And for so many of us, we don’t mind keeping the spoiler plant running in the background on another tab or on our phone or TV while we do other things. I bet his retention goes up quite a bit now!
Who cares about the algorithm, little pup is already the biggest League streamer out there, if someone wants to watch the LPL Finals they'll come to this video anyway.
Sneaky has always had anti spoiler stuff to the end of his videos he has his outro music the DK country theme on repeat and a picture of the rest of the bracket.
@@tealover7058 lol what is this statement? OP said he(sneaky) started adding end of the games interview from the broadcast and gameplay of his stream that day. i don't understand why you brought it the bracket with music if the idea is viewer retention and not a single image at the end with or without music. OP gave a statement about an idea cadrel could use as well but might not work here since cadrel has a bunch of clips videos so that why hes just keeping the plant.
About what Caedrel said at the end of the video: this is exactly why if I’m watching the series at work, or even sometimes at home, and I know I won’t be needing my phone for anything for a while, I let the spoiler plant play in the background. I know how important viewer retention is for the algorithm so I want to do my part, no matter how small an impact it has, to drive that number up just a little bit. Thanks for the plants, Caedrel, I’ll make sure to keep watering them for you
Exactly! I am so happy he explained it too. Because, for those of us who support our Rat King ❤, we have zero issues letting the spoiler plant run in the background to keep those numbers up!
@@jtaylor119 does it only make a difference when we let the video run through completely? skipping to the end and "watching" the last minutes probably doesnt change anything, does it?
At everyone: Just keep the video open in a tab running through the spoiler plant. That way the viewer retention is still fine and we can keep appreciating them doing us a favor for keeping it.
@@timwildauer5063 yea i do this on my desktop/laptop if i originally watched it there, otherwise this completely blocks my mobile/tablet use and drains the battery lol
Really really respect the spoiler plant. I know it's not much, but I leave my tab open and "watch" the spoiler plant every time to help with the algorithm!
About spoiler plant: Dom has been putting old edited videos from way before. That include him playing with popular streamers of the time. You could technically try to put some nostalgic videos as well to keep retention :)
@@generationxpvpbruh t1 might not even reach world they literally got swept by hle and damwon might eliminate them. I know they won 4 worlds and won it last year but this is a new year gen.g already break their curse and blg just gotten better
Random idea I had, I love spoiler plant, but I love your analysis more. It might be a lot, but if we could just get 10-20 more minutes of you talking about the game I'd be stoked. Thank you so much for all that you do!
I think instead of caedrel instantly putting spoiler plant in after the match he could show the post game interviews acting as spoiler protection. And spoiler plant later. I would watch the interviews and his insights on them and i'll boost viewer attention...
You’re a real one caedral, you can just put one of your league games instead of the spoiler plant. Some people might watch which will bring it up somewhat
I feel really bad for Tarzan's fifth consecutive runner-up. He's a real trophy-worthy Jungler, but it feels like the sky is blocking his coronation. 😢😢😢
Thank you so much for spoiler plant, makes the viewing experience so much better. Gonna keep it up in the background and let it play out to help, appreciate your vods greatly.
Thanks for keeping the plant! it really improves the viewing experience. Id rather watch a twitch vod than a youtube summary with spoilers (knowing who wins just kills the tension for me). The plant keeps the best of both worlds!
1:06:47 i think your big to the point of at least for these high stakes games being able to tank the viewer retention has the viewers that watch these games are doing so from the notifications or the channel anyway
Why not add other content from stream in, in place of the blank spoiler plant screen? This would allow you to retain more viewers via entertainment rather than just goodwill, while also allowing you to not spoil 3-0 results. Lmk if you want help with this type of strategy stuff man, I used to be a Sales Director for an AI company so this type of work was basically part of my day job. I love gaming systems (still shit at just gaming tho).
soo Caedrel held his side of the bargan by keeping the plants, now we should all like his videos from now on to counter measure that viewer retention debuff by him adding anti spoiler plant!
its the right move, spoiler plant keeps bringing people back to this channel, that plus your commentary of course. You could put a message on the spoiler plant to mute and keep playing in the background or something
Hey Caedrel, I basically never comment on videos, but wanted to say mad respect for keeping the spoiler plant. It genuinely affects my enjoyment of the games, which I watch exclusively through your twitch and RUclips channels. I’m guilty of forgetting to like RUclips videos, but considering your sacrifice, I’m committed to liking every video of yours that I watch to help out your algorithm in return. I invite the rats to join me in this in support of you! Thank you so much for the high quality, interesting, funny and entertaining content Caedrel, big love from Wales❤️
Suggestion for the Spoiler Plant: (Like if you agree) What if there would be some kind of content of the Stream, Gameplay, Analysis, or just some good music. It wont solve the problem but it could make a small diffrence. Thx anyway for the great content you provide.
yeah i do really appreciate the spoiler plant i mean it just completely changes the mindset while watching like i actually thought this was going 5 games
Hey Editor/Marc, firstly, God bless you. Blessed by the unapologetic frantic nature of your success. My point to comment (beside algorithm) is to say that I will try to leave spoiler plant section of videos going in a separate tab, but it would be even better if editor would include analysis sections (unedited so as to not create a larger workload with minimal payoff) which were in the post game sections and post series section of vods. Not sure if that would work for what y'all are going for, but might increase natural retention, beyond super-nerds like me leaving it open.
I often watch these games on my second monitor and when the game ends and I'm focused on something else on my main monitor I be just chilling watching the spoiler plant x)
This match was insane! I can't believe how close it was at times. BLG really pulled through, but gotta love WEIBO's teamwork too. 😅 It's like a rollercoaster! Anyone else feel like their heart stopped at the final moments? 🎢
Mr. Caedrel thx like always for the quality video, and the spoiler plant, despite its downsides. Idk mayhaps to keep up engagement do like analytics at the end instead of spoiler plant for so long. Or just, since 3-0s are also so bad for it, maybe also consider not using your ult to ensure one. Like at 54:12 . 😂
Really caedrel caught caster cursing WBG tho 54:12 Also ON was not inting his ults but it was actually 5head gigabrain play so Elk can land his penta in finals
I still question myself which is worse/better A 3-0 game where both teams played really close neck and neck 40+ deaths in total with 500 gold diff back and forth game where the game could end either way but in the end only one team monopolized the wins. Or a 3-2 game where all games were just landslide snowball victory from the victors.
Just saying, I saw on lolesports that the final was today, right away went to your channel and watched it, thank you for keeping the beloved spoiler plant !
RUclips needs to be lobbied to provide some spoiler-blocking service considering how much content features competitions like this (even highlight videos of sports games can be spoiled): perhaps there could be an option to add a block of "spoiler" time to the end of a video, and when moused over or otherwise looked at simply repeats footage from earlier in the video. This block of time would be considered "unwatchable" for the purposes of the algorithm. Also they need to include an option to label videos as "spoilable" so that the first comment on mobile can't be visible. Or something like that.
he's leftie so yes. fun fact: he used to cross his hands when playing at first (left hand on mouse which was on his right side, and right hand on keyboard on his left side) which was hilarious to watch. still rekt ppl tho
When caedrels chat makes the most basic jokes making fun of people during LCK games he always says “mods”, “chat you’re so ill”, “stop flaming people” but when he streams LPL and people are being blatantly racist in chat he doesn’t say shit. I’m not accusing him of being a racist or anything but it’s funny how different the environments feel.
Spoiler plant is great :) I don't always get them pushed, but the youtube algorithm is also heavily based on what you've recently searched for anyway, so it's easy for 'normal' content id be interested in to just not be pushed to me ; I almost always find your vids just by going to your channel cuz its the best way to keep up to date with other regions and re-watch my main region games from your POV even tho I watched it live cuz Pedro commentary and insight is just unbeatable
Honestly, you are being such a hero for keeping the spoiler plant. Much appreciated, also for the explanation, very insightful.
Yeah it's dope how he's willing to drop potential profits for a better viewing experience
Im guessing he makes enough on streaming to not care, but still very pog of pedro
And for so many of us, we don’t mind keeping the spoiler plant running in the background on another tab or on our phone or TV while we do other things. I bet his retention goes up quite a bit now!
"this spoiler plant is able to be here thanks to you beautiful rats who subscribe and like"
Amazing isn’t it
54:12 "This is unloseable for Weibo"
at least he didn't tell us to call him sally
Typical Sally behavior
Huh. I’ve seen it before…But I couldn’t recall where I’ve seen it.😅
so disgusting why woul he say that this mfer
He just HAD to say it... it's the Sjokz monologues all over again lol
Really appreciate keeping the spoiler plant even if it hurts your brand … true community leader of the year xdx ❤
actually just put on something fun, like part of the monke or other fun part of the stream @caedral
Who cares about the algorithm, little pup is already the biggest League streamer out there, if someone wants to watch the LPL Finals they'll come to this video anyway.
Started college and catching these 3am pacific lck and lpl games are super tough. W spoiler plant
What a nice ideia!!! league / some content @michaell3128
It strengthens his brand but lessens his income.
1:13:11 that's what peak league of legends look like. Just gorgeous. You're unlucky if you missed that part. Never knew LPL would pull out that strats
Damn I didn't know Poby played for BLG in Game 4
@@Riptide09they also had Sally sub in for game 5 and play his iconic malzahar
Sneaky has started to add other react content/gameplay in stream to the end of those series that end 3-0. His editor puts post game interviews etc
Sneaky has always had anti spoiler stuff to the end of his videos he has his outro music the DK country theme on repeat and a picture of the rest of the bracket.
@@tealover7058 lol what is this statement? OP said he(sneaky) started adding end of the games interview from the broadcast and gameplay of his stream that day. i don't understand why you brought it the bracket with music if the idea is viewer retention and not a single image at the end with or without music. OP gave a statement about an idea cadrel could use as well but might not work here since cadrel has a bunch of clips videos so that why hes just keeping the plant.
ANTI SPOILERRRRR
no need for spoiler alert.
i can smell 3-0 lplxlck season 1.
No need anti spoiler 5-0 WBG for sure
Ty, pls put this in all Videos 🙏🏾
Wtf u mean by anti spoiler . Been waiting for the video for 4 hours i had to do sm
yes please every video. Thank you
About what Caedrel said at the end of the video: this is exactly why if I’m watching the series at work, or even sometimes at home, and I know I won’t be needing my phone for anything for a while, I let the spoiler plant play in the background. I know how important viewer retention is for the algorithm so I want to do my part, no matter how small an impact it has, to drive that number up just a little bit. Thanks for the plants, Caedrel, I’ll make sure to keep watering them for you
Exactly! I am so happy he explained it too. Because, for those of us who support our Rat King ❤, we have zero issues letting the spoiler plant run in the background to keep those numbers up!
damn, that last line was a banger
@@jtaylor119 does it only make a difference when we let the video run through completely? skipping to the end and "watching" the last minutes probably doesnt change anything, does it?
I usually watch the series and fall asleep so i can say ive been leaving the spoiler plant open then rewatch it again the next morning 😂
Same here. I watch it on a computer so I just let the plant run on a background tab.
At everyone: Just keep the video open in a tab running through the spoiler plant. That way the viewer retention is still fine and we can keep appreciating them doing us a favor for keeping it.
Bump
Thank you for that, I would never think about it myslef
Me in the RUclips app on tablet leaving it open and not being able to watch anything else: o7
@@timwildauer5063 yea i do this on my desktop/laptop if i originally watched it there, otherwise this completely blocks my mobile/tablet use and drains the battery lol
Sally R goes crazy
Really really respect the spoiler plant. I know it's not much, but I leave my tab open and "watch" the spoiler plant every time to help with the algorithm!
just give us already the BLG GENG 5game worlds finals banger rest of the teams are not even close
The gap of LPL and LCK's top 1 team and the rest is huge
don't be delusional geng could easily beat BLG 3-0
GenG + Worlds = you already know how it izzzz..
@@castel7421 easily is the delusional part
@@venture1701 is that why GenG lost to TES in the World Cup just 2 months ago? lmao
About spoiler plant: Dom has been putting old edited videos from way before. That include him playing with popular streamers of the time. You could technically try to put some nostalgic videos as well to keep retention :)
Agree. I watched those videos to the end.
Ngl BLG and Gen G look like they’re an Elo higher than everyone else
TL will embarrass both this year. Am I huffing cope? Yes. But sometimes cope is all we got.
@@generationxpvpbruh t1 might not even reach world they literally got swept by hle and damwon might eliminate them. I know they won 4 worlds and won it last year but this is a new year gen.g already break their curse and blg just gotten better
@@shin29534 TL and T1 are two diferent teams btw
@@shin29534 He's talking about Team Liquid and not T1 😭😭😭
dude hate is flowing in your veins you cant even read @@shin29534
I LOVE THE SPOILER PLANT RAT KING
knight are bin are always winning lane it's insane they are the lpl goats
I appreciate the anti spoiler plant. I love watching the vods and hearing your insight. Can’t wait for worlds!
1:04:04 the most horrible sequence of handshakes/fistbumps 😂
This whole series feels like the big brother overpowering his little brother while letting him get a few small victories here and there.
Just keep the video open to support Sally, No?
Yup! I love that he explained it so we now know a small way to support our Sally ❤
Idk if the algorithm is bad for me but I search for your profile when I don’t get a new video recommended - great series
1:07:19 we love you Spoiler Plant
Hearing your thoughts on the spoiler plant only made me love and respect this channel more. So Happy to be a sub!
Really appreciate the spoiler plant. Will make sure to leave it playing and open a seperate tab from now on
Same! I appreciate he explained. Helps us help him! ❤
We love the spoiler plant. Thanks for caring us about us!
1:24:10 the most insane play off all series
Random idea I had, I love spoiler plant, but I love your analysis more. It might be a lot, but if we could just get 10-20 more minutes of you talking about the game I'd be stoked. Thank you so much for all that you do!
I think instead of caedrel instantly putting spoiler plant in after the match he could show the post game interviews acting as spoiler protection. And spoiler plant later. I would watch the interviews and his insights on them and i'll boost viewer attention...
What a legend, I’ll keep my spoiler plant chilling in another tap because I respect you for doing this 👊🏼
Same! Support Sally, our Rat King!
You’re a real one caedral, you can just put one of your league games instead of the spoiler plant. Some people might watch which will bring it up somewhat
No worries, I'll leave the spoiler plant running in the background - I gotchu fam
Same!
I feel really bad for Tarzan's fifth consecutive runner-up. He's a real trophy-worthy Jungler, but it feels like the sky is blocking his coronation. 😢😢😢
Thank you so much for spoiler plant, makes the viewing experience so much better. Gonna keep it up in the background and let it play out to help, appreciate your vods greatly.
Respect for keeping up the spoiler plant, we appreciate the commitment.
Sally says the line and the game _immediately_ starts turning around. Absolute cinema, hope that never changes
Thanks for keeping the plant! it really improves the viewing experience. Id rather watch a twitch vod than a youtube summary with spoilers (knowing who wins just kills the tension for me). The plant keeps the best of both worlds!
1:06:47 i think your big to the point of at least for these high stakes games being able to tank the viewer retention has the viewers that watch these games are doing so from the notifications or the channel anyway
Damn, nobody comes even close to Bin when it comes to playing renekton. I swear his rene just deals more xd
Why not add other content from stream in, in place of the blank spoiler plant screen? This would allow you to retain more viewers via entertainment rather than just goodwill, while also allowing you to not spoil 3-0 results.
Lmk if you want help with this type of strategy stuff man, I used to be a Sales Director for an AI company so this type of work was basically part of my day job. I love gaming systems (still shit at just gaming tho).
soo Caedrel held his side of the bargan by keeping the plants, now we should all like his videos from now on to counter measure that viewer retention debuff by him adding anti spoiler plant!
Now we just need to watch the spoiler plant on every video guys!!
its the right move, spoiler plant keeps bringing people back to this channel, that plus your commentary of course. You could put a message on the spoiler plant to mute and keep playing in the background or something
1:32:04 that jump scare made me choke on rice
just helping the rat king viewer retention issue XD
Dang that elk guy is pretty good
Daeny can get you to the finals but you are on your own from then LUL
Hey Caedrel, I basically never comment on videos, but wanted to say mad respect for keeping the spoiler plant. It genuinely affects my enjoyment of the games, which I watch exclusively through your twitch and RUclips channels.
I’m guilty of forgetting to like RUclips videos, but considering your sacrifice, I’m committed to liking every video of yours that I watch to help out your algorithm in return. I invite the rats to join me in this in support of you!
Thank you so much for the high quality, interesting, funny and entertaining content Caedrel, big love from Wales❤️
thank you for plant, leaving comment to hopefully balance out engagement stats somewhat
Suggestion for the Spoiler Plant: (Like if you agree)
What if there would be some kind of content of the Stream, Gameplay, Analysis, or just some good music. It wont solve the problem but it could make a small diffrence.
Thx anyway for the great content you provide.
Thanks for caring about us over the algorithm. I’ll watch the video till the end while I’m working. Much love.
Thks for keeping putting the spoiler plant, that is just so good as a spectator.
BIg big greetings from france !!
yeah i do really appreciate the spoiler plant i mean it just completely changes the mindset while watching like i actually thought this was going 5 games
Don't put spoiler plant, put the continue live stream parts of any content. This way u gonna have people watch after match and have the monetize.
1:00:15 AFTER the penta they're STILL down 4k, what a fucking play
Gathering infos for pick ems im distungily in xD place 7000
After a 3-0 in a big hype series I would watch you break down the biggest moments or whatever you want doesn’t matter instead of plant
Hey Editor/Marc, firstly, God bless you. Blessed by the unapologetic frantic nature of your success.
My point to comment (beside algorithm) is to say that I will try to leave spoiler plant section of videos going in a separate tab, but it would be even better if editor would include analysis sections (unedited so as to not create a larger workload with minimal payoff) which were in the post game sections and post series section of vods.
Not sure if that would work for what y'all are going for, but might increase natural retention, beyond super-nerds like me leaving it open.
Appreciate sticking with the spoiler plant, commenting for (comparatively small) algo boost ❤
44:18 "Just fuckin dive top, easy innit." lmfao I love this rat
So knight was really the best jdg player not ruler lol
I often watch these games on my second monitor and when the game ends and I'm focused on something else on my main monitor I be just chilling watching the spoiler plant x)
Appreciate you bringing back the plant, truly care about your community hell yeah!
Thank you for keeping the spoiler plant
‘Mercilessly inting’ cracked me up , it was too good
On which website can you watch LPL live?
So much respect for keeping plant. Quality content creator
This match was insane! I can't believe how close it was at times. BLG really pulled through, but gotta love WEIBO's teamwork too. 😅 It's like a rollercoaster! Anyone else feel like their heart stopped at the final moments? 🎢
That Tarzan spear through the creep wave was absolutely disgusting, what a god
So i now just have a spoiler plant running in the background for 40 minutes :)
And thank you Caedrel for still having it!!
I love how they call K'Sante 飞机, meaning "airplane", because he kidnaps someone and flies across the map with them lmao
Mr. Caedrel thx like always for the quality video, and the spoiler plant, despite its downsides. Idk mayhaps to keep up engagement do like analytics at the end instead of spoiler plant for so long. Or just, since 3-0s are also so bad for it, maybe also consider not using your ult to ensure one. Like at 54:12 . 😂
Really caedrel caught caster cursing WBG tho 54:12
Also ON was not inting his ults but it was actually 5head gigabrain play so Elk can land his penta in finals
I still question myself which is worse/better
A 3-0 game where both teams played really close neck and neck 40+ deaths in total with 500 gold diff back and forth game where the game could end either way but in the end only one team monopolized the wins.
Or a 3-2 game where all games were just landslide snowball victory from the victors.
I'd rather watch the 3-0 tbh
my god, Caedrel actually cares so much about quality, legend
As Lck fan,maybe LPL can win this worlds to keep the comp alive after korea winning it back to back
Korea already won back to back 2022 DRX 2023 T1
You are actually the only creator I watch through the subscription page on the phone... Super appreciate the spoiler plant ❤
If it makes you feel any better, I always fall asleep listening to your voice so I have watched pretty much every spoiler plant 100%.
3:39 someone tell me how this Q goes straight through 3 minions and hits enemy champ
its so funny to see a high elo player backseat game with pros
Just saying, I saw on lolesports that the final was today, right away went to your channel and watched it, thank you for keeping the beloved spoiler plant !
Im begging for a 5 game banger one of these days...
thank you for spoiler plant!!! it kinda ruined the t1 vs hle series not having one 😭😭
Rat King being GOAT King. Much appreciated for the spoiler plant
We should all just let the video continue to run once the spoiler plant comes up. Just keep it open and open a new tab.
34:56 freaking Dota2 vision micro in League....
Thanks for tanking the algorithm L to give your frogs a better experience we love you Sally xoxo
Didnt watch any lpl games this year, didnt Caedrel said that wbg would be doomed without TheShy? But they still got to grand finals
Compared to worlds finals...
@@alex2005z worlds is just a combined lpl lck
everyone should just watch the spoiler plant tbh cuz this is a chad ass move
RUclips needs to be lobbied to provide some spoiler-blocking service considering how much content features competitions like this (even highlight videos of sports games can be spoiled): perhaps there could be an option to add a block of "spoiler" time to the end of a video, and when moused over or otherwise looked at simply repeats footage from earlier in the video. This block of time would be considered "unwatchable" for the purposes of the algorithm.
Also they need to include an option to label videos as "spoilable" so that the first comment on mobile can't be visible. Or something like that.
I am a big enjoyer of the spoiler plant, thank you for keeping it
Sally's ult is back off Cool down, and it's used immediately.
Let Us All Let the Anti-Spoiler Plant Play. I appreciate your transparency with us.
Man 3-0 finals are so fkn boring it's so sad.
29:38 Knight is using left handed mouse???? 🤯
yup
he's leftie so yes.
fun fact: he used to cross his hands when playing at first (left hand on mouse which was on his right side, and right hand on keyboard on his left side) which was hilarious to watch.
still rekt ppl tho
3:11 i Thought my screen broke
When caedrels chat makes the most basic jokes making fun of people during LCK games he always says “mods”, “chat you’re so ill”, “stop flaming people” but when he streams LPL and people are being blatantly racist in chat he doesn’t say shit.
I’m not accusing him of being a racist or anything but it’s funny how different the environments feel.
Well a lot of Chinese people are racist and he wants their viewership so...
He's just afraid of the lck fanbases, those people are mental.
@@Antoine-du5qolol
example?
i'm glad you acknowledged the spoiler plant thing.
Weibo scrapped it out but lost nothing but respect for them
Would it help with viewer retention if we skip to the end of the video, and in that way “finish” the video?
Spoiler plant is great :) I don't always get them pushed, but the youtube algorithm is also heavily based on what you've recently searched for anyway, so it's easy for 'normal' content id be interested in to just not be pushed to me ; I almost always find your vids just by going to your channel cuz its the best way to keep up to date with other regions and re-watch my main region games from your POV even tho I watched it live cuz Pedro commentary and insight is just unbeatable
Hopefully BLG can bring the same form to worlds.
My Sally is always top of my algorithm. Sally the GOAT.