Wouldn't Grey Worm be a more likely eunuch to order Varys' death? He actually holds some authority, unlike Belwas, who was one of Illyrio's guys originally.
I think a brother Bloodraven loved was almost certainly king Daeron, but it would be endlessly more interesting if it were Daemon Blackfire. That would kinda imply that his hate for BS was stronger than that love
With Dany's attack of Volantis, I'm sure this quote totally definitely won't come back... If I were khal, I would feint at Selhorys, let the Volantenes rush to defend it, then swing south and ride hard for Volantis itself. (Tyrion VI ADwD)
Right up there with Preston Jacobs for me. Except for the livestreams of late, which I understand why he's doing them, and some can be good, but I could take or leave them.
Also, I know I missed the poll for the next video, and this wasn't an option on that one even but going back to the poll that led to this one, I'd like to humbly suggest that you explore the Ten Thousand Worlds Universe and how that casts a heavy shadow on GRRM's writing...you know, like the Kimdissi Philosophy being...all over the place... The connection to Unsound Variations in the Littlefinger series was one of the best points, and I've never actually heard (or thought of) that particular angle myself!
@mycroft_moriarty I need to go back and read dying ofthe light again for sure. Because I would love to do something that ties into that! Also, very glad you enjoyed the bloodraven voice. I like doing the voices for the readings 🙂
So what I was thinking about this I had the same Idea for a min, but then I thought about economy of time... Like yeah, he can see tons of stuff, but he cannot be everywhere once like there's just literally no way and if you think about the amount of information that he's not able to absorb it becomes like mind boggling just because of how much happens all over any given world at any time. And we know that blood raven is wrong about stuff, It's like he even has freakouts about his own being wrong (allegedly) So I think that he's maybe being given a little bit too much credit although his power is insane it's not like he can actually control everything or see everything. He is definitely able to be fooled and able to be manipulated that game Is incredibly difficult and a level of deception and deceit that Probably couldn't be accomplished by most people.. But Varys isn't most people... And then if you think about the whole idea of the blackfyres versus the targaryans, There really isn't any reason to harp on it so much and make it such an important part of the overall story through all of the books.If there's not going to be something that comes of it. And really the only thing that could come of it comes out of the Varys camp. So while it's far from What I would consider to be like concrete or provable I think it's a pretty good working theory.
I find it strange that illyrio's allegedly so trusting of his servants. Perhaps he actually wants them to spread the word of Tyrion's visit. He's no dummy.
Yes! Absolutely! If you have any questions, feel free to drop them here. Or I'll probably make another post eventually. I want to try to tackle it from the next couple of weeks.
@@randominternetguyoffical sure, ive got a couple. Were do varys and illyrio get all the children they need from? Which side characters do you think might be agents of varys and illyrio? Varys is a master of disguises, and spends all of feast and dance hidden in the red keep. Everytime i reread the kl chapters in feast, i keep asking myself which minor character might secretly be varys. Pycelle seems like an obvious candidate. (Big beard, and we know varys has his corpse lying around in the epilouge.) Also, who do you think the friends in the reach are? I always thought maybe paxter redwyne, and randyll Tarly might be suspects meant by this line, maybe even the tyrells as well. Thoughts?
So what's next for Aegon? Marriage to Arianne? (either Aegon desperately needs Dornish support in the short-term, and marrying Arianne is a non-negotiable part of securing that support, or because Arianne tells him that Dany's already married Quentyn, so marrying her is the best Aegon can do to get close to Dany via becoming siblings-in-law-in-law?) Greyscale epidemic? (spread how? Golden Company members catch and spread it, but still remain a competent fighting force somehow? Ravens catch it and spread it via raven mail? Then there's smaller stuff... historically, there are 3 Peake castles, and 3 Peakes in the Golden Company - pretty clear what's gonna happen there. Which opens up some intriguing possibilities: everyone assumes houses like the Peakes who historically supported the Golden Company will do so again, but it might be just the opposite? The current Lord Peake will be afraid that he'll loose his castle to his sellsword maybe-cousins, might do anything to stop Aegon from taking power. Aegon NEEDS to reward the Golden Company with lands and titles, which he'd have to take from current lords. Plus, there's no checks in place to prevent the sellswords from claiming any surname they please - what's to stop them from pulling a Hugh Hammer/Ulf White and being like "um I'm actually a Gardener/Casterly/Mudd/Durrandon. I demand one of the best castles in Westeros, or I desert."
If nothing else your theory would make for some awesome world building. I hope GRRM does something along the lines of this. Thanks. Danny will kill Illyrio by drowning him in a vat of liquid cheese. I said it first! LOL! BTW, not sure if youre following Preston's fan fiction by his new Bran chapter was a good read.
I have not been keeping up with the fanfic, I've just never been much of a fanfic guy tho I have heard good things about it. I love the cheese idea! That would be a perfect end to him!
Nice to see a new Video. The Daynerys winds predictions are very intersting. The sacking of pentos by daynerys and iliryos plans backfiring with daynerys backfiring would fit very well. But i really get where the premise of bloodraven is watching Varys is coming from. I accept that Varys is staging a play, but only for those he is really interacting with. How is the mystical wizard coming into this? I think that the bloodraven excerpt should just show you that the three eyed crow is the human bloodraven and he still got his feelings for his brother, … But he doesn’t seems to be invested in the magical bran plots as well as Varys, because he is doing Targaryen related stuff on the side. Sounds a little too tinfoil for me. But since the LF aborts Hoster theory, im interested if you are able to make that seem as possible as your LF theory?
To be honest, the blood raven part of the equation is the part that i'm not really super certain on and there is the least amount of supporting evidence. But I feel like with all of the blackfyre stuff and the Dunk and Egg books All of the groundwork is there and a whole bunch of connections clearly being woven in.. So like I almost think that what we're seeing is George adding a bit to the story kind of late in the equation? If that makes sense. It could be that it never comes to full fruition either like we may never get a confession from Varys and BR might die before Aegon is proven false.. But like all the pieces are there we have the golden skull of bitter steel, we got the Sword Blackfyre floatin around, theres all that cut feast content that centers on the blackfyres.. He just needs to wrap it all together. But it remains to be seen. Personally, it's the scenario I like the best because it ties everything together. But maybe everything doesn't need to be tied together And i'm just reading in things I'd like to happen. 🤔
@@randominternetguyoffical yeah ok, that seems like a good answer. 👍 I think at this point it’s a matter of personal taste if you think it’s better if all Blackfyre thinks come together or if some parts stay separated. I’m really hoping that someday we will see what approach George takes. Kind of what I like about asoiaf, seeing the different approaches and results people take from their analysis.
Thank you for the video. I think that you can only speculate but I suspect their fall will also be the fall of Jon Connington and House Martell. What I mean is that it'll be very tragic.
So I think Tyrion and Dany will retrace Tyrion's ADwD journey in reverse (otherwise, there are a lot of chapters of that trip that are a little pointlessly stretched out, if they aren't going to be used to make an epic parallel), but when they get the Pentos, I don't think Illyrio will be there... we have this quote: "Good fortune," Illyrio called after them. "Tell the boy I am sorry that I will not be with him for his wedding. I will rejoin you in Westeros. That I swear, by my sweet Serra's hands." (Tyrion III ADwD) And if Illyrio wants to join them in Westeros, he's gonna have to do it sooner rather than later. After all, winter is coming, and the seas grow ever stormier. As to where he pops up in Westeros, I think its abundantly clear that it will be in King's Landing, due to this quote: "The magisters of Pentos have been known to lend money as well," said Ser Kevan. "Try them." We kinda know that Cersei's gotta climb back into power soon for very briefly, to send Harys Swyft to Braavos. The easiest way for that to happen is if Illyrio shows up, offers to "help" her get back to power by hiring a bunch of guards/bribing the gold cloaks, then making Cersei the face of his slaughtering sparrows campaign (a la Maegor the Cruel). Then Aegon can show up, all the guards of the Red Keep and gold cloaks defect to his side, and he pardons the few remaining sparrows a la Jaehaerys I. Tatters and Dany paint a terrible picture of Illyrio, but she holds up hope that they're mistaken, even as she burns his manse... then she sees Illyrio standing beside Aegon on the Iron Throne, and realizes that there was no mistake? Or would seeing the house with the red door on Illyrio's estate be a better turning point for her?
That is a very interesting point! I wonder if he will take ship to Westeros, I mean we have seen him there before.. Not sure that he'd directly interact with Cersei but that is an interesting idea too 0_0
@@randominternetguyoffical I'm not sure how else Cersei would come back to power... the Tyrells would never willingly let her near power again, and they've got 2 armies in the city, and a much better relationship with the gold cloaks than the Lannisters do. Though of course it could be that the queen mentioned in the Mercy chapter is Margaery, or that it is Cersei but she's no more powerful than she was in the epilogue... if Cersei and Illyrio did interact, it would parallel nicely with Skahaz "helping" Barristan do a coup, then discarding Barristan when it suites him.
I think by letting her remain in Meereen he took on a big writing load but tbh I actually kinda like that its evolving in a somewhat organic way. Like her leaving super abruptly without the logistical means to do so would feel to me pretty jarring. Tho I do get that she needs to make it back to the main tale. Like winter and dany are two forces that are kinda spinnin their wheels..
@randominternetguyoffical but nothing happppppppens in Esos. The wall at least has adventure and actual implications. Mereen is the same chapter over and over.
@@tempertempernow I would say it could stand some changes, but over all for me some of my favorite chapters occur over there. Like Kingbreaker is my favorite still to this day. It's certainly different tho, like in general the way grrm writes even has changed a bit over the series. What about the non essos chapters of dance and feast do you get into those much?
I will look the names up. They are backing tracks from the cc section, I think one of them is literally called like dark ambient piano or something like that XD They are very good though!
What about Aurane Waters huge overpowered fleet paid by the crown that made them lose support of the Iron Bank and it's naval power? Is he truly just a random pirate king now or is he in for the Aegon cause from the beginning? Do they plan to legitimize him and make him Aegon's master of ships like the Velaryons have been to the Targaryens for hundreds of years?
The dragon eggs... why give them to Dany? Why did Illyrio let them out of his sight???? If he doesn't think they're going to hatch, then they're super valuable as a symbol of legitimacy for Aegon. If he thinks Dany could hatch them, why not try to do so at his manse? Does he think the dothraki sea and khal drogo are irreplaceable parts of the dragon-hatching recipe? Did he think Jorah was loyal and competent enough to return the eggs/hatchlings, despite all the chaos and danger of a khalasar? Is it just a plot convenience and/or a now-retconned AGoT-era plotline? (if that's the case, odd that GRRM brought attention back to it in Daenerys X ADwD)
Best explanation I have is the one from part 3, they might be a symbol of his Blackfyreness, so like a way to signal something on the DL while giving a kingly gift?
Perhaps the giving such a gift to the beggar king's only sister has a prestige value he can exploit in the future and he knows/ plans on recouping them at a later date. It was not hard to see that the legendary temper of young Targaryen would get him killed. After that, they have no use for Drogo et al. Hell, a khalazar might trade 3 eggs (3 worthless stones) for three horses...who knows...well, the cheese monger might!
@@nowaythishappened Yeah, I think that if the plan had gone 100% away. They wanted he could have just gotten the eggs back with money or something. Illyrio is dummy rich 💰
I think that to birth Dragons you need the blood of a King that of a prince and that of a witch, at summerhall a witch was missing and we know the end I think he send dany their because maybe he suspected it (I know this is a stretch) and drogon and a potential dany son may fit the bill
@@Kai555100 Wouldn't Viserys' king's blood also fit the bill? Wouldn't there be less risk of loosing the eggs if instead he convinced Viserys to marry Dany, hide out at Illyrio's manse for the duration of the pregnancy, then throw the Beggar King and his son on a pyre? If you need a maegi, ship one in from Asshai. If the plan was to kill Drogo off, then Illyrio must surely know how chaotic it is in a khalasar when the khal dies. The eggs could easily have been stolen, smashed or lost. Illyrio's minions like Jorah could easily have all been killed off, or gone rogue, stolen the eggs and sold them off in the far east, where Illyrio would have trouble retrieving them. And with the witch at Summerhall... wasn't the Ghost of High Heart there? Aren't those two events paralleled specifically because all 5 elements - the pyre, the witch, the king, the princess and her baby son - were all present in both cases?
So if the house with the red door was on Illyrio's estates, why house Viserys and Dany there, why stop housing them, and why was Dany lied to about the house being in Braavos?
TBH, not sure entirely... I'm gonna dig into all that a bit in a future series. But I've just always vibed with the idea that its those estates in the rolling grass fields that he brings up. Lotta people think Dorne but like... we do get a good slice of Dorne and its a lot more arid.. idk, just my wacky thought
The house being on Illyrio's estates fits really well with Illyrio and Varys having long-term plans for Dany and Viserys. But it being in Dorne might fit better with Viserys lying about Braavos, as it would bruise his pride less to say that he was kicked out of anti-dragon Braavos, rather than part of the country he wants to rule...
@randominternetguyoffical you might be right, but I think George would have done something like have Tyrion noticed something in passing, like; houses having different coloured doors.
@@jaredbrady5566 Preston Jacobs made some pretty persuasive arguments towards this being the location of the HwtRD IMO in his "Page of Lies" series. I think Tyrion noting it would be revealing too much too early. Dany has a fair ways to go before her "going back" before she can go forward leads her there...
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Wouldn't Grey Worm be a more likely eunuch to order Varys' death? He actually holds some authority, unlike Belwas, who was one of Illyrio's guys originally.
I think a brother Bloodraven loved was almost certainly king Daeron, but it would be endlessly more interesting if it were Daemon Blackfire. That would kinda imply that his hate for BS was stronger than that love
Every time I think about Old Volantis being destroyed I'm filled with sadness, but then I remember WoW is never coming out and I feel relieved. :D
With Dany's attack of Volantis, I'm sure this quote totally definitely won't come back...
If I were khal, I would feint at Selhorys, let the Volantenes rush to defend it, then swing south and ride hard for Volantis itself. (Tyrion VI ADwD)
Indeed, I think that could easily be some more foreshadowing of upcoming events once she marches
You are one of the few RUclipsrs that I drop everything to watch.
Right up there with Preston Jacobs for me. Except for the livestreams of late, which I understand why he's doing them, and some can be good, but I could take or leave them.
I am honored that you enjoy the videos so much!
Also I saw your art for MeeraReads! Amazing job as always!
@@mycroft_moriarty They are good but sooo long lol
@@randominternetguyoffical Thank you!
Just came across your channel yesterday I can get jiggy with this
Glad you like the video, ive been on a lil hiatus but I'll eventually be putting out more
This video has been great! Your voicings during your readings are getting better and better! This has been the best Bloodraven I've heard so far!
Also, I know I missed the poll for the next video, and this wasn't an option on that one even but going back to the poll that led to this one, I'd like to humbly suggest that you explore the Ten Thousand Worlds Universe and how that casts a heavy shadow on GRRM's writing...you know, like the Kimdissi Philosophy being...all over the place... The connection to Unsound Variations in the Littlefinger series was one of the best points, and I've never actually heard (or thought of) that particular angle myself!
@mycroft_moriarty I need to go back and read dying ofthe light again for sure. Because I would love to do something that ties into that!
Also, very glad you enjoyed the bloodraven voice. I like doing the voices for the readings 🙂
I have a hard time believing that Bloodraven would be tricked by Varys saying a few things when he can see much of the past and maybe the future.
So what I was thinking about this I had the same Idea for a min, but then I thought about economy of time...
Like yeah, he can see tons of stuff, but he cannot be everywhere once like there's just literally no way and if you think about the amount of information that he's not able to absorb it becomes like mind boggling just because of how much happens all over any given world at any time.
And we know that blood raven is wrong about stuff, It's like he even has freakouts about his own being wrong (allegedly)
So I think that he's maybe being given a little bit too much credit although his power is insane it's not like he can actually control everything or see everything.
He is definitely able to be fooled and able to be manipulated that game Is incredibly difficult and a level of deception and deceit that Probably couldn't be accomplished by most people..
But Varys isn't most people...
And then if you think about the whole idea of the blackfyres versus the targaryans, There really isn't any reason to harp on it so much and make it such an important part of the overall story through all of the books.If there's not going to be something that comes of it.
And really the only thing that could come of it comes out of the Varys camp.
So while it's far from What I would consider to be like concrete or provable I think it's a pretty good working theory.
I find it strange that illyrio's allegedly so trusting of his servants. Perhaps he actually wants them to spread the word of Tyrion's visit. He's no dummy.
You might be onto something there!
Thanks again friend.
She gonna comeback together him for sure when she learns their real plans most likely. Turning up with Drogon ✌️
Hey rig, do you plan on making a q and a video for a game for two players the same way you did for the littlefinger videos?
Yes! Absolutely!
If you have any questions, feel free to drop them here. Or I'll probably make another post eventually. I want to try to tackle it from the next couple of weeks.
@@randominternetguyoffical sure, ive got a couple.
Were do varys and illyrio get all the children they need from?
Which side characters do you think might be agents of varys and illyrio?
Varys is a master of disguises, and spends all of feast and dance hidden in the red keep. Everytime i reread the kl chapters in feast, i keep asking myself which minor character might secretly be varys. Pycelle seems like an obvious candidate. (Big beard, and we know varys has his corpse lying around in the epilouge.)
Also, who do you think the friends in the reach are? I always thought maybe paxter redwyne, and randyll Tarly might be suspects meant by this line, maybe even the tyrells as well. Thoughts?
@herbertschulz4313 excellent asks! Particularly that first one imo not enough time is spent on diving into "little birds"
So what's next for Aegon? Marriage to Arianne? (either Aegon desperately needs Dornish support in the short-term, and marrying Arianne is a non-negotiable part of securing that support, or because Arianne tells him that Dany's already married Quentyn, so marrying her is the best Aegon can do to get close to Dany via becoming siblings-in-law-in-law?) Greyscale epidemic? (spread how? Golden Company members catch and spread it, but still remain a competent fighting force somehow? Ravens catch it and spread it via raven mail?
Then there's smaller stuff... historically, there are 3 Peake castles, and 3 Peakes in the Golden Company - pretty clear what's gonna happen there. Which opens up some intriguing possibilities: everyone assumes houses like the Peakes who historically supported the Golden Company will do so again, but it might be just the opposite? The current Lord Peake will be afraid that he'll loose his castle to his sellsword maybe-cousins, might do anything to stop Aegon from taking power. Aegon NEEDS to reward the Golden Company with lands and titles, which he'd have to take from current lords. Plus, there's no checks in place to prevent the sellswords from claiming any surname they please - what's to stop them from pulling a Hugh Hammer/Ulf White and being like "um I'm actually a Gardener/Casterly/Mudd/Durrandon. I demand one of the best castles in Westeros, or I desert."
If nothing else your theory would make for some awesome world building. I hope GRRM does something along the lines of this. Thanks.
Danny will kill Illyrio by drowning him in a vat of liquid cheese. I said it first! LOL!
BTW, not sure if youre following Preston's fan fiction by his new Bran chapter was a good read.
I have not been keeping up with the fanfic, I've just never been much of a fanfic guy tho I have heard good things about it. I love the cheese idea! That would be a perfect end to him!
Nice to see a new Video. The Daynerys winds predictions are very intersting. The sacking of pentos by daynerys and iliryos plans backfiring with daynerys backfiring would fit very well. But i really get where the premise of bloodraven is watching Varys is coming from. I accept that Varys is staging a play, but only for those he is really interacting with. How is the mystical wizard coming into this? I think that the bloodraven excerpt should just show you that the three eyed crow is the human bloodraven and he still got his feelings for his brother, … But he doesn’t seems to be invested in the magical bran plots as well as Varys, because he is doing Targaryen related stuff on the side. Sounds a little too tinfoil for me.
But since the LF aborts Hoster theory, im interested if you are able to make that seem as possible as your LF theory?
To be honest, the blood raven part of the equation is the part that i'm not really super certain on and there is the least amount of supporting evidence.
But I feel like with all of the blackfyre stuff and the Dunk and Egg books All of the groundwork is there and a whole bunch of connections clearly being woven in..
So like I almost think that what we're seeing is George adding a bit to the story kind of late in the equation? If that makes sense.
It could be that it never comes to full fruition either like we may never get a confession from Varys and BR might die before Aegon is proven false..
But like all the pieces are there we have the golden skull of bitter steel, we got the Sword Blackfyre floatin around, theres all that cut feast content that centers on the blackfyres..
He just needs to wrap it all together.
But it remains to be seen.
Personally, it's the scenario I like the best because it ties everything together. But maybe everything doesn't need to be tied together And i'm just reading in things I'd like to happen. 🤔
@@randominternetguyoffical yeah ok, that seems like a good answer. 👍 I think at this point it’s a matter of personal taste if you think it’s better if all Blackfyre thinks come together or if some parts stay separated. I’m really hoping that someday we will see what approach George takes.
Kind of what I like about asoiaf, seeing the different approaches and results people take from their analysis.
Fantastic vid and series! Keep kicking butt.
Thanks Taco! 🌮 You as well!
Yes!!!! NEW VIDEO!!!!!!!
Indeed! Wrapping up this lil series and on to the Q&A!
Thank you for the video. I think that you can only speculate but I suspect their fall will also be the fall of Jon Connington and House Martell. What I mean is that it'll be very tragic.
Very glad you like them!
Got more comin soon!
I agree I believe their entire alliance is doomed to fail one way or another.
So I think Tyrion and Dany will retrace Tyrion's ADwD journey in reverse (otherwise, there are a lot of chapters of that trip that are a little pointlessly stretched out, if they aren't going to be used to make an epic parallel), but when they get the Pentos, I don't think Illyrio will be there... we have this quote:
"Good fortune," Illyrio called after them. "Tell the boy I am sorry that I will not be with him for his wedding. I will rejoin you in Westeros. That I swear, by my sweet Serra's hands." (Tyrion III ADwD)
And if Illyrio wants to join them in Westeros, he's gonna have to do it sooner rather than later. After all, winter is coming, and the seas grow ever stormier. As to where he pops up in Westeros, I think its abundantly clear that it will be in King's Landing, due to this quote:
"The magisters of Pentos have been known to lend money as well," said Ser Kevan. "Try them."
We kinda know that Cersei's gotta climb back into power soon for very briefly, to send Harys Swyft to Braavos. The easiest way for that to happen is if Illyrio shows up, offers to "help" her get back to power by hiring a bunch of guards/bribing the gold cloaks, then making Cersei the face of his slaughtering sparrows campaign (a la Maegor the Cruel). Then Aegon can show up, all the guards of the Red Keep and gold cloaks defect to his side, and he pardons the few remaining sparrows a la Jaehaerys I.
Tatters and Dany paint a terrible picture of Illyrio, but she holds up hope that they're mistaken, even as she burns his manse... then she sees Illyrio standing beside Aegon on the Iron Throne, and realizes that there was no mistake? Or would seeing the house with the red door on Illyrio's estate be a better turning point for her?
That is a very interesting point! I wonder if he will take ship to Westeros, I mean we have seen him there before..
Not sure that he'd directly interact with Cersei but that is an interesting idea too 0_0
@@randominternetguyoffical I'm not sure how else Cersei would come back to power... the Tyrells would never willingly let her near power again, and they've got 2 armies in the city, and a much better relationship with the gold cloaks than the Lannisters do. Though of course it could be that the queen mentioned in the Mercy chapter is Margaery, or that it is Cersei but she's no more powerful than she was in the epilogue... if Cersei and Illyrio did interact, it would parallel nicely with Skahaz "helping" Barristan do a coup, then discarding Barristan when it suites him.
@@Mj_Jetson Cersei coming back is quite a trip right? Like idk maybe she won't but I figured she'd tie it all up and somehow pull everyone along..
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I wish there wasn't so much Dany Esos crap left for George to write
I think by letting her remain in Meereen he took on a big writing load but tbh I actually kinda like that its evolving in a somewhat organic way. Like her leaving super abruptly without the logistical means to do so would feel to me pretty jarring.
Tho I do get that she needs to make it back to the main tale. Like winter and dany are two forces that are kinda spinnin their wheels..
@randominternetguyoffical but nothing happppppppens in Esos. The wall at least has adventure and actual implications. Mereen is the same chapter over and over.
@@tempertempernow I would say it could stand some changes, but over all for me some of my favorite chapters occur over there. Like Kingbreaker is my favorite still to this day. It's certainly different tho, like in general the way grrm writes even has changed a bit over the series. What about the non essos chapters of dance and feast do you get into those much?
Hey RIG, I wanted to know if you know the name of the music pieces at 7:00 and 9:20? Those pieces are so good and have infected our mind 😭😭😭
I will look the names up. They are backing tracks from the cc section, I think one of them is literally called like dark ambient piano or something like that XD
They are very good though!
What about Aurane Waters huge overpowered fleet paid by the crown that made them lose support of the Iron Bank and it's naval power? Is he truly just a random pirate king now or is he in for the Aegon cause from the beginning? Do they plan to legitimize him and make him Aegon's master of ships like the Velaryons have been to the Targaryens for hundreds of years?
Wait, did you suggested that jaken's original mission was to join the Watch to unearth bloodraven and take him out?
Preston Jacobs originally suggested this and he has a series on it. But I do like it as an idea 🧐
The dragon eggs... why give them to Dany? Why did Illyrio let them out of his sight???? If he doesn't think they're going to hatch, then they're super valuable as a symbol of legitimacy for Aegon. If he thinks Dany could hatch them, why not try to do so at his manse? Does he think the dothraki sea and khal drogo are irreplaceable parts of the dragon-hatching recipe? Did he think Jorah was loyal and competent enough to return the eggs/hatchlings, despite all the chaos and danger of a khalasar? Is it just a plot convenience and/or a now-retconned AGoT-era plotline? (if that's the case, odd that GRRM brought attention back to it in Daenerys X ADwD)
Best explanation I have is the one from part 3, they might be a symbol of his Blackfyreness, so like a way to signal something on the DL while giving a kingly gift?
Perhaps the giving such a gift to the beggar king's only sister has a prestige value he can exploit in the future and he knows/ plans on recouping them at a later date. It was not hard to see that the legendary temper of young Targaryen would get him killed. After that, they have no use for Drogo et al.
Hell, a khalazar might trade 3 eggs (3 worthless stones) for three horses...who knows...well, the cheese monger might!
@@nowaythishappened Yeah, I think that if the plan had gone 100% away. They wanted he could have just gotten the eggs back with money or something.
Illyrio is dummy rich 💰
I think that to birth Dragons you need the blood of a King that of a prince and that of a witch, at summerhall a witch was missing and we know the end
I think he send dany their because maybe he suspected it (I know this is a stretch) and drogon and a potential dany son may fit the bill
@@Kai555100 Wouldn't Viserys' king's blood also fit the bill? Wouldn't there be less risk of loosing the eggs if instead he convinced Viserys to marry Dany, hide out at Illyrio's manse for the duration of the pregnancy, then throw the Beggar King and his son on a pyre? If you need a maegi, ship one in from Asshai. If the plan was to kill Drogo off, then Illyrio must surely know how chaotic it is in a khalasar when the khal dies. The eggs could easily have been stolen, smashed or lost. Illyrio's minions like Jorah could easily have all been killed off, or gone rogue, stolen the eggs and sold them off in the far east, where Illyrio would have trouble retrieving them.
And with the witch at Summerhall... wasn't the Ghost of High Heart there? Aren't those two events paralleled specifically because all 5 elements - the pyre, the witch, the king, the princess and her baby son - were all present in both cases?
So if the house with the red door was on Illyrio's estates, why house Viserys and Dany there, why stop housing them, and why was Dany lied to about the house being in Braavos?
TBH, not sure entirely... I'm gonna dig into all that a bit in a future series. But I've just always vibed with the idea that its those estates in the rolling grass fields that he brings up. Lotta people think Dorne but like... we do get a good slice of Dorne and its a lot more arid.. idk, just my wacky thought
The house being on Illyrio's estates fits really well with Illyrio and Varys having long-term plans for Dany and Viserys. But it being in Dorne might fit better with Viserys lying about Braavos, as it would bruise his pride less to say that he was kicked out of anti-dragon Braavos, rather than part of the country he wants to rule...
I always figured it was in the Sea-Lords grounds. Where he has gardens (maybe a greenhouse with lemons) and a menagerie (the carved animal heads).
@randominternetguyoffical you might be right, but I think George would have done something like have Tyrion noticed something in passing, like; houses having different coloured doors.
@@jaredbrady5566 Preston Jacobs made some pretty persuasive arguments towards this being the location of the HwtRD IMO in his "Page of Lies" series. I think Tyrion noting it would be revealing too much too early. Dany has a fair ways to go before her "going back" before she can go forward leads her there...