Il-2 Radio Navigation - Luftwaffe
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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This lesson teaches you how to perform radio navigation using the AFN-1, AFN-2, and Radio Compass installed in the Luftwaffe aircraft in the Il-2 Great Battles series.
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It always amazes me how much Electronics were availible back then.
I recently also learned that Kurt Tank, the lead FW, designer was a electrical engineer, which explains a lot.
Thank you for the great vid!
This tiny stuff opens me a whole world of navigation
There is SO much to learn in this game. Unlike many other games that require button mashing this one makes the player virtually sit through flight school (if they want to become any good) and heaven forbid, actually use their noggin.
One day I'll be making something that will be much more comprehensive so you can start with a trained pilot's knowledge without necessarily needing sim specific things
I know this is a older comment but just wanted to add that something that i really like about this game is how it has gotten younger people more interested in history.
I have been reading about WW2 and WW1 for a few decades and i really enjoy when i hear people these days talking about how much horsepower their particular version of the 109 has or how this particular Mustang didn't have that option or how "that plane wasn't built that year " or how a certain battle didn't turn out a certain way, thats because they have been studying up on this stuff while enjoying the game, music to my ears.
IKR?! As the saying goes, those ignorant of their history are doomed to repeat it. We never learn do we? America today reminds me of the fall of the Roman Empire with the same internal decadence promoting rot from within except we lasted only a tenth of the time.
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Req, if I haven't said it before I'll say it now: You are an absolute _legend!_
Cheers Meri, good to know that even though I forgot the Stuka in this video you still think that LOL
@@RequiemsACTL Absolutely. I don't think there's a single other content creator that helps, educates and engages with the Il-2 community better. You might've forgotten my beloved Stuka but you are still da man. 🤙
Clear, precise and beautifully done as always!
Thank you sir
Cheers Thomas :-)
Great video! (as always)
Now I've finally been able to figure out how to make a target approach on a level bombing mission with corrected wind angle. In the past I've worked out a method using the in-game nav marker. But since I turned that marker off, I had no idea how to fly level bombing missions.
Now I know, thanks to you!
Awesome to hear :-)
Excellent explanation. Great channel.
I believe the Ju-87 D-3 uses the AFN-2, just beneath the turn & bank indicator. :D
Yeah it does. I guess I left one out!
Excellent job!
Good stuff (as always) Req so thank YOU!! Another instrument I can strike off my "what the hell's THAT for" list! PLUS (this always intrigues me) who the HELL would actually take the time out to 'thumbs down' a video like this? Incredible....
There's always 1 or 2 and I don't care :-)
@@RequiemsACTL It actually makes me physically smile when I see that someone has actually taken the time to do it though. I mean, have they watched it and come across something that their Mother found offensive whilst she was in the same room or something? Or maybe their Mother has indignantly snapped at them about . "How you're doing your instrument check wrong" or something? Ha! Ha! I've a strange brain that thinks strange things about a lot of stuff...
Thumbs downs given buy folks who’s brain get melted by basic IFR principles, met a few of those clowns during flightraining as well :D Great vid btw, perhaps you can teach people how to use rate one turns to not use the compass during turns.
Thank for this great help
No worries!
I'm not sure I can completely agree with you. At around 5:43, you are flying HDG 090 on a 120° "radial" from the NDB station, and the homebound radial is 300°. You are flying now to HDG 090, and start your turn left through 360° to 300°, it's totally obvious, that the northbound arc of the turn will bring you north from your original point with or without any wind direction or strength, and during this process, your homebound course will decrease due to the geometry of the turn. I think the wind drift can only be determined after you finished your turn, lined up your heading with the homebound course at that moment, then start looking at the homebound needle drifting in any direction, and if so, you can then "lead it" with your heading. Just my 2 cents...
Great vid. I was in the process of figuring this out myself after I was lost in a nightly career mission on the Moscow map which is very hard to navigate on without player aids (such as the GPS or visual markers which are switched off in my missions). However on 3:26 of the video there is a small error imo. The second value in the second column (3000 m height) of the table should read 50 km instead of 90 km.
Thanks for the video! When using the AFN-1 or -2, would it be possible to find your bearing to the NDB initially before correcting your heading for a known wind so you fly a direct course to the beacon instead of homing, or is that technique not typically used?
Yep you sure can. You'll just have to pay closer attention to the AFN needle instead so you don't blow past the center instead of flying to an approximate heading.
Good video overall! Though I don’t doubt that wind had something to do with it, the main reason that first turn resulted on a course of 295 rather than 300 is because of the diameter of the turn.
Also, check the units of height in two different range scales shown around 3:38. Km?
Thanks, yeah the turn's diameter did affect it as well which was worsened by the 40kt tailwind from the SE I put in for this mission. Having the turn helps with a useful segue into talking about wind correction. The range scale graphic is actually how I intended it to because of space restrictions I had, so I added the colour coding to differentiate between height and range. The height of the airplane is in white (m) while the ranges (km) of the AFN for each height are coloured with their arrows pointing to the scale on the instrument. Sorry if it looks weird, I did the best I could trying to display that info.
Thanks for all your useful tutorials Requiem. Just a question about the AFN-2 gauge...does the distance needle work fine in IL2? I always see that needle locked at top position ( 0 miles from station ). Thanks a lot for any feedback
Yep it works fine as long as an NDB is placed in the mission.
The Air Combat Tutorial Library Thanks a lot for feedback. I’m confused...really don’t know what I’m missing. Today I did a test...flying inbound a friendly field..the vertical needle worked fine...so I have been able to fly towards the station...even the small lights in the middle of the gauge worked fine ( just flashing for short time when I was over the station ), but the distance needle was always stuck on top. Do I need to activate it in any way? Thanks again for any hint
Really well done as I've never really understood the AFN1 and AFN2 devices. I'm a licensed GA pilot, and oddly enough still fly NDB approaches from time to time, so the concept isn't a problem for me...but making the kit work....well, that's a different matter. Also, no charts....so how can we determine where the NDB's are located? Are they indicated on the IL2 map? Is there a means of changing the NDB frequency or does the game do that for you as part of the mission?
Thanks Thomas. Yeah the NDBs are all tuned automatically, so if there is more than one for your team then whichever one is closest will be tuned (just a tradeoff in the simplification). This is not an issue if you're in SP of course as you only need one.... Although their placement is up to the mission creator you can expect them to be placed at an airfield pretty much every time. In MP though there could be more than one, but either way you'll still get taken back to the closest friendly airfield.
Thank sir, I've really enjoyed your series of videos.
Wait I think I missed something. How did you arrive at 10 degrees for the wind correction. Is that on the radio compass?
Have anyone played Classic Il-2 Sturmovik? How do radio compasses function there? Seems different to me, like the aircraft symbol is pointing to the nearest NDB.
Is there a way to choose the base you want to return to?
No its bascially wherever the beacon is placed that's where it sends you. If there are multiple then I believe it just sends you to the closest one
2:24 the red triangle doesn't mean autopilot's heading,it means current magnetic heading.Look at this:i.ebayimg.com/images/g/B5EAAOSwJQxdOg--/s-l1600.jpg.I have copied the contents here:
Das Funkpeilanzeigegerät mit eingebautem Funkpeiltochterkompaß und automatischer Funkbeschickung dient zur Anzeige der entsprechenden rw. Großẞkreispeilung und gleichzeitig zur Betätigung des Peilrahmens(Peil 5).Die Kursanzeige auf der über 360° drehenden Rose(1) erfolgt durch die tochterfeste dreieckige Kursmarke(2).Der weiße Steuerstrich auf dieser Marke fällt mit der Längsachse des auf der Glasscheibe der Peiltochter eingeätzten Flugzeugabbildes(2) zusammen,das sowohl das Auffinden der roten Kursmarke als auch die Richtung des Senders zur Flugzeuglängsachse erleichtern soll.
Beim Aufsuchen des Peilminimums eines Senders dreht man mittels der Kurbel(4) die Peiltochter im Gerät und gleichzeitig über das Winkelgetriebe(5) und eine Welle den Peilrahmen.Solange der Kurs unverändert bleibt,wird die Einstellung der Kursrose[1] durch die Drehung der Peiltochter im Funkpeilanzeiger relativ zur roten Kursmarke nicht verändert.Wenn das Peilminimum gefunden ist,zeigt der Doppelzeiger(6) auf der Tochterrose[1] die Funkpeilstandlinie an,wobei der mit der Kursmarke P versehene Zeigerteil die rechtweisende Funkpeilung angibt,wenn die Fehlweisung(abgetr,von Ortsmißweisung und Deviation)an der Peilscheibe berücksichtigt wurde.
You can also refer to:www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-23470-funkpeilanzeigegeraet-pfa-r-1940,www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-23470-2-funkpeilanzeigegeraet-1942
Thanks for the clarification and extra info mkm fd. I simply correlated it to moving whenever I was using the level autopilot and altering the heading, so that makes more sense now. Thanks!
You are welcome.I thought the Funkpeilanzeigegerät was the same as ADF(Automatic direction finder) before I watched this video.ADF indicates relative bearing instead of magnetic heading.Thank you for your video.
Do they had a directional beams at the 40's?
I'm not sure
they had directional beams called the Knickebein system but this was for blind bombing. It required two stations' antennae to be physically turned towards the target, the radio beams crossing over the target and the bombaimer and pilot worked together to get the bomber aligned with the target and then released the bombs after a timer had run down. It was a more accurate way of bombing a large mass such as a city and any amount of aircraft could use it.
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That's some quick draw you got there!