So what they throw the flag they get their challenge and it's over. You cant just ignore a blown call that can be fixed just to save time. what if this happens in a tie game that determined which team would make it to the playoffs. you've not only taken away field position but also taken the ball away on a missed call. I'm not a vikings fan
I was looking through ftf shows from a few years ago and saw a bunch of comments begging for wildes to be taken off the show... crazy how far we've come
@@christopherweise438 exactly. Less than 2 mins with 80+ yards to go and no timeouts just to potentially tie needing a 2 pt conversion to do so. Its like we're living in bizarro world
@@MarkAS56 Nick and Wildes strayed into a sport that literally receives minimal or no coverage by most American Sports media unless it’s a huge event happening or an American(s) are doing well at it, so they joke that they started talking about a sport that doesn’t bring in profit like the Cowboys who came in right after that
Holding isn’t actually subjective, it’s probably a bit of mix, but there’s definite and rigid outlines for the penalty. But you’re right on plays like facemask, horsecollars, etc. Meanwhile penalties like DPI or defensive holding in which a ref can let players play like all game suddenly can be called in crunch time because the refs let the players play with a certain level of comfort so that in a critical juncture they retract what they’ve let the players play with all game long.
You can't review uncalled penalties. I wouldn't be mad if we add exception for facemask and horsecollar tackle, but i agree with the general rule: don't review uncalled penalties.
Yeah but they don’t review for penalties, like when they say “scoring plays are reviewable” they’re looking if a guy has both feet inbounds or cross the plane etc they never review a scoring play and see if there was a penalty anywhere and then make the call accordingly. The face mask was egregious but it’s in that gray area of the rules where you can’t review it/take it back
There should be a way you can make a play that can lead to injury reviewed for penalty, and there should be a way you can call it on reviewing a scoring play regardless
@@Kaitronoamv they don’t want to talk about those missed calls😂 nobody seemed to care about the throat punch last game 🤫 they aren’t ready to have that conversation 😂
Agreed. I would also add that these obvious plays don't even need to be "reviewable". This is where the "eye in the sky", or the "folks in NY" jump in to say, "we saw it". These bad calls/no-calls are so easy to fix if the league had the will.
@@RageDaug LA. Can't have the NFC West only sent the Chiefs to the playoffs. They'd lose revenue. And they have to keep Mahomes prominent so the NFL can generate stories and revenue off of a dynasty in the league, it's like refs are allergic to calling holding calls on the Chiefs. 😂
@@cesco1990 I 100% agree with the holding rarely being called against the Chiefs . I'm just saying the Big City Market conspiracy theories are struggling right now. If it was true, KC would not have been picked to be the dynasty.
No he wouldn’t, he would just say it’s bad officiating. If you don’t see a problem with the NFL being able to review uncalled penalties then you are just stupid
A non flag is not reviewable, regardless. The act of the score is, so to speak. Like in bounds, crossed the goal line, etc. So if Darnold had thrown the ball close to his knee hitting the ground or something like that, they could review whether he was indeed down first and safetied, or if he had released the ball first. If they reviewed a receiver getting his feet in bounds for a TD, they couldn't suddenly throw a flag for pass interference if they see it while watching the replay after missing it live.
@@MarkAS56 that's not what I said. It's a scoring play was my point. Just because some people want to see it their way doesn't change that fact. Even the NFL admitted it was a horrible "no call'. If that's the case, apply appropriate rules. Get the game right instead of all the controversy. You can't tell me that wasn't a penalty. Even the guy who did it knew it was immediately after. Hence the reaction.
Vikings could have gone 10-0 and the Media woulda told you it wasnt real. How does losing two competitive games to two really good teams put you on pumpkin watch? Smh
I don't think this game is proof that the Vikings are frauds. I think the Rams are an easy playoff team in this NFC, they will get back on track just like they did last year. The way I see it both of these teams are playoff bound.
I hate that they're minimizing the call because they still don't respect Sam Darnold as a qb. It doesn't matter if you believe if he would've driven them down the field to score. Wrong is wrong, and if that was Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, or any other high profile qb, they would've been way more critical
@@Mrstudlyxd Basketball has 2 min challange rule and it changed the game. Obviously there should be a limit to how many times you can challange and types of plays you can challenge. So 1 challenge under 2 min.
Chiefs get plenty of calls against them under 2 minutes, and that's not the only period of game play where people cry about controversial officiating moments supposedly benefitting the Chiefs, but keep crying victim. Whatever happened to accepting a loss? And when Chiefs fans rightfully point that out, we're told that WE'RE the ones crying? Good lord...
So the Vikings BARELY lose to the “best team” in the NFL and then get wrecked by the refs against the Rams but still had a chance. And that proves they can’t win the Super Bowl?! What a joke
I love brou and wildes snark at nick when he said cinncy doesn't play as good without both receivers. 16:47 To nick only purdy has to be good without the avengers
His gripe for not rocking with them has been Darnold, yet he's playing well enough to win and Nick is like..see the committee told you😒No sir, y'all really didn't
I get what Nick is saying, but there needs to be some sort of “blatant and egregious”missed call rule for things like this or the no call on the PI against the Saints in the playoffs years ago. I get that is very hard to draw a line around, but there are a few horrible missed calls every once in a while that everyone can agree should be able to be overturned. If nothing else, any play that results in a score could be challengeable for missed no-calls.
Vikings didn't get much of a break though... played Lions and Rams in the space 4 days played Lions at home and then away at Rams for second game. Tough task for any team
Nick, you're right, the Rams CAN win the Super Bowl, but they need to stay healthy. They should have beaten Detroit in week 1, they should have beaten Chicago. They could have beaten Green Bay (and probably would have if they were healthy). And if the Rams get to the Super Bowl they have a chance to win it. Hats off to you Nick.
@@obieosuji9986 in the UFL anything is challengeable. Penalties/missed penalties for example. The 1 per game would be new but it would prevent the constant challenging of flags that nick is worried about
@@LLuminated So replace all challenges with one challenge that can be done at any moment? I can see where that could go wrong but it’s still worth a try.
I mean I get what nick is saying about penalties. But it is such a bad look when we can all see the bad penalty and we know new York can as well. Got to swallow it. Got to be better.
One of the few teams, and the only NFC team, to give the Ravens a run for their money last year. Game went to overtime. Aaron Donald is a big loss for sure since then, but Puka in year 2 is an even more dangerous weapon, and Verse is progressing as the year goes on. Definitely a dark horse to win the NFC
@@jessepbigjdp and then they lost to the Lions so it didn't matter. And the Ravens are also a regular season team who will fold when they face the Chiefs like always
@@chasejohnson6990 the loss in the playoffs last year is 100% on the Rams coach for punting with like 4 minutes left in the game. So ridiculous it seemed scripted
The issue of "just make personal fouls reviewable" is that eventually, all the flags will be reviewable, and the last two minutes of a football game will be longer than the final two minutes of an NBA game.
@@unicornhearts this is an entertainment entity. Having endless challenges and overturns will be terrible for TV (how the sport makes most of it's revenue).
Wrong, the Vikings had the lead last Sunday against the Lions in the first qtr and at the end of the game they were leading 29-28. The Vikings were leading the Rams 10-0. So what are you talking about?
The refs literally couldn't see. People need to understand that just because you can see it from the TV camera doesn't mean the ref is in a position to see it. They have to stay out of the way and somehow position themselves to see everything while all the players are running around and blocking their view. The refs had no reason to throw a "maybe" flag because they didn't see anything. It they could see the TV angles they would throw the flag. Which is why they should designate someone that's basically a ref to be watching the broadcast and in the ear of the crew throughout the game.
No you only call a penalty if you are positive. Otherwise holding and pass interference would be called every play. The rule book doesn't say call in doubt penalties. If you want to make objective calls or no calls reviewable and include face mask that's fine. But throwing a flag every time there's reasonable doubt is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. A game would take 5 hours
And then what? Officials review and find a subjective hold on the offense they didn't originally see that was nowhere near the play?! It's disaster waiting to happen.
He seems to be but that’s because he is not too controversial outside of football and the rams fans are one of the more quieter fanbases. Stafford isn’t a star like other QBs are and he doesn’t have a lot of accolades or fanfare to trigger people
The way to do the challenge correctly would do it like the UFL does it. Anything is able to be challenged. But the coach must state the exact played and penalty they’re challenging. It worked in the UFL. It would work in the NFL. That said - Vikings weren’t winning this game.
I think a simple, preemptive flag to then have the meeting to discuss it would have prevented the whole fiasco. But their bird-watching and stammering made it so they missed their window. Not like that crew was shy about throwing flags all game.
now he has to overcome another obstacle. So I’m gonna support him. I’m gonna lift him up. “And I’m gonna be there for him. Because I see the way he fights. I see the way that he works. And I know who he is, as a person and as an NFL quarterback. And that’s all I have to say to address him”😁
Then it’s unfortunate for him. What if it did get called as it was supposed to and he still got hurt? Gonna give the Vikings a win because of it? Bad injuries happened all the time on routine tackles and hits in the NFL.
You don’t even have to change the rules. I thought all scoring plays were automatically reviewed? That’s a play that put points on the board so it should’ve been reviewed by default.
Didn’t the chief get an offside penalty against the bills that called back the touchdown? The Chiefs lost that game. So how the do the chiefs get all the calls?
@@joegardner851 Mahomes literally got punched in the throat in the last game. A Chiefs player leads the league in penalties, not to mention all stats related to penalties, including roughing the passer can be easily researched, but that doesn’t fit their narrative. They are tired of the Chiefs winning and don’t know how to cope.
@@b1foschiefs its pathetic. People make excuses for why their team. My team lost to the packers last week by a lot and had a lot of penalties. It’s not because it’s rigged, it because my team wasn’t prepared and play poorly. The results on the field showed. You don’t lose a game on one play. You lost it because you didn’t make enough plays. Like last night. The Vikings had opportunities and they couldn’t get the ball in the end zone. Even if they called it, they still had to go 82 yards with no timeout and go for 2 to tie the game.
Nick has an amazing point tbh about missed calls, but New York HAS to be able to call in and change a game changing blatant blown call. Funny how Rams seem to always get those
FTF pointing out the defender putting his hands on his head when Al Michaels and Herbstreit looked at the play about 10 times and didn't notice it once is... interesting
From the ref's point of view, Darnold had his back turned to him so there's no way to know if the defender grabbed the face mask or the shoulder pad. You can't flag things you THINK you see.
Rams were missing their top two WR, their best TE, multiple O-linemen, the defense wasn't good most of the year and Stafford is getting up in age, it's not the same as Purdy's situation
I agree with nick. Missed calls is apart of refereeing and if you can reveiw a non call it literally opens pandoras box for all kinda nonsense that hurts the game flow and the integrity of the game.
It's also ignoring that it wasn't just that Stafford didn't have his "Avengers", he didn't have an offensive line. Even now they still have a patchwork offensive line with a rookie center, that gets penalized a lot
Love how Bru calls out Nick for his double standard on Brock Purdy when talking about Stafford difference between having his stars and not having them.
He's absolutely correct in regards to Nick's takes on Purdy. However, he's kind of soft selling what Stafford has dealt with as of late....it's not just missing his top WR's....the offensive line has been decimated as well.....Rams were running out some offensive units before put together with shoestrings, bubble gum and a prayer.
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So what they throw the flag they get their challenge and it's over. You cant just ignore a blown call that can be fixed just to save time. what if this happens in a tie game that determined which team would make it to the playoffs. you've not only taken away field position but also taken the ball away on a missed call. I'm not a vikings fan
Nick Wright always wrong on all his picks
And I like him and his show
Lol. Now we don't like nick and think wildes is the leader
You can already challenge DPI non-calls
I was looking through ftf shows from a few years ago and saw a bunch of comments begging for wildes to be taken off the show... crazy how far we've come
Crazy!
I also took Nick a few months to warm up to Wildes
Huh?? We wanted Brandon and CC off that was it
Wildes was the best since day 1
It was new and different at first
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Is this wildes on his burner account ?
Maybe. he is dashing though. The bad boy of sports analyst @@erickapac1261
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Im from Mali , living in Charlotte NC
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Bruh, when nick said this vindicated the committee and it panned to a Wildes and Bru dead stare I died hahahaha
Same!!!😂😂😂
“Ugh. I hate when he’s right..”
Both all-time FTF facial expressions lmao
@@ImShep117he wasn't even right😂 Vikings are still 5-2 if Vikings win again is the committee wrong again?😂
Brou like: 😟🤔
Aren't all scoring plays Reviewable?? A Safety is a scoring play.
Not for penalty unfortunately unless it’s grounding
They are reviewable but that’s only if players had possession of balls, feet in, stuff like that. If it’s a penalty you can’t review that itself
Bro everybody saw it what’s the point of reply if you can’t even change a call or missed call
They can review if it is a Safety or not. But they can't review a no call penalty.
Non calls are not reviewable
If that missed call would have cost the Chiefs a win Nick would be screaming from the rooftops.
Ha
The refs probably wouldn’t have missed the call. 😂
@@jordangardiner6962 how did it cost them the win? Plz explain
Even without that play the Rams had a 98% chance of winning that game. Did the refs miss the call?....YES. Did it effect the likely outcome?.....NO.
@@christopherweise438 exactly. Less than 2 mins with 80+ yards to go and no timeouts just to potentially tie needing a 2 pt conversion to do so. Its like we're living in bizarro world
While a score review wouldn’t normally look at an uncalled penalty, HOW he scored for the safety is what would be reviewed.
Right, he facemasked the QB to get the safety.
But you still have never been able to add a penalty when it wasn’t called
Nick being SO DESPERATE to take shots at Purdy is getting disgusting. 2:47
Only because Brou is so desperate to pretend Purdy is good
@@JoelGarcia-lu3twNot as good as your mother's top game I agree.
@@JoelGarcia-lu3twPurdy is good. Not great. But good.
@@greenm0bsta889his mother must be an all timer 😂 Purdy is on a crazy trajectory for his career
Typical joo
Nick's casual line about tennis at 9:10 was so funny lol
Honestly they need to sprinkle some of those in more often, just for sh!ts and giggles
Dude, I'm listening to this at work and it hurt so bad to hold in my laugh . Gotta pay back Fox Sports! (are we sure that's a joke??)
@@paulbrusuelas6706one of those jokes where it's funny bc it's true haha
I must have missed things recently and not be privy to certain info, I'm missing thr joke here.
@@MarkAS56 Nick and Wildes strayed into a sport that literally receives minimal or no coverage by most American Sports media unless it’s a huge event happening or an American(s) are doing well at it, so they joke that they started talking about a sport that doesn’t bring in profit like the Cowboys who came in right after that
Nick called it when you lose to Detroit you lose twice
It had nothing to do with Detroit 😂
@@deshantepeterson3263 you need to hear what nicks take was
@@deshantepeterson3263everyone who's played the Lions this year (thus far) lose the next week.
That could be true, but away teams have lost 57% sunday-thursday games
Refs won the game, lol. Not a real thing. 😅
Challenge face masks… it’s not a subjective, not holding
So true. A face mask is either there or isn't there, no guesswork at all. It should be reviewable.
Holding isn’t actually subjective, it’s probably a bit of mix, but there’s definite and rigid outlines for the penalty. But you’re right on plays like facemask, horsecollars, etc. Meanwhile penalties like DPI or defensive holding in which a ref can let players play like all game suddenly can be called in crunch time because the refs let the players play with a certain level of comfort so that in a critical juncture they retract what they’ve let the players play with all game long.
Regarding the facemask penalty; it's a scoring play due to the safety, so it should be reviewable as all other scoring plays are.
You can't review uncalled penalties. I wouldn't be mad if we add exception for facemask and horsecollar tackle, but i agree with the general rule: don't review uncalled penalties.
Yeah but they don’t review for penalties, like when they say “scoring plays are reviewable” they’re looking if a guy has both feet inbounds or cross the plane etc they never review a scoring play and see if there was a penalty anywhere and then make the call accordingly. The face mask was egregious but it’s in that gray area of the rules where you can’t review it/take it back
There should be a way you can make a play that can lead to injury reviewed for penalty, and there should be a way you can call it on reviewing a scoring play regardless
Wonder if Nick would feel the same if it happened to his Chiefs.
It has happened to his Chiefs...
@@Kaitronoamv they don’t want to talk about those missed calls😂 nobody seemed to care about the throat punch last game 🤫 they aren’t ready to have that conversation 😂
No because he is Chiefs D rider
You mean if Mahomes gets throat-punched or something?
NFL needs to look at the UFL and adopt the the super challenge. both NFL and College Football once again gonna have AWFUL missed calls this weekend
Agreed. I would also add that these obvious plays don't even need to be "reviewable". This is where the "eye in the sky", or the "folks in NY" jump in to say, "we saw it". These bad calls/no-calls are so easy to fix if the league had the will.
What do you mean "awful calls"?? The NFL wants big city teams in the playoffs. It brings them profit, it was a great call from the refs for the NFL. 🤫
@@cesco1990 KC is not a big market city.
@@RageDaug LA. Can't have the NFC West only sent the Chiefs to the playoffs. They'd lose revenue. And they have to keep Mahomes prominent so the NFL can generate stories and revenue off of a dynasty in the league, it's like refs are allergic to calling holding calls on the Chiefs. 😂
@@cesco1990 I 100% agree with the holding rarely being called against the Chiefs . I'm just saying the Big City Market conspiracy theories are struggling right now. If it was true, KC would not have been picked to be the dynasty.
Nicks right about penalty reviews
Uh huh then when it happens to Mahomes in the last 2 minutes and it's unreviewable, you'll see Nick back here, "They need to make it reviewable"
Exactly, he's so insufferable now that refs are cheating for the chiefs like Brady in the past. Rigged league.
No he wouldn’t, he would just say it’s bad officiating. If you don’t see a problem with the NFL being able to review uncalled penalties then you are just stupid
Exactly 💯
He screamed about a call where his guy was 5 yards offsides lol
The thing is Mahomes will never be in that situations cuz the refs would give him the flag
I'm not a fan of either team... But "every scoring play" is supposed to be reviewable. Is a safety not a scoring play?
A non flag is not reviewable, regardless. The act of the score is, so to speak. Like in bounds, crossed the goal line, etc. So if Darnold had thrown the ball close to his knee hitting the ground or something like that, they could review whether he was indeed down first and safetied, or if he had released the ball first.
If they reviewed a receiver getting his feet in bounds for a TD, they couldn't suddenly throw a flag for pass interference if they see it while watching the replay after missing it live.
@@MarkAS56 that's not what I said. It's a scoring play was my point. Just because some people want to see it their way doesn't change that fact. Even the NFL admitted it was a horrible "no call'. If that's the case, apply appropriate rules. Get the game right instead of all the controversy. You can't tell me that wasn't a penalty. Even the guy who did it knew it was immediately after. Hence the reaction.
I couldve sworn all scoring plays are reviewed. So why is a safety not reviewable for a penalty?
Literally!!
Darnold played very well. Had a dropped touchdown as well. The Darnold disrespect is just insanity
Nick is spraying his shorts these last two games.
Exactly but he missed Addison open on a play
@@SalihTheViking tried but the Nailor dropped touchdown would have helped. I think it would have been a touchdown anyways.
Vikings could have gone 10-0 and the Media woulda told you it wasnt real. How does losing two competitive games to two really good teams put you on pumpkin watch? Smh
Funny cuz they literally did go 10-0, then completely fell apart. Sam Darnold is a bad QB. Bad QB = inevitably bad team
I don't think this game is proof that the Vikings are frauds. I think the Rams are an easy playoff team in this NFC, they will get back on track just like they did last year. The way I see it both of these teams are playoff bound.
Wildes is the best part of this show
The Rams were the most injured team in the whole league when the 49ers played them and still won. Broussard has no leg to stand on
Calm down, Nick. The Vikings had to travel go on the road across two time zones after a dog fight with the Lions. They're making the playoffs.
I hate that they're minimizing the call because they still don't respect Sam Darnold as a qb. It doesn't matter if you believe if he would've driven them down the field to score. Wrong is wrong, and if that was Mahomes, Lamar, Allen, or any other high profile qb, they would've been way more critical
I absolutely disagree with Nick. When challenging, you have to say the player that you think its on. That way, they wont be "finding" a flag
Ofcourse Nick disagrees on the 2min challange debate 😂. He knows what’s up and how that could affects his team.
Do you not understand his reasoning?
@@Mrstudlyxd Basketball has 2 min challange rule and it changed the game. Obviously there should be a limit to how many times you can challange and types of plays you can challenge. So 1 challenge under 2 min.
Chiefs get plenty of calls against them under 2 minutes, and that's not the only period of game play where people cry about controversial officiating moments supposedly benefitting the Chiefs, but keep crying victim. Whatever happened to accepting a loss? And when Chiefs fans rightfully point that out, we're told that WE'RE the ones crying? Good lord...
@@Messigoat1033I'm good with that as well as narrowing the scope of penalties that can be challenged, like for just personal fouls.
@@Mrstudlyxdwe’re not saying all penalties. Facemask is obvious start there
So the Vikings BARELY lose to the “best team” in the NFL and then get wrecked by the refs against the Rams but still had a chance. And that proves they can’t win the Super Bowl?! What a joke
Rams had the Vikings dead to rights, don’t take away how great the rams played on both sides of the ball
The rules are clearly designed to be as ambiguous as possible to 1. create drama and 2. Ensure the league can control outcomes when needed
First + wildes is a national treasure!
tfup like farmer
@@1ZosoLZit’s one of wildes many burners
I love brou and wildes snark at nick when he said cinncy doesn't play as good without both receivers. 16:47 To nick only purdy has to be good without the avengers
Nick is still wrong about Minnesota
His gripe for not rocking with them has been Darnold, yet he's playing well enough to win and Nick is like..see the committee told you😒No sir, y'all really didn't
I get what Nick is saying, but there needs to be some sort of “blatant and egregious”missed call rule for things like this or the no call on the PI against the Saints in the playoffs years ago. I get that is very hard to draw a line around, but there are a few horrible missed calls every once in a while that everyone can agree should be able to be overturned.
If nothing else, any play that results in a score could be challengeable for missed no-calls.
Matthew Stafford balled
most QB's would have killed it with the protection he had.
@@jiordone8563he had 3 rookies on the line protecting him. Wait till we get our starters back…
Vikings didn't get much of a break though... played Lions and Rams in the space 4 days played Lions at home and then away at Rams for second game. Tough task for any team
Yea I don’t put much stock into the national pundits because they have their biases lions and Rams back to back had trap written all over it
For Halloween yall should do a brous brew bit (similar to the cold brou) and put him as a wizard on the bottle
Credit to nick he always put respect on the rams and stafords name even when they were decimated by injuries
Nick, you're right, the Rams CAN win the Super Bowl, but they need to stay healthy. They should have beaten Detroit in week 1, they should have beaten Chicago. They could have beaten Green Bay (and probably would have if they were healthy). And if the Rams get to the Super Bowl they have a chance to win it. Hats off to you Nick.
Dear Wildes, love the show. When will the “Can’t Lose” segment return? It was one of my favorite. You guys should give it another try!
I think adding the UFL's "super challenge" rule can help these situations a lot. Each team gets one super challenge per game
What's that?
@@obieosuji9986 in the UFL anything is challengeable. Penalties/missed penalties for example. The 1 per game would be new but it would prevent the constant challenging of flags that nick is worried about
@@LLuminated So replace all challenges with one challenge that can be done at any moment? I can see where that could go wrong but it’s still worth a try.
@@obieosuji9986 I was thinking 2 regular challenges + 1 super challenge. Or maybe 1 and 1
😂😂😂@2:45 Nick shutting Down Brous b4 he can finish is atrocious take comparing Stafford to Purdy
I mean I get what nick is saying about penalties. But it is such a bad look when we can all see the bad penalty and we know new York can as well. Got to swallow it. Got to be better.
The Rams are THE most dangerous team in the league with a healthy offense.
One of the few teams, and the only NFC team, to give the Ravens a run for their money last year. Game went to overtime. Aaron Donald is a big loss for sure since then, but Puka in year 2 is an even more dangerous weapon, and Verse is progressing as the year goes on. Definitely a dark horse to win the NFC
@@jessepbigjdp and then they lost to the Lions so it didn't matter. And the Ravens are also a regular season team who will fold when they face the Chiefs like always
@@persistentlypathetic6820 barley lost to the lions without a pass rush last year.. there was a controversial no call at the end of that one too lmao
With the refs help
@@chasejohnson6990 the loss in the playoffs last year is 100% on the Rams coach for punting with like 4 minutes left in the game. So ridiculous it seemed scripted
The Honolulu Flu is real! 😂 especially if you play the Lions on Sunday then you play on Thursday
The issue of "just make personal fouls reviewable" is that eventually, all the flags will be reviewable, and the last two minutes of a football game will be longer than the final two minutes of an NBA game.
That shouldn’t matter more than getting it right. Byron Young TOLD you what he did when he put his hands on his helmet. That’s not a celebration.
You mean like last week when human refs called 28 penalties?
Can't put games in the hands of the officials to 'find' penalties. NOT good for the sport in any way.
@@unicornhearts this is an entertainment entity. Having endless challenges and overturns will be terrible for TV (how the sport makes most of it's revenue).
There's nothing wrong with Minnesota. It's the fact that they haven't had a lead in the last two games. When you have a lead, the defense can tee off
Wrong, the Vikings had the lead last Sunday against the Lions in the first qtr and at the end of the game they were leading 29-28. The Vikings were leading the Rams 10-0. So what are you talking about?
@@ginjazz4179no we lead 7-0 before the 🐑 drove down the field and tied it our defense was bad that game
I don't agree with Nick all the time... But the RAMS definitely should've won the Super bowl last year if puca gets that holding penalty
Nick got'em good, The COMMITTEE VINDICATION!!!
If there’s even a reasonable doubt they should call it and then pick it up after if needed, simple as that
The refs literally couldn't see. People need to understand that just because you can see it from the TV camera doesn't mean the ref is in a position to see it. They have to stay out of the way and somehow position themselves to see everything while all the players are running around and blocking their view. The refs had no reason to throw a "maybe" flag because they didn't see anything. It they could see the TV angles they would throw the flag. Which is why they should designate someone that's basically a ref to be watching the broadcast and in the ear of the crew throughout the game.
@@JustSomeGuy009He had the ball the whole time. It didn’t go anywhere. If they saw the sack, they could see the “tackle”.
@@JustSomeGuy009 Yet we have cameras everywhere and still missed calls, can’t win a game when it is rigged
No you only call a penalty if you are positive. Otherwise holding and pass interference would be called every play. The rule book doesn't say call in doubt penalties. If you want to make objective calls or no calls reviewable and include face mask that's fine. But throwing a flag every time there's reasonable doubt is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. A game would take 5 hours
It shouldn’t be all or nothing: facemask is an obvious enough/objective penalty that could be reviewed, where holding is too subjective
Blown calls shouldn’t happen in the era of replay plain and simple
Enjoy your six hour NFL game
They even have "replay assist" to overrule the on field crew.
@@skittybug6937I'm not enjoying ANY games when the refs are as likely to decide them as the players.
Wildes bring some love to the comments on one of your burners
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Any scoring play should be reviewed.
And then what? Officials review and find a subjective hold on the offense they didn't originally see that was nowhere near the play?! It's disaster waiting to happen.
*Pumpkin mode is classic* 😅
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@@unicornhearts *lol. You don’t agree i take It??*
Does Stafford get a pass because he doesn't play good unless hes with a great number one receiver?
He seems to be but that’s because he is not too controversial outside of football and the rams fans are one of the more quieter fanbases. Stafford isn’t a star like other QBs are and he doesn’t have a lot of accolades or fanfare to trigger people
Nick don’t wanna add the review at the end bc he knows the refs actually do help the chiefs in the 4th quarter lol
So screwing them over for 3 qtrs to keep teams in games doesn't matter? Only correct calls at the end of a game matter? Try again loser
I agree with Nick about challenging no calls. Slippery slope to enable
Nick knows if they do challenges on plays like that they’ll just call the chiefs offensive lineman who hold and grab on every big play.
Yea cuz every other team doesn't 😂😂😂 loser comment
Didn’t one of the cheifs offensive line players had the most penalties call on last year? So how do the refs help the cheifs?
The way to do the challenge correctly would do it like the UFL does it. Anything is able to be challenged. But the coach must state the exact played and penalty they’re challenging. It worked in the UFL. It would work in the NFL. That said - Vikings weren’t winning this game.
*player
“We just talked tennis, so to payback the network Dallas Cowboys.” 😂😂😂 That got me!!
Nick absolutely despises the fact that Lamar is playing the best ball of his career right now.
Hes worried Ravens are going to take the Chiefs out.
@GoldTau-l2d I mean, we are smack dab right in the middle of the regular season right now. Great observation.
Guess who's on pumpkin mode 🧐
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THE REFS‼️
They have never been good
They're a whole pumpkin patch at this point
@@Pkilla80
Yes but it seems to be getting worse 🧐
@@zackhurwitz9441
Loooool 😅 right in time for fall
"We just talked about tennis, so for the network: Dallas Cowboy" LMFAO NICK
Anyone else really tired of hearing about the Cowboys?
Im a cowboys fan and I'm tired of hearing or even watching them 😅
If everyone stop viewing it, then they will stop talking about it. It’s the same with the lakers
No. This is the best Cowboys season in recent memory.
I think a simple, preemptive flag to then have the meeting to discuss it would have prevented the whole fiasco. But their bird-watching and stammering made it so they missed their window. Not like that crew was shy about throwing flags all game.
now he has to overcome another obstacle. So I’m gonna support him. I’m gonna lift him up. “And I’m gonna be there for him. Because I see the way he fights. I see the way that he works. And I know who he is, as a person and as an NFL quarterback. And that’s all I have to say to address him”😁
What if Darnold sustained a serious neck injury on that non call? Yikes.
Then it’s unfortunate for him. What if it did get called as it was supposed to and he still got hurt? Gonna give the Vikings a win because of it? Bad injuries happened all the time on routine tackles and hits in the NFL.
great point KW! it was a scoring play
Where is the full video?
Of course Nick is sighing in disgust about reviewing flags in the last two minutes of the game.
I get the desire for it but you can’t make uncalled penalties challengeable, that opens a massive can of worms and would be a mess
This couldn’t have been more blatant and egregious. Byron Young told you what he just did when he put his hands on his helmet. He wasn’t celebrating.
That was a scoring play that should've been reviewed
There were 2 refs one in the back of the end zone and one right in frony of Darnold. No way. HE DIDN'T SEE IT! He didnt want to make that call!
And why’s that? Ohh that’s right it’s rigged. I’m trying to see how this helps the chiefs
You don’t even have to change the rules. I thought all scoring plays were automatically reviewed? That’s a play that put points on the board so it should’ve been reviewed by default.
But penalties aren’t reviewable anyway
The scoring play itself is reviewable, the penalty is not.
I love Nicks, Tex Watson look
The NFL preaches about player safety but allows unreviewed facemasks
Nick saying no to challenges because the chiefs get all those calls . 😂😂
Except they don’t
Didn’t the chief get an offside penalty against the bills that called back the touchdown? The Chiefs lost that game. So how the do the chiefs get all the calls?
@@joegardner851 Mahomes literally got punched in the throat in the last game. A Chiefs player leads the league in penalties, not to mention all stats related to penalties, including roughing the passer can be easily researched, but that doesn’t fit their narrative. They are tired of the Chiefs winning and don’t know how to cope.
@@b1foschiefs get at me when the chiefs win a game that isn’t centered around a flag or swallowed whistle.
@@b1foschiefs its pathetic. People make excuses for why their team. My team lost to the packers last week by a lot and had a lot of penalties. It’s not because it’s rigged, it because my team wasn’t prepared and play poorly. The results on the field showed.
You don’t lose a game on one play. You lost it because you didn’t make enough plays. Like last night. The Vikings had opportunities and they couldn’t get the ball in the end zone.
Even if they called it, they still had to go 82 yards with no timeout and go for 2 to tie the game.
Nick has an amazing point tbh about missed calls, but New York HAS to be able to call in and change a game changing blatant blown call.
Funny how Rams seem to always get those
Nick saying if micha plays cowboys win is weird since he never does good against the niners
Or in any big games in his career up to this point.
8:30 just expand the replay assist rules. Look at how they do it in high level Rugby. It works fine.
Coach shouldn’t be able to challenge but the booth should be able to talk to the refs and tell them hey broski you missed one
FTF pointing out the defender putting his hands on his head when Al Michaels and Herbstreit looked at the play about 10 times and didn't notice it once is... interesting
Wow surprise surprise , Nick Wright Champions yet another #1 pick QB Mathew Stafford and the rams … along with Burrow, baker, Caleb and Trevor
There's no way he can look at the entirety of that defenses roster and say again "they can win the Superbowl lmfao
That's exactly the 1st thing that came to my mind when he said that.
Brou trying to compare Stanford to Purdy doesn’t work. Stafford is actually good
Safety is a scoring play that should've been reviewable
If that woulda been Mahomes instead of Darnold, Young woulda been ejected from the game and suspended for the next game. Smh
And a 50k fine
Rams had game won weather the call was made or not ! Verse and Fiske were held all game
Scoring plays are automatically reviewed in the 2-min warning right? Why isn’t a safety a scoring play?
From the ref's point of view, Darnold had his back turned to him so there's no way to know if the defender grabbed the face mask or the shoulder pad. You can't flag things you THINK you see.
Dude the one picture they showed has the one ref staring straight at Darnold
This needs to be the 9 a.m show
Rams were missing their top two WR, their best TE, multiple O-linemen, the defense wasn't good most of the year and Stafford is getting up in age, it's not the same as Purdy's situation
They need NFL HQ to make this ecalls instantly
I finally see why Nick always hated on the vikings in power rankings. You were correct.
I agree with nick. Missed calls is apart of refereeing and if you can reveiw a non call it literally opens pandoras box for all kinda nonsense that hurts the game flow and the integrity of the game.
There's a difference between missing SOME "Avengers" and having NONE like Stafford has. Terrible point
It's also ignoring that it wasn't just that Stafford didn't have his "Avengers", he didn't have an offensive line. Even now they still have a patchwork offensive line with a rookie center, that gets penalized a lot
I’m not gonna say it but we all know why they won’t challenge penalties
When having a losing record makes u better than a 5-2 team
Love how Bru calls out Nick for his double standard on Brock Purdy when talking about Stafford difference between having his stars and not having them.
He's absolutely correct in regards to Nick's takes on Purdy. However, he's kind of soft selling what Stafford has dealt with as of late....it's not just missing his top WR's....the offensive line has been decimated as well.....Rams were running out some offensive units before put together with shoestrings, bubble gum and a prayer.