Are Gojo and Geto Gay?

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    Tracklist :
    (can’t put timestamps or youtube will turn the songs into chapters in the video - sorry)
    Abstractions of Rain - Bad Dudes
    Soul & Mind - E’s Jammy Jams
    Misconception - Myuu
    Nocturne of Ice - Stardew Valley
    Sadpad - Pilotredsun
    Pulsazioni - Filippo Trecca
    THANATOS - NGEN64
    Them’s Fightin’ Words - Hylics 2
    With a Stamp - Twin Musicom
    Upward Movement - Homestuck
    Believe in my Heart - Ys III
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  • @Your7T7
    @Your7T7 Месяц назад +2318

    Everything surrounding their relationship is just so intensely romantic (whether or not the love itself is romantic, this is undeniably true) that I can't help but interpret them as gay, or rather in love with each other regardless of what sexuality they align with. There is still plenty of evidence that you didn't go over, like the English translation of what Gojo says to Geto being almost directly confirmed as "I love you" by Gojo's English VA, and the visuals of Ao no Sumika, but even with just this video's worth of evidence it seems all but confirmed. It's incredibly frustrating to see people attempting to shoot down this idea off of plausible deniability; "it isn't confirmed therefore it isn't true", when this is not at all how human emotions work in real life. Your loved one could be suffering and not tell you, that doesn't mean that suffering doesn't exist. People treat emotional nuance in media the same way they treat POWER SCALING and that, to me at least, shows a COMPLETE lack of reading comprehension beyond the absolute surface level. Nuance is extremely important when tackling these kinds of topics as you point out in the video itself.
    I am not against anyone viewing these two as just the bestest, most closest, most huggiest of roommates, but I personally feel that it is just too overwhelmingly obvious what Gege WANTS you to think they are to each other to see it any other way myself. And as someone who idolizes romantic love as one of the most beautiful things a human being can experience, it just makes the story of Geto and Gojo all the more tragic and, for lack of a better word, beautiful in my eyes. I can never see Ao no Sumika as anything other than a love song, and that makes it pair especially nicely with SPECIALZ, which is from the perspective of Sukuna, the character most vehemently and vocally against love in the entire series. It further eccentuates the still ongoing conflict of ideals between Gojo and Sukuna on top of the literal battle they were having at the time of Season 2's release. "The one who will teach you about love is..!"

    • @Geilolp.
      @Geilolp. Месяц назад +30

      yap.

    • @Your7T7
      @Your7T7 Месяц назад +214

      @@Geilolp. You said one word and still somehow made less than one word’s worth of contribution

    • @mira.r
      @mira.r Месяц назад +17

      Wait wait wait gojo straight up said (or idk sth close to it) "I love you" to geto?? When was this? 😭

    • @Your7T7
      @Your7T7 Месяц назад +128

      @@mira.r Gojo's english VA was asked at a convention what Gojo's last words to Geto were. He responded "I've been sworn to secrecy on that" and "It was localized I'm allowed to say that, and I am allowed to say that it was three words". Since there are little to no combinations of 3 words that would make sense in the context OTHER THAN "I love you", there isn't much speculation to be had here.
      Some have said that maybe it was "my best friend" or "you're my friend", but neither of those make much sense as last words before murdering someone (with the former outright making no grammatical sense?), nor do either of those tackle the fact that what he said was LOCALIZED instead of just TRANSLATED (aka, it was changed to be more clearly understood by western english-speaking audiences). Given the many different words for and expressions of love in Japan, it makes sense that it would have to be localized to a simple "I love you" if that was the intended meaning of his original Japanese statement.

    • @rajaryan-fe1oy
      @rajaryan-fe1oy Месяц назад +26

      @@mira.r it's not confirmed as far as I know, his English VA said Gojo told him 3 words before killing him, which could be anything on it's own but with all this combined, I'm leaning towards an I love You, even though to me personally Geto's reaction to that didn't sit very right, but it was so long ago we really don't know

  • @stitch8296
    @stitch8296 Месяц назад +1904

    Saw the title and just thought “yeah probably”

  • @diogitalk
    @diogitalk Месяц назад +2278

    Bro even posted this during Pride Month and Men's Mental Health month. That's genius scheduling.

    • @moonlightmiracles1844
      @moonlightmiracles1844 Месяц назад +100

      You're the first person I've seen say it's both at the same time, I appreciate that

    • @D.A.F.O
      @D.A.F.O Месяц назад +56

      Thank you for mentioning the latter, sucks that it isn't as mainstream as pride month
      :(

    • @Daluser_Not_Found
      @Daluser_Not_Found Месяц назад

      ​@@D.A.F.Oactually it's because most of people just thinks they are the same thing because the whole point of the pride month is the emotional support and the mental health support to people who suffers from discrimination.

    • @Fillyshejay
      @Fillyshejay 13 дней назад +8

      @@moonlightmiracles1844 so fr, its disappointing that some people cant just see it as both, cause both are very important! 😭

    • @m1lo606
      @m1lo606 6 дней назад +3

      ​@@FillyshejayExactly this! You can care for both. Afterall alot of mens problems are rooted in homophobia (and misogyny,, eg the patriarchy makes that Men cant be emotional cause thats feminine and feminity makes you gay) but some people refuses to acknowledge that for some reason. Its good to see other people appreciating both

  • @mymelodyjeongin5644
    @mymelodyjeongin5644 Месяц назад +1492

    they're gay, because if one of them was a girl nobody would argue about their relationship

    • @LiN0K_
      @LiN0K_ Месяц назад +65

      Ehhhhh not really. In fact it’s quite the opposite actually. People nowadays fetishize and sexualize BL/GL characters and openly hate straight ships. That’s why I personally don’t view them as lovers (cuz a lot of ppl sexualize their relationship) but I can’t view them as “just friends” either. The “love” they have for each other much deeper than that

    • @Daluser_Not_Found
      @Daluser_Not_Found Месяц назад +224

      ​@@LiN0K_when did someone fetishize or sexualize their relationship?

    • @starznight
      @starznight Месяц назад +7

      Exactly

    • @starznight
      @starznight Месяц назад +122

      @@LiN0K_so u just admit u think they r lovers but u cant view it as that bc ur tryne be different?..

    • @applejuice8118
      @applejuice8118 Месяц назад +34

      @@LiN0K_do you live under a rock?

  • @loja7576
    @loja7576 Месяц назад +2112

    "this is true love" played when geto died
    Gojo knows him by scent
    "My best friend, my one and only"
    Geto speaks softer around gojo
    Geto wears a "gojo-kesa"
    First name basis w/o honorifics
    Getos body choked kenny cuz "protecting gojo came naturally" (geges words)
    Died same date

    • @sofanna-gedmana
      @sofanna-gedmana Месяц назад +95

      happy gay month gay flag

    • @mochiiharakami
      @mochiiharakami Месяц назад +106

      Their names match start letter and last letter, Geto and Gojo
      G and O if you think about it
      Same for their last names:
      Suguru, Satoru
      S and U

    • @CamiWuzHere
      @CamiWuzHere Месяц назад +55

      @@mochiiharakamialso their names have the same number of letters

    • @mochiiharakami
      @mochiiharakami Месяц назад +6

      @@CamiWuzHere ye

    • @demdem7946
      @demdem7946 Месяц назад +64

      ⁠​⁠@@mochiiharakami this also matches with the only confirmed romantic people within jjk: miwa kasumi / muta kokichi, hakari kinji / hoshi kirara

  • @megumintobuna-4537
    @megumintobuna-4537 Месяц назад +1069

    Imagine a guy and a girl. The girl leaves the guy despite their years of harmonious friendship, the guy calls her his “one and only” they both die on basically Valentines day for what it’s worth, the girl is the only one that the guy had ever been comfortable and truly himself with.
    It sounds like a fcking romance novel plot when u say it like this bruh.

    • @starznight
      @starznight Месяц назад +214

      If they were straight the whole fandom would ship it lol

    • @megumintobuna-4537
      @megumintobuna-4537 Месяц назад +104

      @@starznight jjk s2 would’ve been a shoujo anime lmao

    • @jubileelinee
      @jubileelinee Месяц назад +63

      @@starznightliterally omfg ppl have double standards for no reason

    • @zennaonthez
      @zennaonthez Месяц назад +14

      ​@@starznight yeah probably because the way gojo and geto behave is extremely common for asian boys to behave with their besties but not with girls. I always saw them as friends as i've seen thousands of friendships like theirs is in real life. Westerners will probably call this gay but idk seems just like friendship to me.

    • @pandaworld8166
      @pandaworld8166 Месяц назад

      @@zennaonthez I guess this is why Asians are stereotyped as the gay ones in media, lol

  • @brodenspates1826
    @brodenspates1826 Месяц назад +2701

    i think the whole point behind the "me and bro" gojo and geto memes is that me n bro are a lil gay

  • @dimaf5594
    @dimaf5594 Месяц назад +471

    these two were the original situationship

  • @BlackRicard0
    @BlackRicard0 Месяц назад +1063

    Fellas is it gay to being unable to connect with anyone so deeply except with you bro, your one and only, the one that teaches you how love is the most twisted curse of all of them? No? Thanks god

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 Месяц назад

      Very gay dude.

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад +56

      @@Oreosseasy, wear socks /j
      Aw man, now my comment doesn’t make any sense since the original comment is gone 😔

    • @poisonedlavender
      @poisonedlavender Месяц назад

      ​@@Oreoss just say no homo at the end! Works really well

    • @Dogeycorgi
      @Dogeycorgi Месяц назад +13

      @@kaytionalexa945LOL nope it doesnt

  • @MYHERO_2AM
    @MYHERO_2AM Месяц назад +899

    It literally doesn’t change the story so I don’t know why people are so against them being in love 💀

    • @vulmere
      @vulmere Месяц назад +101

      true 😭 to me it makes their relationship even more painful just that but it really doesn't change anything

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 Месяц назад +35

      I personally think it ruins a bit of the symbolism behind these 2 , ever since day 1 , gojo was told he was the strongest, he was told he was the reason the balance of humans and curses in jjk shifted , he was pretty much treated like a god and kept away from the outside world by his clan , but then , when he met geto , he could finally have someone just strong enough to relate to , and the thing is , geto pulled gojo down to earth , geto was a special grade who grew up in a family of non-sorcerers , he wasnt raised and treated like a god , he didnt turn out to be arrogant , he was Humble, that is what helped geto change gojo in a way you know ? Geto was the Bridge between gojo and his humanity , because gojo didnt belive he could have such a thing when ever since day 1 he was treated like a god and a tool , so them being BFFS , at least me , makes way more sense , and yes , i can acknowledge that gojo and geto do share such a deep bond that not many BFFs have , but i see it as platonic love , that they saw eachother as brothers . ( ps. But that doesnt mean i hate anyone who ships these 2 , u can i ship them , i personally find the ship very saturated and overrated and i've already been through this before with naruto x sasuke , despite everyone shiping them , i never did and always saw them a friends , in the end , naruto got with hinata ).

    • @pannajohns5255
      @pannajohns5255 Месяц назад +15

      ⁠@@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 but Naruto didn’t get with Sakura? She got with Sasuke and Naruto got with Hinata, though their relationships don’t have much chemistry, especially Sasuke and Sakura

    • @antoniocarlosoliveira9146
      @antoniocarlosoliveira9146 Месяц назад +3

      @@pannajohns5255 oh sorry , i keep mixing up these 2 , its been a long time since i watched naruto.

    • @justycz1304
      @justycz1304 Месяц назад +4

      Because they aren't. No hints. No nothing. There were literaly no romantic feelings between them.

  • @Cranefeathers
    @Cranefeathers Месяц назад +377

    Adding to these:
    Gege has confirmed that he reads BL series.
    Some of the gay relationships in the BL mangas that he reads share tons of similarities with Gojo and Geto's relationship.
    So there's a possibility that he got inspired by them.

    • @Oreoss
      @Oreoss Месяц назад

      WHAT IS THIS FR?? PUT THIS ON SKIBIDI

    • @GaussTheWarframe
      @GaussTheWarframe 28 дней назад +49

      Who knows, Suguru could’ve been wanting to “expand” Satorus “Domain” the whole time

    • @Na0m1z_
      @Na0m1z_ 27 дней назад +8

      ​@@GaussTheWarframeASJDJFJFKDHHFEJDJFD 😭😭😭

    • @Turettekun
      @Turettekun 23 дня назад +4

      LMAOO WHATT 😭😭​@@GaussTheWarframe

    • @ruminantdastellar7740
      @ruminantdastellar7740 22 дня назад +15

      GEGE READS THAT!?? oMG we're cooked, this is the last evidence needed

  • @doodleplayer4014
    @doodleplayer4014 Месяц назад +415

    I read them as "besties mutually pining for each other, but doomed to end in tragedy"

    • @Anna-zi7sx
      @Anna-zi7sx 24 дня назад +9

      Valid

    • @mira.r
      @mira.r 23 дня назад +46

      this is my exact thought omg!! they 100% never dated, never confessed their feelings, were never remotely honest with their feelings, BUT heavily pined for one another. 3 years of high school of yearning, then a falling-out, then 10 more years of even MORE painful yearning. they're like the poster-relationship of doomed yaoi.

  • @alexmanrique2280
    @alexmanrique2280 Месяц назад +1011

    Btw the producer that told the Steven universe crew that a gay wedding could kill the show was a gay man

    • @Seraphinamagi
      @Seraphinamagi Месяц назад +51

      Damn

    • @AJGundam
      @AJGundam Месяц назад +181

      Friendly fire will not be tolerated

    • @jamesjones5023
      @jamesjones5023 Месяц назад +13

      I mean i definitely stopped watching it because of the gay pandering.

    • @justinhigginbottom8668
      @justinhigginbottom8668 Месяц назад +191

      ​@@jamesjones5023 you're such a dork 😂

    • @TheManDude
      @TheManDude Месяц назад +163

      ⁠​⁠@@jamesjones5023”I mean I definitely stopped watching Sesame Street after it started teaching kids to resolve their issue peacefully.”

  • @bitnn4703
    @bitnn4703 Месяц назад +761

    Personally, I don't think JJK is about romantic love. I think its about love in general. Familial Love, Romantic Love, The Love for a Friend. There's examples of all types of them. Maki's love for her sister, Choso's love for his Brothers, Yuta's love for Rika, Hana's love for Megumi, Yuji's love for his friends, Geto's Love for fellow Sorcerers. It was never about romantic love in specific.
    Even more specifically, its about how love is a curse, and how it leads to terrible things. Maki's love for her sister led to a massacre. Choso's love for his brother's led to his death, and to his own self esteem being beyond diminished. Yuta's love for Rika... well it literally cursed him. Hana's love for Megumi led to not only her own injuries, but to Megumi becoming Sukuna's vessel. Yuji's love for his friends led to him suffering immensely, and many of those friends dying or suffering. Geto's love for his fellow sorcerers led to him going down the wrong path in life.
    Not only that, but those who forsake love are rewarded. Sukuna, namely, but also characters like Kenjaku, Uraume, Kashimo, even some Jujutsu High students like Hakari forsake love in different ways. Even worse, the one who learned what love is, Kashimo, died as soon as he learned it.
    But... not nessecarily.
    The more the story goes on, the more this narrative begins to change. The more love becomes a blessing rather than a curse. And the more those who forsake it get cursed instead. Sukuna has gone though absolute hell, Kenjaku died as a result, Uraume and Hakari are locked in a stalemate, with no way to help their allies. But Kashimo... he got rewarded as well as punished, in a way. He died, but he died happy and fufilled. The more characters embrace their love for each other, the more they win against Sukuna. The closer victory is.
    And I believe the one spearheading this is Yuji. The one who suffered the most from it, is slowly beginning to flip it on its head. Slowly, but very surely.

    • @jakob9323
      @jakob9323 Месяц назад +95

      Very fitting sukuna is the final villain as he views love as useless and thats probably a big reason he hates itadori so much. He is the most loving character we see

    • @personanonmaga5178
      @personanonmaga5178 Месяц назад +31

      that's a beautiful summary

    • @unlimon6382
      @unlimon6382 Месяц назад +33

      I think it's more about how love relates to violence in difference ways. Many characters were not "cursed by love" so to speak because love is part of them, but when they loose it or it starts damaging them you start wondering at what point it stops being wprth it and what point it's better to become like sukuna. Then you have characters like Toji that work completely opposite but also the same. Toji grew unstable, scornful and desperate to prove his family wrong but, once he found love, he changed. Later on, when he lost that love, he went back to how he was before, and all these voids and insucurities led him to his death and abandoning his child. It makes you question what was the real curse. The lack of love or love. The best example is Megumi. Although Toji denies it, the most probable thing is that he did love Megumi, which he named his blessing. After his wife passed, however, he became unable to take care of a child. Many like to speculate it's because it was a reminder of his dead wife, which is rather likely. In that way, it ended up being a curse too. He was essentially a character both blessed and cursed by love, but also cursed by the lack of love We can't also ignore the fact that Geto, for example, also changed because of the careless way he was forced into aituations he shouldn't have been exposed to and not feeling supported, which can be a lack of love or at least a percieved lack of love. Then we have Mei Mei and her brother, in which she doesn't really love him but she takes advantage of his feelings to explait him. And there are examples like Gojo who became a better person through love even if he also suffered greatly because of it.
      That way, I don't think jjk is simply going from the premise of love as a curse, but more generally from how love as a concept changes or affects people in major ways. Including the loss of loved ones, the absence of love, the lies about love, the exploitation of your love, or more positive feelings like the blooming or the discovery of love

    • @paullossypaulplossy
      @paullossypaulplossy Месяц назад

      why not mention gojos love for geto in this big ass comment? Isn’t that the whole point of the video?

    • @bigbruh5494
      @bigbruh5494 Месяц назад

      @BERF337it ain’t even that long you’ve probably write school essays longer than this

  • @saawysorenson4585
    @saawysorenson4585 Месяц назад +476

    I also thought it was just to express the way Gojo was fixated on Geto, in his eyes he was the only one sharing the same world with Gojo, love, romance whatever Geto was his world for all purposes. Gojo might not even understand what love is as hinted to, he just knew that Geto was the only one to ever understand him, love might not even be enough to describe it, romantic or not.

  • @tras500
    @tras500 Месяц назад +301

    10:30 it's also important to mention gojo actively picked that day. in chapter 221 when gojo gets unsealed and confronts kenjaku kenny initially proposes november 19, but gojo asks for december 24 and kenny replies "how romantic"
    now this could be interpreted as romanticism between gojo and sukuna, but the fact that kenny the person who has access to geto's memories and knows when he died says it leads me to believe otherwise.
    also on the topic of trans and non-binary characters in japanese media while i have zero credibility in the topic and am basically a complete outsider to japanese culture I believe gender transition is a bit more accepted in japanese culture than homosexuality moon channel has a great video on the topic if anyone is interested

  • @Certifiedfrogluvr
    @Certifiedfrogluvr Месяц назад +486

    It think it’s fine if you see them as lovers or if you see them as friends, but regardless of how you see them as long as you understand how important they are to each other in the series that’s all that really matters.

    • @everythingz888
      @everythingz888 Месяц назад +4

      Yes!!

    • @joyrogers3095
      @joyrogers3095 28 дней назад +6

      Exactly, but in the end of the day gege unfortunately never explicitly confirmed it or at least yet. So we shouldn’t ever really say its canon, its just heavily implied by the fans & others.

    • @gamer3d147
      @gamer3d147 21 день назад +4

      I feel like no one should argue that they’re soulmates

    • @BeaTades
      @BeaTades 19 дней назад

      yesss!!!! this!

    • @uwu-chan
      @uwu-chan 19 дней назад

      Yup, whether they are interpreted as friends or lovers, they are soulmates and deeply care about each other. That doesn’t change no matter how you see them.

  • @pannajohns5255
    @pannajohns5255 Месяц назад +165

    They are literal soulmates. They remind me of Soul and Maka from Soul Eater, they are soulmates, you can’t imagine them with anyone else, if they were it feels unnatural and forced, they just make sense. Wether it’s as lovers or best friends, their love is unbreakable

  • @deejus_e
    @deejus_e Месяц назад +457

    Yea they fruitacious keep scrolling 😤

    • @kevinvescio4778
      @kevinvescio4778 Месяц назад +5

      Yo wsp Deejus I am a subscriber

    • @FlOotch
      @FlOotch Месяц назад +6

      Deejus spotted

    • @Bleached_fusion-uj6vw
      @Bleached_fusion-uj6vw Месяц назад +14

      i got to know HOW gay they are though!

    • @sphynx2691
      @sphynx2691 Месяц назад +21

      GEGE WRITE ONE YAOI CHAPTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!

    • @marymay4723
      @marymay4723 Месяц назад +10

      ​@sphynx2691 for real I would pay ANYTHING for him to make a little fantasy side story "what if they could be together" thing. I would be completed

  • @Bleached_fusion-uj6vw
    @Bleached_fusion-uj6vw Месяц назад +175

    i thought geto x gojo was a meme, then I watched season 2, and the move and completely agreed

    • @SharkSalesman90
      @SharkSalesman90 20 дней назад +3

      Right?? It's like so heavily implied

    • @Unknown-Alice
      @Unknown-Alice 10 дней назад

      Lmao that was also me i was so confused because of Kenjaku TT after being hyerfixated on it for a few month, I can safely say they are atleast heavily implied as long as you just look out for it

  • @xyippee
    @xyippee Месяц назад +337

    16:12 im also pretty sure that japan has a weird relationship with people being gay vs being trans, so it’s “less controversial” to be trans than it is to be gay, strangely enough.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Месяц назад +98

      I've heard that it's more about conforming to a specific standard than just identity
      Like if a trans person aligns themselves with the stereotypical idea of what their gender is they are more likely to be accepted than a gay man that is already not conforming

    • @xyippee
      @xyippee Месяц назад +26

      @@airplanes_aren.t_real oh yeah, this exactly

    • @magicnebula5398
      @magicnebula5398 Месяц назад +2

      How do they feel about non binary or bisexual people than 👽

    • @xyippee
      @xyippee Месяц назад +24

      @@magicnebula5398 i wouldn’t know lol😶 probably badly since i used gay as a synonym for queer in general, and non binary would likely be seen as weird too, since the acceptance of trans people in japan seems to rely on how much they conform to the standard of their gender, and there isnt really a standard to non binary people

    • @burnttwafflez
      @burnttwafflez Месяц назад +11

      what if your trans and gay

  • @ARandomEliatrope
    @ARandomEliatrope Месяц назад +752

    I like how, despite mentioning the opening, you didn't even bother going into the nuance of the visuals and meaning of them, with the fighting fish and such, because that single line was really all you needed to prove it.

    • @semekiizuio
      @semekiizuio Месяц назад +34

      He literally said lets not get into the themes on this video. Theres alot to unpack in the opening but he is touching on it to prove the overall story.

    • @null6406
      @null6406 Месяц назад +5

      @@semekiizuio Okay but like why not isn't that what the whole video is about?

    • @semekiizuio
      @semekiizuio Месяц назад

      @@null6406 no for something that big it needs it own seperate video dedicated to that only. He is using that factor to once again show how gay they were through the _overall_ story. The themes are one factor just as many others he mentioned in which he condensed into one, this video dedicated to all the hints not just the theme songs

    • @theyoungknight.3119
      @theyoungknight.3119 Месяц назад +73

      @@null6406 Sometimes delving too deep into the evidence can stray you away from the point you are trying to make, The video isn’t just about proving if they were gay but rather Jallo was trying to show us the deeper nuance of the implications that them being gay represents.

    • @yulimartorrealba5851
      @yulimartorrealba5851 25 дней назад +1

      ​@@semekiizuio What's in the opening?
      What happens in fish's part?

  • @Unknown-Alice
    @Unknown-Alice Месяц назад +88

    One of my favorite little thing that could maybe just be coincidence is that when you count the days between Geto and Gojo dates of birth, then look for the day in between, its July 7th, also the day of the tanabata festival in Japan or the day of STAR CROSSED LOVERS. Like Im sorry??? Also Geto's birthday being the first day of spring in Japan and their entire relationship being viewed as Gojo's first and last spring of youth, which is another way of saying the time of your first love?! They actually make me feel insane Gege please

    • @leenelazar4619
      @leenelazar4619 27 дней назад +5

      ain't no way that could be a coincidence

    • @roroo
      @roroo 6 дней назад

      STOP I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS
      YOUR BRAIN>>

  • @myownsunshine3570
    @myownsunshine3570 Месяц назад +123

    Finally, someone said it! I'm so fucking happy someone said this outloud in a public platform such as youtube.
    You literally said all the points that me and (some of) my friends have made among ourselves. What I've come to notice is that most people who see Gojo and Geto as queer are queer viewers - I speak as a sapphic woman. My queer friends and I think that Gojo and Geto's romantic feelings were obvious, meanwhile my straight friends and older brother don't really see it (they usually they accept other interpretations, but I'm highly aware that this is something that is not that common among the JJK fandom, my friends are just very open minded). I think queer people grew up looking for representation between the lines, so we are used to this type of situations; while staight people are used to have everything presentend to them on a plate, which makes them less accustomed to subtle romantic plotlines such as this.
    Also, thank you for pointing out the differences between the american/canadian/european and japanese views on lgbtq+ rights. In the West, we tend to forget that our morals and ways of thinking are not universal. It's safest for the mangaka for the characters' sexualities or genders to be vague, if they wish to make a story with a queer subplot - it's not ideal, but it's the reality. Hopefully, in a decade or two, japanese mentality and laws will change and queer people like me won't be called insane for seeing the obvious.
    Great video, I'll check out your other stuff! Maybe you'll gain a new subscriber.

    • @Qkkkqr_
      @Qkkkqr_ Месяц назад +6

      This is off topic but is it wrong for me to think Naruto and Sasuke had something 😭?

    • @Honered_fr
      @Honered_fr Месяц назад +2

      @@Qkkkqr_Bro😭

    • @Qkkkqr_
      @Qkkkqr_ Месяц назад +1

      @@Honered_fr is it wrong tho?? 😭😭

    • @chillychowmein
      @chillychowmein 21 день назад

      lol "someone." i didn't even realize people were still debating it till i saw this video

    • @Unknown-Alice
      @Unknown-Alice 10 дней назад

      @@Qkkkqr_ Without having watched Naruto, from what ive heard theyre kinda queercoded?? I mean idk, I feel its more like queerbait since theyre just like "woops just kidding theyre straight as hell" but im never watching Naruto soo idk

  • @ShockedTaiLung
    @ShockedTaiLung Месяц назад +184

    Finally a REAL JJK analysis!

  • @Sammy117
    @Sammy117 Месяц назад +54

    I also think that Geto having a “family” consisting of individuals who are considered on the “outskirts of the acceptable majority” within a very conservative Japan, says something too (orphans (mininana & negi), a black person, someone who is very likely lgbtq, and a woman sorcerer who probably isn’t that mainstream amongst sorcerers who are predominantly male).

  • @juicegirl2696
    @juicegirl2696 Месяц назад +88

    Japanese speaker here. I liked Ao no Sumika before I knew Jujutsu Kaisen (a lot anime op’s are regular songs to me). I thought it was a love song/breakup song.

  • @ApplePi3.1415
    @ApplePi3.1415 Месяц назад +61

    Also. Fun detail but the KFC break up spot was in shinjuku. SHINJUKU. The gay hub of Tokyo. Known for their gay bars. Hell they arnt even far from one when they broke up.

  • @pepics3069
    @pepics3069 Месяц назад +143

    Now I want a whole jjk ships series from you.

  • @rajmohabe8412
    @rajmohabe8412 Месяц назад +154

    i can’t believe I got recommended a 25 minute long video about if gojo and geto are gay

  • @vianabdullah2837
    @vianabdullah2837 Месяц назад +373

    I've always interpreted them being soulmates, but it's vague enough to be considered up to interpretion. Even Mei Mei and Ui Ui is more explicit lol.

    • @wontonschannel
      @wontonschannel Месяц назад +22

      bit of an understatement.

    • @justinhigginbottom8668
      @justinhigginbottom8668 Месяц назад +11

      Like Zelda and link, besides the first game there relationship is always vague enough to be interpreted

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Месяц назад +56

      It kinda tells a sad story that you can have such inappropriate things shown in most anime popular and manga. A lot of underage (coded or explicit) stuff with adult is still considered fine. Even incestuous things are more allowed. But two confirmed gays sharing a peck on the lips? That is too much.

    • @mira.r
      @mira.r Месяц назад +37

      ​​@@Sienisota right? i see so many jjk fans treating mei and ui's whole dynamic as 'haha mei mei's literally drake someone come get her' but the moment they see anyone interpreting sugusato's relationship as romantic, they lose their absolute sh..t. make it make sense to me istg.

    • @gamer3d147
      @gamer3d147 21 день назад

      I think what’s vague is them being romantic and up to interpretation. But them being soulmates is clear, Gojo denies his abilities, the thing that makes him himself yet he claims his soul knows otherwise

  • @lolkuok6705
    @lolkuok6705 Месяц назад +340

    " Whatever Hakari and Kirara have going on"
    * Shows a panel of Hakari touching Kiraras Butt, like its a regular Tuesday for them both*

    • @brunitop4753
      @brunitop4753 Месяц назад +51

      You don't touch your homies like that?

    • @hairlessgrizzly559
      @hairlessgrizzly559 Месяц назад +89

      Gaygay was cooking when he made the genderqueer character hot as fuck

    • @respectfulevil9022
      @respectfulevil9022 Месяц назад +32

      good for them tbh

    • @evilwizardcat1234
      @evilwizardcat1234 Месяц назад +33

      gege cooked when making kirara and kashimo tbh

    • @jakob9323
      @jakob9323 Месяц назад +21

      ​@@hairlessgrizzly559almost all the characters are hot its not a suprise

  • @kingoftropes922
    @kingoftropes922 Месяц назад +188

    Regardless of how romantic that love they have is, the fact that it is so intense, that it is so defining to both of them is kind of what is more important, at least to me, about their story.
    It's easy to write off anyone who says they are gay as just being fujos obsessed with making any closely involved male characters butt buddies but as this video points out there is more than enough to argue that there's a lot more to it. And it's easy to write off anyone who says they're just friends as just being homophobic but there is a certain level of beauty that exists within two people platonically loving and caring for each other so deeply and I think it's genuinely important to have representation of deep love between two people of the same sex that doesn't just come down to being romantically involved since not all love that is deep has to be romantic. Regardless of how you feel though, there is one undeniable fact in all this.
    *KENJAKU IS A PAN ICON.* #MYGOAT

    • @yothisdogisbehavinggoofyaf5248
      @yothisdogisbehavinggoofyaf5248 Месяц назад +20

      PANJAKU FTW

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 Месяц назад +8

      Facts it’s the same thing where people ship Naruto and sasuke or gon and killua just because they are really close doesn’t necessarily mean they are gay.

    • @jakob9323
      @jakob9323 Месяц назад +1

      Kenjaku is NOT a pan icon (it was for the mission trust)

    • @elliciencias2197
      @elliciencias2197 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@crocoboi7936 the Naruto x Sasuke thing makes a lot of sense, they shared two kisses between each other, Naruto has sacrificed his life more than once for Sasuke and so does Sasuke to him, they've passed trough, done and share more things that with their girlfriends so Naruto x Sasuke is actually a ship that makes forreal sense. Gon x Killua doesn't since both of their characters are children that found comfort on each other and so became friends trough two defining factors gon is strong and so is Killua.

    • @crocoboi7936
      @crocoboi7936 Месяц назад +1

      @@elliciencias2197 first of all the kiss was just a joke it was complete accident also Naruto has been interested In women the whole series. Bro has sexy jutsu. They had a brotherly bond because of asura and Indra

  • @CherryNah
    @CherryNah 27 дней назад +31

    There is 'love' between them. I don't really care about if people interpretation is romantic one, platonic one or whatever: is an intense one and is what hurts about they parting away from each other's lives.

  • @CloudyDaze
    @CloudyDaze Месяц назад +104

    More than any powerscaling video, this is the kind of analysis that keeps me engaged with the series. It gets to the heart as to why this series is so great and also so infuriating. Interpretation. The top of Gojo and Geto needing to be vague by necessity instead of being black and white is undoubtedly great writing. I just wish we didn't have that desire to ask for a straight answer, otherwise conversations would be less painful to have.
    Also the bit about the theme blew my mind. I shared the clip with my friend. Pray for my safety.

    • @TeslatheDestroyer
      @TeslatheDestroyer Месяц назад +3

      nah nah it wouldnt be a straight answer hehehe ghhdhhgghcxtycc

  • @butterfly__382
    @butterfly__382 Месяц назад +158

    I am bisexual and none of my friends or relatives know. I can't tell them because my family is EXTREMELY, and I mean EXTREMELY close-minded. I'm not joking when I say they would disown me and never speak to me again. I could tell my friends, I know for a fact they would support me, but I'm simply too terrified to do so. Their relationship just resonates so deeply with me. It reminds me of how I used to act and feel around a friend of mine. I'm not saying they're gay or bi just because I can relate, though. What I want to say is that to me, it's kind of clear that their relationship goes beyond simple affection between two dear friends. Gojo's yearning and the scene at the airport and the fact that hidden inventory arc is quite literally Gojo dreaming of his blue spring with Geto feels so deeply romantic to me. Not to mention the famous "my six eyes are telling me you're Suguru Geto, but my soul knows otherwise!", and Geto proceeding to try suffocating himself because protecting Gojo is muscle memory for him. Idk probably I'm just yapping but there's something incredibly validating about people acknowledging this. I am not free to love who I want to love and seeing them, even if they are not canon, even if they have never been in a relationship, even if they are only subtly hinted to be romantically involved, it makes me feel seen and understood. That's exactly how I used to act around the person I loved but couldn't do anything more, I couldn't even accept my own feelings. I know for these two it's very different, and I definitely am not a jujutsu sorcerer, but still. This video is beautiful. I'll probably delete this comment later because I am too scared to admit to literally anyone that I am bisexual, but still. If somebody managed to read all of this, I apologize because I know it's probably all over the place.

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад +13

      As a fellow bisexual, I’m glad you have some confidence to express your sexuality (even if it’s hard). And yea I agree with what you said about satosugu, whatever they have is sooo special that they are a Roman Empire of mine

    • @butterfly__382
      @butterfly__382 Месяц назад +6

      ​@kaytionalexa945 Thank you for your reply!! And yeah their relationship is so beautiful, I really hope we'll be able to see them again before the manga ends

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад +3

      @@butterfly__382 saaaaaammeee!! And I hope some point after jjk is over (including the anime being done airing), they can confirm it maybe. 🙏 but yes I need more about them 😌

    • @randomcommenterr
      @randomcommenterr Месяц назад +4

      I aint reading allat but im sorry thats happening to you

    • @butterfly__382
      @butterfly__382 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@randomcommenterrlolll alright thank you anyways tho!!🫶🏻

  • @rajaryan-fe1oy
    @rajaryan-fe1oy Месяц назад +78

    I was going through most of this video with so many thoughts but the way you ended it made me like it so much more, I appreciate the fact that you didn't just call the non - shippers stupid and move on with it slapping them with the hints layered throughout the series, cuz really, it's not anyone's fault for not knowing 24th December is Valentine's Day in Japan or that KFC is a romantic food item (that shit still blows my fucking mind man, Gege you sneaky little....). I think people who've read the story and had the impression that they were best friends don't deserve to have their view forcefully changed, because in the end, they had just as much emotional attachment to their friendship as someone who interpreted otherwise had to their romance, saying things like, that would just make their story better and more tragic (Mother's Basement said that in his OP analysis where I first found out about all this) is a little disingenuous as in my opinion friendship and romance are separate drives and one doesn't have to invalidate the other, having romance in a relationship doesn't automatically make it more, and it kinda sucks to see that implied so many times in stories and social media, even subtly with phrases like, "more than friends" or "just friends", I might just be saying all this as an aromantic who barely experiences one of those feelings but alot of my friends share the same opinion. And same goes for the people wanting them to be gay, I believe both sides can just simply, accept a different opinion and even appreciate the fact that a form of art they love is nuanced enough to be open to interpretation.

    • @semekiizuio
      @semekiizuio Месяц назад +6

      As another aro ace you totally get me. Theres alot of implications sure but nothings been confirmed so it can be left as it is to the person that fits best for them either frienship or more. It is smart not to confirm anything because it would absolutely destroy and chaos to the manga and characters considering how much of an Icon Gojo is and how globally popular JJK is to the point its very dangerous. But still I personally would just like an answer just so that everyone gets their answers and this speculation hinting obviousness gets put to rest. I can imagine after JJK is over people will still wonder.

    • @mira.r
      @mira.r Месяц назад +3

      As someone who isn't aromantic but hasn't experienced any romantic attraction yet, is romance not "more" than friendship? I feel like it genuinely means a relationship with more intimacy, affection, loyalty, and closeness than friendship right? There are some things you could admit to your beloved but not to your closest friend. Though, I suppose you would consider your closest friend something akin to your beloved..?
      Also, I feel like phrases like "more than friends" and the like just refer to romance having more intimacy and stuff than friendship, not that it's more meaningful or superior to it. Sorry for the rambling; I'm genuinely curious about how you would view these types of things. I hope I didn't offend you in any of this 🥹

    • @rajaryan-fe1oy
      @rajaryan-fe1oy Месяц назад +4

      @@mira.r Oh no I'm absolutely not offended, I myself wrote this in curiosity of others' opinions as well. I personally believe (funny coming from me) that even though relationships are generally prefered with the closest friends and have the potential to greatly enchance the bond between two people due to all the time and things they get together, making it a general estimate is still something I wouldn't agree with, I think people are perfecttly capable of making friends they share very close bonds with without any form of intimicy or romance, just like they're capable to getting into potentially bad relationships, and when it comes to things like secrets, my friends pretty much all there is to know about me and I would like to believe it goes both ways :D. With phrases like "just friends", it is possible they don't imply superiority, I obviously don't know the origin of these and shouldn't have implied otherwise. But I stil believe, especially in western moveies, that friendships between people who have the potential to be attracted to each other is often sidelines in favour of their romance, Harry and Hermonie from the Harry Potter movies comes to mind (not to say she should've ended with Ron), and I just personally don't like to see that.

  • @natsuryuu
    @natsuryuu Месяц назад +53

    The theme of them longing for each other but being pushed away by fate is so heart-wrenching. If nothing else, it's a poignant reminder of how ephemeral existence is and how helpless even the strongest can feel when they cannot stop the most important thing from just seeping through their fingers. Fun fact, the street their 'KFC break-up' happens in is called Omoide Yokocho (思い出横丁), which can be translated to 'Memory Lane'. Also, after the latest manga chapters, the other Gojo's image song (Mada Minu Ashita ni by Asian Kung-Fu Generation) feels even more prophetic in how it portrayed the dynamics of these two.

  • @Ray_Fall
    @Ray_Fall 29 дней назад +20

    I think saying they’re just friends or in a gay relationship is equally shallow. I don’t see them having romantic feelings for each other in the common sense, but I don’t see them being just friends either. They’re passionate for each other, in a way that goes beyond just platonic or romantic. They are each other’s soulmates, with some bromance on the side.

  • @swaggiraffelord6309
    @swaggiraffelord6309 Месяц назад +43

    One moment in the show that might relate to this topic is how Gojo's students didn't even know what he truly looked like until after he killed Geto. Like showing that his students didnt know anything really about him as he didnt know what to do with his feelings until after its to late to go back

    • @raec5426
      @raec5426 Месяц назад +6

      Well he did tell Yuta about getting his ID from his best friend and in turn Yuta took it upon himself to want to kill Kenjaku so that Gojo wouldn't kill his best friend again. So Yuta got a peek at that side of Gojo.

  • @Megumi_Fuhiguro.
    @Megumi_Fuhiguro. 23 дня назад +11

    And lets mention that gojo has sore eyes when he wakes up in his chair at the end of the hidden inventory arc.
    So he cried while thinking about his past with geto . Hinting that he misses him

  • @jeiluunaa
    @jeiluunaa Месяц назад +49

    So they loved each other , but they couldn’t tell each other

  • @chosoistryinghisbest
    @chosoistryinghisbest 21 день назад +10

    someone pointed out that gojo has remembered geto for longer than he had actually spent time with him and I fell to my knees. if you think about it, they didn't even spend that much time with each other, they spent maybe 3 years actually together. and gojo spends the next decade remembering geto.
    in season 2, star plasma vessel arc they were in their 2nd year which was 2006. In 2007, the next year Geto starts his murder spree and cult. he never even graduated from jjk high, so they were very much still in school. So from only 2004/2005ish-2007, is how long they *actually* spent together. Gojo then procedes to just have to remember Geto from 2007 to 2017 when he ended up killing Geto.
    If you think about it, it's like how could they even be so sure of who the other is, and why do they keep refering to each other as best friends even when they both haven't even seen the other in a while? I can't take this as platonic because to *ME* there's something more here than just friendship. To me, it's like they're both holding onto a love from days gone by. And its something that only works because they're still hung up on each other. If they weren't they would've just killed each other by now, they wouldn't have waited 10 years waiting.

  • @JoshucaVA
    @JoshucaVA Месяц назад +40

    I like that how Megumi was given a description of pansexuality without the direct statement that he's queer

    • @molester628
      @molester628 Месяц назад

      he isn't, it was only on fandom.

    • @aditisk99
      @aditisk99 12 дней назад

      Where? In this video or in the manga??

    • @molester628
      @molester628 12 дней назад

      @@aditisk99 when todo asked his type, woman or man he said as long as they have a good character.

    • @merdandus
      @merdandus 11 дней назад

      ​@aditisk99 on Wikipedia, and most of the fandom has mutually agreed that he is after the confrontation with Todo

    • @coroikax
      @coroikax 10 дней назад +4

      ​@@aditisk99when todo asks megumi what his type was, he said "someone" instead of just a girl.

  • @vianabdullah2837
    @vianabdullah2837 Месяц назад +81

    13:54 I love the meme of using Eiji Aonuma to represent Eiichiro Oda.

  • @bubsbuben914
    @bubsbuben914 Месяц назад +103

    Something I do not think is discussed about enough is how a lot of people who vehemently say they're not lovers are usually comparing it to their real relationships and are uncomfortable with mlm relationships with characters they like. It's a huge problem in shonen communities where many people feel uncomfortable with gay relationships because they hate the idea that one could perhaps see them as such

    • @mad6383
      @mad6383 Месяц назад +13

      Honestly I don’t think that’s why people don’t really like mlm, yaoi and yuri is very fetishized and a lot of shippers take over said community and fill it with mostly just ships of wlw and mlm, and with how much it is shown in communities and etc. it can get annoying very annoying

    • @miko-ee
      @miko-ee Месяц назад +9

      To put it in words, I had a similar relationship with my best friend. It was a really weird blur line between love and friends.

    • @LittleSparklingStars
      @LittleSparklingStars 21 день назад +2

      That's completely besides the point. I read BL, but I'm not crazy like some people out there. I acknowledge strong platonic relationships exist, and to me Gege was very clear and explicit that their love is a platonic one, not romantic or sexual.

    • @mariem8705
      @mariem8705 5 дней назад

      Or they want them straight for themselves. Do you know how many of the gojo & geto fangirls would lose their minds if they found out both of them are gay?

    • @MONNSTROSITY
      @MONNSTROSITY 4 дня назад

      @@LittleSparklingStarshe modeled gojo and getos relationship after a BL he read that ended in tragedy. Ignoring nuances doesn’t mean the author intended something to be one specific way. They have a sort of romantic relationship whether or not it’s more than platonic. There are many, many things he wrote that point to it being explicitly romantic, but that doesn’t mean it immediately makes them in love with each other. But still…

  • @urikag
    @urikag Месяц назад +487

    What a 2 week break does to a mf

    • @untameablejosh4217
      @untameablejosh4217 Месяц назад +24

      swear to godddddd

    • @macmainemusik5913
      @macmainemusik5913 Месяц назад +23

      this video n comment are damn good observations 😂🍿

    • @Cuffy6
      @Cuffy6 Месяц назад +3

      BRO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 facts lmaooooooooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 naaa I lowkey hate you for this comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @slump6561
      @slump6561 Месяц назад +6

      no cap😭😭

    • @justacoolname69420
      @justacoolname69420 Месяц назад +5

      i mean, it takes 10min to fishnish the last chapter 🤣

  • @malaxiabil1676
    @malaxiabil1676 Месяц назад +18

    "Stay curious" as a last phrase.....danm you asking your whole audience to become at least heterocurious, bold move

  • @slightlydapperdwarf49
    @slightlydapperdwarf49 26 дней назад +13

    I think Gege did what many movie writers do when they want to keep something vague. He wrote some scenes in which it was implied that there was romance between Gojo and Geto, and some where they were just friends. The best part about this tactic is that it always leaves things up to the audiences interpretation. Personally, I think they have a very romanticized friendship, but the question of "are gojo and geto gay?" is entirely up to the viewer.

  • @dr.latency8679
    @dr.latency8679 Месяц назад +186

    Gaygay akutami

  • @ndoie
    @ndoie 9 дней назад +3

    chat is it gay that I would literally sacrifice the entire world for my best friend who I am totally 100% into

  • @ShaudL
    @ShaudL Месяц назад +22

    Something that a lot of people don’t think heavy into is that Sukuna speaks on not needing to be taught what love is; as he already knows. However, he believes he was the wrong one got the lesson. I think this was a meta way to say Gojo needed to understand what love is. He lost it and his understanding of it with Geto. Geto was Gojo’s heart, and he took it with him.

  • @quentinreeb9012
    @quentinreeb9012 Месяц назад +24

    I think the most interesting possibility is that their relationship was neither "friendship" not romantic. The relationship they had was heavily defined by their status of being the "strongest" and the companionship they found in being "equal" at one point. It's like two people being stranded on an island together; even if they come to love one another, first and foremost they needed each other to stay sane. That's my take at least.

  • @Dragon_Fire_2468
    @Dragon_Fire_2468 Месяц назад +41

    Gotta respect Garnet's wedding ❤️💜💙

  • @katfulcoded
    @katfulcoded Месяц назад +26

    The entire segment about theme is unironically some of the best content ive seen in a jjk video
    Also I find it ironic that the theme of interpretation is shown best through who is currently the most looked down on character due to surface level beliefs about him. Actually kinda funny.

  • @AcronisEdits
    @AcronisEdits 14 дней назад +4

    You can’t even say I love you to the homies anymore without it being gay 😭

  • @Anantinfinit
    @Anantinfinit Месяц назад +85

    One of the gojo canon theme song is "shame on me" by Avicii ,where the narrator of the song explains his obsession & toxic love for his lover.
    Both geto & gojo died during Christmas Eve aka the most romantic holiday in japan.
    One of gege recommended bl manga "the night beyond the tricornered window" has the same scene as the kfc break up incident.
    For, some reason gojo really gives me a little bit of the vibe of loras Tyrell from asoiaf ( both loras & gojo put renly & geto on pedestal and nobody can replace their place in their life or heart.)
    Yes, Megumi definitely fits the archetype of ' tragic Greek hero'.

  • @baligong3592
    @baligong3592 Месяц назад +39

    "Domain Expansion: Infinite Backshots" - GayJoe
    "Domain Expansion: Filled Womb Profusion" -GayToe

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад +14

      Gege shouldn’t have somewhat confirmed geto mpreg but at the same time, this is too funny 😭

    • @roroo
      @roroo Месяц назад

      Um

  • @Sienisota
    @Sienisota Месяц назад +31

    I wasn't aware that gayness was seen as a fetish in Japan or other cultural things mentioned, so thanks for info. Personally I think Geto and Gojo weren't lovers, but they might’ve wanted to be, and would have, if things had been diffrent. Perhaps my asexuality is colouring things for me, but I think they had romantic love for each other, just without the physical aspects.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Месяц назад +6

      Not saying physical was out of bounds, just that that it wasn’t the part that was most important to them. That it could've gone that way, if they had lived normal lives in a world where gayness was as accepted as in Western countries. But it wasn't. And they never confessed their love to each other, because the world they lived in.

    • @apersonwhohasnothing
      @apersonwhohasnothing Месяц назад +9

      Honestly, same. I am a sore loser with no friends and because of this I have no idea how close friends are like. So, I personally prefer interpretating them as somewhat romantic or them having soulmate kind of love so that it makes it easier for me to understand them.

    • @LittleSparklingStars
      @LittleSparklingStars 21 день назад

      I think he's blowing it out proportion because there has been gay protagonists in shounen before. Also, the theory of Gege insinuating them being gay falls apart considering they were admiring Waka Inoue's tits on Gojo's flip phone. If you want to subtly insinuate something, you gotta be consistent.
      And OP lyrics, really? Gege had no say in the lyrics of this song, considering it canon is wild to me.
      Only Gege has a say what is truly canon or not, not some songewirter or anime director.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota 20 дней назад +3

      @@LittleSparklingStars Gege has said the anime expands on things he didn't have time to write in the manga, and he has been an active part during the writing of the anime. Junpei's backstory, for example, was something Gege really wanted to flesh out more, and said he was glad he got to do that for the anime.
      This wasn't a case of author selling the rights to some animator. Gege had given out a copy of JJK to his favourite animator even before jjk had hit big, saying that if there ever was going to be an anime, Gege wanted him to be the one who animates it. Gege has been fully involved and approved everything put into the anime.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota 20 дней назад +3

      @@LittleSparklingStars As to tits... If you are *actively* hiding in the closet, you make sure to talk about tits to your buddies so they don't suspect anything. Especially in countries like Japan, where image is everything. Plus looking at an image of a pretty girl while ignoring Riko was a deliberate joke on her expense.
      Canonically, according to the author, Satoru Gojo is afraid of women. Suguru Geto was more desired by ladies because his personality was less abrasive than Gojo's.
      I did say I thought they didn't actually DO anything, right? Because that is how it comes off: As teens who might’ve explored things if their lives weren't in constant danger, and if Japan wasn't judgemental about gays.
      Compare to Naruto and Sasuke for example: Despite having a bit fan service sprinkled in for the yaoi fans (in the manga), it was always obvious they were interested in women and had their own female love interests.
      Gojo's and Geto's relationship seems to include genuine like, love and respect each other. They have never shown any interest in women around them and have no known history of girlfriends, not even Geto, who Canonically is more popular with the ladies.
      We have no confirmation on Gojo's or Geto's sexuality, or lack of thereof. Arguing over individual interpretations is silly: Don't like this type of interpretation? Don't consume content that likes it.

  • @leaxked
    @leaxked 17 дней назад +7

    It doesn't matter if Gojo or Geto are gay or not. At the end of the day, their relationship isn't canonically confirmed as romantic. Everyone is allowed to have their own interpretations, and no one is wrong for viewing it as either romantic or platonic. The beauty of storytelling lies in its ability to resonate differently with each person. Some might see their bond as romantic due to their deep emotional connection, while others see it as a profound platonic bond or friendship. Both perspectives are valid and add richness to the narrative. What truly matters is the essence of their bond and the impact it has on the story.

  • @Jay-kz4td
    @Jay-kz4td Месяц назад +8

    i feel like ppl who are vehemently against the idea of them being gay, and who think the idea of them being gay 'ruins' the show, miiiiiiight have underlying homophobia 😅 it's no prob to view them as platonic, because every reader is entitled to their own interpretation. but i've seen people get angry and aggressive over people calling them gay. like why? 😅

  • @ichi_san
    @ichi_san Месяц назад +8

    I love this video, thank you. No matter how people interpret these two, this video emphasises just how deeply they love and care for each other. I see them in a more romantic lens, but I get that sometimes platonic relationships can be very deep too.
    OMG!!! The multiple christmas eve references gege wrote for them is GENIUS, thank u for sharing this

  • @stef2285
    @stef2285 Месяц назад +17

    Amazing video, and so glad you covered the cultural context!
    I personally believe theyre fruity but like its also so clear why gege would only keep it as subtext and up to interpretation.
    Also i have the same interpretation as you in that they do deeply love each other but were never able to he together.

  • @sophennec4120
    @sophennec4120 Месяц назад +23

    W video, W opinions.
    Happy Pride y'all

  • @motherwar3698
    @motherwar3698 Месяц назад +12

    "his only regret was that he wasn't there to pat him in the back. happy pride month" SHOTS WERE FIRED AND THEY HIT MY HEART. srs tho, this was a nice video

  • @ApplePi3.1415
    @ApplePi3.1415 Месяц назад +7

    Very nicely written. I really liked how you presented the information. And the editing was immaculate

  • @sonicthehomo
    @sonicthehomo Месяц назад +20

    didnt the english va for gojo confirm at the last words gojo said was three words? im pretty sure theres a clip of him saying that at some sort of panel.

    • @diogod2347
      @diogod2347 Месяц назад

      Fuck you Geto
      Also, how would the english VA have a say in that? Not only is he a VA, he's the ENGLISH one.

    • @Navaneeth-hv9sh
      @Navaneeth-hv9sh Месяц назад +1

      When asked gege said these three were said during the movie,i believe

    • @raec5426
      @raec5426 Месяц назад +6

      They said 3 words localized to English

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад +6

      If it helps, the English va for geto (lex lang) said in an interview that the words (although we’re only three words) roughly is : “you will always be my best friend, I love you”.
      Since va’s words aren’t final, it could be up to speculation but both the English and Japanese va’s knew what gojo actually said. I can look for the the interview with a time stamp if you’d like (though I don’t think it’ll be that easy to find)

    • @Navaneeth-hv9sh
      @Navaneeth-hv9sh Месяц назад +3

      @@kaytionalexa945 thank you,I was pretty confused by the comment because I remembered it as gege confirming it was said in the movie and not the whole three words thing

  • @3TMANEISGUTS
    @3TMANEISGUTS Месяц назад +6

    This is quite literally the best analysis of characters I've ever watched!!!💗

  • @KissMarryKiII
    @KissMarryKiII Месяц назад +9

    I’m my opinion, I think it’s they both love each other and see each other as friends. It’s kinda relatable in a way, I was friends with this girl for around 8 years since 3rd grade and it ended around 11th grade. I loved her but I don’t think I had romantic love for her n I could kinda see our relationship in Gojo n Geto. We never usually fought only like playful teasing but one day we had the biggest argument that ended our friendship. I also feel like our relationship had this mystery of did I like her or did I not. There were times where I wondered what would happen if we dated and if I could ever see that, but I’m not sure if I was being a curious queer kid.

    • @LittleSparklingStars
      @LittleSparklingStars 21 день назад +2

      I feel exactly the same about this. People who think they're gay never had a best friend before.

  • @emma_nutella58
    @emma_nutella58 Месяц назад +7

    All I can say is that they both really do love each other whether it he gay or not is up to us

  • @zzxell0
    @zzxell0 Месяц назад +12

    You did the absolute best possible job with this video. Thank you so so so much. For how informative you made this video and how much of the jjk story you brought into consideration. You absolutely could of made a video just abt getogojo and it would of succeeded but you did everything you could to show us WHY there relationship is the way it is and how it goes so much farther, reaching into our own world. I greatly appreciate it. I learned a lot.

  • @tadesman1998
    @tadesman1998 Месяц назад +6

    thank you for this video, i just never have the energy to debate this online but you just explained it so well, thank you so much

  • @rinseyong5202
    @rinseyong5202 Месяц назад +4

    "...and there's only one thing that gets me through it all, and that's knowing that you're here beside me... In a platonic waayyyy????"
    "If it's platonic, it's REALLY intense."

  • @memelordkai6829
    @memelordkai6829 Месяц назад +24

    7:21 is likely incorrect. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think a voice actor said in an interview that the English translation of Gojo’s last words to Geto was a three word phrase. That probably implies it was ‘I love you’.
    The JJK0 light novel also describes it as ‘Such embarrassing words, never said before even when they were students.’ The original Japanese that’s translated as ‘embarrassing’ roughly means ‘makes you self-conscious’.

    • @minismallists
      @minismallists Месяц назад +1

      I thought it was "I love you" cause I read gojo's lips

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад +3

      @@minismallistsplus something that the English va for geto said (although purposely phrased to be vague) is really making me think that’s the case

    • @syakiraalessandra7447
      @syakiraalessandra7447 26 дней назад +3

      ​@@minismallists gege said that the words have been said by gojo before in jjk 0, he never said "I love you"

    • @syakiraalessandra7447
      @syakiraalessandra7447 26 дней назад +1

      It's 3 words with a comma in the middle, like "_ _, _"

    • @syakiraalessandra7447
      @syakiraalessandra7447 26 дней назад +1

      3 worded sentences gojo have said including: "you'll be lonely", "come on in", " just be careful ", "that's about it", " you did it", "those old fools" "how's it going" "we'll meet again" honorary mention: he said "welcome home". The only 2 worded sentence he said, I think his last words to suguru were " welcome home, suguru" or "we'll reunite, right?" Idk though

  • @NecroCrafter
    @NecroCrafter 26 дней назад +4

    I want to add that Akari (Hidden Inventory ending) is Suguru pov. I am so sad since I read the lyrics from both songs, ages ago. Every day I found another sad aspect of their relationship and love, how deeply they care for each other even when they paths were so different. Gojo shaped his life as a teacher to not repeat the story again, give Megumi two friends because he did not wanted he ended alone like him. He took teen Geto's morals to heart and lived by it.
    They love each other maybe in ways they as kids did not understand.
    My heart ache every single time. Gege did in fact wrote a love story, love in so many shapes and layers just like irl.

  • @The--WayPoint
    @The--WayPoint Месяц назад +7

    ive been waiting for a video like this

  • @kylie-rv3zq
    @kylie-rv3zq 21 день назад +5

    summary: yeah

  • @hmmmmmm...3644
    @hmmmmmm...3644 Месяц назад +13

    The video essay I've needed

  • @Samantha-ur5ks
    @Samantha-ur5ks Месяц назад +3

    Dayum good vid incredible job on the writing!

  • @panthekirb7561
    @panthekirb7561 Месяц назад +20

    Some of the things you said in the second half of the video are pure common sense but I'm glad you said them anyway.
    Many people in the US try to gaslight themselves and the rest of the world that they are somehow more phobic than everyone else and that its the "biggest problem in their society" when its not true. Their view is completely backwards. I can't imagine many places in the US where you can get beaten up for being gay without it resulting in it being national news.
    Where I live its just something you have to keep in mind if you want to be openly gay after dark, the odds of you getting beaten up may not be that high but there is always a risk in most of Poland just like it is in most of the world.

    • @semekiizuio
      @semekiizuio Месяц назад +1

      True I have some gay friends who dont like to show to much affection in public spaces, one of them even gets a little afraid. In the West it still not as openly accepted even if we have made progress compared to more conservative traditional countries.

    • @jakob9323
      @jakob9323 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@semekiizuio other than some glances and comments you'd probably be alright. In all honesty its better to show heavy affection in private anyways nobody likes PDA

    • @semekiizuio
      @semekiizuio Месяц назад

      @@jakob9323 well yeah just meant like hand holding one of them gets nervous. So their partner usually drapes their arm around their shoulders and ig that feels ok for them in public. I dont quite know the details I just know they are careful where they show some PDA or none at all. Not that I expect like anything, its something the friend was comfortable talking with us about it.

    • @recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660
      @recordofragnarokisapurehyp6660 Месяц назад

      Yo, greetings from Poland.
      In Poland the biggest chance of getting beaten is on the date of Legia vs Wisła Kraków match. Change my mind.

    • @SeIfishmachines
      @SeIfishmachines 4 дня назад

      USA is most accepting place to be gay in the whole world

  • @HopefullyMusic23
    @HopefullyMusic23 Месяц назад +9

    Happy Pride month fantastic video as always dude!

  • @itsmespidysvessel6077
    @itsmespidysvessel6077 Месяц назад +6

    Dude, thank you for making this video.

  • @Suguru_gyato
    @Suguru_gyato 13 дней назад +3

    Bro why am I crying so much

  • @_j-li7gb
    @_j-li7gb Месяц назад +4

    THEYRE TAKING OVER MY FEED ON EVERY SINGLE APP I CRY OVER THEM AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A DAY

  • @worldofsvt
    @worldofsvt 24 дня назад +4

    craziest situationship ever

  • @ivy_rin2312
    @ivy_rin2312 Месяц назад +3

    One thing is clear that they had something going in between them maybe they liked eachother but not sexually or physically attracted to eachother maybe they were attached to eachother emotionally enough to live their rest of their life together doing everything together hmm...idk if that make sense

  • @mikiziri
    @mikiziri 15 часов назад +1

    Amazing video! Gojo and Geto's relationship really hits me and is probably one of my favorites in mangas, so I'm glad to see videos analyzing it!
    I'd like to add a few more elements🫡
    In addition about some songs' lyrics:
    - Gege did in fact undirectly approved Where our blue is lyrics as he made a comment saying "Gojo warps like Momota Kanoko (Japanese singer) in the opening". - In the ending Akari, the quote "show me your blushing face again" was said to be written from Gojo's POV, and during their last moments together Geto did blush in the manga after Gojo said his last words.
    - In Specialz, "Get lost in me" was stated to be about Geto and Gojo. (It follows with "I can't get drunk on passionate love songs anymore / I love you, baby / I love you, baby"...)
    - The theme songs Gege himself chose for Gojo and Geto are Shame on me by Avicii and Come back home by two door cinema club, which are both break up songs
    - Gege has been vocal about liking BL, made fanart for his favorite ones and even mentioned a BL author as an inspiration for JJK - also, one of the BL he named literally has a panel which is the same as the kfc break up.
    - Geto was inspired by Sensui (from YYH) who has an ambiguous/love relationship with Itsuki, who also share similarities with Gojo (ex: Itsuki has six shadow hands, with reminds me of Gojo's six eyes). Itsuki said "I felt as though I had obtained both a lover and a time bomb at the same time" about Sensui, which in my opinion definitely fits Gojo about Geto (the time bomb being his downfall and him becoming a curse user) There's more about it but this subject could be an essay on its own
    - They literally have tropes like sharing a bike and an umbrella which are typically romantic in manga and anime, used in most shojo. Sharing a bike is literally illegal in Japan and people breaking this law are most likely/only teenage couples, while sharing an umbrella is also perceived as a romantic act. These are the kind of little things that might seem insignificant from a Western pov, but add up to a lot when you take it from a Japanese pov.
    - And well basically in the manga Gojo is pouring his heart saying how miserable and lonely he was without Geto, imagining him smiling among the student he tried to kill, saying he'd only be satisfied with his life if he was by his side, just before Sukuna stated that to love someone is to satisfy them.
    Satosugu is pretty popular in Japan, even among people working on the show like voice actors or animators, yet Gege took the time to disprove Gojo/Shoko and Geto/Shoko which are less popular but not them.. if he didn't want people to ship them I feel like he would stated it🤔
    I could probably talk about them for hours, but I'll spare you and stop here haha
    I'd just conclude by saying that Gege is really into this "show don't tell" thing. And in my opinion, he definitely already showed enough.

  • @ShaKing807
    @ShaKing807 21 день назад

    Fantastic video all around very impressed with the attention to detail and very balanced reading of canon content and obvious implications. Keep up the great work!

  • @chimchim1516
    @chimchim1516 19 дней назад +3

    its so sad how people deny something that has so much hints of and so much implications of. not everything needs to be explicitly stated for you to get the idea. in a conservative country like japan they cant just explicitly announce that two men are gay in a shounen targeted to be a mainstream show. thats why you have to read between the lines to get the full picture. and honestly if you actually analyse their relationship… its so undeniable that they love eachother as more that just bestfriends. it also doesnt help that gege, the writer, openly praising some BL mangas, and has friends who write BL. like gurl take the hints and stop being dense

  • @juliawulf5463
    @juliawulf5463 15 дней назад +3

    I think that this shipping is becoming far too much canon, even though it is becoming fanon. Everyone is allowed to have their own interpretation. Personally, I think Geto and Gojo are more like family, like brothers who love each other, not in the romantic way. This can (from my own experience) be much more profound. When Gojo told Yuta about love, he probably meant Geto. Love can be so much more than just a romantic interaction, and this “typical image”. I see both of them as soulmates who don't have a romantic interest but feel a connection, a feeling that goes deeper. I myself know what this feeling is like and it's something that goes way too deep for you. Friendships that are real genuine friendships stay forever even if you break up, you stay friends and you miss something when they leave, which you noticed with both of them.
    It shows that love is so much more, and much deeper and more complex. I like the way Gege gives you the space to imagine what kind of love they have.
    As I said. I see them as brothers, soul brothers who share a heart that was broken and left a hole in both of them. Soul relationships are so deep that when they end they can leave lasting damage... I'm speaking (unfortunately) from personal experience.
    PS: I also wouldn't ship them if one of them was a girl, I myself have characters that are either gay or pansexual, I like it on BL.
    Personally I just don't see a love relationship between the two =)
    (And sorry for my Grammar)

  • @zev625
    @zev625 Месяц назад +2

    I love you man ur one of my favorite RUclips channels rn

  • @cooler_colors5172
    @cooler_colors5172 Месяц назад +3

    I love how in the JJk ice burg vid you said you wernt gonna stay with one topic for very long yet you've posted like 10 JJK vids since then.

  • @kurtlim7
    @kurtlim7 27 дней назад +4

    they have a doomed romance... that's for sure

  • @Pirat3_
    @Pirat3_ Месяц назад +7

    Bro why did this video make me cry 😭

  • @Jelen-c5q
    @Jelen-c5q 6 дней назад +1

    Are we forgetting the fact that Kenjaku also took backshots for Jin and stayed so long his stitches became scars

  • @LYN3Y_
    @LYN3Y_ Месяц назад +2

    Also I love your explanation of thrm bro, like if you see them as just friends then that's fine but you literally CANNOT deny thst their soulmates, platonic or not, their just like that. HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!!!

  • @caake
    @caake Месяц назад +12

    Awesome cultural context jallo heh… wonder what kind of awesome pony helped you out with that 😏😏

  • @FlOotch
    @FlOotch Месяц назад +13

    Yes next question

    • @kaytionalexa945
      @kaytionalexa945 Месяц назад

      Literally me before watching the video 😭

  • @auspiscious4012
    @auspiscious4012 19 дней назад +2

    You read my mind. I have made full on analysis how JJK special grades tie into each others stories.

  • @wafflelemoir1081
    @wafflelemoir1081 Месяц назад

    I really appreciate this video, it was gritty, real, loving it talked about very real problems. Thank you jallowmoth.