Givi Canyon GRT709 Off-Road Luggage (Best Adventure Luggage Ever?)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @leatt4693
    @leatt4693 2 года назад +2

    I am glad you have the tusk pannier rack system as I purchased the same rack and was just guessing if this luggage system would work with it! The tusk rack is 18mm dia. and the Givi luggage system has a 16mm and 18mm dia. bracket, that's all I went on when I purchased everything! This video is nice for confirmation of that!

  • @sharonsharon2604
    @sharonsharon2604 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you!
    I have a Tusk side racks and you helped me find a solution for soft luggage that is narrow and good for tight traffic conditions...
    Great review

  • @othoapproto9603
    @othoapproto9603 3 года назад +1

    Some nice features. Like that removable waterproof system, the lock is meaningless. My 2-month-old soft bags we slit and all the content stolen. I was left with useless bags. In 10 years never had my aluminum bags messed with. Thanks for a nice video.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      That's awful. I am reserving the soft bags when I will be offroad. I am adding aluminum panniers for security when touring.

  • @davidskaggs9914
    @davidskaggs9914 4 года назад +3

    Great review. I have aluminum panniers on my Tiger 800 but been thinking to get some soft bags. These look exactly what I'm looking for.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад

      I have been using them for over a year in all kinds of conditions. They have been really great saddlebags.

  • @fabienpics
    @fabienpics 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for all the info, and good video job👍👍👍
    About the product, the plastic parts Attached to the tubing rack , it is tough enough for don't easy broke if the bike drope whiteout the luggage on,......

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад +1

      The plastic parts were fine when I dropped the bike without the luggage. I had one plastic clip break but replaced it with a spare no problem.

    • @fabienpics
      @fabienpics 3 года назад

      @@advmatt thank you 👍

  • @GavCritchley
    @GavCritchley 5 лет назад +2

    These look great, best solution for a replacement for my Givi hard TRK Monokeys. The Nylon plate looks like it'll fit straight onto the existing Givi rack I have. Good video Matt!

    • @MeOrNotMeWhoKnows
      @MeOrNotMeWhoKnows 5 лет назад +2

      Questionable mounting design. That plate makes Givi's PL racks incompatible with Monokey cases, so if I want to go with soft luggage for an off-road trip today - I have to mount this plate. Then, when I want to put back the Trekker cases (TRK33 in my case) for a kind of trip where hard luggage is more suitable - I have to get that plate off the bike. Which is too much hassle, and knowing Givi's "quality", putting that plate on and off multiple times will eventually wear something out and it'll stop working properly. This is bad design. They should've made it with Monokey mount out of the box, so that all the people that already have monokey racks would just use these bags in the same plug&play way as hard cases. And everyone else, with generic tubular racks - those folks would use a plate that converts their racks to monokey mount. This, plus multiple reports of these bags getting damaged on light impact, and being hugely overpriced for what they are (as most of givi stuff is though) - I'm not gonna be buying these. And they're quite heavy as well, TRK33 case is 5.2-5.3kg, and these, according to another review on youtube, are 3.2kg each + almost 1kg for the plate with fasteners. Again, due to bad design (everyone has to install that stupid heavy plate), it's ~4.2kg for each side = only 1kg lighter than a plastic hard case. Hopefully givi will eventually make some soft luggage that fits their own standard mounts instead of making everyone install these weird plates.

    • @GavCritchley
      @GavCritchley 5 лет назад

      @@MeOrNotMeWhoKnows OK...so you're not a fan. What are you going to use instead? I have TRK's and they are just too heavy. They weigh more than the contents. Interested to know your thoughts.

    • @MeOrNotMeWhoKnows
      @MeOrNotMeWhoKnows 5 лет назад +1

      @@GavCritchley For now I'll just stick with TRK33 cases. I'd like to have something lighter too, but 1kg savings per side is just not enough difference for me. And there's no way I'm gonna be putting those plates on and off every time I switch between hard and soft luggage. I don't plan to replace my TRK's though as you do, I'm just looking for lighter soft luggage for some trips while still keeping the plastic cases for others. If you don't need your TRK's and you're looking for soft luggage to replace your plastic cases with, then maybe these GRT709 will work for you just fine - you'll only have to install those plates once after all. This season is almost over for me anyway, the next multi-thousand km trip is only happening in April 2020 (and that's likely to be Georgia and Armenia, so plenty of off-road where I'm likely to bring some soft luggage), got a few months to find something suitable. If givi doesn't release any monokey-compatible soft luggage till the next Spring, I'll either go with some other brand, or even try DIY. There's a Russian dude I follow on youtube that went to that region a few times and after struggling with aluminum cases he decided to go with DIY soft luggage next time. Which is ~ $20 in his estimation. :) ruclips.net/video/Ohc0RsyE5zA/видео.html&t= I might do something similar, though I'd try to add monokey mounting to those to be able to lock them with just a click, like hard cases do. Not gonna cost me $20, of course, but definitely a lot less than givi asks for GRT709. :)

    • @GavCritchley
      @GavCritchley 5 лет назад +1

      @@MeOrNotMeWhoKnows I'd be interested to see what you choose. Best of luck with your travels.

    • @GavCritchley
      @GavCritchley 5 лет назад

      @@MeOrNotMeWhoKnows I've just watched that Russian guys video. I think he's onto something there. I think they must be 20-25 litre canisters? I'd so a similar thing, but just bolt a sturdy wire mesh frame onto one side, drop that over the monokey studs, and padlock it on. 25 litre canisters are £18 a pair. Then either drop in dry bags or find something else that fits.

  • @fredzuccarelli
    @fredzuccarelli Год назад +1

    On the givi quick release racks, this is the best combo. Nice review!!!! Hope they worked out for you

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  Год назад

      I did another video after two years of using these bags. I was less than impressed. They did not hold up as well as I had hoped, especially for the cost. For light travel they are great, but for rough offroad riding they didn't fair too well.

    • @fredzuccarelli
      @fredzuccarelli Год назад

      @@advmatt hmmmm....will go watch now. That's disappointing. I'm a touring/light gravel roads kinda guy on my gs adventure.

  • @ownyourworld
    @ownyourworld 2 года назад

    I have been looking into these thanks for the review . I’ll be replacing my lomo bags next year.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  2 года назад

      I did a follow-up video to this you should watch. ruclips.net/video/fguW-2PUIUs/видео.html

  • @Brunoxtr
    @Brunoxtr 4 года назад +1

    Nice set of bags. Good alternative to the Givi Aluminum ones.

  • @xlbigboy
    @xlbigboy 5 лет назад +4

    nice review, answers many of my questions! bags are looking nice and well thought-out, my only concern is that plastic bracket that holds the mounting plate, would be better if they could make it CNC alloy... what do you think? or is it sturdy enough? as it holds the whole weight basically

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      Thanks. So far I have not had issues with the mounting plate and I take the bags on and off all of the time. I tend to overload the bags too. I have not dropped the bike with these bags so I am not sure how they will hold up when the bike goes down. I think in a hard enough crash the plate might give but it would have to pretty hard, in my opinion. The ease in which these bags can be taken on and off, the space they provide and functionality has so far been worth it to me over other bags.

  • @napadaanlng69
    @napadaanlng69 3 года назад +1

    The only downside to this bag is don't overload it with heavy stuff as in really heavy where the bags just looks like its gonna fall off. Chances are you won't notice that the stiches in the bag gets loosen.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      I just released a review of this bag after 2 years and 30k miles. I had issues.

    • @napadaanlng69
      @napadaanlng69 3 года назад +1

      @@advmatt Oh wow just uploaded 2 days ago. Might as well check it.

  • @doruksrtoglu408
    @doruksrtoglu408 2 года назад +1

    You got my like mister 👍

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  2 года назад +1

      You might want to watch my follow up video as well.
      ruclips.net/video/fguW-2PUIUs/видео.html

  • @rowdyrodb
    @rowdyrodb 4 года назад +2

    Great vid, many thanks.

  • @marymadeiras294
    @marymadeiras294 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this great info! One question...Since the bags hook downwards onto the plate, can they pop off if riding over very bumpy terrain?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      I recommend you watch another video I put together linked here, and I did end up losing my right side bag, I either didnt get locked I to place well enough or it broke off. Also check out my video titled, 'When everything goes wrong.' These bags are highlighted. Hope this helps. ruclips.net/video/fguW-2PUIUs/видео.html

  • @Active_Life
    @Active_Life 4 года назад

    Thank you for your feedback! Great bags! I wonder how they bear falls.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +2

      My bike has gone down several times with these bags without issues, but nothing extreme. Some others have complained the bags came apart too easily. I have been happy with the bags.

    • @Active_Life
      @Active_Life 4 года назад

      @@advmatt Thank you for your feedback. I'll buy the same ones.

  • @jdmilan2344
    @jdmilan2344 5 лет назад +1

    When those break look at the Bumont Xtremada soft bags.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the suggestion they look like good bags.

  • @lroacho
    @lroacho 4 года назад +1

    Hey Matt, where in NM are you at? I'm in the ABQ area and I just picked up a F850GS Adventure from Sandia BMW. Do you ride in any ADV groups?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад

      Congrats on the new bike. I live in ABQ too. I rarely ride with any groups but there are several here you should connect. There is an official group called The Enchanted Riders of NM or something like that. They have info at the BMW shop. There are also two Facebook groups, GS Riders of New Mexico and the Triumph Tiger Troop of the Southwest. I have ridden with people from both groups and they are active on Facebook. Really great group of riders. I have trouble with timing working with group rides. There is also a BMW rally in Sipapu in the fall. I keep missing it but hear it is good. Cheers.

  • @bhavinnagda865
    @bhavinnagda865 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing video ,Dose the mounting plate comes along with the bags ?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      Thanks, and yes the mounting plates and brackets come with the bags.

  • @mundo.selecto73
    @mundo.selecto73 3 года назад +1

    Thank you!

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      If you havent seen my long term review may want to check it out. It posted a few weeks ago.

  • @jojitsu56
    @jojitsu56 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the great info, how are they doing? I've heard they are not very tough..

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +4

      So far the bags are fine. I have not had any drops to test their durability. I have enjoyed the ability to remove them. Almost 6k miles of travel on them in all weather conditions. So far no issues. I think the main bag is only 30 liters. The extra 5 liters come from the external pouches. I didn't know that until I started packing regularly.

  • @01legendmc
    @01legendmc 3 года назад +1

    Hi Matt, Did you ever do a 1 year follow-up on the Givi bags? If not, are you still happy with them? Did they hold up? Thank you!

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад +1

      I did not, but one is coming in the next few months. They have held up reasonably well but i have learned a few things that will be easier to describe in a video. Overall I still like these bags and their functionality.

    • @juancarlosfloreshernandez9093
      @juancarlosfloreshernandez9093 3 года назад

      Did you see the kriegabags?

  • @paradoxiCk
    @paradoxiCk 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for review! How is it with a pillion? Is it uncomfortable for pillion?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +2

      Not sure yet, I haven't had a pillion with this luggage. I have sat on the bike like a pillion and my legs didn't contact it.

  • @nigelspoljaric8363
    @nigelspoljaric8363 4 года назад

    Hi Matt
    Re mounting brackets on the givis do you think they would fit on the SW Motech pro panniers. As they are not tubular..are the mounting brackets wide enough to cover that? Just can't find any info on these bags and the racks I have installed.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      I just pulled out one of the spare inner clamps. The widest rack it will accept is 1 1/4" or approximately 32mm. The depth is 1/4" or 6.35mm. I looked at this pannier rack and I think there are ways to adapt the plate but it will take some engineering. These plates won't bolt up using the brackets. I do think you might be able to remove the tabs on the rack and use those spots to attach the mounting plate. It might require a little drilling. Hope this helps.

    • @nigelspoljaric8363
      @nigelspoljaric8363 4 года назад +1

      @@advmatt thanks for your time and effort. The only reason I want these racks are they can be removed quickly when not using. I have the 790 adventure

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад

      @@nigelspoljaric8363 That was the same reason I went with them.

    • @nigelspoljaric8363
      @nigelspoljaric8363 4 года назад

      @@advmatt sorry Matt you have the Sw Motech pro panniers? Are you planning to put the givi on these?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад

      I dont have those panniers. I have Tusk panniers that I mounted these on. I might move the bags to my KTM 390 Adventure, but I bought a tubular luggage rack for it.

  • @333adventures6
    @333adventures6 4 года назад

    Matt how do you find the Canyons 1 year on? how have you found it compares to the Rigg Gear?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      I prefer the Canyon's over the Rigg saddlebags for a bunch of reasons. One, I like to be able to easily remove the bags from the bike. I don't care that it leaves the mounting plate. That doesn't bother me. Two, the open bottle holder compartment on the back of the bags is really useful adding functionality. Three, the nylon outer part of the bag is more abrasion resistant than the Riggs. Four, the Canyons have more space. With that said there are few things have came up since I have been using them. The inner backing plate to the bags has started to sag a bit allowing the bags to droop away from the bike. Its not much, but I notice it. I also had one of the nylon nut covers inside the bags come off and rub a hole through the inner dry bag. It was easily fixed. I have spent a lot of time offroad with these bags and have dropped the bike enough times to know these overall held up better than the Riggs did. I have seen some complaints about these bags that they don't hold up if you have an OFF at speed. I cant' speak to that. If I had to choose between the Canyons and the Riggs, even with the cost difference I would take the Canyons. Overall I think the Canyons are a more useful and functional option. I hope this helps. Cheers.

  • @khairirais
    @khairirais 3 года назад

    If the base plate is a universal fit, can it mount on a touratech panniers rack? Any idea?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад +1

      I am pretty sure you can get the mounting plate to mount to touratech racks as long they dont have an exhaust offset like you will find on BMW GS bikes. You have to have a flush mount.

  • @safdarlodi
    @safdarlodi 3 года назад

    Do u have a fuel tank attached to your bike (behind rear seat)?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      Yes, I did, I had a rotopax mounted to my rear rack, never needed it.

    • @safdarlodi
      @safdarlodi 3 года назад +1

      @@advmatt thanks

  • @MEEM909
    @MEEM909 2 года назад

    What is mount plate do u use ( nylon) I can't find it?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  2 года назад

      The bags come with a the nylon backing plate when you order them. If you purchase them used you might not receive them and will need to talk to an authorized dealer to get a set ordered.

  • @bonesworld7178
    @bonesworld7178 5 лет назад

    Hey Matt. Who is the amazon seller that you got a good deal from? I can’t find them from anyone around what you paid. Thanks chris

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      The seller was Classic Cycle Parts. The bags would go on sale every four or five days for about 24 hours. I watched them do this for several weeks before deciding to buy.

  • @darkwhorse
    @darkwhorse 5 лет назад

    Dude. Awesome bags. Will these fit a 2018 Bonneville?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      These bags are fairly universal, but your need side racks to mount them. If you have racks on your bike you should be able to fit them.

  • @IvoRaptor
    @IvoRaptor 4 года назад

    Can you tell me if they stay the same size on both sides of the bike? Or if one size sticks more outside than the other?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      Same size. Depends on your rack, if it is symmetric.

    • @IvoRaptor
      @IvoRaptor 4 года назад

      @@advmatt i would go for the Givi Rack

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      It will be symmetrical on both sides

    • @IvoRaptor
      @IvoRaptor 4 года назад

      @@advmatt thanks, by the way what is your bikes rack ?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад

      I have a Tusk rack only available from Rocky Mountain ATV and Motorcycle. It is their house brand. It was more cost effective.

  • @nigelspoljaric8363
    @nigelspoljaric8363 3 года назад

    Fitted these yesterday is your lock stiff?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      Yes, it was initially. As I used the bags and took them on and off it got a bit easier. I also found if the mounting plate is twisted or warped from installing it the lock is really tight. I had to adjust the mounts on one side to keep the mounting plate flat. Then everything worked well.

  • @davidmacmaster1215
    @davidmacmaster1215 3 года назад

    Do the bags interfere with passenger legs?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      Nope. Passenger wont have any trouble as long as the mounting plate sits back far enough.

  • @FanOWater
    @FanOWater 5 лет назад

    Very cool system. Do you know what they weigh? Cheers

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +2

      That was a great question so I went to the garage and weighed one of the bags. It was 7.2lbs. I think the entire system, both bags, mounting plates and hardware will come in around 20lbs plus or minus a bit.

    • @FanOWater
      @FanOWater 5 лет назад

      @@advmatt Thanks for the speedy response Matt. Enjoy!

    • @AceCarleton
      @AceCarleton 5 лет назад

      You are the first person in the world to weigh these bags. Thanks so much. Very useful.
      I did go with the BC35S from mosko moto and they are about the same weight.
      The BC35s are much more money but the warranty and durability sold me

  • @kkhalifah1019
    @kkhalifah1019 3 года назад

    How much does the pannier + hardware weigh?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      Approximately 10 pounds.

  • @martincazares1034
    @martincazares1034 5 лет назад

    How did you put the roto-pak in there? I will like to know

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +1

      The mounting plate for bags has channels in it. I use two spacers on the inside, ran bolts through them with aluminum strapping between the bolts. I mounted the rotopax mounting plate to the aluminum strapping. I will do a quick video to show it in the next few weeks.

    • @florianalexander9183
      @florianalexander9183 4 года назад +1

      I would like to see the video about the rotopax as well.

  • @VasilHristovpanteravh
    @VasilHristovpanteravh 4 года назад

    Hi...What kind or rack is this on the bike

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      It is a Tusk rack. I bought it from Rocky Mountain ATV/Motorcycles located in Utah.

  • @nigelspoljaric8363
    @nigelspoljaric8363 4 года назад

    Hi How are the bags holding up?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +2

      Overall pretty well. The bags have hit the dirt a few times, slow speed, with no issues. On the inside mounting plate a plastic cover came off one of the bolts and rubbed through the inner dry bag. It was easy to fix. The bags have a steel backer plater that has started sagging a bit at the top corners. Not too bad, but noticable. I am still happy with the bags. They have served me well for the kind of riding and travel I do.

  • @SuperLamoto
    @SuperLamoto 4 года назад +1

    The problem is that the bag can not be close whit a padlock 🙄

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      There are some cable locking strap options but nothing easy to use.

  • @Silentethief
    @Silentethief 2 года назад

    What rear rack are you running?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  2 года назад

      Givi tail rack. It is lowered to match the one piece seat.

    • @Silentethief
      @Silentethief 2 года назад

      @@advmatt ah interesting - do you have the part number? Thought it was an altrider one at first due to the shape and lack of monokey mounting pegs.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  2 года назад +1

      @@Silentethief you are right, it is the Alt Rider tail rack. This bike is in storage and I cant get to it now to check.

    • @Silentethief
      @Silentethief 2 года назад +1

      @@advmatt no worries thanks for confirming!

  • @atprodT700
    @atprodT700 5 лет назад

    Salut est ce que tu peux m' indiquer le poids des sacoches?
    Merci

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +1

      Un sac sans plaque de montage pose 3,2kg.

  • @MrArunsikri
    @MrArunsikri 5 лет назад

    Dude are they strong enough like moskomoto?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +1

      I have never used Mosko Moto bags so I can't do a fair comparison. I think the bags are similar in design. I also haven't had any hard crashes with these bags to really test out their durability, if that is what you asking about. I have been able to keep the bike upright so far this year.

    • @MrArunsikri
      @MrArunsikri 5 лет назад

      What’s the review of these bags after using these for ride?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      @@MrArunsikri I like the bags a lot. I take them on and of all the time, which is really easy. The roll top works well, but the side buckles tend to twist a bit once strapped down. The waterproofing has been tested numerous times and has passed. I like the big pouch at the back, it makes for convenient storage. So far I wouldn't hesitate to buy these again. I haven't tested if they would hold up to a hard crash. I try not to do that. Hope this helps.

  • @JorgeMoya
    @JorgeMoya 5 лет назад

    Do you think they will interfere with a Givi 52 outback top box? I already got the 709s (used on a different bike) but looking to use in my GSA.

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад +1

      I am not sure, it might depend on the luggage rack. I just measured my bags, which aren't currently loaded for a trip, and there is 24 inches between them. My dry bag sits on the tail rack fine. Hope this helps.

  • @ajinkyachavan5743
    @ajinkyachavan5743 2 года назад

    Is anyone using this on tiger 1200

  • @scottyrenders8989
    @scottyrenders8989 4 года назад

    Rotopax mount?

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  4 года назад +1

      I will get a short video put together showing the mount. It might take a few weeks. But, yes, a Rotopax mount.

  • @Motodronebr
    @Motodronebr Год назад +1

    Don’t think so ! In my opinion kriega is much better and safe

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I agree. I did a follow up video two years later. These bags did not hold up. After two years of use I did not like them.

    • @Motodronebr
      @Motodronebr Год назад +1

      @@advmatt I got ya . Kriega gives you 10 years warranty, but we also have lone rider that is manufactured in china if I’m not sure they give you only 2yrs warranty but they are overprice and can’t beat kriega at all. Ride safe mate your footages are really good ! Keep it up

  • @AurelienL92
    @AurelienL92 5 лет назад

    Warning, they are fragile, a single 3-day outing and some reinforcements pierce the fabric

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      I have read that in a few places. So far I haven't had any issues but the bike has been upright all year so these bags haven't really been tested.

    • @AurelienL92
      @AurelienL92 5 лет назад

      @@advmatt i can send you some pics. the worst is that GIVI refuse the guarantee for... bad usage

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  5 лет назад

      @@AurelienL92 I have seen a few pictures of these bags coming apart at the seems in minor tip overs. I am having difficulty getting in contact with Givi to ask some questions. Not happy about it. I will take these bags as far as I can. I hope you get something worked out.

  • @e2environnement840
    @e2environnement840 3 года назад

    no price? just advertising

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  3 года назад

      I paid $525, check out my updated video for this luggage from two months ago, much different story

  • @maheshjava948
    @maheshjava948 2 года назад +1

    Frankly these bags are a disappointment. The warrent basicly covers nothing and the bags will disintigrate in no time. best spend your money else where. kriega and mosko moto will be the best

    • @advmatt
      @advmatt  10 месяцев назад

      I did a review video of these bags. I was not pleased with them in the end.