New Mandela effect - Anyone remember a character called “Haru”? She was introduced near the Okumura arc and was playable party member with physic abilities?! 🤯🤯🤯
@@ped9815 Exactly kind of annoying how often people oversimplify it to the character instead of the design because that leads to misunderstandings like their's
The early concepts are very much in line with the past persona games. However I understand why they chose to go the direction they did. As they settled on the gameplay style and general look of the game as a whole it likely lead to the character designs being reworked to fit in with the world as it existed at that point in development. For instance, looking at the concept art the characters likely would have had lighter hair with sharper silhouettes whether it be through their school uniforms or phantom thief attire. This looks nice at first glance and I think it could work in p4 or p3 as it follows those games styles closely. However in p5 the world and style they went for is much more pop art. Thus having the characters have looser shapes and bolder colored hair and cloths helps sell the style of the game as a whole.
Imma be honest, Mona's current design is better. This one looks kinda creepy to me, and far more devious. The current one looks far more cute honestly, and makes him a TON more likeable in my eyes.
Tbf, in Persona 3 and 4 their clothes never changed. Atlus probably thought the phantom thief outfits not only looked cooler than Shujin's uniform but also makes a ton more sense with the story
Fun fact: the reason Kasumi was drawn with jokers mask is because she was supposed to be playable as a FeMC but Atlus changed their minds about it because of P3P
For anyone who want to know Haru design.. she didn't change much expect instead of wearing the pink puff sweater (?) she wear the normal Shujin black jacket uniform
That, and Ann and Makoto both repeated talk about how much they dislike their outfits. Why give the characters outfits they dislike?! I understand the outfit symbolizes their will of rebellion but wouldn't they get outfits they actually like?
not only does she dislike her outfit, it's also a pretty sexualized one which is ironic bc the her awakening her persona is her rebelling against kamoshida's and his sexual harassment
She was not. A completely different character separate from Makoto was gonna be the tactician of the Phantom Thieves, but that character ended up being mixed with early development Makoto to make the finished Makoto, and the design of that cut character was recycled for Hifumi.
@@Gamaxpit’s A LOT easier to notice in the spin offs - Dancing in Starlight especially but the top half of his head has a black mask on it that covers the entire top of his head with ear and eyeholes - all they had to do to convey this better was either change the texture more or alter it to be a different shade of black to his fur but NOPE
For Ann's current outfit design, I wonder why they didn't make her outfit having mixture of black and red rather than plain red, have some frills or lace in the outfit and rather than those atrocious pink dish washing gloves, it could've been a stylized, maybe lace, black and red gloves with rose patterns. After all, she's a model and also her concept is based around "femme fatale"/"rose with thorns", so I would assume that her outfit should've been feminine+sexy(not the revealing kind of sexy)+fiesty+powerful.
Reasons to love the Modern Persona games: We got concept art We got cool outfits We got talking animals We got people capable of killing gods in one gunshot We sealed our souls away to prevent the darkness The fog is coming the fog is coming the fog is coming
Jokers original persona was the demon from the German story Faust known as Mephistopheles. In the story, Dr Faust makes a deal with the demon allowing him to use his powers, but after a few years, his soul would be given to the devil and forced into eternal enslavement. Which is metal as fuck. Joker was also one of the few cut characters in persona 4 arena and was going to use Mephistopheles as his persona. He has files in the game labels p5 hero, and another cut character is Shadow Marie who would of been a original character like Sho
I like that Ann design a lot more. It always bothered me that, aside from Akechi’s Prince outfit, she was the only one without a mostly black (or dark blue) suit. It was a cool theme among the rest of the designs because, you know, they’re thieves. Kind of a shame that Ann just became more sexualized as development went on.
You can buy the book with all the designs. I was looking through one at the Ryokan I stayed at in Kyoto last march and saw the concept art book and immediately bought one.
Makoto’s mementos design resembles Raidou, kinda wish they went with that, though I’m glad we got someone who just punches shadows rather than someone with another weapon
@@maxiogaming1103 AHAHAHAHA I KNEW THAT YEAH RIGHT I TOTALLY REMEMEMBERD AHAHAHAHAAA NOOO SHHHHHHHHHHH PFFFFFFFFTTTT PFFFFFFFT NAAAH I NAHH I N LISTEN. I- I CAN EXPLAIN
Dayum I would've loved concept art Morgana. Those eyes and the more slender build really add to the vague nature of his origins, and I actually feel that design looked more androgynous than femine, in a good way. Just would've loved the slightly menacing cat guide vibe, looks like it could've had a Mew type character rather than the more mascot esque end result. Morgana kinda feels like teddy but less interesting, that other design could've spiced it up.
i guess morbus makes more sense practically to hold more people, but also a sport car makes a bunch of sense in regards to how morgana even transforms, a sports car's engine purrs and looks way more cat like than a bus imo
I can't help but agree! Though I wonder how their model would've looked like in game, its a bit hard to imagine. Maybe it's because I'm used to the morgana we got
Haru got as much screentime in this video as she did in the real game
YES FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT
@@Gamaxp x3
Not wrong, she was the last character to add, so not surprising
Any others were there just not a party member prior
Best girl nonetheless
Except in royal and Kasumi was added as the last character to recruit
Lmfao the Haru cut is amazing
Just trying my best to stay true to the source material 🙏
@@Gamaxp this joke is fucking gold😭😭
@@rubydearest what joke?
@@thebigm8052 haru has more screen time in this than in the actual game.
@@SebaLu_ I should’ve made it more clear that I was being sarcastic
If I remember correctly, they gave Futaba dyed orange hair because a dark haired suicidal shut in was a bit too depressing
A little too real
Who played persona 3 won't be afraid..
@@appth9099 yeahhhhh but this isn't persona 3, if people want depressing they'll play 3 but ig it didn't flow super well with 5's vibe
I believe it was because atlus thought it was too much of a cliché to give her black hair.
@@appth9099 who said it was for the players and not the overall themes?
That Haru disrespect is very Persona 5-like
Who'd Haru?
@@eldankdogeI would Haru, I would Haru very much
Morganabus makes more sense, what thieves leave the site of the robbery on something as unprotected and slim as a sports car?
it looks cool though, right? aren't the phantom thieves all about style? >:3
i wish he could turn into both that would also be super cool
And we got gapping cat anus as well.
It should have been a skin😔
How would all of them even fit
I'm in love with Yusuke's early design
I knooooooooooow 🥺
big fan of the hair, but everything else that was cut was nothing special
real😭
I would want him to have the long hair but kept it blue
They made him hotter. Somehow.
New Mandela effect - Anyone remember a character called “Haru”? She was introduced near the Okumura arc and was playable party member with physic abilities?! 🤯🤯🤯
Who?
As a Haru fan you’re diabolical
@@Someguy-ze7kpbest girl discrimination can you believe this?
Also Joker was supposed to live with Sae and Makoto instead of Sojiro
Joker was gonna be clapping cheeks
@@TheRealTact HE ALREADY DOES
Joker to Sae: "And then I fxcked your sister."
lucky
And akechi was supposed to be sae's son and makoto's brother.
I'll never forgive them for not adding my girl hifumi to the actual crew and cutting a lot of her content
she was never going to be a part of the crew thoughhhhh
@@Gamaxp from what i recall she actually was, but they actually scrapped it and used the concept with makoto instead
@@Voxite_ That actually make sense. I always the "Queen" didn't really fit Makoto but it would've been perfect for Hifumi
@@Voxite_ Hifumi’s design was meant to be a phantom thief. They recycled it and made a confidant that became Hifumi
@@ped9815 Exactly kind of annoying how often people oversimplify it to the character instead of the design because that leads to misunderstandings like their's
How was 5 people going to fit in a sports car.
Lap
it just gets longer and longer till its a sport limo
Five? More like eight people by the time you reach the Casino palace. And that number goes up to 9 in the extra content from Royal.
The early concepts are very much in line with the past persona games. However I understand why they chose to go the direction they did. As they settled on the gameplay style and general look of the game as a whole it likely lead to the character designs being reworked to fit in with the world as it existed at that point in development. For instance, looking at the concept art the characters likely would have had lighter hair with sharper silhouettes whether it be through their school uniforms or phantom thief attire. This looks nice at first glance and I think it could work in p4 or p3 as it follows those games styles closely. However in p5 the world and style they went for is much more pop art. Thus having the characters have looser shapes and bolder colored hair and cloths helps sell the style of the game as a whole.
Imma be honest, Mona's current design is better. This one looks kinda creepy to me, and far more devious. The current one looks far more cute honestly, and makes him a TON more likeable in my eyes.
It's the head for me. Keeps the unhinged look but since the concept had a smaller head it also looks less goofy
the car shouldve been the sports car tho
Bro imagine what the internet would do to morgana if he has a feminine body😭
@@Doriya678deer god I already imagine the horrid things that is THE PLACE WE DO NOT SPEAK OFF
Futaba's mother's original design was... Haru!? Now I will never see haru the same as before
Persona 5's early stages are truly fascinating... there's so much to talk about!!
I thought Futaba's mother looked a lot like Katherine with black hair
ann’s original pt outfit looks so much better 😭
Fr
If she looked like that she would maybe be in my party instead of being fucking level 20😭
True
True ngl, the pink gloves on her current outfit look so bad 😭
“Joker persona 5 himself”
Kinda like SANS UNDER TALE
Tbf, in Persona 3 and 4 their clothes never changed. Atlus probably thought the phantom thief outfits not only looked cooler than Shujin's uniform but also makes a ton more sense with the story
Yoshizawa's early design which had a heart hole on the shirt is hella cute
I'm STUNNED by this concept art and amazing video!!
Thank YOU sir.
@@Gamaxp thank you you for amazong video
Poor fluffy waifu 😢
Yusuke looked like he wanted to do a rumbling
Man this is an absolute feen of a video, well done!
Actually enjoy current morgana more than concept one
But I miss yusuke and ann from concept art
Yusuke's old design does go hard 😭
@@Gamaxp it goes amazingly well with his personality
My friend said Morgana looked like Bubbles cosplaying as Catwoman 😆
Fun fact: the reason Kasumi was drawn with jokers mask is because she was supposed to be playable as a FeMC but Atlus changed their minds about it because of P3P
It explain the similarities at their outfit black clothes and red gloves and Kasumi persona color is same as Arsene
We were robbed....
For anyone who want to know Haru design.. she didn't change much expect instead of wearing the pink puff sweater (?) she wear the normal Shujin black jacket uniform
im so pissed that ann was done that dirty. she could've had an awesome slick outfit but now she looks like she has a trashy valentines day costume
That, and Ann and Makoto both repeated talk about how much they dislike their outfits. Why give the characters outfits they dislike?! I understand the outfit symbolizes their will of rebellion but wouldn't they get outfits they actually like?
@Kamatari
Director said he had a fetish for women looking embarrassed
@@ShinmegamiPersona Wow, that's creepy!
not only does she dislike her outfit, it's also a pretty sexualized one which is ironic bc the her awakening her persona is her rebelling against kamoshida's and his sexual harassment
@@aaaaaaaafjjdjs Yeah! They definitely sexualized Ann. She's a freaking minor!
A sports car would’ve been so much cooler and thief-like than a post office van. Also rough draft Yusuke is such a baddie
I feel if they go with those designs it would feel a bit old school and serious.
The theme what we have now is really colourful even if it's dark.
@@PlasticDoor141 jeah.
Hifumi was supposed to be a phantom thief, but was cut due to the game already being so long
Didnt they just replace her with Midkoto?
@@vault29a *Makoto
@@kaorinsznah he spelled it right
She was not. A completely different character separate from Makoto was gonna be the tactician of the Phantom Thieves, but that character ended up being mixed with early development Makoto to make the finished Makoto, and the design of that cut character was recycled for Hifumi.
It's so sad, only hope is for a mod to come out to replace her model
Honestly, I prefer the changes... the Persona 5 I know is just to iconic I could never imagine it any other way
Akechi's early design looks cool
I really like morgana design I always thought he looked really goofy with the that weird cat mask looking thing on his head
I still dont know what it is supposed to be💀
@@Gamaxpit’s A LOT easier to notice in the spin offs - Dancing in Starlight especially but the top half of his head has a black mask on it that covers the entire top of his head with ear and eyeholes - all they had to do to convey this better was either change the texture more or alter it to be a different shade of black to his fur but NOPE
Morgana's old design gives me the Lopunny effect and it creeps me out.
AAAAAAH
@@Penguinthief There's no laws against the shadows Joker.
That feeling when concepts in Thieves Den is just character you see but made with pencil
That Haru cut was just...amazing, lol. It's made me laugh out loud, which is not something I often do. I needed that. Thanks
For Ann's current outfit design, I wonder why they didn't make her outfit having mixture of black and red rather than plain red, have some frills or lace in the outfit and rather than those atrocious pink dish washing gloves, it could've been a stylized, maybe lace, black and red gloves with rose patterns. After all, she's a model and also her concept is based around "femme fatale"/"rose with thorns", so I would assume that her outfit should've been feminine+sexy(not the revealing kind of sexy)+fiesty+powerful.
A mix of black and red wouldve went haaaard but also wouldnt it be a little too similar to joker's?
The designs we ended up with are just SO much better.
I agree except for Ann's outfit.
Eh I still want that one concept joker in the black suit he looked cool
@@kamatari1220 I like both of Ann's, but this one is basically Catwoman. The red one is more unique and meshes better with her Personas imo.
@@DJ-yo9oithe og fit better with her themes of rebellion and liberty, the red one is so over the top it looks like a valentine’s hooker
That akechi suit was mad
YUSUKE WOULDVE BEEN SO PRETTY NOOOO STARTS CRYING WAAA
hdhffhuff I THINK EVERYONE IS IN LOVE WITH THAT CONCEPT ART YUSUKE AND I DONT BLAME THEM ONE BIT.... WE WERE ROBBEDDDD
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO GOOD WHEN HE SUGGEST DRESSING AS A WOMAN IF YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT HAVING TOO MANY DUDE
He still is though
@@soybajo-kira8585 He is but his final design makes him look like he's an emo starbucks employee
For anyone wondering, the type of mask Joker wears is called a Carnival Mask, so it would've been more accurate to say Violet wore a Carnival Mask
"yoshizawa was supposed to have brown hair"
uhh.... whos gonna tell him
;)
Oh god
My heart...
Even crazier to think that Joker kept some of the traits of the MC from Catherine, which was the base that P5 was built on
Oh really?
Wow! that Joker sure is looking cool!
It's almost SCARY how good you are!
Man, that sports car convertible design would’ve been fire as hell.
THE HARU DISRESPECT I’M DONE
RIGHT HAR-
Gamma you are absolutely flooding my recommended and im loving it bro hope you POP OFF
OH MY GOD ALQASEM IDFNFHFJF HAIIII DBFJFHFRH HELLO IM SO JFNFNFFJF 💖💖💖💖💖
I like the idea of them just going around in their uniforms beating the life out of everything that moves. Don’t shadow’s bleed? I pity the laundromat
Umm they actually do that in every other persona game 🤓
I should’ve commented about the goth girl…
@@Atlas6217 Yes please conform to societal expectations
I love Futaba's final design but her emo one is such a vibe
Nah
Gamer girl is better than goth
NAAAAH YOU CAN’T DO THAT MY GIRL HARU 😂
There are so many amazing designs, I wish some of them hadn’t been cut!!
Reasons to love the Modern Persona games:
We got concept art
We got cool outfits
We got talking animals
We got people capable of killing gods in one gunshot
We sealed our souls away to prevent the darkness
The fog is coming the fog is coming the fog is coming
Oh, the kasumi's mask thing, if i remember correctly, was because kasumi was originally planned to be a female ver of the protag.
Jokers original persona was the demon from the German story Faust known as Mephistopheles. In the story, Dr Faust makes a deal with the demon allowing him to use his powers, but after a few years, his soul would be given to the devil and forced into eternal enslavement. Which is metal as fuck.
Joker was also one of the few cut characters in persona 4 arena and was going to use Mephistopheles as his persona. He has files in the game labels p5 hero, and another cut character is Shadow Marie who would of been a original character like Sho
Ooo! That's some very interesting stuff >:3
Everytime I read Mephistopheles I have a flash back to the dies Irae visual novel
The sketchs are so clean
Early design Yusuke legit looks like Tatsuya from Persona 2
DAMN, YOU'RE RIGHT! I never made the connection, they are eerily similar.
Makoto was even perfect before the final concepts just proves her superiority!
morgana more curvier?
I think lopunny's gonna have a new rival in the 34th rule
I was about to say that they might've dodged a bullet there. Knowing the Internet...
Would love to see mods of these characters remade as their concept art
haru has more screen time in this than in the actual game.
Ngl Long Hair Makoto does things for me so I'm lowkey glad it was always just a fan idea
Does what exactly 🤨
@Gamaxp everything bro 😩😩😩
“Much more feminine”
Bro just confirmed we coulda had FEMBOI MORGANA
I mean we know what the internet probably would do
I mean you can already dress him in a maid costume.
I mean
His human design in January is literally just a twink
I quite like Panther's RECON outfit. Between her and Makoto, she wears the Shadow Suit really well
YUSUKE WITH LONG HAIR?? I feel so robbed right now. Look how pretty he is 😩
Apparently yoshizawa had a joker mask because I think she was gonna be the female protagonist like in p3p but they scrapped the idea
Haru got more screen time than in the game
i love yusuke but i would go feral if we got that early design
Futaba with dark hair might look better then orange
I would be gay if that yusuke existed irl
you did my girl haru dirty like the game bro 😭😭😭
Took me a moment to realise that the ending credits was the actual Shibuya Crossing and not the P5R title screen.
If Morgana wasn’t male, but female, pretty sure he’d lust for Yusuke. Also, he’d be a chatte. Which me calling him a Shat would be even more on point.
"Morgana was originally going to look much more feminine"
Aaaand 75% of the viewers tuned out everything else 😂
Too true 😭
Woahh JOKER??
PERSONAAA
i really wish anns outfit wasnt so seductive. its a complete 180 after her whole plot line
Since you cut out Haru, I’ll just throw out that her design seems to be reworked from Wakaba’s concept art (or at least share a similar hairstyle).
I love how haru got cut off 😂
Mommy makoto is fine the way she is.
god i love these sketches.
i hope that one day they can actually model their characters that way
"Persona 5 would've been way better if atlus didn't cut these designs"
First one: feminine Morgana
Would
I like that Ann design a lot more. It always bothered me that, aside from Akechi’s Prince outfit, she was the only one without a mostly black (or dark blue) suit. It was a cool theme among the rest of the designs because, you know, they’re thieves. Kind of a shame that Ann just became more sexualized as development went on.
Femboy morgana is top tier cursed
You can buy the book with all the designs. I was looking through one at the Ryokan I stayed at in Kyoto last march and saw the concept art book and immediately bought one.
That's awesome!
Accurate Haru screentime
Who's haru?
Makoto’s mementos design resembles Raidou, kinda wish they went with that, though I’m glad we got someone who just punches shadows rather than someone with another weapon
"sexy cat"
This is the SECOND time i've seen someone call Morgana sexy. (I... don't judge?)
@@Gamaxp it's a reference to a text option you have when you get to suggest a name for Panther
@@maxiogaming1103 AHAHAHAHA I KNEW THAT YEAH RIGHT I TOTALLY REMEMEMBERD AHAHAHAHAAA NOOO SHHHHHHHHHHH PFFFFFFFFTTTT PFFFFFFFT NAAAH I NAHH I N LISTEN.
I- I CAN EXPLAIN
@@maxiogaming1103 Please forgive me for such a foul accusation.
Omg Yusuke already has one of my favourite types of design and you’re telling me he almost had LONG HAIR IN A BRAID?!
Dayum I would've loved concept art Morgana. Those eyes and the more slender build really add to the vague nature of his origins, and I actually feel that design looked more androgynous than femine, in a good way. Just would've loved the slightly menacing cat guide vibe, looks like it could've had a Mew type character rather than the more mascot esque end result. Morgana kinda feels like teddy but less interesting, that other design could've spiced it up.
Haru gets less screentime here too 💀
HARU NOO- 💀🤣
One of the joker designs reminded me of Ryoji and man if they kept it, I would’ve been so happy! I loved him so much…
I came to the comments for the Haru cut. I was not disappointed
First I got angry why did the video abruptly end, but then I remembered the joke😂
The Morgana is an interesting idea...but the look of beta Mona looks weird
Bro morgana would've actually been heat
Lol, Haru again didn’t have enough screen time)
i guess morbus makes more sense practically to hold more people, but also a sport car makes a bunch of sense in regards to how morgana even transforms, a sports car's engine purrs and looks way more cat like than a bus imo
Long-hair Yusuke was robbed from us- as a Yusuke fan I need to see more of that
We need more long hair yusuke fanart tbh 🙏
Haru's initial design is so cute. Although she had way less of both floof and forehead
Damn the beta Morgana design is really cool
I can't help but agree! Though I wonder how their model would've looked like in game, its a bit hard to imagine. Maybe it's because I'm used to the morgana we got
Would
We were robbed of goth futaba
I WONT STAND FOR THIS HARU DISRESPECT
I'll make up for this dont worry🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
And now we have the sports car design and Ann's concept design in P5X