I'm an English teacher here in the middle of the amazon and almost all my students play free fire. The thing about this game is that it literally runs in almost every cellphone, it doesn't require you to have "the best cellphone" or even a good one for that matter, it's accessible to people from all ages and incomes, that's the appeal that it has.
its weird to consider since here in Canada there is no more '' bad cellphone '' you can even buy at the store since a long time. Glad India is catching up soon we are all gonna be online!
Yeah, games in the "west" went from being creative to becoming streamlined high value products aimed at people with rigs to play them since prettier means better to our primitive monkey brains. Had say Microsoft made a dirt cheap home console with fun but ultimately cheap games, they'd make a fortune. As is shown with Free Fire.
Same here with Indonesia, the ease of acces and also money is the main reason, it's so simple actually. Since not many people have the power to play advance game, it's also harder for them to play with each other if one guy have advance tech while the other can't keep up, they have no choice but to also play the same game just to be with their friends. Remeber that trend is everything in social these days, so if you don't keep up with friends, you also left behind by them.
I mean I know exactly how it feels. I am Japanese so my gaming experience is vastly different from westerner. What's really funny about this is, my deep iceberg gaming was western gaming from my perspective. Most notably PC gaming in the late 90s. Majority of Japanese gamer never have heard of Doom, Hexen, Jack the Rabbit, Mechwarrior, Age of Empire, and so on. I was hooked on these games in Japan but it was very hard to come by.
you a westernaboo lmao, jokes aside yea thats crazy, i have a friend who is really into japanese games, and he always talks about how hard it is finding translations and getting actual copies of htem
As a girl gamer I'd love for this to be true but I can't help but think this statistic might not be what it seems. It's well known that to circumvent child gaming laws in China, a lot of teenagers will use the credentials of a family member to play online games. I can't help but think a lot of those girls playing Honor of Kings are just moms letting their kids use the mother's info to play the game passed the regulated limit.
@@MadafakinRio That's fair. In my experience the handful I knew, even dated one, were fairly attractive to me. At the end of the day, it's really just personal opinion. Asmon was just trying to make a self deprecating joke out of that statement.
@@ManOfParody that’s the side effect/defence mechanism from the modern warfare Xbox 360 ass abuse they receive on LoL for being a woman😂 fr though I remember going round to a friend from college’s place and her playing LoL and her saying that she had to use voice changer so her team would listen to her and not be dicks lmao
@@ManOfParody LMFAO listen man, it ain't just the girls who are insane, you've seen some of the shit talking that happens in league. A lot of dudes who play are also batshit crazy.
The Warrior of Darkness comparison is on point. I'm brazilian, i live in Brazil, the country is literally a bizarro version of the U.S, kinda like a parody only slightly more grim.
We even have our own scuffed Trump as president, but the sad thing is, Brazil has such an amazing culture but even some brazilians don't seem to care for it and go suck off the U.S.
I want more Eastern European RPGs, they seem to have a deep understanding of the emotions repressed in people and know how to use sorrow to bring them out. Metro series and the Pathologic series are two examples of games that affected my emotions for months and made me actively hunt for more eastern European games.
You have to realize gaming consoles are more rare in these parts of the world but everyone has a cellphone. This is essentially their Gameboy, it's a revolution almost. Imagine if we had these "bad" graphics on our purple see-through Gameboy. Shit would have blown our minds.
You have half the reason. The real reason is that the phone is connected online. This is what makes Free Fire 'the game' for young kids in developing countries. Its not the mobility aspect (Gameboy). Its the online aspect. Its like CS 1.6/Source in 2022 at their fingertips on any moderately powered cellphone. The reason the game is so big, is because the largest audience with time to play games is teenagers, and teenagers in Asia dont own PCs or consoles in general. To play on a PC, they usually go to internet cafes. Also, TGT has it backwards: Asia is looking to the US to make games, not vice versa. Free Fire is a fortnite/PUBG clone, Kings is like League/DOTA, etc. While the US may want to tap into Asian markets (GL with that, I think its not gonna work out too well), the reality is that the Asian gaming giants havent done anything differently than the US gaming giants, scandals and all. If the US took anything, it was the high levels of micro transactions present in Asian games (due to the insane volume of players). This isnt to say US media isnt sometimes influenced by foreign culture/media. But foreign media is EXTREMELY influenced by Western culture. Its a highly addictive culture where even todays lesser freedoms are still amazingly light years ahead of the freedoms one has in China, Thailand, India, etc.
Happy to see you finally talked about your brazillian audience Asmon! I'm brazillian and I watch your streams/videos daily. I wish you all the best man, thanks for everything!
I think Asmon was on to something when he mentioned that a lot of women play games on their phones. Let's face it not a lot of women own or use a gaming pc where most of the so called male dominated audience games are found. Now that mobile games have made similar games to a lot of PC games become much more all encompassing in terms of medium and audience. The skewed difference in the demographic is evening out. I mean just look at mobile MOBA games like Wild Rift or Lol Mobile and Mobile Legends where a good chunk of the player base are women.
Animal crossing got banned in china because people were using the drawing tool to draw stuff that was memeing on the covid situation in china, and free Hong Kong stuff. So people were trying to make money from reselling animal crossing. But they can't name it "animal crossing" because it's banned, so they named the listing " buff man who pick up tree brenches" it was funny as fuck
@Josh even more importantly is wild rift is actually a pretty recent release, so it would be interesting to see if the gender gap of moba players starts shrinking as wild rift gets older
its also a cultural thing too, women dont really get gaming devices like men do, so growing up men are usually exposed to gaming at a younger age where women are exposed to other things like makeup, etc.
@@Lexipumpkin783 lol parents buy what kids wants, stop making up dumb reasons. It's not cultural. Women arent interested in gaming and devices in general as much as men for biology.
I even improve my english watching your stream and videos. Especially my "listening". Thanks to you I own a schoolarship. Cheers from Brazil we love u.
Watching streamers was a huge breakthrough in my understanding of English too. I've been able to watch random videos in English thanks to Shroud and ChocoTaco, and now it's basically my second language. Keep doing that, it's incredibly useful, in addition to being extremely entertaining.
A big thing recently as well (not sure if MatPat mentions, only 14:11 in), India has banned all Chinese developed apps as well as PUBG. Market opportunities for non-Tencent titles are huge.
Reminds me of 2018 and 2017 where everyone expected Fortnite to be the most tweeted game of the year but it was Fate/Grand Order, a game most people in the west don't know but made billions in Japan.
THE thing about FREE FIRE is that it;s played by literally everyone in second and third world countries. Its sys req is low and yet still offers good content so it pulled in a very large audience of people who have low spec devices. The character they get in game, for example, Cristiano Ronaldo shows it;s type audience. THE GAME itself is done well, compared to high spec requirements like COD and FORTNITE.
Brazilian viewer here! I'm relatively new to your channel (compared to your loyal WoW partners lol), I've been watching for maybe two or three years, and I really enjoy your content, specially the reactions and more serious discussion videos. I began with your Dark Souls reactions and by now I lost count of how many times I watched your Concordia and channel 5 videos haha I have never played WoW, I don't even like the game, but even your videos talking about it are really fun and informative to me, and the same goes for your final fantasy content. Even Zepla got a sub and a few views from me, due to your interactions with her and Rich. I can see a lot of reasons for latin america people to enjoy your content, and here in Brazil WoW had kind of a boom last year due to some well known streamers leaving league of legends and getting into the game. Ps. Frostpunk is AMAZING, you should give it a try off-stream to see if you enjoy this type of game. We have recently received the news about Frostpunk 2 and I'm really excited about it.
I think the difference between the western and asian female playercount is the culture. In western countries gamers have always been seen as anti-social nerds. In asian countries these esports teams are fucking rockstars.
Yeah, after all in korea as much as a meme it is, some dads really won't approve of their daughter's bf if they don't play starcraft. And LoL there is so popular that guys actually impress girls if they play Jin well.
another difference is propaganda and lies in media and no accountability when providing statistics for western outlets. They can claim 100% female audience u will never fucking know the truth.
@@iruga7379 They aren't per say racist, but they are very blunt. It's more of a tough love thing, you need to earn their respect so that they won't generalize you (China).
@@iruga7379 We're more open about being rude, let's put it that way. Anything can be used as a weapon if we see you as an outsider (not just in terms of race), nationality, gender, or just general facts like height, weight etc. But on the flip side, if we see you as “us”, we don't care about any of the above. We might still talk behind your back though, IF you did things/ behave in ways that we deem to be "outland-ish”. But that has less to do with your identity, it's just an anchor for the sake of putting you in a “not us” box. If anything, we tend to be xenophobic.
@@iruga7379 I mean it's especially true in China were the government likes to push bad things onto differnt groups so some years everyone will hate french people and some years they will really hate the US and if you tell people you are from those locations when they are getting hate you can be in a really bad place you might even just get beat up and thrown in prison if you're at the wrong place at the wrong time. Then because there are so few tourists allowed into China and china is big so even fewer go to a lot of the smaller countries and lets say you're black it will be really weird for them so everyone will stare at you even if they aren't being racist it's still really offputting. Then even outside of China a lot of the asian countries have a tendency to being nationalistic which I think to a certain extent isn't bad but sometimes it leads to an attitude that looks down on anything outside of you're country which I think is a problem but I think the west also has the opposite problem where they don't know history or anything about other countries and then there's people that think white males are the worst thing to happen in history and will go to the point of being "non racist" that they discriminate against everyone who isn't a minority to make being a minority be something special which also is wrong as well.
9:05 when I started playing WoW, the monthly salary in Brazil was 350 reais, working 40 hours a week, and the game I paid in dollars and cost me 50 reais a month
@@FerreiraDeAssis nunca joguei em lan house, meu pc era branco/amarelo com a internet discada 56kbps, bons tempos de WoW Brasil, TBC até parar no Legion
I can think many online games that were super massive in Asia and was essentially nothing in the west: talesrunner (an mmorpg running game), raycity (race car mmorpg), Pangya (golf mmorpg), point blank (fps), and special force (fps).
Duuude, drop HS and try out LoR! HS players are leaving in droves for LoR. It's not a p2w cash sink like HS, and there's the added benefit of not supporting Bliz... lol
@@alexbrennan9928 Small-minded flippant comment. LoR treats it's playerbase better than HS, period. That's it really... Fuck-all to do with geopolitics.
As a brazilian, most of us tend to cherish/idolize low-spec games with shitty graphics because we're poor af. It's hard to play newer games when we got 200$ minimum wage while having to pay 70$ for a AAA game (or 950$ on a PS5, taxes are abusive here). But for some reason, phones are actually not that expensive here, so most of us can access decent mobile hardware without paying 5mo worth of salary. That's why most of these old-ass shooters with and MMOs with bad graphics will always be popular here (Like CSGO, Crossfire, league, free fire and such).
I think something that might be interesting to look at is the age group of these games. The ease of access for mobile games has made them popular among younger audiences. In fact, I know the player base for "Honor of Kings" has a large percentage of them being kids. The future of gaming is always on the platform that the current younger generations are playing on. 40 years ago, it was consol and people in that age group got attached to it and when they grew up, they call themselves console gamers. 30 years ago, it was PC. Now, as Asmon said, the ease of access makes every kid a mobile gamer and that's just what they will be attached to and play in the years to come. It's sad that Mobile games will be the "future of gaming" and take most of a publisher's resources. Diablo Immortal for example, despite getting all the lashes in the "matured gaming community" is actually getting a lot of hype in China and Southeast Asian countries. You bet it will blow up there when it gets released and make 10 times the money of all previous diablo games combined in like a year.
@@cattysplat I mean I think boomers wouldn't hate mobile games if they weren't pretty much all gacha games that requires you to pay hundreds of dollars to actually play the games and then the same people that play them will pay hundreds of dollars then complain that consoles and computers cost to much and it's not like mobile phones people are buying are exactly cheap or last long either. Like Genshin Impact would be giga fun if they didn't make the game with gatekeeping content to try and get money out of people. It's still alright if you want to f2p it but it could be really good. Honestly I think what holds back gaming is that people seem to think that paying 60$ for a game is to much when accounting for inflation people were paying 100-200 dollars for games in the past. If a game is good and a company actually made a good game I don't see why they shouldn't be able to sell a game for 100 dollars or more especially say the souls like games where the devolopers have to cut costs on a lot of the games because of a lack of funds despite the company being so successful they can't bring out their best because their best wouldn't be able to make a profit off 60$ per game. Which is why the market I think is turning to gacha games and the like were they can get more money out of it because it's really hard to make a game good enough for 60$ to get people to go for it over the f2p games that are easy to make and can guarantee returns with gacha. I think if computer gamers want to have good games continued to be made on a regular occurrence they need to be willing to pay more than 60$ for a good game especially when the same people wouldn't bat an eye on paying 200 dollars on a gacha game.
@@andrews9695 I mostly agree but i also think you have to take into account that 60$ means different things in different countries based on peoples income. The minimum wage in my country is around 350$. There's a lot of games out there competing for your money so if you can only afford to buy one 60$ game every couple months you'd have to choose carefully. Then there's also the fact that there are a lot of games for way smaller price tags that are just as good if not better(like older games that have been discounted or indie games that won't charge as much since they don't have to make up for as big of a development cost as an AAA game). I also think some people don;t even realize how much they spend on their mobile game. You make small incremental purchases(1$, 5$) and they add up to way more than you'd expect. Plus mobile games a lot of times just count on whales to make their money. I have someone in my server in a mobile game that's spent well over 20K $ on the game and she isn't even in the top 20 globally.
Actually, the main reason is due to the fact that the US is basically the only console heavy country outside of some in Africa. EU is PC, and Asia is poor. Of course, games will be played by those with time on their hands and little responsibilities, hence kids. That's never changed. Also, I doubt Diablo Immortal will be a big hit in Asia. Asia already has an immense amount of mobile games made specifically for them, and Blizzard cant even get their core audience right, why would they get Asia right?
14:16 Thanks Asmon, not only is it easier to understand you, but as someone who understands english really well, proper speech simply sounds better. Theory: What if yes you can play LoL on your phone, but like cross-platform fps, people on pc simply crush the console/mobile players? I don't even think its a matter of skill, its just that to drive a nail its easier to take a hammer than a saw. So people who play mobas on their phone rather have a phone only competition. Also, for those whom I just triggered, I do think gamepads are better than mouse and keyboard in other cases, it just depends. Which is why I have both.
League only got a mobile version recently and it's not cross-platform nor is it ever going to be probably. It's called Wild Rift and it has many differences compared to the original PC version
Also, there are cafes where you can hook up your phone to a dongle that has a mouse and keyboard connected to it and play that way, essentially using your phone as a really small computer. These is quite common in places like China for playing games like Fortnite and such.
Had a tribe in ark with a bunch of Vietnamese guys and also a guy in India, so that we could have people online at all times of the day. We all talked to each other using google translate it was pretty cool. Makes me excited for when translation technology progresses to the point where I can just have a real time conversation with someone speaking a different language.
Somehow I doubt the cultural or gaming market in China is anything even remotely close to those outside it. So it's rather naive and cynical to think that just because a trend in China is different than in the US, that it's due to something like sexism.
I mean he didn't say the trend was because of sexism. The video was trying to say that the reason women don't play games in the US is because of sexism but Asmon countered that by saying China clearly has racism and seems to have sexism in spades as well so if sexism was the sole reason for women to not play games in the US shouldn't the same be true say in China. Though maybe a counter argument might be that women in China they might be sexist and racist but it doesn't stem from the video game culture itself. Where the US might have less sexism but the video game culture itself seems a bit sexist though to me it seems like the women in the US are playing Apex Legends as all the people I see playing that game seem to be women. As for how the gaming culture got to be the way it is in the west I think it has to do that when computers and the internet were first becoming a big thing the people that were into it the most were "nerds and losers" and a high portion of these people were males and the gaming market that came after thus was also focused on males because they were the ones playing the games. Where in other countries they never had the slow rise of computers and the internet and then gaming and so to say korea they didn't view computers and gaming as things for nerds and geeks which were primarily men they got computers and the internet in high access to many people in a few short years and thus the gaming culture is differnt though it is important to note that the older generation still hates gaming and the gap in these cultures is a lot more focused on older people who hate gaming vs younger people than it does in the west were older people might not like gaming but they don't usually outright hate it and the focus is more on hardcore gaming which from how the culture formed was primarily male nerds vs casual gaming. There is also something to note that even in asian countries were the focus is on young vs old and females play games a lot more there still seems to be the tendency that esports is still dominated by males which I think is because males just typically seem to put a lot more effort into competitive games as it doesn't seem to be because of sexism that females don't have a hold into esports in asian countries so for the west that already started as male dominant nerds I think it makes sense that the hardcore gamer side would still be more male dominate and unless the entire culture were to specifically try and get females to play more competitive games I think the near future the hardcore games in the west will be played mainly by men and the females that come into gaming will be more taken into the more casual viewed games.
Yeah, they for some reason choose to ignore how heavily restricted gaming is in China. A LOT of games aren't even freely available there, ofc they won;t be popular. Besides everyone owns a phone and has some time to waste on their commute or during a break at work/school. Makes sense mobile games would be extremely popular. It's really just accessibility
There are two main concerns I have over this The first is that a bigger focus will be shifted into mobile gaming, and the PC/console market will suffer from a content draught because of it. The second is that companies will be more tempted to self-censor to appeal to foreign cultural differences. Can't wait for the word 'Taiwan' to be banned in all our games for example because that's what needs to happen for a game to be sold to the Chinese market.
I believe PC/console gaming will remain profitable for a long time, for example cyberpunk might have been a huge failure as a game, but certainly not as a product "The 2020 release of Cyberpunk allowed CDPR to break its all times sales record with $562 million in consolidated sales revenues. This is about 2.5 times, nearly triple, the previous record when The Witcher 3 launched in 2015", so we are probably in the clear
I used to think the same from China, but after their recent, unironic banning of gaming for the under 18 demographic I think they just shot themselves in the foot. The 13-18 demographic is like, 40% of games revenue, and companies no longer now have the incentive to do business there. I think more likely are Indian and Latin America will soak up that industry money. Latin america already has the tech infrastructure to compete with eastern europe, and its rabid fan culture will eat it all up. India has some of the fastest internet speeds in the world in urban centers, and with a 1 billion population on par with China, it seems the jucier target now.
There is no shortage of indie games and small-to-medium-scale games coming out quite frequently on PC. I don't think we're in hot water just yet, but I do think a lot of AAA studios definitely have already gone past that point already.
Fun fact: In recent years, there are children in Brazil that are starting to speak english first, even before portuguese (the native language) even if their parents don't speak english at all thanks to youtube.
It is kinda odd seeing him react to MatPat/Game Theory here for some reason, but this is a very interesting video overall by him and it is crazy to see how gaming is so different in other countries other than just the west, and Japan. I do feel like MatPat is speaking a lot of facts here
Iam still surprised to see that the video "Darth Sand" has only a couple million views or the video where Tommy Wiseauo is a Jedi hunter killing every one with only 2.5 Mio views. It's a masterpiece
Can I give a Brazillian perspective on a portion of this video? First, I'm shocked you guys never heard of Free Fire. It's not massive or anything around these parts, but it is sizeable. Anyways, to the points I wanted to talk about: 1 - Minimum Wage: The conversion makes our situation seems a bit worse than it is because the current USD-BRL ratio is fucked due to our incompetent president and the way our country handled Covid. Costs of living don't fluctuate *that* strongly based on the USD exchange, so while things certainly have been felt, I'd say a better figure for you guys to understand would be a 1-to-3 ratio between BRL and USd - so I'd say you should interpret our minimum wage as something closer to 300 USD. Still pretty bad, I'm sure, but still. 2 - South Americans being fanatical: Yeah, I've actually been thinking about this lately, because two weeks ago a brazillian content creator on Twitch made the biggest tabletop RPG stream ever (Cellbit's "A Ordem Paranormal"/"The Paranormal Order"), and I've been thinking precisely of how much our public gets engaged on things despite being a fraction of the total pool of viewers out there. And I think the answer is: You US folk are born in a world that treats you as kings. There's literally a name to this phenom - American Exceptionalism. For you guys, being number one is expected, is things being normal. It's tuesday. And every movie, book and piece of media reinforces that notion Meanwhile, I can't speak for all South American countries, but Brazil has a very strong "self-estheem" issue so to speak. You don't have movies about Brazillians saving the world. We too grow on the movies about the exceptional feats of other countries and not ours. And thus we tend to latch on very strongly on things when we perform well. This can notably be seen on sports - soccer is huge here because it's an area we know we dominate. MMA got huge here on the back of Anderson Silva's reign. Formula One was big in the 90s due to Ayrton Senna. And I think this new generation is doing something similar with content creators - which explains why we get so passionate when we find someone we vibe with. Hope this has been an interesting read for whoever does so. Have a great day, drink some water and don't forget that you are loved.
Yeah im not playing any of these super monetized mobile games no matter how much more connected the world becomes. I'm not at all surprised that some of the world's most popular games are mobile games you've never heard of that are popular in developing countries with massive populations lol.
My friend is Chinese and she told me she plays a MOBA game on her phone all the time. She told me it was really popular in China and showed me the game. I didn't know it was Honor of Kings at the time (because of translation), but then looked it up and that was it. A lot of players on there use their real life selfie pic as their profile picture and I was super surprised at how many girls were playing it each game. They even have a "Live" feature like Tiktok and there were a ton of popular female streamers. I was super fascinated and surprised - so that China statistic on female gamers seems valid to me.
17:32 tbf, you could... Just not spend. The game's difficulty revolves around the player's level, but the same goes with the drop rate. At the end of the day, you could finish the 3 chapters (so far) with the main 4 characters the game gives you. Limited time 5 * weapons and units are only obtainable with in-game premium currency, which you could get from missions, but it's not mandatory.
If only Asmon has Genshin friend that can get him play genshin. Most of his viewer really hate Genshin but after Asmon played it & said good, his viewer will change based on him lol
Bom vídeo, bem contemplativo, com boas opiniões e ganhou um pouco mais do meu respeito por fazer o que eu pensava ser apenas um capricho (falar inglês com uma semântica mais fácil de entender) pensando não só em outros falantes nativos de inglês mas também em pessoas como nos. Good video, It was contemplative, with good and well-thought opinions, and get a little more respect of me for speaking English clearly for all who can read English at least have an understanding of the content.
O Asmon não mente quando diz que gosta do público de outras regiões. Eu já tive um debate com ele sobre MMOs pelo chat da twitch na epoca que ele era "pequeno" e, apesar do meu inglês ser horrivel na época, ele não fez chacota nem nada. Assisto ele de desde então, o cara é fera
Eu não tinha ideia que o asmon tinha um publico brasileiro tão grande, na hora que citou brasil no video o chat ficou praticamente todo em português kkkkk, meu inglês não é tão avançado, mas consigo entender muito do que ele diz tbm, ele me ajuda demais na evolução do meu inglês.
Agreed. Not everyone can afford high-end PC or consoles, or fast internet connection, so you just use what you have. Here in the Philippines, Mobile Legends is super big esp to younger audiences
Honor of Kings and Arena of Valor are owned by Tencent, which got tired of waiting for Rito to release a mobile version of LoL and made a clone for China.
TLDR the gaming market is gonna turn into apostapocalyptic wasteland of low effort pay to win mobile games with indie games being the highest production value game you can get
Tbh it is already like that, look at wow, the only effort is in making the player spend more money, good gaming will become niche, as it was 20 years ago
@@advogadododiabo6940 I feel as though WoW isn't the best example as it's a beloved game that relies on nostalgia and time investment to get people to keep playing. It only started to become a microtransaction ridden cash grab later down the line. I think there will always be devs that want to create good games, but unfortunately I think we have and will be hit with more low effort clones that have microtransactions everywhere as there will always be people looking to make a quick buck.
Fun fact: If you react to something from Brasil you will be bombarded with brasilian viewers because for some reason we like so see people reacting to things from our country (bonus points if it is food).
@@brig6671 All the GTAs, Far Crys, Assassins Creeds, Tom Clancy's Tombraiders, Raymans, Dishonoureds, Just Dances, Baldur Gates and even Goldeneye 007 just to name a few. Now sush. Go wear a dunce cap and laugh at yourself in the corner. bubye.
MatPat is so dishonest blaming the rates at which women play games and the various genre's between china and the us on "discrimination". like dude, just because women don't play FPS games doesn't mean they're being discriminated against. even asmon was quick to call this out and i'm proud of him for it. China is way more sexist/racist than the US is and they still have way more women playing games. This is how you program people to think a certain way.
Someone else in the comments here pointed out that it could also be due to the recent restrictions on young gamers being put into effect, so the way these kids circumvent the restriction is by playing using a parent's or sibling's credentials (just like in the early 2000s when you'd use your parent's details to make an account on a website), and you can bet that a good chunk of those kids are using their mother's credentials, thus inflating the female demographic statistic. It's not proven, obviously, but it is a plausible reason behind this trend.
I'm starting to understand what blizzard was thinking when they decided to make a mobile diablo game. Unfortunately for them, not everyone in the world likes mobile. There are a lot of them to be sure but none of them were in the audience that day.
the empire of bald is growing in brazil, the world is the next conquest all jokes aside though, it's awesome to see you doing so well with your stream bro, and im definitely not the only one who watches for you rather than the game you're playing. listening to you talk about some random obscure thing, or slaying blizzard bs, reacting to a dumb video, playing FF14 and documenting your whole journey...you're great at whatever content you do, and you've helped me get through tough times. i love who you are as a guy, the simple outlook you have on life is amazing and i wish more people were as humble. i never get the vibe that you're stuck up or entitled, whenever i watch you i dont see a micro celebrity or anything like that, what i see is a guy. just a guy, like the rest of us guys, getting through life and trying to have fun in the process. thank you for all the laughs, thank you for being the backdrop to many gaming sessions, thank you for sticking to your beliefs and being honest. keep going big dick and doing what you love, but dont forget to take care of yourself. if you need to take a break, ever, we will always understand and we'll be here waiting when you get back.
Lol. Chinese hiatory has a lot of racism and sexism just like us in it but yeah the arrival of communism does seem to not give a fuck about trivial things past how they can keep track of you and make you a meaningful cog in the machine.
Thing that knocks me off *Genshin Impact* is one _cannot reset_ the game back to the beginning. When I initially launched the game on my laptop - which was so poorly optimised and lousy Gefore MX150 - the intro video couldn't keep up and essentially was a _blank screen_ .By the time the laptop caught its breath to render something, I was already in the game world. With no means to restart, I had no idea what the initial context of the story is. Was forced to watch other people's recording to get an idea what i missed on my own computer.
But it's promotion of a gacha game. Just because the streamer swears off paying doesn't mean the followers don't get milked. Better idea is to play a game with ethical monetization, and not have to grapple with the issue.
True. I always say there are 3 ways to play the game - 1. free to play (hard mode), 2. with Welkin that costs 5,5€ month (normal mode), 3 whaling (easy mode)
@@kmurphy0620 0 parts of Genshin are P2W... Someone literally posted a 36* Abyss clear with 0 pulls made from day 1. So if you're getting milked, you made a decision to sink money in. There are a lot of players who don't spend money at all or spend like $5 a month. XIV is $14 a month. I don't see the difference, frankly.
@@leaflaurel looked it up, and you pay real money to recruit and power up with the ability to spend thousands. You compare that to a subscription?! Stupid opinion. Don't marry a game and avoid these copium responses.
You can get 36* with 4* chars if you invest in them properly. That means focus on specific chars. Lots fo ppl level too many chars and all of them are subpar since resources are limited. If you properly lvl 2 carries with crowns you can get at least 33* in Abyss.
Hey Mr. Asmongold, can you explain to me how technology improving will lower latency ? The minimum *possible* ping time between Sao Paulo and Tokyo is 296 milliseconds. It doesn't matter how good technology gets, you're not going to get ping times that violate the speed of light.
It’s mostly China and Indian games that are that big. Also the trends from Asian countries coming to the Us will suck. It focuses on accessibility and devices that everyone has. Mobile games. It’s why blizzard went with Diablo Immortal
So MatPat is lecturing me about how china is more inclusive to women then THE WEST?!?! We might be somewhat divided in ideology in the west. But there's no better place to be a women then in Western Nations. This is ridiculous, but Matpat is allowed his opinion... even if its dumb as sht opinion
When a lack of knowledge and preconceived notions formed by ideological nonsense unite they can cause you to believe the most incoherent bullshit. Literally talking about a country where it's residents were aborting their female children because of the 1 child limit and kept trying until they got a boy. Truly absurd to say what MatPatt said.
Gaming industry =/= society A lot of Chinese girls/women play games, because it's already ingrained in their society. (Why do you think they are putting restrictions on play times? During the 2010 and before there was a lot of cases of teenager being obsessed by games and parents (both men and women) so obsessed to the point of forgettting/abusing their kids) There is many Chinese games that appeals to both men and women but will never be published outside of China/Asia. Unlike to the west in which gaming was seen for a long time as a "male" thing, to the point of feminist groups being angry that most of players are male while in China games are just seen as a thing that anyone can play. Heck there is more "female" oriented games (be it fighting, rpg, etc) than there is in the west. Finding a game about fighting and rpg that is really about a girl main character and quarter to the female demographic first, there is not a lot in the west, most of them are from Asia, or kids games. This is not an opinion, simply facts. Again: Gaming industry =/= society Just like how reading manga is not seen as childish thing than in the west
@@narudayo5053 I can see English might not be your first language or maybe you're coming to a conclusion based on something nonexistent in my comment. I never said the Gaming industry = society. I didn't even talk about gaming lol My point was way more general: "Western Culture IS, HAS, or will ever be the greatest culture that fosters the most possibilities Regardless of Sex, ethnicity, or socioeconomic background.
My sister is a grandmaster League player. Up until she started going to tournaments, she kept her gender a secret due to how toxic the playerbase is towards woman. When she started college on got accepted onto the university esports team, the rest of the team (all male) completely shunned her despite her being the highest ranked person in the group. I can guarantee that A: the toxicity of these playerbases plays a major role in discrepancies of which gender plays which genre more, and B: A vary large portion of that "90% male playerbase" is actually women who pretend to be men on their accounts to avoid harassment
god i still hate game theory everything is still just poorly researched and jumping to false conclusions. like he states some stats he found and than immediate starts making up bullshit from those stats.
It's just content. I love how it started with a teaser about unknown games (that are seriously not that unknown) and went straight to the assumption that we don't have a free market in the west, we force people of different genders to play X games through advertising and if it's not 50/50 - there's some sexism involved.... erm, no. Even if the genders were exactly equal financially, in interests, temperament, upbringing and hormones... it still wouldn't be equal, and there isn't always a good fresh game available for all markets so even from a developer standpoint you will never be able to make a fair test, and why should you, unless you're obsessed with gender to start with? Just let people play games.
@@f.r8580 I think in the west it's just more pointed towards males because when computers were being devoloped and the internet was becoming a thing it was mainly nerds and geeks (mainly men) who were into computers where other countries tend to obtain all these things at once and isn't slowly developed by nerds and geeks and so the gaming market is differnt. In the US it's mostly hardcore gamers vs casual gamers where in say Korea or China it's more Older generation hates video games with a passion because it gets in the way of the kids going to school for 16 hrs a day and the younger generation finds video games as a great escape and so all the younger generation flocks to video games where in the US parents might not like video games in general they don't outright hate it and though children might find video games as an escape there aren't many parents trying to force there kids to be at school for 16 hrs a day or pressuring there kids to learn the violin until there fingers bleed and with how the market of computers devoloped in the US I think it makes sense that more males play these "hardcore games". Then he also doesn't seem to realize that honor of kings is basically China's mobile version of League of legends and wild rift is the mobile version outside of China and he was trying to make the argument that they make games differently there that attract females more but I don't think the population of females wild rift would be the same as honor of kings and they are the same game I think and if they were similiar it would probably have something to do with them being mobile games instead of something to do with sexism.
I played WoW with a guy from Argentina, and he ended up coming to America to visit the guys in my guild (we were all in high school together). Such a cool experience :)
17:05 I played through the entire main story without spending anything. The game gives you enough to play it through and you can grind most of the things you want including characters. When you want those characters completely maxed out it's gonna take some money tho or an unrealistic amount of time.
I mean the game is still made with spending money in mind so unless you want to intentionally play the game slowly and be gatekeeped by systems intentionally designed to slow the game down you will have to pay money and all the good content that people like the most is gate kept by money as well. That's like if all the new League champions requires you to spend thousands of dollars and then they happened to also be the most op champions and the funniest to play and even if you could get a high league rank with regular f2p champions it would really hinder the fun of the game.
@@andrews9695 All the good content people like the most can be played on a mobile while shitfaced with your feet. Exploration > Story > > > "challenging content" (usually just a low effort DPS check circle room with a bunch of enemies). You can, if you choose to, never increase the difficulty of your world from the original state. Not that it matters because the content was designed with mobile in mind. Main way game pushes you to spend money are the new characters... Which doesnt really matter from difficulty standpoint because 3 best characters (and 2 of them best by a long, long shot) are lower rarity units that are given for free from time to time. You want them either for the character, story or booba, very rarely for gameplay reasons. Don't get me wrong, it's a degenerate gambling simulator with insane pricetags but it tries to milk you in a very specific way.
This is actually a real issue. I have played Maplestory (a Korean Nexon game) off and on since launch in 2003, and have never came across a stream or had a video directed to me on any platform. Most recently had a friend that travelled to Korea, and found out it is like a right of passage to Korean teenagers, alot like runescape was or minecraft is now. To this day I still dont understand how a massively popular game has zero spotlight, even though it is very popular in North America.
@@scribblord2970 Laughs in Enviosity who played almost entire year and was clearing entire content with only basic characters, saving for his waifu. As a small fish (30$ spent on BPs over the Genshin's lifespan), I was still able to pull a lot of characters. They are more time gated than paywall gated. If you missed someone, you just need to wait for re-run banner.
Honestly, the game gives you a bunch of rolling chances throughout the story mode and the events, you may not get the most hyped character or that specific one you wanted without spending money, but you will definetely have rolled 3-4 legendary characters as a f2p, and there are a lot of videos on how to build even the basic characters of the start of the game to do endgame content. I enjoyed the hell out of this game for months without spending a dime but the grind for artifacts and upgrade itens got me bored after that
@@JayceCH. If you call Genshin's (heck, MHY's) gacha system as the worst system you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, guess I'll keep inhaling that copium then, it's tasty. They have pity system so you are sure to get 5* drop after 70-90 pulls, and you get ~40-50 free pulls each patch. Worst gacha system? Go look no further than F/GO, which is infamous for abyssmal drop chances and no pity, you can burn 10k $ and not get anything out of it.
Im always amaze of how asmon says how can they play this, it have sh** grafics, and then he played Worl of Warcraft for 15 years that lets face it it does not have that amazing grafics
@@cattysplat WOW Classic it has a art style that Is right but WOW did not, the grafics that it has are the evolution of years of little ugrades by upgrades, and becouse of that it does not have a "good grafics" has asmon refer to.
@@freakbeta8815 Idk, i personally find games like WoW that don't go for a realistic look to be easier to consider as good in their artstyle compared to games that try to look realistic but end up looking kind of like a kid's plastic toy set.
@@Arkanna96 yeah i know, what i was trying to say is that ther is games that have a art style and they look good like wow but asmon says that looks like shit
17:00 .. people not knowing that you don't have to spend a dime and you can beat the hardest content in the game, also mihoyo gives enough ingame currency for you to get lucky and grab yourself some better weapons or more character (that you will not use later on either way since you already have too many of them xD)
Hey, I'm from Argentina, Garena is pretty popular here and in Latino America in general, same with Mobile Legends (copy of LoL), the amount of people that play mobile games is constantly increasing, and most of them are kids and they watch everyday, gameplays on RUclips and thats why the games are so popular in RUclips, millions of kids are watching that.
8:50 i'm brazilian, free fire and LoL they exterminated players of various styles of games, for being accessible and light, it works on any cell phone, besides the fact that we have Dj Alok as a character, i live in the same city where Alok was born, Goiânia-Goiás!
You can enjoy genshin impact without paying a cent. That’s so nice about it, you don’t have to gacha gamble anything to progress (but you get ALL recources from playing and events anyway)
One thing I'd like to add here is the mentality change in the social groups the old "targeting" applied to. I'm nearly 40. In my youth girls were not interested in chasing after a ball or riding a scateboard. Princeses, models, my little ponies and barbie dolls, those were girls' interests. 10 years later, when I reached a marriagable age, youg women didn't like games because games were the thing that their boyfriends/husbands were wasting time on instead of fawning over them. Untill they tried playing themselves. Now when I go past a primary school I see a bunch of teenage girls running on a soccer field together with the boys. Times change, mentality changes. And so the market has no choice but to adapt.
There absolutely could be social reasons certain games are more popular among men in the west. It probably isn't just MatPat's top-down forced bullshit. Women are underrepresented in "hardcore" gaming at least partially because women as a large group don't get on board with anything unless it's popular and culturally incentivised with way less women being willing to do what is considered "niche" or "nerdy" than men. If MatPat can just claim that is the explanation of the numbers, so can I.
Só tem uma questão nesse vídeo que me deixa curioso. Certa vez vi uma pesquisa dizendo que em torno de 5% dos brasileiros sabem inglês, e apenas 1% é fluente. Então, como CARALHOS tem tanto brasileiro assistindo o Asmon e outros streamers gringos? Só quem sabe inglês aqui no br é quem joga? To confuso demais.
Videogames sempre foram um incentivo e uma forma pra aprender inglês huahahah entao as chances desses 5% tambem serem os 5% que gostam de videogames é alta
Rio, SP, talvez sul salvam, centro-oeste, note e nordeste, praticamente ninguém fala inglês, estou morando a 10 anos em Belém, se conheci 10 pessoas fluentes em inglês foi muito
I'm an English teacher here in the middle of the amazon and almost all my students play free fire. The thing about this game is that it literally runs in almost every cellphone, it doesn't require you to have "the best cellphone" or even a good one for that matter, it's accessible to people from all ages and incomes, that's the appeal that it has.
its weird to consider since here in Canada there is no more '' bad cellphone '' you can even buy at the store since a long time. Glad India is catching up soon we are all gonna be online!
@@nateg.6187 Yea India probably has to catchup with that also. I agree, its lame
Yeah, games in the "west" went from being creative to becoming streamlined high value products aimed at people with rigs to play them since prettier means better to our primitive monkey brains. Had say Microsoft made a dirt cheap home console with fun but ultimately cheap games, they'd make a fortune. As is shown with Free Fire.
Same here with Indonesia, the ease of acces and also money is the main reason, it's so simple actually. Since not many people have the power to play advance game, it's also harder for them to play with each other if one guy have advance tech while the other can't keep up, they have no choice but to also play the same game just to be with their friends. Remeber that trend is everything in social these days, so if you don't keep up with friends, you also left behind by them.
@@nateg.6187 India needs to catch up with their online education
I mean I know exactly how it feels. I am Japanese so my gaming experience is vastly different from westerner. What's really funny about this is, my deep iceberg gaming was western gaming from my perspective. Most notably PC gaming in the late 90s. Majority of Japanese gamer never have heard of Doom, Hexen, Jack the Rabbit, Mechwarrior, Age of Empire, and so on. I was hooked on these games in Japan but it was very hard to come by.
you a westernaboo lmao, jokes aside yea thats crazy, i have a friend who is really into japanese games, and he always talks about how hard it is finding translations and getting actual copies of htem
As a girl gamer I'd love for this to be true but I can't help but think this statistic might not be what it seems. It's well known that to circumvent child gaming laws in China, a lot of teenagers will use the credentials of a family member to play online games. I can't help but think a lot of those girls playing Honor of Kings are just moms letting their kids use the mother's info to play the game passed the regulated limit.
That actually makes sense
5Head
makes sense
honestly, that's probably also why it's such a 50/50 split too
Wow, that actually does make a lot of sense considering the disproportionate amount of males to females in Chinese society.
"If a girl plays league of legends, she's probably hot... No, no, I did a lot of research on this!" - Asmongold, 2021
@@MadafakinRio That's fair. In my experience the handful I knew, even dated one, were fairly attractive to me. At the end of the day, it's really just personal opinion. Asmon was just trying to make a self deprecating joke out of that statement.
They are absolutely insane, that's my research. I have never met a sane woman who plays LoL.
@@ManOfParody that’s the side effect/defence mechanism from the modern warfare Xbox 360 ass abuse they receive on LoL for being a woman😂 fr though I remember going round to a friend from college’s place and her playing LoL and her saying that she had to use voice changer so her team would listen to her and not be dicks lmao
@@ManOfParody yea we got anger issues thanks to the damn game
@@ManOfParody LMFAO listen man, it ain't just the girls who are insane, you've seen some of the shit talking that happens in league. A lot of dudes who play are also batshit crazy.
The Warrior of Darkness comparison is on point. I'm brazilian, i live in Brazil, the country is literally a bizarro version of the U.S, kinda like a parody only slightly more grim.
Brasil Caralho
Atleast you beat US in kills per year^^
Brazil is what America is quickly becoming.
@@david6025 and US beats Brazil in school shootings, so whatever, I guess...
We even have our own scuffed Trump as president, but the sad thing is, Brazil has such an amazing culture but even some brazilians don't seem to care for it and go suck off the U.S.
I want more Eastern European RPGs, they seem to have a deep understanding of the emotions repressed in people and know how to use sorrow to bring them out. Metro series and the Pathologic series are two examples of games that affected my emotions for months and made me actively hunt for more eastern European games.
I mean you probably played the living heck out of it but The Witcher 3 is always there
It's probably because Eastern Europeans know a thing or two about misery.
@@lilporky8565 I think its in our culture. As a russian, a lot of our literature is also hella depressing lmao.
Eastern Europe knows about misery because of Russia 🤢🤮
Did anyone say Darkwood?
You have to realize gaming consoles are more rare in these parts of the world but everyone has a cellphone. This is essentially their Gameboy, it's a revolution almost. Imagine if we had these "bad" graphics on our purple see-through Gameboy. Shit would have blown our minds.
You have half the reason. The real reason is that the phone is connected online. This is what makes Free Fire 'the game' for young kids in developing countries.
Its not the mobility aspect (Gameboy). Its the online aspect. Its like CS 1.6/Source in 2022 at their fingertips on any moderately powered cellphone. The reason the game is so big, is because the largest audience with time to play games is teenagers, and teenagers in Asia dont own PCs or consoles in general. To play on a PC, they usually go to internet cafes.
Also, TGT has it backwards: Asia is looking to the US to make games, not vice versa. Free Fire is a fortnite/PUBG clone, Kings is like League/DOTA, etc. While the US may want to tap into Asian markets (GL with that, I think its not gonna work out too well), the reality is that the Asian gaming giants havent done anything differently than the US gaming giants, scandals and all. If the US took anything, it was the high levels of micro transactions present in Asian games (due to the insane volume of players).
This isnt to say US media isnt sometimes influenced by foreign culture/media. But foreign media is EXTREMELY influenced by Western culture. Its a highly addictive culture where even todays lesser freedoms are still amazingly light years ahead of the freedoms one has in China, Thailand, India, etc.
Doubt everyone in Tanzania has a cellphone
Asmon Garena free fire stream confirmed
Coooomo estás bro, que haces acá xD
Recorded over his shoulder and a potato
Confirmado que Asmon Jugara Free Fair
Cool spoiler bro
Literal cuando habló de sudamericanos fui a los comentarios y vi esto xD
Happy to see you finally talked about your brazillian audience Asmon! I'm brazillian and I watch your streams/videos daily. I wish you all the best man, thanks for everything!
Brasil porra
Brasilsilsil
You’re not a Brazilian unless you spam crappy comments on RUclips such as; B R A S I L
Brasil poha
BRASÉU!
I think Asmon was on to something when he mentioned that a lot of women play games on their phones. Let's face it not a lot of women own or use a gaming pc where most of the so called male dominated audience games are found. Now that mobile games have made similar games to a lot of PC games become much more all encompassing in terms of medium and audience. The skewed difference in the demographic is evening out. I mean just look at mobile MOBA games like Wild Rift or Lol Mobile and Mobile Legends where a good chunk of the player base are women.
Animal crossing got banned in china because people were using the drawing tool to draw stuff that was memeing on the covid situation in china, and free Hong Kong stuff. So people were trying to make money from reselling animal crossing. But they can't name it "animal crossing" because it's banned, so they named the listing " buff man who pick up tree brenches" it was funny as fuck
@Josh even more importantly is wild rift is actually a pretty recent release, so it would be interesting to see if the gender gap of moba players starts shrinking as wild rift gets older
I wonder why women didnt invest money in gaming pc uh maybe because being a nerd wasn't popular till recent years?
its also a cultural thing too, women dont really get gaming devices like men do, so growing up men are usually exposed to gaming at a younger age where women are exposed to other things like makeup, etc.
@@Lexipumpkin783 lol parents buy what kids wants, stop making up dumb reasons. It's not cultural. Women arent interested in gaming and devices in general as much as men for biology.
I even improve my english watching your stream and videos. Especially my "listening". Thanks to you I own a schoolarship.
Cheers from Brazil we love u.
Watching streamers was a huge breakthrough in my understanding of English too. I've been able to watch random videos in English thanks to Shroud and ChocoTaco, and now it's basically my second language.
Keep doing that, it's incredibly useful, in addition to being extremely entertaining.
wow thats awesome good job
@@vilxxblack2472 4. You’re also clearly fluent in bigotry.
@@vilxxblack2472 lol it’s better if you don’t learn it, the less people you’re able to communicate with the better
@@vilxxblack2472
Vilxx Black: *Is a weeb*
Also Vilxx Black: *Calls other people trash*
We’ve reached peak irony.
A big thing recently as well (not sure if MatPat mentions, only 14:11 in), India has banned all Chinese developed apps as well as PUBG. Market opportunities for non-Tencent titles are huge.
Yes but we now has our own pubg
Reminds me of 2018 and 2017 where everyone expected Fortnite to be the most tweeted game of the year but it was Fate/Grand Order, a game most people in the west don't know but made billions in Japan.
Please do not name the game that makes millions of wallets cry. I can still taste the tsunami of salt from all the rolls
I know that series from its off-brand manga.
So, this explains the "dOnT yOu gUyS HaVE pHoNeS?" thing with blizzard.
Actually, that's what they ment
western audience simply dont see how popular mobile games are in asia
@@alcherist4762 maybe we don't want to play trash on a cellphone
ya and its also why people said that they are sell outs
@@MrSlaughterrific you can call it trash etc but it doesnt change the fact that people are flocking into mobile game more
THE thing about FREE FIRE is that it;s played by literally everyone in second and third world countries. Its sys req is low and yet still offers good content so it pulled in a very large audience of people who have low spec devices. The character they get in game, for example, Cristiano Ronaldo shows it;s type audience. THE GAME itself is done well, compared to high spec requirements like COD and FORTNITE.
fortine
Yeah, while true Free fire its a massive cashgrab, they really ramping up the collaboration event with diverse collab, to that i give the credit for.
high spec fortnite KEKW
pretty much exactly what the video said...
they literally added KOF characters lmao
Brazilian viewer here! I'm relatively new to your channel (compared to your loyal WoW partners lol), I've been watching for maybe two or three years, and I really enjoy your content, specially the reactions and more serious discussion videos. I began with your Dark Souls reactions and by now I lost count of how many times I watched your Concordia and channel 5 videos haha
I have never played WoW, I don't even like the game, but even your videos talking about it are really fun and informative to me, and the same goes for your final fantasy content. Even Zepla got a sub and a few views from me, due to your interactions with her and Rich. I can see a lot of reasons for latin america people to enjoy your content, and here in Brazil WoW had kind of a boom last year due to some well known streamers leaving league of legends and getting into the game.
Ps. Frostpunk is AMAZING, you should give it a try off-stream to see if you enjoy this type of game. We have recently received the news about Frostpunk 2 and I'm really excited about it.
I think the difference between the western and asian female playercount is the culture. In western countries gamers have always been seen as anti-social nerds. In asian countries these esports teams are fucking rockstars.
That's a fair assumption but I doubt it's the only reason, but is still definitely a reason for it.
that might have been true like 10 years ago but everyone plays games now
Yeah, after all in korea as much as a meme it is, some dads really won't approve of their daughter's bf if they don't play starcraft. And LoL there is so popular that guys actually impress girls if they play Jin well.
another difference is propaganda and lies in media and no accountability when providing statistics for western outlets. They can claim 100% female audience u will never fucking know the truth.
@@chimera7875 Hey man, if my future daughter's bf can't beat me in Starcraft I won't really approve of him either.
"They are racist as F man"
Well, as an Asian, I can claim that you are not wrong.
@@iruga7379 They aren't per say racist, but they are very blunt. It's more of a tough love thing, you need to earn their respect so that they won't generalize you (China).
@@iruga7379 Yes. SEA countries can be quite casually racist towards each other even though we're great friends.
@@iruga7379 Indians are more racist to Indians than the world is to them
@@iruga7379 We're more open about being rude, let's put it that way.
Anything can be used as a weapon if we see you as an outsider (not just in terms of race), nationality, gender, or just general facts like height, weight etc.
But on the flip side, if we see you as “us”, we don't care about any of the above.
We might still talk behind your back though, IF you did things/ behave in ways that we deem to be "outland-ish”.
But that has less to do with your identity, it's just an anchor for the sake of putting you in a “not us” box.
If anything, we tend to be xenophobic.
@@iruga7379 I mean it's especially true in China were the government likes to push bad things onto differnt groups so some years everyone will hate french people and some years they will really hate the US and if you tell people you are from those locations when they are getting hate you can be in a really bad place you might even just get beat up and thrown in prison if you're at the wrong place at the wrong time. Then because there are so few tourists allowed into China and china is big so even fewer go to a lot of the smaller countries and lets say you're black it will be really weird for them so everyone will stare at you even if they aren't being racist it's still really offputting. Then even outside of China a lot of the asian countries have a tendency to being nationalistic which I think to a certain extent isn't bad but sometimes it leads to an attitude that looks down on anything outside of you're country which I think is a problem but I think the west also has the opposite problem where they don't know history or anything about other countries and then there's people that think white males are the worst thing to happen in history and will go to the point of being "non racist" that they discriminate against everyone who isn't a minority to make being a minority be something special which also is wrong as well.
9:05 when I started playing WoW, the monthly salary in Brazil was 350 reais, working 40 hours a week, and the game I paid in dollars and cost me 50 reais a month
tinha que dividir conta com os brother da lan house kkkkkkk
@@FerreiraDeAssis kkkkkkkkk
Dang that’s a shit ton of money
@@FerreiraDeAssis nunca joguei em lan house, meu pc era branco/amarelo com a internet discada 56kbps, bons tempos de WoW Brasil, TBC até parar no Legion
I can think many online games that were super massive in Asia and was essentially nothing in the west: talesrunner (an mmorpg running game), raycity (race car mmorpg), Pangya (golf mmorpg), point blank (fps), and special force (fps).
I watch your videos every day, Brazilian MMO players since 2002. Currently only playing FFXIV and Hearthstone
Duuude, drop HS and try out LoR! HS players are leaving in droves for LoR. It's not a p2w cash sink like HS, and there's the added benefit of not supporting Bliz... lol
Cadê os brasileiros nessa desgraça?
@@ClandestineMerkaba lul supporting China
@@alexbrennan9928 Small-minded flippant comment. LoR treats it's playerbase better than HS, period. That's it really... Fuck-all to do with geopolitics.
já basta o PT, não ajudem a China não kkk, daqui a pouco vem outro vírus dos comunas vão ficar chorando hehe
As a brazilian, most of us tend to cherish/idolize low-spec games with shitty graphics because we're poor af. It's hard to play newer games when we got 200$ minimum wage while having to pay 70$ for a AAA game (or 950$ on a PS5, taxes are abusive here). But for some reason, phones are actually not that expensive here, so most of us can access decent mobile hardware without paying 5mo worth of salary.
That's why most of these old-ass shooters with and MMOs with bad graphics will always be popular here (Like CSGO, Crossfire, league, free fire and such).
The dude summoned Brazilians out of nowhere. Btw, I noticed that his editor is Brazilian too (one of them?)
Pq exatamente tu acha que ele talvez seja br?
@@phJota tem um vídeo nesse canal, não lembro qual era, onde aparecia uma postagem do Twitter em uma edição. O Twitter estava em português brasileiro
I think something that might be interesting to look at is the age group of these games. The ease of access for mobile games has made them popular among younger audiences. In fact, I know the player base for "Honor of Kings" has a large percentage of them being kids. The future of gaming is always on the platform that the current younger generations are playing on. 40 years ago, it was consol and people in that age group got attached to it and when they grew up, they call themselves console gamers. 30 years ago, it was PC. Now, as Asmon said, the ease of access makes every kid a mobile gamer and that's just what they will be attached to and play in the years to come. It's sad that Mobile games will be the "future of gaming" and take most of a publisher's resources. Diablo Immortal for example, despite getting all the lashes in the "matured gaming community" is actually getting a lot of hype in China and Southeast Asian countries. You bet it will blow up there when it gets released and make 10 times the money of all previous diablo games combined in like a year.
@@cattysplat I mean I think boomers wouldn't hate mobile games if they weren't pretty much all gacha games that requires you to pay hundreds of dollars to actually play the games and then the same people that play them will pay hundreds of dollars then complain that consoles and computers cost to much and it's not like mobile phones people are buying are exactly cheap or last long either. Like Genshin Impact would be giga fun if they didn't make the game with gatekeeping content to try and get money out of people. It's still alright if you want to f2p it but it could be really good.
Honestly I think what holds back gaming is that people seem to think that paying 60$ for a game is to much when accounting for inflation people were paying 100-200 dollars for games in the past. If a game is good and a company actually made a good game I don't see why they shouldn't be able to sell a game for 100 dollars or more especially say the souls like games where the devolopers have to cut costs on a lot of the games because of a lack of funds despite the company being so successful they can't bring out their best because their best wouldn't be able to make a profit off 60$ per game. Which is why the market I think is turning to gacha games and the like were they can get more money out of it because it's really hard to make a game good enough for 60$ to get people to go for it over the f2p games that are easy to make and can guarantee returns with gacha. I think if computer gamers want to have good games continued to be made on a regular occurrence they need to be willing to pay more than 60$ for a good game especially when the same people wouldn't bat an eye on paying 200 dollars on a gacha game.
@@andrews9695 I mostly agree but i also think you have to take into account that 60$ means different things in different countries based on peoples income. The minimum wage in my country is around 350$. There's a lot of games out there competing for your money so if you can only afford to buy one 60$ game every couple months you'd have to choose carefully. Then there's also the fact that there are a lot of games for way smaller price tags that are just as good if not better(like older games that have been discounted or indie games that won't charge as much since they don't have to make up for as big of a development cost as an AAA game).
I also think some people don;t even realize how much they spend on their mobile game. You make small incremental purchases(1$, 5$) and they add up to way more than you'd expect. Plus mobile games a lot of times just count on whales to make their money. I have someone in my server in a mobile game that's spent well over 20K $ on the game and she isn't even in the top 20 globally.
Actually, the main reason is due to the fact that the US is basically the only console heavy country outside of some in Africa. EU is PC, and Asia is poor. Of course, games will be played by those with time on their hands and little responsibilities, hence kids. That's never changed. Also, I doubt Diablo Immortal will be a big hit in Asia. Asia already has an immense amount of mobile games made specifically for them, and Blizzard cant even get their core audience right, why would they get Asia right?
Well the PC community isn’t remotely close to being dead so you might be partially wrong on how it’ll a play out
14:16 Thanks Asmon, not only is it easier to understand you, but as someone who understands english really well, proper speech simply sounds better.
Theory: What if yes you can play LoL on your phone, but like cross-platform fps, people on pc simply crush the console/mobile players? I don't even think its a matter of skill, its just that to drive a nail its easier to take a hammer than a saw. So people who play mobas on their phone rather have a phone only competition. Also, for those whom I just triggered, I do think gamepads are better than mouse and keyboard in other cases, it just depends. Which is why I have both.
League only got a mobile version recently and it's not cross-platform nor is it ever going to be probably. It's called Wild Rift and it has many differences compared to the original PC version
@@levivass Oh well good to know
Also, there are cafes where you can hook up your phone to a dongle that has a mouse and keyboard connected to it and play that way, essentially using your phone as a really small computer. These is quite common in places like China for playing games like Fortnite and such.
@@ToyokaX Wow, I'd never do that, but it's actually a great idea!
LoL on mobile is practically a separate game with many differences
Had a tribe in ark with a bunch of Vietnamese guys and also a guy in India, so that we could have people online at all times of the day. We all talked to each other using google translate it was pretty cool. Makes me excited for when translation technology progresses to the point where I can just have a real time conversation with someone speaking a different language.
Jan 2022 - Asmon sponsored by Garena Free Fire
Somehow I doubt the cultural or gaming market in China is anything even remotely close to those outside it. So it's rather naive and cynical to think that just because a trend in China is different than in the US, that it's due to something like sexism.
Based king have your crown
I mean he didn't say the trend was because of sexism. The video was trying to say that the reason women don't play games in the US is because of sexism but Asmon countered that by saying China clearly has racism and seems to have sexism in spades as well so if sexism was the sole reason for women to not play games in the US shouldn't the same be true say in China.
Though maybe a counter argument might be that women in China they might be sexist and racist but it doesn't stem from the video game culture itself. Where the US might have less sexism but the video game culture itself seems a bit sexist though to me it seems like the women in the US are playing Apex Legends as all the people I see playing that game seem to be women.
As for how the gaming culture got to be the way it is in the west I think it has to do that when computers and the internet were first becoming a big thing the people that were into it the most were "nerds and losers" and a high portion of these people were males and the gaming market that came after thus was also focused on males because they were the ones playing the games. Where in other countries they never had the slow rise of computers and the internet and then gaming and so to say korea they didn't view computers and gaming as things for nerds and geeks which were primarily men they got computers and the internet in high access to many people in a few short years and thus the gaming culture is differnt though it is important to note that the older generation still hates gaming and the gap in these cultures is a lot more focused on older people who hate gaming vs younger people than it does in the west were older people might not like gaming but they don't usually outright hate it and the focus is more on hardcore gaming which from how the culture formed was primarily male nerds vs casual gaming. There is also something to note that even in asian countries were the focus is on young vs old and females play games a lot more there still seems to be the tendency that esports is still dominated by males which I think is because males just typically seem to put a lot more effort into competitive games as it doesn't seem to be because of sexism that females don't have a hold into esports in asian countries so for the west that already started as male dominant nerds I think it makes sense that the hardcore gamer side would still be more male dominate and unless the entire culture were to specifically try and get females to play more competitive games I think the near future the hardcore games in the west will be played mainly by men and the females that come into gaming will be more taken into the more casual viewed games.
Yeah, they for some reason choose to ignore how heavily restricted gaming is in China. A LOT of games aren't even freely available there, ofc they won;t be popular. Besides everyone owns a phone and has some time to waste on their commute or during a break at work/school. Makes sense mobile games would be extremely popular. It's really just accessibility
There are two main concerns I have over this
The first is that a bigger focus will be shifted into mobile gaming, and the PC/console market will suffer from a content draught because of it.
The second is that companies will be more tempted to self-censor to appeal to foreign cultural differences. Can't wait for the word 'Taiwan' to be banned in all our games for example because that's what needs to happen for a game to be sold to the Chinese market.
I believe PC/console gaming will remain profitable for a long time, for example cyberpunk might have been a huge failure as a game, but certainly not as a product "The 2020 release of Cyberpunk allowed CDPR to break its all times sales record with $562 million in consolidated sales revenues.
This is about 2.5 times, nearly triple, the previous record when The Witcher 3 launched in 2015", so we are probably in the clear
while i wouldn't like that kind of censorship either, it won't make or break a game
I used to think the same from China, but after their recent, unironic banning of gaming for the under 18 demographic I think they just shot themselves in the foot. The 13-18 demographic is like, 40% of games revenue, and companies no longer now have the incentive to do business there. I think more likely are Indian and Latin America will soak up that industry money. Latin america already has the tech infrastructure to compete with eastern europe, and its rabid fan culture will eat it all up. India has some of the fastest internet speeds in the world in urban centers, and with a 1 billion population on par with China, it seems the jucier target now.
There is no shortage of indie games and small-to-medium-scale games coming out quite frequently on PC. I don't think we're in hot water just yet, but I do think a lot of AAA studios definitely have already gone past that point already.
China already hamstrung their gaming economy by making it illegal to play more than like one hour a day
Fun fact: In recent years, there are children in Brazil that are starting to speak english first, even before portuguese (the native language) even if their parents don't speak english at all thanks to youtube.
I started playing mobile games this year on budget gaming phone and it's actually kinda fun now. It's improved a boatload from 5 years ago
It is kinda odd seeing him react to MatPat/Game Theory here for some reason, but this is a very interesting video overall by him and it is crazy to see how gaming is so different in other countries other than just the west, and Japan. I do feel like MatPat is speaking a lot of facts here
I am so intrigued Matt thinks RUclips Poops are bottom level iceberg material, shit was fuckin hilarious as a kid
I mean he was talking about popularity, not quality. But yeah, yt poops were the real shit
he's a normie at worst and a reddit tier tard at best. He doesn't know the really weird shit out there.
Iam still surprised to see that the video "Darth Sand" has only a couple million views or the video where Tommy Wiseauo is a Jedi hunter killing every one with only 2.5 Mio views. It's a masterpiece
Can I give a Brazillian perspective on a portion of this video?
First, I'm shocked you guys never heard of Free Fire. It's not massive or anything around these parts, but it is sizeable.
Anyways, to the points I wanted to talk about:
1 - Minimum Wage: The conversion makes our situation seems a bit worse than it is because the current USD-BRL ratio is fucked due to our incompetent president and the way our country handled Covid. Costs of living don't fluctuate *that* strongly based on the USD exchange, so while things certainly have been felt, I'd say a better figure for you guys to understand would be a 1-to-3 ratio between BRL and USd - so I'd say you should interpret our minimum wage as something closer to 300 USD. Still pretty bad, I'm sure, but still.
2 - South Americans being fanatical: Yeah, I've actually been thinking about this lately, because two weeks ago a brazillian content creator on Twitch made the biggest tabletop RPG stream ever (Cellbit's "A Ordem Paranormal"/"The Paranormal Order"), and I've been thinking precisely of how much our public gets engaged on things despite being a fraction of the total pool of viewers out there. And I think the answer is: You US folk are born in a world that treats you as kings. There's literally a name to this phenom - American Exceptionalism. For you guys, being number one is expected, is things being normal. It's tuesday. And every movie, book and piece of media reinforces that notion Meanwhile, I can't speak for all South American countries, but Brazil has a very strong "self-estheem" issue so to speak. You don't have movies about Brazillians saving the world. We too grow on the movies about the exceptional feats of other countries and not ours. And thus we tend to latch on very strongly on things when we perform well. This can notably be seen on sports - soccer is huge here because it's an area we know we dominate. MMA got huge here on the back of Anderson Silva's reign. Formula One was big in the 90s due to Ayrton Senna. And I think this new generation is doing something similar with content creators - which explains why we get so passionate when we find someone we vibe with.
Hope this has been an interesting read for whoever does so. Have a great day, drink some water and don't forget that you are loved.
Hey~ Un compañero brazileño~
Y si tienes razon que en Sudamerica cuando la gusta algo se vuelven locos por eso cada pais tiene un nombre para eso.
Yeah im not playing any of these super monetized mobile games no matter how much more connected the world becomes. I'm not at all surprised that some of the world's most popular games are mobile games you've never heard of that are popular in developing countries with massive populations lol.
ded at india like server he logged onto. ded. bravo asmon, bravo
I am Indian. I am just glad to see asmon talk about us. :)
@@guneel9379 we are everywhere man lol
I'm shorting today
Cheers from Brazil 💗 i start play FF 14 because of you and your vídeos with zelpa!
My friend is Chinese and she told me she plays a MOBA game on her phone all the time. She told me it was really popular in China and showed me the game. I didn't know it was Honor of Kings at the time (because of translation), but then looked it up and that was it. A lot of players on there use their real life selfie pic as their profile picture and I was super surprised at how many girls were playing it each game. They even have a "Live" feature like Tiktok and there were a ton of popular female streamers. I was super fascinated and surprised - so that China statistic on female gamers seems valid to me.
Asmon embracing the "Come to Brazil" crowd
As he should, after all we could just kidnap him if he didn't cooperate
17:32 tbf, you could... Just not spend. The game's difficulty revolves around the player's level, but the same goes with the drop rate.
At the end of the day, you could finish the 3 chapters (so far) with the main 4 characters the game gives you.
Limited time 5 * weapons and units are only obtainable with in-game premium currency, which you could get from missions, but it's not mandatory.
Someone tell this man about Wendigoon and his top fuckin notch iceberg videos. The conspiracy theory iceberg melted my brain (but in a good way.)
Yes! That dude is awesome
lol free fire here is just a normal thing in brazil and americans are like
HOLY SHIT WHAT TYPE OF ANCIENT ARTIFACT IS THIS
You can definitely play genshin with no money investment if you farm a bit, not even a lot. Money skips waiting times as in farming times and stuff)
If only Asmon has Genshin friend that can get him play genshin. Most of his viewer really hate Genshin but after Asmon played it & said good, his viewer will change based on him lol
Bom vídeo, bem contemplativo, com boas opiniões e ganhou um pouco mais do meu respeito por fazer o que eu pensava ser apenas um capricho (falar inglês com uma semântica mais fácil de entender) pensando não só em outros falantes nativos de inglês mas também em pessoas como nos.
Good video, It was contemplative, with good and well-thought opinions, and get a little more respect of me for speaking English clearly for all who can read English at least have an understanding of the content.
O Asmon não mente quando diz que gosta do público de outras regiões. Eu já tive um debate com ele sobre MMOs pelo chat da twitch na epoca que ele era "pequeno" e, apesar do meu inglês ser horrivel na época, ele não fez chacota nem nada. Assisto ele de desde então, o cara é fera
Eu não tinha ideia que o asmon tinha um publico brasileiro tão grande, na hora que citou brasil no video o chat ficou praticamente todo em português kkkkk, meu inglês não é tão avançado, mas consigo entender muito do que ele diz tbm, ele me ajuda demais na evolução do meu inglês.
Sopa do macaco uma delicia
Agreed. Not everyone can afford high-end PC or consoles, or fast internet connection, so you just use what you have. Here in the Philippines, Mobile Legends is super big esp to younger audiences
Ohh my god I haven't heard the name Garena in years.
I remember playing Dota and league on their launcher back in highschool.
19:41 when he said sneaky and just froze. cracked me up. Sneaky could get it, no homo
Shout out to Polish Game Devs bringing awesome titles for the world to enjoy!
hope Hellish Quart's initial story mode launch goes well '.'
Honor of Kings and Arena of Valor are owned by Tencent, which got tired of waiting for Rito to release a mobile version of LoL and made a clone for China.
TLDR the gaming market is gonna turn into apostapocalyptic wasteland of low effort pay to win mobile games with indie games being the highest production value game you can get
Tbh it is already like that, look at wow, the only effort is in making the player spend more money, good gaming will become niche, as it was 20 years ago
@@advogadododiabo6940 I feel as though WoW isn't the best example as it's a beloved game that relies on nostalgia and time investment to get people to keep playing. It only started to become a microtransaction ridden cash grab later down the line.
I think there will always be devs that want to create good games, but unfortunately I think we have and will be hit with more low effort clones that have microtransactions everywhere as there will always be people looking to make a quick buck.
Like 98% of the worlds population can't afford a gaming PC so this makes perfect sense.
Fun fact: If you react to something from Brasil you will be bombarded with brasilian viewers because for some reason we like so see people reacting to things from our country (bonus points if it is food).
13:13 We ALMOST got to see Asmongold land with his face. Nice save my bro. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ngl got a bit upset that he didn't
@@kzkaa. 🤣 Same.
LMAO at the fact that whenever he says "west" he only shows US map.
That’s bc the United States has the monopoly on western games if u paid even slight attention
@@Thelaretus did you even read what I wrote?
@@brig6671 It does not. Uk, France, Canada, Aus are pretty big in gaming industry if you paid even slight attention.
@@omrmajeed name each of their biggest games so we can laugh about how I was right
@@brig6671 All the GTAs, Far Crys, Assassins Creeds, Tom Clancy's Tombraiders, Raymans, Dishonoureds, Just Dances, Baldur Gates and even Goldeneye 007 just to name a few.
Now sush. Go wear a dunce cap and laugh at yourself in the corner. bubye.
Kal Online, Dark Eden... two really slept on mmos of the past.
MatPat is so dishonest blaming the rates at which women play games and the various genre's between china and the us on "discrimination".
like dude, just because women don't play FPS games doesn't mean they're being discriminated against. even asmon was quick to call this out and i'm proud of him for it. China is way more sexist/racist than the US is and they still have way more women playing games. This is how you program people to think a certain way.
He did mention “Look I do not have the answer of this today” mat should maybe say “I think” or something like that but it was not a real statement
Someone else in the comments here pointed out that it could also be due to the recent restrictions on young gamers being put into effect, so the way these kids circumvent the restriction is by playing using a parent's or sibling's credentials (just like in the early 2000s when you'd use your parent's details to make an account on a website), and you can bet that a good chunk of those kids are using their mother's credentials, thus inflating the female demographic statistic. It's not proven, obviously, but it is a plausible reason behind this trend.
If you say FF XIV in Brazil someone will ask "IS THERE A FREE FIRE 14?"
nice to see him wearing the malding shirt
"This isn't a sponsored video, they just paid for me to go to vegas and party and then didn't expect anything else in return"
Asmon, react to Brazilian memes!!! Thats the recipe to gather thousands of brazilians in your streams. PROFIT!
true dood there are brazilians everywhere
I'm starting to understand what blizzard was thinking when they decided to make a mobile diablo game. Unfortunately for them, not everyone in the world likes mobile. There are a lot of them to be sure but none of them were in the audience that day.
More "free to play" games with predatory monetization on the way.......................................................... yay...
humans are stupid
the empire of bald is growing in brazil, the world is the next conquest
all jokes aside though, it's awesome to see you doing so well with your stream bro, and im definitely not the only one who watches for you rather than the game you're playing. listening to you talk about some random obscure thing, or slaying blizzard bs, reacting to a dumb video, playing FF14 and documenting your whole journey...you're great at whatever content you do, and you've helped me get through tough times. i love who you are as a guy, the simple outlook you have on life is amazing and i wish more people were as humble. i never get the vibe that you're stuck up or entitled, whenever i watch you i dont see a micro celebrity or anything like that, what i see is a guy. just a guy, like the rest of us guys, getting through life and trying to have fun in the process. thank you for all the laughs, thank you for being the backdrop to many gaming sessions, thank you for sticking to your beliefs and being honest. keep going big dick and doing what you love, but dont forget to take care of yourself. if you need to take a break, ever, we will always understand and we'll be here waiting when you get back.
China's view on Racism and Sexism: "Can't be racist of sexist if they were never people in the first place"
Lol. Chinese hiatory has a lot of racism and sexism just like us in it but yeah the arrival of communism does seem to not give a fuck about trivial things past how they can keep track of you and make you a meaningful cog in the machine.
Thing that knocks me off *Genshin Impact* is one _cannot reset_ the game back to the beginning.
When I initially launched the game on my laptop - which was so poorly optimised and lousy Gefore MX150 - the intro video couldn't keep up and essentially was a _blank screen_ .By the time the laptop caught its breath to render something, I was already in the game world. With no means to restart, I had no idea what the initial context of the story is.
Was forced to watch other people's recording to get an idea what i missed on my own computer.
You can in fact play Genshin for free, LOL. A lot of streamers make a point of playing F2P.
But it's promotion of a gacha game. Just because the streamer swears off paying doesn't mean the followers don't get milked.
Better idea is to play a game with ethical monetization, and not have to grapple with the issue.
True. I always say there are 3 ways to play the game - 1. free to play (hard mode), 2. with Welkin that costs 5,5€ month (normal mode), 3 whaling (easy mode)
@@kmurphy0620 0 parts of Genshin are P2W... Someone literally posted a 36* Abyss clear with 0 pulls made from day 1. So if you're getting milked, you made a decision to sink money in. There are a lot of players who don't spend money at all or spend like $5 a month. XIV is $14 a month. I don't see the difference, frankly.
@@leaflaurel looked it up, and you pay real money to recruit and power up with the ability to spend thousands. You compare that to a subscription?! Stupid opinion. Don't marry a game and avoid these copium responses.
You can get 36* with 4* chars if you invest in them properly. That means focus on specific chars. Lots fo ppl level too many chars and all of them are subpar since resources are limited. If you properly lvl 2 carries with crowns you can get at least 33* in Abyss.
Funfact: you can buy gun skins that literally boost your damage with real money in Freefire.
Hey Mr. Asmongold, can you explain to me how technology improving will lower latency ? The minimum *possible* ping time between Sao Paulo and Tokyo is 296 milliseconds. It doesn't matter how good technology gets, you're not going to get ping times that violate the speed of light.
candy crush women statistic was surprising but logical, i dont think anyone has ever seen someone playing it that wasn't someone's mom or aunt
I can assure you Asmon you do have South America audience, take it from me that lives on Ecuador and watch your videos every day.
True, I am from Honduras and love watching his videos
The fact that I could play games with people from all over the world is what got me into online gaming in the first place.
I'm from brazil, love your streams and videos, I actually started playing FF because of you maan!!
Tu é fodaa mano, parabéns, e não para não! 👊🏻🇧🇷
It’s mostly China and Indian games that are that big. Also the trends from Asian countries coming to the Us will suck. It focuses on accessibility and devices that everyone has. Mobile games.
It’s why blizzard went with Diablo Immortal
So MatPat is lecturing me about how china is more inclusive to women then THE WEST?!?!
We might be somewhat divided in ideology in the west. But there's no better place to be a women then in Western Nations.
This is ridiculous, but Matpat is allowed his opinion... even if its dumb as sht opinion
Based king
When a lack of knowledge and preconceived notions formed by ideological nonsense unite they can cause you to believe the most incoherent bullshit.
Literally talking about a country where it's residents were aborting their female children because of the 1 child limit and kept trying until they got a boy. Truly absurd to say what MatPatt said.
Gaming industry =/= society
A lot of Chinese girls/women play games, because it's already ingrained in their society. (Why do you think they are putting restrictions on play times? During the 2010 and before there was a lot of cases of teenager being obsessed by games and parents (both men and women) so obsessed to the point of forgettting/abusing their kids)
There is many Chinese games that appeals to both men and women but will never be published outside of China/Asia.
Unlike to the west in which gaming was seen for a long time as a "male" thing, to the point of feminist groups being angry that most of players are male while in China games are just seen as a thing that anyone can play.
Heck there is more "female" oriented games (be it fighting, rpg, etc) than there is in the west. Finding a game about fighting and rpg that is really about a girl main character and quarter to the female demographic first, there is not a lot in the west, most of them are from Asia, or kids games.
This is not an opinion, simply facts.
Again:
Gaming industry =/= society
Just like how reading manga is not seen as childish thing than in the west
@@narudayo5053 I can see English might not be your first language or maybe you're coming to a conclusion based on something nonexistent in my comment.
I never said the Gaming industry = society.
I didn't even talk about gaming lol
My point was way more general:
"Western Culture IS, HAS, or will ever be the greatest culture that fosters the most possibilities Regardless of Sex, ethnicity, or socioeconomic background.
My sister is a grandmaster League player. Up until she started going to tournaments, she kept her gender a secret due to how toxic the playerbase is towards woman. When she started college on got accepted onto the university esports team, the rest of the team (all male) completely shunned her despite her being the highest ranked person in the group. I can guarantee that A: the toxicity of these playerbases plays a major role in discrepancies of which gender plays which genre more, and B: A vary large portion of that "90% male playerbase" is actually women who pretend to be men on their accounts to avoid harassment
god i still hate game theory everything is still just poorly researched and jumping to false conclusions. like he states some stats he found and than immediate starts making up bullshit from those stats.
It's just content. I love how it started with a teaser about unknown games (that are seriously not that unknown) and went straight to the assumption that we don't have a free market in the west, we force people of different genders to play X games through advertising and if it's not 50/50 - there's some sexism involved.... erm, no. Even if the genders were exactly equal financially, in interests, temperament, upbringing and hormones... it still wouldn't be equal, and there isn't always a good fresh game available for all markets so even from a developer standpoint you will never be able to make a fair test, and why should you, unless you're obsessed with gender to start with? Just let people play games.
@@f.r8580 I think in the west it's just more pointed towards males because when computers were being devoloped and the internet was becoming a thing it was mainly nerds and geeks (mainly men) who were into computers where other countries tend to obtain all these things at once and isn't slowly developed by nerds and geeks and so the gaming market is differnt. In the US it's mostly hardcore gamers vs casual gamers where in say Korea or China it's more Older generation hates video games with a passion because it gets in the way of the kids going to school for 16 hrs a day and the younger generation finds video games as a great escape and so all the younger generation flocks to video games where in the US parents might not like video games in general they don't outright hate it and though children might find video games as an escape there aren't many parents trying to force there kids to be at school for 16 hrs a day or pressuring there kids to learn the violin until there fingers bleed and with how the market of computers devoloped in the US I think it makes sense that more males play these "hardcore games".
Then he also doesn't seem to realize that honor of kings is basically China's mobile version of League of legends and wild rift is the mobile version outside of China and he was trying to make the argument that they make games differently there that attract females more but I don't think the population of females wild rift would be the same as honor of kings and they are the same game I think and if they were similiar it would probably have something to do with them being mobile games instead of something to do with sexism.
the bottom of the youtube iceberg is the massive captain picard ring that youtube has never done anything about
Brazillian here, love your streams!!
lots of us speak fluent english here! :D
I played WoW with a guy from Argentina, and he ended up coming to America to visit the guys in my guild (we were all in high school together). Such a cool experience :)
17:05 I played through the entire main story without spending anything. The game gives you enough to play it through and you can grind most of the things you want including characters. When you want those characters completely maxed out it's gonna take some money tho or an unrealistic amount of time.
I mean the game is still made with spending money in mind so unless you want to intentionally play the game slowly and be gatekeeped by systems intentionally designed to slow the game down you will have to pay money and all the good content that people like the most is gate kept by money as well. That's like if all the new League champions requires you to spend thousands of dollars and then they happened to also be the most op champions and the funniest to play and even if you could get a high league rank with regular f2p champions it would really hinder the fun of the game.
@@andrews9695 All the good content people like the most can be played on a mobile while shitfaced with your feet. Exploration > Story > > > "challenging content" (usually just a low effort DPS check circle room with a bunch of enemies). You can, if you choose to, never increase the difficulty of your world from the original state. Not that it matters because the content was designed with mobile in mind.
Main way game pushes you to spend money are the new characters... Which doesnt really matter from difficulty standpoint because 3 best characters (and 2 of them best by a long, long shot) are lower rarity units that are given for free from time to time. You want them either for the character, story or booba, very rarely for gameplay reasons.
Don't get me wrong, it's a degenerate gambling simulator with insane pricetags but it tries to milk you in a very specific way.
This is actually a real issue. I have played Maplestory (a Korean Nexon game) off and on since launch in 2003, and have never came across a stream or had a video directed to me on any platform. Most recently had a friend that travelled to Korea, and found out it is like a right of passage to Korean teenagers, alot like runescape was or minecraft is now. To this day I still dont understand how a massively popular game has zero spotlight, even though it is very popular in North America.
U can Play genshin without spending money if u want to Explore not tryhard
Still leaves a smelly taste of feces that almost every character is behind a pay wall which is prolly what asmon was referring to
@@scribblord2970 Laughs in Enviosity who played almost entire year and was clearing entire content with only basic characters, saving for his waifu. As a small fish (30$ spent on BPs over the Genshin's lifespan), I was still able to pull a lot of characters. They are more time gated than paywall gated. If you missed someone, you just need to wait for re-run banner.
Honestly, the game gives you a bunch of rolling chances throughout the story mode and the events, you may not get the most hyped character or that specific one you wanted without spending money, but you will definetely have rolled 3-4 legendary characters as a f2p, and there are a lot of videos on how to build even the basic characters of the start of the game to do endgame content. I enjoyed the hell out of this game for months without spending a dime but the grind for artifacts and upgrade itens got me bored after that
@@JayceCH. If you call Genshin's (heck, MHY's) gacha system as the worst system you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, guess I'll keep inhaling that copium then, it's tasty. They have pity system so you are sure to get 5* drop after 70-90 pulls, and you get ~40-50 free pulls each patch. Worst gacha system? Go look no further than F/GO, which is infamous for abyssmal drop chances and no pity, you can burn 10k $ and not get anything out of it.
Direct comparison of wages to USA is stupid as cost of living is very very cheap in these countries.
Im always amaze of how asmon says how can they play this, it have sh** grafics, and then he played Worl of Warcraft for 15 years that lets face it it does not have that amazing grafics
@@cattysplat WOW Classic it has a art style that Is right but WOW did not, the grafics that it has are the evolution of years of little ugrades by upgrades, and becouse of that it does not have a "good grafics" has asmon refer to.
@@cattysplat well that is true, what i mean is that generally games that asmon says that have bad grafics also habe a art style so is kind of dump XD
@@freakbeta8815 Idk, i personally find games like WoW that don't go for a realistic look to be easier to consider as good in their artstyle compared to games that try to look realistic but end up looking kind of like a kid's plastic toy set.
@@Arkanna96 yeah i know, what i was trying to say is that ther is games that have a art style and they look good like wow but asmon says that looks like shit
11:24 famous last words. Just go talk to the battlefield community lol 😂
17:00 .. people not knowing that you don't have to spend a dime and you can beat the hardest content in the game, also mihoyo gives enough ingame currency for you to get lucky and grab yourself some better weapons or more character (that you will not use later on either way since you already have too many of them xD)
enough currency to get lucky hmmm
Come to Brasil , we have hair transplant.
Oh, "Don't hug me, Im scared" Is this cute stop-motion series, totally worth a watch
AHHHHGGGGGGG
Hey, I'm from Argentina, Garena is pretty popular here and in Latino America in general, same with Mobile Legends (copy of LoL), the amount of people that play mobile games is constantly increasing, and most of them are kids and they watch everyday, gameplays on RUclips and thats why the games are so popular in RUclips, millions of kids are watching that.
The reason western gaming audiences are the way they are, is due to the McConnell effect.
"I'm not going to play a weeb game"
What's the girl equivalent for not playing MOBA?
@@corvoattano8567 "i hate getting shat on by basement dwellers"
@@corvoattano8567 “I didn’t think it was possible, but I was somehow molested through a text chat in a video game by men with no chins.”
That's the thing i don't like on twitch chat most of the time. Little cartoon = weeb yep that's twitch chat
"Black dude fell into a washing machine and a Chinese dude came out of it" ....
8:50 i'm brazilian, free fire and LoL they exterminated players of various styles of games, for being accessible and light, it works on any cell phone, besides the fact that we have Dj Alok as a character, i live in the same city where Alok was born, Goiânia-Goiás!
if you put a game ad on a five year olds phone they will click it
Asmon reconociendo que la gente de LATAM siempre sigue a capa y espada a sus streamers fue un momento de luz hacia nosotros
You can enjoy genshin impact without paying a cent. That’s so nice about it, you don’t have to gacha gamble anything to progress (but you get ALL recources from playing and events anyway)
I always watch your content Asmon,
One thing I'd like to add here is the mentality change in the social groups the old "targeting" applied to.
I'm nearly 40. In my youth girls were not interested in chasing after a ball or riding a scateboard. Princeses, models, my little ponies and barbie dolls, those were girls' interests.
10 years later, when I reached a marriagable age, youg women didn't like games because games were the thing that their boyfriends/husbands were wasting time on instead of fawning over them. Untill they tried playing themselves.
Now when I go past a primary school I see a bunch of teenage girls running on a soccer field together with the boys.
Times change, mentality changes. And so the market has no choice but to adapt.
There absolutely could be social reasons certain games are more popular among men in the west.
It probably isn't just MatPat's top-down forced bullshit.
Women are underrepresented in "hardcore" gaming at least partially because women as a large group don't get on board with anything unless it's popular and culturally incentivised with way less women being willing to do what is considered "niche" or "nerdy" than men. If MatPat can just claim that is the explanation of the numbers, so can I.
11:25 You already are! We are amidst you
Só tem uma questão nesse vídeo que me deixa curioso. Certa vez vi uma pesquisa dizendo que em torno de 5% dos brasileiros sabem inglês, e apenas 1% é fluente. Então, como CARALHOS tem tanto brasileiro assistindo o Asmon e outros streamers gringos? Só quem sabe inglês aqui no br é quem joga? To confuso demais.
By the way, i loved the amount of Easter Eggs that Absolute Pixel put onto the video showing Sea of Thieves
Videogames sempre foram um incentivo e uma forma pra aprender inglês huahahah entao as chances desses 5% tambem serem os 5% que gostam de videogames é alta
Porque 5% equivalem há 10 milhões de pessoas e 1% a 2 milhões.
Exatamente
Rio, SP, talvez sul salvam, centro-oeste, note e nordeste, praticamente ninguém fala inglês, estou morando a 10 anos em Belém, se conheci 10 pessoas fluentes em inglês foi muito