How scammers can take deed to your home without you knowing
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024
- With a couple of fake signatures and documents, a scammer can transfer the title to your home. Here's how you can protect yourself from the title transfer trap. Full story: abc7.com/post/...
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It's amazing how easy it is for the scammers to take claim of your property but when but when it comes down to the owner claiming your own property you need a lawyer.
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It's almost like the system is designed to screw law abiding citizens...
It's disgusting 😡
That's the government for you. It's always your job to do their job. But if it's something they want from you they take it. Don't owe them money they'll take everything but if they owe money they'll get it to you when they get it to you.
Plot twist its actually the laywers claiming your home so they can generate more business.
I can't even cash my paycheck at the bank without showing two forms of ID. So how can someone take legal possession of my house *without my knowledge or consent???*
It all boils down to the County clerks who typically look bored AF if you have ever had to go there, and let anything pass without double triple checking.
California in a nutshell.....
@@SteeLHorseNomad22that person should also be held criminally liable as well as the scammer. They should both be charged as conspirators in a felony theft case that they took part in. How is this crap not voided immediately?
@@SeanLewisMedial absolutely agree...l would also sue to city, county AND state
Right?! Make it make sense!🙄🤦🏾♀️
Why can the scammers get the title so easily but so difficult for the real owner to get it back? Stupid system.
It is an inside job as county employees knowingly let this scam happen in the first place. They work with scammers with all those details about your property.
That’s because the system doesn’t give a damn about us.
The system is a failure due to corrupted people who run it and letting the scammers rob us.
California corrupt government
This is really ridiculous! As tax payers, what services are we getting here!?!
The clerk office should be held accountable for all those fees for not validating the notary ! That’s just BS for most people who can’t afford those fees for something that’s not even your fault
The clerks are probably in on it
So are you willing to pay more taxes so that these clerks can do the validation? Do you know that in many cases, they are prevented by law from doing that validation. Laws and funding need to change.
@@jkpindahbc wow you must be fun at a party… you’re just assuming.
I agree they should 100% be required to validate all of this stuff because something like this may seem like a small mistake to them but the one like us it’s a massive colossal issue which is not fair and it cost us more money than we could ever afford like for me if this ever happened to me honestly I would probably be better off dead because there’s no way I could afford a lawyer to fix this.
That’s the problem today. No one is held accountable for anything! They know if they screw up there won’t be any consequences; so they don’t put in the effort to do a good job! 😡
This is what happens when there are ZERO criminal consequences for this type of criminal activity.
We forgot about white collar criminals.
Need to be able to lock it down like your credit. No sakes no nothing unless owner is there with valid ID plus passport
How is e-notification going help you after something has already been recorded? Wouldn’t you still have to go through the same unfair drawn out court process? They should set-up an Owner PIN number, and not record anything unless the actual Owner provides it. Crime does pay sadly in our society. You have to prove more to get your own ish back than the thief who stole it.
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Instead of taking RESPONSIBILITY and creating a better secure system they are telling us to check the records often!!! Our tax dollars pay for their salaries, we need to demand that they do their jobs!!!
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If this happened to an insurance company CEO, there would be cyber police combing the web for the crooks.
Just like squatters. They have more rights than you do when you try to get them out if your house.
🙄🤦🏾♀️ But the bank will come after you in a minute if you don’t pay the mortgage!
They should be allow to sue the scammers and the county for any legal fees.
The fault lies with the clerks that are allowing the illegal so documents to be filed. Notaries all have to be registered on state databases. The clerks are not validating the notary's signature, license or checking with that notary as to the validity of the document. Total failure. They are the ones charged with protecting the public from fraudulent activity...they are liable.
Exactly. It’s way too easy to file fake court documents. The clerks barely look at them, there’s very little proof you even filed (that info is often lost) and you can end up in endless court battles over who has the real filing. A friend of mine has been going through a similar saga for years. Clerks will just take anything and file it a long as you pay the fee and all the blanks are filled.
Government workers are the most lazy, unmotivated, and entitled workforce in the country.
it's a government agency, they are never going to accept responsibility
Agree
You can't hold government employees accountable for doing their jobs. That's just unAmerican.
That’s scary especially for the elderly who have already paid off their home
The alerts do nothing because the damage has been done.
I'm starting to realize that the more obscure the law is the more that the lawyers just make money. Lawyers don't want the law to get better they want it to get more obscure and worse, because then they get to drag things out. 100,000 in litigation fees just to correct a deed that someone stole from under you. That is insane
End rubber stamps and have a bar code that can be scanned to check for validity.
What kind of America am i living in, where criminals can swiftly take your property?
The kind that is full of lazy state,city,and county officials without a care in the world, the tax paying public is not a concern for them. The report makes it clear that to get justice we must spend thousands in attorneys and the ones keeping our home deeds "safe" are never held responsible. The system is designed to protect the criminals.
That's how America was invented. Lol
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@@kaebeeleeSo true what goes around comes back around (Karma people ) !!!!!!!
The job to verify if the transaction is real or not needs to be up to the county clerk. They should not just record the transaction. They need to VERIFY it is real. They are the only keeper of the data.
I think you’re right, but as of now there is no funding for such activity nor do the clerks, have the authority to do it. Laws need to change and your taxes need to go up.
Terrible advice...there is no advice...checking constantly is too late, it's changed already and you still have to go through the courts.
Exaclty!
Why is it easy for the scammer to commit a crime and fraud, but it’s more difficult for the actual owner to get back their property? Things should not work that way, it’s like wrong is right and right is wrong. Doesn’t make sense and the laws should never protect the scammer.
Stop making it so hard, get a stamp and refile the title yourselves, what are they going to do prosecute you for stealing your own property
As always Criminals has so much more rights than the victims.
The man commited fraud so why do you have to sue them?
It's insane your property security and safety is in the hands of some incompentent governemnt clerk. Shows how the entire system is in favor of the criminal.
Just file a deed transfer the same way the scammer did on you. Done
The county recorders office should verify documents validity. If not, they're at fault for malpractice. Its their job!
In many cases, it is not their job. Laws and funding need to change so that it is their job that’s the entire point. A lot of times they don’t have the authority to verify and how are they going to do it?
Notaries are registered. That's a good start.
What about criminal action against the cons who steal real estate this way? Shouldn't they be in prison for fraud? Why is there no mention of calling the cops against this obvious crime? Why is this merely a civil action?
The govt needs to do more. Why is it sufficient to just file a title transfer form? Something like that should require at minimum a notary to confirm the signature of the seller and buyer.
So they are the county clerks' faults. Sue the county then, that's the only way to get their attention and make them change their internal guidelines on how to verify document and perform dual diligence
File a deed and take it back!
Sue the county for their incompetence to recover your attorney costs.
I'd file a lawsuit.
Their need to be better laws to prevent or deter this along with stiff criminal penalties.
Is this real life? Why is the scammer still holding the title and NOT getting prosecuted after the county found out it's fake? What kind of stupid world are we living in?
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If they forged the documents, that's fraud. Which means the scammers are in no way, shape, or form the "owners"; they are thieves and criminals, and should be treated as such. Ask yourself why they are not. 🤔
Remind me again why we elect and pay the Register of Deeds? What is his job exactly?
It’s to simply register because in the past, people were honest and not like this. They are often limited in what they can actually do. Otherwise they may call people liars when they are not. The laws need to change and funding needs to change so that the clerks can actually catch the frauds..
It would be easier and cheaper to do the same thing the scammers do and get your title back. If the scammers don’t face consequences why should the rightful owner?
Exactly! I would immediately go back and get MY title!
And some (no regular people) wonder why a greedy CEO was shot. All of this BS where honest people are screwed over is pushing people to the brink.
Just keep a small mortgage on the property. Bank will hold the deed not the homeowner.
Banks love this idea
Dumbest "solution" ever
@@airtioteclint clearly you don't own property.. Lol
I would sue the county and sue the county recorder for not doing their job. If enough people sue, they’ll stop being so lazy…smh
Seems to me that people with good, but "unsecure" titles or deeds, could create a new deed in which future ownership transfers will required the physical presence and signature (or that of someone with Power of Attorney) in order to convey owner ship to someone or transfer title.
Maybe county recorders work with scammers with inside job information. Hold those county employees accountable for letting these scams happened.
2:18 you have to go to court and have a lawyer etc... timely process says lawyer when all of this was done by a fraudster. How about hunting down said fraudster and have a niceeee "discussion". They from individuals to notary to lawyer should be paying for it and whoever authorized the fraudulent paperwork.
3:05 b.s excuse. It just goes back to your ass hiring a lawyer
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Forging a deed is illegal? How does that make it their property if they broke the law? There should be felony theft charges immediately. That person should goto prison… what am I missing? How stupid is the government???
The stupidest!!
So this was a deed of trust not a deed to a home. If the borrowers would have tried to sell their home the title company would have required these gentlemen to sign an affidavit the loan was paid off. Without that affidavit the title company will not recognize the false reconveyance. This whole new story is confusing.
Why aren’t there safeguards in place?
They're showing shop lifters while the real scammers are chunking off 500k properties quietly and brazenly
This is a shameful practice and should be punished harshly.
All these years of hyping up blockchain and it still isn't used for something it is extremely applicable for: ownership validation.
I signed up for deed notification. I get alert when someone obtains my address info
But how well has thus worked to prevent fraud? Just asking.
Systems can notify the listed owner before any title transfer is made. Who can? Real,estate agents, title search processes, deed registration … one or all.
Wow, this is incredible, those people belong in prison, they’re grand larceny thieves. This is criminal not just civil.
Why nobody mentioning California Penal Code section 470: Forgery? Why no comment from DA's office? Still giving benefit of the doubt, honest mistake?
If someone steals my deed they will go straight to cemetery
My dept, check for deeds when they see something suspicious. The person who forge it, will get arrested, and go to jail. The county recorders need to do a better job.
Did the clerks get any punishment?
Scammers try to steal Elvis’ Graceland!
So it sounds like to me the people looking over this type of paperwork should be held accountable for shit like this. …
@2:55 How to protect yourself.
Scammers make great soil for the tree 🌳 out back 😂❤
They need to start using fingerprint identification with original documents and then again with any change and they need to be compared.
County Recorders in the US always have exorbitant regulations but amazingly one important element not covered … the protection of ownership. Ironically the reason these offices have been placed for.
So does it is more easy to steal a home owner title in blue state since the state still allow employees to work remotely or come to the office few days a week , they have no time to check carefully the deed?.
I’m just wondering, does this only happen if your home is already paid off, and there is no lien on it? Can you prevent this type of fraud if you take out a home equity line of credit on it, or a small home improvement loan of some sort?
So I can just ‘obtain’ a notary stamp and take my property back without going to court
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Bad reporting letting police off the hook. This is a CRIME. What garbage excuse did police give for doing nothing? They were too busy arresting the guy who took his TV back to Walmart because it died?
This is not good. They need to get on this shit. She’s my friend, but you know what not good at all. They need to stop this and keep an eye on this people are just taking peoples money left and right like they have money our state used to get on it big time.
This has been a problem in India for years.
People put signs on their property saying "This property is not for sale" . But, this is just to warn people who are honestly looking to buy....which may be what scammers are try to do to get money
What sort of information would a lawyer need to be able get your property back if this were to happen?
The system is corrupted
The county clerks need to be sued. It's the county clerk's problem for approving it
Lawyers should be the only person that can request to record the property ownership.
Sue the county.
What happens with property taxes during the 12-18 hypothetical?
You pay on something you now don't 'technically' own?
They don't pay and it goes into arrears or tax foreclosure?
What a mess.
Is that alert thing only set up for Cali residents
Didn't they do this to Graceland?
And properties tony Hsieh owned in vegas.
This Why People Should Stop Buying Houses It Not Never Yours . You Still Got Pay For The Land.
What does a poor man do if it happens?
These scammers looking to get terminated ☠️
American nightmare 😮
So who is the scammer again?
And how quickly a scammer gets an painful attitude adjustment that won't end until they hand back over the properties they stole.
The system need to be sue for not doing enough research!
Despicable behavior
Single mom and two kids, it happened to me, they prey on the ones that have no choices too. I’ve been three years homeless watching some people live in my home I had for 14 years and my son, daughter and I remodeled! COVID made it easy!! Not to mention no money for attorneys or to even fight for your home, so we just watch from the sidelines! Evil people will take what they want but yet get nowhere with what they took. Just keep believing, my two children and I still sit homeless yet again moving all around just to try.
Shouldn’t the person who approved it get n trouble.?
This is wild you may spend $100,000 to get your property back! Unbelievable!!
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OWNER DID NOTHING WRONG better not cost the victim ANYTHING TO GET THEIR STOLEN DEED BACK
This is a major failing of the County Recorders offices all over the country. Just too lazy to verify submitted documents. The Congress needs to take this up and put a nationwide requirement that all submitted documents for recording must be verified with both the Seller/Lawyer/Title Officer and buyer before recording. It's not the owners obligation to do the County Recorders job for them.
There is an obvious flaw to the system. And weirdly, but often, the government is not doing anything about it.
Sue the government office for processing fraudulent form
sue the county
This illustrates how LA County operates in a manner similar to government functions in developing countries, and me having a WTF momnet
We are paying price of designing everything for 'ease of use' or comfort.
County should be sued for allowing a fraudelent transaction go through. It's on them.
if it was so easy for the scammer to take title deed of your property, why don't u just copy them and do it back.
It looks to me like the clerk is on the wrong team. Letting it happen
Even bank transfer your mortgage to shell companies and also froudlant claim and put lien on your title
It would be better to revert to the ways of yesterday: Have both parties appear at the county office. Hopefully they don't show up w/ a fake i.d. person in place of the home owner.
Interesting as we don't receive physical deeds anymore.
This varies from state to state.