I was a uncredited sound editor on this picture, having only ever previously worked on BBC radio, it was a long hard arduous summer, I worked for no fee, and the children were unruly. But priceless memories.
Well, the film you worked on is great. You should be proud. I saw this film on videotape when I was 12 (and read the novel in the same year). This is one of the best film adaptations of a classic novel in my opinion.
This documentary is making me cry. Seeing these men pour their hearts out to each other, sharing how much they all meant to each other... it is so moving.
I saw this documentary upon its original release. I will always remember the impact it had on me as a 25 year old. I read the book at school and have reread it as an adult. It still packs one hell of a punch.
Tom Gaman seems so have such a kind, beautiful soul. Same with James Aubrey, may he rest in peace. The scene of Simon's dead body floating in the water, together with the ethereal boys' choir music, has always been for me the most devastating moment in the film.
Yup. Tom and James are my favorite two actors in this film. They both did brilliant jobs as Simon and Ralph, who are not coincidentally my favorite two characters (and William Golding clearly *intended* us to love those two boys the most).
I felt like I was there💙 It's like they are all the same that they were 35 years ago. It's so sad about James Aubrey (Ralph) who passed away in 2010 at age 62.🥀😢. I wish we could see them all again💙. I wonder where they all are now in 2020. It was really cool to watch, thankyou for uploading it❤️
i read the book before i saw this movie, and i loved the book, but after watching the 1963 film it felt more as if that was a documentary and the book was written afterwards. Simon is my favorite character of the story; I would argue he was the wise one, but he had a hard time saying things in a way others would understand.
I recall seeing it as a teenager and being horrified at the treatment of Piggy. I've pondered this over the years. Brilliant book, brilliant movie, all the better for the passage of time....
@@robynstephens7076 Did you get that the Simon character was an allegory for Simon of the Bible? As in, the way he assisted the very small children of the group (more in the book than the film)?
Man I was expecting Roger's actor to be here then I realized he's not...it can't be! It would have been fun to see him interacting with Piggy's actor, anyways thank you so much for this!
Tom Gaman's very distinctive face both then and after makes him the most easily identifyable after all those years, to me. It's great to hear him connecting the past with the present with the casting.
I studied this book in class 9 for Eng literature. The part of Simon talking to the pig,s head and the scene of the parachuter is still hunting me till now. The murder scenes too. I have to say I loved the story and watching the movie after all these years ..it is just a wow!!!
I really enjoyed this, however I do think that Simon (who played the twin 'Eric') brought up a great point about being abandoned all over again after the documentary was over, and I wish the director and other crew members would have acknowledged the courage it would have taken for him to admit that. As children, i'm sure it felt so amazing to be plucked from wherever you were from to be in this film, and when filming ended, I would imagine they all felt some degrees of isolation and abandonment. The director says he wanted to discover what happened to the children who became men, but it seems like he just wants to discover if filming gave them nightmares, as opposed to responding to any criticism they have of how they were treated, before or after filming. It made the whole exercise of bringing them back seem a little redundant? Why go to the trouble and egg on confessions, only to totally turn away from them? Thank you for uploading though, it was a great watch!
It's incredible to see the boys all grown up, especially Ralph! I read the book in 10th grade and had to do a project on it. I thought the story was too dark, but I had a liking to one of the boys in the novel and movie, Ralph. I liked his leadership qualities. If I had to rescue one of the boys on the island, I would pick Ralph to take back to civilization.
I love how James Aubrey and Tom Chapin got to kind of be friends for this reunion. I was always really drawn to their friendship and growing up I had a crush on both of them, so it was like noticing the same way friendship impacted me in someone else and two people I guess I kind of cared about because the characters resonated with me that much.
I saw this classic many years ago, never forgot the story and wondered what happened to the "boys" as adults. This documentary answered those questions! How Brooks managed to film such an unforgettable film without any professional actors is truly remarkable. It's nice to know that their lives were pretty much successful. Does anyone see some similarities in the story, and what is happening today? I mean the disregard for rules needed for a law and order society? Thanks for sharing!
Excellent reunion, the Lord of the Flies story is so powerful and sad it changed many lives and will live forever to maybe help us heal and grow past our human tendencies. Thank you all for your art.
This documentary is amazing. The book I thought was pretty frightening. The movie was good too. It showed that kids are not as innocent as they appear. Only thing is that the guy who played Roger didn't show up. I thought his character was pretty cool. I'll never forget the smile on his face after he killed piggy. Roger was a true sadist.
ClassicTributes Damn that is sad. He did a good job as Roger though I felt they didn't develop his character enough. Still he portrayed evil convincingly. I heard somewhere he used to like throwing lizards in electric fans on set.
Many thanks for uploading this. It was a BBC2 documentary. I had it on VHS but when I went back to watch it again a couple of years ago, It was taped over after the first 10 minutes. I've been hoping someone would upload it ever since. It's great to be able to keep it in digital format. Much appreciated.
Wow this was so nice. I hadn’t seen the film since school but I watched it tonight on tcm and it still makes me emotional. This documentary is so touching, thank you so much for uploading.
I saw the film on TV in 1979 and recognized the Aguadilla shots as an obscure beach near my former Coast Guard duty station....today known as Survival Beach. I live in Aguadilla to this day and kayaked to the scene of Simon and Piggy's demise just yesterday May 15th, 2021.
Thank you so much for uploading this documentary! I saw it when it came out and it never left me. Watching it again now, has given me so much more, both to think about and inside myself as a whole.
A true classic! But I also wonder what kind of trauma a brought to the boys when I first saw the movie but now watching the reunion it seems like everybody turned out to be all right. And piggies accent was so heavy back then that when I watch the movie it reminding me of pippi longstocking with their characters. You guys did a phenomenal job and it's always going to be a true classic thank you so much.
It's interesting that the actor playing Piggy would later have to answer exam questions on his character for his O Levels. His speech about Camberley which was only in the film was brilliant.
Yes that's tragic, the young James Aubrey is my image of "Ralph". I first read "Lord of the flies" with 12 and was deeply impressed - "Ralph" being a real hero and role model for me. I never lost this respect: While his position as chief was gradually undermined by his ambitious and ruthless opponent Jack, Ralph stayed fair and decent to the very end. You can't demand more of people. While I've no "hate" at all for Tom Chapin, the actor of Jack; someone had to play him, and he did a really good job. I think the book is an excellent allegory how a dictatorship may develop. The majority was drawn to Jack by a mixture of both fascination and intimidation, Roger representing the oppressive "secret police" to create fear.
I was also deeply moved by this segment. Such a poignant reminder that all these people are human beings with often intense feelings. I loved James' portrayal of Ralph so much ... and now, seeing him talk about his difficult childhood, I have infinitely more respect for what a fantastic job he did. As another post said, Ralph for me will always be the kid in this movie. I loved him and Simon the most (which is exactly what Golding intended). And I love those two actors the most as well. Just brilliant performances by both.
Thank you for the upload! I have been searching this for years and finally I got to watch it. So glad to see them well and happy to get to meet each other (especially Mr. Edwards, he is hilarious :D), even though my heart goes to James Aubrey in particular. Rest in peace, sir, you were such a wonderful Ralph. Once again, thank you! You're amazing! :)
I knew, full well, which character I was, going to Public & High school in the 60s. This Docu brings "Closure"-a Rare & necessary thing in all aspects of Life. RIP "Piggy", Simon...the "Jacks" & "Rogers" & "Ralphs" of this Planet, HAVEN'T learnt a thing, still... 🐷🌴🔥🐚
Wonderful! I just watched the original and I wondered what happened to the main characters. I was just about to Google it and here it is. Had to read the book in high school and still have a copy. Thank you!
This is GREAT! In the states in the circa 80s & 90s. Lord of the Flies was required reading near the end of Grammar/Middle School to early High School (Freshman Year). I had seen the film and taped on the old VCR not knowing we'd be reading the book in one of my Freshman English classes when I 1st started high school. I was very fond of the film, and didn't mention that I had it at home on VHS. I did very well that quarter while reading the book out loud, & answering the teachers questions. At the end of the book, we had to do a report and I aced it naturally. Finally.. Our teacher mentioned there was a film version of the book, but it was quite rare and she said that she must've called a dozen video stores in the area trying to hunt it down. I raised my hand and said "if I were to find it? Would she be willing to let us watch the film in class?" She said of course. Now the 1990 version had yet to be realeased on hime video, but was in the process. I brought in the 63 black and white orignal the next day to a shocked teacher & class. I was never a very good student, and that was the ONLY time I ever received an A+ on a report card. It's obviously a good memory from high school.👍
Interesting documentary because I watched this film on Criterion and was really curious about this cast. The director seems to use this opportunity to relieve his guilty conscience, which he immediately does when the men tell him they’re fine. The only problem: the actor who could’ve potentially suffered greatest from his role isn’t even here. It’s telling that Roger who played Roger has apparently never had anything to do with this film. The director makes it no secret that the kid had behavioral issues that prompted him put Roger in that role, so even if Roger wasn’t a bad kid, he was certainly told he was. He had the same name as the character, so could he separate the two at that young of an age? I’m really curious as to how he turned out after this experiment.
Interesting point. The only online mention of a Roger Elwin points to Lord of the Flies. If he survived into adulthood and was alive at the time this filmed, he chose not to participate. Maybe it really was a bad experience for him, or maybe he just wasn’t alive.
3:33 OH MY FUCKING DAYS PIGGY'S CORPSE 😵😵😵 That clip wasn't in the movie but it's still disturbing as fuck. The movie does show Piggy's body being collected by the sea but then this scene here must have been an unused extension of it. There was probably blood there too that you can't see in Black and White footage, so that could explain why the boys even the hunters all look so perturbed. Except Roger, if you watch the movie he grins at what he did
Want my children to watch... they don't like doing chores right after we eat. Following rules keep order. Or is it our innate nature to be savages? Look at how our food winds up in our stores. Maybe we are savages. Their privileged upbringing didn't spare them their innate nature from surfacing.... again... are we just savages in suits and ties? I read this book at 13. My mom recommended it. Then my English teacher had the class read it. I was grateful to have a mother that was smart enough to love reading and taught my siblings and I to start thinking.
I definitely recognize James aubrey I think he has had good success as an adult actor. of course its very hard being a jobbing actor theres no stability. sadly he died in 2010 from cancer aged 63. RIP
Goes to show how perfectly he cast the film. This is simultaneously wonderful and hard to watch. Brook is such an observer of life. He is right "the small boy is still in them" - give me a child by the time they are 7 and I will give you the man.
I also am fascinated by the moment that James Audrey says he has had his successes and failures as an artist and "dont we all" - the camera cuts to Brook. He has never failed, his career has always been considered the best of the best. James is not the kind of actor he would cast now, in his work, so its quite a sad moment as any thought that this reconnection would lead to further opportunity with Brook is gone in that moment. I am probably reading too much in it. To be a jobbing actor in the UK is a great thing and something to be celebrated, even if you are not a household name. Good on him. He is incredibly good in the film so its no wonder he went on to have that career.
I found this really moving when I watched it at the time - James Aubrey came across as deeply affected by his childhood. Haunted even. He died 14 years later at the age of only 62 from pancreatitis. Requiescat In Pace.
They should remake this film….with an ‘older’ feeling to the film-set in the ‘WWII’ times….because by the looks of the 1st film, those were the times they were in, & maybe make a series of it….showing (like in Lost), how their individual lives were back at school & with their parents/teachers & peers….. So that there is more of a Relationship with them as people & the lives that were left behind & what they face now…. They make new films of old films all the time, why not this….& this is a Classic that could be detailingly improved… (The 1990’s version seems too tame….& not at all realistic in the beginning)…..
Only Ralph has the courage to face the truth after Simon's death. The greatness of Peter Brook was to get the children enter in the spirit of the film/novel to the point that the film proceeds by itself, life has taken precedence on fiction !
Just found this in the Wikipedia article about the film: ... cuts necessitated that new audio transitions and some dialog changes be dubbed into the film more than a year after shooting. The voice of James Aubrey, who played Ralph, had dropped three octaves and was electronically manipulated to better approximate his earlier voice, but it is still significantly different.
I Just heard Paul Di Rienzo say on his radio show, that there was a true story behind this book but the kids in the real story after being abandoned, build a self- made egalitarian society. Different parental influences I guess. I know no details of the original story but its worth looking it up.
How come they (the boys), not know each others names in this 1st version-how come they don’t know who each other are….??? Didn’t they all go to school together? Was it one plane or many…? The pictures in the skies aren’t that clear…with all the planes… Was it one class or a whole school??? I guess I will have to hear from the book.
I just watched the full film hirer on youtube and this comes on after it. i have only watched this film twice in my live, 1st time when I was 10yo and tonight some 30+ years later just as I remember it so powerful it is Is like a documentary from so called educated enlightened reverting back to Savages given half a chance, have we really progressed from cave man days?
I think anyone who is an advocate of defunding the police, should watch this movie or read Lord of the Flies to see what happens when people are left to their own ideas, feelings and notions of what to do without any checks, balances, or authority to keep order, reason, and calm.
Ralph was calm, Piggy was reason, Jack order - fascists, like US police in fact - and the entire cause and background of the story was war in the rest of the world. The boys were being evacuated in the first place and they were rescued by a warship
Thanks for watching guys, don’t forget to share! ❤️
.hindi. "Lord Of The Flies - full movie"..
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I was a uncredited sound editor on this picture, having only ever previously worked on BBC radio, it was a long hard arduous summer, I worked for no fee, and the children were unruly. But priceless memories.
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Well, the film you worked on is great. You should be proud. I saw this film on videotape when I was 12 (and read the novel in the same year). This is one of the best film adaptations of a classic novel in my opinion.
You created something remarkable. What a stunning thing to be part of, as hard as it was.
Your the GOAT Luke
The film is an absolute masterpiece
R.I.P. Peter Brook ! He passed away two days ago... Thank you for doing this faithful adaptation of this book !
that's so sad :( I hope that might meet piggys actor before he passes away
This documentary is making me cry. Seeing these men pour their hearts out to each other, sharing how much they all meant to each other... it is so moving.
Very heartwarming❤
@@chasehedges6775i agree loved the film
@@michaelmcginley7930 Indeed. One of the best films ever made and a masterpiece
Thanks for putting this on here. My dad and some of the other cast members really appreciate it! My dad played Jack in the film.
@@scottchapin6196 i absolutely adored the way he played jack omg
Tom Gaman Is so sweet. Simon will forever have my heart.
This was such an amazing movie. How great to hold a reunion, I bet everyone loved it.
I saw this documentary upon its original release. I will always remember the impact it had on me as a 25 year old. I read the book at school and have reread it as an adult. It still packs one hell of a punch.
Tom Gaman seems so have such a kind, beautiful soul. Same with James Aubrey, may he rest in peace. The scene of Simon's dead body floating in the water, together with the ethereal boys' choir music, has always been for me the most devastating moment in the film.
I watched this film when I was 10yo and Simons death is what you said
Reinforces the Christ motif
Yup. Tom and James are my favorite two actors in this film. They both did brilliant jobs as Simon and Ralph, who are not coincidentally my favorite two characters (and William Golding clearly *intended* us to love those two boys the most).
He is very nice. He came to my house when I was a kid. It was great to meet him.
I felt like I was there💙 It's like they are all the same that they were 35 years ago. It's so sad about James Aubrey (Ralph) who passed away in 2010 at age 62.🥀😢. I wish we could see them all again💙. I wonder where they all are now in 2020. It was really cool to watch, thankyou for uploading it❤️
i read the book before i saw this movie, and i loved the book, but after watching the 1963 film it felt more as if that was a documentary and the book was written afterwards. Simon is my favorite character of the story; I would argue he was the wise one, but he had a hard time saying things in a way others would understand.
I recall seeing it as a teenager and being horrified at the treatment of Piggy. I've pondered this over the years. Brilliant book, brilliant movie, all the better for the passage of time....
I 1st watched this when I was 10yo, Simons death, to me, was the most tragic and haunting in the way it was filmed.
@@robynstephens7076 Did you get that the Simon character was an allegory for Simon of the Bible? As in, the way he assisted the very small children of the group (more in the book than the film)?
Every group of amateurs needs a Piggy. They cannot function otherwise.
Man I was expecting Roger's actor to be here then I realized he's not...it can't be! It would have been fun to see him interacting with Piggy's actor, anyways thank you so much for this!
Renee Arden no problem!
Tom Gaman's very distinctive face both then and after makes him the most easily identifyable after all those years, to me.
It's great to hear him connecting the past with the present with the casting.
I studied this book in class 9 for Eng literature. The part of Simon talking to the pig,s head and the scene of the parachuter is still hunting me till now. The murder scenes too. I have to say I loved the story and watching the movie after all these years ..it is just a wow!!!
I really enjoyed this, however I do think that Simon (who played the twin 'Eric') brought up a great point about being abandoned all over again after the documentary was over, and I wish the director and other crew members would have acknowledged the courage it would have taken for him to admit that. As children, i'm sure it felt so amazing to be plucked from wherever you were from to be in this film, and when filming ended, I would imagine they all felt some degrees of isolation and abandonment. The director says he wanted to discover what happened to the children who became men, but it seems like he just wants to discover if filming gave them nightmares, as opposed to responding to any criticism they have of how they were treated, before or after filming. It made the whole exercise of bringing them back seem a little redundant? Why go to the trouble and egg on confessions, only to totally turn away from them? Thank you for uploading though, it was a great watch!
It's incredible to see the boys all grown up, especially Ralph! I read the book in 10th grade and had to do a project on it. I thought the story was too dark, but I had a liking to one of the boys in the novel and movie, Ralph. I liked his leadership qualities. If I had to rescue one of the boys on the island, I would pick Ralph to take back to civilization.
It's great to see them greet each other with such happiness and good humour just like long lost friends.
Thank you for posting this film. The VHS was wearing out! @ClassicTributes
I love how James Aubrey and Tom Chapin got to kind of be friends for this reunion. I was always really drawn to their friendship and growing up I had a crush on both of them, so it was like noticing the same way friendship impacted me in someone else and two people I guess I kind of cared about because the characters resonated with me that much.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
Tom Chapin / Jack's actor seems so charismatic
He is! He is my father and a nice person.
@@scottchapin6196 Small world! All the best to you both!
I saw this classic many years ago, never forgot the story and wondered what happened to the "boys" as adults. This documentary answered those questions! How Brooks managed to film such an unforgettable film without any professional actors is truly remarkable. It's nice to know that their lives were pretty much successful. Does anyone see some similarities in the story, and what is happening today? I mean the disregard for rules needed for a law and order society? Thanks for sharing!
Excellent reunion, the Lord of the Flies story is so powerful and sad it changed many lives and will live forever to maybe help us heal and grow past our human tendencies. Thank you all for your art.
This documentary is amazing. The book I thought was pretty frightening. The movie was good too. It showed that kids are not as innocent as they appear.
Only thing is that the guy who played Roger didn't show up. I thought his character was pretty cool. I'll never forget the smile on his face after he killed piggy. Roger was a true sadist.
Danny Leo Roger has apparently died
ClassicTributes oh wow. How do you know?
Danny Leo extensive research and accounts
ClassicTributes Damn that is sad. He did a good job as Roger though I felt they didn't develop his character enough. Still he portrayed evil convincingly. I heard somewhere he used to like throwing lizards in electric fans on set.
Danny Leo Oh yes. He loved throwing them into fires and destroying lots of things
I remember seeing this documentary on TV many years ago. Fascinating viewing. Thank you so much for posting.
Many thanks for uploading this. It was a BBC2 documentary. I had it on VHS but when I went back to watch it again a couple of years ago, It was taped over after the first 10 minutes. I've been hoping someone would upload it ever since. It's great to be able to keep it in digital format. Much appreciated.
Wow this was so nice. I hadn’t seen the film since school but I watched it tonight on tcm and it still makes me emotional. This documentary is so touching, thank you so much for uploading.
I was disappointed that this wasn't included as an extra on the dvd release. Glad to finally see it again. Thanks for posting.
I saw the film on TV in 1979 and recognized the Aguadilla shots as an obscure beach near my former Coast Guard duty station....today known as Survival Beach. I live in Aguadilla to this day and kayaked to the scene of Simon and Piggy's demise just yesterday May 15th, 2021.
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH
Thank you so much for uploading this documentary! I saw it when it came out and it never left me. Watching it again now, has given me so much more, both to think about and inside myself as a whole.
A true classic! But I also wonder what kind of trauma a brought to the boys when I first saw the movie but now watching the reunion it seems like everybody turned out to be all right. And piggies accent was so heavy back then that when I watch the movie it reminding me of pippi longstocking with their characters. You guys did a phenomenal job and it's always going to be a true classic thank you so much.
Great to see this again. Thank you! The making of the '63 film of Lord of the Flies is as interesting as the book itself.
I have just been watching the DVD of movie. Brilliantly filmed movie on such a low budget. Still the best. A lot of food for thought
It's interesting that the actor playing Piggy would later have to answer exam questions on his character for his O Levels.
His speech about Camberley which was only in the film was brilliant.
He said it was the true story of how Camberly got it's name. But was it true, or fiction made up for the film? IDK.
@@MikeGreenwood51 True apparently.
how cool to go back to island beach etc where you made a movie
aaahh, finally the full version! amazing to see the change of everyone! thanks for uploading!
Thanks for uploading this! I have always been intrigued to see it but could never find it. It was a very interesting watch!
24:16 legit made me cry. I love him so much RIP
Sophie Reed I love him so much too 💔💔💔
I didn't know that. That's sad
Yes that's tragic, the young James Aubrey is my image of "Ralph". I first read "Lord of the flies" with 12 and was deeply impressed - "Ralph" being a real hero and role model for me. I never lost this respect: While his position as chief was gradually undermined by his ambitious and ruthless opponent Jack, Ralph stayed fair and decent to the very end. You can't demand more of people. While I've no "hate" at all for Tom Chapin, the actor of Jack; someone had to play him, and he did a really good job.
I think the book is an excellent allegory how a dictatorship may develop. The majority was drawn to Jack by a mixture of both fascination and intimidation, Roger representing the oppressive "secret police" to create fear.
Me too, my eyes are wet when i hear him telling this.
I was also deeply moved by this segment. Such a poignant reminder that all these people are human beings with often intense feelings. I loved James' portrayal of Ralph so much ... and now, seeing him talk about his difficult childhood, I have infinitely more respect for what a fantastic job he did. As another post said, Ralph for me will always be the kid in this movie. I loved him and Simon the most (which is exactly what Golding intended). And I love those two actors the most as well. Just brilliant performances by both.
Thank you so much for sharing. This is incredibly moving.
I spent 1-2 months with Tom Chapin in a professional manner ~2008 and I can guarantee he is both a gentlemen AND a scholar
Thanks for the kind words. My dad is still alive and we watched this together a few days ago.
You produced a masterpiece
A brilliant analogy of The Tory Party
Thank you for the upload!
I have been searching this for years and finally I got to watch it.
So glad to see them well and happy to get to meet each other (especially Mr. Edwards, he is hilarious :D), even though my heart goes to James Aubrey in particular. Rest in peace, sir, you were such a wonderful Ralph.
Once again, thank you! You're amazing! :)
I love this book and movie
W0W a,great picture !!!! Been watching this since,childhood !!!!
Bart Terrell thanks for watching! 😊
Great film. Fantastic performances and actors
Great documentary.
This was so awesome to finally watch - thank you so much.
The scene where Piggie gets killed, the book version is more graphic.
And I was that piggy. This book made me fucking loathe human beings, and I still do. Fucking disgusting creatures we are. Vile.
Tysm for this, it's awesome, you're awesome
RIP james Aubrey Ralph
Such a wonderful post!
Great upload.
Thank you.
I knew, full well, which character I was, going to Public & High school in the 60s. This Docu brings "Closure"-a Rare & necessary thing in all aspects of Life. RIP "Piggy", Simon...the "Jacks" & "Rogers" & "Ralphs" of this Planet, HAVEN'T learnt a thing, still...
🐷🌴🔥🐚
The Dude that played Jack looks like Liam Neeson
cruiserweight190 haha!
HE DOES
Wonderful! I just watched the original and I wondered what happened to the main characters. I was just about to Google it and here it is. Had to read the book in high school and still have a copy. Thank you!
tahuti51 please share the video thanks for watching! 😊😊
Any idea why Roger Elwin wasn't there? It's a shame, really. He did an excellent job portraying Roger
He was at this time dead
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING THIS! I really enjoyed watching this.
This is GREAT! In the states in the circa 80s & 90s. Lord of the Flies was required reading near the end of Grammar/Middle School to early High School (Freshman Year). I had seen the film and taped on the old VCR not knowing we'd be reading the book in one of my Freshman English classes when I 1st started high school. I was very fond of the film, and didn't mention that I had it at home on VHS. I did very well that quarter while reading the book out loud, & answering the teachers questions. At the end of the book, we had to do a report and I aced it naturally. Finally.. Our teacher mentioned there was a film version of the book, but it was quite rare and she said that she must've called a dozen video stores in the area trying to hunt it down. I raised my hand and said "if I were to find it? Would she be willing to let us watch the film in class?" She said of course. Now the 1990 version had yet to be realeased on hime video, but was in the process. I brought in the 63 black and white orignal the next day to a shocked teacher & class. I was never a very good student, and that was the ONLY time I ever received an A+ on a report card. It's obviously a good memory from high school.👍
is roger elwin featured in this video, if so could you reply with a time stamp please
Thank you!!!!
Interesting documentary because I watched this film on Criterion and was really curious about this cast. The director seems to use this opportunity to relieve his guilty conscience, which he immediately does when the men tell him they’re fine. The only problem: the actor who could’ve potentially suffered greatest from his role isn’t even here.
It’s telling that Roger who played Roger has apparently never had anything to do with this film. The director makes it no secret that the kid had behavioral issues that prompted him put Roger in that role, so even if Roger wasn’t a bad kid, he was certainly told he was. He had the same name as the character, so could he separate the two at that young of an age? I’m really curious as to how he turned out after this experiment.
Also, the man who played Ralph seemed very depressed here. It’s sad to watch.
Interesting point. The only online mention of a Roger Elwin points to Lord of the Flies. If he survived into adulthood and was alive at the time this filmed, he chose not to participate. Maybe it really was a bad experience for him, or maybe he just wasn’t alive.
Raymond Leppard, the composer of the music score, died in Indianapolis on 22 October at the age of 92.
3:33 OH MY FUCKING DAYS PIGGY'S CORPSE 😵😵😵 That clip wasn't in the movie but it's still disturbing as fuck. The movie does show Piggy's body being collected by the sea but then this scene here must have been an unused extension of it. There was probably blood there too that you can't see in Black and White footage, so that could explain why the boys even the hunters all look so perturbed. Except Roger, if you watch the movie he grins at what he did
Want my children to watch... they don't like doing chores right after we eat. Following rules keep order. Or is it our innate nature to be savages? Look at how our food winds up in our stores. Maybe we are savages. Their privileged upbringing didn't spare them their innate nature from surfacing.... again... are we just savages in suits and ties? I read this book at 13. My mom recommended it. Then my English teacher had the class read it. I was grateful to have a mother that was smart enough to love reading and taught my siblings and I to start thinking.
Have you ever watched "Forbidden Planet?'
Monsters from the Id
I doubt the cast of the 1990 movie would have a reunion like this.
Though I could be wrong.
Crazy how they changed.
Interesting and touching documentary, thank you for posting!
I definitely recognize James aubrey I think he has had good success as an adult actor. of course its very hard being a jobbing actor theres no stability. sadly he died in 2010 from cancer aged 63. RIP
May he RIP
Goes to show how perfectly he cast the film. This is simultaneously wonderful and hard to watch. Brook is such an observer of life. He is right "the small boy is still in them" - give me a child by the time they are 7 and I will give you the man.
I also am fascinated by the moment that James Audrey says he has had his successes and failures as an artist and "dont we all" - the camera cuts to Brook. He has never failed, his career has always been considered the best of the best. James is not the kind of actor he would cast now, in his work, so its quite a sad moment as any thought that this reconnection would lead to further opportunity with Brook is gone in that moment. I am probably reading too much in it. To be a jobbing actor in the UK is a great thing and something to be celebrated, even if you are not a household name. Good on him. He is incredibly good in the film so its no wonder he went on to have that career.
I found this really moving when I watched it at the time - James Aubrey came across as deeply affected by his childhood. Haunted even. He died 14 years later at the age of only 62 from pancreatitis. Requiescat In Pace.
Tom Gaman's like a benevolent otherworldly entity
GREAT DOCUMENTARY ! THURSDAY 9/7/23 SEPTEMBER 7, 2023
Profound. Thank you. MB
Amazing!!!👍
Something like this would never happen today
I think the sound is off.
i thought it was just me 😅
They should remake this film….with an ‘older’ feeling to the film-set in the ‘WWII’ times….because by the looks of the 1st film, those were the times they were in, & maybe make a series of it….showing (like in Lost), how their individual lives were back at school & with their parents/teachers & peers…..
So that there is more of a Relationship with them as people & the lives that were left behind & what they face now….
They make new films of old films all the time, why not this….& this is a Classic that could be detailingly improved…
(The 1990’s version seems too tame….& not at all realistic in the beginning)…..
Only Ralph has the courage to face the truth after Simon's death. The greatness of Peter Brook was to get the children enter in the spirit of the film/novel to the point that the film proceeds by itself, life has taken precedence on fiction !
I wish there was a full length version of the kyrie. Great movie! Also, where was this filmed?
Jackie Cronin Vieques, Puerto Rico
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I wonder if they’d be open to doing a follow up to this now
This is amazing
In between Ralphs scenes i think the actors voice was dropping octives. Anyone else noticed?
Yes, you're right. I noticed it as well. They got it all filmed in the nick of time, I'd say. 😉
Just found this in the Wikipedia article about the film: ... cuts necessitated that new audio transitions and some dialog changes be dubbed into the film more than a year after shooting. The voice of James Aubrey, who played Ralph, had dropped three octaves and was electronically manipulated to better approximate his earlier voice, but it is still significantly different.
where did you get this version from where was it downloaded from.
my friends dad is one of the cast members
I Just heard Paul Di Rienzo say on his radio show, that there was a true story behind this book but the kids in the real story after being abandoned, build a self- made egalitarian society. Different parental influences I guess. I know no details of the original story but its worth looking it up.
At the end, one of the boys touches the navy officer who pats him on the head. Which boy is it?
How come they (the boys), not know each others names in this 1st version-how come they don’t know who each other are….??? Didn’t they all go to school together? Was it one plane or many…? The pictures in the skies aren’t that clear…with all the planes…
Was it one class or a whole school???
I guess I will have to hear from the book.
This is awesome ✌️️
So the actors who played Simon and Jack were actually American actors?
Yes they are both American and live there. But Jack (Tom Chapin) went to boarding school in England when he was younger and is half English.
One of the Surtees brothers went on to help people, the other decided to befriend John Selwyn Gummer :-/
I just watched the full film hirer on youtube and this comes on after it.
i have only watched this film twice in my live, 1st time when I was 10yo and tonight some 30+ years later
just as I remember it so powerful it is
Is like a documentary from so called educated enlightened reverting back to Savages given half a chance, have we really progressed from cave man days?
Which of the boys fed live lizards into the blades of a rotating fan?
Who was the most disturbed out of all the boys? This is for an assignment, please help.
The extra credit assignment? I'm doing it too.
@@ScofieldStudios Did you ever get the answer
@@Mooclay I don't remember
I think anyone who is an advocate of defunding the police, should watch this movie or read Lord of the Flies to see what happens when people are left to their own ideas, feelings and notions of what to do without any checks, balances, or authority to keep order, reason, and calm.
Ralph was calm, Piggy was reason, Jack order - fascists, like US police in fact - and the entire cause and background of the story was war in the rest of the world. The boys were being evacuated in the first place and they were rescued by a warship
Maybe the director should have said "male children," because when you say children you mean both boys and girls!
Reminds me of the first time I saw King Kong and they added it back in 1960s
6:18 --> Jalph :))
And deliverance, Burt Reynolds,
This is absolutely magical ...Kyrie Eleison :-)
The best song!