Hearing what happened in Poland during and near the close of the war, especially the revisionist myths, was very interesting to me. Having grown up in Canada, the war on the Eastern front was mostly skipped over in history class and we get taught that "the allies" were the ones who defeated Germany, when in reality the Soviets (who I want to be clear, had a host of their own problems) were the ones who did a lot of the heavy lifting. Still, skipping over history is better than telling falsehoods about it, which is what I had been taught about Japan's defeat. I mentioned on stream that the US's own government website has the accurate version of what happened, and you can find it via the department of energy website. It might sound like a strange place, however the department of energy also includes nuclear energy, and so it has a large page about the usage of nuclear weapons in war. The website reports on events as they've happened, and is one of the few cases (without looking at declassified documents and military journals of the commanders in charge) where you'll see what happened behind the scenes. The short of it is Japan didn't actually care about its citizens and only cared that its Emperor would be left alone, and the US refused to accept their surrender, dropping both bombs instead, mainly as a show of force against the Soviets, who were gearing up to do their own attacks and probably invade Japan. After the bombs, the US offered Japan a surrender, where they would leave the Emperor untouched. Japan agreed, and it was only after that these new myths, like the "unconditional surrender", or that the US would have lost 1 million soldiers in the invasion (they would have let the Soviets invade and take the casualties for them even if that figure was true) came about. Even the bombs themselves served as a convenient scapegoat, since now Japan's generals didn't have to take responsibility for losing the war, they could just claim it was impossible to fight this new superweapon. In short, everyone who died by the bombs died for no reason at all. It was meaningless cruelty, perhaps best shown by the fact that the first bomb fell onto a hospital. That wasn't the intended target, it had drifted, however the bombs were never intended to be used against the military in any meaningful capacity and the fact that a hospital was always going to be in the immediate blast zone says a lot. That in mind, it's not a surprise that these myths came about in order to try and rationalize such horrific acts.
The Soviets literally needed us to give them tanks, ships, weapons, and aircraft because they had shit industry? Sure they did “heavy lifting” if you mean throw troops at the Germans with barely any equipment.
@@InternalErrorz I'm going to assume you're from the US, and we'll start with the first thing listed. Please explain to me when the US gave them shipments of T-34 tanks. I'm not denying that they were leased a lot, and I'm also not denying that they'd be far less effective in the overall war without the leases, especially fuel, but the idea of a defenseless nation only saved by its imports is another myth you were taught in schools.
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Hearing what happened in Poland during and near the close of the war, especially the revisionist myths, was very interesting to me. Having grown up in Canada, the war on the Eastern front was mostly skipped over in history class and we get taught that "the allies" were the ones who defeated Germany, when in reality the Soviets (who I want to be clear, had a host of their own problems) were the ones who did a lot of the heavy lifting.
Still, skipping over history is better than telling falsehoods about it, which is what I had been taught about Japan's defeat. I mentioned on stream that the US's own government website has the accurate version of what happened, and you can find it via the department of energy website. It might sound like a strange place, however the department of energy also includes nuclear energy, and so it has a large page about the usage of nuclear weapons in war. The website reports on events as they've happened, and is one of the few cases (without looking at declassified documents and military journals of the commanders in charge) where you'll see what happened behind the scenes. The short of it is Japan didn't actually care about its citizens and only cared that its Emperor would be left alone, and the US refused to accept their surrender, dropping both bombs instead, mainly as a show of force against the Soviets, who were gearing up to do their own attacks and probably invade Japan. After the bombs, the US offered Japan a surrender, where they would leave the Emperor untouched. Japan agreed, and it was only after that these new myths, like the "unconditional surrender", or that the US would have lost 1 million soldiers in the invasion (they would have let the Soviets invade and take the casualties for them even if that figure was true) came about. Even the bombs themselves served as a convenient scapegoat, since now Japan's generals didn't have to take responsibility for losing the war, they could just claim it was impossible to fight this new superweapon.
In short, everyone who died by the bombs died for no reason at all. It was meaningless cruelty, perhaps best shown by the fact that the first bomb fell onto a hospital. That wasn't the intended target, it had drifted, however the bombs were never intended to be used against the military in any meaningful capacity and the fact that a hospital was always going to be in the immediate blast zone says a lot. That in mind, it's not a surprise that these myths came about in order to try and rationalize such horrific acts.
The Soviets literally needed us to give them tanks, ships, weapons, and aircraft because they had shit industry? Sure they did “heavy lifting” if you mean throw troops at the Germans with barely any equipment.
@@InternalErrorz I'm going to assume you're from the US, and we'll start with the first thing listed. Please explain to me when the US gave them shipments of T-34 tanks.
I'm not denying that they were leased a lot, and I'm also not denying that they'd be far less effective in the overall war without the leases, especially fuel, but the idea of a defenseless nation only saved by its imports is another myth you were taught in schools.