Folks, especially military folk on their first enlistment or military folk that only had one enlistment, don't understand what staff and officers go through. News for ya, most of us have been through everything you've been through and more; some of us even been part of the "E-4 mafia" at one point in our careers. Here's the deal, we aren't stupid (most of us) and we know what's going on even when you think you've gotten away with it. How do we know? Well, look at above paragraph. Deal is, when in command we have to overlook the minor flaws of the a**holes as much as we have to overlook minor flaws for the best troops, for the betterment for the service. Up until the moment it's a serious detriment to the unit. So yeah, the guy hit the point where he needed to go. He went past the point of exercising good judgment in favor of his emotions.
@@JD-tn5lzMilitary folk live a life so removed from the real world, they cannot by definition know more than the rest of us. Only different. You choose path X, you give up on all the other paths. Anyone who’s had career military in their college classroom knows the monumental deficits ex-careerists have. Moreover, military life is so regimented and rigid, and its personnel so overwhelming identified with conservative, right wing and white supremacist groups, that there is clearly a great deal they don’t know. Those who were in Vietnam at this time, were not career military save for high command and a small number of medics. They were real people, champing to get back to real, non military life. Read the memoirs. Very revealing.
I remember watching this scene in the movie theatre. There was a roar of laughter at Robin's BJ line and then applause when Dickerson got transferred to Guam. Such a great experience.
@@1987AnimeBoy The general cut him off and walked away. What if Cronauer and the sergeant major were sitting next to each other on the same transport plane?
@@nocapbussin in retrospect this general would be more relaxed as he likely was a young lt during ww2. All that time watching men die taught him life needs to be enjoyed. So yes he isnt what every general is like, just what a troop commander who knows when to let loose.
And just like that, morale and productivity in Guam plummeted overnight to its worst in history. Imagine being the unit in that beautiful place that receives this guy as it’s next top SNCO. Jesus.
I was a one striper standing at the magazine rack on base. A guy walked up to me. I never noticed his rank. Struck up a causual conversation. Then I noticed he was a full bird. Nicest conversation I ever had with an officer. Can't remember his name. I do recall him being replaced by a real prick by the name of Jim Hill. He was so special he had his name printed in sxript on the tail of his airplane. That didn't last long.
@@derricklafrance9440 he died right when he was on a streak of some really good roles: Nixon, Sling Blade, Breakdown, Pleasantville, etc. He was one of those character actors that I didn't know by name until his last few years, but whenever I saw him in a movie I expected it would be at least decent.
Wow, you're right! All 3 of these guys have been dead a while now. That's harsh. The Robin Williams one was tough for me since he was about the same age as my old man, and both died within a month's time.
@@75aces97he was also in A Few Good Men with Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise in one his best roles in a antagonist role as Lt Colonel Matthew Andrew Markinson
I guess when Dickerson answered Croanuer's question that he antagonized him because he didn't like him, he proved himself to be mean and vindictive, and that was enough for General Taylor to transfer him away.
@@1987AnimeBoy I would assume the real reason the General transfered Dickerson out of Vietnam is that Dickerson tried to get Croanuer killed and that would come back to the General responsible for all actions of anyone under his command. A transfer is alot less public than a court martial against Dickerson.
Most E9s have EARNED that "latitude", even with general officers. However, General Taylor (the late Noble Willingham) has made it emphatically clear that he's tired of SGM Dickerson, his "meanness" which he'd been willing to dismiss as "craziness", as likely these two go back to Korea and/or WWII, and some "craziness" resulting from trauma in combat was known, just not commonly discussed in 1965.
Imagine your greatest accomplishment as a SgtMaj with two tours in Vietnam was firing the funniest radio host in the entire war. In today’s Air Force he’d receive a bronze star for that accomplishment. I know he’s Army, but AF throws those decorations at officers and senior enlisted like cheerleaders throwing out candy at a parade.
My dad was in Vietnam, 68-69 and he told me once referring to this type of SGM that "guys like that sometimes had a bad habit of not coming back from patrols"....read between the lines. I spend 6yrs in the Navy and (thankfully) all the E7s, E8s and E9s I had were all at least semi-decent guys (and gals). This was a different time to VN though.
that's very true, SGM's and officers who did not gain the respect of the men they were leading usually ended up in a body bags tossed into the back of dustoffs.
we had a SGM named "Young" at SCN Panama early 1980's ...could have been this guys twin and mean as a snake...one of the troops was trying to put a tranquilizer in the pricks coffee but he never left it alone- never met a meaner SOB in my life.....lol
@@healthycigarettes5088 Are you sure? If Hauk talked to avoid being charged with complicity, a nice post-credit scene would be Sergeant Major Dick being blindfolded for the FIRING SQUAD!
Earlier in the movie, Garlic/ Forest Whitaker made reference that the sergeant major was with Special Forces until he was transferred after screwing up. Looks like he's getting transferred even further from the front lines.
the Navy has a listening post dead center of Australlia, I know because I helped pack a sailor's things to be sent there. This is where I would have sent the sargent, if he thought Guam was bad, he would go nuts there. Watch him get a 2 day leave and find out he can't go anywhere
NCS Harold E Holt. In the north west of the country, actually. Western Australia. He could always have gone to Exmouth, pop. 2000 or so, established in '67 for the sole purpose of serving the station. But Perth is about 800 miles away.
@@Tourist1967 He probably meant Pine Gap, which is in the geographic centre of Australia. Although it is CIA, not USN, it has US military personnel there to operate it and guard it. Exmouth pre-dated Harold E Holt. It was a top secret submarine base during World War 2.
yeah I grew up with mean. I grew up with bitterness and spite. I know what it sounds like, tastes like and looks like. You can get better or you can get bitter.
Being transfred to Guam sounds awesome. Easy life, great whether, nobody is going to try to blow your head. Same salary, benefits etc. Those crazy soldiers who want to be where the action is are crazy
Dickerson is hard core army solder. He did not understand the difference between a army camp in the field compared to a radio station. I think a dedicated solder would think Guam is boring.
@@healthycigarettes5088 He's a fuckup. Mean but incompetent. That's why he's benched near a desk, not doing patrols. Desk is comfortable, but every army men who saw combat can see right through his BS.
Yes, but you certainly not going to be fast tracked for promotion. And at his portrayed age it is highly unlikely to be on the field. Being transferred twice , and worse to Guam , his path to be brass is no longer.
One thing I've always heard since my time in the Marine corps (94-02) is how "BACK IN THE DAY WE WERE TOUGHER!!!". Older people almost always bit¢h and moan about any change from how the military works usually moaning that it's easier etc. So i love this scene where we see a CG chastise a SNCO for being needlessly mean and cruel. Yes, the military is a tough environment and it should be. But there is zero need to act like a di¢k head 24/7 without reason. When you fu¢k up, you should get a face full. When you act insubordinate or violate rules and regs, you should get it. But again, the best leaders don't just scream and yell 24/7.
That's old men in every facet of life. In my early 20s, I had guys in the construction business tell me how tough they were and how they could work circles around me, yet they always had me doing the heavy lifting, because if they tried to lift two pieces of plywood at once, their kneecaps would shoot out of their legs like hypersonic missiles.
@@cumulo25 so true! That's why i, as i draw ever closer to 50, really focus on recognizing my younger peers and what they bring to it. And ALWAYS keep my own experience in perspective.
I worked with a guy who was just like this bastard. Eventually, when he became in charge, he eliminated my job. But I got back at the fucker. I won't say how.
That’s exactly how it was in Vietnam. My first sergeant hung out with me, a lowly E-3, why because he liked his men. I never saw a general doing anything like this, our base commander was a bird colonel.
@@CrowT Did I say it shocked me? If I did I’m sorry but in a war zone you’re absolutely wrong. I hung out with pilots and doctors and all officers. We played games together and even partied. I don’t know where you got your information?
@@ronniebishop2496 My "information" was from my 6 years in the USAF as an Aerial Gunner. Was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Even in deployed locations, Officers and Enlisted are not allowed to just casually hang out like that. I was a Staff Sergeant and NCOs were not even allowed to just chill with jr members like that. That was considered fraternization. I dunno....guess it was different back then.🤷♂️ You said "I never saw a General do anything like this." I was simply stating that it is because Generals do not hang out with jr enlisted members like that. Or at least they are not suppose to.
@@CrowT Well a bird colonel was our commander. My son in law is a colonel in the Air Force now and I’ll ask him, but I was stationed in San Antonio, Wichita Falls and Austin before I went to Phu Cat S Vietnam. Now stateside I didn’t hang out with officers but in Vietnam I did, so I guess it was the war and the time, most strict military procedures were ignored in Vietnam. Of course I was a crew chief on F-4s so that might have given me access, I just never thought of it much. I do know General Cross was our base commander in Austin so I knew he had flown Air Force One for LBJ and had connections out the butt, we were the only base to pass an operational ready inspection in 1970 so it had to be politically motivated. Plus Bergstrom AFB was a show place, the mess hall had better food than any place downtown. lol 😂
@@ronniebishop2496 I am sure a Colonel will know the Air Force Regulation (A.F.I.) number regarding fraternazation and what is said in it. We certainly were as enlisted personnel.
I was in high school when this movie was out I went to see it at the movie theater in Carolina Beach I used to love going to that theater. When it was offseason you could see any movie for a $1.25 LOL
Of course none of this ever happened at all. Now when I was there they did adopt the good morning Vietnam but it went like Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Vietnam!!! Or longer.
My counterpart at work is also an Army vet. We said the next time we go on training to an army instillation, we’re going to walk on the grass and shake the CSM’s hand that yells at us.
The general should have relieved the sergeant on the spot and sent him to Guam. There's no reason to be an asshole and you don't have to put up with that either. Just cuz you got some stripes.
Adak Alaska is a favorite place to stuff navy officer's that are not meeting the standards of the leadership. Guam in Vietnam for the Army would have been the same thing. Europe had the risk of the Warsaw Pact at the time. If you put him stateside he could have been transferred into a combat unit and really caused problems. So stuffing him in Guam more than likely at a transit depot was the best option to get him out of the way and were he really couldn't hurt the Army with his attitude. The Marines did the same with their repo depot in Barstow having people count mess kits. For the Air Force it was send them to Arizona and work the boneyard.
Chris I didn’t hate their guts, just felt sorry for them. The Sergeant Major was a product of his environment and institutionalized from more than 20 years in the crass and impertinent Army culture and many career NCO’s in the Army are nasty people with no filter on them. The Lt was just some book-smart dweeb with no social skills, possibly Asperger’s Syndrome, but this was 30 years before people ever knew of such thing.
I was career Air Force from 1989 to 2010 and all that time in the military I never lost my humanity or moral compass. There is something the Army does to a person to this day, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. In 2006, I deployed to Afghanistan with the Army and was very shocked about their culture. The main thing was their lack of any kind of thoughtfullness, empathy, or compassion. The seasoned NCO’s with 20 years in or around there had no filter on them and didn’t think twice about insulting people or calling them names. The Air Force would call this unprofessional behavior, but this is acceptable in the Army with higher-uppers to make the subordinates thick-skinned.
@@jondstewart There IS a huge difference in the corporate cultures of the Army vs. the Air Force, but remember that the Grunts usually have to SEE what results from them carrying out their mission, while the "Blue Suiters" just fly back to base to get bacon and eggs for breakfast.
I wish Robin Williams had not killed himself. I'm facing some real serious problems with my health. I thought about it but I just can't do it. The difference between me and him is no one will mourn me.
Watching this scene made me realize that I used to say some extended family members were crazy . They weren't just mean. This guy was good as the nice normal guy that got it. That all that mattered was that the troops liked adrian & they needed some laughter out in that hell on earth. Like why did Dickerson & Bruno kirby's character flip out if news was read about a bombing at a bar ? Isnt that important for the men to know ? So maybe they would think twice about going to a a bar or at least have that guard up ? Or when Adrienne edited the nixon press conf that the soldiers would know it was a joke ?? Like they gave a crap about what nixon said other than as the vice president " war is over " I get maybe it was a Time everyone respected presidents & vice presidents but as the head guy said " this is just radio " also wouldnt Dickerson be ok with going to Guam since their wasnt a war going on ? I assume his job was just radio & would be in Guam. Radio is a cush job if u have to get drafted or already in the armed forces as a career . Even so any place in vietnam was not 100% safe. At least if " nothing's going on in guam " u are much safer. Anyway a radio gig like all the men their are involved in , are so lucky to be doing that. Like I said maybe not 100% safe but still the safest job to have there. Not out in the fields literally wondering if ur gonna be shot kidnapped & tortured or step on a land mine. Or have to kill other human beings. Also it's so disgustingly hot in vietnam. That humid hot that is so uncomfortable & ur in a full uniform carrying weapons & supplies. They are in a nice air conditioned building all day. I wonder how a guy like Dickerson or any of the other djs got that cushy job. My grandfather had a cushy job but was not nearly as good as this. He was a cook for the soldiers. He had it so much better than the field men but still he had to cook all day in a hot kitchen. He was just thrilled he was not on the front lines at least. I respect Muhammad Ali so much bc when he was drafted they def would have given him some type of entertainment job . Maybe radio or a kitchen job. Instead he gave up the greatest title in the world , lost years of his prime which slowed him down a lot which made him vulnerable. I believe many feel he got Parkinson's from all the blows he took to the head. Unless I'm wrong & he was getting parkinsons no matter what but I'm pretty positive drs have said that taking all those hard blows to the brain brought on Parkinson's. He was also punchy. That man loved boxing so much & gave it up & his belt to protest the war in general & protest how this country sent many young black men to war. To me that's what made ali a hero.
Respects to your Grandfather's Service in Nam. Yet I'm sure he would tell you. Vietnam was Screwed for all in the beginning. One-Like Korea, it was never Declared. Two-There was no such thing as a Front Line. So no one was safe. Three- The Assholes that sent them. Never allowed them to win. That is what I remember. Being told by Vietnam Veterans who where there.
I Remember in an episode of MASH they were in the operating room and news came on about the French troops in Vietnam fighting Ho Chi Min. MASH was Korea 1950 to 53. I'm too old and cripple now. But if called I'd go. Ali was a chump. Afghanistan has been another Endless mess. Robin Williams will be missed.
I read some where that uniforms have to be little off for movies not sure if that is true but have noticed ribbons out of order and things like that as well.
What if instead he’d gone up to SGM Dickerson and just offered him a hug and that he was sorry about the mess he caused and tells him goodbye? That would have really confused the man and maybe even soften him up a bit! 😂
Love how the General does the dirty thing he knows he has to because his hands be forced but he also uses that same power to punish the SGM for forcing his hand and being a fucking asshole. Its very likely that be the last posting of his career and would kill any attempts to stay in much longer.
I found that the more senior officers were untolds more relaxed in dealing with the "other ranks" than the junior officers were (The "One pippers"; straight outta officer cadet school, complete with pimples, not finished puberty, but a platoon commander). In all fairness, some of the "young ones" were great, we respected them, we would have crawled over a mile of broken glass for them.
Depends on the officer. I've found most generals and/or admirals are quite personable, but you let them "drop the rank" FIRST, don't EVER speak to them like they're "Uncle Fred" on your own! Else, you WILL hear about it, just not from that general, but YOUR CO and supervisor, and they will likely not be very happy with you...
Saw the man live twice-Weapons of Mass Distraction tour. Good show, but if it had been Live on Broadway, or Night at the Met I wouldn't have survived. I laughed so hard as a kid listening to those I needed to use my asthma inhaler multiple times.
the message here is that the lower ranks want to do the best they can, upper ranks want to support and give their soldiers the best they can, but all the stupidity and arrogance is coming from the middle ranks.
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Very funny but to me the general showed real leadership. He knew what as going on and had enough. And a sense of humor clearly.
FACT
Garrison cap on wrong?
Folks, especially military folk on their first enlistment or military folk that only had one enlistment, don't understand what staff and officers go through.
News for ya, most of us have been through everything you've been through and more; some of us even been part of the "E-4 mafia" at one point in our careers.
Here's the deal, we aren't stupid (most of us) and we know what's going on even when you think you've gotten away with it. How do we know? Well, look at above paragraph.
Deal is, when in command we have to overlook the minor flaws of the a**holes as much as we have to overlook minor flaws for the best troops, for the betterment for the service. Up until the moment it's a serious detriment to the unit.
So yeah, the guy hit the point where he needed to go. He went past the point of exercising good judgment in favor of his emotions.
@@JD-tn5lzMilitary folk live a life so removed from the real world, they cannot by definition know more than the rest of us. Only different. You choose path X, you give up on all the other paths. Anyone who’s had career military in their college classroom knows the monumental deficits ex-careerists have. Moreover, military life is so regimented and rigid, and its personnel so overwhelming identified with conservative, right wing and white supremacist groups, that there is clearly a great deal they don’t know. Those who were in Vietnam at this time, were not career military save for high command and a small number of medics. They were real people, champing to get back to real, non military life. Read the memoirs. Very revealing.
@@JD-tn5lzexactly. Totally agree. We always knew what was going on.
The General also said, I wouldn't trust Nixon as far as I could throw him and I consider Nixon a close personal friend.
That General was funny.
Such a nice bit of humiliation - the general repeating, and chuckling at, the same joke that had just triggered him.
I remember watching this scene in the movie theatre. There was a roar of laughter at Robin's BJ line and then applause when Dickerson got transferred to Guam. Such a great experience.
"...you're not crazy, you're mean...and this is just radio". Bang!
I've used that line on my father, when he asked me, after I moved out from a toxic home environment, why I didn't I ever visit him.
@@paulleckner8235 And how did he respond to that?
@@1987AnimeBoy The general cut him off and walked away. What if Cronauer and the sergeant major were sitting next to each other on the same transport plane?
@@paulleckner8235 I mean how did your father respond to your quoting?
@@1987AnimeBoy My father shut up. I knew my father had a weakness for movie quotes. He also liked Matlock with Andy Griffith.
This movie nailed the personalities of a general, sgt major, and 2nd Lt.
radio isfilled with managers that are f****** nuts
You never been in the military have you?
@@nocapbussin in retrospect this general would be more relaxed as he likely was a young lt during ww2.
All that time watching men die taught him life needs to be enjoyed. So yes he isnt what every general is like, just what a troop commander who knows when to let loose.
...and nailed the nature of most of us in the radio industry.
All three of them (Robin Williams, Noble Willingham, and JT Walsh) have passed on, and will be MISSED.
Also actor Bruno Kirby who also appeared in Good Morning Vietnam and City Slickers passed away in 2006
4. Bruno Kirby
Wow. Brink Kirby was only 57! 😧
And just like that, morale and productivity in Guam plummeted overnight to its worst in history.
Imagine being the unit in that beautiful place that receives this guy as it’s next top SNCO. Jesus.
He saw the general outside, and brilliantly baited him just right! That’s the definition of professional troll! No amateur hour here!
Three brilliant actors in a scene lasting less than a minute.
One of my favorite lines in history. RIP Robin Williams!
True dat
And Noble Willingham
@@gregoryvschmidt for sure!
The general stepping in is so epic. lol
I was a one striper standing at the magazine rack on base. A guy walked up to me. I never noticed his rank. Struck up a causual conversation. Then I noticed he was a full bird. Nicest conversation I ever had with an officer. Can't remember his name. I do recall him being replaced by a real prick by the name of Jim Hill. He was so special he had his name printed in sxript on the tail of his airplane. That didn't last long.
Um, who cares?
Actor J T Walsh will be sorely missed.
J.T. Walsh was one of the best actors at playing an irrefutable douche bag in a lot of movies like this one. Great stuff.
That's the best 60 seconds of the movie. I've seen a couple of SGM's that were just old frustrated mean guys like that....
did they get jobs by the Psychotronic Harrassement Department? I mean they delivered the Job?
@@fuggoff5277 Are you on drugs???
@@fuggoff5277 truer words were never spoken
Yep. Most of them are.
"Get off my grass!"
RIP J.T. Walsh, Noble Willingham, and Robin Williams
JT Walsh wasn't in enough movies. That's a shame.
@@derricklafrance9440 he died right when he was on a streak of some really good roles: Nixon, Sling Blade, Breakdown, Pleasantville, etc. He was one of those character actors that I didn't know by name until his last few years, but whenever I saw him in a movie I expected it would be at least decent.
Wow, you're right! All 3 of these guys have been dead a while now. That's harsh. The Robin Williams one was tough for me since he was about the same age as my old man, and both died within a month's time.
And Bruno Kirby.
@@75aces97he was also in A Few Good Men with Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise in one his best roles in a antagonist role as Lt Colonel Matthew Andrew Markinson
But you're not crazy, you're mean, yes there is a difference!
I guess when Dickerson answered Croanuer's question that he antagonized him because he didn't like him, he proved himself to be mean and vindictive, and that was enough for General Taylor to transfer him away.
Can be both.
Sort of describes many Democrat Party politicians of late.
@@Mediumal
Most of them, anyway... accompanied by a handful of RINOS.
@@1987AnimeBoy I would assume the real reason the General transfered Dickerson out of Vietnam is that Dickerson tried to get Croanuer killed and that would come back to the General responsible for all actions of anyone under his command. A transfer is alot less public than a court martial against Dickerson.
Dickerson forgot he was given huge latitude there. He is an E9 talking to a one star. Who allowed him to speak with him that way.
Most E9s have EARNED that "latitude", even with general officers. However, General Taylor (the late Noble Willingham) has made it emphatically clear that he's tired of SGM Dickerson, his "meanness" which he'd been willing to dismiss as "craziness", as likely these two go back to Korea and/or WWII, and some "craziness" resulting from trauma in combat was known, just not commonly discussed in 1965.
You've never been in the military, have you?
Imagine your greatest accomplishment as a SgtMaj with two tours in Vietnam was firing the funniest radio host in the entire war. In today’s Air Force he’d receive a bronze star for that accomplishment. I know he’s Army, but AF throws those decorations at officers and senior enlisted like cheerleaders throwing out candy at a parade.
My dad was in Vietnam, 68-69 and he told me once referring to this type of SGM that "guys like that sometimes had a bad habit of not coming back from patrols"....read between the lines. I spend 6yrs in the Navy and (thankfully) all the E7s, E8s and E9s I had were all at least semi-decent guys (and gals). This was a different time to VN though.
that's very true, SGM's and officers who did not gain the respect of the men they were leading usually ended up in a body bags tossed into the back of dustoffs.
YESSSSSSSSSSS! That was the butter! Thank you for posting this scene.
“Whoa there Dick”. After robins line. Lol!!
For a one second scene Robin Williams stole the whole thing!
He hit the nail right on the head!🤣🤣🤣
we had a SGM named "Young" at SCN Panama early 1980's ...could have been this guys twin and mean as a snake...one of the troops was trying to put a tranquilizer in the pricks coffee but he never left it alone- never met a meaner SOB in my life.....lol
Some Acid in it might have bin entertaining!
Guys like that had a nasty habit of disappearing in the jungle. Weird.
No surprise, mean people can be just as paranoid and suspicious.
RIP - Robin Williams
something I've wanted to tell my ex boss for a long time
General Taylor got revenge on SGM for finding dirt on his favorite disc jockey and getting him discharged.
It's also speculated that the General found out SGM intentionally sent Cronauer to An Lac to get him killed.
@@medmar76 But the General cannot court martial the SGM without proof, so why not just send the SGM to a boring place.
@@healthycigarettes5088 Are you sure? If Hauk talked to avoid being charged with complicity, a nice post-credit scene would be Sergeant Major Dick being blindfolded for the FIRING SQUAD!
@@healthycigarettes5088plus the accusation alone would've been a huge scandal for the military. Borderline treason
JT Walsh was great in this! Great supporting actor. Jack Nicholson was a fan of his. RIP.
Earlier in the movie, Garlic/ Forest Whitaker made reference that the sergeant major was with Special Forces until he was transferred after screwing up. Looks like he's getting transferred even further from the front lines.
He didn't screw up, he got a nasty venereal disease which forced him out of combat duty.
The SGM has a thin skin and a vindictive streak, traits not desirable in senior enlisted personnel.
Must of missed that part have to re watch it
the Navy has a listening post dead center of Australlia, I know because I helped pack a sailor's things to be sent there. This is where I would have sent the sargent, if he thought Guam was bad, he would go nuts there. Watch him get a 2 day leave and find out he can't go anywhere
NCS Harold E Holt. In the north west of the country, actually. Western Australia. He could always have gone to Exmouth, pop. 2000 or so, established in '67 for the sole purpose of serving the station. But Perth is about 800 miles away.
@@Tourist1967 He probably meant Pine Gap, which is in the geographic centre of Australia. Although it is CIA, not USN, it has US military personnel there to operate it and guard it.
Exmouth pre-dated Harold E Holt. It was a top secret submarine base during World War 2.
When I first enlisted I knew senior NCOs just like that. We called them brown shoes (old school).
Brown shoes are pilots.
yeah I grew up with mean. I grew up with bitterness and spite. I know what it sounds like, tastes like and looks like.
You can get better or you can get bitter.
All 3 of these men are no longer with us. :(
Fremont Lee Sad.
Nope all three are gone...but we've still got Forrest Whitaker, and he still makes movies!
What a masterpiece Robin was the greatest lol
This is what I'm gonna say to my boss if I get fired
you gonna blow him before or after you get fired?
Being transfred to Guam sounds awesome.
Easy life, great whether, nobody is going to try to blow your head.
Same salary, benefits etc.
Those crazy soldiers who want to be where the action is are crazy
Dickerson is hard core army solder. He did not understand the difference between a army camp in the field compared to a radio station. I think a dedicated solder would think Guam is boring.
@@healthycigarettes5088 He's a fuckup. Mean but incompetent. That's why he's benched near a desk, not doing patrols. Desk is comfortable, but every army men who saw combat can see right through his BS.
And on a weekend when you didnt have anything to do. you sat out in the shade with a couple 6 packs and watched the cars rust!! '61, '62.
Yes, but you certainly not going to be fast tracked for promotion. And at his portrayed age it is highly unlikely to be on the field. Being transferred twice , and worse to Guam , his path to be brass is no longer.
@@serafinacosta7118
He's a SGM. He doesn't need a promotion.
One thing I've always heard since my time in the Marine corps (94-02) is how "BACK IN THE DAY WE WERE TOUGHER!!!". Older people almost always bit¢h and moan about any change from how the military works usually moaning that it's easier etc. So i love this scene where we see a CG chastise a SNCO for being needlessly mean and cruel. Yes, the military is a tough environment and it should be. But there is zero need to act like a di¢k head 24/7 without reason. When you fu¢k up, you should get a face full. When you act insubordinate or violate rules and regs, you should get it. But again, the best leaders don't just scream and yell 24/7.
That's old men in every facet of life. In my early 20s, I had guys in the construction business tell me how tough they were and how they could work circles around me, yet they always had me doing the heavy lifting, because if they tried to lift two pieces of plywood at once, their kneecaps would shoot out of their legs like hypersonic missiles.
@@cumulo25 so true! That's why i, as i draw ever closer to 50, really focus on recognizing my younger peers and what they bring to it. And ALWAYS keep my own experience in perspective.
I worked with a guy who was just like this bastard. Eventually, when he became in charge, he eliminated my job. But I got back at the fucker. I won't say how.
...20 seconds : "" whoa, there, D I C K ....''' a nother classic line.....
Beat his ass for wearing his Infantry cord wrong.
That’s exactly how it was in Vietnam. My first sergeant hung out with me, a lowly E-3, why because he liked his men. I never saw a general doing anything like this, our base commander was a bird colonel.
That shocked you? That is typical in the military. Officers are not allowed to just "hang out" with enlisted members.
@@CrowT Did I say it shocked me? If I did I’m sorry but in a war zone you’re absolutely wrong. I hung out with pilots and doctors and all officers. We played games together and even partied. I don’t know where you got your information?
@@ronniebishop2496 My "information" was from my 6 years in the USAF as an Aerial Gunner. Was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Even in deployed locations, Officers and Enlisted are not allowed to just casually hang out like that. I was a Staff Sergeant and NCOs were not even allowed to just chill with jr members like that. That was considered fraternization. I dunno....guess it was different back then.🤷♂️ You said "I never saw a General do anything like this." I was simply stating that it is because Generals do not hang out with jr enlisted members like that. Or at least they are not suppose to.
@@CrowT Well a bird colonel was our commander. My son in law is a colonel in the Air Force now and I’ll ask him, but I was stationed in San Antonio, Wichita Falls and Austin before I went to Phu Cat S Vietnam. Now stateside I didn’t hang out with officers but in Vietnam I did, so I guess it was the war and the time, most strict military procedures were ignored in Vietnam. Of course I was a crew chief on F-4s so that might have given me access, I just never thought of it much. I do know General Cross was our base commander in Austin so I knew he had flown Air Force One for LBJ and had connections out the butt, we were the only base to pass an operational ready inspection in 1970 so it had to be politically motivated. Plus Bergstrom AFB was a show place, the mess hall had better food than any place downtown. lol 😂
@@ronniebishop2496 I am sure a Colonel will know the Air Force Regulation (A.F.I.) number regarding fraternazation and what is said in it. We certainly were as enlisted personnel.
Miss you Robin.
I was in high school when this movie was out I went to see it at the movie theater in Carolina Beach I used to love going to that theater. When it was offseason you could see any movie for a $1.25 LOL
He should be commanding in Vietnam , not running a radio station.
Of course none of this ever happened at all. Now when I was there they did adopt the good morning Vietnam but it went like Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Vietnam!!! Or longer.
General just saved the Radio DJ's ass by transferring him to guam for another job.
Uuuugh
SGM Dickerson's Cordon Bleu is on the wrong shoulderrrrr
The General shouldn't have sent him to Guam. He should have sent him to an infantry company in country.
And probably get other men killed as a result - either that or they'd frag the SGM.
It had already been established he had been on a combat unit at some point.
There aren’t any generals like that anymore...
Wow, very good movie. Lots of odd men! John P.
My counterpart at work is also an Army vet. We said the next time we go on training to an army instillation, we’re going to walk on the grass and shake the CSM’s hand that yells at us.
Great movie
RIP Robin Williams
That was good enjoyed it😊😊😊may they be blessed in heaven 😢😅😊😊
The general should have relieved the sergeant on the spot and sent him to Guam. There's no reason to be an asshole and you don't have to put up with that either. Just cuz you got some stripes.
Great scene
我喜欢这部电影的中文字幕！
Loved the Mandarin subtitles to expand my vocabulary ;-)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese_profanity
Just seeing that scene (even though it's just a movie), if I were a general officer, I would have transferred Sgt. Maj Dickerson to the Pentagon.
Nah, The Aleutian Islands. Or Greenland! 😂
Adak Alaska is a favorite place to stuff navy officer's that are not meeting the standards of the leadership. Guam in Vietnam for the Army would have been the same thing. Europe had the risk of the Warsaw Pact at the time. If you put him stateside he could have been transferred into a combat unit and really caused problems. So stuffing him in Guam more than likely at a transit depot was the best option to get him out of the way and were he really couldn't hurt the Army with his attitude.
The Marines did the same with their repo depot in Barstow having people count mess kits. For the Air Force it was send them to Arizona and work the boneyard.
There is good Generals👍
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After Guam he was transferred to Gitmo. Sad, really.
As a white man I agree completely lmmfao 🥃
JT Walsh played an asshole with the best of them. I hated his and Bruno Kirby's characters with a passion in this movie.
In "Breakdown" you hate Walsh's fucking guts by the end of the film.
Take my word for it, the army is chock full of people exactly like those two, seen them many many times.
Chris I didn’t hate their guts, just felt sorry for them. The Sergeant Major was a product of his environment and institutionalized from more than 20 years in the crass and impertinent Army culture and many career NCO’s in the Army are nasty people with no filter on them. The Lt was just some book-smart dweeb with no social skills, possibly Asperger’s Syndrome, but this was 30 years before people ever knew of such thing.
I was career Air Force from 1989 to 2010 and all that time in the military I never lost my humanity or moral compass. There is something the Army does to a person to this day, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. In 2006, I deployed to Afghanistan with the Army and was very shocked about their culture. The main thing was their lack of any kind of thoughtfullness, empathy, or compassion. The seasoned NCO’s with 20 years in or around there had no filter on them and didn’t think twice about insulting people or calling them names. The Air Force would call this unprofessional behavior, but this is acceptable in the Army with higher-uppers to make the subordinates thick-skinned.
@@jondstewart There IS a huge difference in the corporate cultures of the Army vs. the Air Force, but remember that the Grunts usually have to SEE what results from them carrying out their mission, while the "Blue Suiters" just fly back to base to get bacon and eggs for breakfast.
I wish Robin Williams had not killed himself. I'm facing some real serious problems with my health. I thought about it but I just can't do it. The difference between me and him is no one will mourn me.
Watching this scene made me realize that I used to say some extended family members were crazy . They weren't just mean. This guy was good as the nice normal guy that got it. That all that mattered was that the troops liked adrian & they needed some laughter out in that hell on earth. Like why did Dickerson & Bruno kirby's character flip out if news was read about a bombing at a bar ? Isnt that important for the men to know ? So maybe they would think twice about going to a a bar or at least have that guard up ? Or when Adrienne edited the nixon press conf that the soldiers would know it was a joke ?? Like they gave a crap about what nixon said other than as the vice president " war is over " I get maybe it was a Time everyone respected presidents & vice presidents but as the head guy said " this is just radio " also wouldnt Dickerson be ok with going to Guam since their wasnt a war going on ? I assume his job was just radio & would be in Guam. Radio is a cush job if u have to get drafted or already in the armed forces as a career . Even so any place in vietnam was not 100% safe. At least if " nothing's going on in guam " u are much safer.
Anyway a radio gig like all the men their are involved in , are so lucky to be doing that. Like I said maybe not 100% safe but still the safest job to have there. Not out in the fields literally wondering if ur gonna be shot kidnapped & tortured or step on a land mine. Or have to kill other human beings. Also it's so disgustingly hot in vietnam. That humid hot that is so uncomfortable & ur in a full uniform carrying weapons & supplies. They are in a nice air conditioned building all day. I wonder how a guy like Dickerson or any of the other djs got that cushy job. My grandfather had a cushy job but was not nearly as good as this. He was a cook for the soldiers. He had it so much better than the field men but still he had to cook all day in a hot kitchen. He was just thrilled he was not on the front lines at least. I respect Muhammad Ali so much bc when he was drafted they def would have given him some type of entertainment job . Maybe radio or a kitchen job. Instead he gave up the greatest title in the world , lost years of his prime which slowed him down a lot which made him vulnerable. I believe many feel he got Parkinson's from all the blows he took to the head. Unless I'm wrong & he was getting parkinsons no matter what but I'm pretty positive drs have said that taking all those hard blows to the brain brought on Parkinson's. He was also punchy. That man loved boxing so much & gave it up & his belt to protest the war in general & protest how this country sent many young black men to war. To me that's what made ali a hero.
Respects to your Grandfather's Service in Nam. Yet I'm sure he would tell you. Vietnam was Screwed for all in the beginning. One-Like Korea, it was never Declared. Two-There was no such thing as a Front Line. So no one was safe. Three- The Assholes that sent them. Never allowed them to win. That is what I remember. Being told by Vietnam Veterans who where there.
I Remember in an episode of MASH they were in the operating room and news came on about the French troops in Vietnam fighting Ho Chi Min. MASH was Korea 1950 to 53. I'm too old and cripple now. But if called I'd go. Ali was a chump.
Afghanistan has been another Endless mess. Robin Williams will be missed.
love this movie. #guam
It's a one way trip. He will never get back to Special Forces. A general would put the mark of Cain on his personnel file.
Me too. 🤣😂👍
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I know several higher officers that could be said of!
Been many guys i wanted to say that to
The blue cord is worn on your right side NOT your left.
I read some where that uniforms have to be little off for movies not sure if that is true but have noticed ribbons out of order and things like that as well.
@@craigcromer3931 you'll notice veterans wearing the uniform wrong on youtube for this exact reason.
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What if instead he’d gone up to SGM Dickerson and just offered him a hug and that he was sorry about the mess he caused and tells him goodbye? That would have really confused the man and maybe even soften him up a bit! 😂
Amn Cronauer would have been promptly DECKED.
GUAM!?
Never ever, screw with a general.
Love how the General does the dirty thing he knows he has to because his hands be forced but he also uses that same power to punish the SGM for forcing his hand and being a fucking asshole. Its very likely that be the last posting of his career and would kill any attempts to stay in much longer.
Can you write complete sentences?
@@seanwebb605 Sorry didnt realize this was a graded english essay. Ill do better next time professor weeb :)
@@shireyed I seriously doubt that you can.
@@seanwebb605 doubt is the killer of integrity. I'm sure if I try really hard I can meet your high standards for RUclips comments.
@@shireyedIt definitely be all that you said!
Just kidding!😊
Why does it say "FGood"?
A Brigadier General is not that loose or laid back in reality. They’re supposed to be strict, uptight, and stuck-up.
Like he said...."It's just Radio".....
I found that the more senior officers were untolds more relaxed in dealing with the "other ranks" than the
junior officers were (The "One pippers"; straight outta officer cadet school, complete with pimples,
not finished puberty, but a platoon commander).
In all fairness, some of the "young ones" were great, we respected them,
we would have crawled over a mile of broken glass for them.
Depends on the officer. I've found most generals and/or admirals are quite personable, but you let them "drop the rank" FIRST, don't EVER speak to them like they're "Uncle Fred" on your own! Else, you WILL hear about it, just not from that general, but YOUR CO and supervisor, and they will likely not be very happy with you...
Indeed...Crap rolls downhill@@selfdo
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I miss Robin Williams
Saw the man live twice-Weapons of Mass Distraction tour. Good show, but if it had been Live on Broadway, or Night at the Met I wouldn't have survived. I laughed so hard as a kid listening to those I needed to use my asthma inhaler multiple times.
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the message here is that the lower ranks want to do the best they can, upper ranks want to support and give their soldiers the best they can, but all the stupidity and arrogance is coming from the middle ranks.
Maybe he's the one who'd like to give it.
never like Robin Williams, even as a kid, i knew his personality was coke derived. it wasnt funny
Ww2 officers had more humour than cia trained idiots in pentaGONE