@@alboud 💜💯☮ Godless comrade. When she does enter your life; I hope she is a blessing and a joy to your life, genuinely. From experience that is important. Because converse is soul draining.
I’m 57 and I do too! I also spend my days running up and down ladders and scaffolding and find that flexibility has been so very important for me with regard to some of the ways I have to stretch in order to reach areas on a project.
How is it wild? He’s educated on kinesiology, anatomy & physiology AND patient care aka customer service & teaching. This is also why people should not be taking advice from randos on social media who haven’t done the work to actually be teaching on the topics they’re speaking on. Clearly there’s a huge difference in understanding.
Gait is a complicated topic affected by bone length, upper spine posture, weight, hip, knee, ankle, foot flexibility and strength. Many people walk with external foot rotation. I always thought it had to do with deep6 muscle tightness which potentially is caused by muscle weakness or tighten. This comment section is quickly filling up with opinions and anecdote that may or may not have accurate reasoning for each specific anecdote much less the whole pattern. Gait is a very complex topic.
People have all the above though. They dont focus on certain joints and muscles in the body. They walk too much and don't care how they step or like to workout. Like not stepping with ur big toe first. Pretty sure that's what you're supposed to do. Or its spine related or weight related.
Yeah like you I wouldn't listen to much of it but it is completely true how you mentioned about muscle weakness. Depending on which muscle it can give a whole slew of issues. In my personal experience pelvic floor muscle weakness and atrophy is maybe the worst since it's the trunk of your body tree, ya know.
@@mesa9724 no, my hip mobility is way worse than i wish it were. i can lay flat on my back in that W shape and stand back up with my entire body straight. my quads are very stretchy but hamstrings arent
They're still meant to wear more uniformly. Everyone will have a little asymmetry but it won't look like someone held up the soles to a grinding wheel.
@@nickthompson1812true, but the pattern presented in the video is not controversial among professionals. podiatrists often ask clients areas where their shoes wear most significantly to derermine over or under pronation can be a possibility. the video demonstrates it quite well
The key is to stretch and strengthen external rotation to balance out internal rotation flexibility and strength. I’m so glad this channel addresses that w sitting is a myth I’m very impressed ❤
I think of course there is no "forbidden" posture. however, there is such a thing as a default, and if a kid finds it easier to W sit, because he can't stabilise with hips externally rotated, it might be worth it to remind him every once in a while to adapt that sitting position without making a big deal out of it.
If your kid has hip dysplasia, w sitting may prevent proper hip joint development around femur head which may cause dislocated hips or osteoarthiritis in hips in the future. It is a serious condition and may require an operation called asetabular osteotomy. Most of the kids grow out of it but it does not mean that w sitting is harmless. It depends on the condition that your kid is in. Calling this as a myth is an overstatement.
So many people don't know about the W shaped sitting position. 3 benefits you'd get in your adult years if you were sitting in a W shaped a lot as a child: 1) 2) 3) Liu Kang's bicycle kick
She goes through shoes the same reason I do - I’m very active on my feet, I have super high arches and my feet are skinny and boney. The pad of your feet chew through the insides. My shoes always have good tread on the bottom but the insides look all tore up.
It is a shame that there is so much misinformation from "influencers" who don't research properly. This is how cognitive dissonance works. In the face of genuine contradiction, people go on believing the myth.
This is so interesting! I'm mega limited on the flexibility/mobility and I can't do this anymore despite it being my default way of sitting as a child, and something I could still do if I tried as a teenager. BUT I recall being the only one in my class who did sit like this so I didn't realise how common my situation was until I saw this!
W sitting is quite stable and requires less balance and core strength required for walking and balance during daily tasks such as getting dressed. This is why it is discouraged in small children during early development as it can cause physical development delay.
Fair enough but can you perhaps expand on this with regards to ice hockey goalies who utilize the butterfly? I as well as most modern ice hockey goalies today utilize the butterfly as well as RVH and many different coaches and physio trainers have different exercises and stretches to develop / maintain hip mobility. Perhaps the most notable is Maria Mountain who a lot of pros work with in the off season. Curious as to your thoughts on this as the butterfly and W sitting has a lot of similarities and there have been arguments in the past that youth goalies utilizing the butterfly maneuver will end up with hip issues.
I took my daughter to go see an orthopedic doctor who said its totally normal, and some may even benefit from this functional habit as footballers! Who knows!
I am older and still sit like this. I do yoga twice a week with zero problems with development and functional deficit. I am also hyper mobile with a strong core
Dude. I sat like that my whole early life n i have at least 5 things wrong with my legs that could be linked to it. Knock knees, pigeon toes, bunions, low arches, misalined hips. Of and last year hip bursitis developed in both hips. My legs fucking hurt.
I stopped sitting on my feet, or doing the w sit, or sitting on butt with feet tucked under to one side, and have better leg days most days. I do leg exercises from YT to strengthen but i probably should see a pt of some sort.
@squatuniversity so would it also be true that sitting indian style for years won't do damage either? Like it's just the opposite way of hip rotation but the same principle? Thanks a lot 😊😊
She drags her heels a lot I'm sure . All the same motion. I got ran over as a kid. Got hit on my ride side running across the street. Now I walk funny , my hips always popping in and out. Im sure it's when I got hit as a kid
.....sitting like that in your teens your bones/cartilage WILL develope and mature in positions you use most, kind of why this younger generation developed a NEW symptom called text neck. If that weren't true posture wouldn't affect your spine, knees, HIPS, ankles etc. Why would physical therapy even exist let alone chiropractics? When you have a severe break, resulting in nerve damage, torn muscle/tendon, or pinched nerve, physical therapy is MANDATORY, if you want to regain a full range of motion again, or close too. This doctor is contradictory as hell. He has plenty of videos stating not to do something. Then releases other videos about doing the very things he states not to do
my mum is a pediatrician and podiatrist and w sitting is definitely has negative consequences. Maybe not in young kids but definitely prevent it once a kid is last preschool age.
@@technolus5742 Read the article. It suggests w sitting has no correlation to hip issues. But issues with tibial internal torsion or femoral anteversion can occur. and recommends to limit w sitting if a child doesn't grow out of it. Not so big now keyboard warrior. 🤡
@@technolus5742 rigghhht, read the article, it says theres no correlation between w sitting and hip issues or arm mobility. But does suggest w sitting can lead to issues in internal tibial torsion or femoral anteversion. and even recommends to limit w sitting in kids who don't grow out of it. But hey, the study "contradicts my claim" 🤦♂
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Shout out sasscarella/TT for the opening stitched video.
Sidenote, it is cute when my GF W sits.
Who else agrees, when it comes to their gf W siting?
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@@SchwarzSchwertkampfer I have to worry about getting a gf first before worrying about her sitting position
@@alboud
💜💯☮ Godless comrade.
When she does enter your life; I hope she is a blessing and a joy to your life, genuinely.
From experience that is important.
Because converse is soul draining.
@@SchwarzSchwertkampferconverse you mean the shoe?
I’m in my 50s and I can still sit like this 😂
Same here! I’m 45
Yo también
@tonimartini9 same here and I'm 69
You sir are a super hero
I’m 57 and I do too! I also spend my days running up and down ladders and scaffolding and find that flexibility has been so very important for me with regard to some of the ways I have to stretch in order to reach areas on a project.
the way you debunked her bs so professionally is wild,keep up the great work bro!
How is it wild? He’s educated on kinesiology, anatomy & physiology AND patient care aka customer service & teaching. This is also why people should not be taking advice from randos on social media who haven’t done the work to actually be teaching on the topics they’re speaking on. Clearly there’s a huge difference in understanding.
Thank you for adding in research articles! 🙌🏼
Makes his videos even more of a gem
Yup, it helps ground the credibility (as well as helping us realise that others are just using purely anecdotal evidence)
So true and not often done
So you actually read them and verify it?
Her hips are what 💀
At last someone noticed
💀💀💀bruh
😂
😆😂🤣💀
@@gaurangarya329everyone noticed
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! This IS my young daughter, and I'm so glad I found this video. It is so comforting to watch and have a better understanding 🙏🫶🥲
Tell your daughter to stop BS-ing on the internet.
She's got a potty mouth
Gait is a complicated topic affected by bone length, upper spine posture, weight, hip, knee, ankle, foot flexibility and strength. Many people walk with external foot rotation. I always thought it had to do with deep6 muscle tightness which potentially is caused by muscle weakness or tighten.
This comment section is quickly filling up with opinions and anecdote that may or may not have accurate reasoning for each specific anecdote much less the whole pattern.
Gait is a very complex topic.
People have all the above though. They dont focus on certain joints and muscles in the body. They walk too much and don't care how they step or like to workout. Like not stepping with ur big toe first. Pretty sure that's what you're supposed to do. Or its spine related or weight related.
Gyaatttt!!!
How TF u gonna step with your big toe first 😂😂😂@@connergalles7106
Yeah like you I wouldn't listen to much of it but it is completely true how you mentioned about muscle weakness. Depending on which muscle it can give a whole slew of issues. In my personal experience pelvic floor muscle weakness and atrophy is maybe the worst since it's the trunk of your body tree, ya know.
Nuance! In this day and age?
i had been sitting like this for years and my knee mobility is super huge and my hips arent fucked
?
@@Nada-po7su what do you not understand here? me sit W shape. me have good knee mobility. me hips good.
Good knee mobility? I think it’s hip mobility you’re talking about.
You hips not fucked? Thats good.
@@mesa9724 no, my hip mobility is way worse than i wish it were. i can lay flat on my back in that W shape and stand back up with my entire body straight. my quads are very stretchy but hamstrings arent
Holding up terrible qualities shoes as proof that you go through shoes fast is a take.
They're still meant to wear more uniformly. Everyone will have a little asymmetry but it won't look like someone held up the soles to a grinding wheel.
At the end of the day, people are always trying to draw patterns where there are none.
@@nickthompson1812true, but the pattern presented in the video is not controversial among professionals. podiatrists often ask clients areas where their shoes wear most significantly to derermine over or under pronation can be a possibility. the video demonstrates it quite well
Ewe huemans are cliché clones programmed backwards 👁️ @@loonasfirstdisciple
@ChucksSEADnDEAD ...Chucks...really...
Hit her with the research conclusion. Ouch.
The key is to stretch and strengthen external rotation to balance out internal rotation flexibility and strength. I’m so glad this channel addresses that w sitting is a myth I’m very impressed ❤
I still sit like this as an adult and it causes zero problems
I just find it very comfortable
Weird but cool, I tried and failed haha
@@3chl986 me too
Me too and I’m 57.
It was never an issue about hips, it's about knee valgus, especially with girls.
I'm a middle aged man and I've incorporated w-sitting in my stretches this year because my hip range of motion is garbage. 😂
My shoes wear out like that too thought it was normal.
It is. People over complicate anything and blame others. Even if it's for a dumb video
Some degree of it is probably normal. I dunno about hers though...
@peacebewu ya mine isn't as bad as hers but when I go get my boots resoled it's the outside that's always more worn never really thought about it
The wear is from carpets, when people pull their feet in.
I think of course there is no "forbidden" posture. however, there is such a thing as a default, and if a kid finds it easier to W sit, because he can't stabilise with hips externally rotated, it might be worth it to remind him every once in a while to adapt that sitting position without making a big deal out of it.
If your kid has hip dysplasia, w sitting may prevent proper hip joint development around femur head which may cause dislocated hips or osteoarthiritis in hips in the future. It is a serious condition and may require an operation called asetabular osteotomy. Most of the kids grow out of it but it does not mean that w sitting is harmless. It depends on the condition that your kid is in. Calling this as a myth is an overstatement.
Her: My hips are fked....
Also her: *scuffing her heels as she walks*
😩😓 😂😂
I can still sit like this
I am going to be 40 next year and I still sit like this and I don’t have any problems whatsoever
He really slam dunked missinformation respectfully
I tried this. I'm typing this from my hospital bed😢
Did you use your will to power?
At 38, I still sit in a W because it is still comfortable. I’m also hyper mobile, so it’s just par for the course.
Called her out!
So many people don't know about the W shaped sitting position. 3 benefits you'd get in your adult years if you were sitting in a W shaped a lot as a child:
1)
2)
3) Liu Kang's bicycle kick
So this is how old wives tale ( misinformation) spreads
Through tiktok 😂
She goes through shoes the same reason I do - I’m very active on my feet, I have super high arches and my feet are skinny and boney. The pad of your feet chew through the insides. My shoes always have good tread on the bottom but the insides look all tore up.
Ok but babies got that posterior chain strength like crazy.
My toddler has the strongest legs and hinge, it defies belief
As a child, I was "W" sitting, now in 40s, I face knee issues, clinically they are good, I experience pain, not sure if "W" sitting was the cause
For adults:
W sitting is an L
L sitting is a W
31 this year, mom of 3, I still W sit 😅
I took it a step further and sat on my foot sideways, now my foot can turn 180
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
It is a shame that there is so much misinformation from "influencers" who don't research properly.
This is how cognitive dissonance works. In the face of genuine contradiction, people go on believing the myth.
I am in my late 30s and just sat like this for the first time all year after viewing this short
I still sit like this and I'm 29... I could never comfortably sit in a pretzel either😅
She looked like a lier. Ty for confirming my suspicions
The girl at the beginning looks like a know-it-all.
I'd been told several tears ago by a pediatric OT that it wasn't about the hips but rather that position weakened the abdominal wall. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
The biggest concern with W sitting is lack of core engagement during childhood….. or at least that’s my understanding.
This is so interesting! I'm mega limited on the flexibility/mobility and I can't do this anymore despite it being my default way of sitting as a child, and something I could still do if I tried as a teenager. BUT I recall being the only one in my class who did sit like this so I didn't realise how common my situation was until I saw this!
W sitting is quite stable and requires less balance and core strength required for walking and balance during daily tasks such as getting dressed. This is why it is discouraged in small children during early development as it can cause physical development delay.
It gives them perfect leverage to play on the floor without rounding their spine
Bro is going crazy with captions and thumbnails 💀
I love your videos ,You're so inspiring, keep up all the amazing work you're doing❤😊❤😊
Stupid Physical education class.. I can personally vouch for this.
Waiting for the repost. 😂
That's actually the proper gate and wear of shoes
I am working to get *back* into that position as we speak 💀
I sat like this and had no hip problems… lol
Fair enough but can you perhaps expand on this with regards to ice hockey goalies who utilize the butterfly? I as well as most modern ice hockey goalies today utilize the butterfly as well as RVH and many different coaches and physio trainers have different exercises and stretches to develop / maintain hip mobility. Perhaps the most notable is Maria Mountain who a lot of pros work with in the off season. Curious as to your thoughts on this as the butterfly and W sitting has a lot of similarities and there have been arguments in the past that youth goalies utilizing the butterfly maneuver will end up with hip issues.
A video on the solution to Sasscarella's condition would be helpful.
It not a myth. My daughter's orthopedist is counseling us about our daughter and not letting her w sit , cause hip rotation and damage
Considering it has no basis on the facts, it's a myth no matter who says it.
I’ve never heard of that! I’ve seen babies do it but I didn’t know it was a thing 😅
Her issues are others
Good news for every Japanese girl in every poster ever
I tagged you in her video, telling her to see if there’s anything helpful, and now here’s a video dedicated to her 😂
I took my daughter to go see an orthopedic doctor who said its totally normal, and some may even benefit from this functional habit as footballers! Who knows!
I love how uneducated tiktokers give live advice with such confidence
The issue is the Converse shoes, they're crap and fit pretty much everyone awkwardly. I say this as a Converse user and a fan
The physical therapists that I took my preemie twins to literally told me to stop them from w sitting as it would mess up THEIR KNEES
Kids move naturally, until we limit them and make them sit for hours a day. Go play. Be happy.
It makes you more flexible
Never did I ever sit like this or see children sit like this growing up my first years in a foreign country. Maybe an American Gen Z phenom???
I have zero hip flexibility in every direction.
My hips are misaligned. One of my knees is slightly higher than the other. I have a lot of pain when I run.
My shoes wear out like this… but I have bow legs.
I still sit like this. I do yoga and my hips are not f'd.
I didn't know that I need to know this
I sat and can sit like a w and my shoes are perfectly fine. I can even make my w as wide was I can. Like to freak people out with it lol
This channel knows how to get views. There is always some pretty girl in the thumbnail.
Actually I sat/sit the opposite way (open legs) and have the same shoe problem 🤷🏻♀️ hip joint is too open
sitting like that is weird ngl
Not me i still do ít for 36 years
Its the world famous cute asian girl sitting position
That’s complete bullshit, it’s so good to be able to sit in any position. Who comes up with this
So you're saying that she just needs to go to a physical therapist to remediate something that she's blaming as if it's permanent
W sitting is a concern past a certain age because it can be an indicator of a weak core.
I am older and still sit like this. I do yoga twice a week with zero problems with development and functional deficit. I am also hyper mobile with a strong core
how?
The wear on the shoes is from supination from each footstep. I’m willing to bet she’s got high arches on her feet too.
flat feet dont ruin shoes either lmao shes a goof
Dude. I sat like that my whole early life n i have at least 5 things wrong with my legs that could be linked to it. Knock knees, pigeon toes, bunions, low arches, misalined hips. Of and last year hip bursitis developed in both hips. My legs fucking hurt.
I stopped sitting on my feet, or doing the w sit, or sitting on butt with feet tucked under to one side, and have better leg days most days. I do leg exercises from YT to strengthen but i probably should see a pt of some sort.
By whom?
Yeah the PSA is interesting but wrong reason. Just gotta learn to walk better
Who lets their kids sit like this?
You should add lyrics in the description as it is quite difficult for me to listen and understand your voice
@squatuniversity so would it also be true that sitting indian style for years won't do damage either? Like it's just the opposite way of hip rotation but the same principle? Thanks a lot 😊😊
As a W myself her take was an L
Uhhhh.... what if we never grew out of W sitting? 😅
How do you fix it???
LOL, Miss Dunning Kruger.
She’s a victim, everything is someone elses fault
Why is no one talking about the title?💀
Why wouldn't her shoes show the wear+tear of pronation? this is very silly
W sitting is awful, I hate to say it but my kids doctors and physical therapists disagree youtube guy. One study can kick rocks
She drags her heels a lot I'm sure . All the same motion. I got ran over as a kid. Got hit on my ride side running across the street. Now I walk funny , my hips always popping in and out. Im sure it's when I got hit as a kid
I know because that's how my Jordans would look when I would drag an not lift my feet up right when walking
I have hip dysplasia
I have plantar fasciitis and my shoes do this
Please use simple sentences, because i am confused that should i do that(w sitting) or not ?😢
.....sitting like that in your teens your bones/cartilage WILL develope and mature in positions you use most, kind of why this younger generation developed a NEW symptom called text neck. If that weren't true posture wouldn't affect your spine, knees, HIPS, ankles etc. Why would physical therapy even exist let alone chiropractics? When you have a severe break, resulting in nerve damage, torn muscle/tendon, or pinched nerve, physical therapy is MANDATORY, if you want to regain a full range of motion again, or close too. This doctor is contradictory as hell. He has plenty of videos stating not to do something. Then releases other videos about doing the very things he states not to do
it makes no rational sense how these two things would be connected. what’s the logic ?? i wonder.
my mum is a pediatrician and podiatrist and w sitting is definitely has negative consequences. Maybe not in young kids but definitely prevent it once a kid is last preschool age.
The plural of anecdote is not science
"Definitely" - right after you've been shown a study that contradicts your claim 🤦♂️
@@technolus5742 Read the article. It suggests w sitting has no correlation to hip issues. But issues with tibial internal torsion or femoral anteversion can occur. and recommends to limit w sitting if a child doesn't grow out of it. Not so big now keyboard warrior. 🤡
@@brianwright9514 but the plural of anecdote is data.
@@technolus5742 rigghhht, read the article, it says theres no correlation between w sitting and hip issues or arm mobility. But does suggest w sitting can lead to issues in internal tibial torsion or femoral anteversion. and even recommends to limit w sitting in kids who don't grow out of it. But hey, the study "contradicts my claim" 🤦♂