came up or was an issue with the police. However, it required a lot of work on my end. Multiple meetings, having a wire-tapped phone call (where the perpetrator basically admitted that it happened), and more. Then my case got thrown out for "lack of evidence..." Our system is so fucked with these cases.
What country are you in
I wasn't ready for the amount of rape culture in that one. Oof.
I had so many of my moms bad ideas about sex that when i had sex i had to spend a significant amount of time thinking on how it went down to realize that i did want to have sex and wasn't just doing it "for the positive attention" from the guy.
Maybe I'm biased as a demisexual person, but I've always seen value in establishing relationships before getting into sexual relationships, because knowing what each other likes overall makes sex better, as do repeated sessions, compared to one night stands with different people. Also reduces spread of disease.
That isn't a mean to say that people can't have casual sex if they want to, it should be a free world.
But overall, marriage is still an arbitrary concept, so where's the value in saving yourself till then?
Right saving herself for some dude that will cheat on her because they aren't sexually compatible and her religion forcing her to stay with him and live through martial rape while he is drunk.... yeah i think people should do as these people, but yikes. Being forced one way seems ridiculous.
Jesus
It's basically to build an emotional, mental, and psychological connection with someone
I'm Demi too, but it's good to have sex with a partner before marrying them, irregardless. If you've never had sex you probably don't know what you like with a partner. What if your partner has a really high sex drive and you don't. Then you're married and one partner wants to have sex and you don't, and then your relationship may suffer because of your sexual incompatibility.
well think about it this way. if you play a game with someone you know well, especially one that's cooperative, it'll probably be better than playing with a rando, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun or valuable with the rando. you might even make a new friend that way :)
did Mary save herself for God? then there's your answer.
Watch out for God's unwanted advances.
Did God wait till marriage? 🤔
@@mothh7600 no
16:13
Sadly a lot of people think asking during intimate moments are absolute turnoffs. That's horrendous, nothing wrong with asking.
Because they and the media lack the imagination to make it hot. Asking for consent could be at first embarrassing, but through joking or teasing in a flirty way asking can be hot af and establish a good mood too. Or you know just get good at dirty talks and stuff, although for that it's better to know the person well beforehand.
@@justalostlocal it doesn't need to be hot. Hotness is secondary in importance to consent. Consent is vital, even if it ruins the potential for sex. That's what we should be drilling into people's heads. When you integrate things into "play" people take it or leave it. "Play" includes experimenting with boundaries and comfort, joking or teasing, etc, but it also implies creating a space where the amount of permissiveness to someone else's actions are kind of amorphous and in the process of being determined, so it's best to get consent WAY before anything starts. When getting consent is part of the conditions for even beginning play then all is good. Hotness is the afterthought. Eros doesn't trump nomos no matter the circumstances.
I kinda assumed it's common sense to talk about consent and what you and the other party likes before sex, so my previous comment is exactly about how to communicate clear consent before the play/sex begins. But yeah I agree that consent should be put above anything else. If a person is so easily turned off by the other being considerate even if in an awkward manner, in my opinion that person isn't even worth having such intimate experience with.
Right?? But communication and understanding makes everything better
to me that just smacks of "if I don't give them an opening to say no, I get to assume it's a yes and get what I want". Makes my skin crawl.
ace enby totally feeling the ace person's mood here. :| esp the judged bit
As a card-carrying member of the Virgin Lips Club, I can attest to the fact that more conservative language always exists to facilitate purity testing.
The people fetishizing taking somebody’s virginity are like the people that comment “FIRST”
“Do you want the cookie”
As someone who was abused as a child, the whole “it happened for reason” logic truly irks me, I’m not for it and I think it’s pretty gross
Why is the religious prescriptivist Muslim tempting me with her hair?
I hate talking to religious people because of how incapable they are of saying "that's awful, that shouldn't have happened to you, but you're get through it because you're strong"
they'll just tell me about how it happens for a reason, god will help me through it, and was it really that bad? we need to be more compassionate to people yes even your abusers no I'm not joking.
I'm so tired.
"sex is like boxing" float like a butterfly, stings when I pee
I don't have sex because I work 11-12 hours a day, 6 (and a half) days a week and I'm tired of life, how do you call that?
😂😂 my bf works at least that. He sometimes comes home to a joint and me naked and that usually works 😂 sorry i feel because this is my life and i adore how hard he works
Prolcel
@@chembabe8264 yeah that will do it for sure, keep it up!
I get home to a joint and the homeless man living in the ally in front of my house who's sometimes naked.
Don't feel bad for your bf anyway, it's not your fault
Exhausted.
The industrial revolution and its consequences.
0:10 "Is the idea of virginity outdated?"
Me: Always has been.
I believe in freedom, so if people want to, like me, that's great. If people don't, that's fine too.
I think too much power is given to the act of losing it. The concept of virginity just doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter.
@@ThePsychoRenegade i think you can say that from your perspective but from a religious person's perspective it definitely could matter
If you partner gets raped, would you accuse them of cheating? Makes no sense.
Asexuals are valid, please stop excluding and dismissing their range of wants, proclivities, & relationships
Based
Don't do conservatism, kids.
I read the title as "Should You Save Yourself FROM Marriage?" ... Then I laughed because I read it wrong... then I cried because my mis-read hits closer to home than the video's actual title.
Point is, the ONLY things marriage is good for are prenuptials, alimony, split assets, divorce lawyers, court cases, split visitation rights and unending amounts of misery.
*Nico being worried his parents will see the video is just another example of an Asian child fearing what their Asian parents will say.
*Rahan's socially conservative upbringing is likely a combination of growing up Muslim, female, and Asian (South Asian in her case). [Also, very likely she has only been judged for being a virgin by people that are neither Asian, SWANA, nor Muslims and praised for being a virgin by Asians and Muslims.]
*It is very telling that the female panelists have a lot more to say about how toxic the concept or virginity and over-valuing virginity are than the male panelists. It just further shows how gendered the concept of virginity is and how much more toxic it is toward women and girls than toward men and boys.
This wasn't the worst Jubilee Middle Ground panel, but it wasn't the best either. At least that panel didn't have a bunch of trolls trying to constantly overpower and sealion the reasonable people.
tbh i've always taken asexual to be like homo or hetero, a focus on **who** you are attracted to. when i was 21 and still wondering "when do people realize they are straight/gay?" was a p big sign. many either fall into heteroormative roles or like me, was assumed gay until proven straight. everyone assumed i was just hardcore in the closet since i never "admitted" to being gay
bruh the muslim girl sent me dfjkfjhkj and I'm muslim too so it makes it even worse
@@Ass_of_Amalek yea not to be that person, but I don't claim her to be a part of my faith ._. I couldn't even finish the video because of the cringe
I've been saving myself for this jubilee segment, ay yo!
“Save yourself for marriage!” I don’t think my hand got the memo! 😂
Yeh asexuality is a really broad spectrum
After a wile you realize everything is and then you can’t unsee it
@@buddingdufus that’s what happens when you analyze such a diverse population as the human species. When no two people are the same, black and white can’t cut it
@@drpepperman2765 heh yeah
Unfortunately in Ireland we actually do also have a word for someone who hasn’t kissed before: “a fridget”
Me standing outside that woman's house with a bat is also a learning experience :)
in roblox
Ive been assaulted, and it is really hard to like fight people on it. Can't speak for everyone but it for sure is a common thing to like self blame, or to feel like maybe you could have prevented it from happening. So on some level, you already feel like "it happened for a reason," no matter how stupid that sounds to you, or whether you know already that thats not the case. So when people say it out loud, its like you just kinda shrug and say I guess 🤷🏼♀️
I have a LOT of experience with staunchly religious people, and I'm gonna go ahead and say that I see right through the religious girl. The ones who lay it on that thickly, but only verbally, not visually, are only doing so to appease their elders. They have something to hide. Might sound ridiculous to some people, but I can see it from a mile away. She probably has very socially progressive views in reality, and doesn't abide by the less defensible traditions (eg. clothing), but some rules are just non-negotiable in the family's eyes. I would be very surprised if she was even truly a virgin, and that's probably for the best. For her sake, I'd rather her be a liar than a hollowed out victim of brainwashing. She seems empathetic and desperate to reach a little bit farther than she has been allowed.
i kinda got that too, she doesn't actually seem too religious but more self righteous
Blue haired girl is based. No suprise
I read recently that the biological purpose of the hymen is to protect against infections from fecal matter, especially as babies. At that point it's harder and becomes more elastic with age and with puberty when the inner organs grow infection becomes less likely.
Interesting! I had never thought about a biological purpose for the hymen, but that makes sense.
The concept of "virginity" being dependent on it is incredibly arbitrary, too-- it can break at any time just by doing ordinary things. I knew girls who wouldn't use tampons because they were afraid it would break their hymens and that would mean they weren't virgins anymore! So wild.
In Canada you're taught about consent in sex ed at grade 9 and ITS MANDATORY! US, ITS NOT THAT HARD! Its very simple, it takes 15 minutes to explain! Its so important
I agree on the Vaush take of save it until marriage. Sexual compatibility is important to me. And that shit is some disgusting patriarchy bs 🤮
This comment is confusing
yeah, i saw a post on reddit about some dude whose friend was a real lazy lover. Like no foreplay or anything, he'd just lube his wife up, stick it in until he climaxes, and then go to sleep, without a care in the world about whether or not she orgasmed. Unsurprisingly, the woman was unsatisfied with her sex life. You definitely don't want to end up married to someone like that.
@@_DeathDreams_ sorry i meant on vaush's opinion
@@chembabe8264 Oh okay sorry for the confusion
GaaaAAAAaaaaAAAhhhhHhhhHhhhh! That Muslim girl’s attitude on losing virginity reminded me so much of what I was raised to aspire to, as someone born in the Mormon/LDS faith. And yes- just as Vaush says- many, many people of the LDS/Mormon church have a particularly unhealthy and close-minded view on sex or sexuality in general. There’s so much shame surrounding it.
I mean I spent my entire teenage-hood in and out of my “bishop’s office” (the “bishop” is the appointed head of a particular LDS “ward” for a given area) because I didn’t “regard my temple (aka: body) as sacred” and so had to attend these awkward one-on-one meetings every Sunday after church... and not only that but I was also labeled “not worthy” during those stints of sexual exploration, and as such I wasn’t allowed to partake of the Sacrament (bread and water) on Sundays at church like the rest of my “worthy” peers.
Now this may not seem like it would be THAT big of a deal, but ya see... during those “Sacrament meetings,” certain characters made a point to carefully observe the youth in particular within the congregation, and each and every time I shamefully had to pass the trays of bread and water on to the next person, skipping myself, I swear the state of my worthiness might as well have been put on display during every goddamn Sunday service. It would have made no difference. I’m sure that being the daughter of two parents who were always appointed to highly regarded positions within the church, certainly didn’t help my case though. Church leaders expected and anticipated a much different outcome from me. 😬
Despite my upbringing, and despite my shame-filled teenage years though! -I’m relieved to say that, about a decade ago, I separated myself fully from the toxicity that was the Mormon culture for me. My family all still dutifully practices, but we’re actually all on great terms, and there’s even a mutual respect for each other’s beliefs or lack of. I feel especially grateful for this, too, as I know how rare it is in ye olde Mormonville for there not to be contention within a family of both believers and nonbeliever(s).
BEST of all, though... about a year or two after my excommunication from the Mormon church, I had built up the courage to do some serious self-searching in regards to my sexuality. This resulted in me putting several puzzle pieces together and ultimately coming out as a gay woman. ☺️ And I gotta say... the amount of peace and contentment that accompanied this revelation, was... awesome. 😍😍
Thank you for attending my Ted talk. 😆
Damn, blue hair girl is cool as hell, so many good takes.
I was raised to save myself and believed I'd go to hell if I didn't. I also believed I'd go to hell if I hung out with other teenagers doing horrible things like skateboarding and listening to music. I'm now 31, single, and unable to say hi to people. Yay for being pure? Kill me.
(Granted I didn't go to church, my relationship with god was in my head exclusively, I'm sure if I cared enough to go to church I would have been a popular cult member with marriageable candidates, but church just sounded sooooo boring.)
"I come from a tiny town in minnesota" "I come from a tiny conservative town and I've left, here are my tattoos and hair" I feel called out
Should we maybe be worried if on like every sex-related Jubilee panel, at least half the women there report having been assaulted???
Consent can be cute or/and hot!
"Is it...would it be okay if I kissed you?"
"Are you sure you want this, we don't have to, hun."
"Please, Alejandro, take me! It's all I ever want!"
"I cannot! For I even lay a finger upon your skin, I would ravage you."
"Oh, please, ravage me! I am aching for you!"
"Then come, my love; to the bed!"
It's that simple.
If it's not a verbal yes in a sane and safe state of mind, then it is sexual assault.
10/10. Also a few of these lines made me think "anime watchers are either the best or the worst at asking consent"
fwi : Demisexuals are in the asexual spectrum. it goes from Asexual (repulsed) to hypersexual. I guess you know that... but just a little FYI for those who don't ;) from your neighbor ace!!
Nothing snarky, just a genuine thanks. That was succinct and informative and I appreciate learning this!
Wait, asexuals are not sex repulsed inherently. They just don't experience sexual attraction. Asexual/allosexual (not ace) and libido are separate
These are the kind of people who say Hubba Bubba unironically
And, we know that chads say Hooba Booba.
I wasn’t aware any one had ever said that ever.
Hubba bubba was bubble gum in Australia in the 90s and 00s. That's a lot of people saying those words.
Marrying someone you've never slept with is one of the dumbest things you can do.
For real man, how is it even possible?
There has to be some kind of human contact unless you marry someone on the third date
@@CHClNOfullmelt I mean that's p much what a bunch of these people do
If you're ace it's different I guess.
@@CHClNOfullmelt there's arranged marriages of course, but that's it's own can of worms in a whole different culture
@@alicedeligny9240 eh, depends on the ace.
Regardless, someone lacking interest in sex and openly communicating that to their partner is quite different from two 19 year old Christians getting married after four months so they can fuck
Edit: I reread the original comment and realized that the second part of my comment isn't relevant to what you said. Sorry bout that