What's "Wrong" With X-MEN 2?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @TerryB01
    @TerryB01 Год назад +35

    Years ago my mom walked in on me watching this and she loved the scene where Colossus tells Wolverine he can help him but is told to help the kids. She thinks he was told he wasn't ready. Getting things out of context like that and still thinking that all these years alter actually was better for her. It made X-3 better since she saw him at the end fighting with Wolverine. "Now he's ready!" she said out loud. It actually brought a smile to my face.

  • @smartrn1
    @smartrn1 Год назад +6

    What was NOT wrong was Kelly Hu. Just gorgeous. Beautiful.

  • @smithryansmith
    @smithryansmith Год назад +4

    After we watched the first x-en film, my buddy said "I like Wolverine and all but I'd like them to remember there are other X-men on the team."
    They course corrected here and we got less Wolverine. They brought Mystique to the fore as she was the best thing about it.
    That and the Nightcrawler scene. His is clearly a power that works better on film.

  • @CoffeeAI201
    @CoffeeAI201 Год назад +39

    Spider-Man 2 and X2: X-Men United are the best superhero films period.

    • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
      @SuperSaiyanGuyver Год назад +4

      Gotta give props to Superman 2. Its great for explaining why Superman isnt just the powers but the person and indirectly gave us Dragonball Z.

    • @CoffeeAI201
      @CoffeeAI201 Год назад +5

      @@SuperSaiyanGuyveragreed! Raimi stated Superman 1 & 2 inspired Spider-Man I believe

    • @gammasmash1924
      @gammasmash1924 Год назад +2

      There's certainly an argument to be made for that.

  • @havocomega
    @havocomega Год назад +13

    If i remember the movie Nightcrawler TRIES to save Jean and he says she's preventing him from bamfing to her, i think the point was she could sense what was gonna happen and was choosing to allow the transformation to occur.

  • @somelittlellama4186
    @somelittlellama4186 Год назад +11

    This movie, like Spider-man 2, it's not just good, it's well made, imo. The plot is there along with the action sequences and the subplots add something to the characters (I personally love Nightcrawler). And characters all act like they all are supposed to be. The scene inside the White House and the invasion of the school are top notch scenes in the super hero genre. I don't think nothing gets close to how exciting it is.

  • @Punisher3-16
    @Punisher3-16 Год назад +16

    Personally, i think the only mistake of X2 was teasing the Dark Phoenix at the end because in handsight X3 would've been much better being more about the cure than about Jean Greay.
    Man.......... Lady Deathstrike was just perfect.
    Additional Note: The little tease of Beast pre-fur mutation in the beggining was pioneer in a certain kind of way. When did another movie showed a character to say "This will be important later so stay tuned"?

    • @Punisher3-16
      @Punisher3-16 Год назад

      Why did i edit my comment??? Now i lost my heart 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @JDPetty0990
      @JDPetty0990 Год назад

      @@Punisher3-16 First time?

    • @Punisher3-16
      @Punisher3-16 Год назад

      @@JDPetty0990: It was more about regret than surprise. As soon as i finished the edit, i got the notification which meant i basically deleted it as soon as it was given.

  • @seangalvin4582
    @seangalvin4582 Год назад +27

    This is the best. There are some incredible action sequences and set pieces. The opening, the mansion raid, the Wolverine/ Dethstrike fight, the confrontation at Icemans house are bangers. The fight sequence in the opening of Days Of Future Past is the closest they have come to replicating this.

    • @alejandromolinac
      @alejandromolinac Год назад +1

      Abs everything feels so “grounded”…. Non of that bloated CGI cartoon sequences

  • @Omega579.
    @Omega579. Год назад +14

    Another thing that bothered me about the ending besides not using Nightcrawler to teleport Jean to safety is they also had Iceman there to freeze the water. By freezing the water they could have had enough time to save Jean to safety and take off.

  • @kieranholmes8086
    @kieranholmes8086 Год назад +7

    They actually show nightcrawler trying to teleport but Jean is stopping him

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Год назад +3

    One of the best Superhero movies. Love this movie!

  • @filmandpage1138
    @filmandpage1138 Год назад +3

    I remember not really being super impressed with the first X-men film. I just thought it was passable, but the second film is one of my favorites in that whole series.

  • @jamesalexhowlett
    @jamesalexhowlett Год назад +15

    I remember going to the second movie in theaters with my family and absolutely loving the scene where is the task force breaks into the ex-mansion and wolverine is getting shot at and he jumps over the balcony and takes out the whole team. My mind was blown when I saw it.

  • @thatcomicdad1687
    @thatcomicdad1687 Год назад +8

    I remember how the first xmen movie started with the awesome scene of a young Eric before he became Magneto. And then the rest of the movie was just ok

  • @gammasmash1924
    @gammasmash1924 Год назад +5

    I loved this movie. This was the last X-Man movie I saw in the theater, and I saw it in the theater multiple times, which I haven't done with a movie since.

  • @Khundryl
    @Khundryl Год назад +6

    It's perfect. The best X movie.

  • @joshuacalkins
    @joshuacalkins Год назад +3

    I wouldn’t rewatch “Dark Phoenix” if I were you. I saw it on a plane, and almost walked out! But seriously, it was excruciating trash.

  • @firehaps
    @firehaps Год назад +10

    This is the first movie I remember seeing in theaters, and it's my most nostalgic. It's very 00s but not in a bad way. It perfectly encapsulates everything great about that era of superhero fandom and media from movies to cartoons to video games where things had gotten more polished but hadn't yet become completely corporatized.

  • @seminolewind158
    @seminolewind158 Год назад +7

    Better plot, better action, brought everyone back and added new additions, some great lines, a great second movie ending. Have no clue why they didn’t repeat this formula and have the x men go for 20 movies everyone loved, a la James Bond.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Год назад +1

      Probably because the director and actor for Cyclops ended up leaving to work on Superman Returns, and the director of Xmen The Last Stand seemed to want to make some sort of conclusion to the trilogy.

  • @JDPetty0990
    @JDPetty0990 Год назад +8

    This was my first X-Men movie, saw it at the local drive-in theatre with the Evanescence-era Daredevil as the other feature. I was somewhat familiar with the X-Men as a concept, and X-Men Evolution was around at the time, so it was very confusing to me at the time. I'll need to watch it again now that I'm older.

  • @stephenc2527
    @stephenc2527 Год назад +2

    I always felt Cyclopes never got to be a badass. You see his fighting skills for just a second when he fights their version of Lady Deathstrike, but she overpowers him. Would have been cool to see him maul through soldiers hand to hand before he came across her.

  • @juliangrant9718
    @juliangrant9718 Год назад +7

    Saw this in the movies with all my school friends when I was in year 9. We all lost our collective sh*ts at the end with the Dark Pheonix easter egg. The Nightcrawler intro blew our socks off. Lady Deathstrike fight. Everything was awesome about this. It deserved to be one the best rated comic book films at that time. And nope, Hugh Jackman is not huge. Clothing started to get form fitting at this time so he looks kinda a little more wirey in this than large. I still love this movie. X-Men First Class is objectively the best X-Men film. I personally think Days of Future Past is amazing.

  • @michaelhorning6014
    @michaelhorning6014 Год назад +3

    I saw Kelly Hu doing a morale tour in Qatar when I was coming back from deployment as a civilian analyst. Still kicking myself for not saying hello to Lady Deathstrike.

  • @timinou9915
    @timinou9915 Год назад +1

    Nightcrawler not saving Jean at the end always bugged me 😂 but hey gotta have that Pheonix plot ready for P3

  • @samhighvoltage
    @samhighvoltage Год назад +3

    I'm pretty sure Jason Stryker was a supposed to be Mastermind from the comics I think he was Jason Wyngarde in the Hellfire Club repurposed to fit the God Loves Man Kills story 🤔 but yeah I could see the comparison you made

  • @mohammadbashammakh
    @mohammadbashammakh Год назад +7

    I can’t wait for you to talk about what’s wrong with x-men days of future past, because I’ve got a major issue with that one , what was the point of rescuing magneto ? What part was he supposed to do in their plan ? Making everything worse?

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Год назад +3

      I guess Charles believed he would get on their side and help them in some way, but he hadn't gone through what future Magneto did

    • @mohammadbashammakh
      @mohammadbashammakh Год назад

      @@DavidMartinez-ce3lp yeah but why was it important for them to release him ? He didn’t do anything important that would have helped them, they already knew where Raven was going to be , they gained entrance without any help from him , they could’ve stopped her & saved her if he didn’t make everything worse by going after her and exposing mutants existence to the public, if you ask me they were better off without him because he had no part in their plan and he caused nothing but trouble

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Год назад +3

      @@mohammadbashammakh My best guess is that they believed they needed past Charles and past Magneto to try to break through to Mystique. Specifically for that.

  • @ericstaples7220
    @ericstaples7220 Год назад +3

    First Class, X2 and DoFP make for a great adhoc trilogy.

  • @CoffeeAI201
    @CoffeeAI201 Год назад +3

    Zack I just watched the 1st 3 Rocky films
    They are STRIKINGLY similar to the Raimi Spider-Man Trioligy.
    Even down to the 3rd one having both heroes attend an outside event where their theme song is being played by a live band.
    Also the 2nd film in both trilogies has the hero struggling with their “powers” due to relationship problems. Based facts

  • @bangoskank7018
    @bangoskank7018 Год назад +4

    X-2 is solid as hell.

  • @ToneSherpa
    @ToneSherpa Год назад +3

    X-men 2 and Days of Future Past are basically both perfect S tier.
    Then you've got First Class and the first X-men just below them.
    And then everything else is just pretty much crap. Except for Logan which is really good.

  • @jackobrien47
    @jackobrien47 Год назад +2

    I just remember how nuts it was when wolverine stabbed that first guy I to the fridge. after growing up on the animated series where he never got to use his claws on anyone it literally made me gasp.
    Yeah he uses them on sabertooth in the first movie but he heals so it's not the same

  • @alejandromolinac
    @alejandromolinac Год назад +2

    Ha!…. This was the first time I actually “related” to what the characters said on screen…. Also love how sassy Magneto is!…..

  • @UtarEmpire
    @UtarEmpire Год назад +5

    Nothing. Everyone loves this movie.

  • @AlphaProto
    @AlphaProto Год назад +1

    Something X-men 2, and the Spider-man movies did was leave a few teases for the next movie to follow up on.
    It wasn't after the credits like with MCU movies. It was just part of the plot.

  • @pathkeepers
    @pathkeepers Год назад +2

    I must have watched this movie 300 times in high school. Haven’t watched it since. Wtf. Thanks for the reminder that things used to be good.

  • @thevoidire
    @thevoidire Год назад +1

    Same thing happened to me with Zoolander. Hated the film after the first viewing. Everyone said I was insane 😅
    So I rewatched it and yeah... One of the greatest comedies of all time. I probably watched it the first time in a bad mood :)

  • @AlucardNoir
    @AlucardNoir Год назад +2

    It's not called "Wolverine, Magneto and I guess some other mutants?"

  • @Barada73
    @Barada73 Год назад +1

    I remember when the first X-Men movie came out, I was stationed in Korea. Me and a few friends from the barracks watched it and afterwards just hung out in the dayroom talking about it. For the most part we all agreed that the film was disappointing, but nobody hated it.
    I think the only thing that first movie did right was to hit the reset button on Wolverine’s character, who seemed to have gone completely off the rails in the comics at the time (remember noseless Wolverine?).
    I didn’t originally watch X2 until it came out on DVD and my brother told me about how great it was. I liked it enough to have high expectations for the third movie, which turned out to be a mistake.
    If I were to assign letter grades to the first three X-Men movies, I would give X-Men a C-, X2 would get a solid B, and X3 would get an F.
    Unfortunately, every X-Men movie that has come after keeps referencing this first trilogy, so I don’t think we’ll ever get a true reboot of the X-Men movie franchise.

  • @darrelldent9083
    @darrelldent9083 Год назад

    X2 and Superman II are, IMO, the best "Comic Book" movies, probably closest to what reading a comic would be for the non-comic-reading public. The scene with Magneto escaping and floating across the void with the balls circling would be right at home on the comic page. The opening with Nightcrawler is a perfect showcase for his abilities, starts everything off with a bang.
    Agreed, these movies were action/adventure with just a sprinkling of humor, not jokes, just lighter moments.

  • @commoman
    @commoman Год назад +2

    We were able to get a bootleg of this movie in Iraq that year; but because it wasn't the best copy, I had no idea how Jean died at the end until I was able to buy a dvd.

  • @egutierrez3961
    @egutierrez3961 Год назад

    What it needed was a good Ben & Jerry’s ice cream joke……..

  • @garadak7985
    @garadak7985 Год назад +1

    This movie is 20 years old btw, time flies huh!? Amazing film has some problems with the ending but overall GREAT X film!

  • @ToneSherpa
    @ToneSherpa Год назад +2

    X-men 2 is damn near perfect.

  • @JohnHenrysaysHi
    @JohnHenrysaysHi Год назад +3

    Glad you enjoyed and happy to hear you liked X-Men 3 as well! Hope it holds up. Awesome thumbnail! My all time favorite live action superhero fight scene. Also, now really hope you check out the animated Hulk Vs Wolverine now.
    I remember you not being as enthusiastic as me, but I thought Blade 2 had a large leap in quality from the first movie which had the more defined characterization for Blade but outside of that, it came across like a run of the mill horror movie you'd see some of half-way through on a Saturday afternoon. As an action movie, I thought Blade 2 had the best throughout besides Spider-man 2.
    Also, Zack, I liked the first Venom movie because of what you said in comparison to the MCU movies. At least the first Iron Man and Incredible Hulk were respectful with their tone. I care about these characters, and want to be immersed in their universe.
    Thanks again. Hope you have a great week. God bless you!

  • @trodat07
    @trodat07 Год назад +2

    I like the church scene where they recruit Nightcrawler.

  • @LuisFigo4
    @LuisFigo4 Год назад +1

    Went to highschool with Pyro

  • @MarsupialGamer
    @MarsupialGamer Год назад +5

    Can't wait for you to get to X-Men: The Last Stand. There's a LOT wrong with that one!

    • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
      @SuperSaiyanGuyver Год назад +2

      If you gave the comics to an AI and said "remake this as 80s action schlock" you'd get that movie. I still love it but why no one just adapted the comics I'll never understand.

    • @michaelhorning6014
      @michaelhorning6014 Год назад

      So. Much. Wrong.

  • @DavidSilva-mn4dz
    @DavidSilva-mn4dz Год назад +3

    Well, Nightcrawler was nerfed in tte movie, near to the climax he almost passed out. All of the X-Men were nerfed in some way, Cyclops for example was butchered and Jean Grey was more bland that her comic counterpart... Which is a lot.

  • @LonjArt23
    @LonjArt23 Год назад +1

    This, DOFP and Logan are the best X-men movies we will ever see in our lifetimes. The MCU X-men movie when they finally get around to making it is going to be a shitshow.

  • @paulatreides585
    @paulatreides585 Год назад +2

    Basically you could skip X3 but you should watch and review it for the annals

  • @DavidCore42
    @DavidCore42 Год назад +1

    James Marsden was underused as Cyclops

  • @thatcomicdad1687
    @thatcomicdad1687 Год назад +2

    I pretty much share your opinions of the xmen movies. I hope when marvel reboots it they do a better job

  • @michaelhorning6014
    @michaelhorning6014 Год назад +1

    X2 is freaking amazing.

  • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
    @SuperSaiyanGuyver Год назад +2

    I re-watched all the X-Men movies up to Future Past and they actually work like Age of Apocalypse in the comics for me. Senator Kelly dies in the first one and the rest is an alternate future that is averted by the end of Future Past where it looks like the comics. This movie is great (wasted Nightcrawler aside. Still mad Colossus and Deadpool took the Wolvie/ Kurt dynamic).
    The jokey Wolverine moments aren't like current Marvel. Wolverine asks Iceman about beer. Its a school for youngsters so no. Police ask Wolverine to drop the knives but he can't. So they shoot him. Rogue freaks and Logan spits out the bullet and gets up. These are funny but they don't take you OUT of the movie, they make it seem MORE REAL because that's how people WOULD BE in those situations.
    Lastly, Magneto's dick moment came WAY before that when he kills that guard for thinking a hot woman would like him. What a douche. I know how you feel about guards since your origin story but DAMN.

  • @corey9746
    @corey9746 Год назад

    Keep these reviews coming.

  • @Denneska
    @Denneska Год назад +1

    You served in Iraq ? How old are you ? Just curious.
    I'm not american and English isn't even my native language, but I like what you post 👌🏽

  • @777superlightwater
    @777superlightwater Год назад +1

    Dark Phoenix was sick young Cyclops was cool in that

  • @KamisamanoOtaku
    @KamisamanoOtaku Год назад +1

    Eh, I disagree about the "nothing", but yeah, it is a good name for the video! I loved ❤ the film when I first saw it, and I can absolutely still enjoy it. The short version:
    1) The usual (for the time) superhero movie tropes, including "more serious" costumes and killing off the villains.
    2) Broken Aesop. I get that mutants can be a stand in for various minority groups... but always remember it isn't a 1-for-1 thing so you can't just plug in real world situations for those minority groups.
    #2 is exemplified by the "Have you tried not being a mutant?" line from Bobby's mom. At first, you might be like "Hey! He can't change what he is!" but really THINK about Bobby's life. He's at a private school exclusive to "his kind", and has been recruited into a paramilitary group formed out of "his kind", while wearing a black leather uniform. As opposed to, say... just learning how tonuse and control his powers and otherwise living a normal life.

  • @MrCodonovan
    @MrCodonovan Год назад

    Can you review the Crow movies please?

  • @Dinosreviews
    @Dinosreviews Год назад +2

    Both Days of Future Past and X-Men 2 are better than Logan.

  • @777superlightwater
    @777superlightwater Год назад

    Ahh Velcro… nicee 😏

  • @Batman12810
    @Batman12810 Год назад +1

    The third movie sucked, but Magneto turning his back on Mystique after she got turned human was small evil and cold af.

  • @JohnVmc2
    @JohnVmc2 Год назад

    Zack's obssession with shapes in actors is funny as fuck. Overall, greap review.

  • @Subninja2012
    @Subninja2012 Год назад

    My favorite comic movies:
    1. Blade
    2. Guardians of the Galaxy
    3. Logan

  • @MrDman21
    @MrDman21 Год назад

    I gotta say I enjoyed all of the X-Men movies when I saw them in the theaters. Now not so much.

  • @DIOBrando-ij2bp
    @DIOBrando-ij2bp Год назад

    Something weird about X-Men 2. So I watched X2 in the theatre, watched it when it came out, and got the movie when it came out on DVD. Most have come out around some holiday because I was at my grandparents place when I watched the DVD, and they lived far away so the only time I was up there was during one of the big three holidays. And I’m watching the DVD up there, and the attack on the mansion is happening where Wolverine is killing Stryker’s strike force, and I’m like: That’s weird, I remember this being different, I remember Wolverine killing this one guy and yelling in his face being more intense. So the movie ends and I start watching the extras on the DVD because my grandparents also lived in like the middle of nowhere outside of a town with like a population of 100 people and getting television reception could be spotty, and even if it wasn’t it’s Missouri and I guess Missouri likes running local news twice as much as other places...and they had some pretty shitty local news. So I’m watching these extras, and I’m watching the deleted scenes, and for some reason the better more intense version of Wolverine stabbing the guy up against the refrigerator that I remembered seeing in the theatre is there, and they switched it out for a slightly different version in the DVD release. I don’t know if prints got sent out to theatres with different versions of that stabbing scene and the DVD just happened to use the worse one, or if they changed it for the DVD release, but the DVD version (and maybe all home versions since then) have a slight change that makes one of the scenes a little weaker than the theatrical version.
    X-Men 2 still has one of the best action sequences in a comic book movie in it. Nightcrawler’s White House attack is a pretty fantastic action scene. Funnily I kind of think the first two X-Men movies have gotten better with time, and years of the MCU’s movie as marketing for other movies formula and progressively dumber tone. Like they feel more like real movies now than when they came out, and I enjoyed the first two X-Men movies when they came out, but they feel so different today. It’s almost how like when Mad Max came out it was seen las this crazy action movie, but you watch it today and it almost feels like an indie drama that nevertheless has some nice action at the beginning and end.

  • @DIOBrando-ij2bp
    @DIOBrando-ij2bp Год назад

    If you’ve never read it, you should look up Andrew Kevin Walker‘s 1994 X-Men script. It’s a very interesting read if you’ve watched the first three X-Men movies, it’s a good script too, but it’s also interesting with regard to the first thee movies because it’s basically the first three movies as one movie. It’s really seems like Fox mined that script for the first three X-Men movies. I’d guess Grant Morrison read the script too, because there’s stuff that happens during his New X-Men run (like Magneto taking over Manhattan) that seems like it could’ve been taken from the script. Now that I think about it the greasy haired mop top Toad that Chris Bachalo draws in the ‘90s in Generation X also kind of seems like the Toad from the script.

  • @malafakka8530
    @malafakka8530 Год назад

    Saw this 2 or 3 times and I still find it just okay.

  • @ghostknight1865
    @ghostknight1865 Год назад

    The best Marvel movie is still Spider-Man 2, with this one in the top 5.

  • @N7Tigger
    @N7Tigger Год назад

    "For some reason" is just a polite way of saying "because it's that or this phase 4 dogshit."

  • @RealKull
    @RealKull Год назад

    They totally botch Nightcrawler's personality by making him a religious nut while in the comics he' a gallant, swashbuckling, cheerful dude who also HAPPENS to be catholic...

  • @johnnycage112
    @johnnycage112 Год назад

    Not enough Colossus

  • @jculver1674
    @jculver1674 Год назад

    Magneto's line about Rogue's hair is actually worse in the story's full context. In the first movie, he tortures and mentally traumatizes her to the point that it makes her hair turn white, and in this movie he teases her about that. What an absolute piece of shit. This is why I can't stand the "Magneto is right" defenders. Just because he has sympathetic motives doesn't change the fact that he's an objectively horrible person. He just uses the intolerance around him as an excuse to be that way.

  • @_eggers
    @_eggers Год назад

    I liked it for what it was but I was such a huge X-men nerd I couldn’t help but nitpick the shit out of it

  • @CharlesFlahertyB
    @CharlesFlahertyB Год назад

    Blade is the best marvel movie.

  • @monoveloso
    @monoveloso Год назад

    X-Men 3 is my favorite one. Debate me in the thunderdome.

  • @LegionaryHunter
    @LegionaryHunter Год назад

    The only thing wrong is that image, its giving me the hibby-jibbies

  • @foreshame7370
    @foreshame7370 Год назад

    it's too short

  • @joselopez-he1mc
    @joselopez-he1mc Год назад

    Its the only xmen movie i bought. The others arent worth a dollar at the thrift store.

  • @drewtodd4471
    @drewtodd4471 Год назад

    Ian McKellen is great as Magneto. Fassbender is good too. If you haven't seen it, watch Apt Pupil. Ian is an escaped nacho, and some kid blackmailed him to telling war stories of the camps. It's horrifying. It's like someone who stopped at a car crash and took photos. It's a different level of sick. I am fine with a base knowledge, but I don't need to know the details. That's like the recent thing with suburban wives being into horrible murder stories. No! Don't do that!
    Point being, Ian is smug but it's pretty clear he thinks he is superior.

  • @dominiclapinta8537
    @dominiclapinta8537 Год назад +1

    Anime is actually the way that Disney wanted to become, but because they dont understand, and in recent years, don't want to understand the audience, they get scared really quick and only allow a handful of serious in movies and use bad jokes, and filler to make up the rest of the movies. They've been doing this more and more for decades. Its only at its worst now, but it's been this way for a while.

  • @licmir3663
    @licmir3663 Год назад

    Everyone loved the X-Men films but me. They always felt like “Wolverine and those other guys.” The fact that they kept bringing Magneto and Mystique as the villains made it look like they had no idea of what to do with the characters.

  • @NicofTime...
    @NicofTime... Год назад

    Too much wolverine and too many character drops. So many character cameos without any lines or purpose

  • @RyanLongArt
    @RyanLongArt Год назад

    It's not as good as Apocalypse.

  • @alejandromolinac
    @alejandromolinac Год назад

    Ha! That polished metal, monochromatic look is VERY 2000’s Turn of the Millenium….. EVERYTHING from packaging, websites and Photoshop tutorials had it…. Can’t wait for the obligatory “Lols WTF are you talking about…. That’s not true” responses….