Ep. 345 - The Best Advertisement for Atheism | Fireside Chat
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- When religious people mistreat others, they give a bad name to religion and turn many people off faith altogether. What does God value most: belief, good works, or something else? Dennis explores scriptures from both the Old and New Testaments to reveal what God truly desires from us.
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so the best advertisement for atheism is to make us go somewhere else to see the answer to the title of the video? got it
Another great advertisement for athiesm/secularism is censorship for those who can't handle the truth. Get a clue.
Profound censorship has cast the truth from this arena. Many have been evicted, many more are leaving voluntarily.
Best advertisement for atheism is a unrestricted visit to china 🇨🇳 😁
It wouldn't surprise me if their site also doesn't allow people to comment or their content...
The censorship won’t allow it here. Already blocked me trying to answer your question once.
4:30 can’t be bothered to check the quote? Fine, I’ll do it. Here it is: “There is no God, but don't tell that to my servant, lest he murder me at night”. And it’s a fake quote. Voltaire never said that. Dennis, you have totally messed up. Next time when you’re trying to quote someone don’t be so lazy, please.
The best advert for atheism is religion
Truth.
Again, the best advertisement for atheism is logic, reason, and science. Not bad religious people. To say that bad religious people are the cause is to not understand atheists.
Exactly.
That is why I became a Christian: logic, reason, and science. Where do moral laws come from or the category we call beauty or the incredible fine-tuning of the universe? Or the dual nature of human beings: angelic but also worse than beasts - why is that? Or where does the mind and consciousness come from? Yes, I used all of the above to begin my search for truth. And came to Christ. Thank you for reminding me of the foundations of my search.
@@michaelbabbitt3837 With all due respect. You are speaking nonsense. Everything you said is wrong. You are using an argument from ignorance. “I don’t know therefore god.” It’s the famous god of the gaps fallacy. Just because you don’t know doesn’t mean you can assert what you want to believe. And why believe in your god. All those arguments you just made could be used to support any other god. I could say “oh the universe is fine tuned therefore Allah is real, or Zeus, etc.” But everything you said is wrong. The universe is not fine tuned. It arises from natural law. Science does not require gods. In fact it rules it out as a rational concept. Lastly, morality comes from nature as well, particular physics. Evolution to be more specific. But regardless, morality cannot come from any religion. No religion reproduces what we view to be moral today. You cannot have any objective moral standard from religion. Because it would be entirely subjective on what that deity (or deities) desired.
@@KidCity1985 Thanks!
@maxwell8758 , you know all modern science began in medieval and Renaissance monasteries right?
The best way to become an atheist is to read the Bible all through
100%. Former Christian here. Once you understand the Bible, once you read it, once you study the history in depth, you will become an Atheist.
Nah.
@@sandels5805 great argument
Unfortunately, it took me reading the entire Bible 9 times before I came to my rational senses.
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Bad religious people certainly don't help, and it's easy to see how being able to convince others that you are a "person of God" would really appeal to people who are in reality, whether overtly or covertly, very selfish, or even evil in nature. And being able to dismiss anything they do by saying they're "forgiven", or that "Only God can judge me!" But I've just never seen the appeal in being religious, and the stories are absurd. I don't believe a genuinely good person would be fundamentally less good without a religious motive to be that good person. And I've never had any "creator of the universe" tell me how I should behave or worship them, it's only ever been other, often unremarkable people saying it.
The pro abortion christians have always baffled me.
You can't be both Christian & pro-abortion. It's like having dry water.
That's an oxymoron.
@@vansays2236 you cant be a Christian if the religion is not true.
Why?
@@Oneironaut9 Yes you can, there are people that are both. Unless you fully commit to a "no true Scotchman" fallacy...
If you want to quote the bible…….”Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone.”
Mark 10:18
the god of the bible? The psycho who demanded slaughtering babies and raping women? You think that character is good?
The same god that endorses slavery in exodus 21? And Leviticus 25?
I saw Dennis at an Arby's and he ran behind the counter and dipped his balls in the soft serve ice cream machine while screaming at the top of his lungs about the importance of ethical monotheism. It was a trip man.
Religious people tend to be better? If you need the promise of reward for being humane or the threat of eternal torture then your "goodness" is insincere
With atheism there is not good, better, or evil!
@@litoaykiuincorrect. It's just that with atheism there isn't an imaginary figure to judge you and pass sentence. I don't need an enforcer too want to do the right thing. Maybe you do?
@@WeighedWilson Name an atheist country/society that is this shining example of human compassion and progress you speak of?
You sound ignorant of true Christianity and frankly, judgemental. If you think being a Christian is done out of fear or reward, you have certainly not spent any amount of real time in honest discussion with a Christian. Nor did you actually listen to the stats listed in the video. Christianity DOES make you a better human and an ignorant troll on yt doesn't change that fact.
@@SufficientBother you've got me there. Name a religeon that hasn't gone to war.
_"Why are there bad religious people"_ - for the same reason there are bad non-religious people. The real question is: "why are you surprised about that"?
_"I am talking about Jews and Christians"_ - why? Why leave out Moslims, Hindus, or any other religious people?
_"There is a third point..."_ - what is the third point?
_"We have the rest at our website"_ - Seriously? You are afraid to post on RUclips, because here people can actually give criticism on your videos? You'd rather exist in a bubble of ignorance?
As an atheist, you realize that if there is no god, you are free to do what you want. Therefore, you should also understand that it doesn't matter if someone believes in god or not, since everyone is free to believe what they want.
As a theist or monotheist, you understand that if there is a God, you are still free to do whatever you want. That's why you should also understand that there is a power that can judge you, otherwise people can think that they have the power to interfere in the act of divine creation and destroy it.
The question being asked is not whether there is a God or not but whether humanity will survive without him in its current state of awareness and in my opinion it will not. and how do i know that? It's simple, the history of humanity backs me up.
What you're really selling is the notion that you have freedom WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. As a practical matter, everyone knows that's simply not true, and it's one of the fatal flaws in an atheist world-view.
@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 unquestionably
You do realize that “if” is only revealed after death right? So as an atheist, you must accept gambling and luck.
@@Witcherworks Well, I know that God doesn't exist, but I phrase it that way to lay out the argument.
So basically this is a clickbait or bait-and-switch video intended as an advertisement for your own site. I guess PragerU cannot even be honest about the content of their own videos...
But let's address what was shared in this video.
"Data shows that religious people tend to be better" I am genuinely curious what data Dennis is referring to and by what standard he is measuring this. Because many studies I've seen came to the conclusion religiosity of people doesn't make them "better people".
For instance studies have shown that religious people generally lie just as much if not more than atheists do. And if you look at religiosity in prisons, atheism is (or at least used to be, it's been a while since I've checked) significantly less represented, while the percentage of religious people even increased.
Also if you compare crime rates of mostly secular or atheistic countries with countries that are mostly religious, most of the times the secular countries have significantly less crime.
Personally I don't think being an atheist makes you a better person, I rather think there are third factors that effect both (like wealth and education), but the same goes for being a theist.
Dennis states that religious people donate more to charity and volunteer more. But that isn't really surprising considering that many religions and churches expect or even demand that their members pay tithe to the church, which often is at least 10% of your income. So yes, in that sense religious people easily donate the most.
The same goes for the volunteering. Much of which is done either for or through the church. This doesn't mean it isn't great that they do this, but very often the goal of a lot of charity of the church is to benefit, advocate and promote their religion or church.
Dennis mentioned Voltaire was an atheist, but he really wasn't. Don't get me wrong, Voltaire was anti-religion and didn't believe in a God as most religions portrayed him, but he himself was more of a deist.
I think the quote Dennis refers to is "I want my lawyer, my tailor, my servants, even my wife to believe in God, because it means that I shall be cheated and robbed and cuckolded less often. … If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him". That or "There is no God, but don’t tell that to my servant, lest he murder me at night."
But I am genuinely curious whether behaving better out of fear of consequences makes somebody a "better person". If people are convinced they are being surveilled by the police, they generally behave better. So are people that are convinced of this "better people"?
In my opinion, if the only reason you behave in a certain way or refrain yourself from doing horrible things is the thought of being either punished or missing out on a reward, in my opinion you are not a better person.
Voltaire was not a rabid atheist......... He was a deist who believed God created the world but did not intervene in it. And Voltaire wrote Candide to ridicule the idea that God is somehow a source of consolation and hope in the face of terrible suffering.
But Denis, what does the Talmud teach jews about non-jews?
Religion is nothing more than mans interpretation of Scripture.... Religion doesn't make men better,,,, faith makes men better. There is a difference. You can be the most religious person , give tithe, volunteer to help people, preach the word ... however, it won't make you not corrupt if enmity is found in you.
Judaism is an ideology, not a religion. The Jews were already fully embracing the Ammonite god when Jesus was alive. One of the best quotes I heard was this.....
A man with a thousand demons recognized Jesus, but men with thousands of scriptures couldn't. If you did a proper chronological study, you would realize that the Jewish Talmud was nothing more than Philo Of Alexandria's attempt to twist the Hebrew Tanakh to fit Greek philosophy. The Christians were deceived by the Holy Roman Empire. While the "Jews" were perverting the scriptures with Greek agnostic philosophy, the Pagans were perverting scriptures with their paganism.
So I hope this is a fair enough answer. You can be religious all you want and perform all the works but works without faith is ☠️.
True freedom is being able to practice and live by whatever religion you want, even if that means no religion at all.
3:49 so where is that data, Dennis? Are you pulling it out of thin air again?
Why are people bad... well why did Cain kill Abel?
It was out of jealousy due to God wanting an offering of burnt flesh which Caine was unable to provide due to his tending of the crops. Caine should obviously not murdered his brother, but why was God so choosy over the sacrifice?
All the evidence points to people using religion as moral cover to commit evil they wouldn't get away with otherwise. The world would be a much much better place without religion.
"Good people will do good things. Bad people will do bad things. But for good people to do bad that, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
3rd, 13 June 2024
Thank you sir, nice that Snoopy is getting more camera time ❤ Salute from Holland 😊
One does not need works for salvation? Faith is all you need. One does Works because they have faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8,9.
The scripture faith without works is dead, is speaking to the Jewish people of that time, which was the Kingdom age. We are in the church age.
Salvation is through God’s Grace and our Faith in the shed Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Salvation from which peril?
@@Theo_Skeptomai The peril of hell.
No thank you
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Lots of Bots here today. God Bless!
Yeah you seem to be one of them!
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Prager United? Have you been forced to remove the title University?
It's fundraising. PragerU is still Prager University.
I can't speak for jews, but I believe you are conflating religious people with true christians. There is a very real difference, which is apparent in their actions.
Sounds like the no true Scotsman’s fallacy.
Who _exactly_ determines those who are "true Christians"?
@@Theo_Skeptomai You're giving too much power to people, and not enough to God. It's not a determination. It's only an observation. The New Testament is a good guideline for anyone who wants to be a Christian.
Choosing one religion is stating that all others are wrong. Why not add yours religion to that list, it's just one more? Anyone who thinks they know god's one and only true word has narrow thinking.
Time to grow up, sky daddy isn't real
Solid argument, bro.
There are many arguments for the existence of God. Some common arguments are the cosmological argument, fine tuning of the universe to trillions of a degree, hundreds of fine tuned parameters on earth for life to exist, a 3.5 billion character information code called DNA that just jumps into existence, the irreducible complexity of the cell, objective morality existing, immaterial realities existing like the laws of logic/reasoning capabilities/free will, the scientific facts in the Bible, the fulfillment of numerous biblical prophecies, the messianic prophecies being fulfilled especially Isaiah 53 which predicts Jesus 700 years before he came and Psalm 22 which predicts his crucifixion 1000 years before it happened. Isaiah 53 talks about a lowly servant of the Lord who will come to be beaten, whipped, pierced, then killed as a criminal for the sins of his people then buried in the grave of the rich, but will rise from the dead. This was predicted 700 years before Jesus was born. Psalm 22 which predicts Jesus’s crucifixion 1000 years before it happened including being nailed through the hands and feet. This is significant because this was predicted 700 years before crucifixion was invented by the Romans. We know these passages were written before Jesus since thanks to the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls we have copies of these passages that are older then Jesus himself. There is also the evidence for the resurrection which can be summarized in Gary Habermas’ four minimal facts argument
There are many arguments for the existence of God. Some common arguments are the cosmological argument, fine tuning of the universe to trillions of a degree, hundreds of fine tuned parameters on earth for life to exist, a 3.5 billion character information code called DNA that just jumps into existence, the irreducible complexity of the cell, objective morality existing, immaterial realities existing like the laws of logic/reasoning capabilities/free will, the scientific facts in the Bible, the fulfillment of numerous biblical prophecies, the messianic prophecies being fulfilled especially Isaiah 53 which predicts Jesus 700 years before he came and Psalm 22 which predicts his crucifixion 1000 years before it happened. Isaiah 53 talks about a lowly servant of the Lord who will come to be beaten, whipped, pierced, then killed as a criminal for the sins of his people then buried in the grave of the rich, but will rise from the dead. This was predicted 700 years before Jesus was born. Psalm 22 which predicts Jesus’s crucifixion 1000 years before it happened including being nailed through the hands and feet. This is significant because this was predicted 700 years before crucifixion was invented by the Romans. We know these passages were written before Jesus since thanks to the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls we have copies of these passages that are older then Jesus himself. There is also the evidence for the resurrection which can be summarized in Gary Habermas’ four minimal facts argument
There are many arguments for the existence of God. Some common arguments are the cosmological argument, fine tuning of the universe to trillions of a degree, hundreds of fine tuned parameters on earth for life to exist, a 3.5 billion character information code called DNA that just jumps into existence, the irreducible complexity of the cell, objective morality existing, immaterial realities existing like the laws of logic/reasoning capabilities/free will, the scientific facts in the Bible, the fulfillment of numerous biblical prophecies, the messianic prophecies being fulfilled especially Isaiah 53 which predicts Jesus 700 years before he came and Psalm 22 which predicts his crucifixion 1000 years before it happened. Isaiah 53 talks about a lowly servant of the Lord who will come to be beaten, whipped, pierced, then killed as a criminal for the sins of his people then buried in the grave of the rich, but will rise from the dead. This was predicted 700 years before Jesus was born. Psalm 22 which predicts Jesus’s crucifixion 1000 years before it happened including being nailed through the hands and feet. This is significant because this was predicted 700 years before crucifixion was invented by the Romans. We know these passages were written before Jesus since thanks to the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls we have copies of these passages that are older then Jesus himself. There is also the evidence for the resurrection which can be summarized in Gary Habermas’ four minimal facts argument
Teens discovering there's no God.
God is money, it's the first thing you mentioned in this video. Money is what you all worship.
Need a fartside shat YTP out of this
Just wondering when is homelander is coming out in this vids
The best advertisement for atheism is this guy. Anyone who believes this tripe is, at the very least, a non-Christian. This dude couldn't be further from jesus.
No worries, keep sending folks our way, we will rehabilitate them!
Your video title makes zero sense.
You stop being an atheist the moment you start believe in your self .
I don't agree I'm an atheist and I will always be an atheist.
Nah, atheists only believe in and worship themselves.
What?😂
That makes 0 sense. I don't see myself as a god, yet i believe i exist.
I am an atheist and believe in myself and my abilities. How's that?
Everyone would rather have a Christian as a neighbor than a Satanist or whatever... Voltaire had a point. Cheers from 🇧🇷
Do they? I haven't encountered many satanists, but if I understand it correctly, they are pretty big on respecting your fellow man and respecting each others freedoms and such.
I do however have much experience with Christians. And while most of them were lovely and genuinely great people, there have been pretty terrible ones to.
@brabbelbeest only a few is already too much. Besides, it's very convenient to claim that Satanism (and other ideologies that despise good morals and values)doesn't bother you from the security of your law and order country... come here to the third world where life isn't worth a penny, and you will scream for Jesus!
Santa was a good story but we all grow up
Voltaire also apparently said, "if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him."
Atheism doesn't work in the real world. The Soviet Union had atheism. Soviet citizens eventually just started worshipping Marx and Lenin instead of Christ, usually with little real understanding. This they called scientific atheism.
That's bull💩. Sweden is a atheist nation.
Atheism is a position. It can not be refuted. It would be like refuting poverty.
Atheism is the position of suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. It is natural, rational, and even prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones.
Do you agree?
Agreed, trying to enforce beliefs upon a population is bound to fail. But like the Soviets that blindly worshiped Marx and Lenin, so do most religious people in the world. They worship Jesus, the Quran, the Torah, God without really understanding it. They do it just because, and they like how they are, it gives them a sense of security and a well being, it helps you fall asleep at night, but they don't want to try to find out the truth. When people become atheists after reading the Bible or the Quran cover to cover, it's no coincidence. They are horrible books from our modern point of view. So if you want to believe that your god condoned slavery and women virgin unmarried women marrying their rapists, fine, but it would make many feel uncomfortable, and what many religious people who read it do is just to ignore the passage and focus about how Jesus said "may he who is without sin cast the first stone" (not knowing there is a strong case for this passage having being in later version of the Bible).
Treating people with patience and kindness when they don’t deserve it is difficult. Being honest with yourself and others is hard. Atheism is the easier path in life because you can live however you want.
Yeah, and your "Judeo-Christian Values" allow you to smear me as a follower of Hamas because I don´t like the massacres in Gaza. Dennis is not only wrong he is also not moral.
@@maxschreck4095 I noticed a number of your comments on this channel are quite harsh. Which was my point. When you don’t believe in God, you can treat people however you want and you couldn’t care less how it makes them feel.
When a person comes to God and receives forgiveness, the guilt and shame of their life washes away, and they feel free from hate and anger. The appropriate response is one of gratitude. As someone who is grateful for their forgiveness I am in no position to judge you. Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is a Christian. You can tell the real ones because they are trying their best to be kind to others. Not that it’s easy.
As for Israel and Palestine, I think those two peoples have a lot of hate for each other. And as you know, hate leads to the dark side and to violence. I don’t think there is anything wrong with supporting Palestine. I know they received several billions of dollars in aid to build their nation, but they used the money to build tunnels and stock pile weapons. I think they could have used their resources better. But, this what hate does to people.
@@sharpsbattle My comments might seem harsh but Prager U deserves the anger, they are a terrible organization and do everything in power to combat and mock the people I care about.
And how exactly can atheists "live how ever you want"? We live our lives according to the laws and our ethical conscience.
@@anthonymorris5084 Yeah you’re right, I didn’t word that very well. I just meant that Christians are held to a higher ethical standard than atheists because atheists can follow their own conscience whereas Christians follow God’s. At least in principle.
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