Walter is definitely packing some BDE (big dad energy). Especially that one call when he says one of the companies doesn't value 621 but is going to talk with them.
Man, i used to disliked walter when i found out he used Raven for his personal vendetta, but after a while, when he changed his tone towards you, as if he is talking to a friend than a hound to be left dead, i began to sympathize with him, and chose to finish his mission first. And up till the end, walter truly became our friend, and im sad on how he was treated when he became an "re-educated" puppet for the arquebes, it made me hate v.ii snail more at Ng+.
@@poweredbythemakyostar8896 Yeah, he was probably somewhere nearby, maybe in a orbital satellite. Snail implied they already know where he is when he incapacitated us. Aquerbus is pretty much the top dog at that point and even taken control of the PCA security system, it not hard for them to find out his location.
Between the comments that Sulla makes, and how Michigan talks to Walter in the first audio call they make to each other, as well as other NPC's responses (like Carla asking about the other augmented that were previously under his command) is that this isnt Walter's first time trying to kill the coral. Sulla has apparently killed a number of his "hounds" trying to attack the facility he is guarding. With C4-621 being the first AC pilot to actually succeed. And one could infer that Michigan has sent mercs to work for Walter considering how they talk business and how readily and easily Walter gets jobs with Balem/Redguns in missions compared to the outright hostility of Arquebus when it comes to mercenaries. Arquebus outright tells Walter that his "muts" are unwanted (probably some bad previous history) and its only after 621 pulls off some crazy shit (like Wallclimber and Ice Worm) that they finally recognize that Walter finally has a good pilot. There is definitely a long history and previous incursions between Walter, Michigan and Carla. Considering C4-621 can actually beat top tier mercs like the current holder of the title "Raven" and survive against multiple C-Weapons when most AC pilots are overwhelmed generally by them (Like in the instance of Ice Worm, 4 AC pilots go up against it, all but 1 mech is wrecked), there is legitimately something special about 621. And while Walter originally talks about how all of this is a job and dont get involved, Walter quickly changes as he gets defensive and protective of 621. Where you get less busywork missions and more important missions as well as figuring out that the voices in 621's head are either a Coral thats attached to him or a figment of his degrading body and wants 621 to get the augmentation issues fixed so he can live a good life.
I can see Michigan and Walter being old friends/colleagues especially how Michigan just forgives Walter and 621s betrayal, Walter even paying for Iguazu and the other guy's repair cost.
Great write-up! I'll also add that Sulla has been working for ALLMIND, while the Arena bio for Waltuh says "that man has greatly delayed our efforts." So he's definitely been going at it for a while and could have been the biggest obstacle to ALLMIND. Though exactly how long (and how he has the resources to fund a private war) are unclear, but could make for some awesome DLC/spinoff title.
The interesting thing about 621 Raven is that he's a Gen 4 augmented which is considered the most outdated model of AC augmentation and many people write off 621 as just being lucky or having half decent skills until they actually fought him and discover 621s an incredible pilot with a big example being Brass Ox who is legitimately stunned that 621 was able to fight 3 veteran Nest Mercs at the same time on even ground and responding in disbelief. Really goes to show that 621 is a legitimately powerful AC pilot relying more on skill than on their augmentations and winning despite the odds being stacked against them.
If Michigan really looked after Walter all those years ago then that does explain how pained Walter sounds when you accept the job to kill Michigan and the rest of Balam's forces, yet he doesn't stop you 😢
SPOILERS: I have this theory about the thrid ending. The main plot revolves around coral being too dangerous because it is flamable to the point of burning stars, and it can propagate, companies exploting it for profit and coral actually being sentient beings. We know that the mutation or strange behavior that the scientists notice is the coming coral release where high density of coral tends to make the coral release( this of course was stopped by the fires of ibis) So the third ending is to be different from the other two where the coral release pairs the coral to every human just like ayre and 621 are. In the game ayre is described as a wave mutation or c wave, and ayre says she is synching to our brain waves to help. Funny thing about waves is that two same waves amplify each other, so ayre is literally one with us. This explains why we are amplified and we can see the voices. We also see that raven exibits no signs of being more flamable as a result of having ayre(coral), and raven does go thru molten metal, fire, heat, even when your mech explodes it doesnt do so any differently. This implies that the pairing or (contact) with ayre does nullify the flamable properties coral has. We can see this as when we fight ayre she does blow up differently when shes by herself. So coral being paired with everyone would remove the risk of it propagating even further and being flamable. It would also make it significantly less rare and valuable of a resource solving all the problems the main plot has with coral. Thats at least my take on it
Ngl cool theory that in the end, the Allmind Ending being almost all the best outcomes of both previous endings being combined (The threat Coral poses being eliminated - Walters' Wish - and Coral being able to "live" and not be used as a mere tool - Ayres' Wish) Tho I wouldn't say that it would resolve ALL problems with Coral and in fact may even create new ones all together Sure, no more self propogating world endingly explosive particles that could expand across the universe, external problem solved, but now you have the internal problem of the people who have been "touched" by the Coral and have a synched C-Wave response. Since we know that the "voice of Coral" is not unique to 621 as seen in the Liberator ending with Walter hearing one himself and seeing Ayre somehow, and in the Allmind ending we still hear Ayre talking despite being "one" with her now, it would probably be reasonable to assume that everyone can hear their own "Coral Person" now. And since there seems to be an implication that Coral also houses replica personalities of the people that were touched by it, it seems that depending on whose C-Wave is bonded to could lead to some rather unfavorable outcomes. Maybe clashing personalities since C-Waves like Ayre have the capability to actually affect the outside world. Probably a theme for the next AC Chapter. All in all, the Allmind ending does solve alot and is seemingly the best "at present ending"... but it feels like it is also a setup for an Expansion for AC6 (Maybe DLC or a 4 Answer type deal) and I cant honestly wait to see where this is going!
The fight with Walter on board the Xylem falling into Rubicons orbit is one of the most incredible atmospheres (no pun intended) of any boss fight from any game ever. Easily the best of the three ending fights in terms of theme. Mechanically I think the main ending boss is the best. The true ending boss is sick but phase one of the fight is pretty trash and uninspired.
I believe that last bit where Walter is charging his gun, but then decides not to shoot, was him fighting back against the coral reprogramming that was forcing him to do what Arqubus wanted. His final words "You found.... A friend." He's been in your corner most of the game, even at points telling V.II Snail to put some respect on your name. I believe he became somewhat of a father figure, and he possibly would have seen what you and Ayre believed in had he not been captured around the same time you were.
It's interesting your thoughts on how Walters mom likely became a part of the coral, because throughout the game he's always going on about info and requests he's getting from his 'friend', a nameless character that seems to be communicating with him. Then at the end he tells 621 "you found a 'friend'". In my opinion, Walter is referring to Ayre being 621's friend and that throughout the game Walter himself was also in contact with a voice from the coral, possibly his mom? or maybe even professor Nagai.
Who is Walter's friend is definitely a great question though it would make a lot of sense if it's also a voice from the Coral. I also think it's quite possible that Ayre's voice could have been the voice of Walter's mom. From what Iguazu tells us, the Coral seems to only have that one voice even if it goes by different names.
@@garrulousgoldmaskWhen you get sniped by Snail and receive Walter's message after waking up he says something on the line of "621, a friend of mine's sent a request...... No, this one comes from me". That made me think that every time Walter said that he was hiding the fact that this was a personal misssion he was giving to 621, to keep things more professional since he is supposed to be a merc handler, not a mission giver.
@@YewBadger Yeah, Ayre also points out after one of his "I got this from a friend" requests that she'd tracked his communications and he'd not talked to anybody else. Although there's always the possibility that his "friend" is the dead scientist who'd left him the legacy of keeping the Coral contained. Not that he's in communication with the dead, but that he views all the missions in furtherance of that goal as being part of that friend's last request. Just like after you both are captured and he's presumed dead he leaves you that recording requesting you finish what he'd started.
Or Walter never had a “friend” in the first place. It could just be a silly excuse to make things sound less personal. It’s like asking for “research purposes”, or for “a friend” because it’s embarrassing otherwise.
In one of Professor Naggis logs he says that there is a coral wave mutation so the ibis protocol must be used. In the all mind ending, Ayer is called a coral wave mutation. It is not a hard jump to make that coral develops individual minds when a population gets dense and that these minds may stimulate further rabid growth. Basically coral got a voice it’s self and then they burned it when it understood pain.
And there's also the data log you get in the Alt Attack the Watchpoint mission which says ALLMIND detected a Wave Mutation, right before you meet Ayre.
Ok, but after she learns that she can actually pilot coral based AC's, such as the Ephemera model, then she might be able to inhabit a synthetic, cyberpunk type of body and transcend this way the "brain wife" status and become a "real wife" . A real, custom made synthetic/android body to suit all tastes 😏. So there's still hope for us.😉
Prof. Nagai's AC is at the Reach the Coral Convergence mission. Literally at the start, on top of the slim tallest building you see on your left. How do I know? That's where you can get the Data Log of his last words.
That last log made me cry. That line made sure to me that Walther is dead. But I geuss in Fires of Raven ending, even if 621 survived. What else he could live for? Everyone he knows is dead and the corporation withdraw from Rubicon as it is now a dead planet. 621 may not even survived the fire anyway. I feel sad and pain when I got that ending. Now I'm on NG+ and will see the other ending.
The Fires of Raven ending is such a Bad End. You betray and murder your only actual friend, and destroy untold lives, and for what purpose? The idea you might be saving a crappy humanity that's pretty much on course to destroy itself anyways without any external help? You're kicking the can down the road and leaving yourself either dead or so isolated and alone that you might as well be. For all that it's stupid for Allmind to betray you in the end, I think she was right that connecting humanity and the Coral was probably the only way to save humanity in the long-run.
@@Reldanliked the ending because you were avoiding galactic infection or at least infection on massive scales. In 4he new frontier, there will be new lives. New beginnings. And we shallnt exacerbate the sullied chances of mankind just to aid a newly found friend. The corporation's withdrawal means siphoning another population for resources, yes, but to aid the cause of universal survival, despite the selfishness of a many, Is a heroic act undeserved, but needed. It's a bad end. But not *The* bad end. Connecting the coral and the humans would be sufficient to aid humanity but at the cost of infecting everything else? Not necessarily. Now what I said would be righteous if it weren't for one or the endings allegedly corroborating the truth that coral would be more helpful than harmful, but in 621's mind , that most likely was the only viable option. Though yeah blowing up it again is kind of a dickish move, justificatifion aside.
in my head, in the fires of raven ending, raven gets the ending he went to rubicon to find. finish the job, undo the surgery, become normal again. and since being normal means he's no longer raven the undefeated AC mercenary pilot, he lives on in relative insignificance, somewhere in the galaxy.
Someone said it best, the first ending is about Legacy, righting the wrong of the past, and put a definitive end to the Coral war. We burn a system to do it, but it could be worse if Coral spread beyond the Rubicon system. The war for Coral would be a galaxy wide war, and if someone accidently ignite it, it could potentially burn the entire galaxy. We dont even know if humanity is that much at risk of extinction, so far it just 2 corps dicking each other and the PCA trying to tell everyone to behave with RLF fighting against their "oppressors" There is no good, bad, or true ending, it just how we feel about each. I like Walter, Carla and even Chatty, and they have sacrifice much to get here. Honoring their wish is the least I could do. For me this is the best ending, but the Liberator have more "Fuck Yeah" moments.
@@ReldanYou killed a planet to save a galaxy from getting super space nuke oil all over the place and potentially blowing the fuck up and killing everyone and everything in the future. Seems pretty reasonable. Sure you committed genocide, and everyone you'd known died along the way, but it's simply the nature of your job and they all knew what's at stake, and more importantly, you're not risking turning the whole galaxy into a powder keg.
Walter early game: 621 get off your ass and make us some money. We need to get to coral and get paid. Walter late game: Kill God and blow up this massive machine that's preventing various disasters 621: ayo what happened to MONEY
One of my fav little bits about Walter is during the swinburn quest if you agree to spare him then shoot him in the back as he Flys away the lady ask if you "learned that from Walter "
At first I was thinking that something's off about Walter, like I can't trust him, but the more I played the game the more he grew on me. //SPOILERS AHEAD// During my first and blind playthrough after hearing about Walter's legacy and final wish I just couldn't betray Carla. The ending is considered 'bad', but imo its the best one. Coral is no more and the endless cycle of Corpos' wars on Rubicon is over. It was very sad to betray Ayre like that and her bossfight dialogue was completely heartbreaking but AC6 just doesnt let you not betray any of your friends unfortunately. I like this about AC's story, very typical From Soft endings.
This Coral remind me a lot of the Philosopher stone in Full Metal Alchemist, it a very powerful energy source, but it is comprised of human souls, so the energy itself is sentient and if one soul is touched by the energy, they can hear the souls's voices.
I want to know why the original raven and branch did to anger and lead the pca to invade Rubicon remember they planned the invasion before the end of chapter one almost like the pca knew how dangerous the coreal was and tried to keep it hidden so walter makes the situation worse the pca could of been great allies
Also, swarm intelligence is the exibition of intelligent behavior by a collective, the collective is still made out of individuals. Seria and Ayre could just be individuals. I also used to thinkt that the coral was the spirit of the rubiconians when they die. As Ayre describes herself as a Rubiconian without a body, why should she have the concept of a body
I think raven leaking info about coral being on rubicon was because their crew may have been working with Walter Stk/stv’s sketches reveal them hanging around with “four mercenaries” who are mentioned a few times
I'm thinking that too! And I think Carla was also involved with Walter and those independent mercs since Nightfall Raven and Chartreuse also use parts made by RaD, who also made the AC you start the game in.
What lead you to believe Michigan is the Hero of Jupiter? Were it the two archives about Michigan beating up Iguazu and Volta real hard, and the arena entry for Iguazu that he picked a fight with the Hero of Jupiter?
I very much believe Walters technically alive in the new game++, since he was augmented so there’s a high chance he likely has new AC body somewhere on rubicon.🤔🐱
I don’t think augmentation works like that. All cases of pilots coming back after defeat are implied to be because they physically ejecting from their AC in time rather than any kind of brain downloading. G4 Volta stays dead after the failed attempt at climbing the Wall after all. So unless Walter got downloaded into ALLMIND I highly doubt he stands to make a comeback.
This could be true since the ibis weapons are autonomous except walters AC but it could be a misunderstanding in translation and only his mind is connected. Walter never appears to be near 621 on any missions so I doubt hes actually on rubicon or anywhere close
@awhellnah__ that’s specifically related to ALLMIND, I don’t know the precise details but it can seemingly absorb minds into itself or something like that.
Despite 621 being mute, it becomes clear (especially in one ending) that Walter does care for 621. I thought in calls he was just putting on a show for 621 and manipulating 621 when he defends them, but it is clearly not the case. There are no heroes and villains in this game, and I can genuinelt understand motivations. To me it makes the story and lore much more interesting to me than certain aspects of Elden Ring.
Walter cares for 621 the same way a dog-lover cares for their favorite pet. He's fond of you. He respects your skills. But ultimately you're still a number to him, and it's only through your usefulness at forwarding his plans that he even goes that far. There are multiple C4-6XX's who he's gotten killed doing his dirty work before you came along. The only major difference is that you're extremely competent. Rusty and Carla are fond of you as well, but they're not your friend or buddy. You have their respect, but they'd stab you in the back in an instant if he felt he needed to. Ayre is the only one who genuinely cares for 621 as more than a tool. Consider that when you betray any of the rest of the characters, they're more frustrated that their plans are being disrupted than they are angry at losing a friend. It's all very business transaction-like. Ayre is different though - she's emotionally devastated if you betray her.
Ayre feeds you nothing, but RLF missions the first and second playthrough and gets cozy with the ALLMIND when she realizes what is happening. Clearly showing a preference in the outcome of the story. Furthermore, she drops you the moment you don't make the "right choice" and side to keep Carla alive. She is a self-interested mind parasite who lives off the host. Walter in a sense has already written off his life for his mission in Overseer and that's why he is more brazen with his mercs. Unlike Ayre who protects her life (coral) at all costs going as far to turn on her host in a moment's notice without the need for any kind of "reprogramming".
I don’t agree with his actions but it makes sense. He probably refers his mercs as hounds to try not to care about them especially when Sulla (all mind as well I believe) keep killing them. He’s only going the merc route the same was rusty was going the corps route. Walter of all people would’ve benefited the most making contact with Arye.
I hope we get a prequel to AC6 showing the story before the events of the game but after the Fires of Ibis. Knowing the franchise, FS will most likely release a game as an expansion!
They always come in 2's in armored core...at least the more recent titles, such as 3, 4 and 5. Considering also that the AC 6's success exceeded their expectations, chances are they might already be preparing the sequel that adds a ton more weapons and parts on top of what we already have and a new story or continuation. At least I hope so.
I know this is pretty late but I wanted to leave this comment anyway to share some thoughts about the idea voices in the coral having previously been humans. I personally doubt that they are meant to have been humans at one point in the past as if this was the case I feel it would undermine some of AC6’s thematic messaging on the nature of existence and the value of life. If the only reason Coral can have any consciousness is because it came from somewhere else then, in my opinion, it’s no longer a question of “Should we respect this species right to existence even though they are entirely different than us and could be dangerous?” It instead becomes a question of “Is human life more valuable than profit and more precious than it is dangerous?” Personally, I find the second question much less interesting than the first and I feel that it’s already addressed by the storyline of the RLF. The second question is much more interesting and I believe it touches more deeply on AC6’s themes of existentialism and the nature of existence in a way that it doesn’t if coral consciousness used to be human. I also believe it makes more sense if coral didn’t used to be human in regards to the probably alchemical inspirations of AC6 that you spoke about in another video (which was very well done and I absolutely loved). If coral consciousness used to be people then then a being like Ayre would be the salt and the coral without consciousness would be the sulphur and the human consciousness would be the mercury. This would imply that beings like Ayre already are a symbiosis of humanity and coral rather than what we see in Alea Iacta Est being the true symbiosis. I hope this makes sense to anyone reading this and I hope this doesn’t come across negatively because I really love your AC6 lore videos I just wanted to share my thoughts on a common theory that I personally believe is misguided from a thematic perspective.
Nah, he really cared for 621. All the dehumanization and distancing and masking and he still ends up taking pride in 621's capabilities, concerned for 621's general well-being, and urging 621 to find their own freedom.
Ok so, Carla might not be assistant 2 because during one of the RAD missions (I think its the brute assasination), here's a log where 2 dosers talk. They're talking about how they moved from working for carla to working for honest brute. And one of them says something like "she calls herself a cinder? Shes way too young for that title" The fires took place at least 50 years before the story, so carla would have to be very old (like over 70) in order for her to have survided AND been the lab assistant.
There's a theory that Carla being young is a result of being subject to augmentation or extensive coral exposure since Sulla should be pretty old at the point we encounter him but still sounds quite young. Human+ pilots in previous AC games also aged very slowly. One pilot in the manga even looked like a preteen despite being a bona fide adult and showed next to no emotional responses.
I hope that FS adds a pacifist set of weapons or maybe build focused on electronic warfare so we don't have to blow any of these friends we meet just disable their mechs or we go Kira Yamato and damage enemies non lethally though I always call BS on that hahahaha.
Yeah for me killing red gun six was too cruel when literally everyone else he knows is dead by our hand and his final lines of dialogue really makes you feel like a piece of shit 😢
tldr handler walter is what you would call a homie, a real g if you will, a true bro even and id burn entire galaxies for him its not like his motives for burning coral are unfounded either especially after coral release, i completed the game a 4th time just so i could burn rubicon again also he is alive if you burn rubicon so its a win win
I think walter and carla were around at the time, and their augmentations just gives them longer lifespands. Walter also describes the victims of the fire of ibis as his friends, not as a relationship between kid and adult but as equals, like a man who lost a friend in the war. Not only that but carla speaks of them in the same manner and carla seems to care in a romantic way for walter. While maybe the re-education or he willing procedure gave him the ability to see the voices, he was still an augmented pilot, as in the secret ending he still pilots his ac and is very lucid while talking to carla. I think carla always knew walter was alive and he needed you and everyone to think he was dead for some reason, he only appears once theres no one else who cans top you, or if you seemingly die and he expects your return. So walter seeing the voices could be a procidure he took just to be able to face you on equal footing. Walter also talks about a scientist and his friend, as if he is the friend who tried to kill the coral, plus he has the line "once something is alive, it doesnt die easy" as if he was the one to set the fires of ibis, and failed to kill the coral. So I dont think he was the boy in the picture
I also think that Walter and Clara lives longer Before the mission "Reach the Coral Convergence" Walter tells a story about two scientists. It feels like a very personal story. In the same mission, after this story, we can find prof. Nagai's AC. I think that prof. Nagai is the scientist who init fires of IBIS, who "set all ablaze" as Walter say. The second scientist, who delve into coral secrets, is Walter. So he feels guilty for the disaster and the deaths of friends and wants burn coral to the end. Walter called institute city as mausoleum of the sinners. Also he knows too much about RRI, coral, c-weapons and etc. It seems that more than anyone else. He instantly identifies cel-240 as a IBIS series and explains that it special for prevent coral disasters. I think that it too much for child from sketch. Also in 2 endings he pilot of IBIS series AC, If in the ending with the arquebus it can be assumed that they gave him this AC, then in the ending with ALLMIND it seems that it is his AC. I don't know, but it looks like Walter took this AC with him before the fires of IBIS. Ok, but who is the boy from sketch? We know only two character that connected with Jupiter - G1 Michigan and boy. Мaybe it's the same person. Walter knows G1 well and gets upset when Raven kill him. It is quite possible that Walter considers this a necessary sacrifice, but is still upset. When we start this mission after brief Walter say "just get it done. There's nothing more for me to say" Another interesting point before we choosing a beat red guns or vespes Walter talk with Clara and says "i think 621 got friends to worry about too". In fires of Raven he say something very similar "you found a friend". He probably has a friend like Ayre, and requests from a friend are not a cover. Before mission depth-3 Walter say that coral wait us deeper. Ayre say that it's like Walter know where coral and can't understand why he so confident in this. Probably he also can see the coral and coral voices like Raven. But he can to convince his friend that coral should be burn.
I just hope we get DLC or a spin-off of this game because I wanna know more about Walter. *Spoilers* Also I'm not a big fan of the "good" and "true" ending for that matter. I liked the "bad ending" the most because his fate is left ambiguous and I interpreted it as he lived (because I can't mentally endure having Walter killed in every ending) - he seemed like he only used us in the beginning which - fair point - don't forget we are a mercenary after all. We dunno why. But we know that we are, so Walter isn't even technically doing anything wrong if we're being honest. And him not being nice in the beginning also makes sense. In this environment (military-esque) you aren't easily mentally attached to anyone. In the end, they could die the next day and you'd still have to keep moving on. And this even happened to Walter just prior to us coming around. It's fair for the guy to be cold and reclusive in the beginning, we could just be another 617 in the end. But then he warms up to you, demands respect for you from even goddamn V.II Snail and plays downright with open cards towards the end. My personal canon ending has to be the bad ending again...damn FromSoft, you really don't like making fulfilling true endings, do you? 😔
I think he's dead in the Fires of Raven ending too. He still ends up captured by Arquebus and re-educated, and it's likely that he was on Rubicon when the Xylem crashed into the Coral storage and died in the fire. Might have even sortied in the Hal AC but never got deployed or did but couldn't reach the Xylem before everything blew up.
Quick question: Where did you get the "fire of ibis" data logs ? You seem like the only person who has it (compared to the people who do the data logs locations)
You can find the video record for the Fires of Ibis at the very beginning of the Coral Convergence mission: Go left from where you spawn in and it's on top of one of the tallest ruined buildings-hope that helps!
@@garrulousgoldmask 1. Nightfall's ac is similar to Walter's Hounds' in the trailer 2. 617 didn't excatly died like other hounds. His ac broke down like Rusty after using pulse armor so he could be alive? 3. Fought with the Caterphract 4. The place of the tutoital mission asks us to retrieve mercenary license is similar to where the trailer is.
The chad ending to be honest, felt dirty doing the other endings, while i do get rusty and ayre is a great character and companion i just dont think killing carla (the person whos helped us the most in the playthrough) was the right thing to do
Hey, technical question: why are you interlacing your footage? this is only used for old CRT monitors and looks shit on anything other than those. look up your recording/editing settings, you probably selected the wrong setting
I like Walter, he told everyone to show some respect toward 621 and 621 went to murked everything even the original owner of Raven callsign
Walter is definitely packing some BDE (big dad energy). Especially that one call when he says one of the companies doesn't value 621 but is going to talk with them.
@@garrulousgoldmaskalso that one scene where he tells him to “get some rest 621, and that’s an order”
@@garrulousgoldmask Yeah, and he even told Snail to check his attitude and "show 621 some respect"
@@jokerledger5400Snail needed to be put in his place, ie. 6ft under
I prefer IV
*_"Walter, put your augmentations away Walter. I'm not burning the Rubicon with you right now Walter."_*
Man, i used to disliked walter when i found out he used Raven for his personal vendetta, but after a while, when he changed his tone towards you, as if he is talking to a friend than a hound to be left dead, i began to sympathize with him, and chose to finish his mission first. And up till the end, walter truly became our friend, and im sad on how he was treated when he became an "re-educated" puppet for the arquebes, it made me hate v.ii snail more at Ng+.
Snail is a douche bag pos
Wait till you get to new game++.
@@gaunterodimm5974 Yeah, i know, im in the middle of NG++ atm, but i already saw the spoilers, it saddens me more. D:
How did Walter get caught?? Is he in Rubicon?
@@poweredbythemakyostar8896 Yeah, he was probably somewhere nearby, maybe in a orbital satellite. Snail implied they already know where he is when he incapacitated us. Aquerbus is pretty much the top dog at that point and even taken control of the PCA security system, it not hard for them to find out his location.
poor walter
before the game came out i expected to be sime kind of gideon ofnir
and result is more like gherman
Between the comments that Sulla makes, and how Michigan talks to Walter in the first audio call they make to each other, as well as other NPC's responses (like Carla asking about the other augmented that were previously under his command) is that this isnt Walter's first time trying to kill the coral. Sulla has apparently killed a number of his "hounds" trying to attack the facility he is guarding. With C4-621 being the first AC pilot to actually succeed. And one could infer that Michigan has sent mercs to work for Walter considering how they talk business and how readily and easily Walter gets jobs with Balem/Redguns in missions compared to the outright hostility of Arquebus when it comes to mercenaries. Arquebus outright tells Walter that his "muts" are unwanted (probably some bad previous history) and its only after 621 pulls off some crazy shit (like Wallclimber and Ice Worm) that they finally recognize that Walter finally has a good pilot.
There is definitely a long history and previous incursions between Walter, Michigan and Carla. Considering C4-621 can actually beat top tier mercs like the current holder of the title "Raven" and survive against multiple C-Weapons when most AC pilots are overwhelmed generally by them (Like in the instance of Ice Worm, 4 AC pilots go up against it, all but 1 mech is wrecked), there is legitimately something special about 621. And while Walter originally talks about how all of this is a job and dont get involved, Walter quickly changes as he gets defensive and protective of 621. Where you get less busywork missions and more important missions as well as figuring out that the voices in 621's head are either a Coral thats attached to him or a figment of his degrading body and wants 621 to get the augmentation issues fixed so he can live a good life.
I can see Michigan and Walter being old friends/colleagues especially how Michigan just forgives Walter and 621s betrayal, Walter even paying for Iguazu and the other guy's repair cost.
funny how out of everyone in Arquebus mostly look down on Walter and 621, only Rusty consider 621 as a friend and an equal fighter
Great write-up! I'll also add that Sulla has been working for ALLMIND, while the Arena bio for Waltuh says "that man has greatly delayed our efforts." So he's definitely been going at it for a while and could have been the biggest obstacle to ALLMIND. Though exactly how long (and how he has the resources to fund a private war) are unclear, but could make for some awesome DLC/spinoff title.
@@garrulousgoldmask Ohh! So that is why there is static or glitches during Sulla's arena introduction.
The interesting thing about 621 Raven is that he's a Gen 4 augmented which is considered the most outdated model of AC augmentation and many people write off 621 as just being lucky or having half decent skills until they actually fought him and discover 621s an incredible pilot with a big example being Brass Ox who is legitimately stunned that 621 was able to fight 3 veteran Nest Mercs at the same time on even ground and responding in disbelief. Really goes to show that 621 is a legitimately powerful AC pilot relying more on skill than on their augmentations and winning despite the odds being stacked against them.
If Michigan really looked after Walter all those years ago then that does explain how pained Walter sounds when you accept the job to kill Michigan and the rest of Balam's forces, yet he doesn't stop you 😢
Michigan felt like a commander I would fight to hell and back for😢
SPOILERS:
I have this theory about the thrid ending.
The main plot revolves around coral being too dangerous because it is flamable to the point of burning stars, and it can propagate, companies exploting it for profit and coral actually being sentient beings.
We know that the mutation or strange behavior that the scientists notice is the coming coral release where high density of coral tends to make the coral release( this of course was stopped by the fires of ibis)
So the third ending is to be different from the other two where the coral release pairs the coral to every human just like ayre and 621 are.
In the game ayre is described as a wave mutation or c wave, and ayre says she is synching to our brain waves to help.
Funny thing about waves is that two same waves amplify each other, so ayre is literally one with us. This explains why we are amplified and we can see the voices. We also see that raven exibits no signs of being more flamable as a result of having ayre(coral), and raven does go thru molten metal, fire, heat, even when your mech explodes it doesnt do so any differently. This implies that the pairing or (contact) with ayre does nullify the flamable properties coral has. We can see this as when we fight ayre she does blow up differently when shes by herself.
So coral being paired with everyone would remove the risk of it propagating even further and being flamable. It would also make it significantly less rare and valuable of a resource solving all the problems the main plot has with coral.
Thats at least my take on it
Ngl cool theory that in the end, the Allmind Ending being almost all the best outcomes of both previous endings being combined (The threat Coral poses being eliminated - Walters' Wish - and Coral being able to "live" and not be used as a mere tool - Ayres' Wish)
Tho I wouldn't say that it would resolve ALL problems with Coral and in fact may even create new ones all together
Sure, no more self propogating world endingly explosive particles that could expand across the universe, external problem solved, but now you have the internal problem of the people who have been "touched" by the Coral and have a synched C-Wave response. Since we know that the "voice of Coral" is not unique to 621 as seen in the Liberator ending with Walter hearing one himself and seeing Ayre somehow, and in the Allmind ending we still hear Ayre talking despite being "one" with her now, it would probably be reasonable to assume that everyone can hear their own "Coral Person" now. And since there seems to be an implication that Coral also houses replica personalities of the people that were touched by it, it seems that depending on whose C-Wave is bonded to could lead to some rather unfavorable outcomes. Maybe clashing personalities since C-Waves like Ayre have the capability to actually affect the outside world. Probably a theme for the next AC Chapter.
All in all, the Allmind ending does solve alot and is seemingly the best "at present ending"... but it feels like it is also a setup for an Expansion for AC6 (Maybe DLC or a 4 Answer type deal) and I cant honestly wait to see where this is going!
So now everyone has their own imaginary girlfriend
It's truly is the best ending
621, we gotta cook 621, where is the coral SIX TWO ONE
Waltuh even built Jesse a robot so Breaking Bad is now an Armored Core-like. Bravo, Vince!
The fight with Walter on board the Xylem falling into Rubicons orbit is one of the most incredible atmospheres (no pun intended) of any boss fight from any game ever. Easily the best of the three ending fights in terms of theme. Mechanically I think the main ending boss is the best. The true ending boss is sick but phase one of the fight is pretty trash and uninspired.
I believe that last bit where Walter is charging his gun, but then decides not to shoot, was him fighting back against the coral reprogramming that was forcing him to do what Arqubus wanted. His final words "You found.... A friend." He's been in your corner most of the game, even at points telling V.II Snail to put some respect on your name. I believe he became somewhat of a father figure, and he possibly would have seen what you and Ayre believed in had he not been captured around the same time you were.
It's interesting your thoughts on how Walters mom likely became a part of the coral, because throughout the game he's always going on about info and requests he's getting from his 'friend', a nameless character that seems to be communicating with him. Then at the end he tells 621 "you found a 'friend'". In my opinion, Walter is referring to Ayre being 621's friend and that throughout the game Walter himself was also in contact with a voice from the coral, possibly his mom? or maybe even professor Nagai.
Who is Walter's friend is definitely a great question though it would make a lot of sense if it's also a voice from the Coral.
I also think it's quite possible that Ayre's voice could have been the voice of Walter's mom. From what Iguazu tells us, the Coral seems to only have that one voice even if it goes by different names.
@@garrulousgoldmaskWhen you get sniped by Snail and receive Walter's message after waking up he says something on the line of "621, a friend of mine's sent a request...... No, this one comes from me". That made me think that every time Walter said that he was hiding the fact that this was a personal misssion he was giving to 621, to keep things more professional since he is supposed to be a merc handler, not a mission giver.
@@YewBadgerGood point!
@@YewBadger Yeah, Ayre also points out after one of his "I got this from a friend" requests that she'd tracked his communications and he'd not talked to anybody else. Although there's always the possibility that his "friend" is the dead scientist who'd left him the legacy of keeping the Coral contained. Not that he's in communication with the dead, but that he views all the missions in furtherance of that goal as being part of that friend's last request.
Just like after you both are captured and he's presumed dead he leaves you that recording requesting you finish what he'd started.
Or Walter never had a “friend” in the first place. It could just be a silly excuse to make things sound less personal. It’s like asking for “research purposes”, or for “a friend” because it’s embarrassing otherwise.
"Waltuh. Put your AC away, Waltuh. We're not gonna re-enact the Fires of Ibis with you right now."
1:45 glad you said second best waifu, because we all know Rusty is the best one.
@@vicarsita5510 yes
Who’s Walter?
At first a cold heated man
In the end a true friend that was proud of you of finding a friend :(
Walter is best dad, Michigan is best uncle, Rusty is best bro, Ayre is best brain-wife.
In one of Professor Naggis logs he says that there is a coral wave mutation so the ibis protocol must be used. In the all mind ending, Ayer is called a coral wave mutation. It is not a hard jump to make that coral develops individual minds when a population gets dense and that these minds may stimulate further rabid growth. Basically coral got a voice it’s self and then they burned it when it understood pain.
Coral is Stem-cells meet Oil
And there's also the data log you get in the Alt Attack the Watchpoint mission which says ALLMIND detected a Wave Mutation, right before you meet Ayre.
Plus lsd!
@@garrulousgoldmask Ok but my brain-wife calls me Studmuffin tho so checkmate.
Ok, but after she learns that she can actually pilot coral based AC's, such as the Ephemera model, then she might be able to inhabit a synthetic, cyberpunk type of body and transcend this way the "brain wife" status and become a "real wife" . A real, custom made synthetic/android body to suit all tastes 😏. So there's still hope for us.😉
Prof. Nagai's AC is at the Reach the Coral Convergence mission.
Literally at the start, on top of the slim tallest building you see on your left.
How do I know? That's where you can get the Data Log of his last words.
"Take that with a pinch of salt, which you can get from the Steam page".
Subscribed.
That last log made me cry. That line made sure to me that Walther is dead.
But I geuss in Fires of Raven ending, even if 621 survived. What else he could live for? Everyone he knows is dead and the corporation withdraw from Rubicon as it is now a dead planet.
621 may not even survived the fire anyway. I feel sad and pain when I got that ending.
Now I'm on NG+ and will see the other ending.
The Fires of Raven ending is such a Bad End. You betray and murder your only actual friend, and destroy untold lives, and for what purpose? The idea you might be saving a crappy humanity that's pretty much on course to destroy itself anyways without any external help? You're kicking the can down the road and leaving yourself either dead or so isolated and alone that you might as well be.
For all that it's stupid for Allmind to betray you in the end, I think she was right that connecting humanity and the Coral was probably the only way to save humanity in the long-run.
@@Reldanliked the ending because you were avoiding galactic infection or at least infection on massive scales. In 4he new frontier, there will be new lives. New beginnings. And we shallnt exacerbate the sullied chances of mankind just to aid a newly found friend.
The corporation's withdrawal means siphoning another population for resources, yes, but to aid the cause of universal survival, despite the selfishness of a many, Is a heroic act undeserved, but needed.
It's a bad end. But not *The* bad end.
Connecting the coral and the humans would be sufficient to aid humanity but at the cost of infecting everything else? Not necessarily.
Now what I said would be righteous if it weren't for one or the endings allegedly corroborating the truth that coral would be more helpful than harmful, but in 621's mind , that most likely was the only viable option.
Though yeah blowing up it again is kind of a dickish move, justificatifion aside.
in my head, in the fires of raven ending, raven gets the ending he went to rubicon to find. finish the job, undo the surgery, become normal again. and since being normal means he's no longer raven the undefeated AC mercenary pilot, he lives on in relative insignificance, somewhere in the galaxy.
Someone said it best, the first ending is about Legacy, righting the wrong of the past, and put a definitive end to the Coral war. We burn a system to do it, but it could be worse if Coral spread beyond the Rubicon system. The war for Coral would be a galaxy wide war, and if someone accidently ignite it, it could potentially burn the entire galaxy. We dont even know if humanity is that much at risk of extinction, so far it just 2 corps dicking each other and the PCA trying to tell everyone to behave with RLF fighting against their "oppressors"
There is no good, bad, or true ending, it just how we feel about each. I like Walter, Carla and even Chatty, and they have sacrifice much to get here. Honoring their wish is the least I could do. For me this is the best ending, but the Liberator have more "Fuck Yeah" moments.
@@ReldanYou killed a planet to save a galaxy from getting super space nuke oil all over the place and potentially blowing the fuck up and killing everyone and everything in the future. Seems pretty reasonable. Sure you committed genocide, and everyone you'd known died along the way, but it's simply the nature of your job and they all knew what's at stake, and more importantly, you're not risking turning the whole galaxy into a powder keg.
Walter early game: 621 get off your ass and make us some money. We need to get to coral and get paid.
Walter late game: Kill God and blow up this massive machine that's preventing various disasters
621: ayo what happened to MONEY
He had already had it covered: making sure 621 earned all the credits.
Waltuh... put your hound away waltuh... I'm not giving you a contract right now.
One of my fav little bits about Walter is during the swinburn quest if you agree to spare him then shoot him in the back as he Flys away the lady ask if you "learned that from Walter "
i just found out you can kill swinburne anyway after accepting his request, fucking hilarious
Because of what you said regarding Walter's mom "diving" to the Coral, I had a unwarranted theory that Ayre might be Walter's mother.
1 MILF waifu please 😎
@raynalldoprime I think so too, they’re just consumed by the fire of Ibis (so no seggs though)
I love it when a Mecha series include the sci fi thingy to the story other than the mech stuff
At first I was thinking that something's off about Walter, like I can't trust him, but the more I played the game the more he grew on me. //SPOILERS AHEAD// During my first and blind playthrough after hearing about Walter's legacy and final wish I just couldn't betray Carla. The ending is considered 'bad', but imo its the best one. Coral is no more and the endless cycle of Corpos' wars on Rubicon is over. It was very sad to betray Ayre like that and her bossfight dialogue was completely heartbreaking but AC6 just doesnt let you not betray any of your friends unfortunately. I like this about AC's story, very typical From Soft endings.
It's a good thing Ayre is easy to S rank (I took my sweet time and a lot of damage), I will never replay that stage again
bro when walter said "you..... found a friend." THAT SHIT MADE ME CRYYYYYY That hit me so hard in the feels. i do be missin papa walter fr fr
It's always nice to see those videos because, at least for me, the majority of AC6 is clicking the "=" button two times when a dialogue appears.
Handler Walter "Heisenberg": "Say my name."
Great video! Can’t wait for more AC6 lore videos, story was super interesting!
Thank you! And I'm definitely planning more!
Fantastic overview of the lore behind Walter. Looking forward to more deep dives on the characters and elements that make up the world of AC6.
Thank you so much!
This Coral remind me a lot of the Philosopher stone in Full Metal Alchemist, it a very powerful energy source, but it is comprised of human souls, so the energy itself is sentient and if one soul is touched by the energy, they can hear the souls's voices.
I would commit the most heinous warcrimes just for this man
Walter's my boy,he helped me become who I was and I helped him fulfill his secret plan to blow up the solar system,it's symbiotic
And so the first of many ac6 lore videos begins
Really well done
Thank you!
I’ve been waiting so long for lore videos!
W... Waltuh...
Ty for subtitles :)
I want to know why the original raven and branch did to anger and lead the pca to invade Rubicon remember they planned the invasion before the end of chapter one almost like the pca knew how dangerous the coreal was and tried to keep it hidden so walter makes the situation worse the pca could of been great allies
Also, swarm intelligence is the exibition of intelligent behavior by a collective, the collective is still made out of individuals.
Seria and Ayre could just be individuals.
I also used to thinkt that the coral was the spirit of the rubiconians when they die. As Ayre describes herself as a Rubiconian without a body, why should she have the concept of a body
3:59 Don't think I don't hear Malenia's theme in the background. Istg, I picked up the sound and it instantly triggered my PTSD.
I think raven leaking info about coral being on rubicon was because their crew may have been working with Walter
Stk/stv’s sketches reveal them hanging around with “four mercenaries” who are mentioned a few times
I'm thinking that too! And I think Carla was also involved with Walter and those independent mercs since Nightfall Raven and Chartreuse also use parts made by RaD, who also made the AC you start the game in.
Handler Walter aka Handler Heisenberg.
You're goddamn right.
I love that he showed Rusty’s cutscene when he said “The second best waifu in the game” friggin Rusty Gang bro let’s go
Waltuh
What lead you to believe Michigan is the Hero of Jupiter? Were it the two archives about Michigan beating up Iguazu and Volta real hard, and the arena entry for Iguazu that he picked a fight with the Hero of Jupiter?
Yep! There's also the arena entry for G6 who says he was inspired by Michigan's victories in Jupiter.
@@garrulousgoldmask oh, I missed that one. Thanks!
I very much believe Walters technically alive in the new game++, since he was augmented so there’s a high chance he likely has new AC body somewhere on rubicon.🤔🐱
I don’t think augmentation works like that. All cases of pilots coming back after defeat are implied to be because they physically ejecting from their AC in time rather than any kind of brain downloading. G4 Volta stays dead after the failed attempt at climbing the Wall after all. So unless Walter got downloaded into ALLMIND I highly doubt he stands to make a comeback.
This could be true since the ibis weapons are autonomous except walters AC but it could be a misunderstanding in translation and only his mind is connected. Walter never appears to be near 621 on any missions so I doubt hes actually on rubicon or anywhere close
most new gens can remotely control their ac
@awhellnah__ that’s specifically related to ALLMIND, I don’t know the precise details but it can seemingly absorb minds into itself or something like that.
walter is shinji confirmed
Any person with the name Walter have to watch out these days 😂
I like the parts he made. I use a lot of them a lot of the time.
Waltuh let's cook coral dust instead waltuh
Lol
Also, Waltuh: "Say my name."
7:38 Wat true potential Walther, my potential kinda sealed with 2 Zimm, 2 needle, and a pile
Despite 621 being mute, it becomes clear (especially in one ending) that Walter does care for 621. I thought in calls he was just putting on a show for 621 and manipulating 621 when he defends them, but it is clearly not the case. There are no heroes and villains in this game, and I can genuinelt understand motivations. To me it makes the story and lore much more interesting to me than certain aspects of Elden Ring.
Except Snail, fuck Snail
There ARE heroes and villains, they're just all stained in blood. Rusty is a hero, and Snail is massive villain.
Walter cares for 621 the same way a dog-lover cares for their favorite pet. He's fond of you. He respects your skills. But ultimately you're still a number to him, and it's only through your usefulness at forwarding his plans that he even goes that far. There are multiple C4-6XX's who he's gotten killed doing his dirty work before you came along. The only major difference is that you're extremely competent.
Rusty and Carla are fond of you as well, but they're not your friend or buddy. You have their respect, but they'd stab you in the back in an instant if he felt he needed to.
Ayre is the only one who genuinely cares for 621 as more than a tool. Consider that when you betray any of the rest of the characters, they're more frustrated that their plans are being disrupted than they are angry at losing a friend. It's all very business transaction-like. Ayre is different though - she's emotionally devastated if you betray her.
Ayre feeds you nothing, but RLF missions the first and second playthrough and gets cozy with the ALLMIND when she realizes what is happening. Clearly showing a preference in the outcome of the story. Furthermore, she drops you the moment you don't make the "right choice" and side to keep Carla alive. She is a self-interested mind parasite who lives off the host. Walter in a sense has already written off his life for his mission in Overseer and that's why he is more brazen with his mercs. Unlike Ayre who protects her life (coral) at all costs going as far to turn on her host in a moment's notice without the need for any kind of "reprogramming".
I killed Walter in 10 seconds. This dialogue is app new to me
Any one notice a few similarities between Armored Core 6 Coral and the sea from the book Solaris by Stanislaw Lem
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that!
@@garrulousgoldmask if they really took inspiration from Solaris then coral might be the most dangerous thing known to man.
@@Cold_Zero_The_Wise Then the Fires of Raven ending doesn't seem like a bad ending now
@@CharlieFillmore was thinking the same thing
@@Cold_Zero_The_Wise I haven't read the book so can u give a summary of how dangerous it could be?
I don’t agree with his actions but it makes sense. He probably refers his mercs as hounds to try not to care about them especially when Sulla (all mind as well I believe) keep killing them. He’s only going the merc route the same was rusty was going the corps route. Walter of all people would’ve benefited the most making contact with Arye.
Yea if he made contact with coral and lived he may have had a new point of veiw😢
I hope we get a prequel to AC6 showing the story before the events of the game but after the Fires of Ibis. Knowing the franchise, FS will most likely release a game as an expansion!
Absolutely-there are so many great stories AC 6 sets up!
They always come in 2's in armored core...at least the more recent titles, such as 3, 4 and 5. Considering also that the AC 6's success exceeded their expectations, chances are they might already be preparing the sequel that adds a ton more weapons and parts on top of what we already have and a new story or continuation. At least I hope so.
Imagine if Ayre is Walter's Mom and we literally just rizzed her up.
I know this is pretty late but I wanted to leave this comment anyway to share some thoughts about the idea voices in the coral having previously been humans. I personally doubt that they are meant to have been humans at one point in the past as if this was the case I feel it would undermine some of AC6’s thematic messaging on the nature of existence and the value of life. If the only reason Coral can have any consciousness is because it came from somewhere else then, in my opinion, it’s no longer a question of “Should we respect this species right to existence even though they are entirely different than us and could be dangerous?” It instead becomes a question of “Is human life more valuable than profit and more precious than it is dangerous?”
Personally, I find the second question much less interesting than the first and I feel that it’s already addressed by the storyline of the RLF. The second question is much more interesting and I believe it touches more deeply on AC6’s themes of existentialism and the nature of existence in a way that it doesn’t if coral consciousness used to be human. I also believe it makes more sense if coral didn’t used to be human in regards to the probably alchemical inspirations of AC6 that you spoke about in another video (which was very well done and I absolutely loved). If coral consciousness used to be people then then a being like Ayre would be the salt and the coral without consciousness would be the sulphur and the human consciousness would be the mercury. This would imply that beings like Ayre already are a symbiosis of humanity and coral rather than what we see in Alea Iacta Est being the true symbiosis.
I hope this makes sense to anyone reading this and I hope this doesn’t come across negatively because I really love your AC6 lore videos I just wanted to share my thoughts on a common theory that I personally believe is misguided from a thematic perspective.
more pls
I'm planning on it!
Just like Returnal I’m addicted to this game, I’m on NG++ for a 3rd ending now
Walter was manipulative. I guess it comes with being an observer. He only cared for 621 as a pawn until Xylem's ascent.
Nah, he really cared for 621. All the dehumanization and distancing and masking and he still ends up taking pride in 621's capabilities, concerned for 621's general well-being, and urging 621 to find their own freedom.
WAKE THE DAWG UP!!
Ok so, Carla might not be assistant 2 because during one of the RAD missions (I think its the brute assasination), here's a log where 2 dosers talk. They're talking about how they moved from working for carla to working for honest brute. And one of them says something like "she calls herself a cinder? Shes way too young for that title"
The fires took place at least 50 years before the story, so carla would have to be very old (like over 70) in order for her to have survided AND been the lab assistant.
There's a theory that Carla being young is a result of being subject to augmentation or extensive coral exposure since Sulla should be pretty old at the point we encounter him but still sounds quite young. Human+ pilots in previous AC games also aged very slowly. One pilot in the manga even looked like a preteen despite being a bona fide adult and showed next to no emotional responses.
I hope that FS adds a pacifist set of weapons or maybe build focused on electronic warfare so we don't have to blow any of these friends we meet just disable their mechs or we go Kira Yamato and damage enemies non lethally though I always call BS on that hahahaha.
Ahh
The "permanent malfunctioning" approach
Yeah for me killing red gun six was too cruel when literally everyone else he knows is dead by our hand and his final lines of dialogue really makes you feel like a piece of shit 😢
tldr handler walter is what you would call a homie, a real g if you will, a true bro even and id burn entire galaxies for him its not like his motives for burning coral are unfounded either especially after coral release, i completed the game a 4th time just so i could burn rubicon again
also he is alive if you burn rubicon so its a win win
What happens when u finish NG++? Does the campaign reset?
Waltar
I think walter and carla were around at the time, and their augmentations just gives them longer lifespands.
Walter also describes the victims of the fire of ibis as his friends, not as a relationship between kid and adult but as equals, like a man who lost a friend in the war. Not only that but carla speaks of them in the same manner and carla seems to care in a romantic way for walter.
While maybe the re-education or he willing procedure gave him the ability to see the voices, he was still an augmented pilot, as in the secret ending he still pilots his ac and is very lucid while talking to carla.
I think carla always knew walter was alive and he needed you and everyone to think he was dead for some reason, he only appears once theres no one else who cans top you, or if you seemingly die and he expects your return.
So walter seeing the voices could be a procidure he took just to be able to face you on equal footing.
Walter also talks about a scientist and his friend, as if he is the friend who tried to kill the coral, plus he has the line "once something is alive, it doesnt die easy" as if he was the one to set the fires of ibis, and failed to kill the coral.
So I dont think he was the boy in the picture
I also think that Walter and Clara lives longer
Before the mission "Reach the Coral Convergence" Walter tells a story about two scientists. It feels like a very personal story. In the same mission, after this story, we can find prof. Nagai's AC. I think that prof. Nagai is the scientist who init fires of IBIS, who "set all ablaze" as Walter say. The second scientist, who delve into coral secrets, is Walter. So he feels guilty for the disaster and the deaths of friends and wants burn coral to the end. Walter called institute city as mausoleum of the sinners. Also he knows too much about RRI, coral, c-weapons and etc. It seems that more than anyone else. He instantly identifies cel-240 as a IBIS series and explains that it special for prevent coral disasters. I think that it too much for child from sketch.
Also in 2 endings he pilot of IBIS series AC, If in the ending with the arquebus it can be assumed that they gave him this AC, then in the ending with ALLMIND it seems that it is his AC. I don't know, but it looks like Walter took this AC with him before the fires of IBIS.
Ok, but who is the boy from sketch? We know only two character that connected with Jupiter - G1 Michigan and boy. Мaybe it's the same person. Walter knows G1 well and gets upset when Raven kill him. It is quite possible that Walter considers this a necessary sacrifice, but is still upset. When we start this mission after brief Walter say "just get it done. There's nothing more for me to say"
Another interesting point before we choosing a beat red guns or vespes Walter talk with Clara and says "i think 621 got friends to worry about too". In fires of Raven he say something very similar "you found a friend". He probably has a friend like Ayre, and requests from a friend are not a cover. Before mission depth-3 Walter say that coral wait us deeper. Ayre say that it's like Walter know where coral and can't understand why he so confident in this. Probably he also can see the coral and coral voices like Raven. But he can to convince his friend that coral should be burn.
Quality video.
Thanks!
"Gendo grindset" lmao
I just hope we get DLC or a spin-off of this game because I wanna know more about Walter.
*Spoilers*
Also I'm not a big fan of the "good" and "true" ending for that matter.
I liked the "bad ending" the most because his fate is left ambiguous and I interpreted it as he lived (because I can't mentally endure having Walter killed in every ending) - he seemed like he only used us in the beginning which - fair point - don't forget we are a mercenary after all. We dunno why. But we know that we are, so Walter isn't even technically doing anything wrong if we're being honest. And him not being nice in the beginning also makes sense. In this environment (military-esque) you aren't easily mentally attached to anyone. In the end, they could die the next day and you'd still have to keep moving on. And this even happened to Walter just prior to us coming around. It's fair for the guy to be cold and reclusive in the beginning, we could just be another 617 in the end. But then he warms up to you, demands respect for you from even goddamn V.II Snail and plays downright with open cards towards the end. My personal canon ending has to be the bad ending again...damn FromSoft, you really don't like making fulfilling true endings, do you? 😔
I think he's dead in the Fires of Raven ending too. He still ends up captured by Arquebus and re-educated, and it's likely that he was on Rubicon when the Xylem crashed into the Coral storage and died in the fire. Might have even sortied in the Hal AC but never got deployed or did but couldn't reach the Xylem before everything blew up.
He still ended up being "re-educated" though. Even if he lived, his fate is still a terrible one.
It's like Fromsoft having some resentment at Walter and decided to kill him 3 TIMES just for good measure
Fulfilling endings? Ayre could inhabit Coral based AC's or a synthetic cybernetic body for that matter, thus achieving physical form...😉😏.
@@harkon6569watch their be a fan art where she has a plump hourglass figure and never loses it like every man's wet dream😂
So...id say the real good ending is burning it all down. Because the "True" ending is whack and existential asf
Subtitles saying "Waltuh"😂
Lol
And do more pf these pls
4:31 I thought gratuitous violence was against RUclips Guidelines
Quick question: Where did you get the "fire of ibis" data logs ? You seem like the only person who has it (compared to the people who do the data logs locations)
You can find the video record for the Fires of Ibis at the very beginning of the Coral Convergence mission: Go left from where you spawn in and it's on top of one of the tallest ruined buildings-hope that helps!
@@garrulousgoldmask thank you for the help, I didn’t realize I was missing that data log until I saw your video
Great video but couldn't help wanting to hear the 'r' in coral every time
Whoa slow down. Who are all these people? Please can you introduce the characters of AC6 in a video
I think 617 is Nightfall
Oh interesting idea-what makes you say that?
@@garrulousgoldmask 1. Nightfall's ac is similar to Walter's Hounds' in the trailer
2. 617 didn't excatly died like other hounds. His ac broke down like Rusty after using pulse armor so he could be alive?
3. Fought with the Caterphract
4. The place of the tutoital mission asks us to retrieve mercenary license is similar to where the trailer is.
What's your thoughts on this🧐
Rhe fires of obis nirned more than rubicon. It burned several star systems
What if Ayre is walters mom
If he actually met her earlier he might have changed his thoughts on Coral then but that is an interesting thought 🤔
"C O A A L"
Please dont take offense to it but your accent is adorable
Thanks! And none taken!
So he went from meth to robot nice!
He did make Jesse a robot so it wasn't too much of a leap!
srry walter... but rusty is still mah boi :c
Fires of Raven ending is the good ending.
The chad ending to be honest, felt dirty doing the other endings, while i do get rusty and ayre is a great character and companion i just dont think killing carla (the person whos helped us the most in the playthrough) was the right thing to do
Hey, technical question: why are you interlacing your footage? this is only used for old CRT monitors and looks shit on anything other than those.
look up your recording/editing settings, you probably selected the wrong setting
Damn
Wubicon 💀
C O R A L not col
can't get over this guys inability to pronounce the letter R
I'm more a fan of the theory that Walter is the second scientist, and the player is the first scientist's son
What is this accent
Your lisp is funny