The Fear Factory in Architype and Transgression was neither before nor after these two masterpieces. They are like 2 parts of one whole. That composition, that message, that energy and that sound in these two albums ... just amazing!!! Thanks guys for this work! FF🏴🏴🏴
Burton calls Transgression a "failed experiment"...I pretty much agree. There was some good stuff, but a lot of it was a weird FF/pop blend. Archetype was good, but playing it safe with the classic FF template.
@@blucu001 so it was that Christian was having an affair behind closed doors with Raymond's wife. Or it is the other way. But I heard Dino saying one time that it was why they broke up.
All 8 Fear Factory albums plus the new one in 2015 are all Masterpieces. Every song is near flawless. Transgression is as good as Obsolete or Mechanize. Fear Factory is the greatest band of all times. Music doesn't have to be heavy as balls to be epic. Echo of My Scream for one is beautiful just like the other 10+ slower Fear Factory tracks. Burton C. Bell is my favorite vocalist ever and everything he will continue to make is epic. The dude is a fucking genius that's in the greatest band period. When you have a voice like Burton C.Bell you don't need heavy shit every fucking time.
Joshua Masserant Burton C. Bell's vocals are my favorite ones ever, I just want to cry when I listen new music from this unbelievable vocalist. On my top 5 best vocalists ever.
I like all their albums. I don't care who is in the band as long as Burton is there. All I am saying is that Demanufacture is easily a top 5 metal album of all time....that makes it their best album ever.
Without a doubt, I have met Christian a couple of times and he was very approachable and down to earth. The first time was in Philly they were opening up for Iron Maiden (not Bruse Dickinson)
Thank you. I think ego has really gotten to Dino's head, and in turn gone to Burton C. Bell's head, as it seems he is kind of an impressionable guy. I really would have enjoyed seeing Fear Factory play Spinal Compression & Millennium live, as I felt those were the strongest songs on the Transgression record.
Christian is an underrated guitarist, I love his work on this two Fear factory albums he wrote.. The proof they are good is too see Dino Cazares playing these songs at every Fear Factory show 🔥
There was a lot of drama, apparently, Raymond was sleeping with Christian's partner or something, also the band's manager. Raymond and Christian were able to make amends but Burton didn't accept the behaviour. When Dino and Burton reconciled Burton offered to Ray and Christian to get the band back together, so long as they get a new manager. Christian and Ray refused. Cue the lawsuits and where we are now. Big shame, I'd love nothing more for them all to reconcile but the ship has sailed, and Ray has retired from drumming.
Cris and Raymond left a very important mark in the history of the band! I am saddened by the rupture of relations between the members. In my opinion Archetype just doesn't surpass Demanufacture, and Transgression is underrated!!! Missing the Archetype era...
personally i lovea ll their records, each having their own unique feel, message and killer tracks. My favourite albums are actuall Transgression, Archetype and Mechanize cant beat them 3, but of course as a long time die hard FF fan i love ALL their albums! :)
Obsolete is still THE album that made Fear Factory what they are today. They lost a lot of what they were just by the sheer force and power they exerted touring for that album. Those shows were absolute intensity and power. They will always be one of the most unique acts in metal but to me, especially after losing the original line-up, they're a shell of what they once were.
All of you can say what you want about this album: I personally love the imperfections on Transgression. I believe having a "crisp" and "clean" record doesn't sound as appealing to me.
@@cosmicgazer.1468fuck no bro😂 Digimortal was not overproduced🤦♂️and clearly you don't know what overproduced sounds like.😂 There are a couple meh songs on Digimortal but it is LEAGUES ahead of transgression. Half of transgression could've been good with better production and the other half is shitty filler songs🤷♂️ Digimortal is is a diamond with some visible cracks. Transgression is a fake diamond With visible cracks to hide a load of shit inside🤷♂️
Archetype/Transgression era was Fear Factory's best. I can't stand the new stuff they made since the reformation with Dino, and practically kicking Chris and Ray out
That was their vision at the time and a fan will respect that, that is Their music, in todays world everyone wants to critisize, I dont give a shit if somebody doesnt like it, why the fuck ru even here ...flark off!
always loved fear factory👍 this album wasn't too bad at all. It wasn't bad as far as experimental was concerned and had some really cool tracks:) even Mechanize was a bit experimental as well. It wasn't until I heard the Industrialist that I was taken back to their Demanufacture, Obsolete, Digimortal era:). Archetype was a really cool album as well which had some classic FF tracks. I just wish these guys would work their stuff out. Burton, Dino, Christian and Raymond. Come on guys:)
Why was Byron Stroud never allowed to record bass tracks for any of the Fear Factory albums? He was in the band for 8 years while they recorded 3 different albums and was never allowed to put down any bass tracks at all. Even here, Raymond is talking about "the 3 of them", not including Byron as a member of the group. It's no wonder why the dude quit the band last year.
By the time Christian and Raymond were still part of FF, Byron was also in Strapping Young Lad band, and didn't have time to do the albums record (saw that in an interview). And when Dino came back, I just think it's because he didn't like him very well (even if gene hoglan, who was the drummer of Strapping Young Lad, was here). Dino may be a talented guitarist, with some good imagination to put some kickass riff and atmospher, he's still hard to work with and can be a real bitch (that's why Christian and Raymond left the band, followed later by Byron, and i suppose Gene for the same reasons).
Not to mention the title track "Demanufacture" which is amazing. Take some shrooms, turn the lights off, close your eyes and listen to the entire album and prepare to have your fucking mind blown to pieces.
Deamnufacture, Obsolete and Mechanize for the win.. archetype is over rated.. industrialist is boring.. transgression is under rated.. Digimortal is the shittest by far.
I love Christian's type of sound&composing more- it is more open, more airy, more breathing. Dino is a claustrophobic and toxic guy, which mirrors in his sound. It's a shame Christian couldn't proceed with Arkaea and disappeared in crappy side-projects. His place in something like this era captured on the video. He should've form the band called Archetype or Transgression to play this kind of music. And find the vocalist that sound similar to Burton, not that sick screamer in Arkaea.
Wow, listening to this record again is really interesting! Hated this album for so long, I guess it's because it wasn't the Fear Factory I knew and loved, however it is still a great record. I like to see it as it's own thing, like a side project, then it sounds better in a way! You know what I mean?
Unfortunately, I'm not an OG FF fan. I was introduced to them with the album archetype in 2003 when I was 13. My favorite albums of FF are obsolete, digimortal, hate files, archetype and transgression. Not really into newer FF but I'm glad that there are still FF records being produced
There must be some kind of law that has to do with having a different opinion to everyone else. Chill the fuck out people, we all love Fear Factory, what difference does it make?
Their old stuff is great, don't get me wrong. I for one just think that Transgression sounded better than what Mechanize and Industrialist turned out to be, I know the production on Trans was somewhat low-end, but imagine hearing Contagion or 540,000 Degrees if they did it properly.
Well, they are my favorite band. Been listening to them since 1994. Seen then live 6 times. Met them a few times. They recently did a tour where they played Demanufacture from start to finish. Why do you think they did that???? Do you think they did that because it is their worst album? lmfao.
"Lol". You can't tell someone "This one is better, shut up and think like this."... Fear Factory has been (in my opinion) flawless from Soul Of A New Machine until now. There's no such thing as "best album", it's just your favorite
I remember reading an interview with Wolbers not long after Transgression came out and you could totally tell he wasn't happy with the album but was trying his best to hide it. I agree with your opinions about The Industrialist too, such a lifeless sounding record. Digimortal smokes The Industrialist, nowhere near as bad of a record as people make out. I think a lot of people got carried away with the whole 'Back The Fuck Up'' thing and how it was supposedly all 'nu metal' sounding.
@@kevinvigil5867I dont hate the industrialist but it's literally just a watered-down version of mechanize😂 The drums were entirely digital, so that is probably why it sounds lifeless.
Without Dino the band lost that mechanic-killer sound, but without Wolbers and Herrera now has no inspiration in the music.. Sounds different o.O. The best era was 95 to 99
OLIMPO D.P.S! Mechanize and industrialist have their moments, but I absolutely loved archetype and agree that FF lost a lot when they forced out their original rhythm section, especially with how much Christian added to the band
@@DCWelker - Christian wasn't on Industrialist... Reprehensible Meshuggah - I'd say Archetype & Mechanize are tied in quality. But Transgression & Industrialist are below both of them.
@@Sean-fv4wi sorry, I meant Transgression, not Industrialist. He used a Krank Krankenstein on Mechanize. I have no idea how he makes good amps sound god awful
I read that Christian Olde Wolbers has disowned this album, and that Fear Factory at the time did not like their recording terms for this album. I can see where they're coming from, as I was alittle put off by this album the first time I heard it, but I still feel that this was MUCH heavier than The Industrialist. Not that it was a bad album, it just didnt feel like it had much of any soul to it. I actually prefer Digimortal to T.I.
It wasn't just 'Back The Fuck Up' that heralded the nu-metal accusations on 'Digimortal', it was also the pro-tools ear-candy production job as well as simple one-string-one-finger riffs that did it. There were some great moments on that album but there was also one eye on the bank balance...
Worst day of my life: Fear Factory disbanded Best day of my life: Fear Factory got back together again That shit almost made me religious....almost ;-)
Kinda sad to hear them talk about how tight they were at the time and how comfortable they had gotten with writing music together and they'd be split in only a couple of years.
Just convert them as Mp3 and then upload those tracks inside on your Itunes. Of course if you got the original CD instead of a copy or even a downloaded Mp3 files from anywhere .......
Still puzzles me to this day why the low end is so farty here. Sounds distorted in a bad way. Sounds like this on the final studio release. Messed-up mastering maybe ?
And too think it would be these 3 and not Dino who would actually bring the band to its worst stage with lawsuits and court cases over money owed to each other,,despite all the great laughs they had making this record,,
The Fear Factory in Architype and Transgression was neither before nor after these two masterpieces. They are like 2 parts of one whole. That composition, that message, that energy and that sound in these two albums ... just amazing!!! Thanks guys for this work! FF🏴🏴🏴
Burton calls Transgression a "failed experiment"...I pretty much agree. There was some good stuff, but a lot of it was a weird FF/pop blend. Archetype was good, but playing it safe with the classic FF template.
@@gst013
>playing it safe with the classic FF template.
basically all FF albums since 2010
I wish they still had Raymond Herrera, he is a bad ass drummer and he was a big asset to Fear Factory.
Especially in the songwriting. But unfortunately he chose to side with Christian and Burton and Dino wouldn't do anything with Christian.
@@blucu001 why ?
@@blucu001 so it was that Christian was having an affair behind closed doors with Raymond's wife. Or it is the other way. But I heard Dino saying one time that it was why they broke up.
Couldn't agree more...🥁🤘🏻
@@brettjackman6977 Bit weird both of them would then form Akraea then?
Love this album
So underrated
Supernova is a phenomenal song
Fear Factory has made some great albums over the years. Love their heavy rhythms , great drumming and Burtons vocals
It's a shame FF doesn't get the respect they deserve as musicians. If it wasn't for FF bands like KillSwitch Engage wouldn't be around. Horns up!
On the other hand, there will be no djent and world would be a much better place.
All 8 Fear Factory albums plus the new one in 2015 are all Masterpieces. Every song is near flawless. Transgression is as good as Obsolete or Mechanize. Fear Factory is the greatest band of all times. Music doesn't have to be heavy as balls to be epic. Echo of My Scream for one is beautiful just like the other 10+ slower Fear Factory tracks. Burton C. Bell is my favorite vocalist ever and everything he will continue to make is epic. The dude is a fucking genius that's in the greatest band period. When you have a voice like Burton C.Bell you don't need heavy shit every fucking time.
Joshua Masserant Burton C. Bell's vocals are my favorite ones ever, I just want to cry when I listen new music from this unbelievable vocalist. On my top 5 best vocalists ever.
@@gamesystem540
Isn't he was trying to copy Max Cavalera?
Archetype was good, better than Transgression, but Transgression definitely has many great moments.
yup
Agreed
Burton was so far ahead of his time!!!!
No he wasn't
By the way, that's an Early 1970's Buick Riviera Boat Tail he's driving. Big Block 455..
Transgression song on GIGANTOUR DVD was brutally the best song on that DVD hands down.
I like all their albums. I don't care who is in the band as long as Burton is there. All I am saying is that Demanufacture is easily a top 5 metal album of all time....that makes it their best album ever.
"Echoes of my scream" is an awesome "power balad"
Burton, Herrera and Cazárez the best line up ever of factory until now. Greatness
Without a doubt, I have met Christian a couple of times and he was very approachable and down to earth. The first time was in Philly they were opening up for Iron Maiden (not Bruse Dickinson)
Thank you. I think ego has really gotten to Dino's head, and in turn gone to Burton C. Bell's head, as it seems he is kind of an impressionable guy. I really would have enjoyed seeing Fear Factory play Spinal Compression & Millennium live, as I felt those were the strongest songs on the Transgression record.
Thank you fear factory for this album. It reminds me of my friends who have passed away.
Christian is an underrated guitarist, I love his work on this two Fear factory albums he wrote..
The proof they are good is too see Dino Cazares playing these songs at every Fear Factory show 🔥
I bought the dvd back in the days . ❤
Burton in the Trangsression video reminded me of Jonathan Davis with his hairdo
And the paedo tash..
He also looks like jd in the linchpin thumbnail
FEAR FACTORY Favorite Band
Its without Dino but it is one of the best Fear Factory Albums
No way!
I fucking hands down agree!
This album did not need a Dino. Great album without Dino…
one of my top fav singers of all time..... much luv FF
i still dont understand how Burton flipp flopped from being with Christian and Ray to concolidate and be back with Dino again
There was a lot of drama, apparently, Raymond was sleeping with Christian's partner or something, also the band's manager. Raymond and Christian were able to make amends but Burton didn't accept the behaviour. When Dino and Burton reconciled Burton offered to Ray and Christian to get the band back together, so long as they get a new manager. Christian and Ray refused. Cue the lawsuits and where we are now. Big shame, I'd love nothing more for them all to reconcile but the ship has sailed, and Ray has retired from drumming.
25:27 Raymond SLAMS on those drums like crazy!
Oh yeah he's a bad ass
one of the first djent non djent bands
Best lineup of the band in my opinion
Cris and Raymond left a very important mark in the history of the band! I am saddened by the rupture of relations between the members. In my opinion Archetype just doesn't surpass Demanufacture, and Transgression is underrated!!! Missing the Archetype era...
Thank you for this upload!
Awesome,Epic, Outstanding &Timeless, Muzikal/Audio-Prodigy's, ×4!
particularly love the bit when Byron talks
personally i lovea ll their records, each having their own unique feel, message and killer tracks. My favourite albums are actuall Transgression, Archetype and Mechanize cant beat them 3, but of course as a long time die hard FF fan i love ALL their albums! :)
Obsolete is still THE album that made Fear Factory what they are today. They lost a lot of what they were just by the sheer force and power they exerted touring for that album. Those shows were absolute intensity and power. They will always be one of the most unique acts in metal but to me, especially after losing the original line-up, they're a shell of what they once were.
All of you can say what you want about this album: I personally love the imperfections on Transgression. I believe having a "crisp" and "clean" record doesn't sound as appealing to me.
Transgression.. diamond in the rough
Digimortal.. over polished turd..
Then you must hate about 75% of all FF tunes.
@@cosmicgazer.1468fuck no bro😂
Digimortal was not overproduced🤦♂️and clearly you don't know what overproduced sounds like.😂
There are a couple meh songs on Digimortal but it is LEAGUES ahead of transgression.
Half of transgression could've been good with better production and the other half is shitty filler songs🤷♂️
Digimortal is is a diamond with some visible cracks.
Transgression is a fake diamond
With visible cracks to hide a load of shit inside🤷♂️
Archetype/Transgression era was Fear Factory's best. I can't stand the new stuff they made since the reformation with Dino, and practically kicking Chris and Ray out
Thanx for uploading this!
One of the best albums.
this is just super amazingly tough and cool
FF is Amazing!!! Always will be
I Love this album
OOOOOOOH YEAH
MORE FEAR FACTORY!
Pure Awesomeness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moment of impact is a weird video but I the vibe it brings to the table👌👌
r guys high awesome cd!!! I would love to see ur work
lol....I actually really love Digimortal....but Demanufacture is by far their best album....nothing can ever, ever touch that album.
this is the best line-up, really need Christian on bass and Ray on Drums again
Muito bom!! o som. Conheço bem o Fear Factory.
I love that Jackson King V.
27:28 and now its all the rage. R.I.P Crump.
Guys please get back together!!!!!
LOVE THAT BLACK BUICK OLD CAR YAHOO SO FEAR FACTORY!!
That was their vision at the time and a fan will respect that, that is Their music, in todays world everyone wants to critisize, I dont give a shit if somebody doesnt like it, why the fuck ru even here ...flark off!
always loved fear factory👍 this album wasn't too bad at all. It wasn't bad as far as experimental was concerned and had some really cool tracks:) even Mechanize was a bit experimental as well. It wasn't until I heard the Industrialist that I was taken back to their Demanufacture, Obsolete, Digimortal era:). Archetype was a really cool album as well which had some classic FF tracks. I just wish these guys would work their stuff out. Burton, Dino, Christian and Raymond. Come on guys:)
Burton, looks a lot like Lord Worm from Cryptopsy here
He looks like Jonathan Davis
I have to admit there are a couple songs from Mechanize/Industrialist that I really like. Depraved Mind Murder for one!
#FearFactory2021 is coming!
awesome, cheers dude
Why was Byron Stroud never allowed to record bass tracks for any of the Fear Factory albums? He was in the band for 8 years while they recorded 3 different albums and was never allowed to put down any bass tracks at all. Even here, Raymond is talking about "the 3 of them", not including Byron as a member of the group. It's no wonder why the dude quit the band last year.
By the time Christian and Raymond were still part of FF, Byron was also in Strapping Young Lad band, and didn't have time to do the albums record (saw that in an interview). And when Dino came back, I just think it's because he didn't like him very well (even if gene hoglan, who was the drummer of Strapping Young Lad, was here). Dino may be a talented guitarist, with some good imagination to put some kickass riff and atmospher, he's still hard to work with and can be a real bitch (that's why Christian and Raymond left the band, followed later by Byron, and i suppose Gene for the same reasons).
Gene left because they wouldn't let him play on The Industrialist
@@tfwnoyandere www.metalinsider.net/metal-musical-chairs/gene-hoglan-found-out-he-was-out-of-fear-factory-the-same-way-we-did
yes im not sure why i commented that
Not to mention the title track "Demanufacture" which is amazing. Take some shrooms, turn the lights off, close your eyes and listen to the entire album and prepare to have your fucking mind blown to pieces.
Best Fear Factory album
Fucking love this record
I agree!
Mechanize and The Industrialist are the most awesome of FF music!
Slave labour was a good tune from Archetype tho.
Deamnufacture, Obsolete and Mechanize for the win.. archetype is over rated.. industrialist is boring.. transgression is under rated.. Digimortal is the shittest by far.
yes...I agree
The Machine Metal Gods !!!!!
I love Christian's type of sound&composing more- it is more open, more airy, more breathing. Dino is a claustrophobic and toxic guy, which mirrors in his sound. It's a shame Christian couldn't proceed with Arkaea and disappeared in crappy side-projects. His place in something like this era captured on the video. He should've form the band called Archetype or Transgression to play this kind of music. And find the vocalist that sound similar to Burton, not that sick screamer in Arkaea.
DUDE ITS ALL GOOD U DON`T HAVE TO CALL PPL BAD NAMES1 HERE WE ALL LOVE THE SAME BAND HERE! FF4LIFE! SINCE 1989!!
Would love to see them go soul of a new machine riffs with the more modern sound
Wow, listening to this record again is really interesting! Hated this album for so long, I guess it's because it wasn't the Fear Factory I knew and loved, however it is still a great record. I like to see it as it's own thing, like a side project, then it sounds better in a way! You know what I mean?
it has good songs, the production is so fucking bad though
Unfortunately, I'm not an OG FF fan. I was introduced to them with the album archetype in 2003 when I was 13. My favorite albums of FF are obsolete, digimortal, hate files, archetype and transgression. Not really into newer FF but I'm glad that there are still FF records being produced
Demanufacture os way better than Digimortal.
Raymond Herrera, yes
15:12 My feelings on this album.
Foda-se. Você não é ninguém mesmo...
Many of the riffs on this album slap, would've been nice if they had more time to develop it all.
Good album
There must be some kind of law that has to do with having a different opinion to everyone else. Chill the fuck out people, we all love Fear Factory, what difference does it make?
Metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah man, I see what you are saying. I feel the same way about Demanufacture. But yeah, Obsolete is amazing.
I need to try the harmonica mic on vocals.
Yeah
Their old stuff is great, don't get me wrong. I for one just think that Transgression sounded better than what Mechanize and Industrialist turned out to be, I know the production on Trans was somewhat low-end, but imagine hearing Contagion or 540,000 Degrees if they did it properly.
Well, they are my favorite band. Been listening to them since 1994. Seen then live 6 times. Met them a few times. They recently did a tour where they played Demanufacture from start to finish. Why do you think they did that???? Do you think they did that because it is their worst album? lmfao.
"Lol". You can't tell someone "This one is better, shut up and think like this."... Fear Factory has been (in my opinion) flawless from Soul Of A New Machine until now. There's no such thing as "best album", it's just your favorite
I remember reading an interview with Wolbers not long after Transgression came out and you could totally tell he wasn't happy with the album but was trying his best to hide it. I agree with your opinions about The Industrialist too, such a lifeless sounding record. Digimortal smokes The Industrialist, nowhere near as bad of a record as people make out. I think a lot of people got carried away with the whole 'Back The Fuck Up'' thing and how it was supposedly all 'nu metal' sounding.
How the fuck is the industrialist a lifeless record?! I love that fucking record!
@@kevinvigil5867I dont hate the industrialist but it's literally just a watered-down version of mechanize😂
The drums were entirely digital, so that is probably why it sounds lifeless.
Without Dino the band lost that mechanic-killer sound, but without Wolbers and Herrera now has no inspiration in the music.. Sounds different o.O. The best era was 95 to 99
OLIMPO D.P.S! Mechanize and industrialist have their moments, but I absolutely loved archetype and agree that FF lost a lot when they forced out their original rhythm section, especially with how much Christian added to the band
Christian's guitar tone was fucking awful on archetype and industrialist
92 to 95 was Fear Factory then they became more Fun Factory, which isn't a bad thing I guess for many fans.
@@DCWelker - Christian wasn't on Industrialist...
Reprehensible Meshuggah - I'd say Archetype & Mechanize are tied in quality. But Transgression & Industrialist are below both of them.
@@Sean-fv4wi sorry, I meant Transgression, not Industrialist. He used a Krank Krankenstein on Mechanize. I have no idea how he makes good amps sound god awful
I read that Christian Olde Wolbers has disowned this album, and that Fear Factory at the time did not like their recording terms for this album. I can see where they're coming from, as I was alittle put off by this album the first time I heard it, but I still feel that this was MUCH heavier than The Industrialist. Not that it was a bad album, it just didnt feel like it had much of any soul to it. I actually prefer Digimortal to T.I.
BILLY GOULD! \m/
It wasn't just 'Back The Fuck Up' that heralded the nu-metal accusations on 'Digimortal', it was also the pro-tools ear-candy production job as well as simple one-string-one-finger riffs that did it. There were some great moments on that album but there was also one eye on the bank balance...
totally agree with you. Demanufacture was fuckin killer. easily the best
Fuck yeah guys!! 🤘🤘
1:04 Burton's car is cool as fuck
Johnathan Davis on the mic
Chris P. Bacon where?
@@adamtorok6048 10:23
I've only recently found them. Could you give me a quick runthrough of this history you mentioned?
Worst day of my life: Fear Factory disbanded
Best day of my life: Fear Factory got back together again
That shit almost made me religious....almost ;-)
i love this jonathan davis era of burton
Kinda sad to hear them talk about how tight they were at the time and how comfortable they had gotten with writing music together and they'd be split in only a couple of years.
Why did they?
it sucks that this is my favorite album by them but yet iTunes doesn't have it in there database
Just convert them as Mp3 and then upload those tracks inside on your Itunes. Of course if you got the original CD instead of a copy or even a downloaded Mp3 files from anywhere .......
Well at least, this was their worst, but it's not so bad. I love every record that Fear Factory ever did at their whole career.
Still puzzles me to this day why the low end is so farty here. Sounds distorted in a bad way. Sounds like this on the final studio release. Messed-up mastering maybe ?
Dino regards Soul Of A New Machine as their heaviest album and you know what? I agree. It's sloppy but man is it heavy!!
angelcrusher420 now imagine Soul Of A New Machine with a newer sound recording !
It’s death industrial metal of course dood
Demanufacture is a better record.
Too much grindcore for such a long album for me..
And too think it would be these 3 and not Dino who would actually bring the band to its worst stage with lawsuits and court cases over money owed to each other,,despite all the great laughs they had making this record,,
5:26 Rufio Rufio
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"words are bad" lol.