6:22 "It's not a huge difference but not everything has to make a massive difference it's progress!" I hope you guys remember this for all your new years resolutions and understand that no matter how small the progress is, as long as you keep improving yourself it's enough.
and to be perfectly honest... for the tiny bit of effort, and tiny bit of thermal paste.. 8C is a pretty huge bonus. In the realm of Gpu/Cpu thermals and such thats pretty damn good.
Considering how hot we see this type of memory (sometimes pushing upwards of 106c..) Down in the mid 90s at stock is pretty good and getting it to the mid 80s with the added thermal paste is stellar. Good job Dawid.
LOL what a video, for some reason my mind knew that zip tie air cooler wasnt going to do shit, but my heart wanted it so bad. Dawid, happy new year, excited to watch your channel grow in 2023!
I love the fact that both of us are still strugelling with rtx 3080 high temps! I bought a turbo edition 3080 from gigabytes, I tried AIO cooling with kraken g12 but memory temps were not good, So i just gave up and fixed it by replacing thermal pads and paste, And definitly undervolting
That's pretty much the only way to go unfortunately. Had friends try everything else before finally going "fuck it, gelid pads it is" and the issue was immediately resolved lmao
Found out about you from your talk on Broken Silicon and am glad because this is my favorite kind of tech content. Self proclaimed letting the other channels to the serious stuff and instead exploring the "kinda stupid" things you can play around with is great. Saying "mount" is a bit of a grandiose term had me cracking up, that's exactly the kind of caveat I need to add to descriptions of all my projects.
Hi Dawid! I've been bingewatching your content ever since I saw your Wish computer build! I just wanted to say thanks for giving me the courage and inspiration to finally build my own PC. You took what seemed so complicated to me and made it simple. I even got it to boot first try! I'm looking forward to more of your awesome content!
I was hoping so much from that little heatsink. 😄 For context, I repadded my 3090 Eagle, stuck 8 heatsinks in the back, had a fan exhausting from the open bracket area (angled mount), my H500M case has superb front to back airflow and the VRAM temp was exactly 86c as in your case.
I have one of these cards and if you undervolt it, flash the latest bios from dell which fixes the fan curve, and do the "thermal paste on the vram plate" trick to lower vram temps, it's as good as any other 3080. It's a real 3080 that's built like a tank and it's good.
I'm actually so glad you made this video. Recently I've been wondering how much of a difference slapping a CPU stock cooler onto the backplate of a GPU would make to its cooling. And now I've learned that it does absolutely nothing! Good to know.
I think the issue is thermal transfer between the PCB and backplate, as well as the lack of mounting pressure between the cooler and the backplate. I think something like the Razer Peltier phone cooler with some Honeywell PTM7950 would work really well.
@@matasa7463 I know at least for my GPU the backplate gets REALLY hot under load, so at least for some the thermal transfer isn’t an issue. This also makes sense, because shining a flashlight between the PCB and backplate reveals a sizable thermal pad. More likely the issue is mounting pressure, since there’s only so much one can do to apply pressure when it wasn’t intended.
One of the most best RUclipsrs if you want to see a person screw around with a 3080 maybe even one of the 40 series in the future this is the best channel to go to… in a certain point of view.
"Going to do extreme cooling to bring the temps down" 30 mins latah "and the results are exactly the same. Well thanks for watching" LMAO love it Dawid
I know this is an old video but I recently got my hands on this exact model and instead of thermal paste on the mid plate i used K5 Pro thermal putty. Memory temps are now 78c which is 3c above my hotspot of 75c and hotspot is exactly 10c over core of 65c on an open test bench under full sustained load after fully heat soaking the cooler.
I just picked one up myself for $285us and was wondering the same about using k5 pro. I'm probably going to use k5 pro on the plate and ptm7950 on the GPU die.
COPPER SHIMMMMMMMM (between cooler and plate) Definitely the way to go. I did this on an old Nvidia Ion powered netbook many moons ago and the difference of 0.2mm between the shims I tested made several degrees difference. Plus you can thermal paste the shim in to the right position and clean up the residue. Mounting pressure should keep it in place
That smoothness you were talking about is probably the blessing of GamersNexus Steve (aka Tech Jesus) coming down upon you for improving a Dell product. ;)
Dawid, You should have let the old thermal past dry out, chopped it up and snorted it for a more "chill" experience. Dell is the the most "slap happy" applicant of viable products on the market. I say this as an owner of various Dell "products" (aka: trash) that are still reviewed as "great". YOU are are a champion of hope! A beacon (not bacon) of reality of what is and what is not. As opposed to alternate realities IRL. For that virtue, I wish you the best of Holiday Seasons and Happy New Year.
Recently i slapped 3 CPU coolers to an stone old HD4830 1GB + another fan to overclock it to the max. (its my only card right now sadly) and it worked wonders!! Way higher OC and "only" 75 degrees when really pushing it for a long time. I just bought an r9 280x and a gtx 970 4gb yesterday and both will get a similar treatment! :D I plan on watercooling both with a cheap cpu watercooler and also i will place copper coolers and fans on it. They will be beautiful. :D
I saw a page where you can buy copper plates as a replacement for thermal pads on the memory chips. This brings Temps down from like 90°c to around 60°c.
I've seen this before. While it reduces temps on the memory, the shims are so effective at transferring heat into the heatsink that it unintentionally also increases the heat of the gpu directly as the heatsink is already saturated from the memory. Not saying it's not effective but it's not a clean reduction of 30 degrees as mentioned
I used thermal paste in place on putty on my 3090 and it ran a bit cooler, I didn’t have putty, didn’t even know what the heck it was, assumed it was thermal grease
I haven't finished watching, but I will say that K5 PRO would be a great substitute for thermal pads in a case like this. Consider something like that in the future. Works great for my GPU and motherboard water blocks.
@@abhinavkumar4063 Yep I only found out about it because of Alex's video on LTT. It convinced me to give it a shot, and I've been pleased with the sustained performance of it so far. Messy? Sure, but I don't mind a little bit of mess.
Instead of putting the thermal paste on the heatsink and putting it on, its better to put thermal paste on the individual VRMs and then let the cooler spread it out, much like you would on a CPU. I had to do the same on my MSI laptop. For some reason they used a thermal compound instead of thermal pads so I didn't know which height thermal pads I had to use. So I just put a spot of thermal paste on each and whacked the cooler on. Its only reeeaally good.
@@riannair7101 Not really, it'll take roughly the same time to dry out as the CPU/GPU's thermal paste to dry out which means by the time I repaste it doesn't matter much. Its just a bit longer cleaning.
@@ADunleavy if contact pressure between thermal paste and radiators are poor (that is be the case) guess what is happen...Fast Dry , is like you leave thermal paste on direct contact with air. You dont need faculty to observe that!😉😉
@@ADunleavy Depends with what thermal paste you use (type gel thermal paste is more resiliant to dry in contact with air than one (thick) with very high viscosity(thermal grizzly kryonaut for example). BTW not need be mad for entire Earth not gravitate around you !😁
the next step after ziptying the cooler to the back would be to DIY a bracket to hold it there. But yeah, where are fancy backplates with fins. Could work well as visual thing and as cooler.
Adding heatsinks and fans to the backplate doesn't work. I've seen several other times when people tried it during researching this card, and really all that matters is the core and vram temps are good. The backplate getting hot doesn't hurt anything.
Next time try to put the back cooler on the rear side where that memory heat pipe is and its better to use a full flat one like in old gpus instead of your with a center puck.. anyway always fun to watch these experiments
LOL I love how, at approx 6:05, you said "subjectively" while almost simultaneously on the screen (in game) it said "OBJECTIVE E TAKEN". It's like the game is arguing with you that you're not being subjective!
Glad to see, I mean hear, that the pronunciation of "tiddy-80" is back, it's gonna be a good year 😉 Aaaaand if I ever tried to disassemble a tiddy-series card (did once to a GTX 970 and all was fine) I'd be sweating thermal paste... I mean everything I've read states that if you rip the factory thermal pads and need to replace, they need to be the exact same thickness etc... I'd get it ALL WRONG, temps would soar and I'd brick my card 🤣
I did something weird but it kinda worked for me, But it was not a great idea I bought some aluminum waterblocks from aliexpress and ziptie them to the front and the back of gpu and made a watercooling loop, The temps droped by 10C but it was not worth it So i guess the best way to cool it is to get a gpu waterblock
I have not yet seen the video. I just want to say that you are absolutely ridiculous and I love you for it. Very excited to see how you will adjust to the new YT policy on swearing. I am confident you will come up with a very Dawidian way to circumvent it. Happy new year to you.
Again, this is the most tech gangster thing, in true David style. The crazy thying is, not too long ago, folks bought these alienware machines just to get and flip the cards in them. A dell branded 3080, what a scary thought.
I am soooooooooo disappointed that this didn't improve the Temps. I(like Dawid) am obsessed with lowering Temps. I would have bet money this was going to help. Don't give up my dude. Keep chasing lower temps!
Is it only me that wants a cooler like this in retail gpus as well? I mean it does not have a million rgbs on or useless crap like "game on" written all over it. And nice temps too.
yeah rgb now is so stupid and expensive af i dont have any rgb in my pc i rather have performance than flashy lights that dont do anything but empty my wallet not to mention the pain in the ars cables and rgb controlers
I bought a HSF designed for backplate cooling for my 3090 and it definitely made a difference. I can see why it wouldn't make a big difference for a 3080 due to the lack of rear memory chips. Regardless, it's crazy how hot the backplate can get, even with the HSF added.
I wish I knew these existed a year back. I used to simply put a fan ontop of my 3090 in the "pull" position and this kept the memory temps from going over 88 when I was mining with it. It was an NZXT fan meant for a radiator.
I use a dual GPU set up with an Intel Arc A770 and 2080Ti in my work rig, I just simply put 2 120mm fans on top of both GPUs as exhaust fans(A770 is mounted on the mobo while 2080Ti is vertically mounted, they have a slanted angle in between), so that even when using 390W, my 2080Ti never gets over 67C, and when A770 uses 223W, it never gets over 75C. I think extra fans do help with temps, just when they are put in the correct locations.
is it better to use thermal pads that are a bit thin instead of that thermal paste you did? ngl it looks okay but i think the pads will cover more and make less of a mess. but that is very intresting result.
If I'm not mistaken those Dell and Acer RTX 3080s are a slightly modified Zotac design. Mine is from an Acer prebuilt Predator desktop and has this same issue and the thermal paste between the frame and the vapor chamber indeed helped a lot.
Haha good memories putting thermal paste onto 4 old heatsinks (2 cpu ones and 2 motherboard little ones) I had kicking around and putting them on the backplate of my 3080 which I'd swapped thermal pads on. Great video!
The thermal pad replacement that you could use is the Upsiren U6 pro, it's a thermal putty that can be reused and be molded like clay. So you'll need to do the pressure test onto the vram chips directly first to see if it makes contact for all vrams, then apply another thinner layer above the plate where you applied thermal compound with. Once both of them have contact, what you'll use next is KPX onto the gpu die. You can over compensate the gpu die by applying all over it either 0.5mm or 1mm in thickness to ensure that any kind of airgaps will be filled out and will help out maximizing the heat transfer for both the vrams and gpu die. *don't do the guides with copper shims, it's kinda a risky mod to do since it may damage the solder balls (it may crack, cause bridges/shorts, ripped pads etc) under the vrams if excessive pressure is applied onto it with the wrong thickness of the copper shim. As for the thermal putty it's a safer alternative as it will spread/stretch if excessive pressure is applied onto it. What you can also do is to apply kapton tape or Scotch Super 33+ electrical tape onto the capacitors surrounding the GPU die so that the capacitors won't be in contact with KPX incase that it spills over if too much is applied and less hassle for cleanups.
Dawid, do you remember what thickness thermal pads you used? Really glad I watched this video, thermal paste on the plate was brilliant, great idea! I just got one of these.
Seen people do that back in the day with LGA1366 systems. Basically adding more cooling to the back of the motherboard behind the CPU socket. And yes, not connected backplates and those of plastic not only don't help mut sometimes make things worse by isolating. Metal ones with proper contact are basically heatsinks and fulfill the best function any plate could do.
Turn the back fan on your PC case to intake instead of exhaust.. I do this for everyone that has a 240mm RAD AIO CPU cooler and they get lower temps, a constant feed of outside air to the RAD. It would have at least fed your homemade cooler with fan get more outside airflow, no idea if it would have done much for you though.
The #1 thing you should do to reduce memory temps, is to remove those stickers that are in the way. Paper really sucks at thermal transfer. Then possibly sand the paint off too, get metal to metal and then use paste between the cooler and mid plate.
What i would recommend next time is to heat the card up, the thermal pads are more loose then aswell and if needed, use some isopropyl because it loosens the stickiness up. There is a small potential you could damage the components by forcibly removing the parts connected with the pads.
@@Gatorade69 Just use a hair drier, you don't need to overheat it, just enough for the "glue" on the pads to let go. Or game on it for a bit, let it heat up that way.
LOL I did a similar cooling "MOD" on my old MSI 970 motherboard to allow for easier overclocking of the 8370 that surely shouldnt really have been in that board. It was JENKY as hell, but all these years later that PC is still my Home theatre pc and to be honest, i never thought to remove all the overclocking settings, so that fan is still doing its job.
I have that crappy dell 3080. I used a whole tube of artic thermal oaste You could also put copper shims between the thermal pads on the back of the pcb and the back plate then used themal paste between the plate and the thermal pads. And i added small heat sinks on top of the back plate where the vram was located I went from 101c memory temps to 90c.
first would be checking if the backplate even get so hot. if u can hold ur hand on it it wont make a big difference. second you need to solder that heatsink to the backplate to have real effect. and i think just better airflow in the case would do the trick.
It probably couldn't do much because it was trying to get the heat from through the PCB, then through the back plate and over to the side (not the heat pipe side) and it just didn't cool much, even if the fan was going really fast. I once had a fan strapped straight to the back plate (no heat sink) and it helped lower VRM temps a bit, but it wasn't worth the hassle
you probably needed more thermal paste. But you should really just get some 0.5 or 0.2mm thermal pads as they will much better spread pressure. I would also advise on better thermal pads between back of the board and backplate, but you'll have a harder time finding over 2mm pads than the 0.2mm, as that looks like 2.5mm or more (you can always stack them). My EVGA 3080 XC3 benefitted a lot from the most basic pads stacked on top of each other (it had none from factory), and its backplate doesn't even have a heat pipe like this card does.
Another awesomesauce video Dawid!! Your 30 MMinutes later slides had me keep thinking they referred to the thickness of the thermal putty. Doesn't matter, I honestly thought the last heat sink would have worked after an hour or gameplay. It would have time to transfer into that hunk of metal. What if you just mounted 25MM thick fans to that backplate? Maybe see a heat reduction.
I've seen other fan mods for the backplate and nothing helps the backplate temps. As long as the core and vram temps are good that's all that matters anyway. Just don't touch it while gaming.
funnily enough this is basically what EVGA did on my 1080 Ti Hybrid, there's thermal paste on the copper plate covering the memory and the water block makes contact with the paste
I completely covered my 3080 backplate with 3D printer stepper drive heatsinks, glued with the cheap white "thermal putty" glue, dropped memory temps from throttling (110C?) into the 90's
That vapor chamber and heat sink look great, I would deshroud it and use bigger fans and try to let the heat sink show. Like others say you could use copper shims but I'm thinking you could just use aluminum, like from a cut up coke can?
I actually managed to get my mem temps down to the same temperature as the GPU core. Which mean that I’m normally seeing a memory temp of around 45-46°. In some rare use cases they deviate from each other by 1-2° max. I know this is an unfair comparison but I really need to brag about the mem temps I managed to get with a homebrewed thermalpadpaste. It’s just Alphacools 14w/mk 1mm thermal pad mixed with high viscosity silicone oil. Granted I’m also using an Aquacomputer waterblock which naturally does the most of the work. However I haven’t read or heard of anyone getting the mem temps down to the exact same temp as the GPU core. I got an Asus ROG Strix OC 3080 shuntmodded to remove the power limit.
This looks like a reference PCB so you could try the Alphacool eiswolf 2 . GPU aftermarket AIOs deserve some exposure. Would love to see more Companies manufacture GPU AIOs.
Only Dawid can make a video where literally nothing changes by the end, yet I’m not even mad. The experience was worth it 😁👌
not only that, but the non-problem continues to be a non-problem.
well it is Dell, why or how could things even change xD
Only Dawid can find non existent problem and create a solution only to fail it miserably 😂
@@user-rn9bo8io1e Maybe I missed that part. The end said it’s the same, I probably misunderstood haha still worth watching anyway 🤷♂️
@@brando3342 bruh did you just skip the video to the last 20 seconds lmao
Found your channel about 3 days ago and have been binge watching ever since. How did I miss this honest tech channel for so long? Great stuff.
This is kinda what I did about a year ago! And I do not miss a vid ever since!
Click the bell and enjoy 😎
What I Love about the Channel is the approach to do Things differently. Not the 0815 reviews you see everywhere!
@@t3amb4sh I keep telling myself "just one more" and then its 3 hours later.
These types of videos are the reason I love Dawid so much. They are entertaining. We also might learn something at the same time.
But! We also might'nt!
I love the silly random videos like this! Your channel is unique and amazing!
There is nothing better than seeing how Dawid squeezes the WORST tech to its limit!
6:22 "It's not a huge difference but not everything has to make a massive difference it's progress!"
I hope you guys remember this for all your new years resolutions and understand that no matter how small the progress is, as long as you keep improving yourself it's enough.
and to be perfectly honest... for the tiny bit of effort, and tiny bit of thermal paste.. 8C is a pretty huge bonus. In the realm of Gpu/Cpu thermals and such thats pretty damn good.
We just have keep moving forward...
accepting mediocrity is still mediocre, even if you're ok with it
Considering how hot we see this type of memory (sometimes pushing upwards of 106c..) Down in the mid 90s at stock is pretty good and getting it to the mid 80s with the added thermal paste is stellar. Good job Dawid.
I cool back plates too, only I just point a 140mm fan at it, works great
LOL what a video, for some reason my mind knew that zip tie air cooler wasnt going to do shit, but my heart wanted it so bad. Dawid, happy new year, excited to watch your channel grow in 2023!
I love the fact that both of us are still strugelling with rtx 3080 high temps!
I bought a turbo edition 3080 from gigabytes, I tried AIO cooling with kraken g12 but memory temps were not good, So i just gave up and fixed it by replacing thermal pads and paste, And definitly undervolting
That's pretty much the only way to go unfortunately. Had friends try everything else before finally going "fuck it, gelid pads it is" and the issue was immediately resolved lmao
Found out about you from your talk on Broken Silicon and am glad because this is my favorite kind of tech content. Self proclaimed letting the other channels to the serious stuff and instead exploring the "kinda stupid" things you can play around with is great. Saying "mount" is a bit of a grandiose term had me cracking up, that's exactly the kind of caveat I need to add to descriptions of all my projects.
Hi Dawid! I've been bingewatching your content ever since I saw your Wish computer build! I just wanted to say thanks for giving me the courage and inspiration to finally build my own PC. You took what seemed so complicated to me and made it simple. I even got it to boot first try! I'm looking forward to more of your awesome content!
same i found him 2 days before my pc build almost a year ago
I am always amazed how quickly your videos come to an end.
I love how you left enough of the cut zip tie end to make sure the wounds it inflicts are as deep as possible.
Big D., I'm SOOOOOO glad you do all of this crazy crap so I don't have to. Happy New Year to you and to all...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by far the most entertaining person on youtube. honestly your videos make my day
my boy doing gods work
I was hoping so much from that little heatsink. 😄
For context, I repadded my 3090 Eagle, stuck 8 heatsinks in the back, had a fan exhausting from the open bracket area (angled mount), my H500M case has superb front to back airflow and the VRAM temp was exactly 86c as in your case.
I have one of these cards and if you undervolt it, flash the latest bios from dell which fixes the fan curve, and do the "thermal paste on the vram plate" trick to lower vram temps, it's as good as any other 3080. It's a real 3080 that's built like a tank and it's good.
Made my Holidays! A Dawid video wrapped in a bow!
I'm actually so glad you made this video. Recently I've been wondering how much of a difference slapping a CPU stock cooler onto the backplate of a GPU would make to its cooling. And now I've learned that it does absolutely nothing! Good to know.
I think the issue is thermal transfer between the PCB and backplate, as well as the lack of mounting pressure between the cooler and the backplate.
I think something like the Razer Peltier phone cooler with some Honeywell PTM7950 would work really well.
@@matasa7463 I know at least for my GPU the backplate gets REALLY hot under load, so at least for some the thermal transfer isn’t an issue. This also makes sense, because shining a flashlight between the PCB and backplate reveals a sizable thermal pad. More likely the issue is mounting pressure, since there’s only so much one can do to apply pressure when it wasn’t intended.
One of the most best RUclipsrs if you want to see a person screw around with a 3080 maybe even one of the 40 series in the future this is the best channel to go to… in a certain point of view.
"Going to do extreme cooling to bring the temps down" 30 mins latah "and the results are exactly the same. Well thanks for watching" LMAO love it Dawid
I know this is an old video but I recently got my hands on this exact model and instead of thermal paste on the mid plate i used K5 Pro thermal putty. Memory temps are now 78c which is 3c above my hotspot of 75c and hotspot is exactly 10c over core of 65c on an open test bench under full sustained load after fully heat soaking the cooler.
I just picked one up myself for $285us and was wondering the same about using k5 pro. I'm probably going to use k5 pro on the plate and ptm7950 on the GPU die.
The guy could make a video about putting thermal paste on his shoe laces, I'd still watch. He's just a fun watch, always.
Correct me if I'm wrong the little heatsink he used didn't do anything because he removed the thermals between the backplate and gpu.
yeah. i think he never changed that thermal pad that he destroyed. but not sure if he removed that backplate thermal pad.
impressive that they have a heatpipe on the backplate. no other company did that for the 30 series cards
I have one of these and I love it. Many people think OEM always suck, but honestly this design is pretty cool.
I kept watching dawid contents and learn nothing but I do love them
COPPER SHIMMMMMMMM
(between cooler and plate)
Definitely the way to go. I did this on an old Nvidia Ion powered netbook many moons ago and the difference of 0.2mm between the shims I tested made several degrees difference. Plus you can thermal paste the shim in to the right position and clean up the residue. Mounting pressure should keep it in place
Not a bad idea at all if you can get your hands on the stuff and/or are crafty enough to make it
This 100% you can find them on Amazon and I still have some. Copper Shims do work in the right circumstances.
That smoothness you were talking about is probably the blessing of GamersNexus Steve (aka Tech Jesus) coming down upon you for improving a Dell product. ;)
Happy new year's from Oz everyone
can agree
Fellow Aussies
I subscribed when you made the joke about little progress with 8 degrees, I like the 80's jazzercise music at 7:00
an interesting video to watch before the upcoming new year
also, happy new year chat
Dawid,
You should have let the old thermal past dry out, chopped it up and snorted it for a more "chill" experience. Dell is the the most "slap happy" applicant of viable products on the market. I say this as an owner of various Dell "products" (aka: trash) that are still reviewed as "great".
YOU are are a champion of hope! A beacon (not bacon) of reality of what is and what is not. As opposed to alternate realities IRL.
For that virtue, I wish you the best of Holiday Seasons and Happy New Year.
Recently i slapped 3 CPU coolers to an stone old HD4830 1GB + another fan to overclock it to the max. (its my only card right now sadly) and it worked wonders!! Way higher OC and "only" 75 degrees when really pushing it for a long time.
I just bought an r9 280x and a gtx 970 4gb yesterday and both will get a similar treatment! :D I plan on watercooling both with a cheap cpu watercooler and also i will place copper coolers and fans on it. They will be beautiful. :D
this card(stock) looks so good. its just so clean looking
I saw a page where you can buy copper plates as a replacement for thermal pads on the memory chips. This brings Temps down from like 90°c to around 60°c.
citation for a 30oC reduction or bs.
@@BenState no i saw a proof of the concept but used on a strix model where the cooler directly touches the thermal pads. it´s legit
I've seen this before. While it reduces temps on the memory, the shims are so effective at transferring heat into the heatsink that it unintentionally also increases the heat of the gpu directly as the heatsink is already saturated from the memory. Not saying it's not effective but it's not a clean reduction of 30 degrees as mentioned
I used thermal paste in place on putty on my 3090 and it ran a bit cooler, I didn’t have putty, didn’t even know what the heck it was, assumed it was thermal grease
more entertaining than LTT this week, nice going Dawid!
Lol this is why i watch this channel to see goofy ass mods like this, keep up the good work Dawid.
Happy New Year Dawid & Anna!!!!
I haven't finished watching, but I will say that K5 PRO would be a great substitute for thermal pads in a case like this. Consider something like that in the future. Works great for my GPU and motherboard water blocks.
i was thinking the same thing. K5 Pro, but its pretty messy and difficult to remove when its time to do GPU maintenance.
Yeah... Linus also made a video about it...i think
@@abhinavkumar4063 Yep I only found out about it because of Alex's video on LTT. It convinced me to give it a shot, and I've been pleased with the sustained performance of it so far. Messy? Sure, but I don't mind a little bit of mess.
These are all things we need to know! At least someone with a camera tried it.
Instead of putting the thermal paste on the heatsink and putting it on, its better to put thermal paste on the individual VRMs and then let the cooler spread it out, much like you would on a CPU.
I had to do the same on my MSI laptop. For some reason they used a thermal compound instead of thermal pads so I didn't know which height thermal pads I had to use. So I just put a spot of thermal paste on each and whacked the cooler on. Its only reeeaally good.
Thermal paste will dry soon ,that is exactly motive to put good thermal pads over memory gpus!
@@riannair7101 Not really, it'll take roughly the same time to dry out as the CPU/GPU's thermal paste to dry out which means by the time I repaste it doesn't matter much. Its just a bit longer cleaning.
@@ADunleavy if contact pressure between thermal paste and radiators are poor (that is be the case) guess what is happen...Fast Dry , is like you leave thermal paste on direct contact with air. You dont need faculty to observe that!😉😉
@@riannair7101 I literally opened it a couple of days ago and its completely fine. I repasted 2 years ago. So no, its not a fucking issue.
@@ADunleavy Depends with what thermal paste you use (type gel thermal paste is more resiliant to dry in contact with air than one (thick) with very high viscosity(thermal grizzly kryonaut for example).
BTW not need be mad for entire Earth not gravitate around you !😁
I was searching this last night out of interest and now this spooky
Thanks, Happy New year!!! my favorite U-tube channel!
This is some quality Dawid content.
the next step after ziptying the cooler to the back would be to DIY a bracket to hold it there.
But yeah, where are fancy backplates with fins. Could work well as visual thing and as cooler.
Adding heatsinks and fans to the backplate doesn't work. I've seen several other times when people tried it during researching this card, and really all that matters is the core and vram temps are good. The backplate getting hot doesn't hurt anything.
Next time try to put the back cooler on the rear side where that memory heat pipe is and its better to use a full flat one like in old gpus instead of your with a center puck.. anyway always fun to watch these experiments
today we are going to poke some of it's holes🤣😂🤣
LOL I love how, at approx 6:05, you said "subjectively" while almost simultaneously on the screen (in game) it said "OBJECTIVE E TAKEN". It's like the game is arguing with you that you're not being subjective!
Glad to see, I mean hear, that the pronunciation of "tiddy-80" is back, it's gonna be a good year 😉
Aaaaand if I ever tried to disassemble a tiddy-series card (did once to a GTX 970 and all was fine) I'd be sweating thermal paste... I mean everything I've read states that if you rip the factory thermal pads and need to replace, they need to be the exact same thickness etc... I'd get it ALL WRONG, temps would soar and I'd brick my card 🤣
I did something weird but it kinda worked for me, But it was not a great idea
I bought some aluminum waterblocks from aliexpress and ziptie them to the front and the back of gpu and made a watercooling loop, The temps droped by 10C but it was not worth it
So i guess the best way to cool it is to get a gpu waterblock
I have not yet seen the video. I just want to say that you are absolutely ridiculous and I love you for it. Very excited to see how you will adjust to the new YT policy on swearing. I am confident you will come up with a very Dawidian way to circumvent it. Happy new year to you.
Again, this is the most tech gangster thing, in true David style.
The crazy thying is, not too long ago, folks bought these alienware machines just to get and flip the cards in them. A dell branded 3080, what a scary thought.
I am soooooooooo disappointed that this didn't improve the Temps. I(like Dawid) am obsessed with lowering Temps. I would have bet money this was going to help.
Don't give up my dude. Keep chasing lower temps!
I have to hand it to you Dawid, You are entertaining.
Is it only me that wants a cooler like this in retail gpus as well? I mean it does not have a million rgbs on or useless crap like "game on" written all over it. And nice temps too.
It has a bright white GEFORCE RTX light but you can unplug it like I did.
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Well, that isn't exactly RGB to begin with, compared to everything else
yeah rgb now is so stupid and expensive af i dont have any rgb in my pc i rather have performance than flashy lights that dont do anything but empty my wallet not to mention the pain in the ars cables and rgb controlers
I bought a HSF designed for backplate cooling for my 3090 and it definitely made a difference. I can see why it wouldn't make a big difference for a 3080 due to the lack of rear memory chips. Regardless, it's crazy how hot the backplate can get, even with the HSF added.
I wish I knew these existed a year back. I used to simply put a fan ontop of my 3090 in the "pull" position and this kept the memory temps from going over 88 when I was mining with it. It was an NZXT fan meant for a radiator.
In this video Dawid fills all the holes and crevices of this Ailienware 3080 with his paste.
I use a dual GPU set up with an Intel Arc A770 and 2080Ti in my work rig, I just simply put 2 120mm fans on top of both GPUs as exhaust fans(A770 is mounted on the mobo while 2080Ti is vertically mounted, they have a slanted angle in between), so that even when using 390W, my 2080Ti never gets over 67C, and when A770 uses 223W, it never gets over 75C. I think extra fans do help with temps, just when they are put in the correct locations.
Amazing what a little thermal paste in the right place can do.
is it better to use thermal pads that are a bit thin instead of that thermal paste you did? ngl it looks okay but i think the pads will cover more and make less of a mess. but that is very intresting result.
If I'm not mistaken those Dell and Acer RTX 3080s are a slightly modified Zotac design. Mine is from an Acer prebuilt Predator desktop and has this same issue and the thermal paste between the frame and the vapor chamber indeed helped a lot.
I just love your videos! And while those temp differences may not have been huge I would call that a success in the end.
Haha good memories putting thermal paste onto 4 old heatsinks (2 cpu ones and 2 motherboard little ones) I had kicking around and putting them on the backplate of my 3080 which I'd swapped thermal pads on. Great video!
I love your videos and to be honest you are my favorite RUclipsr. Wish you a happy new year !
The thermal pad replacement that you could use is the Upsiren U6 pro, it's a thermal putty that can be reused and be molded like clay. So you'll need to do the pressure test onto the vram chips directly first to see if it makes contact for all vrams, then apply another thinner layer above the plate where you applied thermal compound with. Once both of them have contact, what you'll use next is KPX onto the gpu die. You can over compensate the gpu die by applying all over it either 0.5mm or 1mm in thickness to ensure that any kind of airgaps will be filled out and will help out maximizing the heat transfer for both the vrams and gpu die.
*don't do the guides with copper shims, it's kinda a risky mod to do since it may damage the solder balls (it may crack, cause bridges/shorts, ripped pads etc) under the vrams if excessive pressure is applied onto it with the wrong thickness of the copper shim. As for the thermal putty it's a safer alternative as it will spread/stretch if excessive pressure is applied onto it.
What you can also do is to apply kapton tape or Scotch Super 33+ electrical tape onto the capacitors surrounding the GPU die so that the capacitors won't be in contact with KPX incase that it spills over if too much is applied and less hassle for cleanups.
Dawid, do you remember what thickness thermal pads you used? Really glad I watched this video, thermal paste on the plate was brilliant, great idea! I just got one of these.
Keep doing another experiment 😂
That's why I subscribed this channel
Good old Dawid doing what we won't
Seen people do that back in the day with LGA1366 systems. Basically adding more cooling to the back of the motherboard behind the CPU socket.
And yes, not connected backplates and those of plastic not only don't help mut sometimes make things worse by isolating. Metal ones with proper contact are basically heatsinks and fulfill the best function any plate could do.
I removed a plastic backplate off my Gigabyte GPU (never again I'm getting a Gigatrash)
Turn the back fan on your PC case to intake instead of exhaust..
I do this for everyone that has a 240mm RAD AIO CPU cooler and they get lower temps, a constant feed of outside air to the RAD.
It would have at least fed your homemade cooler with fan get more outside airflow, no idea if it would have done much for you though.
The #1 thing you should do to reduce memory temps, is to remove those stickers that are in the way. Paper really sucks at thermal transfer.
Then possibly sand the paint off too, get metal to metal and then use paste between the cooler and mid plate.
6:26 In the realm of thermal performance in Gpu stuff, 8 C is a pretty HUGE difference for a itty bitty TINY bit of thermal paste.
What i would recommend next time is to heat the card up, the thermal pads are more loose then aswell and if needed, use some isopropyl because it loosens the stickiness up. There is a small potential you could damage the components by forcibly removing the parts connected with the pads.
What's the best way to heat it up ? The microwave ?
@@Gatorade69 a heat gun, using a microwave would be a fun way to see sparks, though!
@@KagoK Haha. Yeah I know I was just joking... Everyone knows to use the oven instead :) Also seems like RUclips removed your comment :(
@@Gatorade69 Just use a hair drier, you don't need to overheat it, just enough for the "glue" on the pads to let go.
Or game on it for a bit, let it heat up that way.
Though the thumbnail was a boat for a second..
It's content like this that made me subscribe, sure some of the videos may not fix issues but they are fun to watch
You Could Use A Pure Copper Backplate or a Backplate Coppercooler for paste in between try thermal grizzly extreme the pink stuff and be minde blown
LOL I did a similar cooling "MOD" on my old MSI 970 motherboard to allow for easier overclocking of the 8370 that surely shouldnt really have been in that board. It was JENKY as hell, but all these years later that PC is still my Home theatre pc and to be honest, i never thought to remove all the overclocking settings, so that fan is still doing its job.
Just to confirm, my MOD actually made a difference and cooled the northbridge heatsink.
Happy new year, Dawid!
this actually happened to me once, and i still miss Timmy
I have that crappy dell 3080. I used a whole tube of artic thermal oaste You could also put copper shims between the thermal pads on the back of the pcb and the back plate then used themal paste between the plate and the thermal pads. And i added small heat sinks on top of the back plate where the vram was located I went from 101c memory temps to 90c.
first would be checking if the backplate even get so hot. if u can hold ur hand on it it wont make a big difference. second you need to solder that heatsink to the backplate to have real effect. and i think just better airflow in the case would do the trick.
Interesting test, I would have thought the fan would have made some difference!
It probably couldn't do much because it was trying to get the heat from through the PCB, then through the back plate and over to the side (not the heat pipe side) and it just didn't cool much, even if the fan was going really fast.
I once had a fan strapped straight to the back plate (no heat sink) and it helped lower VRM temps a bit, but it wasn't worth the hassle
you probably needed more thermal paste. But you should really just get some 0.5 or 0.2mm thermal pads as they will much better spread pressure. I would also advise on better thermal pads between back of the board and backplate, but you'll have a harder time finding over 2mm pads than the 0.2mm, as that looks like 2.5mm or more (you can always stack them). My EVGA 3080 XC3 benefitted a lot from the most basic pads stacked on top of each other (it had none from factory), and its backplate doesn't even have a heat pipe like this card does.
Wasn't putting a fan on the back of thr gpu a decent idea for the 3090 since it also had ram chips on thr back?
Another awesomesauce video Dawid!!
Your 30 MMinutes later slides had me keep thinking they referred to the thickness of the thermal putty.
Doesn't matter, I honestly thought the last heat sink would have worked after an hour or gameplay. It would have time to transfer into that hunk of metal.
What if you just mounted 25MM thick fans to that backplate? Maybe see a heat reduction.
I've seen other fan mods for the backplate and nothing helps the backplate temps. As long as the core and vram temps are good that's all that matters anyway. Just don't touch it while gaming.
@@pf100andahalf But wait, maybe if I get my mouth close and blow.... DAMN!!!
Dawid! You should have flipped the fan to see if pulling hot air from the backplate would make a difference!
It would have been a difference of like 1 degree lol
As always, thanks for the smiles!
Runs surprisingly cool for such an anemic cooler
It's actually not a bad cooler whatsoever. It's one thing dell actually gets somewhat right.
funnily enough this is basically what EVGA did on my 1080 Ti Hybrid, there's thermal paste on the copper plate covering the memory and the water block makes contact with the paste
I completely covered my 3080 backplate with 3D printer stepper drive heatsinks, glued with the cheap white "thermal putty" glue, dropped memory temps from throttling (110C?) into the 90's
You had me at the thumbnail 😆
Love stuff like this i just find the tinkering around with hardware like this interesting
That vapor chamber and heat sink look great, I would deshroud it and use bigger fans and try to let the heat sink show.
Like others say you could use copper shims but I'm thinking you could just use aluminum, like from a cut up coke can?
I actually managed to get my mem temps down to the same temperature as the GPU core. Which mean that I’m normally seeing a memory temp of around 45-46°. In some rare use cases they deviate from each other by 1-2° max. I know this is an unfair comparison but I really need to brag about the mem temps I managed to get with a homebrewed thermalpadpaste. It’s just Alphacools 14w/mk 1mm thermal pad mixed with high viscosity silicone oil. Granted I’m also using an Aquacomputer waterblock which naturally does the most of the work. However I haven’t read or heard of anyone getting the mem temps down to the exact same temp as the GPU core. I got an Asus ROG Strix OC 3080 shuntmodded to remove the power limit.
This GPU will prove it self on the fury road.
This looks like a reference PCB so you could try the Alphacool eiswolf 2 . GPU aftermarket AIOs deserve some exposure. Would love to see more Companies manufacture GPU AIOs.
I watch every video Dawid releases with Nvidia 30 series simply to hear him say thudee
I mean, 10% temp drop from stock with just a little bit of thermal paste is well worth it IMO!