well, geting smashed by the n#1 team in the world is kinda legit. You can't compare yourself to much higher levels, so you compare to equal levels, so, NA vs EU, as long as it is a healthy competition, it just makes for good fun and chances to improve
theguyshadows I dont wanna to sound "racist" or something but it's enough to look at them and know they are not Americans.Biofrost is Chinese btw and xmithie is from Phillippines.
OMG really? Let's first talk a little bit about 2015 worlds, each EU and NA had 3 teams in the group stage, no NA team advanced from the groups while 2 EU reached semi-finals. Second thing, OG never had a member from outside EU and FNC had 2 koreans (top and jungle) midlaner was Febiven(Netherlands), Rekkles(Sweeden) and YellowStar(France). Oh almost forgot, show me that NA World Champions Skins....oh sorry :( #Feelsbadman
+JustPacPac Alright lemme help you with that. FNC world class material thanks to Huni and RO's synergy. Without them, they are shit. They somehow even managed to lose to C9 in a game where FNC threw super hard and got pentakilled by a D2 player. OG they made it out of group beating TSM with a washed up dyrus and lustboy, and a gankless santorin. They also beat LGD who shit the bed. They beat KT, which was impressive but they were first round exits. OG managed to luck out and face FW. Arguably the worst team to make it out of Groups. C9 and CLG would've easily beat FW. PAIN even beat the FW. Keep thinking they are good, they were just extremely lucky.
I've always supported EU and for 5 seasons straight EU was better but in season 6 after NA has finally taken the majority of the best EU players they're the stronger region right now. Means nothing though cause Korea's gonna anal both regions...
theguyshadows 4:07, You guys have the better food, congratulations. I understand it was an overall victory for Currywurst, just kinda bad wording on my part
its honestly hard to judge which region is better atm because of the different formats. Make Bo3 the standard format. Bo1s dont give enough competitive experience to the players, and Bo2s are just clunky and awkward and skew standings
Why do I get the feeling that eu is about to he assimilated into n/a for one big league? Eu numbers have been struggling and recently their casters have been casting in N/A. Also they just had a schedule change. As league gets bigger I can see their being 1 lcs. Just like pro sports leagues.
nymx No, actually The Chinese and korean leagues are owned by separate companies who are in partnership with riot. The LCS is owned and hosted by riot, so they have the liberty to do whatever they want with the LCS.
nymx I don't think you understand how partnerships and contracts work. or the world for that matter. Riot games can't just tell the owners of OGN that they are taking over their league and moving their players to america. Do you realize how foolish you sound?
tbh. As a NA player.any na teams can beat eu teams, but they can't beat the top eu teams easily. The low tier eu teams are trash, the high tier eu teams are just a lot better than na. Like fnc, no koreans, still great. And a lot of na players are from eu
NA vs EU matchup and why? Top: Huni: god tier top laner. Part of the historic Fnatic season where they were one teamfight away from beating SKT T1 at MSI Jungle: Reignover: god tier synergy with Huni. More professional time to flourish than Trick Mid: Bjergsen: undoubted best mid in NA. Better than the EU mid's this season ADC: Zven: higher kda than Doublelift. more high level tournaments, as Doublelift's success only started after TSM Support: tossup either Mithy or Biofrost: on experience I go Mithy because this is Biofrost's first split with TSM Total: NA: 3 EU: 2 2016 season better teams go to NA with IMT and TSM > G2 and Splyce
+Why is this here? audeck Awwh butthurt EU fan.. hmm the the top 5 teams of NA, TSM 4/5 Americans IMT 3/5 CLG 5/5 Americans C9 5/5 Americans and Liquid 5/5 if this split ends Huni, Reig and Sven are going to be Americans lmao..
OCE doesn't have a national team (no region does), but they already have a league (OPL). The season just ended and playoffs are coming, the winner goes to the Wildcard Tournament (the best Brazil, SE Asian, LatAm, Russian teams compete) and the two winners there goes to worlds.
Echo Fox would win vs Roccat coz they got Froggen oh wait Froggen is from EU.TSM biggest strenght is theyre midlane God Bjergsen, oh wait hes from EU too :O
Biofrost is Chinese, and Svenskeren is from Denmark, like Bjergsen. The only reason why TSM is good, coz they got Svenskeren who babysits Bjergsen in mid... But I'll give you that, Doublelift is good.
I was wondering why they were talking so quickly, and then I realized is still had the 1.25 speed up from watching dyrus lmao.
LOL
XDDD
Savage
Ehh
+Hi im Gosu u cant lol
That feel when little guys EU and NA fights each other everytime and get smashed 1 time perk years by father KR. Feelsbadman
ikr
well, geting smashed by the n#1 team in the world is kinda legit. You can't compare yourself to much higher levels, so you compare to equal levels, so, NA vs EU, as long as it is a healthy competition, it just makes for good fun and chances to improve
+UltraeVires tfw good enough to be the top 2 teams at worlds
EU as represented by a south African and an American...
Says Second Korean League(NA)
NA full of EU and Koreans players you dont have more than 5 good na players.
Salty AF, kid. Hai, Sneaky, Meteos, Biofrost, Doublelift, Hauntzer, Aphro, Xmithie, Pobelter, Wildturtle, Adrian, Dardoch.
Edge Aren't real Americans? Wtf do you mean not real Americans?
theguyshadows I dont wanna to sound "racist" or something but it's enough to look at them and know they are not Americans.Biofrost is Chinese btw and xmithie is from Phillippines.
This is the definition of a clown fiesta
+UltraeVires Same shit every fucking time. lmao stop
UltraeVires Not tired of proven wrong every single worlds are you?
Sjoks is in EU guys :D
Sjokz is in my heart
This is not EU vs NA but a battle between which casters will agree to let the other casters win
Why was there an NA caster in the EU team? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
clever:)
Nah man eu has zero casting talent gotta import that shit from the u s of the as :3.
Because the premise of the show wants a debate going on. If things are always the same, then most answers will be predictable.
Isn't pyro in the EU region?
well its obvious, eu isn't big enough to have everything - we produce great players, na - casters for them
"Loose or Buttoned-up"
I like how their stylist made their attires opposing as well.
I'm from Germany and I prefer Hotdogs.
There is no question, Reignover is the monster of a jungler. Trick is nothing compared to Reignover
Trick aint bad but Reignover is probably the best EU/Na jungler right now.
Damn youre a true american moron. Reignover is overrated af
+angelgu323 right
+SLiCe3000 Last year no one in EU said that lmao now he is overrated
that whole fucking team is overrated
40% of TSM's lineup is from EU :D
at least we dont need two koreans carry to bring the team to international stage
That's so true .
+Andy LEE no you need 5 koreans in team xD you only buy eu and korean players cuz you have so little good na players.
+Edge Without Huni and Reig last year @ worlds Fnatic wouldve been destroyed
+Edge 4 Americans in TSM if this split ends Sven is a American too then lmao
Remember NA 0-10 and EU x2 in semi finals :)
oh yea, they're talking about now though
Remember the most recent tournament g2-8?
+MegaOopla Yeah g2 was shit
Can't go to far in the past, can you? Don't want to bring up S4 worlds?
+MegaOopla remember tsm 2-8 last year in msi
Kobe missed his chance to actually drop the F bomb during that slide
a south african and 3 americans
The "F-bomb" question made me literally LOL
This was amazing. Need to get more NA vs EU moments in PTL.
coming from germany i hate to say it, but Na looks more impressive this season.
Please dont shoot me
coming from the USA i hate to say it, but EU looks more impressive this season.
Please dont shoot me
+Cyvan comming from uganda, i hate to say it but india looks more impressive this season Please dont shoot me
Coming from Syria I hate to say it, but the Kurds are looking more impressive this season. Please don't behead me
EU>>> NotAmericans
*shots fired
Extra Ugly
not really
the only eu team to actually do good only had 1 eu and 4 koreans and that was fnatic when they didnt lose all split.
OMG really? Let's first talk a little bit about 2015 worlds, each EU and NA had 3 teams in the group stage, no NA team advanced from the groups while 2 EU reached semi-finals.
Second thing, OG never had a member from outside EU and FNC had 2 koreans (top and jungle) midlaner was Febiven(Netherlands), Rekkles(Sweeden) and YellowStar(France).
Oh almost forgot, show me that NA World Champions Skins....oh sorry :(
#Feelsbadman
+JustPacPac Alright lemme help you with that. FNC world class material thanks to Huni and RO's synergy. Without them, they are shit. They somehow even managed to lose to C9 in a game where FNC threw super hard and got pentakilled by a D2 player. OG they made it out of group beating TSM with a washed up dyrus and lustboy, and a gankless santorin. They also beat LGD who shit the bed. They beat KT, which was impressive but they were first round exits. OG managed to luck out and face FW. Arguably the worst team to make it out of Groups. C9 and CLG would've easily beat FW. PAIN even beat the FW. Keep thinking they are good, they were just extremely lucky.
inb4 NA goes 8 and 0 on the first day then 0 and 10 immediately after
the current which region is better arguement and memes can only be decided by the most recent international tournament. *whispers vacation*
I love the taste of EU salt
I love the taste of better region
I've always supported EU and for 5 seasons straight EU was better but in season 6 after NA has finally taken the majority of the best EU players they're the stronger region right now. Means nothing though cause Korea's gonna anal both regions...
season 4 is debatable. NA 2nd seed beat EU 1st seed in groups
C9 also beat FNC in groups(once). Yet C9 didn't make it past groups while FNC was in the semis.(Season 5)
+Sarcastic Ant hence why I said season 4
What do you mean they took the majority of the best EU players? All the good imports are Koreans lmao
I would agree that in 4th season there were arguments for the 2 top NA teams, but for the rest of the league, EU was way way ahead of NA.
Phreak is saying that Currywurst is better because its German food, but Hot Dogs are also from Germany so there's that
Phreak didn't say that Currywurst are better. Are you even paying attention?
theguyshadows 4:07, You guys have the better food, congratulations. I understand it was an overall victory for Currywurst, just kinda bad wording on my part
EU has become less competitive than NA, therefore NA is better and more entertaining. BTW I love Kobe, he's my favourite.
Do you know what competitive means? EU standings are much closer
That's because all of EU is equally bad.
atleast they didnt go0/9 in their group stages @ wordls
lol we are talking about now, ummmmm i think ur NO.1 Eu team only beats wild card team in MSI????
top kek
TSM vs G2
*cough* *cough*
MSI 2017
EU won worlds in Season 1 but most NA fans say that it doesn't count, yet Season 1 is the only time NA ever got to semis.
Gonna be fun to see the fanboys when TSM don't make it past groups this year either
EU always goes further than NA at Worlds.
The best player on NA LCS is from EU.
We have Sjokz. We win.
Going back and watching after 2016 worlds that question is really painful no matter what region you're from FeelsBadMan
Yet another NA vs EU fight while they wait in line to get stomped by KR.
we have faith in our regions, even though KR is strong. WE BELIEVE
wait I just realized this was a years ago...
Where is the trump or brexit question?
Europe ALWAYS went further in international than North America, no matter who you like the most it's true :)
I'm from Europe but NA is way more interesting right now, and the level is higher overall.
NA = Alpha
EU = Beta
lol eu is alpha, Eu is older.
WHY DO THEY CALL THE HANDEGG A FOOTBALL?
Yeah because FOOTBALL is a sport played with your Hands...RIGHT ??? COME ON AMERICA WAKE UP !
Sjokz really does win this. Dayum.
This being recommended to me just now couldn't be more relevant
This is so chaotic with 4 people LOL
its honestly hard to judge which region is better atm because of the different formats. Make Bo3 the standard format. Bo1s dont give enough competitive experience to the players, and Bo2s are just clunky and awkward and skew standings
This is the highlight of PTL for me haha
as european the word "soccer" alone just triggers me
Na > Eu, I agree, but Na is EU+KR players so that means EU+kR > EU ?
does primetimeleague not exist anymore?
where's the question about host?
How do Phreak knew about "last slide"? Nice show rito
Reignover has placed 4th in worlds, but it was with an European team lmao
Well Americans are originally European lol
reformed
DBb35 *boom* rekted all
CAN WE HAVE THIS BACK FOR MSI
why wasn't this on my feed? omfg
Quite chaotic , most of the time you do not understand what is going on
i am from Germany, and its so funny how they pronounce Currywurst ^^
I think they should just battle it out with wet noodles lol
Huehue "Bjerg is EU". He counts as a foreigner if he joined an EU team now. Bjerg is NA boys.
Nope he is not. Bjergsen is a Dane, and so am I.
Okay but check out Kobe's jawline in the thumbnail
Taiwan #1
That's what I was thinking 😂😂
Thats why clg beat them 3-0 at msi right?
MingLee Taiwan numba wan MingLee
China #4
TAIWAN NAMBAH WAN!
Eu should've said that RO was successful internationally because he was at EU that time. haha
Why do I get the feeling that eu is about to he assimilated into n/a for one big league? Eu numbers have been struggling and recently their casters have been casting in N/A. Also they just had a schedule change. As league gets bigger I can see their being 1 lcs. Just like pro sports leagues.
Well NA pays a LOT more than the EU lcs,that's why so many pros have been migrating including Huni,Reignover,Froggen,Yolostar etc
nymx No, actually The Chinese and korean leagues are owned by separate companies who are in partnership with riot. The LCS is owned and hosted by riot, so they have the liberty to do whatever they want with the LCS.
nymx I don't think you understand how partnerships and contracts work. or the world for that matter. Riot games can't just tell the owners of OGN that they are taking over their league and moving their players to america. Do you realize how foolish you sound?
NA FTW (even though EU is better)
It isn't.
nice b8
because they have eu players
+Marcel Läuft Bei Dir Only Sven and Froggen? lol
bjergsen
feel so sorry for people that have to sit through those eu casters
Is EU LCS still relevant?
Let's see that at the Worlds.
Gdzie jesteście brązowe myśli ?
don't show me food... please ...
i was waiting for the question including bjergsen or jensen for america LUL
1st question "NA" jungler isn't even NA Kappa
Why is quickshot there ? You know cause of brexit
He's not even british ...
Jeans vs Suit pants
why are EU casters in Los Angeles?
Before u laugh at kids who believe in santa you have to laugh first at those muricans who believe that NA is stronger than EU.
And again at the muricans who think NA is any better.
I'm from EU, gimme that fkn hot dog!
Currywurst sounds so nice xD
let the roosters fight. the wolf is waiting while he is laughing.
Guess Phreak is eating his words, seeing phoenix rekt tsm XD
i love NA, esp the casters
AuTSM Tilted since MSI FreeSM
the salt is strong.
G2-8 remember?
tiltes since msi?! lol they are 15-1 atm
+IDontKnow0104 G2 undefeated lel
i guess we won´t know which team is better untill they might face each other at worlds
NA Video, guys
Never forget s5 NA Worlds fiasco.
Just please... xD
never forget s4 eu worlds fiasco
s5 fiasco 10x bigger dont forget s1 s2 s3 to
Still big plays came from EU bud Peke VS Dade never forget ;)
EU= 1 world cup
NA=0 world cup
No comment!
Gladly they do not talk all at the same time so i can understand them.
More like Meteos vs Svenskeren. That's the right slide.
can't hear quickshot bcoz phreak talks too much
Hotdogs are german
Phreak>EUNA, this guy could make you buy an ice cream even if you live in the north pole, no fair m8
EU > NA every day of the week. No doubt about it.
EU this EleGiggle NA that EleGiggle NA 0-10 worlds LUL
PJSalt
+Mikeylee4 yea they didnt they was 0-11
Twitch Emotes in youtube, so sad.
+Edge *they was* does not exist bro...
Pantheon on Cloud 9 yea my english sucks not my first language
anyway Will C NINE
Where's the beard?
tbh. As a NA player.any na teams can beat eu teams, but they can't beat the top eu teams easily. The low tier eu teams are trash, the high tier eu teams are just a lot better than na. Like fnc, no koreans, still great. And a lot of na players are from eu
NA vs EU matchup and why?
Top: Huni: god tier top laner. Part of the historic Fnatic season where they were one teamfight away from beating SKT T1 at MSI
Jungle: Reignover: god tier synergy with Huni. More professional time to flourish than Trick
Mid: Bjergsen: undoubted best mid in NA. Better than the EU mid's this season
ADC: Zven: higher kda than Doublelift. more high level tournaments, as Doublelift's success only started after TSM
Support: tossup either Mithy or Biofrost: on experience I go Mithy because this is Biofrost's first split with TSM
Total: NA: 3 EU: 2
2016 season better teams go to NA with IMT and TSM > G2 and Splyce
I think perkz might actually be better than Bjergsen
there is better then bjergsen in eu
You've only listed EU and Asian players, where are the god tier actually American players?
Oh yeah, forgot NA sucks
+Why is this here? audeck Awwh butthurt EU fan.. hmm the the top 5 teams of NA, TSM 4/5 Americans IMT 3/5 CLG 5/5 Americans C9 5/5 Americans and Liquid 5/5 if this split ends Huni, Reig and Sven are going to be Americans lmao..
Man they need to play 4 years to be american now. And bjerg sven jensen are from eu
Only EU would settle for ties
If Australia made a LoL team, they will join Asian LCS?
they have a league named oceania which consists of australia and new zealand.
OCE doesn't have a national team (no region does), but they already have a league (OPL).
The season just ended and playoffs are coming, the winner goes to the Wildcard Tournament (the best Brazil, SE Asian, LatAm, Russian teams compete) and the two winners there goes to worlds.
+Patters dont forget turkish region
Both NA and EU had bad time.
0:20 those are the flag colours of russia france the Uk and the netherlands so jokes on you
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO LIKE PYRA?!?!
Still waiting for NA to win a World Cup :)
Echo Fox would win vs Roccat coz they got Froggen oh wait Froggen is from EU.TSM biggest strenght is theyre midlane God Bjergsen, oh wait hes from EU too :O
Cool. Want a cookie?
What about doublelift? Oh wait american, biofrost, the bard god? Oh wait, canadian, and hauntzer?
Biofrost is Chinese, and Svenskeren is from Denmark, like Bjergsen. The only reason why TSM is good, coz they got Svenskeren who babysits Bjergsen in mid... But I'll give you that, Doublelift is good.
They’re all just yelling and it’s so hard to even tell what they’re saying
At least there is no trump to be found in EU
Eu had poor arguments, put me in front of them, that won't be the same.
You're funny.
would be surprised if g2 took a game from tsm honestly