I had a new 15 unlimited and 5 other new Jeeps in my life so I'm no Jeep hater but. I went through all this stuff back in 08 on a 50 inch RZR like it was potholes. Braap, braap, braap. We covered this in seconds. You gotta have the right tool for the job. Before you all say it was about the narrow, we did the same a couple years later on a 900 that I think is about 67 inches. All without all that horrible metal scraping drama. The only problem we had was the Jeeps blocking the way in all the fun places.
$1,800 cash for my 67 Kaiser Jeep it runs but has not been started in a while has original Snow plow new tires original which everything's original v6 dauntless it's a sweet deal for an antique
this jeep here at 29 mins, that jeep is just awesome, I have never seen such good footage of articulation between frame and axles, patient driving gets ya through
We love hell's revenge and hell's gate one of the best trails out there.we go all over off roading in many different states Colorado has some good ones as well as NC Tennessee Kentucky Arkansas south Missouri texas hill country new Mexico Arizona.
42:38 made me think of all the people that say they can do Moab in their stock land rover or in their Subaru legacy... Yeah, you can do the bypass trails, but you're gonna need a built rig to do what he is doing.
I was wondering how they hydro-locked but now I get it- because of the severe angle, oil was able to flood the valve cover on the PCV side, and it sucked oil into the intake manifold and ultimately into the cylinder . So I guess the key is to unplug the PCV and plug it it off with a bolt before attempting these severe maneuvers :-)
@@harvesthawk5772 How else would it have gotten to Hell's Gate? You have to drive the trail to get there. I've done Hell's Revenge and it's no joke. They beat the shit out of the Kia doing it but they did it.
Great video, thanks for sharing. But please don't have peoole "holding" a 4500lb rig while being winched. Those guys were doing absolutely nothing except get killed if that rope broke. There's my PSA. Back to watching the great video.
Kinda pathetic when the jeep went on its side only one person went down to check to see if everyone was ok, while everyone else stayed topside standing around taking pictures.
The jeeps or airplane is the only way in and out of the base. The suicide bomber would need one of these jeeps and as you can see they move slow in the terrain. I think it's genius.
It was only a jeep. Just kidding. Seriously though, I dont like jeeps, but with some mods, they can seriously go just about anywhere. Respect from someone who does not like jeeps.
I sure hope you guys cleaned up your mess from changing that axle, you should never allow oil or grease to leak onto the ground! This is what gives off roaders a bad name.
Nice filming... too bad the spotter/spotters wasn't/weren't up to the same standards. In more than one place a few Jeeps followed great lines with no issues so by then the spotters should have been able to identify the best line for the following Jeeps, but he/they didn't. My guess would be possibly because the spotter giving directions was off to the driver side instead of from the video point-of-view, from which sometimes 10 feet ahead of time I could already see a Jeep was in trouble. A few examples: At 36:32... if a spotter said "Passenger" at that moment the Jeep wouldn't have slid down. Instead, it ended up requiring the winch out. At 42:10 the direction to the driver again should have been "Passenger". Since that wasn't the case, the next error at 42:38 made it even worse. Then from 43:06 to 43:22 the passenger tire should have been a foot farther up the wall... where the rubber marks are from the previous "successful" climbs. And the result for the red Jeep? A lot of smoke and knocking... a very unnecessary consequence to the poor spotting. Also I agree with McKinney Farms... whether steel or synthetic, nobody should be within 10 feet to either side of the cable from either end, and there should have been a weight bag on the line to drop the line if it broke. There is more than one video on YT showing a cable going through the windshield, one in which the driver was killed. In my opinion, there can never be enough to be said for safety. Every group should have a designated "guardian angel/safety dude" to provide over-watch of any recovery scenario... not to be the one "in charge" but the one to take in the wide-angle view to make sure other folks in the area are paying attention and/or are out of harms way. Just my 2 cents...
I agree. I made a similar comment about safety. However, my comment evoked a response about how the winch lines were not wire. As if that were to make it ok. lol Always someone justifying what is not safe.
Question, are those jeeps just for crawling? Or are these your daily drivers to? Just asking bycouse those rubicon’s are quite expensive overhere in the netherlands, especialy with the modifications you run on those vehicles.
RockYour4x4 well atleast you are using them right. I wish we had those terrain’s over here in Holland. But were a little country and we mostly go to germany or belgium or france.
I done hell's revenge several times in my jeeps.hells gate is a butt clincher but loads of fun.its not that much of a challenge in my jeep wrangler Rubicon with lift 40 tires 456 gears Dana 60 axles and a hemi engine in it.
NEVER, stand between two jeeps with tension on the line. Where was the dampener that should of been placed over the line about ten feet from the front of the jeep being recovered? Bunch of rookies....
No need for a dampener. Synthetic lines don't stretch like steel and don't recoil dangerously when they break. That said, they CAN break so I DO take exception to the people standing BEHIND the bottom vehicle. If that cable pops it's gonna be a yard sale and you obviously don't want to be in the way.
if that synthetic line would have ripped there would have been one guy dead possibly two. never stand below a vehicle on a hill, especially one that's tipping
Man talk about white knuckle suspense. All I could play in my mind was the cable snaps and yeah you know the rest. At least throw a couple coats to lower the risks if it does snap.
I'm selling my 67 Kaiser Jeep comes with snow plow new tires and canvas top motor and drivetrain run excellent all original windshield v6 dauntless recently rebuilt but has not been driven in a while sweet deal$1,800 cash
What a collection of dangerous and foolhardy behaviors with the yellow jeep: No spotters to help him, apparently no instructions before the obstacle about the line to take for this rookie, no reminders to turn off the motor if he tips, only one guy goes down to help him, the first time the cable was placed by the jeep up above it had to be at the worst possible angle (why not go to the far right of the up slope?), all these guys standing next to a cable with tension on it, the same guys standing downhill of the jeep, and on and on. A fun day could have turned deadly really quickly. Morons. Who is in charge?
You're NOT wrong., But clearly theyellow jeep didn't pay any attention to the line everyone else took, Then restarts the engine before the oil had drained back down.
Though I am not a jeep fanatic, occasionally I drop into these vids to see what the fuss is about. Now I know. Moab can keep the Jeep fanatics. Well over 20 + people around, spotters are poor. The winching times are dangerous and poorly supervised. 1st Jeep shown, you have a guy that goes down and thinks he is Hercules or some dumb chit and attempts to try pushing it back upright? Give me a break. This is not a hindsight situation. 20+ people around there and nobody thinks about putting something over that cable so that IF it should snap, it won't be flying towards anyone? Not to mention the people standing and sitting to the sides of the lines as the pulls are going on? Geeza people. The fun ends when people are severely injured or killed. ;) Try taking some safety courses before venturing out to nowhere.
Honestly Hell's Revenge is just a technically challenging trail. It's more about being a good driver than having an insanely built rig. I took my 03 WJ through it with just a 3" lift and 31" BFG KO2 tires. Even in the rain I was sticking to the rock better than the UTV group ahead of me.
Guys really, if your going to attempt this why use brand new jeep's, why not take older jeep bodies that you dont mind damaging for this sport. Maybe you'd be less apt to failure as your less worried about damaging yr toys....
I dont own a truck, but at 27:10 are you guys kidding, how could any of you think he could get out of that hole,really come on , if he had started moving up he prob would of flipped over. Guys stop it, yr jeeps are not invincible....
I had a new 15 unlimited and 5 other new Jeeps in my life so I'm no Jeep hater but. I went through all this stuff back in 08 on a 50 inch RZR like it was potholes. Braap, braap,
braap. We covered this in seconds. You gotta have the right tool for the job. Before you all say it was about the narrow, we did the same a couple years later on a 900 that I think is about 67 inches. All without all that horrible metal scraping drama. The only problem we had was the Jeeps blocking the way in all the fun places.
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing. Great looking group of rigs.
Awesome video! Great filming and editing. I like how there is no flashy BS, just wheeling.
Steinernm no flashy B's haha 👍 it's true though
Just watched this video again. The Escalator is tricky!!!
Trying to sell my 67 Kaiser Jeep
Finding myself being a keyboard spotter, im yelling at the screen, PASSENGER PASSENGER PASSENGER, but they just won't listen...
Me too
Trying to sell my Jeep
@@Mjakus12345 trying to sell my
@@melraven7105 - What jeep? I dont see one on your page. Give us a video. Purty please sir.
I have a Jeep Wrangler and I’ll never do this, but I love to watch people go out to the hills Jeepin’
Hells revenge is always a fun trail. Definitely one you have to do if you go to Moab. Looks awesome guys! 🤘
Trying to sell my 67 Kaiser Jeep
$1,800 cash for my 67 Kaiser Jeep it runs but has not been started in a while has original Snow plow new tires original which everything's original v6 dauntless it's a sweet deal for an antique
this jeep here at 29 mins, that jeep is just awesome, I have never seen such good footage of articulation between frame and axles, patient driving gets ya through
Bob Church no doubt the finesse award of the day goes to that guy. So smooth.
Very true. Most of the time when you get impatient and use the gas too much you end up doing damage
Nothing special about it.
We love hell's revenge and hell's gate one of the best trails out there.we go all over off roading in many different states Colorado has some good ones as well as NC Tennessee Kentucky Arkansas south Missouri texas hill country new Mexico Arizona.
That black 2 door from Tennessee is badass.
Trying to sell my 67 Kaiser Jeep
*Very well made!! Good job man!!*
So sick. Half the world's Dana 60s in one group!
Wow !!!! I’m not scratching my Jeep. I will just tell my rock crawling lying stories : p Great EDIT Guys
Been here, incredible
So awesome guys!
Great job on the video!! Hope to make it out there to Moab this next spring for the first time!
I have a 67 Kaiser Jeep I will take $1,800
The engine runs but it hasn't been started in a while been taking my time working on it but I have to get rid of it right away it's my baby 😭
21:10 the problem is, you need to lower your floor board so you can smash the accelerator harder....
This makes for a great suspense. But their lucky someone isn’t dead! Safety violations are numerous.
Trying to sell my Jeep
lucky you stay home watch ytube & dont go out,,eh..if i die doing what pleases me,who are you to stop me.?.my mother.?.fk off..
I wish I could like this twice, simply for making hells gate look easy
Rumrunner Adventures I think that Escalator is a harder obstacle. Only a few of us were able to conquer it.
@@rockyour4x4 either way, great video. Hats off👍
Haha yeah it's good stuff. Moab is way too much fun
It is easy
@@rockyour4x4 all those trails are easy.
I will have to go back and redeem myself on the escalator.
John Stoehr haha now that's the spirit!
I hope to make it there soon !! Great video!!
Nice video and nice jeeps.
Extremely impressive video! Great job!👍🏼
Not that impressed
Not impressive at all with all the safety issues they had these are rookie jeepers and any real jeeper would tell i the same
Rockyour4x4 do you know if that rear shaft that broke was a stock axle? Or chromoly? If so, what axle was it? D44 or d 60?
Tim DiGerolamo Music stock Sterling 10.25”
RockYour4x4 oh ok. Pretty beefy axle. Maybe better off with a stock 14 bolt vs stock s10.25?
42:38 made me think of all the people that say they can do Moab in their stock land rover or in their Subaru legacy... Yeah, you can do the bypass trails, but you're gonna need a built rig to do what he is doing.
nearly stock cars can do the escalator. narrow and long wheelbases do best on it.
Glad everyone was ok... that could have been way worse on Hell's Gate.
HOMEGUY 4X4 no kidding! I've seen much worse. Really glad it just flopped and didn't start rolling 😰
Rookies plain and simple.
I was wondering how they hydro-locked but now I get it- because of the severe angle, oil was able to flood the valve cover on the PCV side, and it sucked oil into the intake manifold and ultimately into the cylinder . So I guess the key is to unplug the PCV and plug it it off with a bolt before attempting these severe maneuvers :-)
You watch these videos and then you remember how a Kia Sorento did this trail stock.
Michael Hagood lolz yup
I seriously doubt the Kia did the entire trail. I'll need video proof to make me a believer.
@@harvesthawk5772 How else would it have gotten to Hell's Gate? You have to drive the trail to get there. I've done Hell's Revenge and it's no joke. They beat the shit out of the Kia doing it but they did it.
Great video, thanks for sharing. But please don't have peoole "holding" a 4500lb rig while being winched. Those guys were doing absolutely nothing except get killed if that rope broke. There's my PSA. Back to watching the great video.
rwills42 good advice. Never get behind it on a hill, etc.
Rookies
JK still dominating
Kinda pathetic when the jeep went on its side only one person went down to check to see if everyone was ok, while everyone else stayed topside standing around taking pictures.
The jeeps or airplane is the only way in and out of the base. The suicide bomber would need one of these jeeps and as you can see they move slow in the terrain. I think it's genius.
It was only a jeep. Just kidding.
Seriously though, I dont like jeeps, but with some mods, they can seriously go just about anywhere. Respect from someone who does not like jeeps.
It barely laid on it's side drama queen.
Trying to sell my Jeep
@@TheVikingSailor Apparently you've never been jeeping. It doesn't take much.
I sure hope you guys cleaned up your mess from changing that axle, you should never allow oil or grease to leak onto the ground! This is what gives off roaders a bad name.
don't worry its biodegradable
I just watched a video of a guy doing Hells Revenge in a crown victoria...
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance.
Nice filming... too bad the spotter/spotters wasn't/weren't up to the same standards.
In more than one place a few Jeeps followed great lines with no issues so by then the spotters should have been able to identify the best line for the following Jeeps, but he/they didn't.
My guess would be possibly because the spotter giving directions was off to the driver side instead of from the video point-of-view, from which sometimes 10 feet ahead of time I could already see a Jeep was in trouble.
A few examples:
At 36:32... if a spotter said "Passenger" at that moment the Jeep wouldn't have slid down. Instead, it ended up requiring the winch out.
At 42:10 the direction to the driver again should have been "Passenger". Since that wasn't the case, the next error at 42:38 made it even worse. Then from 43:06 to 43:22 the passenger tire should have been a foot farther up the wall... where the rubber marks are from the previous "successful" climbs.
And the result for the red Jeep? A lot of smoke and knocking... a very unnecessary consequence to the poor spotting.
Also I agree with McKinney Farms... whether steel or synthetic, nobody should be within 10 feet to either side of the cable from either end, and there should have been a weight bag on the line to drop the line if it broke.
There is more than one video on YT showing a cable going through the windshield, one in which the driver was killed.
In my opinion, there can never be enough to be said for safety.
Every group should have a designated "guardian angel/safety dude" to provide over-watch of any recovery scenario... not to be the one "in charge" but the one to take in the wide-angle view to make sure other folks in the area are paying attention and/or are out of harms way.
Just my 2 cents...
Mark Formo the red 4dr and 2dr Blue JK had to remove the plugs and evacuate the cylinders of oil before they could restart.
I agree. I made a similar comment about safety. However, my comment evoked a response about how the winch lines were not wire. As if that were to make it ok. lol Always someone justifying what is not safe.
@27:28 that blue TJ walked it like it owned it! Scott
I took a second look - you are 100% correct. Thanks for the correction. Scott
Well done for sure
Why do we always see wranglers our in Moab and not no Cherokee’s or Grand Cherokee’s?...
JeepGuy 9519 no particular reason. You can have a convertible top without using a sawzall.🤪
Nice tries thanks
what was all that smoke from when it went side ways
Hookem An Bookem Outdoors pcv dumping oil into the intake. Needed a catch can
the guy that snapped the axle shaft on the 42 trepador stickies, what axle was that on?
Ricky McFarland Sterling 10.5
Question, are those jeeps just for crawling?
Or are these your daily drivers to?
Just asking bycouse those rubicon’s are quite expensive overhere in the netherlands, especialy with the modifications you run on those vehicles.
Willem Hoek about 50% of these are daily drivers.
RockYour4x4 well atleast you are using them right. I wish we had those terrain’s over here in Holland. But were a little country and we mostly go to germany or belgium or france.
looks like Crazy fun
Andrea Schell much!!!
Subbed hello from Manhattan NYC
37.00,told you shorties ar eno frigin good.you need 3m wheel base.or a super duty with fkn big tires.like mine..
I walked my 7500lb land cruiser right up HG the entrance was worse IMHO but I also had local legend Rory irish spotting me. And winching is cheating.
Yellow jeep came in way to fast and......................
I done hell's revenge several times in my jeeps.hells gate is a butt clincher but loads of fun.its not that much of a challenge in my jeep wrangler Rubicon with lift 40 tires 456 gears Dana 60 axles and a hemi engine in it.
Epic video brother 😎
first time i seen this is how do they keep the oil from running to the back of the oil pan? are all all manual transmissions?
Peter Rod most are automatic
For the most part they keep line pressure even at an angle.
the dude in the green LJ went kind fast
NEVER, stand between two jeeps with tension on the line. Where was the dampener that should of been placed over the line about ten feet from the front of the jeep being recovered? Bunch of rookies....
synthetic line wouldve been fine
They are rookies
I agree, all jeep and no skill! Maybe they could’ve taken one safety class. But that would cut down on trail time.
Synthetic lines break too
No need for a dampener. Synthetic lines don't stretch like steel and don't recoil dangerously when they break. That said, they CAN break so I DO take exception to the people standing BEHIND the bottom vehicle. If that cable pops it's gonna be a yard sale and you obviously don't want to be in the way.
Cool
But in all honesty great video 🤘🏻🤘🏻
The driver withe the Wheats off road Jeep seems to have left his common sense behind, has he never heard of momentum?
And he has to be told to lock in his differential? He's probably always wondered what that button did
Why not chain them together the jeeps in front can help pull
if that synthetic line would have ripped there would have been one guy dead possibly two. never stand below a vehicle on a hill, especially one that's tipping
Good info
Shouldn't you give an encore PSA for low tire pressure after such insightful information?
yerwrng why you got to be a smart ass? is it because i'm actually right?
@@mckinneyfarms4803 Do you voice over for vertical alliance ?
Yea, my stomach was tense watching these guys just sit and hang out right next to that fucking line.
building out my new toy so i can try this
I don't have lockers. What trails can I do. 95 yj on 33s
E vazkee 95% of the trails in Moab you’d be good on.
None
I pulled off hells gate and the escalator on open difs and 31s
so what.??the spotters on holiday or not getting paid enough to care,about 6 were off line,,.?.
Didn't a stock Ford raptor do this trail?
TrashMutt Reviews a Crown Vic and a Kia did too. They bypassed a lot of the obstacles though.
@@rockyour4x4 oh still pretty cool
At 32:12, something is going to break - I feel bad for the jeep
michael sabella it's a Jeep... Things break. We fix them. Do it all over again 😂
Man talk about white knuckle suspense. All I could play in my mind was the cable snaps and yeah you know the rest. At least throw a couple coats to lower the risks if it does snap.
blankets dont help most times,,we tie chains to rope.heavier the better.
Anybody know what tires Off Camber was running?
Slick Rock 42” Maxxis Treps sticky
What happened with the PCV valves?
snowismas the oil collects in the valve cover on those inclines and starts dumping it into the intake. The use of an oil catch can would be in order.
Wow! Nice
good trail~❤
20:25...Aaahhhh...Now I see the problem.
Glad no one got injured but I did think the sasme thing when I saw the steelers logo.
Sucks to be last...
anyone know if the green jeep with wheat's off road to and the star on the hood has a social media page?
Luis sowhat IG OffC4mber
At 32:00 What a suspension workout 😜
Are those on 37s and 40s?
Justin Abrams mostly yes
This wasn't on day 1 my group was the only one that went today. Unless you went as your own group
Zachary Sharif we were our own group of friends from TN, KY, and IN
How many TN Jeepers made the trip this year?
JSTJPN 2011 We had 6 Jeeps from TN.
Awesome
I'm selling my 67 Kaiser Jeep comes with snow plow new tires and canvas top motor and drivetrain run excellent all original windshield v6 dauntless recently rebuilt but has not been driven in a while sweet deal$1,800 cash
Trying to sell my jeep
What a collection of dangerous and foolhardy behaviors with the yellow jeep: No spotters to help him, apparently no instructions before the obstacle about the line to take for this rookie, no reminders to turn off the motor if he tips, only one guy goes down to help him, the first time the cable was placed by the jeep up above it had to be at the worst possible angle (why not go to the far right of the up slope?), all these guys standing next to a cable with tension on it, the same guys standing downhill of the jeep, and on and on. A fun day could have turned deadly really quickly. Morons. Who is in charge?
I was thinking the same thing. Plus, why did they not have radio communication?
You're NOT wrong., But clearly theyellow jeep didn't pay any attention to the line everyone else took, Then restarts the engine before the oil had drained back down.
David Ferry Wow! This is wheeling. Sometimes people have to learn from their own mistakes and become stronger.
Yea, the dumbass, hit it way tooo fast, I saw that flip coming a mile away. He deserved every scratch he got.
Stronger....if you're not dead. Learn from the mistakes of others!
Do anyone have any recommendation on a front bumper for my jeep gladiator
jeep lova check out Artec Industries, Motobilt, LoD Offroad
@@rockyour4x4 thank you ill check them out.
Though I am not a jeep fanatic, occasionally I drop into these vids to see what the fuss is about. Now I know. Moab can keep the Jeep fanatics. Well over 20 + people around, spotters are poor. The winching times are dangerous and poorly supervised. 1st Jeep shown, you have a guy that goes down and thinks he is Hercules or some dumb chit and attempts to try pushing it back upright? Give me a break. This is not a hindsight situation. 20+ people around there and nobody thinks about putting something over that cable so that IF it should snap, it won't be flying towards anyone? Not to mention the people standing and sitting to the sides of the lines as the pulls are going on? Geeza people. The fun ends when people are severely injured or killed. ;) Try taking some safety courses before venturing out to nowhere.
W W this isn’t a wire rope fwiw. If it were a wire rope there wouldn’t be anyone around!
You've never seen synthetic rope break? You need to get out more.
Dang....
and a KIA did this? I don't think so!
thats2odd haha yes it did. Dan Mick's son drive it up. Crazy
Honestly Hell's Revenge is just a technically challenging trail. It's more about being a good driver than having an insanely built rig. I took my 03 WJ through it with just a 3" lift and 31" BFG KO2 tires. Even in the rain I was sticking to the rock better than the UTV group ahead of me.
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i think 90% of the people i subscribe to are in this comment section haha. also this is my 3rd time watching this, have fun out there!
no good havong a shit load of stikers if it dont go.!!.
At 32 minutes, worst spotter ever.
oh &,yeh,its a frigin 2 door,id ban them from 4x4ing,too short,as per,,,,,,
Good video but horrible spotting
Guys really, if your going to attempt this why use brand new jeep's, why not take older jeep bodies that you dont mind damaging for this sport. Maybe you'd be less apt to failure as your less worried about damaging yr toys....
michael sabella it’s what they’re made for. Which of these is a brand new Jeep?
I dont own a truck, but at 27:10 are you guys kidding, how could any of you think he could get out of that hole,really come on , if he had started moving up he prob would of flipped over. Guys stop it, yr jeeps are not invincible....
michael sabella people do it all the time, make it out of that hole and flip in that hole!
note the tire marks..
Terrible spotter!
Lol good day 1 🤣
Short wheelbase...no bueno
BigpoppaKC the wheelbase makes all the difference! 🤘
Sometimes...
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Using a winch is cheating :)