THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING PART 2/3 (EXTENDED) - REACTION
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Today we are watching Lord of the Rings: The Return of The King! The extended editions are long, so this movie will be split into three videos to show even more of the reaction. Enjoy!
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The Charge of Rohan is one of the single greatest moments in cinematic history. It brings me to tears every single time.
"my friends, you bow to no one."
The Ride of the Rohirrim
There's a video of an old tolkien narration of the ride of the rohirrim with the movie in the background. Absolute perfection.
And yet, the book version is the one that always gets me more. It is a twist that the foul weather that Sauron brewed above the approaches to Minas Tirith also hides Theoden's force from being discovered by those besieging the city until they are well into the fields in front of the city. I mean you can't have better lines than: Horns, horns, horns. In dark Mindolliun sides they echoed. Great horns of the North wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last." ruclips.net/video/WMrgYJNC8r8/видео.html
@@innercircle341 And the Last March of the Ents...
Fun fact: the riders in the front rank who clashed their spears with Theoden *earned* the right to be there by demonstrating their knowledge of LoTR lore. So they knew exactly the significance of what they were doing.
Also, The man who is actually on screen blowing his horn before the charge is (was?) the president of a NZ Tolkien fan club. He’s essentially wearing his cosplay garb, not a movie costume.
Every time Theoden's sword stuck another rider's blade I winced the first time I saw it. Why? Because I didn't forget the spear to his right shoulder defending Helm's Deep's Main gate.
Thanks so much for the feedback. So glad to learn new things even after all these years of fandom.
I've never heard that. Thats flipping AWESOME
"What would Gandalf do" is always a good way to approach a problem. And sometimes, hitting someone with a big stick is the best answer.
It kind of reminds me of the meme about how if you're asking what Jesus would do, flipping over tables and chasing people around with a whip isn't outside the realm of possibility.
The Rohirrim charge is one of the most, if not THE most epic scene in cinema history
*_"And never in after years could Pippen hear a horn blown in the distance without tears starting in his eyes."_*
One of the many moments that gets me in this film is when Theoden looks across Pelenor Fields and sees the city burning. Theodens mother was from Gondor and he lived there for most of his boyhood. So to see Minas Tirith (which he had doubtlessly visited many times as a child) burning, broken and under siege is just heart wrenching. Then he immediately channels all that emotion into his speech!
A film needs more drama, and quicker, than a book, since it is shorter. I understand why they had to make Theoden hostile to Gondor at first in The Two Towers film, but in the book Gondor and Rohan were the closest of allies, and Theoden reflects that trust and friendship in the 3rd film, where he says, "We cannot defeat them--but we will meet them in combat nonetheless." That's loyalty and friendship, even to the death.
9:00 "oh they have catapults too!"
trebuchets: "am I a joke to you?"
shelob is in a class of her own, being the greatest and last surviving offspring of an ancient demon spider known as Ungoliant. she consumed the others.
she also gives absolutely 0 craps about the one ring, she was just hungry. what's even funnier is Sauron knew she was there long before Mordor got established and he was like "whelp, better let her have that one. i have no desire to upset her. she makes a good incidental guard of that pass"
"And as for Sauron: he knew where she lurked. It pleased him that she should dwell there hungry but unabated in malice, a more sure watch upon that ancient path into his land than any other that his skill could have devised. And Orcs, they were useful slaves, but he had them in plenty. If now and again Shelob caught them to stay her appetite, she was welcome: he could spare them. And sometimes as a man may cast a dainty to his cat (his cat he calls her, but she owns him not) Sauron would send her prisoners that he had no better uses for: he would have them driven to her hole, and report brought back to him of the play she made."
I love the fact that Tolkien writes, "his cat he calls her, but she owns him not" Tolkien was not a fan of cats at all, even had a replaced Tevildo, Prince of Cats as the chief enemy of Huan, the Hound of Valinor, with a giant wolf, Charcaroth, in the story of Beren and Luthien in part because he eventually grew to respect cats. He also has a cute poem about them simply titled, "Cat". It's the, she owns him not, part that I love so much. Tolkien finally understood cats, though, he may not have loved them as he did dogs; he understood that by nature cats think themselves the masters, and we, their servants.
@@ComicalHealing The tidbit about Beruthiel features a lot of cats as well if I remember correctly. The take on a totalitarian regime where spies for the regime are spied upon by the regime, making no one safe.
Considering that Ungoliant just about beat Morgoth and his balrogs (note the plural), Sauron probably felt that the oldest of her remaining brood wasn't really anything it was wise to aggravate. It's also worth noting that Ungoliant, like Tom Bombadil, may not even be part of Eru's creation but rather primal forces made manifest without the design of God.
@@Carandini Ungoliant didn’t defeat Morgoth’s Balrogs, the Balrogs are why Ungoliant fled.
Just shows the courage, determination and might of the one and only Samwise Gamgee (Samwise The Brave). The true hero.
The "Wolf's Head" is named Grond (you can hear the orcs chanting it), after the legendary weapon of Morgoth: The Hammer of the Underworld. Morgoth used it in the First Age to duel Fingolfin, High King of the Noldorin Elves, and though he was wounded, Morgoth used Grond to crush the life from the Elven King. This is why the ram is so fearsome, with that name attached to it :P
Shelob the spider is a distant descendant of Ungoliant, the mother of all giant spiders, who herself was a dark spirit that took on that form before the First Age even began. Morgoth (then called Melkor before his flight from Aman) allied himself with her to hurt the Valar by killing the Two Trees of Valinor, Telperion and Laurelin, which were the only lights in the world apart from the stars. Melkor promised Ungoliant that she could drink in the light of the Trees, and he smote their trunks, allowing Ungoliant to drink her fill of their light and life. She became extremely powerful then, much more so than Melkor, and he fled from her (imagine a giant spider badass enough to scare THE DEVIL, but I digress), but the deed was done; the Trees were dead.
The Vala Yavanna sang into existence a second tree like unto Telperion the silver, for the Elves who lived with the Valar in their city of Tirion, though it did not emit its own light. This was called Galathilion, and a seedling was also grown on the isle of Tol Eressea for the Teleri Elves, named Celeborn. A seedling of Celeborn was gifted to the Men of Numenor, named Nimloth, the White Tree of Numenor. This tree was sadly cut down by Numenor's last king, Ar-Pharazon, under the influence of Sauron. Several fruits of Nimloth were saved by Isildur and planted in Middle-Earth when the Numenoreans fled their sinking island, and the White Tree of Gondor is one of these seedlings.
And yes, those orcs SHOULD have been scared; a full charge of heavy cavalry in those times was akin to a regiment of WWII infantry facing off against a Tiger tank battalion. There is very, very little one can do to stop it.
@Gerald H RIP to Huan, Goodest Boy of the Valar.
"They will answer to the King of Gondor! Anduril, Flame of the West; forged from the shards of Narsil!"
Straightens my spine every time.
I have a replica of the sword
Addie: I hate seeing horses go down 🥺
Haradrim: Allow us to introduce ourselves 🐘
The moment those horns blew in cinemas everyone cheered, because we knew who'd come to save the day. There are very few cavalry charges in movies that top it.
"At least it's one giant spider" Maybe, but Shelob is one of the oldest beings in Middle Earth. She's also kind of Sauron's "pet cat" as Tolkien described. Also, she keeps trespassers out of Mordor's "backdoor" which is why Sauron won't kill her. Just a little "fun" fact
"Just a little "fun" fact"
"Looks like Shelob's been having a bit of fun."
Not as old as Ungoliant ;)
@@mudageki I know, but still VERY old
@@mudageki But Ungoliant is supposedly dead after devouring herself in insatiable hunger.
A little easter egg.. the pirate gets a arrow by Legolas is in fact Peter Jackson, the director of the movies!! hehe😜 btw you managed to make me emotional on the charge of the rohirrim you were so excited! loved the reaction thank you for share it!!😁
Another fun fact when sams arm comes into frame when Shelob is wrapping up frodo, that’s also Peter Jackson😂 2 cameos from him in this movie
PJ's wasn't the only cameo in that scene. The corsair who reacted in fear to the charging ghosts was Andrew Lesnie (1956-2015), the trilogy's cinematographer.
Thank you guys 😍❤🤣
@@thelibrarian6976 Actually, most of the "front row" pirates are LotR staff. You also got Rick Porras (producer) and Gino Acevedo (Weta's senior prosthetics supervisor) in there.
@@agp11001 what a glorious felloship it is so fun and heart warming to learn that the staff had so much fun joining the shooting. Thank you mate!
Props for noticing the tree blooming! I feel like a lot of reactors don't notice the smaller details like that.
Addie : "How many skulls they have??!"
Director : "Yes"
Love the reaction
(Before characters enter the cavern) "Are those skulls?" Oh you have NO idea! XD
People who love the books will be upset at how Denethor is really turned into a secondary antagonist for this film, but considering this movie is ALREADY 4 hours, I think it's actually smart from a filmmaking perspective and allows us to have someone nearby to create conflict for the protagonists.
In general, Jackson did wrong by Boromir's family. Faramir *never* considered taking the Ring, and helped Frodo from the start. And Denethor was driven mad by his own use of a Palantir, but wasn't an incompetent A-hole. He did a good job of defending the city (he conducted affairs wearing a full suit of mail, to keep himself fit), he called for Rohan's aid, and didn't mistreat Faramir. He just succumbed to Sauron's lies and fell into despair in the end.
@@davidkulmaczewski4911 if by doing wrong you mean deviated from Tolkien then yes. But ultimately I think (and I guess the directors and LOTR film teams agreed) it made for better movie. Great thing about this trilogy is how despite changing little things (like including elves at helms deep out of left field), overall they got everything mostly right from a thematic and structural standpoint. And when you change something, keeping those things working in tandem ensures things don’t feel jarring.
Yet nobody complains about how humble they made Aragorn lol. He had no problem running around and flashing that sword in the book. “This is the blade that broken but has been remade. Behold my sexy bloodline” something like that.
@@Landwehr900 To add, things like Bombadil are a huge diversion from a film standpoint. It was also wise to make Glorfindel just be Arwen and kinda take that arc to another level not mentioned much in the book. Overall, I think they did a great job appropriately adapting the story to film while holding true to many themes.
Though, I think that Boromir scene in Two Towers after reclaiming Osgiliath was still necessary to leave in for a theatrical cut. That scene alone really established the Denethor and sons, at least the way the movie was taking their character arcs.
@@morothane Yeah, book Aragorn was way more confident than movie Aragorn. Also remembering that in the book Andúril was reforged before they even left Rivendell, another change made for the movie.
In general, I think the extended cut is a better way to watch the movie, but there is one instance where the theatrical is superior. The army of the dead’s answer is unknown until they show up at Pelennor Fields for the battle. Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli’s story ends at Aragorn asking, “Waht say you?” so them hopping off the pirate ship with an army of ghosts is a bit more of a surprise. That having been said, the extended cut was really for crazy people like me who wanted a 4 hour cut of an already long movie, so it was safe to assume people watching it already knew what was going to happen and just wanted more detail.
I'm in the minority that I prefer the cinematic cut. But I think it's because that's what I saw in the cinema with my family. Like you mentioned, not all the reincluded scenes add to the films, though many do.
@@RJALEXANDER777 totally understandable. I also watched the theatrical when it came out with my folks, but we went on to completely devour the extended cut DVD and all of its special features together. The close of the Return of the King making of is almost as emotional as the movie.
@@houdin654jeff Ah yeah, DVD's had a lot more special features back then. Back when they were still competing with video.
I think the theatrical cut is better in most respects, but it's fun to get additional content once you've seen it many times.
And yet that 4+ hour cut STILL doesn't feel like it's 4+ hours long. It is a testament to both the written source material and Peter Jackson's incredible talent as a director that somehow 12 hours of film doesn't feel long enough. lol. Epic hardly begins to do this madness justice. It's just amazing. Still.
11:02 - The unfortunate victim of Legolas's shot, is none other than Peter Jackson, the director of these movies. He has a "split-second" cameo in each of the three films. 😆
Theoden's speech never fails to get me both pumped and a bit emotional. To be honest I prefer it to Aragorn's later one in front of the Black Gate, though I suspect that isn't super unusual
I think you call tell that Theoden's speech is lifted pretty much straight from the book, Aragorn's is made up for the film; like you I much prefer the former myself. My favourite line from the entire movie series is in this bit however, it's one line that Theoden says when Aragorn and the others have taken the Dimholt road and (I think it's Grimbold) says they can't defeat the armies of Mordor - "No, but we shall meet them in battle nonetheless." for me it's nails and Bernard Hill delivers it brilliantly.
I don't like that speech of Aragorn, maybe because it doesn't exist in the book and doesn't have the same emotional force as the one Théoden gave, but that's me.
When my folks got their first 50” HD television, I brought over my extended version and we christened it with Rohan’s charge. It was and is glorious.
@@Riothamus It can never be understated how amazing of a job Bernard Hill does as Theoden. I don't know if he was a big fan of the books beforehand but you can tell he is just 1000% into his character and his dialogue
Eh, I actually prefer Aragorn's, though they're both great.
I'm pretty okay with most of the changes made or added from the books, and Viggo's performance shines through so much. So uplifting that his horse even lifted up unscripted haha.
You noticed the tree blooming and that made me super happy. I love how you catch so many little details. Bravo!
08:09 In the writer/director commentary on the DVD, one of the writer insists the skull on that one Orc's helmet is his mother, and he promised to always take her with him into battle.
17:10 This demonstrates an important little detail about Hobbits. They are very tough, very agile, with excellent hand-to-eye coordination. In THE HOBBIT it is noted during a terrible winter which froze the Brandywine river, an army of Orcs invaded the Shire. They were wiped out. Because Hobbits don't like to fight, but are not at all easy to kill or defeat.
Also from Fellowship Book: All the foxes and such in the shire knew to get out when a Hobbit reached for a stone... When a Hobbit throws a stone, he or she almost always hits the target. (remember in the battle where Boromir dies, Merry and Pippin both took out an orc each with a rock!)
@@brettpeacock9116 Hobbit archers are skillful foes--just ask the Isengarders in The Scouring of the Shire. Oops, you can't--they're dead.
Hobbits are feared for two things in war, pikemen and bowmen. As individuals it is best to always run if they reach for a stone. Also hobbits are extremely sneaky naturally, they like elves move without sound in natural areas. Interestingly hobbits are the one thing trolls fear above all else (too small to hit and are too dang fast to catch).
Denethor was that way cause Sauron influenced his mind when he was using the Palathir ( the sphere ) to get pieces of information, not at the same level as Théoden.
I've watched the trilogy at least 10 times I think and the charge of the Rohirrim still gives me the chills every time.
It was by showing him information from the worst possible angle that drove Denethor into paranoia and despair. The best instance is showing the black fleet moving up to the Pelenor Fields, but not allowing Denethor to see WHO was in command of the ships at that point - Sauron did that throughout with the visions in the palantir. Not lies or fabrications, just the worst possible perspective on the truth.
Shadowfax kill him,😁
Then the Black Captain rose in his stirrups and cried aloud in a dreadful voice, speaking in some forgotten tongue words of power and terror to rend both heart and stone.
Thrice he cried. Thrice the great ram boomed. And suddenly upon the last stroke the Gate of Gondor broke. As if stricken by some blasting spell it burst asunder: there was a flash of searing lightning, and the doors tumbled in riven fragments to the ground.
In rode the Lord of the Nazgul. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgul, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.
All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dinen.
"You cannot enter here," said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. "Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!"
The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter.
"Old fool!" he said. "Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!" And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.
Gandalf did not move. And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the City, a cock crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of wizardry or war, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn.
And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns. In dark Mindolluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the North wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last.
But it was no orc-chieftain or brigand that led the assault upon Gondor. The darkness was breaking too soon, before the date that his Master had set for it: fortune had betrayed him for the moment, and the world had turned against him; victory was slipping from his grasp even as he stretched out his hand to seize it. But his arm was long. He was still in command, wielding great powers. King, Righwraith, Lord of the Nazgul, he had many weapons. He left the Gate and vanished.
As a fan of the books, every time I see this and the camera pans past the tree with one bloom, it brings me to tears. Seven Stars, and Seven Stones, and One White Tree
The handling of Denethor is one of my few criticisms of these films. Book!Denethor was a much more tragic character and far less of a hate-sink. He was stronger of will than even Saruman, who willingly joined with Sauron. Book!Denethor summoned Gondor's armies to defend the city, evacuated the civilians, and lit the beacons to summon aid from Rohan. But he was also a masterful man, full of unbending pride, even in the face of utter despair, and would rather go out on his own terms than wait for what he felt was an inevitable death at the hands of Sauron's forces. It really is very sad.
I completely agree. Peter Jackson & Co. did a wonderful job adapting an "unfilmable" story to the screen, but they wasted an excellent performance by John Noble on a one-dimensional character. The Denethor of the book is a fascinating mixture of power and weakness, and it isn't until his death in the fire that the reader discovers that he too held a Palantir, which Sauron used to overthrow his mind.
He sends the Red Arrow, not lighting beacons to call for Rohan, but yes, you are correct about his adaptation.
@@ComicalHealing They did both, actually. Pippin notes the beacons as he and Gandalf are riding to Minas Tirith, and the messenger with the Red Arrow arrives while the Rohirrim are mustering at Dunharrow.
@@evenmoor yes but they were used to warn the regions of Gondor, not to call for aid from Rohan.
True. And Denethor only truly snapped when he thought that Faramir had died (who "died" not being sent out on a fool's errand but leading a fighting retreat as Mordor pushed him and his me back towards Minas Tirith), and the city was fully under siege.
2:01 A point to remember when watching Elrond’s obsessive efforts to persuade his daughter Arwin to sail West and not marry Aragorn are that Elves are immortal. When one dies, as Arwin will if she stays in Middle Earth, her kin will mourn her FOREVER. To Elves it seems a crazy obscene sacrifice for one of their loved ones to voluntarily give up immortality
I like how the horses are like "screw this!" and they just bounce.
"Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed."
The book does not reveal that Eowyn in going into battle until much later. Even Merry is unaware of who he is riding with.
Yes it is a great reveal in the book.
Probably too difficult to film, though I love the exchange in the book between Eowyn and the Witch King: "Begone, foul dwimmerlaik! Lord of carrion!"
I'm so excited! Great reaction! Your face during the charge of the riders of Rohan was everything! Can't wait for #3!
"Frodo keeps getting stabbed!!!" Yeah, that seems to be his lot in life! 🙈
Another Tolkien tome for you to read that will tie his universe together: The Silmarillion. The entire condensed history of Middle Earth, covering thousands of years, the creation story, and highlights of all the cultures. Some stories, but mostly history and exposition. Makes it all coalesce.
Only downside to reading it is that you will need to reread it several times to understand what's going on lol
@@bynflew8552 I took notes of every name, every place, every race, gods, their festivities... and still it took me a while to read it having to go through all the notes
@@bynflew8552 that's not a downside... That's fantastic!
Absolutely. And it also makes you (edit: at least me) appreciate what a great job Jackson et al did with the movies. Not perfect, but I can't see how they could have been done better (except by making Gimli more regal and just editing out Legolas on a skateboard etc.).. But it was a tight balance of fan service, mass appeal, and nods to the universe as described by Tolkien. Why did Legolas smile when Gimli said that he received three hairs from Galadriel? The Silmarillion will tell you. Why do the elves go to the west? Why was the wolf's head ram called Grond? Who were the Dunedain and why was Aragorn important in the first place etc. etc. etc. It fills in all the gaps.
No one needs to read that bible of middle earth lol im a huge Tolkien fan but come on.
10:49 Another fun fact: The Orcs were chanting "Grond" which is the name of the battering ram used in the battle of Gondor. It is also known as "The Wolf's Head" and was named after a warhammer that Sauron's own master, Morgoth, used when he attempted to conquer Middle-Earth in the first age. Which Morgoth was _much_ worse than Sauron, but he also is also referred to as "The First Dark Lord."
The theme that runs through all of this story is hope vs despair. When we despair do we allow hope to lift us or do we succumb to it. Denethor, Sauruman, succumbed. Frodo reached and took Galadriel's hand, choosing (an active choice) hope. Gandalf always found hope no matter how dark a situation was and gave that hope to others. Aragorn always told others "there is always hope." Legolas begged Aragorn's forgiveness for taking the wrong path of despair at Helm's Deep. It's one of the core messages of the story. That there is some good left in the world, and it's worth fighting for. When Theoden and the Rohirrim arrive at Minas Tirith and look down on the battle... the scale of that battle hits home hard. The shock on their faces feels so real. And yet Theoden rallies them. They don't ride down that hill shouting death to their enemies. They are screaming death because they know they likely won't survive this, and they are okay with that. They have come to peace with their own deaths and are charging anyway. That is utterly terrifying. You can't defeat that. You just get run over.
Glad to see you did a part 3. When I saw the length of this one I said to my self, "No Way" for this to be the concluding reaction!
Thanks for reacting / reviewing this greatest of all trilogy's. The Hobbit trilogy is a close second.
_"How many skulls do they have!?"_
The props department asked that same question. At first the answer was "how about a couple of thousand". Then "actually can you make ten thousand" ... and then a couple of weeks later "how about a couple of hundred thousand .. in two weeks"...
Every single aspect of this movie shoot was insane.
Frodo's sword that Bilbo gave to him actually had the inscription, "Maegnas is my name, I am the spider's bane" It was specially enchanted to do damage to spiders, but even with that, it was only Shelob's own weight coming down that gave it the force needed to pierce her belly.
Now silently the host of Rohan moved forward into the field of Gondor, pouring in slowly but steadily....
After a while the king led his men away somewhat eastward, to come between the fires of the siege and the outer fields. Still they were unchallenged, and still Théoden gave no signal.... A smell of burning was in the air and a very shadow of death. The horses were uneasy. But the king sat upon Snowmane, motionless, gazing upon the agony of Minas Tirith, as if stricken suddenly by anguish, or by dread. He seemed to shrink down, cowed by age. Merry himself felt as if a great weight of horror and doubt had settled on him.... They were too late! Too late was worse than never!....
Then suddenly Merry felt it at last, beyond doubt: a change. Wind was in his face! Light was glimmering....
But at that same moment there was a flash, as if lightning had sprung from the earth beneath the City. For a searing second it stood dazzling far off in black and white, its topmost tower like a glittering needle: and then as the darkness closed again there came rolling over the fields a great boom.
At that sound the bent shape of the king sprang suddenly erect. Tall and proud he seemed again; and rising in his stirrups he cried in a loud voice, more clear than any there had ever heard a mortal man achieve before:
Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden!
Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter!
spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!
With that he seized a great horn from Guthláf his banner-bearer, and he blew such a blast upon it that it burst asunder. And straightway all the horns in the host were lifted up in music, and the blowing of the horns of Rohan in that hour was like a storm upon the plain and a thunder in the mountains.
Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!
Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and the darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.
No men, orcs, elves, or any other beings of middle earth had ever harmed Shelob (the giant spider) before Samwise the Brave defeated her.
Can’t wait for part 3! Thank you for sharing this with us.
Frodo really is a stab magnet. I never noticed that before.
Something I wish they had included from the books is that when Aragorn captures the corsair ships he frees the galley slaves who are men from Gondar. They then pick up Rangers and South Gondorians who then sail to Minis Tirth to fight. It is not the army of the dead that causes the orcs to lose heart and flee but rather the flag of Gondar flying on ships led by the King. It's slightly less of a deus machina.
Nice reaction! Your emotional roller coaster ride is a testament not only to Tolkein's original work but to the outrageously great work if Peter Jackson and all those who created this series.
“Frodo keeps getting stabbed”. 💀
I just discovered you and will be watching more! Definitely earned a sub!
I remember going to see this opening night in theaters. There were quite a few people who clapped when Gandalf smacked Denethor with his staff.
What never fails to amuse me is someone taught the trolls to play the drums 😂
Musicians generally agree with you about drummers. ;-)
19:00 "That is no orc horn!"
Andy Serkis, the actor who played the role of Gollum, recently recorded an unabridged audiobook of The Lord of the Rings. It is excellent. Also, it is over 61 hours long! Be ready for a long read!
God this movie is so beautiful I'm crying AGAIN.
To bring some context to Denethor. While he may seem like a horrible steward he was actually pretty good, the movies made him a bit more antagonistic and a bit more mad, which I think works for the movies. His madness also has an explanation, Denethor actually has one of the palantir, the seeing stones, and has been using it. But Sauron used the stone to only show Denethor images of the unending, unbeatable forces of Mordor until Denethor knew nothing but despair. This constant striving of Denethors will with Saurons basically broke him mentally, leading to what we see here.
"The world of Men will fall"
*Rohan has entered the chat*
I know some Tolkien nerd has probably already explained why, but Sam vs Shelob is the best fight scene in all of this franchise (in competition with Huan and all of his fight scenes in the silmarilion)
Shelob wasn’t just huge. It was flipping enormous.
19:11 - thus begins, in my view, the greatest attack sequence in the trilogy. I had been waiting to see this particular scene my whole adult life, most of the time without hope, having reached the age of 50 at that point. Jackson had been ramping up the numbers involved gradually and insidiously through the 3 films. You said there were a lot of orcs when the Fellowship was broken. You said there were a lot of orcs when that woman sent her two children away to safety in the Two Towers. You said that it was a big army that Saruman raised. Now we have Sauron's army, and Theoden's riders up against them. I wasn't disappointed in the outcome of the charge: I know that the Ride of the Rohirrim is a favourite of many, many, many other fans. I also know that there are lots of moments throughout the trilogy that are way more intimate, or sad, or terrible, or triumphant, or uplifting. But *this* is my favourite moment of all.
7:08 - "How many skulls do they have?" 80,000. According to the behind the scenes extras, that's how many miniature skulls they had to mold, cast, and paint to fill that avalanche. They started with a whole mess of 'em, tried a shot on the miniature set, and it was not enough. So they made more. Still not enough. Then they made a shit-ton more! The final number was about 80,000. Plus a whole bunch of life-size skulls for the actors to actually interact with, number unknown.
I read a reddit post that tried to use math and geometry to calculate the approximate number of skulls that might theoretically be contained in the avalanche, and they came up with 1.6 million!!
By the way, Peter Jackson specifically put those who had read the book and knew how important Theoden's speech was, that's why it looks so epic,
never been this early to a reaction vid before, also you got yourself a new subscriber
I love Addie's noise reactions xD
Unfortunately the tunnel WAS the only way for Frodo and Sam to get into Mordor in order to get to Mount Doom. Gollum just didn't warn them what was IN the tunnel so they would be prepared to fight.
Gandalf's power doesn't come from his staff, it comes from the fact he is an extra-dimensional, quasi-angelic being who is literally older than the sun.
He ain't gonna email you!
Okay I watched LOTR a zillion time but OMG I feel the suspense through your emotions! Let's get ready for the last ride of this serie! 🧙♂️🧝♂️🌋🗡️
The enemy never learns the lesson of never get into a close quarters fight with those that are eye level to your genitals.
When Sam finds Frodo being wrapped up by the spider: "Get away from him, you bitch!"
Wait, mixing movies.
The production team added more and more skulls to the set of the ghost town until the shot felt right. And you can see that. It feels more real than pure CGI.
Oh! Hmm! Ooh! Ah! OK ...! Oh no! What? Wh-wh-why? Heh heh. Is it ..? oww! ugh! ooh argh yuk, whoa, dang. Nice. NICE! (How do you spell 'sharp intake of breath'?) Anyhow, I love it.
"How many skulls do they have?" - Only one each.
LOL Told you you'd regret asking who SHE was.
If you don’t like giant spiders, definitely don’t Google image search Ungoliant, Shelob’s mother.
Someone needs to tell Eomer that Merry knows quite a bit about war at this point, and that he has already stood and fought several times. Merry has probably seen as much combat as quite a few of the Rohirrim.
11:00 the pirate that was shot by Legolas' arrow was director Peter Jackson himself!
5:25 The Orcs are chanting: ''Katmuda'' (Death to men), on which an Orc captain replies: Gorosh (Louder).
Ride now, ride now, ride! Ride for ruin and the world's ending!
All of these movies are just epic. But the 2nd half of Return of the King goes so hard it defies description. I can't imagine having to be the director of this insanity and keep track of all of it. So many moving pieces, and to put it all together in a way that it flows and makes sense. I am also utterly stunned to this day how unbelievably good the CG on this film was. It's very difficult, even knowing, to tell which parts they did CG, which are practical sets, which are miniatures. And often a single shot will have all 3 in it. They'll film foreground stuff on a real set piece, fill the background with insanely detailed MASSIVE miniatures. Use ai software they created for large crowds to people the background, have CG major characters flying through, hero actors and scale doubles swapping in and out depending on the shot angle. It's madness. Legitimately.
Peter Jackson has a cameo in each of the films. Did you catch them all? They are very brief. A lot of the production staff and producers and crew also have cameos. Many of the production staff worked their asses off to make these films too and took their cameos very seriously.
Also, that ai software. They called it MASSIVE. They spent months on a motion capture stage capturing generic motions. Walk. Run. Crawl. Stagger. Stubble. Left leg injury. Right leg injury. Every possible way to swing every imaginable weapon or shield. THOUSANDS of simple motions. From dozens of people so there are countless variations. Then they build a decision tree and say, "this is an orc. It needs to walk from A to B over x terrain" So it chooses walk motions and knows is it rocky or flat, etc. It can "hear" nearby friends and enemies and make decisions accordingly. Oh, enemy.. attack. Run, swing, block thrust, parry. Okay, now we need 100,000 of these soldiers all doing this together. And you get the long shots of all the armies fighting. Even motion captured horses for Rohan. It's insane and won a couple technical academy awards. Massive is used to this day for huge crowd shots of all kinds in film, tv, commercials.
lol. when Gimli messes up Legolas' shot, he shoots the director of the movie who on the ship. lmao.
Peter Jackson making another of his on-screen cameos as the ship Corsair shot by Legolas (with Gimli's help).
Piece of trivia: Sauron did not launch attack only on Minas Tirith. At the same timie his armies attack Lorien mulitiple times, Woodland Kingdom of Elves from Mirkwood and dwarven city of Erebor far in the North. Sauron forces was battled across continent.
7:30 that wasn't in the theatrical release. When the army of the dead arrived on the battlefield everyone was surprised and was ecstatic
Nice reactions to part 2, Addie!🎬👏🏽Well Done!
Shadowfax is my favorite horse in a movie 21:02
10:54 the guy who got shot is Peter Jackson
Ps I always hated they added this scene in the extended version, it's cute and all but they took all the surprise away from the later scene when the ships arrive
Galdalf beating Denathor's ass...priceless every time I see it.
"How many skulls do they have!?"
Yes
Have to say those ghosts got lucky only having to fight in only one battle. when others have battle in more
The Spiders mother was even bigger than that.
SIDE NOTE, Peter Jackson is afraid of Spiders too, and he pushed them to design Shelob until it made HIM so scared. . LOL :D
'your father loves you faramir... he will remember it before the end'
I don't know. In the book I believed it and there are also great illustrations by Anke Eissmann where Denethor sits by Faramir's bed😢, but im the film first trying to kill him deliberately and then whining that his line has ended only seem like more madness.🤔
Gondor has *trebuchets*, not inferior catapults. The trebuchet is a far superior siege weapon....
A trebuchet is a type of catapult.
I was going to mention that. However they are basically in the same category. The trebuchet just has more range when it comes to distance if I remember my history correctly.
@@toodlescae It does. I've built 20 footers of both types.
@@toodlescae More range, and able to heave a heavier stone.
As always love your genuine reactions. I also love the chance to see not only the movie but the whole story with fresh eyes. I loved the movies but I'd read the books and knew, generally, what was coming so I could love the adaptation but couldn't see the story anew.
Some very prescient observations sprinkled throughout the reaction Addie! And you haven't shed overmuch tears thus far, IMO... Are you saving them for Part 3? I look fwd to the conclusion of your LotR analysis.
You'll see! :)
Hey,@@AddieCounts... I know it gets pretty emotional after all the surprises still to come.
The books handle the meeting between Gandalf and the Witch King a bit differently. And if you think about it, there’s actually *no*way* the witch king has much of a chance against him. Gandalf is a whole different class of being than the Witch King, who after all, is just a man.
The ghost of a man, even.
You have the BEST reactions so you deserve a SUB! :)
Love these reactions!
The Battle for Helm's Deep; Roughly 10,00 Uruk-Hai
The Battle for Minas Tirith; Roughly 180,000 Orcs
Those aren't exactly "catapults" that the Gondorians have at Minas Tirith, Addie. Those are an advanced class of catapult known as Trebuchets. Trebuchets have MUCH greater range than typical catapults and can hurl MUCH heavier ammo (as evidenced by the fact that Gondor Trebuchets literally use RUBBLE from their destroyed buildings as ammo).
My question always was:
HOW did they load that rubble on the trebuchet in the first place??? XD
@@vinnycordeiro Probably with some kind of crane.
Great reaction Addie! Keep up the good work
just fyi 11:06 , thats the director Peter Jackson as a cameo who got shot by Legolas lol 🤣🤣
Addie, these reactions just keep getting better and better. Also you kind of look like Eowyn, but with darker hair.
the horses you see going down are actually digital horses added into the shot . the reason is that it would have been impossible to do that and have the other riders be safe and so no animals were harmed.
Keep in mind Elrond’s line is from the POV of an elf. “Not king survive the coming darkness” doesn’t mean she’ll die next week…
Poor Arwen......She goes to the West and she lives forever but forever heartbroken. She stays, and she'll watch Aragorn die and then she will die.
She sacrificed herself for love and ALSO added Royal Elvish blood into the line of Humans, even the Dunedain. That was HUGE
The Royal line ALREADY had Elvish blood, as Aragorn is a descendant of Beren and Lúthien.
True, but Elrond did lament that maybe this was his role in the world, to give strength to the line of men.
@@ugaladh He lost his brother Elros thousands of years before, when he chose humanity. He lost his wife, who had to sail to Valinor to find healing after being captured and tortured by orcs. He lost his daughter, to marrying Aragorn. It's also very likely his twin sons Elladan and Elrohir chose to stay in Middle-Earth, too, because they were great friends of Aragorn, and in the books rode with him through the Paths of the Dead.
Imagine being Elrond, arriving in Valinor, and seeing his wife for the first time in centuries, and her looking to see their children...and him having to tell her that she'll never see them again.
What is even more poignant.... while the elves understand their own immortal fate and what happens to their spirit if the body dies, no one in Middle Earth understands the ultimate fate of men after death; they are said to 'leave the circles of the World'. So from Elrond's perspective, he is losing his daughter for all eternity, even in the afterlife. It is a permanent parting, where such partings are not normal for elves.