My question is if the president of South Africa insists he is going to make sure that M23 leaves Goma, then this indicates clearly he is fighting, not only a peace maker. Peace keepers are supposed to stand between Congolese forces and M23 to ensure these two don't fight as the peace processes are going on. But if fighting continues, what is their role in Congo?
Take note of what insited Pres: Ramaphosa to say what He said, that's not someone who's really into Fighting against Rwanda or side by side with Congo. Remember in the 1st place, M23 fired shots targeting specifically at SAn soldiers not even recognizing them as Force peace. If Kegame didn't do it, then why He be so defensive and waging for a War against SA?
it is time for Africa to have a combined military force to fight against government gangsterism ......I hope that they can use this to maintain peace in Africa
Kagame government is only made up of Tutsis. The Belgians taught Tutsis to believe that they are superior to the Hutus. Hence Hutus have been relegated to second class citizens. Tutsis will always find it difficult to marry a Hutu. Since the arrival of Kagame, Hutus are the silent people of Rwanda suffering under oppression. The only reason it's not been seen is because Rwanda is led by a dictator who will only show you what he wants you to see. People talk about the Tutsis genocide but they forget that after the arrival of Kagame, Hutus were slaughtered like animals.
This is true, at the same time SA should consider its approach more carefully and consider how it prepares and supports its troops if it really wants to send them. . . Instead of picking fights, politicians should act in the best interest of their own and their neighbors.
Is South Africa real scare Rwanda answer is no but we're Africans brother we dont want War Africa against Africa no it won't work but Mr Ramaphosa mst be a Mediator for both Countrie Congo and Rwanda. If they withdraw it wll sho w the weak of SADF finish.
There are no peacemaker there, That Kagame said it nicely, Quote from Kagame: Ramaphosa is also there pretending of playing peacemaker, now it comes out that Rwanda is behind all this and now selfish to share what is has been stealing and Ramaphosa doesn't wanna let go. M23 its just a name but Rwanda is the one behind this war, If only you have ever been to that part of congo and live there!!!
@sivad7631 speaking a language doesn't make you one. You speaking French in France does it make you French!!! Or You speaking Portuguese in Portugal does it make you Portuguese ???
Rwanda has a genuine problem with the Congolese instability and inability to restore sovereignty, stability and peace in the restive Kivu region. Alot of Rwanda's internal post genocide destabilizing factors have been allowed to regroup and fester in the DRC. Whilst I may NOT agree with every intervention decision of the RDF, I trust (with great concerns) the innocence of their current judgment and action in the Kivu's.... SANDF, is an EXQUISITE regional stabilizing force, but it has a problem.in that it's diplomatic civil polity is a legal and lawful adversarial JUSTIFIED challenge to the regional imposed GLOBAL power brokers; the forces against a defiant Yemeni insurrection in the seas... There is more to the above intrigues that the SADC-EAC-Igad has to circumnavigate...
M23 are freedom fighters 💪, fight for their right , no one can stand Infront of them , , m23 is not Rwanda , , m23 are Congolese kinyarwandofone , all world know the true but they keep quiet
@@MaranathaHopeso u are telling me that 94 refugees renamed that place, because if u didn't know those places had had Rwandan names since ages such as Rubaya meaning valley, Kanyabayonga, Nyirangongo, Masisi, Bweramana etc... it was like that even before the 60's let alone the 90's, do urself a favor and read history or even listen to mbeki's recent speech!, if u are South Africa
@ by your logic the city of Port Elizabeth in South Africa belongs to Great Britain. This is a 1994 problem. Stop trying to spin the narrative. Prior 94 there was no ethnic issue in Eastern DRC. I have read many books about this issue.
Sadc can't bring solution will make tings was just like mozambigue, sadf must come back home, all African countries don't want democratic, let them fighting
I think all the accusation about Rwanda's military support to m23 is absolutely wrong because if Rwanda supported m23 I'm sure it would be in Kinshasa by now
@MaranathaHope Who is not celebrating??? Even people in Goma self are celebrating, .... we are celebrating because we have over 180,000 Congolese refugees who are yet to go home ! We are celebrating because finally Congo is going to have peace if M23 takeover! Whatever the western media are feeding you is very wrong
There should be term limits for African heads of states or heads of governments. Kagame has been president since 2000. Is he the only Rwandan that is capable to be President of Rwanda?
We South Africans don't want war with Rwanda.
Likewise bro, we want peace in our time, no senseless wars, love y'all from Rwanda
We are brothers , Ramaphosa and his friends cannot drag us into this.
Paul Kegame must stop destabilising the Congo for plunder.
The West is using Kegame for the exploitation of the Congo@@TopG-Africa
Kagame has no friend ou brother in Africa.@@DaudReece
My question is if the president of South Africa insists he is going to make sure that M23 leaves Goma, then this indicates clearly he is fighting, not only a peace maker. Peace keepers are supposed to stand between Congolese forces and M23 to ensure these two don't fight as the peace processes are going on. But if fighting continues, what is their role in Congo?
Take note of what insited Pres: Ramaphosa to say what He said, that's not someone who's really into Fighting against Rwanda or side by side with Congo. Remember in the 1st place, M23 fired shots targeting specifically at SAn soldiers not even recognizing them as Force peace. If Kegame didn't do it, then why He be so defensive and waging for a War against SA?
Kegame is deliberately fighting a War of plunder against Congo. He doesn't want peace.
M23 is the face of Paul Kegame
Politicians dnt fight wars.your children do.Think on that real hard..
These greedy people sacrifice people's life unfortunately it is their culture 😢😢😢😢
We have a political problem in Mozambique. What is SADC doing about it?
There is nothing to gain in Mozambique. SA president is a puppet and protecting his puppet master’s interests.
The SADEC is a big problem in this case
it is time for Africa to have a combined military force to fight against government gangsterism ......I hope that they can use this to maintain peace in Africa
That ☠️ Tshirt is fire 🔥 ❤
SADC stay away from M23 is better option
Kagame government is only made up of Tutsis. The Belgians taught Tutsis to believe that they are superior to the Hutus. Hence Hutus have been relegated to second class citizens. Tutsis will always find it difficult to marry a Hutu. Since the arrival of Kagame, Hutus are the silent people of Rwanda suffering under oppression. The only reason it's not been seen is because Rwanda is led by a dictator who will only show you what he wants you to see. People talk about the Tutsis genocide but they forget that after the arrival of Kagame, Hutus were slaughtered like animals.
How are you claiming to be countries facts, do you know the kingdom of Banyarwanda dates way before Belgium
@@Countries-Facts you have an FDLR ideology it seems you are one of them
Rwanda must leave congo alone, and will leave it alone.
This is true, at the same time SA should consider its approach more carefully and consider how it prepares and supports its troops if it really wants to send them. . . Instead of picking fights, politicians should act in the best interest of their own and their neighbors.
That T shirt you're wearing matters the most
😂😂😂😂😂
Is South Africa real scare Rwanda answer is no but we're Africans brother we dont want War Africa against Africa no it won't work but Mr Ramaphosa mst be a Mediator for both Countrie Congo and Rwanda. If they withdraw it wll sho w the weak of SADF finish.
He's not mediating, he's involved, he actually first wrote a tweet and later deleted threatening Rwanda
Kegame doesn't want peace. Kegame wants continued exploitation and plundering of the Congo for the West
What has SADC ever discussed? It's just a waste of time and much needed money.
Why is the Rwandan army entirely composed of Tutsi? I have never understood that situation.
Ask your mother
It's not that . Rwandan army base on school levels and knowledge. Those rumors are not typical
It's a tribal regime
No,
Actually in RWANDA, no Tutsi no Hutu, they are all RWANDAN!
To understand more, Visit RWANDA!
And why is SA army 80 percent Zulus. We need a coloured President, Chief Justice and Army General
What is DRC promising SA to drag SADC into this conflict,
Gold
unimaginable wealth....
Peace for all of Africa
There are no peacemaker there,
That Kagame said it nicely,
Quote from Kagame: Ramaphosa is also there pretending of playing peacemaker, now it comes out that Rwanda is behind all this and now selfish to share what is has been stealing and Ramaphosa doesn't wanna let go.
M23 its just a name but Rwanda is the one behind this war,
If only you have ever been to that part of congo and live there!!!
Are you saying that part has no native Kinyarwanda speakers?
@sivad7631 speaking a language doesn't make you one.
You speaking French in France does it make you French!!! Or You speaking Portuguese in Portugal does it make you Portuguese ???
@ Are you saying M23 arent congolese?
@@sivad7631 exactly the question you asked and I have answered you already
@@nawej1 Then you the wrong person to engage with
What’s the point of a baboon parliament?
SADC doesn't have an equivalent of IGAD, and the problem for Kinshasa is that it must address the EAC....
Rwanda has a genuine problem with the Congolese instability and inability to restore sovereignty, stability and peace in the restive Kivu region. Alot of Rwanda's internal post genocide destabilizing factors have been allowed to regroup and fester in the DRC. Whilst I may NOT agree with every intervention decision of the RDF, I trust (with great concerns) the innocence of their current judgment and action in the Kivu's....
SANDF, is an EXQUISITE regional stabilizing force, but it has a problem.in that it's diplomatic civil polity is a legal and lawful adversarial JUSTIFIED challenge to the regional imposed GLOBAL power brokers; the forces against a defiant Yemeni insurrection in the seas...
There is more to the above intrigues that the SADC-EAC-Igad has to circumnavigate...
M23 are freedom fighters 💪, fight for their right , no one can stand Infront of them , , m23 is not Rwanda , , m23 are Congolese kinyarwandofone , all world know the true but they keep quiet
1994 tutsi refugee claiming to be Congolese!
Ungrateful
DRC hospitality was the sin they committed in 1994
Every thief has an alibi, it's not surprising if M23 are Congolese Tutsis,not Rwandan
True!
Always TRUTH wins!
@@MaranathaHopeso u are telling me that 94 refugees renamed that place, because if u didn't know those places had had Rwandan names since ages such as Rubaya meaning valley, Kanyabayonga, Nyirangongo, Masisi, Bweramana etc... it was like that even before the 60's let alone the 90's, do urself a favor and read history or even listen to mbeki's recent speech!, if u are South Africa
@ by your logic the city of Port Elizabeth in South Africa belongs to Great Britain.
This is a 1994 problem. Stop trying to spin the narrative.
Prior 94 there was no ethnic issue in Eastern DRC. I have read many books about this issue.
KISEKEDI played and manipulated SADC. So SADC needs to go out of this big shame
Paul Kagame is sponsored
Sadc can't bring solution will make tings was just like mozambigue, sadf must come back home, all African countries don't want democratic, let them fighting
Send Zimbabweans there at DRC
Why
I think all the accusation about Rwanda's military support to m23 is absolutely wrong because if Rwanda supported m23 I'm sure it would be in Kinshasa by now
@rukundojoshua8602 even your own national TV host are celebrating M23 territorial gain. You can't fool us boi
@MaranathaHope Who is not celebrating??? Even people in Goma self are celebrating, .... we are celebrating because we have over 180,000 Congolese refugees who are yet to go home !
We are celebrating because finally Congo is going to have peace if M23 takeover!
Whatever the western media are feeding you is very wrong
@labeza_rw can you tell me who is supplying state of the art weapons to m23 to commit atrocious crimes in the DRC?
I have the rumours that are not 13 they are 30
Why are wearing the losers fc jersey.
I came here to laugh and be offended, lets see what you got.
There should be term limits for African heads of states or heads of governments. Kagame has been president since 2000. Is he the only Rwandan that is capable to be President of Rwanda?
None your business! As Rwandan we really love him and we chose him for no regret ✅
As tutsis not all rwandan @@vitaramadhan321
Why African. Look at Saudi Arabia, Qatar, China, Russia, British Monarch etc term limits and check whether they are part of Africa
@@mlkjnr2016 UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan, Morocco
Africans love dictators 😂😂😂🤞🤞🤞
Just add DRC to SADC start working from there on
Mozambique is a member of SADC, it's also culturally part of the Swahili coast, outside of the EAC or Igad---how is Maputo fairing so far...???
DRC is in SADC . Hence, we are there.
@ "there" doing what exactly....???
@D-E-S_8559 dancing to Amapiano
@D-E-S_8559 Im also intrigued;
I have the rumours that are not 13 they are 30