Everything YOU Need To Know About 0-4mm Drop Shoes | Sportitude Running
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Josh from Sportitude Running dives into all things 0-4mm Drop Shoes, why this category exists, who should be looking at these minimal drop shoes and the differences between shoes that share the same heel to toe drop.
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As a running shoe retail employe, the thing that fascinates me the most is that there is no scientific consensus about running shoe drop. The drop is a factor to take in consideration in running shoes, because it affects the flexibility of the shoe, the stack height and ultimately the weight. Furthermore, running shoe companies that prescribes a certain drop for a tempo shoe, a different one for a daily trainer and an another for a racing shoe is just pure marketing in my eyes ; no scientific consensus about the benefits of drop.
I recently started to exercise and run. Started in Brooks with hard arch support ( had a doctor tell me I needed the support due to having flat feet) . After awhile it gave me really bad plantar fasciitis. It lead to Achilles issues. I learned to change my running style to go for more forefoot striking. Went from Brooks to Hokas. Still wearing the arch support I would still have really bad Achilles pain. Went to Altras Via Olympus and the pain is gone. My hip and knee pain is gone too! I think having the wide toe box helps too. The hokas feel extremely narrow now. I can’t wear them anymore
maybe you should have gotten the Hokas in 2E or even 4E. the 2E version is just as wide as the via in the toes and even wider in the midfoot. the 4E is much wider in the toes than ANY shoe Altra currently makes. Altra has gone down hill since they got bought. all their shoes got narrower, taller, stiffer, cheaper materials and bad durability, and most of all very ugly styles and weird design choices and colors. I'd probably suggest the NB more V4 over the bondi. and the Hoka to try would be the Gaviota. which is similar to a bondi but not quite as stiff and with dual density foam, softer in the middle and firmer around the edge of the midsole to control ankle movement. The sidewalls on shoes like the more make a world of difference. Just make sure they actually fit you. You should have at least half an inch from the longest toe to the front of the shoe, and the width is very critical. this is why they come in 2E wide and 4E extra wide. Try them all and see what actually fits. I'd bet you need at least a 2E. I'd also bet your midfoot on the lateral side is hanging off the side of that Altra because that's what I see with basically everyone that tries on any altra these days.
@@user-xf4es7eh9y wow! I really appreciate the detailed response. Now that you say it, my mid foot does hang over a bit! What’s your opinion on Flux? I still want zero drop , wide toe box.
@@grahfkarate1799 I've never tried it. I'm okay with NB low drop models. Really can't notice the difference between a 1 mm and 4 mm in most shoes anyway. The actual shoes always have some variation. Also the geometry makes a huge difference. a lot of the OG altra fans have switched to Topo. I would highly suggest the Topo Magnafly. or if you want an Altra, the escalante 4 is pretty good and doesn't even look bad. It's also wider than most other Altra shoes. If you are willing to try low drop in addition to zero then you will have many other choices. Any real legit running shoe that actually fit you right and in a width like 2E will have plenty of toe room. If your midfoot is hanging off the side, then guess where your pinky toe is? Jammed into the side of the shoe. Altras last just doesn't fit most folks feet properly. it's not the same one they used to use. It's gotten more and more narrow, they changed the shape also.
@@grahfkarate1799 I'll tell you what though. Whitin on Amazon has a model that is honestly just as good as most of those "Flux" like shoe brands and costs $35. i have one and it fits very well. no issues. All I had to do was get a better insole and it's a really solid and decent looking barefoot shoe for under $50. Mine are holding up well after a year. It's one specific model though. I put a sketchers memory foam in it and it's now better than most $100+ barefoot shoes imo.
You seem to be conflating zero drop with thin soles. I’m looking for a zero shoe that also provides foot protection (not as a transition shoe to thin-soled shoes).
There’s zero drop between your heel and your forefoot when you’re not wearing shoes. That’s how we have evolved as a species. Shoes with a heel to forefoot drop and unnatural but we’ve got used to them because that’s what we’ve most all our lives.
Switching to a zero drop shoe was what (after trying numerous suggested remedies) finally enabled me to get rid of my plantar fasciitis. Once you get used to them (not long in my case) they are much more comfortable than shoes with a significant heel to forefoot drop.
This is one scenario where it does actually make sense if you have plantar then yes you should use zero drop shoes. a lot of the other claims are kind bunk but for that specific issue it does 100% make sense. because you want to take pressure off the ball of the foot. The Via Olympus in this video isn't very comfortable but the version 2 is very comfortable. only issue is they made it way uglier and gave it even more of a rocker. Altra is a mess. All of their products come with a lot of compromises. It's honestly hard to suggest them, but there aint many other choices on the market right now for shoes that are zero drop but also have cushioning like a regular running shoe. However, I'd suggest stuff like NB over Altra for most folks. Just make sure they actually fit in length and width. NB has many models with very low drop such as the More V4 shown in this video. But that thing is even clunkier than the Altra shown in the video. It's an absolute boat. but otherwise a really good shoe. If you're gonna get an altra, I'd suggest trying the Esclante 4, Torin likely in wide which means either an ugly light gray or ugly blue. or the Via olympus 2 which is the new version of the boat that's in this video. All the other models have too many issues and or have narrow lasts. Altra isn't what it used to be. Think of those 3 models as a spectrum from minimal to maximal and figure out what you need. For an issue like plantar I'd suggest the Torin above the other 2. but the torin is narrower than the other 2 and only comes in a wide size in 2 ugly colors. So there really is no winning. Altra has also been plagued by serious durability issues for a while now so don't expect them to last very long. and it's not like they're cheap. Via Olympus 2 after tax will cost you nearly $180. The cheapest one will cost you about $140 after tax. Is it worth it? Probably not but it doesn't hurt to try it once.
What about posture imbalance. If they have some has a tendency to land on toes like someone Anterior pelvic tilt, forward and lower cross sydrome. Wouldn't 0 drop shoe be what they need? What shoe would you recommend for someone with that issue?
Very interesting thanks
What are the 4mm drop shoes models? Did I miss that? I used Nike frees in the last with 4mm drop and ran with forefoot strikes , felt good to me .
Iv been curious about a more cushioned shoe
seems like that would be relevant info huh? just be aware that what these manufacturers claim isn't always accurate.
Saucony Peregrines are a decent 4mm shoe if you run trails.
The Saucony is Kinvara. and they keep making it worse and worse. The NB is a More V4. Really a great shoe but extremely clunky. NB has many other models with low drop as well that aren't so bulky on the feet. The Hoka is a Bondi 8. Hoka also has other models with low drop. The other brand is Altra and they have gone downhill massively since being bought and sold. There is also Topo but they will be harder to find. You're welcome.