I just wish they still produced cartridges. I guess it's probably possible to do that myself from the steam game (since that's just an emulator running the rom), but it's not quite the same. I also wish it was advertised a little bit more. I only learned of its existence because I follow RushJet1, who composed the music for the game and posted it on his RUclips channel.
Well, as I understand it they "cheat" a bit by adding powerful (compared to the 7800) hardware to the cartridge. But there were cartridge based games which basically did the same back in the day, extending the life of popular systems.
Just for the grafics on "Digiloi" : The very early games "Forbidden Forest" Part I and II also used this kind of grafics, but the programmer used alternated character sets. Part one of Forbidden Forst was also the first game to inroduce paralax scroling on the C64. Cause the whole background gfx was done by characters, the programmer used three sprites to setup the paralax scroling elements.
Why do I love this channel so much? I'm a late millenial born in a lower middle-class Brazilian household so the first computer I had was a Windows 95 back in like 2001. I didn't have any contact with any of the computers this guy shows yet I love this channel so much. Perhaps it's because he's actually the kind of geek who was bullied in school for being so smart and not these trendy RUclipsrs who label themsevels geek because they watched the latest Marvel superhero movie.
Not all cubes in Portal are Companion Cubes. The Companion Cube was _a specific cube_ designated as such as part of a particular experiment to test the subject's vulnerability to emotional suggestion.
@@mikosoft If you get pedantic, you invite more pedantry. ;) It's actually "weighted" instead of "weighed", presumably because it's been made extra heavy.
I saw that farming sim earlier, thought it was a joke, but they managed to get a lot of stuff into a limited platform. Very cool! Makes me wanna fire up Steam and my real Farming Simulator! And Portal2 of course! ;) And while I am at it, for those going to ask what song he’s playing in the background: ruclips.net/video/PgPQCYvReGg/видео.html 😉
FS64 originally WAS an April Fool's joke... but so many people got excited by the idea that Giants actually found a couple of their guys who knew Commodore 64 programming to write the game for real.
Rikki and Vikki is a fun little game. I have the Steam version and love it. Spoke with the creator and did a lengthy interview with him as well. Hope to have that up soon
I wonder if the Steam version is literally the same version inside an emulator wrapper. That's certainly one way to keep it faithful to the limitations of old systems!
Cool it was on Steam. I'm an Atari 2600 homebrewer myself (Princess Rescue and Zippy the Porcupine) and love seeing this kind of stuff for classic platforms.
@@stevethepocket Yes, it is. The creator made his own 7800 emulator from scratch specifically for the game's digital version. Details are here: tailchao.com/BupSystem/index.php
This channel is one of the most pure fun places on RUclips. David's enthusiasm and knowledge of all the retro hardware, with particularly awesome restorations; it's such a wholesome combo. Love ya 8-Bit Guy!
You didn't explain, that Farming Simulator is a very successful simulator series for PC and consoles, including dozens of real live farming equipment. The series has a huge fan base, a big modding scene - there is even a "Modding Farming Simulator for Dummies" issue - and it saw iterations over years now. One of the most successful games series of all time. It is produced by Swiss based Giants Software and they made this game as a retro/demake of the original series. Nice guys btw., been with them several times for lunch during GamesCom.
Also apparently they are getting their Farming Simulator eSport scene on. I was actually amazed to learn that exists. Also FS is huge thing in Germany. Not really my type of the game, but still, glad to see it makes some people happy.
I was born in '86 so I grew up in the age of MS-DOS games and beyond (I have very vague memories of using my dad's C64 before that though as a very small child). I do love that I got to grow up in the 90s and experience the birth of modern gaming first hand (especially internet gaming!) but I am sad that I missed out on a lot of awesome gaming tech before that though, like the Atari, Amiga, and C64 (being old enough to actually understand what I was playing, that is).
@CyDragonGM Not to the general public yet. I believe David is going to get all the Kickstarter backers their copies first and then it should be available on his website later. But it is a really fun game.
Rikki and Vikki is on steam. Thanks for reviewing it man, I'm pretty interested in it and I'm glad I don't have to have an atari 7800 to make that happen :)
Great haul of games. Rikki and Vikki looked fantastic during the unboxing and it certainly didn't disappoint here. That would've made the developers rich had it come out in the day as would any of these games really. Thanks for the excellent review.
I think the Farming Simulator is mostly cool in principle - I would definitely love if more companies advertised their major products by commissioning their demakes. Kinda like Halo 2600 or Dark Void Zero. And you know, I think people who actually do enjoy those 'zen games' like Farming Simulator or Euro Truck Simulator would probably get some enjoyment out of it.
Three years late, but have you found the real farming simulator game series? The C64 port is literally am April fools gag that they decided to make real later. So it's kind of not meant to be great for playing.
I know it's five years later, but as to your 7800 games new-in-box: Open them! Games were meant to be played! ;-) Besides, the 7800 is one of my favorite systems, and while the library is sadly smaller than it deserved, it has some real gems in it. Of course, you could just get a BackBit or other modern multi-cart and try everything out on your 7800 that way. 🙂 Ricky and Vicky looks great (too bad the cartridge version is no longer available), and that C64 Portal game is downright impressive for what it is! Thanks for showing all of them!
The thing that makes me a little sad when i see stuff like this or other games like Terraria (not saying the actual version we use would run on super old hardware) is that back in the day many things where not actual technical limitations but the games where just so much simpler (in a bad way, for a change). They could have done AMAZING games even with the old hardware. Sadly most old games, as much as my nostalgia prompts me to glorify them, where super simplistic and, to be frank, dumb, to the point where it is a complete mystery to me how i spend that much time with them back in the day. We could have had amazing space trade games, or adventure games, etc. Instead of all the super simplistic pew-pew shooters. Good game design isn't hardware dependent. (other than not having enough memory to run the code, ill give them that. But that wasn't a technical limitation, it was a marketing limitation) The Farming Simulator here is actually a good example how the game is much dumber than it needs to be. Sure you don't have amazing 3d graphics, but there is no reason to not add a ton of gameplay in there. Instead they make it as simple as they can get away with and ship it.
The Atari 7800 was my first console. I still have all my games. Never could I have imagined a new game coming out in 2019. I'm gonna do my darndest to get myself a copy.
Get the to the AtariAge dot com website. The 7800 has a very strong homebrew retro scene to it. Bob "Pac-Man Plus" DeCrescenzo has programmed almost as many homebrew titles as Atari Corp released for the console during its commercial shelf life. There's cartridges sold in AtariAge's own website store as well as by pro-homebrewers in the forums section. And if you have an Atari CX22 or CX80 Trak-Ball controller, get 7800 "Centipede-TB" from AtariAge. It has native Trak-Ball support built in so it plays so much better than the original commercial release did. There's also a 7800 Facebook group too with about 1,400 ish members currently...
Awesome! The 7800 was my first console as a kid. I'll never forget the first game I ever played. It was pole position 2, it came with the system. Then my dad bought centipede and Dr. J v.s. Larry Bird basketball!
Mister Badzilla Atari being cheap is a big part of it. This game was four years in development, six megabits in size and contains custom sound hardware and mappers. The Tramiels would never have paid for that back in the day
Well, the developers of Rikki & Vikki had the benefit of literally decades of documentation from people who learned to squeeze every last drop of performance out of a 33-year-old console. I'm sure that was a factor.
SpearM75503 possibly, though I’d argue that there weren’t a lot of developers back then who learned how to squeeze every ounce of juice out of the system. Devs just didn’t make seven generations of 7800 games
@Metagalactic Llama at least the portal game is playable. It has a beginning, middle and end. It took the independent designer a long time to make, and they aren't making any profit. The farm simulator for C64 is about as complex and interactive as a snow globe. It's more like a working model for fans to put on a shelf. And it's absolutely for profit. That's why they sent a copy to Dave.
I got farming sim for the 64. It looks great but there's just not much to it. Kinda dull. Portal is a genuinely good game. It's a shame it's so short. My nephew loved it so much he completed it. He doesn't care that hes playing it on a computer nearly 4 times older than him.
Farming Sims have never been my thing but it is really impressive how much complexity they managed to get into the port. There's a lot going on in that game even if the gameplay isn't all that.
I love the fact that it looks like we live in a time where "gardening" needs the qualifier "real life" to distinguish it from the most common form of gardening, which is virtual, apparently.
it IS a little like the N163 in that it's a wavetable, but it's much more capable. N163 is way more memory-limited and has the multiplexing issue that creates a 15khz buzz when using all 8 channels. Interestingly though, I used N163 in FamiTracker to make the music in Rikki & Vikki, then exported that to the actual format. It sometimes sounds quite similar, but other times N163 can't keep up.
The C64 version of Portal reminds me of a Flash version that's floating around the net. That version got pretty difficult in the later stages. Not in figuring out what to do, just getting the timing right. Also, I love the title screen to Farming Simulator. It's not that I have a thing for farms or anything, I just find the coloring on it to be quite nice.
Iirc, Giants Software announced c64 Farming Simulator as an April fools joke. Then they actually made it. So it's more of a gag product than a serious game
Jeeze, worste analogy ever. Even with cross stitch and puzzle making you get the "climax" of sewing the final stitch or placing the final piece. I stare at my wife's knitting patterns, tho, wondering when exactly she learned an extraterrestrial language. Wtf is a knit purl yarn over? "Its ok honey, go back to your tinkering."
I find the C64 edition of Farming simulator extremely amazing side project for game studio that works with modern computers. When it comes to Portal, it isn't box. It is cube. The PC game is as great as C64 rendition of it.
I think the secret is the large amount of RAM and storage: With the flash ROM and the CPLD as a bankswitch controller, the game can consist of considerably more data than in the golden days, and they can switch between banks within a few microseconds, there is no need to "load" any data, it is all available during gameplay. The 7800 has just 4KB of RAM internally: The on-cartridge RAM will be a huge help in being able to get a more complex game on the screen. The hardware is now cheap, but would have been very costly back in the day.
@@danielmantione there were several 7800 carts that had 16K RAM in them back in the day. The problem was there weren't a lot of high capacity ROM games back then for the 7800. There were a few 128K ROM games and one 256K ROM game.
So if there's a chip in the Ricki and Vicki cart that is more powerful than the 7800, is the system actually doing anything then? Seems like it'd be just a glorified video pass through. As for Farming Simulator, it looks very competently produced!
@@RushJet1 Do you know if it is emulating the Pokey chip like Ballblazer uses? Or is it more of a custom implementation? *Edit- It seems you had a hand in the development, and reading another one of your comments answered for me that it is not a re-implementation of the Pokey chip. Still interesting to be sure.
@@vgtheory the 7800 was designed to be able to use cart-based audio chips. The ARM chip is playing the music; it isn't emulating a POKEY. Nor is it running game code - the 7800's SALLY 6502C is doing all of that - or the graphics duties [the 7800's MARIA chip is doing that]. Even the 7800's TIA chip is handling the audio SFX. They went with the ARM because it's dirt-cheap whereas the much less powerful POKEY is getting sky-high in prices these days. The POKEY is in short NOS supplies because so many 7800 home brew games want to use it, 5200 and Atari 8-bit computer users want spares to replace old defective units or to do Stereo POKEY mods to their rigs, and plenty of Atari Coin-Op games used 1-4 POKEYs in them so they're also in-demand from arcade game collectors...
Try Farming Simulator 19 for which c64 version is sorta demo/curio. There's really no comparison between the two. You'd need a good pc tho and real farming sim wouldn't be a good fit for this channel (perhaps if you had a general gaming channel...) Farming Simulator 19 has much more variety than c64 version
I love your content, and I really love your setup. I especially love that you do Commodore reviews! But there's something about your voice that grates on my ears. I can't put my finger on it, and I have to hit mute and use captions to get through your videos. I know it's not anything you can control, and my own voice is nothing to write home about. I just wish things were different. I'll keep watching, though!
They do look much closer to NES graphics than anything official I can remember. Not quite as colorful though and there’s still far too little RAM to do anything too interesting.
It seems like modern games for ancient systems are able to squeeze every last bit out of the hardware and then some. In practicality those games wouldn't be made in the 1980s due to being coded in brain-twisting low level languages and game design still being in its early stages. For example, Retro City Rampage 486 for MS-DOS will run on a 20MHz 386 DOS PC provided there is at least 4MB of RAM (despite the "486" in the game title). That system configuration was available in 1988, but had this system released for DOS in 1988 it would have been the most advanced game not only for IBM compatibles, but for any home computer system or game console. Nobody would have thought it was possible back then, nobody would have realized how to optimize memory in such a way back then. This game was made in six months by one guy working in his spare time as a bonus for the collectors edition of the main Retro City Rampage game. Those games are the product of over 30 years of programming techniques and game design.
@@elimalinsky7069 I respect what your saying. However compiling, debugging, and coding on modern hardware I'm sure is much faster. Also the 7800 and NES had the same CPU. A lot of people overlook that. I'll add that getting 30 years on some is not really fair. Edit: No disrespect to anyone, their work speaks volumes.
It's using the 7800's 320B graphic mode, a custom memory mapper and sound chip. One reason why (some) modern games on retro systems look better is that bigger ROM chips and custom hardware are more readily available. The original 7800 developers had to work on a tight schedule and limited budget. The latter is also the reason why only two games of the original library had a Pokey chip for better sound...
farm sim has the eu version of the esrb label on the cartridge i noticed in an older video when you showed if off the first time. figured the game would work here in the states
To Fawzan Fawzi: I'm not quite sure if that would be the case or not, but I honestly find those type of characters to be a lot more appealing than human characters for some reason.
A pair of _foxy_ twin sisters named Rikki and Vikki modelled nude for Playboy. I dunno if the naming in the game is a reference or if it's just a coincidence.
I am VERY impressed with the 7800 game. However, I thought the Farming simulator sucked. I mean if a person wanted to be a farmer that would be great. Thank you for the review.
“Ha! Furry,” says the person whose username is one of the main characters from sonic (cough, MilesPrower1992, cough.) Dang man, I knew gamers and furries were at war, but I didn’t expect it to go into full on brigading.
Your a fucking furry Ha! what is wrong with you what do you have tiki's too and what do you do go to your little website and talk to the talk just fuck off from this cool channel and go to Jake Paul or whatever you watch you 7 year old Come back to that
Some great looking work there; kudos to the developers .. Farming looks a bit odd, but the others, have some heart, and good music, good approaches, good art.. well done!
10:54 "Farming simulator just feels like work to me"
So what you're saying is... the game is a very realistic simulation ;)
Excellent console prop, if I do say so myself.
Nostalgia Nerd throughly enjoyed my copy mate 👌🏻
Thanks for the support ;)
You wrote a book on old tech? Where, how, when?!
Nice shoutout for you there matey
Hey, Nostalgia Nerd! I've read your book! I've just got one question, why didn'y you put the PET in?
That Rikki & Vikki game looks like a real coop treat. And every game there is truly a marvel in old school programming tech.
I hope Rikki & Vikki does well, the dev seems to have put a lot of work into it.
I just wish they still produced cartridges. I guess it's probably possible to do that myself from the steam game (since that's just an emulator running the rom), but it's not quite the same.
I also wish it was advertised a little bit more. I only learned of its existence because I follow RushJet1, who composed the music for the game and posted it on his RUclips channel.
If its anything, in 2024 the steam version is still up. Gonna grab it soon.
Holy moly, Rikki and Vikki is far beyond any 7800 game ever made! Amazing!
Well, as I understand it they "cheat" a bit by adding powerful (compared to the 7800) hardware to the cartridge.
But there were cartridge based games which basically did the same back in the day, extending the life of popular systems.
@@Mnnvint Lots of cartridges do that.
Just for the grafics on "Digiloi" : The very early games "Forbidden Forest" Part I and II also used this kind of grafics, but the programmer used alternated character sets. Part one of Forbidden Forst was also the first game to inroduce paralax scroling on the C64. Cause the whole background gfx was done by characters, the programmer used three sprites to setup the paralax scroling elements.
Why do I love this channel so much? I'm a late millenial born in a lower middle-class Brazilian household so the first computer I had was a Windows 95 back in like 2001. I didn't have any contact with any of the computers this guy shows yet I love this channel so much. Perhaps it's because he's actually the kind of geek who was bullied in school for being so smart and not these trendy RUclipsrs who label themsevels geek because they watched the latest Marvel superhero movie.
have you seen his old photos though? he looked like those cliché bullies from the movies or a James Bond villain
I also never even once used these types of old computers but they are very interesting to read or hear about.
Are you me but on the other side of the world? I'm the same background but Canadian not Brazilian.
Wow, very impressed with Rikki & Vikki. I don't have a 7800 but thankfully the game also came out on Steam.
It's not a box! It's a companion cube, it has feelings!
Did you incinerate your companion cube yet?
Not all cubes in Portal are Companion Cubes. The Companion Cube was _a specific cube_ designated as such as part of a particular experiment to test the subject's vulnerability to emotional suggestion.
@@JosephDavies if we are being pedantic it's "Weighed Companion Cube". The normal one is "Weighed Storage Cube".
@@mikosoft Ah yes, I had forgotten! Thank you for the correction.
@@mikosoft If you get pedantic, you invite more pedantry. ;)
It's actually "weighted" instead of "weighed", presumably because it's been made extra heavy.
I saw that farming sim earlier, thought it was a joke, but they managed to get a lot of stuff into a limited platform. Very cool! Makes me wanna fire up Steam and my real Farming Simulator! And Portal2 of course! ;)
And while I am at it, for those going to ask what song he’s playing in the background: ruclips.net/video/PgPQCYvReGg/видео.html 😉
How did you watch it 6 hrs ago when it came out like 30 mins ago.
Farming simulator is actually a game on modern consoles. Not my thing though.
its_shady_00 www.patreon.com ;)
Anders Enger Jensen The link gave me anxiety on whether or not I would get rickrolled.
FS64 originally WAS an April Fool's joke... but so many people got excited by the idea that Giants actually found a couple of their guys who knew Commodore 64 programming to write the game for real.
Rikki and Vikki is a fun little game. I have the Steam version and love it. Spoke with the creator and did a lengthy interview with him as well. Hope to have that up soon
I can't wait to see it!
I wonder if the Steam version is literally the same version inside an emulator wrapper. That's certainly one way to keep it faithful to the limitations of old systems!
Sup Stu I did not expect to see you here
Cool it was on Steam. I'm an Atari 2600 homebrewer myself (Princess Rescue and Zippy the Porcupine) and love seeing this kind of stuff for classic platforms.
@@stevethepocket Yes, it is. The creator made his own 7800 emulator from scratch specifically for the game's digital version. Details are here: tailchao.com/BupSystem/index.php
This channel is one of the most pure fun places on RUclips. David's enthusiasm and knowledge of all the retro hardware, with particularly awesome restorations; it's such a wholesome combo. Love ya 8-Bit Guy!
Thanks for reviewing Portal, I was so pleased when i found out that "The 8-Bit Guy" was reviewing it (and that he said nice things )
Dude that portal game reminds me of the flash version of it someone made that I absolutely enjoyed. This sounds hella fun though and it looks dope!
You didn't explain, that Farming Simulator is a very successful simulator series for PC and consoles, including dozens of real live farming equipment. The series has a huge fan base, a big modding scene - there is even a "Modding Farming Simulator for Dummies" issue - and it saw iterations over years now. One of the most successful games series of all time. It is produced by Swiss based Giants Software and they made this game as a retro/demake of the original series. Nice guys btw., been with them several times for lunch during GamesCom.
Don't forget that there is also a competitive scene to this game also
Also apparently they are getting their Farming Simulator eSport scene on. I was actually amazed to learn that exists. Also FS is huge thing in Germany. Not really my type of the game, but still, glad to see it makes some people happy.
It's crazy that it's an official version!! I thought it was a fan-made one like Portal.
Huge in uk too youtuber daggerwin is pretty much fs dedicated his latest FS series has nearly 100 episodes
I was born in '86 so I grew up in the age of MS-DOS games and beyond (I have very vague memories of using my dad's C64 before that though as a very small child). I do love that I got to grow up in the 90s and experience the birth of modern gaming first hand (especially internet gaming!) but I am sad that I missed out on a lot of awesome gaming tech before that though, like the Atari, Amiga, and C64 (being old enough to actually understand what I was playing, that is).
Those look like pretty fun games. I'm still really loving playing Planet X3 though.
MontieMongoose plantx3? I thought he didn't released it yet?
@@andrewstuart669 For Kickstarter backers it's already out. I reviewed it on my channel.
@CyDragonGM Not to the general public yet. I believe David is going to get all the Kickstarter backers their copies first and then it should be available on his website later. But it is a really fun game.
it's out?
I've been watching for years, and you're one of the first people I ever actually bothered to subscribe to. Glad to keep seeing updates
It's amazing that there is a portal game in C64 !!
Rikki and Vikki is on steam. Thanks for reviewing it man, I'm pretty interested in it and I'm glad I don't have to have an atari 7800 to make that happen :)
PenguiNet of Zaku fame! The best game on the Lynx... and while that isn't saying much, it's a great game!
What is wrong with you?
Yep, PenguiNet's still around - and hey, so are you!
omg youre not dead!?
Come on now rygar on the lynx was pretty sweet. Also, Road blasters.
The only way to stop people wondering about your vitality is to start uploading again! ;)
Great haul of games. Rikki and Vikki looked fantastic during the unboxing and it certainly didn't disappoint here. That would've made the developers rich had it come out in the day as would any of these games really. Thanks for the excellent review.
I think the Farming Simulator is mostly cool in principle - I would definitely love if more companies advertised their major products by commissioning their demakes. Kinda like Halo 2600 or Dark Void Zero.
And you know, I think people who actually do enjoy those 'zen games' like Farming Simulator or Euro Truck Simulator would probably get some enjoyment out of it.
Three years late, but have you found the real farming simulator game series? The C64 port is literally am April fools gag that they decided to make real later. So it's kind of not meant to be great for playing.
@@alexmcd378 yeah, I did! Thanks for asking!
I know it's five years later, but as to your 7800 games new-in-box: Open them! Games were meant to be played! ;-) Besides, the 7800 is one of my favorite systems, and while the library is sadly smaller than it deserved, it has some real gems in it. Of course, you could just get a BackBit or other modern multi-cart and try everything out on your 7800 that way. 🙂 Ricky and Vicky looks great (too bad the cartridge version is no longer available), and that C64 Portal game is downright impressive for what it is! Thanks for showing all of them!
The thing that makes me a little sad when i see stuff like this or other games like Terraria (not saying the actual version we use would run on super old hardware) is that back in the day many things where not actual technical limitations but the games where just so much simpler (in a bad way, for a change). They could have done AMAZING games even with the old hardware. Sadly most old games, as much as my nostalgia prompts me to glorify them, where super simplistic and, to be frank, dumb, to the point where it is a complete mystery to me how i spend that much time with them back in the day. We could have had amazing space trade games, or adventure games, etc. Instead of all the super simplistic pew-pew shooters. Good game design isn't hardware dependent. (other than not having enough memory to run the code, ill give them that. But that wasn't a technical limitation, it was a marketing limitation) The Farming Simulator here is actually a good example how the game is much dumber than it needs to be. Sure you don't have amazing 3d graphics, but there is no reason to not add a ton of gameplay in there. Instead they make it as simple as they can get away with and ship it.
The Atari 7800 was my first console. I still have all my games. Never could I have imagined a new game coming out in 2019. I'm gonna do my darndest to get myself a copy.
Get the to the AtariAge dot com website. The 7800 has a very strong homebrew retro scene to it. Bob "Pac-Man Plus" DeCrescenzo has programmed almost as many homebrew titles as Atari Corp released for the console during its commercial shelf life. There's cartridges sold in AtariAge's own website store as well as by pro-homebrewers in the forums section. And if you have an Atari CX22 or CX80 Trak-Ball controller, get 7800 "Centipede-TB" from AtariAge. It has native Trak-Ball support built in so it plays so much better than the original commercial release did. There's also a 7800 Facebook group too with about 1,400 ish members currently...
I would have loved playing Rikki and Vikki back when I was a kid.
Glad to see the C64 still has a fairly active homebrew scene. Rikki & Vikki looked fantastic and had an awesome art style as well.
Time to import a PAL television, I'm sure Techmoan could hook you up.
I'm impressed with the 3d like graphics that farm simulator employs. It's amazing that old hardware is this powerful
Nice putting Nostalgia Nerds Book to use I see! ;)
Making Nostalgia Nerd proud.
You're gonna hit the Million soon! Congrats!
I can't wait for David to get his channel to 1 million subscribers!
Yeah, we’ll all be popping champagne corks and doing cartwheels.
Road to a million.
The care he puts in his videos is great. He even has real caption support, that's hard to come by.
Time stamps and links:
1:06 Rikki & Vikki - 7800/Steam
3:39 (gameplay)
www.penguinet.net/Games/Rikki_Vikki/Purchase/index.php
5:59 Digiloi -C64
csdb.dk/release/?id=173193
7:06 Farming Simulator -C64
9:23 (gameplay)
www.farming-simulator.com/dlc-detail.php?dlc_id=fs19c64
11:36 Portal -C64
www.jamiefuller.com/portal/
Awesome! The 7800 was my first console as a kid. I'll never forget the first game I ever played. It was pole position 2, it came with the system. Then my dad bought centipede and Dr. J v.s. Larry Bird basketball!
Dang, Rikki & Vikki looks great! I wonder why, if the ol' 7800 could handle such graphics, why didn't more games look this good?
Mister Badzilla Atari being cheap is a big part of it. This game was four years in development, six megabits in size and contains custom sound hardware and mappers. The Tramiels would never have paid for that back in the day
Well, the developers of Rikki & Vikki had the benefit of literally decades of documentation from people who learned to squeeze every last drop of performance out of a 33-year-old console. I'm sure that was a factor.
SpearM75503 possibly, though I’d argue that there weren’t a lot of developers back then who learned how to squeeze every ounce of juice out of the system. Devs just didn’t make seven generations of 7800 games
These are my favorite vids on this channel
I definitely think the C64 Farming Simulator is just a novelty for fans of the series.
Most of the shit reviewed is merely a novelty anyway.
@Metagalactic Llama at least the portal game is playable. It has a beginning, middle and end. It took the independent designer a long time to make, and they aren't making any profit. The farm simulator for C64 is about as complex and interactive as a snow globe. It's more like a working model for fans to put on a shelf. And it's absolutely for profit. That's why they sent a copy to Dave.
I got farming sim for the 64. It looks great but there's just not much to it. Kinda dull. Portal is a genuinely good game. It's a shame it's so short. My nephew loved it so much he completed it. He doesn't care that hes playing it on a computer nearly 4 times older than him.
Sarginitial I bought the collects edition for fs19 I don’t play fs64 it just cool that I have a collects edition that might go for something one day
Wow, these were so cool! Thanks for showing them!
Rikki & Vikki is super cute and omg the Portal one 😩👌
Hey man, just wanted to say that i appreciate your content! Keep up the great work!
Atari games never interested me, but that Rikki & Vikki game looks like great fun. Reminds me of Taito classics.
Farming Sims have never been my thing but it is really impressive how much complexity they managed to get into the port. There's a lot going on in that game even if the gameplay isn't all that.
It's 2:49 AM here, but Mr. Murray strikes again with a new video. Nice
:D XD
I love the fact that it looks like we live in a time where "gardening" needs the qualifier "real life" to distinguish it from the most common form of gardening, which is virtual, apparently.
the ARM chip in the 7800 version of Rikki and Vikki used for sound sounds like a wavetable chip..almost like a namco 163 or something.
My guess is they are using the mozzi arduino sound library, that's how I make chiptune on an arm chip.
it IS a little like the N163 in that it's a wavetable, but it's much more capable. N163 is way more memory-limited and has the multiplexing issue that creates a 15khz buzz when using all 8 channels. Interestingly though, I used N163 in FamiTracker to make the music in Rikki & Vikki, then exported that to the actual format. It sometimes sounds quite similar, but other times N163 can't keep up.
It definitely sounds like the SCC soundchip of the MSX computers.
The entire soundtrack can be heard here:
rushjet1.com/album/rikki-vikki
@@ChrisLeeW00 Nah, uses BupBoop : tailchao.com/Audio/index.php#BupBoop
@@RushJet1 woah didn't expect to see you here! it's interesting to know that the music did start out in an N163 compatible format
thank you for showing me rikki and vikki! It's really good, dare I say, a masterpiece
I always have to appreciate a video game with foxes in it! :D
Rikki & Vikki seems a very addictive game. lots of fun, and the graphics are also incredibly good (something I did not expect from the Atari 7800).
So high quality games for obsolete computers are a thing now?
Awesome!
Ricky and friend looks more fun then most recent tech games
The C64 version of Portal reminds me of a Flash version that's floating around the net. That version got pretty difficult in the later stages. Not in figuring out what to do, just getting the timing right.
Also, I love the title screen to Farming Simulator. It's not that I have a thing for farms or anything, I just find the coloring on it to be quite nice.
Great review of games, David! I really enjoy your content! Keep up the good work, David!
Rikki & Vikki will be going on sale this Monday and I can't wait. :)
You seem like such a nice & humble guy. I like that.
At least, Portal is my favorite. Quite retro indeed. ;-)
Yeah my favourite game is portal
Kudos, I love the music that you use in the background of your videos.
i wanna see a full playthrough of Rikki and Vikki.
[5:40] In fact, playing with two players is actually required for the good ending in Rikki & Vikki.
Sure..lure me in with the thumbnail of 7800 Joust.
Best channel on youtube.
hey so that portal music is super good
Iirc, Giants Software announced c64 Farming Simulator as an April fools joke. Then they actually made it. So it's more of a gag product than a serious game
Its 2:42 AM. Well, sleep is overrated anyway so I guess I'll watch it now. :D
Good grief. :D
Portal! Sweet! I'm going to check it out. Thanks for showing.
-_- is that really how you view knitting?
I was a bit astonished by this as well, being the husband of a very accomplished knitter and yarn company owner.
My wife would have a _fit_ of she overheard that!
Jeeze, worste analogy ever. Even with cross stitch and puzzle making you get the "climax" of sewing the final stitch or placing the final piece. I stare at my wife's knitting patterns, tho, wondering when exactly she learned an extraterrestrial language. Wtf is a knit purl yarn over? "Its ok honey, go back to your tinkering."
Settle down - it's not like that for everyone, but I do know a few people who do it just to keep their hands occupied while watching the Netflix.
@@nickwallette6201 Knitflix lol :-)
man they did such a great job in those games. Kudos
LGR likes some of the windows releases of farming simulator, so I wonder if he'll do a review of the c64 version
I find the C64 edition of Farming simulator extremely amazing side project for game studio that works with modern computers. When it comes to Portal, it isn't box. It is cube. The PC game is as great as C64 rendition of it.
Framing simulator c64 edition was just an april fools joke from gaints.
I'll stick with FS19 with John Deere.
That Outro is AMAZING!
Every time I see a Farming Simulator I want to play Goat Simulator. After watching this video I wonder how Goat Simulator would play on Commidore 64?
Rikki & Vikki looks mindbogglingly good in terms of graphics. I didn't know the 7800 was capable of something like this.
I think the secret is the large amount of RAM and storage: With the flash ROM and the CPLD as a bankswitch controller, the game can consist of considerably more data than in the golden days, and they can switch between banks within a few microseconds, there is no need to "load" any data, it is all available during gameplay.
The 7800 has just 4KB of RAM internally: The on-cartridge RAM will be a huge help in being able to get a more complex game on the screen.
The hardware is now cheap, but would have been very costly back in the day.
@@danielmantione there were several 7800 carts that had 16K RAM in them back in the day. The problem was there weren't a lot of high capacity ROM games back then for the 7800. There were a few 128K ROM games and one 256K ROM game.
I think Germans love farming simulators. This is not a joke.
Bubble Bobble also had that bottom to top wrap mechanism and more recently Towerfall as well
The most amazing thing to me is that the Portal game has an animated ponytail on the character.
As always nice video, great new games for the old systems. Thank you very much David!
You can just _tell_ that the people behind Rikki and Vikki were furries.
What can I say, the furrys made a great game
The cutscene art definitely has a Tiny Toons vibe to it, which suggests that they're old-school furries at that.
Just for those wonderin', I'm not complaining btw (my SO's a furry for frick's sake), just makin' that there astute observation.
Hehe
What's wrong with that?
I feel like the 8-bit guy is the most endearing youtuber for some reason xD
So if there's a chip in the Ricki and Vicki cart that is more powerful than the 7800, is the system actually doing anything then? Seems like it'd be just a glorified video pass through. As for Farming Simulator, it looks very competently produced!
That chip is specifically producing the audio (in software).
@@RushJet1 Do you know if it is emulating the Pokey chip like Ballblazer uses? Or is it more of a custom implementation? *Edit- It seems you had a hand in the development, and reading another one of your comments answered for me that it is not a re-implementation of the Pokey chip. Still interesting to be sure.
@@vgtheory It's more custom.
@@vgtheory the 7800 was designed to be able to use cart-based audio chips. The ARM chip is playing the music; it isn't emulating a POKEY. Nor is it running game code - the 7800's SALLY 6502C is doing all of that - or the graphics duties [the 7800's MARIA chip is doing that]. Even the 7800's TIA chip is handling the audio SFX. They went with the ARM because it's dirt-cheap whereas the much less powerful POKEY is getting sky-high in prices these days. The POKEY is in short NOS supplies because so many 7800 home brew games want to use it, 5200 and Atari 8-bit computer users want spares to replace old defective units or to do Stereo POKEY mods to their rigs, and plenty of Atari Coin-Op games used 1-4 POKEYs in them so they're also in-demand from arcade game collectors...
Amazing games (exc. FS). Oh and what a lovely song by Anders Jensen!
Try Farming Simulator 19 for which c64 version is sorta demo/curio. There's really no comparison between the two. You'd need a good pc tho and real farming sim wouldn't be a good fit for this channel (perhaps if you had a general gaming channel...)
Farming Simulator 19 has much more variety than c64 version
I will totally be buying Rikki & Vikki on steam. It looks superb! ✨👍🏻
If 8BitGuy ever gonna grow hugeee he definitely gonna buy a Lamborghini Countach!
how about a tesla instead? ;)
@@brewHamm Because Tesla isn't from the 80s?
First, he needs to buy a 7800 controller.
A Delorean. You gotta have a BTTF car.
Or a fox body mustang!
I love your content, and I really love your setup. I especially love that you do Commodore reviews! But there's something about your voice that grates on my ears. I can't put my finger on it, and I have to hit mute and use captions to get through your videos. I know it's not anything you can control, and my own voice is nothing to write home about. I just wish things were different. I'll keep watching, though!
Dude how the holy F is the 7800 producing graphics like this!? Those seriously look like Yoshi's island with super FX graphics no joke.
Not sure if trolling.
They do look much closer to NES graphics than anything official I can remember. Not quite as colorful though and there’s still far too little RAM to do anything too interesting.
It seems like modern games for ancient systems are able to squeeze every last bit out of the hardware and then some. In practicality those games wouldn't be made in the 1980s due to being coded in brain-twisting low level languages and game design still being in its early stages.
For example, Retro City Rampage 486 for MS-DOS will run on a 20MHz 386 DOS PC provided there is at least 4MB of RAM (despite the "486" in the game title). That system configuration was available in 1988, but had this system released for DOS in 1988 it would have been the most advanced game not only for IBM compatibles, but for any home computer system or game console. Nobody would have thought it was possible back then, nobody would have realized how to optimize memory in such a way back then. This game was made in six months by one guy working in his spare time as a bonus for the collectors edition of the main Retro City Rampage game.
Those games are the product of over 30 years of programming techniques and game design.
@@elimalinsky7069 I respect what your saying. However compiling, debugging, and coding on modern hardware I'm sure is much faster.
Also the 7800 and NES had the same CPU. A lot of people overlook that. I'll add that getting 30 years on some is not really fair.
Edit: No disrespect to anyone, their work speaks volumes.
It's using the 7800's 320B graphic mode, a custom memory mapper and sound chip. One reason why (some) modern games on retro systems look better is that bigger ROM chips and custom hardware are more readily available. The original 7800 developers had to work on a tight schedule and limited budget. The latter is also the reason why only two games of the original library had a Pokey chip for better sound...
Those first three games are incredible with amazing graphics.
owo whats this? a new 8bit guy video?
stopping everything im doing to watch this
I'm always happy to see new games with cute anthro characters.
0:10 you can tell, he is still shaken from unboxing
??
the video before this one, was unboxing video, which he doesn't like
farm sim has the eu version of the esrb label on the cartridge i noticed in an older video when you showed if off the first time. figured the game would work here in the states
*Is Rikki & Vikki made by the furry community?*
jus
To Fawzan Fawzi: I'm not quite sure if that would be the case or not, but I honestly find those type of characters to be a lot more appealing than human characters for some reason.
I don't think so.
A pair of _foxy_ twin sisters named Rikki and Vikki modelled nude for Playboy. I dunno if the naming in the game is a reference or if it's just a coincidence.
No, it was developed by five humans.
Nice and calm review! Thank you!
I am VERY impressed with the 7800 game. However, I thought the Farming simulator sucked. I mean if a person wanted to be a farmer that would be great. Thank you for the review.
Riki and Vikki is a beautiful game!
The one person who disliked this video is the creator of Farming Simulator.
Wow very impressive titles, especially Rikki and Vikki and Portal looks amazing :O
Hey, uh, everyone, just because a game has anthropomorphic animal characters doesn’t mean it’s made by furries.
Thanks,
The furry community
Holy sh*t you are a spokesperson of the furry community? That's so cool.
Ha! Furry
Yiff off!
“Ha! Furry,” says the person whose username is one of the main characters from sonic (cough, MilesPrower1992, cough.) Dang man, I knew gamers and furries were at war, but I didn’t expect it to go into full on brigading.
Your a fucking furry Ha! what is wrong with you what do you have tiki's too and what do you do go to your little website and talk to the talk just fuck off from this cool channel and go to Jake Paul or whatever you watch you 7 year old Come back to that
Some great looking work there; kudos to the developers .. Farming looks a bit odd, but the others, have some heart, and good music, good approaches, good art.. well done!