Fun fact: if you fight Jin with only the MC, and your equipped Persona has no weaknesses, Jin will keep using EX Flash Grenade on you, as it’s an almighty attack. So you’d be hearing him say “Here’s a special treat just for you” over and over again.
@@Samoss64 True that, although Minato/Makoto's death is currently permanent Minato/Makoto: Died due to being the Great Seal Yu: Died to Izanami's Thousand Curses Akira/Ren (Joker): Died to a gunshot on the head by Akechi (cognition)
@@Samoss64 kind of, Yaldabaoth fused the real world with mementos and then erased the Phantom Thieves from everyone's cognitions, and since they are in the cognitive world, if they don't exist in the people's cognitions they just don't exist, but their bodies are still there, as they were sent to the Velvet Room, and Joker specifically remained fully alive thanks to Lavenza and Igor
P3F/P3P Jin: "Noo, don't cover your weaknesses! Then I can't do anything to you! You're too scared to fight me?! P3R Jin: "No weaknesses, huh? Then block _this_ overhead!"
Yeah, I love how he doesn’t use an evoker to summon his Persona, but does so for an ultimate attack with the prototype evoker because it’s powerful but unstable, much like his mental state.
Something I've always found just a bit underwhelming is the fact that Strega is constantly shown or advertised as being a trio. Yet we never get to actually fight all three of them at once
I think it's actually kinda meaningful. Because even though they're all on the same side, they're still apart, with no real connections between them. They don't value each other as friends.
IMO, Portable missed an amazing opportunity to have exactly that in its Vision Quest challenge--all three members of Strega together, all at LV 99 with stats to match (99 because the Hanged Man rematch is LV 95). Vision Quest already distorts the party's memories of the prior Full Moon fights so as to make the Shadows much stronger (Priestess is LV 60 and each subsequent door is 5 levels higher).
Takaya is throwing shade about the Kirijo Group's darkness, a foreshadowing of Arena, which the remnants of the research, dragged another generation/faction of Persona users into battle again. At least director Wada is consistent in making Reload connect to the other mainlines and spin-offs/follow up narratives. So far only the P5 generation Persona team/faction managed to settle the problems and root causes before another generation/faction could be potentially dragged into battle.
@@egbertmilton4003I mean, the summoning of Nyx is caused by people losing the will to live, and Persona's answer to why we should live has always been the bonds we form with others. I'm not saying Takaya doesn't have a point, the Kirijo group did some truly awful shit to them (and even though it wasn't her fault specifically maybe someone else should've spoken up instead of Mitsuru), but awful shit happened to everyone here, and they were able to get through, not by isolating themselves from the general population as Strega did, but by finding a new reason to live through others.
@@Vegas242Entirely hypothetically, could they not isolate themselves? They are impliedly missing missing - hence cannot even assimilate themselves back into society without lots of formalities - and they are escapees from a multimillionaire's human trafficking venture. Wouldn't you assume that Granddaddy Kirijo's descendants - that to this day keep frantically sweeping all of their family's crimes under the rug - would just...kill you, if they were to learn you were still alive...? Also, no offense, but Having Your Not-even-girlfriend Of Three Months Die or Sorta Not Getting Along With Your Parents and getting trafficked as a child and livelong homelessness, while terminally ill are incomparable, frankly, lmao.
That's why Sees completely avoid any firearms, even though the police offer practically their entire arsenal. Imagine that in a moment of tension someone desperately needs to summon their Persona, and in the quick confusion someone grabs a gun that someone accidentally dropped on the floor mistaking it for an evoker.
I really like Strega in this game. The character development and back story that was added was done well. Plus meeting with Takaya outside of battles. That plus the updates to the Strega boss fights, definitely makes them feel more of a worthwhile rival group to SEES, despite being hopelessly outmatched.
After all this time I just realized Takayas appearance is literally Jesus Christ. Malnourished, his hair is identical albeit a different color and his head accessory is like a halo similarly to the thorn halo Jesus wore on his head. He is even shirtless as Jesus was portrayed before getting crucified.
Jin focus on Crit/Weakness to your oppoent or if S.E.E.S team covered their weakness, He will use an EX flashgrenade to burn 200 DMG all of them While Takaya focus on Beatdown damage and drains their SP Mana. P.S. are their Level is the same as the previous game but buff their stats?
I think Takaya has normal HP, however, his HP to capped to stop at thresholds, this is so that the conversation, and that his theragy will kick off. as with most difficult fights, having equipment or protag with Insta-Heal makes it much easier.
I hope in the future we have a villain that has access to multiple personas like the mc. Maybe he was going down the right path like the mc and just changed but got to keep his personas. Idk it would be a cool concept. Or maybe he’s able to go along the path of the fool make connections but he just chooses the antihero route idk.
Seems Jin and Takaya's HP has been buffed so previously Jin's HP in original is 5000 and his lvl is 74 then in this version its 8000 HP with His level around 80 while Takaya is 7000 HP with Level 75 and now this version Level 81 par with Nyx and HP is around 15000.
why is atlus so terrified of making human bosses hard? seriously, no double turns? no knockdown resistance? no pierce? they couldn't even give us a fight against all 3 of strega AGAIN. for the love of nyx this remake is dissapointing.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Calm down? Bro asked normal question. Strega talk about themselves as team, yet they never fight as one. Jin never does any finisher, he always baton pass to Takaya, plus Chidori is never with them. They didnt even bother making them all out attack or finisher like for Twins. Same goes for the club with static NPCs, hell even SEGA atleast reuses assets correctly for Yakuza.
Funny is how Takaya talks how his team are like family yet he never gives them chance to do follow up on crit or attempts to save Chidori in any way, so much for the team.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction strega did none of what I said in the first fight. and hard mode doesn't make any difference unles they get something like that. they still get murdered by turn economy and resistances. like akechi being a joke on every difficulty. why even comment that? :/
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz I don't know, I just feel like when people talk about difficulty they just want dark souls levels of dying over and over for something to be "hard" instead of it actually meaning applying good strategy and resources. Yeah Theurgies are kinda busted but without them they do got hands.
Fun fact: if you fight Jin with only the MC, and your equipped Persona has no weaknesses, Jin will keep using EX Flash Grenade on you, as it’s an almighty attack. So you’d be hearing him say “Here’s a special treat just for you” over and over again.
Well at least he won't spam infuriate and kill himself
It also has a chance to Confuse you too
You don't need to be solo actually. You can craft accessories that block the weaknesses of the party members
@@AmeNGO75890%, at that
I love how bro gets so annoyed he goes "wha what the? You coward!" after he scans and finds you have no weakness.
"Here's a special treat just for you."
"Death to all fools."
Truly the quotes of all time from these two
Technically, all the fools have died at least once
@@Samoss64 True that, although Minato/Makoto's death is currently permanent
Minato/Makoto: Died due to being the Great Seal
Yu: Died to Izanami's Thousand Curses
Akira/Ren (Joker): Died to a gunshot on the head by Akechi (cognition)
@axceljulio5747 joker also got erased by yaldabaoth. With everyone dying while screaming, I'm guessing that they did die
@@Samoss64 kind of, Yaldabaoth fused the real world with mementos and then erased the Phantom Thieves from everyone's cognitions, and since they are in the cognitive world, if they don't exist in the people's cognitions they just don't exist, but their bodies are still there, as they were sent to the Velvet Room, and Joker specifically remained fully alive thanks to Lavenza and Igor
P3F/P3P Jin: "Noo, don't cover your weaknesses! Then I can't do anything to you! You're too scared to fight me?!
P3R Jin: "No weaknesses, huh? Then block _this_ overhead!"
I love how he actually uses the prototype evoker he mentions earlier in the game
It’s such a good way to justify him having Theurgy.
Yeah, I love how he doesn’t use an evoker to summon his Persona, but does so for an ultimate attack with the prototype evoker because it’s powerful but unstable, much like his mental state.
Something I've always found just a bit underwhelming is the fact that Strega is constantly shown or advertised as being a trio. Yet we never get to actually fight all three of them at once
I hope maybe in like P5r DLC, there could be a challenge boss against all three of them
Not to mention, isn't Chidori's boss fight completely scripted?
@@caffeinatedhypnos8048yeah. Even if you dont hit her once she will stop fighting after like 6 partu turns
I think it's actually kinda meaningful. Because even though they're all on the same side, they're still apart, with no real connections between them. They don't value each other as friends.
IMO, Portable missed an amazing opportunity to have exactly that in its Vision Quest challenge--all three members of Strega together, all at LV 99 with stats to match (99 because the Hanged Man rematch is LV 95).
Vision Quest already distorts the party's memories of the prior Full Moon fights so as to make the Shadows much stronger (Priestess is LV 60 and each subsequent door is 5 levels higher).
Mitsuru throwing out money like The queen she is
Is a canon event
Throw money at the problem to make it disappear
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction AJAJSJJDJISHS THATS THE THING MITSURU WOULD SAY WHILE STEPPING ON THEM
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction❤
At least she didn't throw 356 936 yen like in Persona 5.
@@Yammatti There are many choice words about Mitsuru stepping on people...I won't say em.
Jin raided some military depot or something, that guy threw more grenades than most countries make in a year lol
I mean with the Dark Hour he absolutely could.
Or he's American.
22:00 I absolutely love this dialogue from Takaya, for once the villian gets to call them out on their bs lol
Yeah like where does this bint think that friendship would have solved any of this?
Takaya is throwing shade about the Kirijo Group's darkness, a foreshadowing of Arena, which the remnants of the research, dragged another generation/faction of Persona users into battle again. At least director Wada is consistent in making Reload connect to the other mainlines and spin-offs/follow up narratives. So far only the P5 generation Persona team/faction managed to settle the problems and root causes before another generation/faction could be potentially dragged into battle.
@@egbertmilton4003I mean, the summoning of Nyx is caused by people losing the will to live, and Persona's answer to why we should live has always been the bonds we form with others.
I'm not saying Takaya doesn't have a point, the Kirijo group did some truly awful shit to them (and even though it wasn't her fault specifically maybe someone else should've spoken up instead of Mitsuru), but awful shit happened to everyone here, and they were able to get through, not by isolating themselves from the general population as Strega did, but by finding a new reason to live through others.
@@Vegas242Entirely hypothetically, could they not isolate themselves? They are impliedly missing missing - hence cannot even assimilate themselves back into society without lots of formalities - and they are escapees from a multimillionaire's human trafficking venture. Wouldn't you assume that Granddaddy Kirijo's descendants - that to this day keep frantically sweeping all of their family's crimes under the rug - would just...kill you, if they were to learn you were still alive...? Also, no offense, but Having Your Not-even-girlfriend Of Three Months Die or Sorta Not Getting Along With Your Parents and getting trafficked as a child and livelong homelessness, while terminally ill are incomparable, frankly, lmao.
@@vickdoom So much for the Kirijo's redemption...
Imagine Takaya pulling out the wrong gun.
That's why Sees completely avoid any firearms, even though the police offer practically their entire arsenal. Imagine that in a moment of tension someone desperately needs to summon their Persona, and in the quick confusion someone grabs a gun that someone accidentally dropped on the floor mistaking it for an evoker.
I really like Strega in this game. The character development and back story that was added was done well. Plus meeting with Takaya outside of battles. That plus the updates to the Strega boss fights, definitely makes them feel more of a worthwhile rival group to SEES, despite being hopelessly outmatched.
i love how they clearly spent a lot of time and effort on Takaya in general while Jin is still Jin
The fact that Jin "heals" himself when he's nearly defeated makes him a lot formidable
and ironically, Jin is tougher than Takaya. He is literally stronger by just being himself
I think they both are better presented in this game, both in and out of battle
Takaya's 2nd fight would've probably been harder if he started using his theurgy at like, maybe 40% HP
i remember shitting myself when he used it... and then remembering he had 1hp
I’m just so happy they are like a challenge now.
Hot take: Jin's VA got the biggest glow up out of everyone in the cast.
I agree.
Loving Chris Hackney’s Boston accent for him
He did dimitri before, i love him
His old VA, Grant George also played Shinji & Kurosawa in OG Persona 3. In Reload, he plays Mitsuru’s father.
I love that they got the Dub VA for Ghiaccio for this guy. Whenever I look at Jin, I just start to hear Ghiaccio's "Death in Venezia" rant.
Jin boss fight starts at 2:46
Takaya boss fight starts at 22:54
After all this time I just realized Takayas appearance is literally Jesus Christ.
Malnourished, his hair is identical albeit a different color and his head accessory is like a halo similarly to the thorn halo Jesus wore on his head. He is even shirtless as Jesus was portrayed before getting crucified.
Why do you think we call him Revolver Jesus?
29:32 Captain Torres: Did someone said salvation?
The Witness: He shall be one of my disciples.
@@varnix1006 What are you referencing here? I'm referencing Ace Combat 7 (DLC enemy if any of yall are curious).
@@ryanp7546what am I hearing about next? Crisp white sheets?
@@arieltimeshrine8137 Yes. Takaya is gonna talk about how he lost the only girl with crisp white sheets.
I cannot lie takaya little red thing flowing in the wind looks nice
Dang they actually made Strega formidable in the remake!
Jin with his infinite supply of grenades.
The fact Takaya actually performs Theurgy when he's low on health
@@axceljulio5747Shame it doesn’t 100% inflict fear
@@egbertmilton4003 drains everyones sp though
one last lil F you from Takaya
JIN YOU WENT OUT LIKE A REAL ONE
Jin focus on Crit/Weakness to your oppoent or if S.E.E.S team covered their weakness, He will use an EX flashgrenade to burn 200 DMG all of them
While Takaya focus on Beatdown damage and drains their SP Mana.
P.S. are their Level is the same as the previous game but buff their stats?
I think Takaya has normal HP, however, his HP to capped to stop at thresholds, this is so that the conversation, and that his theragy will kick off.
as with most difficult fights, having equipment or protag with Insta-Heal makes it much easier.
@@Clear1Jin is also like this
Fact : If use all the guys in the Takaya fight they all have a special quotes in the beggining of the fight
23:37 her first theuegy would have been more useful-
Is almighty considered magic
@@jadebayoba7073it is indeed
Yes. Almighty is considered magic man💀
@@jorgexd8385 oh
When I fought these guys in here I was surprised that they stood a chance, revolver Jesus in the original was getting harassed by me 😂
I hope in the future we have a villain that has access to multiple personas like the mc. Maybe he was going down the right path like the mc and just changed but got to keep his personas. Idk it would be a cool concept. Or maybe he’s able to go along the path of the fool make connections but he just chooses the antihero route idk.
That’s just Akechi, he has both Robin Hood and Loki
Why am I crying in the club right now (I wish the Strega had more screentime as a trio)
Exploding myself to protect my mentally ill boyfriend.
Seems Jin and Takaya's HP has been buffed so previously Jin's HP in original is 5000 and his lvl is 74 then in this version its 8000 HP with His level around 80 while Takaya is 7000 HP with Level 75 and now this version Level 81 par with Nyx and HP is around 15000.
Fire grenade, Shock grenade, flash grenade, hmmm something missing , whereis the freeze grenade and the other Wind version of his grenade?
29:27 Mitsuru, you got a leak, or a bootlegger!!!
Jesus christ this dude is allergic to using mediarama or something
I was yelling at him to heal the party! 😂
Takaya was a more interesting and engaging boss than Nyx in this game which is extremely dissapointing
Koromaru immune to Dark instakill
Crackhead Jesus: "Do it again"
These gays, they're trying to murder me.
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i finally got around to finishing the game, I told Jin to screw off with Armageddon and he TANKED IT. yes it's intentional but that's funny as hell
23:25 ohaI SISter!
XD
Im all for living in the moment but if that moments everything dying to an eldric abomonation i think ill pass
This is hard to watch, why can't you just use mediarahan to heal your party???
I was thinking the exact same thing. Dude is being so reckless
why is atlus so terrified of making human bosses hard?
seriously, no double turns? no knockdown resistance? no pierce?
they couldn't even give us a fight against all 3 of strega AGAIN.
for the love of nyx this remake is dissapointing.
He's playing on normal and Strega did all of that in their first fight, calm down.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction Calm down? Bro asked normal question. Strega talk about themselves as team, yet they never fight as one. Jin never does any finisher, he always baton pass to Takaya, plus Chidori is never with them. They didnt even bother making them all out attack or finisher like for Twins.
Same goes for the club with static NPCs, hell even SEGA atleast reuses assets correctly for Yakuza.
Funny is how Takaya talks how his team are like family yet he never gives them chance to do follow up on crit or attempts to save Chidori in any way, so much for the team.
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction strega did none of what I said in the first fight.
and hard mode doesn't make any difference unles they get something like that. they still get murdered by turn economy and resistances. like akechi being a joke on every difficulty.
why even comment that? :/
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz I don't know, I just feel like when people talk about difficulty they just want dark souls levels of dying over and over for something to be "hard" instead of it actually meaning applying good strategy and resources. Yeah Theurgies are kinda busted but without them they do got hands.