It clearly shows that Perez rb19 was NOT same good car as Verstappen rb19. An f1 driver can never lose that much speed with same car, not even bottom grid drivers
@@er.8213 it shows that perez is not good enough to drive a car like the rb19, the cars are the same, but max is more used to the driving style that the rb19 requires
@@er.8213Checo repeatedly said that he doesn’t like driving with the same sharp front end that Max uses, so probably going back and adopting another driving technique he’s not able to extract the maximum out of the car. But yeah I’m just guessing
Love the table that you added in the bottom left. With the other comparison videos (eg. Australia) it's sometimes hard to compare the different numbers, I have to go back and forth a lot, so this is the perfect solution for presenting the speeds.
Vettel once asked Schumacher "is there a certain line you take in the Esses?" Michael said "not really you just go for it". Hope we keep Suzuka forever, proper F1 track
@@thejonasvanbaelenpodcast how? he would've never been able to pull off something like Senna did in Monaco 1984, or Jim Clark in Belgium 1963 or even Hamilton in Silverstone 2008. Those 3 examples are probably the greatest moments in the history of the sport and I don't think Max has something like that
Glad somebody did a proper analysis on Verstappen’s pole lap. That was a Vettel or Schumacher level masterclass in the esses and it should be massively praised.
When people talk about driver skill in racing, they usually talk about flashy stuff, like saves from massive slides, or driving a car with massive oversteer and constantly correcting it. While that looks very cool and takes some skill, all professional drivers can do this without even thinking. In reality, the most impressive driving doesn't look impressive at all. It looks smooth and easy, even though it's faster than everyone else. Just like Max is doing here. The only giveaway of Max's level is Checo's inability to keep up with him.
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb "when nobody even mentioned lewis" use context clues my guy, it's not hard. I was very clearly referencing the sentence in OPs comment where he said about driving and correcting an oversteery car. He quite literally said that is where drivers get praised, all I did was mention that it is exactly what Lewis is doing now, and all he gets is hate. Suggesting that perhaps people judge drivers skills based not off the drivers true skill, but merely if they like or dislike said driver.
@@CTcuber4KLewis enjoyed the best car for more than half a decade. Barely any corrections needed. Not anymore, Verstappen is the man to beat now. Accept reality already. The constant moaning and crying by #teamlh is just embarrassing at this point. LH stood atop of everyone for many years, enjoy the good memories and move on.
@@spinister4357That‘s simply not true. All teams wanted the engine freeze at some point to focus on 2026. The engine freeze simply came a year earlier because of Honda leaving RB.
I mean lets be honest.. Its still basically a Honda.. Just not Branded as such.. (Honda is allowing them to keep the design spec) but its marketed as Redbull power.. So it is a honda..
@@DesertEagleDutch They didn't cheat, they found a loophole which was eventually closed. Had they really cheated they would've been disqualified from the championship.
@@hristoitchov F1 and Ferrari struck a confidential deal. Which is very sketchy. While other fines to other teams are out in the open. Anyways... doesn't matter really to me. I'm just enjoying Max's supremacy at the moment 😏
That car looks glued to the racetrack. It's insane how it takes the esses. Something interesting is also Leclerc's approach to the corner, he sacrifices T5 for a faster T6 and he is a lot faster in that corner than anyone else, even Verstappen.
Yep and leclerc lose out in T7 because he had to small lift while verstappen and alonso approach make them flat out in T7. Leclerc always has been so aggressive when entering corner while verstappen prioritize exit speed. It's interesting to see them in perfectly equal car. Maybe this weei will be so much interesting
Absolutely love your videos, but in this specific case (as you also mentioned at the end of the video) I think a T7 speed comparison would have been appropriate, as T6 is very much a "setup corner". As you said Alonso and Verstappen were able to go flat-out in T7 because they sacrificed their T6 speed, while Leclerc had to lift substantially because his T6 speed was so high. Anyway, great content! These ultra-level detail videos are so good!
That’s insanity. T5 is possibly my favorite corner on the track on sim. In the 2000’s cars you can take a ton of curb and just launch yourself up the hill it’s fun
max has incredible feel when transitioning between throttle, lift, and brake inputs. his footwork is perfectly synchronized with the tempo of the corner complex. he's also excellent at managing understeer by shifting the load around with the throttle. checo's inputs are so clunky and abrupt in comparison. he arrives to each corner off beat and is forced to play catch up.
This man has done so many underrated and incredible things. People talk about Hamilton’s lap in Singapore ‘18 but forget about laps like this and Monaco ‘23..
There's such little competition and such little at stake given the championships in the bag anyway, that people almost don't pay attention to just how amazing Max is driving. I'm a Max fan but he needs a competitor or another title battle for his legacy. Great performances under pressure like 2021 are what will make people truly appreciate talent.
It’s interesting to watch with the telemetry. The downshift and letting off the accel feels like it loaded the front just enough to get more bite into the last portion of T4 to set up a nice run into T5. I appreciate the telemetry! I suck at Suzuka, this might help.
Yeah he has so much confidence to hold the finish of T4 a little longer to take a wider angle into T5, the weight transfer is instantaneous, no waiting for the car to settle
It just shows how good that car is. The most dominant car ever. In four races they had three 1-2's. They will beat new records this year on most 1-2's and races won in a row for sure. That car is an absolute beast. Even Checo is able to finish second regularly in it.
@@The_Curious_Cat i might agree, but Verstappen is also by far the best current driver of the grid. No idea how he would have stacked up against for instance Hamilton in his best days, but it is the combination of car and driver that makes it unbeatable.
Great video, as always. Verstappen is so impressive. The gap between him and Perez is so big. Watching the onboard we can see Checo is doing more little corrections than Max even though I'm pretty sure Verstappen was carrying more front wing, making the car more reactive but more unstable in the back, more overteering. Imagine what it looked like from Checo's onboard if he was actually driving with Max's setup.
2017-2021 maybe the cars with best perfomance, balanced aero and weight, a powerful engine, don't forget there were a lot of battles in track i.e. Germany 2019, what a race, for me 2022 to nowadays was a step back
Very hard to compare Max to other drivers from different decades, but he is up there with the best! Many haters say that of course he wins because the car is setup to his liking, but they forget that this setup is the hardest to drive and only the best can do it!
@@chanhkhiemtran9010 he isn't a good driver. Just look at Fernando from 2005-2006 renault days to 2007 with mclaren. Much different cars, much different style. Renault needed quite hard steering mid turn while mclaren he needed to steer the car more smoothly.
Notice how Norris not once touched the brake pedal, he lifted longer. Maybe he could reach Verstappen if he got a little bit more rotation by flicking the brake at corner entry at T5
Also something to note, about that last run. I can clearly remember there being talk of the team adding more wing onto the front of the car before that last run, because Max was in the pits a little longer. From that, its fair to assume he probably felt he had all the grip in the world and just attacked turns 3-7.
Would’ve been good to have 2023 clip here as well. With the note that it was a headwind in the esses. Think it would’ve added a little bit because 2023+ headwind is about equal in efficiency to 24 cars+ tailwind.
Verstappen was so smooth on the wheel too, while Perez was having a lot of minor corrections. To do that with one of the fastest, but also extremely twitchy cars.....unbelievably refined, precise control of car rotation (his feeling for the braking limits, his precision on trail-braking, and his throttle modulation are unmatched) and perfectly tuned setups (courtesy of his hard work and willingness to try everything in simulators). I do remember since 2017, Hamilton's throttle control was very refined and precise (of course it would be for all drivers but I mean noticeable even relative to other drivers). He was great. But since we saw with the early 2021 Mercedes, he can't handle a twitchy car as well as Verstappen would. His braking is perhaps much more aggressive on entry (I am hypothesizing). Verstappen's refinement is unmatched in that department. In some medium speed corners where it's a partial lift, I can see Hamilton being close to Verstappen in equal cars (and if the setups are appropriately adjusted).
Great video, but it might have been helpful editing-wise to update the speed table as the driver goes through each turn. I watched the whole vid but still don’t know which turn is turn 5.
Maybe because he has the most dominant car ever on his hands, a teammate that is just there to help him and no other team even close. But it's normal. I mean just look at Hamilton. The guy received all kinds of hate just because he was doing his job, just like Max is doing now. And he's still receiving it despite having a bad car now, some people just live with LH44 rent free on their heads.
Hey bro, can you record comparison of AMR23 last year at Suzuka here, and AMR24 ? Because that almost 2 SECONDS difference is....fucking huge haha, AMR23 - 1.30.4 time in Q2, AMR24 - 1.28.6 in Q3
Now, it's not because I want to discredit Max's performance and spoil the good mood, not at all. It only requires basic logical understanding when it comes to a series of slope combinations that speeds do not tell everything. Although the minimum speed is certainly a good indicator, it does not tell you anything about the total distance traveled from start to finishof the section; Slower speed in a corner CAN in fact result in faster lap times in the end, as it is also about the shortest distance (been there myself, both real track racing 1990s-2010s, besides simracing since mid 80ies). HOWEVER, all that aside, Max also does the lines to perfection. He remains a tough nut to crack ❤
You have to talk about the car in this equation too. Checo's struggles with the RB19 are well known. It was just too pointy for his liking and the team had to compromise the setup to give him a car he was comfortable with. Max on the other hand was able to exploit the downforce advantage the RB19 had over its competitors. Would a Charles or a Lando be able to drive the RB19 to the same limit that Max was without compromising the setup? We'll never know. We do know that this year the RB20 seems to have even more high speed downforce available, so we might see a similar story this year. Ferrari looks like they have a better overall car but are still lacking the overall downforce of the Red Bull, and McLaren might be close on overall downforce but they lack the efficiency. So I think things will be closer, but still Red Bull has a measurable advantage.
Most dominant car in history+GOAT candidate driver+GOATed track+yelistener=perfection. PS: Mate, I really like him, but Checo is so mid, slower than most of the drivers in a car that was literally glued to the ground
To get outqualified by a Ferrari in Suzuka, in a track that has all the characteristics the SF-23 struggles with, is embarrassing, even ignoring the 7 tenths to Max.
The RB19 isn‘t even close to being the most dominant car ever. It‘s factually not even top 3 in the last decade based on the pure performance difference between the fastest/2nd fastest car.
With the previous video about degner, seems like Perez had a lower df setup than Verstappen. Even if the amount of driving skill differs, at this level of driving that doesn't explain the whole difference of speed thrpugh corners.
I am guessing it's because they use different amount of braking for front and rear and also teams might not want to share that data. Just guessing anyway.
@@werner9643 I dont know. I never paid that much attention. Even if we know their ratio, the teams might not want to give the exact brake force or percentage or whatever. I am guessing its fine for Accel as its a lot more complicated, since they have battery and engine so 100% might not even be 100%. This is all just speculation from my end, like I said, I truly don't know anything to give you a exact reason.
Nope, that's just some brake bias adjustments. It still doesn't reveal how much and how long they brake into and out of a turn. Some just stab at the brakes, some of them use trail braking. And teams don't share that data, so, we get the TV graphics as you mentioned.
As impressive as the RB19 was, it will never come close the black beast on rails in the W11 that never got to show it's potential at Suzuka 2020. Pretty sure it would smash all the high speed sectors. The mid speed sectors the RB19 and RB20 would expect to be more dominant with the shorter wheel base. So annoying that the fastest F1 car never got to show it's dominance in front of race fans. And at £400million a per car, it's too expensive to run just for fans to see what it's capable of driven in anger. The Williams was pretty rapid in the higher speed sectors in 2023 Pretty sure the Merc W09 and W10 was quicker in the mid speed but not sure about the high speed.
I know someone who was there and they said it was absolutely amazing how fast Max was he was visually much faster than anyone else. And in one corner don’t remember wich he drove a bit different than anybody else so after the very enthusiastic Japanese fans of course noticed that slight difference and everybody was gathered around one spot and were photographing it and it turned out to be a small bump of whatever that he found out if he didn’t hit it with his tyre he would gain a bit and nobody else noticed that until after all those fans noticed he drove it a bit differently. And btw they were photographing it to check if it is the sim aswell.
This is how you know I’d the car more than anything .. that car is on rails … also shows how Checo is an average driver at best.. he’s in the fastest machine going the slowest out of everyone
Bottas keeps having trouble closing the door: ruclips.net/video/F1qDWalnzBA/видео.html
😂
Last year that meant being a menace on-track
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Because he sucks
a whole 15 kph higher than checo in t4 is absolutely insane to think about
It clearly shows that Perez rb19 was NOT same good car as Verstappen rb19. An f1 driver can never lose that much speed with same car, not even bottom grid drivers
@@er.8213what
@@er.8213 it shows that perez is not good enough to drive a car like the rb19, the cars are the same, but max is more used to the driving style that the rb19 requires
you clearly dont know how F1 works@@er.8213
@@er.8213Checo repeatedly said that he doesn’t like driving with the same sharp front end that Max uses, so probably going back and adopting another driving technique he’s not able to extract the maximum out of the car. But yeah I’m just guessing
Best f1 channel in my opinion. No stupid opinions etc., just very interesting and carefully analyzed facts.
Absolutely agree.
cant disagree with this ive been watching yelistener since the very start
Hands down
Totally agree and happy to be a new subscriber!
Agree 100%
Doesn’t give the team LH crazies a chance to argue the facts
It's like "Schumacher shatters the morale", in Suzuka, too.
Man of culture
nazis the lot
had to look it up, that was sick. im a newer f1 fan so wasnt able to witness the schumacher domination
That's what I thought too when I watched qualy
Newer fans won't understand how sick that was 🐐🐐
Love the table that you added in the bottom left. With the other comparison videos (eg. Australia) it's sometimes hard to compare the different numbers, I have to go back and forth a lot, so this is the perfect solution for presenting the speeds.
I agree
agreed, my short term memory is nonexistent
Vettel once asked Schumacher "is there a certain line you take in the Esses?" Michael said "not really you just go for it". Hope we keep Suzuka forever, proper F1 track
max realy did that. He pushed harder in T5 to sacrificie T6 just as much that he can flat out T7
Exit T7 max was already 2 kph faster than perez. This time adds up until T9.
@@BarbiesBoyfriend93 yeah even in sim racng I love Suzuka, you can just attack the whole lap 🥰
Bro I just watched 50seconds of this video and it’s more interesting and informative then 99% of F1 channels.
You are him! Keep it up
I think its safe to say that max is safely in the top 3 best drivers of all time
I will back you up against the haters.
I've been watching F1 for 30 years and I already consider him the best of all time. The dominance he has is just something I haven't seen before
@@thejonasvanbaelenpodcast really? Even during the dominant schumacher years?
@@thejonasvanbaelenpodcast how? he would've never been able to pull off something like Senna did in Monaco 1984, or Jim Clark in Belgium 1963 or even Hamilton in Silverstone 2008. Those 3 examples are probably the greatest moments in the history of the sport and I don't think Max has something like that
Definitely. Fangio, Senna and Max. I'm a Schumi fan, but he wasn't as dominant as Max is right now. So Schumi #4, Hamilton #5.
Glad somebody did a proper analysis on Verstappen’s pole lap. That was a Vettel or Schumacher level masterclass in the esses and it should be massively praised.
When people talk about driver skill in racing, they usually talk about flashy stuff, like saves from massive slides, or driving a car with massive oversteer and constantly correcting it. While that looks very cool and takes some skill, all professional drivers can do this without even thinking.
In reality, the most impressive driving doesn't look impressive at all. It looks smooth and easy, even though it's faster than everyone else. Just like Max is doing here. The only giveaway of Max's level is Checo's inability to keep up with him.
Super true
Hamilton driving a snappy W15, Meanwhile everyone: "HaMiLtOn WaShED"
@@CTcuber4K Lewis fans blaming the car when nobody even mentioned Lewis: (You are now in the third state of WASHED DENIAL)
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb "when nobody even mentioned lewis" use context clues my guy, it's not hard. I was very clearly referencing the sentence in OPs comment where he said about driving and correcting an oversteery car.
He quite literally said that is where drivers get praised, all I did was mention that it is exactly what Lewis is doing now, and all he gets is hate. Suggesting that perhaps people judge drivers skills based not off the drivers true skill, but merely if they like or dislike said driver.
@@CTcuber4KLewis enjoyed the best car for more than half a decade. Barely any corrections needed. Not anymore, Verstappen is the man to beat now. Accept reality already. The constant moaning and crying by #teamlh is just embarrassing at this point. LH stood atop of everyone for many years, enjoy the good memories and move on.
Honda shouldn't have left RB
Verstappen to stroll will hit hard
Then the engines would not be frozen, but i agree.
@@spinister4357That‘s simply not true. All teams wanted the engine freeze at some point to focus on 2026. The engine freeze simply came a year earlier because of Honda leaving RB.
They won't until the 2026 season
I mean lets be honest.. Its still basically a Honda.. Just not Branded as such.. (Honda is allowing them to keep the design spec) but its marketed as Redbull power.. So it is a honda..
2019 lap was done by seb , who absolutely loves suzuka
His favorite track, hopefully we will see in LeMans
Great skill. Yet the stats don't matter. Ferrari cheated that season 😆
@@DesertEagleDutch They didn't cheat, they found a loophole which was eventually closed. Had they really cheated they would've been disqualified from the championship.
@@hristoitchov F1 and Ferrari struck a confidential deal. Which is very sketchy. While other fines to other teams are out in the open. Anyways... doesn't matter really to me. I'm just enjoying Max's supremacy at the moment 😏
That car looks glued to the racetrack. It's insane how it takes the esses.
Something interesting is also Leclerc's approach to the corner, he sacrifices T5 for a faster T6 and he is a lot faster in that corner than anyone else, even Verstappen.
Lot faster? U mean just 8kph? While VER maintained much higher speed in almost all and only lost 8kph IN T6
@@craz7644 8kph is "a lot" faster in F1. Of course Verstappen was faster through the entire section but not in T6
Your comparing the old cars - it’s apples and oranges
@@craz7644 8kph is a lot faster in F1 terms. It's also better to compare LEC to the rest, too, rather than VER.
Yep and leclerc lose out in T7 because he had to small lift while verstappen and alonso approach make them flat out in T7. Leclerc always has been so aggressive when entering corner while verstappen prioritize exit speed. It's interesting to see them in perfectly equal car. Maybe this weei will be so much interesting
I fuckin love this channel. F1 is all about the details and you can’t really find any in depth videos like these. Thank you!
honestly i think verstappen is gonna smash his own pb and the 2019 t4 - 6 this week!! but I hope ferrari can get there!
Ferrari will be fast in the esses for sure
@@barcafan94 fingers crossed 🤞🤞
Lmao its not just the esses that wins the race lmao, they still have the rest of the track to do. 😂😂😂
@@Car.V1 True but this part is quite interesting
@@barcafan94and merc will be slow lol
Tracks where Verstappen is very good: suzuka, spa, zandvoort and red bull ring
Also Mexico
Silverstone
@@barcafan94 yeah, true
@@slartibartfast2649 you right
@@slartibartfast2649 Except for the pitlane. 🙃
Absolutely love your videos, but in this specific case (as you also mentioned at the end of the video) I think a T7 speed comparison would have been appropriate, as T6 is very much a "setup corner". As you said Alonso and Verstappen were able to go flat-out in T7 because they sacrificed their T6 speed, while Leclerc had to lift substantially because his T6 speed was so high.
Anyway, great content! These ultra-level detail videos are so good!
This was cos Horner said LOOK AT TURN 5… cos at pitwall they saw in their data how he drove that turn and took so much speed with him.
He knows that car, amazing. He approaches turns 3,4,5 with such confidence it‘s almost frightening
That’s insanity. T5 is possibly my favorite corner on the track on sim. In the 2000’s cars you can take a ton of curb and just launch yourself up the hill it’s fun
He just has a smoother line, more centered, still hands, steady throttle and he enjoys the speed.
Max Verstappen, Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are the holy trinity of F1.
Schumacher, Verstappen, Fangio
@@RAZGR1Z Not necessarily in that order though.
Am I the only one absolutely VIBING to the background music??
Very nice video. Commentary would prob be a nice add on for future vids.
max has incredible feel when transitioning between throttle, lift, and brake inputs. his footwork is perfectly synchronized with the tempo of the corner complex. he's also excellent at managing understeer by shifting the load around with the throttle. checo's inputs are so clunky and abrupt in comparison. he arrives to each corner off beat and is forced to play catch up.
This man has done so many underrated and incredible things. People talk about Hamilton’s lap in Singapore ‘18 but forget about laps like this and Monaco ‘23..
only the brainwashed dummies talk about Hamilton pole lap in Singapore still.
There's such little competition and such little at stake given the championships in the bag anyway, that people almost don't pay attention to just how amazing Max is driving. I'm a Max fan but he needs a competitor or another title battle for his legacy. Great performances under pressure like 2021 are what will make people truly appreciate talent.
Thanks for the music
Its funny to see Alonso there with the worst car of all them with difference and still giving them battle, im curious to see strolls one
stroll haven't finished the 1st sector yet
@@sirmounted8499 😂😂😂😂
I love ur channel man
Here's the thing, to get that speed in turn 5, you Must have the speed through turns 2,3,&4. Its all skill (and minimal braking) to accomplish that.
great content!
It’s interesting to watch with the telemetry. The downshift and letting off the accel feels like it loaded the front just enough to get more bite into the last portion of T4 to set up a nice run into T5.
I appreciate the telemetry! I suck at Suzuka, this might help.
Yeah he has so much confidence to hold the finish of T4 a little longer to take a wider angle into T5, the weight transfer is instantaneous, no waiting for the car to settle
you deserve more sub
Verstappens stint looks so peaceful, very under control, very smooth.
It just shows how good that car is. The most dominant car ever. In four races they had three 1-2's. They will beat new records this year on most 1-2's and races won in a row for sure. That car is an absolute beast. Even Checo is able to finish second regularly in it.
@@The_Curious_Cat i might agree, but Verstappen is also by far the best current driver of the grid. No idea how he would have stacked up against for instance Hamilton in his best days, but it is the combination of car and driver that makes it unbeatable.
incredible work keep going
Great video, as always. Verstappen is so impressive. The gap between him and Perez is so big. Watching the onboard we can see Checo is doing more little corrections than Max even though I'm pretty sure Verstappen was carrying more front wing, making the car more reactive but more unstable in the back, more overteering. Imagine what it looked like from Checo's onboard if he was actually driving with Max's setup.
Wooaooo this is where you understand a perfect fit between the man and the car … very interesting
2017-2021 maybe the cars with best perfomance, balanced aero and weight, a powerful engine, don't forget there were a lot of battles in track i.e. Germany 2019, what a race, for me 2022 to nowadays was a step back
Most average verstappen turn
Least insane verstappen turn
What was the time gain in this corner alone?
You're underrated man...
Very hard to compare Max to other drivers from different decades, but he is up there with the best! Many haters say that of course he wins because the car is setup to his liking, but they forget that this setup is the hardest to drive and only the best can do it!
In just T4 and T5 Checo was 27 kph slower than Max, that's at least 4 tenths.
Because checo sucks! Put other top drivers and the time would be much closer.
@@roku_nineNot really,he is a very good driver but he just couldn’t adapt his style to fit the RB19,I don’t think other drivers would have done better
@@chanhkhiemtran9010 he isn't a good driver. Just look at Fernando from 2005-2006 renault days to 2007 with mclaren. Much different cars, much different style. Renault needed quite hard steering mid turn while mclaren he needed to steer the car more smoothly.
@@pietrekk1 yeah,makes sense
best f1 fans content as usual.
Would be interesting to see in 50 hours how much did 3 years of this new reg has improved the cars compare to the previous gen!
Notice how Norris not once touched the brake pedal, he lifted longer. Maybe he could reach Verstappen if he got a little bit more rotation by flicking the brake at corner entry at T5
The grip of this McLaren is crazy !!!
max just trusts the car fully and pushes it to the extreme
limits
Checo in quali already starting to save tires
ThE tYrE wHiSpErEr
Also something to note, about that last run. I can clearly remember there being talk of the team adding more wing onto the front of the car before that last run, because Max was in the pits a little longer. From that, its fair to assume he probably felt he had all the grip in the world and just attacked turns 3-7.
This was when he was out qualified following the Singapore race 😂
Definitely had to redeem himself after that one
Mighty car to perform that speed...
Would’ve been good to have 2023 clip here as well. With the note that it was a headwind in the esses.
Think it would’ve added a little bit because 2023+ headwind is about equal in efficiency to 24 cars+ tailwind.
Just watch his hands, so smooth
Verstappen was so smooth on the wheel too, while Perez was having a lot of minor corrections. To do that with one of the fastest, but also extremely twitchy cars.....unbelievably refined, precise control of car rotation (his feeling for the braking limits, his precision on trail-braking, and his throttle modulation are unmatched) and perfectly tuned setups (courtesy of his hard work and willingness to try everything in simulators).
I do remember since 2017, Hamilton's throttle control was very refined and precise (of course it would be for all drivers but I mean noticeable even relative to other drivers). He was great. But since we saw with the early 2021 Mercedes, he can't handle a twitchy car as well as Verstappen would. His braking is perhaps much more aggressive on entry (I am hypothesizing). Verstappen's refinement is unmatched in that department. In some medium speed corners where it's a partial lift, I can see Hamilton being close to Verstappen in equal cars (and if the setups are appropriately adjusted).
Yep, its been well known that Verstappen is extremely delicate with his throttle control, reason why hes so good in wet conditions.
@@raphaelsantiago9387 this is true
Great video, but it might have been helpful editing-wise to update the speed table as the driver goes through each turn. I watched the whole vid but still don’t know which turn is turn 5.
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This, am American, cannot map
Alonso the only driver with max to go flatout and + with an aston martin
The RB20 did really well. Adrian Newey will win another two titles this year.
Truly crazy, 2341 kmh, oh
Excellent video
and there are people who call verstappen overrated 🤦🏾♂️
Only LH44 fans, not actual people with knowledge about F1.
Maybe because he has the most dominant car ever on his hands, a teammate that is just there to help him and no other team even close. But it's normal. I mean just look at Hamilton. The guy received all kinds of hate just because he was doing his job, just like Max is doing now. And he's still receiving it despite having a bad car now, some people just live with LH44 rent free on their heads.
This year, if it doesn't rain, in the first sector we will probably see the same cornering speeds as 2019; cannot wait to see Q1,Q2 and Q3😃
Itll be much different track conditions since Suzuka is early this year but we will see.
Max knows when and how to hook up that car
I’ve always been curious how the esses of the F1 calendar compare to each other, like Suzuka x COTA x Interlagos
when red bull makes a good car it always shines at suzuka
Hey bro, can you record comparison of AMR23 last year at Suzuka here, and AMR24 ? Because that almost 2 SECONDS difference is....fucking huge haha, AMR23 - 1.30.4 time in Q2, AMR24 - 1.28.6 in Q3
why is your music deafening loud
When you get to verstappens lap and all you're able to mutter is simply: WAAAAAOHW
balls 🔥🔥
Now, it's not because I want to discredit Max's performance and spoil the good mood, not at all.
It only requires basic logical understanding when it comes to a series of slope combinations that speeds do not tell everything.
Although the minimum speed is certainly a good indicator, it does not tell you anything about the total distance traveled from start to finishof the section; Slower speed in a corner CAN in fact result in faster lap times in the end, as it is also about the shortest distance (been there myself, both real track racing 1990s-2010s, besides simracing since mid 80ies).
HOWEVER, all that aside, Max also does the lines to perfection. He remains a tough nut to crack ❤
Holy smokes
If this was the F1 games, people would be screaming Grip Hacks on Max
You have to talk about the car in this equation too. Checo's struggles with the RB19 are well known. It was just too pointy for his liking and the team had to compromise the setup to give him a car he was comfortable with. Max on the other hand was able to exploit the downforce advantage the RB19 had over its competitors. Would a Charles or a Lando be able to drive the RB19 to the same limit that Max was without compromising the setup? We'll never know. We do know that this year the RB20 seems to have even more high speed downforce available, so we might see a similar story this year. Ferrari looks like they have a better overall car but are still lacking the overall downforce of the Red Bull, and McLaren might be close on overall downforce but they lack the efficiency. So I think things will be closer, but still Red Bull has a measurable advantage.
GOAT
How fast was Sainz?
Image he do it again next week. Ugh emotional damage.😂
Most dominant car in history+GOAT candidate driver+GOATed track+yelistener=perfection. PS: Mate, I really like him, but Checo is so mid, slower than most of the drivers in a car that was literally glued to the ground
To get outqualified by a Ferrari in Suzuka, in a track that has all the characteristics the SF-23 struggles with, is embarrassing, even ignoring the 7 tenths to Max.
The RB19 isn‘t even close to being the most dominant car ever. It‘s factually not even top 3 in the last decade based on the pure performance difference between the fastest/2nd fastest car.
@@Reaz399 maybe not performance difference, but 21/22 wins is the highest ever
Had to put Verstappen 2019 too in this one imo
With the previous video about degner, seems like Perez had a lower df setup than Verstappen. Even if the amount of driving skill differs, at this level of driving that doesn't explain the whole difference of speed thrpugh corners.
I hope that the 2026 cars are blistering fast
Imagine the W11 being driven here.
thats some fucking goated content
I find it also interesting that Norris was the only one that didnt brake
I miss me boy Vettel.
You don’t know what setups they were running. No doubt this turn is mighty but he didn’t end up beating Perez’s time by too much
This kinda sums up F1. You need a microscope to find anything interesting about it.
I hate the fact that the brakes bar is either on or off, why cant they show us how much theyre breaking?
I am guessing it's because they use different amount of braking for front and rear and also teams might not want to share that data.
Just guessing anyway.
@pianissimo7121 that's precisely it 👍
@@pianissimo7121 cant we already see that by the adjustments they do on their wheel?
@@werner9643 I dont know. I never paid that much attention. Even if we know their ratio, the teams might not want to give the exact brake force or percentage or whatever.
I am guessing its fine for Accel as its a lot more complicated, since they have battery and engine so 100% might not even be 100%.
This is all just speculation from my end, like I said, I truly don't know anything to give you a exact reason.
Nope, that's just some brake bias adjustments. It still doesn't reveal how much and how long they brake into and out of a turn. Some just stab at the brakes, some of them use trail braking. And teams don't share that data, so, we get the TV graphics as you mentioned.
Concusion:
Checo slow
As impressive as the RB19 was, it will never come close the black beast on rails in the W11 that never got to show it's potential at Suzuka 2020.
Pretty sure it would smash all the high speed sectors. The mid speed sectors the RB19 and RB20 would expect to be more dominant with the shorter wheel base.
So annoying that the fastest F1 car never got to show it's dominance in front of race fans. And at £400million a per car, it's too expensive to run just for fans to see what it's capable of driven in anger.
The Williams was pretty rapid in the higher speed sectors in 2023
Pretty sure the Merc W09 and W10 was quicker in the mid speed but not sure about the high speed.
We will never how Mercedes 2020 W11 Hybrid speeds in those corners !!!
I know someone who was there and they said it was absolutely amazing how fast Max was he was visually much faster than anyone else. And in one corner don’t remember wich he drove a bit different than anybody else so after the very enthusiastic Japanese fans of course noticed that slight difference and everybody was gathered around one spot and were photographing it and it turned out to be a small bump of whatever that he found out if he didn’t hit it with his tyre he would gain a bit and nobody else noticed that until after all those fans noticed he drove it a bit differently. And btw they were photographing it to check if it is the sim aswell.
But u compare also different cars with different performances
It's a long way to the top
It's also a long way to fall down
That was a mighty WhatsApp chat
Every other team "WRITE THAT DOWN" Sector 1 we are slow. How much you want to bet that's what happened especially Mercedes
So why is it that Max goes faster on Turn 5? What makes him be able to turn the corner at that speed vs everyone else?
probably the car and allot of skill
Sometimes the baby lift is the right tool for the job ;)
This is how you know I’d the car more than anything .. that car is on rails … also shows how Checo is an average driver at best.. he’s in the fastest machine going the slowest out of everyone
"Its the car" checo having the same car, yep, its the driver
do only mine ears get fucked up by this music?
Vettel was a beast
So the point being the 2019 cars were better than even Max in 2024?