Is foreign aid from Western countries and China robbing Africa of its economic independence? Join the debate by telling us what you think about the topic. Just to remind you, this Street Debate was recorded before CoronaVirus forced many governments to impose social distancing. Thank you @Muchie for reminding us of this.
SO CALL NGO THEY'RE GROPE OF PEOPLE WHO COMING TO AFRICAN US FOREIGN AID BUT THEY HAVE AGENDA IS TO VACATIONS BLACK PEOPLE AND VACCINATIONS WILL KILLING MANY OF AFRICAN IF WE ARE NOT CAREFULLY THAT'S THEIR AGENDA.
@@DWThe77Percent everything about African we don't need foreign aid and white people and Chinese they're not good people for we us African over 400years we can't continue with this.. they should living are soon possible. Thank you.
In the past our chiefs sold africans into slavery Today our presidents are selling the land and minerals for a penny and go out begging!!!!! 50 years of begging,so we are addicted to begging Imagine a country like Congo of Mobutu, begging until they beg the UN militaries good for fighting locusts than milices!!!!?!?? Africans,now with a vast land ,we are buying weapons than agriculture machine!!!! Shame on Africans
Totally wrong. Foreign investment is an amazing thing for a developing nation, inward oriented economic policy over foreign investment is a recipe for disaster. Create a stable economy, then legislate away the foreigners.
That woman ay 0:30 is spot on! Willie lynch syndrome is real. Only We as a Whole can fight and overcome this. This part of history wont repeat itself. If We as Africans from ALL walks of life come together We CAN BE UNSTOPPABLE. AFRICA FOR AFRICANS.
I don't like the way the interview has been ended, and the conclusion that was made at the end. This topic is a very deep one, and cannot and should not be treated so lightly and so casually and left hanging there in the middle of nowhere, with no real idea or perception on how one should confront this situation that Africa is in.
13:10 If they would elect people like her to be their leaders,then Africa will be in good hands. If more Africans can adopt her view then Africa will become a massive force to be reckoned with!!!
The trouble with us is we do not know our history which is we do not know our ancestors. I am Canadian born but I meet Black people who grow up in mostly black community who put me down for growing up in white town but when I mention our African ancestry they rejected it. Even meet some from Jamaica other Caribbean's who say there are not Africans.
Because they have no knowledge of Africa or what part their ancestors came from. I don't say I'm African American, I'm a American who happens to be black.
Africans have benefited greatly from others, who have invested in Africa, just look at south Africa! Whites have modernized that part of the land, and Africans have benefited from that. Yes I agree that Africa has most of the resources, but if you have it, and don't do nothing with it, someone is going to come in and take it.
You're still in a cocoon. Who are the beneficiaries of that developed land??Majority of Blacks in South Africa swim in a White made pool of poverty. Renting a flat in JHB, PTA or Cape town doesn't mean you're free. Yes they own their Properties. But what about your fellow Africans who live in Alexander, Diepsloot, Lusaka, Khayelitsha, Gugulethu, Cape flats and Marikana???
We know the problem, now how do we enact the solution? These corrupt leaders must be sacked in order for Africa to prosper. The people must also wake up and realize who the neocolonialists are, namely the Chinese, but additionally Europeans. I long for the day when I will see a free Africa.
Africans should never forget about their history, what this colonizers have done to Africans, they should not forget about, the continent of Africa was devided by colonies so that ,they can use it as a hunting ground this is today still Africa is in war and this is why Africa is still poor
Yes, you have to do it yourself, you are like a child if you are dependent. Becoming an adult means talking responsibility for your life, your family, your community, your country. It requires thinking ahead and self-control. Using your head not your emotions. It will take longer but then it's yours and you can be proud. It took the colonizers 6,000 years to get to where they were when they colonized Africa. So it doesn't happen quickly.
How sad u gathered so many so-called established ppls in many aspect to talk about the problem, yet none have a clue what really have gone wrong for more than half a century. Only stayed to try and argue some shallow issues taught by whiteman system. U all get no where
We Afrikans are only good when it comes to speaking English, other than that, we are nothing. Afrika is the richest continent on the planet, yet its people are the poorest, ask yourself why?
It's a systemic thing, getting Europeans or any new colonizer out not gonna be possible and not that easy,the structures has been built for centuries,even revolution not gonna get us out because they (Europeans) has master how to divides and conquer Africa they knew about our diversity, tribes different and culture, they've done a lot of study about African local political systems,they know how to control the African mind,we're in for it forever.
I find it hypocritical to blame all of Europe (50+) countries for the actions of 13 or less that actually had colonies and colonial empires. Not only that, but a lot of cental and eastern countries have suffered themselves tremendously under invading empires. To have the people getting interviewed throw around generalist terms like "white people" or Europeans tells me that they aren't interested in having an honest and fair discussion, they just want someone to blame for the failure of their government and communities. One thing I am absolutely sure of, is that a better future for everyone wonbe built on changing perceived double standards with different ones. Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Excellent point and quite often forgotten. For example, Finland was colonized by the Swedes and Russians. During the Great Wrath (1714 - 1721), more women and children were enslaved in proportion to the population than in Africa. Not all white Europeans are colonizers.
Our problems should be solved by ourselves I mean Africans, we don't need any help from western countries second we have in our continent what the west are crying for. 50%of the World natural resources are in Africa.
sky high you can’t solve problems in a country if you’ve bad leadership, corruption which are all led by the gvt unless if you have your own independent state breakaway from the main gvt
@@astroprotector With due respect I disagree with your finding and figure 500...In west Afrcan University alone...we produce more than 100,000 graduate in engineering curses . But there's a lot of brain drain because of failure from our leaders in Afrcan country not creating Jobs, all they know is looting money to abroad for their selfish motive. And most of Afrcan brothers in diaporal were doing well. We need to unite African countries for a better greater coming generation.
I'm Kenyan and I can say that we need to stop blaming the west for Everything that happens in the international market. When we complain that our coffee is not getting enough value in the international market ...well have we tried value addition on that coffee? Or are we just exporting roast beans????? I would like to imagine a conversation whereby you tell the German investor to pay more for that coffee just because...If he's a charity organization he might agree but a savy businessman will just go and buy his coffee somewhere else,however if we ground that coffee ,processed it or whatever process we do for value addition the negotiations are much better...good business is only done when you consider each other's mutual interests.
Religion is the least factor in African problems. The enemy is European union and USA. They have been working tirelessly for decades to ensure that Africa remains their slave for good. There's enough proof to testify that.
Enough of the complaints and victim mindset, what's important are the actions we take to redeem ourselves and ensure that never again will we allow anyone take us for granted...
I agree with that guy to a certain extent, we spend so much time analysing the problem and feeling sorry for ourselves, but the truth is we were not the only ones colonized, however some nations have managed to build their economy post their hardships.
I do too. African and African-Americans have a victim mentality and it isn't helping us move forward. Say, OK, this happened. But now how can we take advantage of certain situations. Look at how to do so and do it. That's what the Asians did.
It’s hard saying that. These people standing there are at least middle class, most people in Aftica aren’t. Neocolonialism relies on impoverishing the general population, because a poor person doesn’t have enough time to ponder about politics
If you cannot understand white Europeans minds .That they don't care and can make you feel like we are the problem .The enslavers are all good please go live with Europeans and see how they love you back.
Tony is spot on, we need to stop this blaming culture, look to ourselves and be the drivers of our success. Blaming others is just a easy way to ignore the elephant in the room!
But first they must get out,consider our loans reparations and mind their own bussiness in their countries. Quit poking us wind needles and using us as a biological warfare lab rats,enough!
Tony is delusional. You never give in and except being colonized. You let that realization strengthen you and then channel that anger, let it reinforce and guide your passion for change. Not hold it's hand smiling. Like the lady said!! It's not about the individual, it's about everyone. In any struggle the weak will have to be separated.
Those will be the people seeking assylum when kenyans take back their country. Are you kenyan or are you Chinese? A question Kenyans should use to sift their leaders.
Africans are capable, but are limited by their dependence on others to do everything for them. If Africans, decide to create their own solutions and strive for excellence, everything will work out.
“How Europe Underdeveloped Africa” - Walter Rodney, should be made a required read in all African schools. Economic aid only breeds dependency on the entity providing the aid. African leaders have long taken aid and avoided putting in the hard work it takes to develop. Some politicians come into office, do very little work and live lavishly; while allowing the exploitation of their own countries.
Very interesting debate, the level of intelligence, awareness, consciousness and above all the willingness for us Africans to start taking our Continent issues into our own hands is really impressive. I'm so glad seeing my fellow Africans brothers and sisters across the Continent leading the revolution, with this trend we'll surely reach there.
Kenya. I repeat Kenya. U guys are well schooled. With the few I heard here, I have to say Kenyans are very good in grammar. The interviewer is very very good in English and the use of context. I hold all of u in high esteem.
I agree with you absolutely. Am a Ghanaian and the intellectuals and intelligence as well as enlightenment am seeing here would be lacking in Ghana because the Ghanaian education unfortunately is no more fit for purpose.
One thing I want to say is about this Tony guy. Tony you're a BIG, STUPID AR*S H** L FOR SAYING HE IS HAPPY TO BE COLONIZE, THAT IS THE MINDSET OF SOME AFRICAN PEOPLE. Go and hide in the cave with you fake Rasta.
Sub saharan Africa lacks visionary and foresighted leaders like the ones you find in Asia, Europe, Americas and other parts of the world. Sub saharan Africa makes 12% of the world population but only just above 2% of world economy, despite all natural resources. It Will be hard for Africans to earn any respect from anyone with such extreme image of poverty.
@qwecy I was talking about the region sub sahara Africa , that there is no need for it to be poor with all those natural resources and fertile land and good climate, east Asia regions or middle East or anywhere on the planet have little to nothing of all that but they outshine Africa development wise.
Honestly, I understand about losing a victim mentality. Doesn't make me like or appreciate or excuse British violating African people and others they've colonized. I think countries like Singapore did the right thing. They were ultra-disciplined and made themselves into economic powers. Africa needs an economic power that is not South Africa. Rwanda is trying to get there but I don't think they're big enough.
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I love this reporter's energy, and the fact that she disclosed that she was now with German owned media - I love her format of trying to give people and opportunity to speak, and I love her "Donahue" format of going from person to person. One of the respondents, Tony, the guy with the blond dreds is getting on my nerves - he's clearly delusional - he is so brainwashed, I fear the hair color has penetrated his brains. I think she should and could have developed the Chinese invasion and abuse of Kenya a lot more deeply - but it appeared as though every time it was brought up she pulled the mike away much too soon. I truly hope Kenya is now ready to resolve the Neo-colonial invasion of China and the re-invasion of eruope - it's time to bite the bullet and kick them all out, and go solo - I.e. without depending on the white uberstructure. Stay Blessed & ECLECTICALLY BLACK - Gloria Dulan-Wilson
I'm just going to leave this here, if a stranger come to your house and walk in and take something and leave that means he or she is a thief but if you invited them in under the name of investors and then they starts to take all the good that you have who is to be blame, reminisce on on that
I don't think colonization is the problem of Africa, the real problem of Africans lie within them, talk about the political system, economic system, people's mindset and way of life. Don't forget other countries were equally colonized and they're doing quite good, take Asia for example, a lot of countries are doimg well within the Asia region and they're colonized countries. It is high time for Africa to stop playing game and face the reality this is the only way the region can survive and build a meaningful development for the future generations.
You're right. Time to move. Asia reverse engineered. Bring in the Chinese. Take a look at all their technology, make your own version, sell it at a lower price. That's how China got where they are. They took American, European, Japanese technology apart and now they make their own version of it. Once we have the technology, then we can make our own better technology. Kenyans, Ghanaians, Nigerians, and other people of Africa are making technology out of nothing. Imagine what they can do with better technology.
The problem started during the slave trade when Africa began to selling their people for good and products. As time went on more African people were being shipped, the weaker Africa became. This allowed other countries to come in and take land position. And whatever goods they traded for, they did not use it to educate or built up theirs countries.
First of all, WESTERN FOREIGN AID to AFRICA 🌍, is just a MYTH... I witnessed this when I was younger, you ask the WESTERNERS a help of building a local Hospital and train the nurses and Cadres to operate it, instead of doing it, they show up with 10 Flat TV'S purchased from abroad, not even locally. And they tell you to sign for the delivery, later they make a report that a certain Town in any Country received 1 million$ in Aid...😂
Absolutely on point, I gave courage to my niece to embrace Education very dearly, today she's a Librarian in Oprah Winfrey leadership academy right here in South Africa. I am proud of her.
Africa has been on foreign aid longer than most Canadian/British taxpayers have been born. This while exsoldiers and the mentality handicapped live, sleep and die on the bitterly cold streets of Canada. Our Canadian politicians and bureaucrats on their way to work, stepped over the homeless. Let that sink in. Why? Enquiring minds need to know.
Collaboration is only mutually beneficial when you collaborate as equals. Elsewise it is just exploitation. Kenya has only had 57 years of independence. It took the US from 1776 to 1859 to stop deciding political office by way of duel. That's 83 years, in a country where the people decided their own borders. Kenya's growth is going to take time. It is not going to be instant. This isn't a matter of blame, this is a matter of understanding and context. From where Kenya has started, it's growth is tremendous. Keep going and be proud of your accomplishments.
Afrika is the richest continent on the planet, yets its people are the poorest in the world. Our youths are unemployed, non-healthcare system, poor deplorable roads, etc. Why?, Why??, Why???.
Oh Yeah I’m black Kenyan but I will agree with Tony big time, like literally we are against the colonial era and neocolonial era yet we can’t address and articulate our issues in Swahili 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
🤷well africans ???? Sort your country out then?? You talk a lot about not wanting foreign investments?? Stop the investments, and sort your country out, employ your people, house your people, etc etc .....less of the chit, chat.
I think when it comes to development and growth we are taking the easy way out. We don't invest in our people to promote economic growth and development.
Me thinks ending the use of the word NeoColonialism please. Why not fit Coaching and Collaboration from a trustworthy Economic Partner to build a better, if not best workable model to build wealth and strength for your country. Nation building is a long process. It builds confidence and strength in your hearts and minds to build a country you want to be proud of.
Foreign aid is a new form of colonization and I blame it on our poor governance .Africa needs a second independence ,from our colonizers and from our AFRICAN leaders .However ,we also need to refrain from the victim mentality . We can not wait for the world to be equal inorder for us to be seen ,to be heard and to apply change on the continent . We are a new breed of Africans , more informed ,more conscious and educated. What is stopping us from implementing change ? It is ourselves who can bring forth change and not our leaders. We need to stop the blaming game. All we know is to blame and to fight behind our phone screens,tweeting ,posting on our instagram and whatsapp stories but no action. All talk ...talk...talk..blaming...blaming ...blaming....Wake up africa !!!!!!!!!! ( Follow me on instagram at kuhle_ngubane)
I am polish we were under rusian occupation obout 50 years. We are building again own country and don't think all time that we were under occupation .stop think about past think about future get out corrupted politicians and build your country .hate will not help you .
Dw why didn't you invite an economist in this conversation..clearly an expert in economics would interpret the economic benefits that Africa has gained and the disadvantages in a more informed manner
One statement stood out most to me... “we shouldn’t be concerned our countries (home and diaspora) are good tourists destinations and build for them....but be more concerned with feeding ourselves”.
These conversations are good. And much as we may dislike it, we have to accommodate all the different views and opinions. BUT!!!!!!! Enough talk! Time to shift focus. All Africans MUST wake up!! PLO Lumumba said it. In 25 years we will be right back to where we crawled out of. We are so far behind and need to catch up by any means necessary. And by that I mean we must put our differences aside - this tribal bla bla - and focus on moving forward. We can do it! The black race has spent enough time talking about this. It’s time for action. Otherwise our Lord Jesus will come back and find us having these same conversations 🙄
Any investment funding comes with more than interest. The more you take/borrow the higher their stakes . That’s part of any nation climbing up the ladder .
We can speak about neo-colonialism 24/7 and the need to emancipate our minds but when you have grown and matured men with their hair dyed blonde and weaves also dyed blonde then there is a problem - a serious problem. These are black men who do not know what example they are setting. The same for black women.
Political system in Africa stinks,it makes me want to vomit. There is no sense of direction.How can a continent with vast arable land and rivers still import food... that's pathetic.
This is not a victim mentality, this is simply stating historical facts! You cannot compromise historical facts for thinking that you might look as a "victim", which itself is not far from the truth. Africa as a whole is indeed a victim in this neocolonial structure, it's just the truth! Is Africa exploiting Europe and its military and its politics? Or is it Europe that is doing that to Africa? There is your answer! And so we are talking about a centuries old problem, and about ways to solve it, and we cannot address any problem by denying or overlooking where the harm has been, and is still being, done! This has NOTHING to do with having a victim mentality! I hate how some people look so smart in how they dress and talk, but their reasoning is shit!
I am a year late commenting on the topic 🤣. But what a great debate 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. Africa you are ready!!. Africa you have always been ready. So much talent and education. So many of you understand and actually know what needs to be done. Africa you are ready to take full control of your countries and the prosperous future of the next generation.
DW is a German public international broadcaster, that has the audacity to ask us if Africa is being robbed of its economical freedom When you are robbing Africa of it's broadcast freedom. WHY is it that Africans cant help themselves come on Africa the world needs us we dont need the world ask yourself not, what can AFRICA do for me but what can I do for AFRICA @the77percent go and find a African network other than that good job 🦁👋🏽
Is foreign aid from Western countries and China robbing Africa of its economic independence? Join the debate by telling us what you think about the topic. Just to remind you, this Street Debate was recorded before CoronaVirus forced many governments to impose social distancing. Thank you @Muchie for reminding us of this.
SO CALL NGO THEY'RE GROPE OF PEOPLE WHO COMING TO AFRICAN US FOREIGN AID BUT THEY HAVE AGENDA IS TO VACATIONS BLACK PEOPLE AND VACCINATIONS WILL KILLING MANY OF AFRICAN IF WE ARE NOT CAREFULLY THAT'S THEIR AGENDA.
@@childofzion9195 Are you talking about coronavirus vaccination?
@@DWThe77Percent everything about African we don't need foreign aid and white people and Chinese they're not good people for we us African over 400years we can't continue with this.. they should living are soon possible. Thank you.
this is interesting title specially France
Are unemployment benefits robbing people of their economic independence?
The title of the video shouldn't even be a question. Africa needs to put down land laws and limit foreigners Corporations.
In the past our chiefs sold africans into slavery
Today our presidents are selling the land and minerals for a penny
and go out begging!!!!!
50 years of begging,so we are addicted to begging
Imagine a country like Congo of Mobutu, begging until they beg the UN militaries good for fighting locusts than milices!!!!?!??
Africans,now with a vast land ,we are buying weapons than agriculture machine!!!!
Shame on Africans
Oh 0:19 Stockholm syndrome
And direct or indirect your a tool actually @2 mins wake tf up and if you argue this you are a tool too.
Frederick Bartholomew exactly lands for Africa’s
I was thinking the same?
Totally wrong. Foreign investment is an amazing thing for a developing nation, inward oriented economic policy over foreign investment is a recipe for disaster. Create a stable economy, then legislate away the foreigners.
History is not going to repeat itself, AFRIKANS MUST WAKE UP, this needs blood, sweat and tears.
We r ready for we know now that silence is not peace jst inner suffering.
Please never stop making content, you are powerful, young sista
Enough with the talking and start taking action
Yes please!
@@laonemaganu3514 Ain't No yes Please you too laone EVERYONE needs to rltake action removing the colonizers.
You are right
The people in power take no action therefore we must use discussion to raise awareness and pressure them
That woman ay 0:30 is spot on! Willie lynch syndrome is real. Only We as a Whole can fight and overcome this. This part of history wont repeat itself. If We as Africans from ALL walks of life come together We CAN BE UNSTOPPABLE. AFRICA FOR AFRICANS.
The answer is yes
Respect from the small island of Barbados 🇧🇧
4 years later and we are fighting for economic independence
This is wonderful. Sending my love from the states. 😇👍
When he talks coffee tourism and showing them how we do stuff. I ask Michael. Do they reciprocate?
As a ‘Black American’ I’m really encouraged and proud of how intelligent and beautiful my African cousin are in this video
I don't like the way the interview has been ended, and the conclusion that was made at the end. This topic is a very deep one, and cannot and should not be treated so lightly and so casually and left hanging there in the middle of nowhere, with no real idea or perception on how one should confront this situation that Africa is in.
Anyway it's look beautiful out there
She's really doing it for Africa Allah bless you sister and all Africa
Ameen. and it will be happen Africa will best continent in worldwide inshallallahu ❣💎✅🤝🏽
YES!!!
I wish my country was conolaized by Britain to this day.
13:10 If they would elect people like her to be their leaders,then Africa will be in good hands. If more Africans can adopt her view then Africa will become a massive force to be reckoned with!!!
Interesting conversation , but Keep it in English so English speaking Africans around the world can tune in and be part of your audience.
The trouble with us is we do not know our history which is we do not know our ancestors.
I am Canadian born but I meet Black people who grow up in mostly black community who put me down for growing up in white town but when I mention our African ancestry they rejected it. Even meet some from Jamaica other Caribbean's who say there are not Africans.
Because they have no knowledge of Africa or what part their ancestors came from. I don't say I'm African American, I'm a American who happens to be black.
Africans have benefited greatly from others, who have invested in Africa, just look at south Africa! Whites have modernized that part of the land, and Africans have benefited from that. Yes I agree that Africa has most of the resources, but if you have it, and don't do nothing with it, someone is going to come in and take it.
You're still in a cocoon. Who are the beneficiaries of that developed land??Majority of Blacks in South Africa swim in a White made pool of poverty. Renting a flat in JHB, PTA or Cape town doesn't mean you're free. Yes they own their Properties. But what about your fellow Africans who live in Alexander, Diepsloot, Lusaka, Khayelitsha, Gugulethu, Cape flats and Marikana???
Its not foreign aid
Yes she is a tool for neocolonialism... Every country gathers information on Africa!!!!
Nice debate 😎
@Amadu Shoe Shine: Many thanks, you can always be part of the debate by saying what you think about what is discussed.
Dude, nothing is colonialism, its development. Cars, Internet, Electricity, Wildlife reserves is development.
I like this program
We know the problem, now how do we enact the solution? These corrupt leaders must be sacked in order for Africa to prosper. The people must also wake up and realize who the neocolonialists are, namely the Chinese, but additionally Europeans. I long for the day when I will see a free Africa.
Colomism syndrome crying for loss or the oppresser or colonism being told what to do. Black man stand up for your africa and rise out of the ashes.
Somebody send this to them African leaders please! If they don’t show any empathy watching this then they shouldn’t be elected!
excuse and talk. The trade mark of Africa and Africans. We talk.....
Africans should never forget about their history, what this colonizers have done to Africans, they should not forget about, the continent of Africa was devided by colonies so that ,they can use it as a hunting ground this is today still Africa is in war and this is why Africa is still poor
These people are Western. This could be a debate in any left-wing Western university.
Yes, you have to do it yourself, you are like a child if you are dependent. Becoming an adult means talking responsibility for your life, your family, your community, your country. It requires thinking ahead and self-control. Using your head not your emotions. It will take longer but then it's yours and you can be proud. It took the colonizers 6,000 years to get to where they were when they colonized Africa. So it doesn't happen quickly.
How sad u gathered so many so-called established ppls in many aspect to talk about the problem, yet none have a clue what really have gone wrong for more than half a century. Only stayed to try and argue some shallow issues taught by whiteman system. U all get no where
Instead of being politically correct and trying to sound smart and looking for blame, kick them out and protect yourselves.
stevenmintz1 you are right, kick them out before it’s too late
We Afrikans are only good when it comes to speaking English, other than that, we are nothing. Afrika is the richest continent on the planet, yet its people are the poorest, ask yourself why?
Yes, starting immediately 👈
It's a systemic thing, getting Europeans or any new colonizer out not gonna be possible and not that easy,the structures has been built for centuries,even revolution not gonna get us out because they (Europeans) has master how to divides and conquer Africa they knew about our diversity, tribes different and culture, they've done a lot of study about African local political systems,they know how to control the African mind,we're in for it forever.
stevenmintz1 , as simple as ABC yet the BLACK MAN can’t see it, even wearing the biggest glasses - mere idiots🤥
Interesting brain storming and great journalism. You all did well in driving home your respective point of views ... bravo!
Now let's take some action on these idea and kick out the colonizers. Why are we so afraid of real independence.
@@MonDieuMaCauseMonEpee
as if we r afraid of too much happiness.
I find it hypocritical to blame all of Europe (50+) countries for the actions of 13 or less that actually had colonies and colonial empires.
Not only that, but a lot of cental and eastern countries have suffered themselves tremendously under invading empires.
To have the people getting interviewed throw around generalist terms like "white people" or Europeans tells me that they aren't interested in having an honest and fair discussion, they just want someone to blame for the failure of their government and communities.
One thing I am absolutely sure of, is that a better future for everyone wonbe built on changing perceived double standards with different ones.
Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Excellent point and quite often forgotten. For example, Finland was colonized by the Swedes and Russians. During the Great Wrath (1714 - 1721), more women and children were enslaved in proportion to the population than in Africa. Not all white Europeans are colonizers.
@@Jinppa lie's lies lies🤮🤑
@@alanwilliams1306 Your accusation is a lie.
Our problems should be solved by ourselves I mean Africans, we don't need any help from western countries second we have in our continent what the west are crying for. 50%of the World natural resources are in Africa.
sky high you can’t solve problems in a country if you’ve bad leadership, corruption which are all led by the gvt unless if you have your own independent state breakaway from the main gvt
@@astroprotector With due respect I disagree with your finding and figure 500...In west Afrcan University alone...we produce more than 100,000 graduate in engineering curses . But there's a lot of brain drain because of failure from our leaders in Afrcan country not creating Jobs, all they know is looting money to abroad for their selfish motive. And most of Afrcan brothers in diaporal were doing well. We need to unite African countries for a better greater coming generation.
@@danielbankole8865 these idiots dont kno what they talking about
@@african1 they are typical racists. Less than 500 engineers a year? I don't think so.
@@astroprotector why you always sounding like an idiot.
I'm Kenyan and I can say that we need to stop blaming the west for Everything that happens in the international market.
When we complain that our coffee is not getting enough value in the international market ...well have we tried value addition on that coffee? Or are we just exporting roast beans????? I would like to imagine a conversation whereby you tell the German investor to pay more for that coffee just because...If he's a charity organization he might agree but a savy businessman will just go and buy his coffee somewhere else,however if we ground that coffee ,processed it or whatever process we do for value addition the negotiations are much better...good business is only done when you consider each other's mutual interests.
If such challenges come we shouldn't complain of them but we must learn to overcome them inorder to become better than ever
AFRICAN NEED TO STEP UP , ACT, THIS IS NO MORE KENYANS, NIGERIAN, MALIAN, GUINEAN, SO ON... TIME FOR ACTION LESS TALK
Nah its the leaders and the cowardly backwards population who don't demand change.
Africa will be better when there’s no religion’ religion is our main problem
Religion is the least factor in African problems. The enemy is European union and USA. They have been working tirelessly for decades to ensure that Africa remains their slave for good. There's enough proof to testify that.
Enough of the complaints and victim mindset, what's important are the actions we take to redeem ourselves and ensure that never again will we allow anyone take us for granted...
you can start by voting Julius malema and economic freedom fighters
We cant get anywhere because we cant even agree on a common agenda
But we must press on there r more versions if all of us driven by the same dream real independence.
From what I hear more African Nations are starting to rely on there fellow people instead if foreigners
I agree with that guy to a certain extent, we spend so much time analysing the problem and feeling sorry for ourselves, but the truth is we were not the only ones colonized, however some nations have managed to build their economy post their hardships.
I do too. African and African-Americans have a victim mentality and it isn't helping us move forward. Say, OK, this happened. But now how can we take advantage of certain situations. Look at how to do so and do it. That's what the Asians did.
It’s hard saying that. These people standing there are at least middle class, most people in Aftica aren’t. Neocolonialism relies on impoverishing the general population, because a poor person doesn’t have enough time to ponder about politics
@@benjaminsmith2287 Speak for yourself, only the lazy ones have that victim mentality.
If you cannot understand white Europeans minds .That they don't care and can make you feel like we are the problem .The enslavers are all good please go live with Europeans and see how they love you back.
Tony is spot on, we need to stop this blaming culture, look to ourselves and be the drivers of our success. Blaming others is just a easy way to ignore the elephant in the room!
But first they must get out,consider our loans reparations and mind their own bussiness in their countries.
Quit poking us wind needles and using us as a biological warfare lab rats,enough!
@@sanctusignis9746 Loans reparations, what do you mean by that?
@@astroprotector you sound so stupid.
@@astroprotector You are an uneducated fool. Take a look at this and stop embarrassing yourself in public:
www.remixhistory.com/
First they need to leave us alone to determine our own destiny. This can only be achieved with responsible leaders.
Tony is delusional. You never give in and except being colonized. You let that realization strengthen you and then channel that anger, let it reinforce and guide your passion for change. Not hold it's hand smiling. Like the lady said!! It's not about the individual, it's about everyone. In any struggle the weak will have to be separated.
@T Kelly: Indeed!
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Those will be the people seeking assylum when kenyans take back their country.
Are you kenyan or are you Chinese? A question Kenyans should use to sift their leaders.
Tony is British,let him go, we want them to cut this shit out,enough!
@John Buffalo I am 97 You are an uneducated fool. Take a look at this and stop embarrassing yourself in public:
www.remixhistory.com/
Naw really...it does not take a rocket scientist to see that...we need to Unite
I wish Nigerians could have this conversations in Nigeria also
Nigeria is a zoo
Bright Osuji I see this comment often. What do you mean Nigeria is a Zoo?
Why go to Nigeria while they can find and assemble Nigerians anywhere
Africans are capable, but are limited by their dependence on others to do everything for them. If Africans, decide to create their own solutions and strive for excellence, everything will work out.
Be the parent, not the child. Africa is the child now.
“How Europe Underdeveloped Africa” - Walter Rodney, should be made a required read in all African schools. Economic aid only breeds dependency on the entity providing the aid. African leaders have long taken aid and avoided putting in the hard work it takes to develop. Some politicians come into office, do very little work and live lavishly; while allowing the exploitation of their own countries.
Aid is never given or used for development its fat change fir their puppets.
Read also dead Aid by Zambian professor.
Underdeveloped? Excuse me, can you tell me what kind of place it was pre colonnial powers?
stop talking and talking without no actions i am tired of Africans we know what is happening what is this for now ?
Very interesting debate, the level of intelligence, awareness, consciousness and above all the willingness for us Africans to start taking our Continent issues into our own hands is really impressive. I'm so glad seeing my fellow Africans brothers and sisters across the Continent leading the revolution, with this trend we'll surely reach there.
Kenya. I repeat Kenya. U guys are well schooled. With the few I heard here, I have to say Kenyans are very good in grammar. The interviewer is very very good in English and the use of context. I hold all of u in high esteem.
I agree with you absolutely. Am a Ghanaian and the intellectuals and intelligence as well as enlightenment am seeing here would be lacking in Ghana because the Ghanaian education unfortunately is no more fit for purpose.
One thing I want to say is about this Tony guy. Tony you're a BIG, STUPID AR*S H** L FOR SAYING HE IS HAPPY TO BE COLONIZE, THAT IS THE MINDSET OF SOME AFRICAN PEOPLE. Go and hide in the cave with you fake Rasta.
Sub saharan Africa lacks visionary and foresighted leaders like the ones you find in Asia, Europe, Americas and other parts of the world. Sub saharan Africa makes 12% of the world population but only just above 2% of world economy, despite all natural resources. It Will be hard for Africans to earn any respect from anyone with such extreme image of poverty.
@qwecy there is a difference btwn Africa and Sub saharan Africa
@qwecy I was talking about the region sub sahara Africa , that there is no need for it to be poor with all those natural resources and fertile land and good climate, east Asia regions or middle East or anywhere on the planet have little to nothing of all that but they outshine Africa development wise.
Honestly, I understand about losing a victim mentality. Doesn't make me like or appreciate or excuse British violating African people and others they've colonized. I think countries like Singapore did the right thing. They were ultra-disciplined and made themselves into economic powers. Africa needs an economic power that is not South Africa. Rwanda is trying to get there but I don't think they're big enough.
🥰🤗As Ethiopian, I am very proud watching these butiful African Millennials with fresh mind based on the wise africans. I love these brain storming uniqueness each individuals expressing to contribute while absorbing the pure African sun vitamin D😊. The interviewer open ended question is very encouraging !! Thank you for uploading the video!🥰
I love this reporter's energy, and the fact that she disclosed that she was now with German owned media - I love her format of trying to give people and opportunity to speak, and I love her "Donahue" format of going from person to person. One of the respondents, Tony, the guy with the blond dreds is getting on my nerves - he's clearly delusional - he is so brainwashed, I fear the hair color has penetrated his brains. I think she should and could have developed the Chinese invasion and abuse of Kenya a lot more deeply - but it appeared as though every time it was brought up she pulled the mike away much too soon. I truly hope Kenya is now ready to resolve the Neo-colonial invasion of China and the re-invasion of eruope - it's time to bite the bullet and kick them all out, and go solo - I.e. without depending on the white uberstructure. Stay Blessed & ECLECTICALLY BLACK - Gloria Dulan-Wilson
I'm just going to leave this here, if a stranger come to your house and walk in and take something and leave that means he or she is a thief but if you invited them in under the name of investors and then they starts to take all the good that you have who is to be blame, reminisce on on that
I don't think colonization is the problem of Africa, the real problem of Africans lie within them, talk about the political system, economic system, people's mindset and way of life. Don't forget other countries were equally colonized and they're doing quite good, take Asia for example, a lot of countries are doimg well within the Asia region and they're colonized countries. It is high time for Africa to stop playing game and face the reality this is the only way the region can survive and build a meaningful development for the future generations.
You're right. Time to move. Asia reverse engineered. Bring in the Chinese. Take a look at all their technology, make your own version, sell it at a lower price. That's how China got where they are. They took American, European, Japanese technology apart and now they make their own version of it. Once we have the technology, then we can make our own better technology. Kenyans, Ghanaians, Nigerians, and other people of Africa are making technology out of nothing. Imagine what they can do with better technology.
The problem started during the slave trade when Africa began to selling their people for good and products. As time went on more African people were being shipped, the weaker Africa became. This allowed other countries to come in and take land position. And whatever goods they traded for, they did not use it to educate or built up theirs countries.
They will never acknowledge that...they will have to admit that their forefathers we're just as guilty as the Europeans.
First of all, WESTERN FOREIGN AID to AFRICA 🌍, is just a MYTH... I witnessed this when I was younger, you ask the WESTERNERS a help of building a local Hospital and train the nurses and Cadres to operate it, instead of doing it, they show up with 10 Flat TV'S purchased from abroad, not even locally.
And they tell you to sign for the delivery, later they make a report that a certain Town in any Country received 1 million$ in Aid...😂
Listening to those Ladies really inspired and makes me wanna invest more in my Lil sisters..... Am really inspired... Great minds
Salute✨ To you!!
Do it Those Young Brilliant Minds
Needs to be nurtured & invested into for the task ahead!
Absolutely on point, I gave courage to my niece to embrace Education very dearly, today she's a Librarian in Oprah Winfrey leadership academy right here in South Africa. I am proud of her.
Scheaffer Okore is on Point.
WOMEN MUST RULE AFRICA, IN ALL AFRICAN COUNTRIES. TIME FOR AFRICAN WOMEN. WOMEN AND THE YOUTHS!
Africa has been on foreign aid longer than most Canadian/British taxpayers have been born. This while exsoldiers and the mentality handicapped live, sleep and die on the bitterly cold streets of Canada. Our Canadian politicians and bureaucrats on their way to work, stepped over the homeless. Let that sink in. Why? Enquiring minds need to know.
Collaboration is only mutually beneficial when you collaborate as equals. Elsewise it is just exploitation.
Kenya has only had 57 years of independence. It took the US from 1776 to 1859 to stop deciding political office by way of duel. That's 83 years, in a country where the people decided their own borders.
Kenya's growth is going to take time. It is not going to be instant. This isn't a matter of blame, this is a matter of understanding and context. From where Kenya has started, it's growth is tremendous. Keep going and be proud of your accomplishments.
Afrika is the richest continent on the planet, yets its people are the poorest in the world. Our youths are unemployed, non-healthcare system, poor deplorable roads, etc. Why?, Why??, Why???.
Oh Yeah I’m black Kenyan but I will agree with Tony big time, like literally we are against the colonial era and neocolonial era yet we can’t address and articulate our issues in Swahili 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
🤷well africans ???? Sort your country out then?? You talk a lot about not wanting foreign investments?? Stop the investments, and sort your country out, employ your people, house your people, etc etc .....less of the chit, chat.
I think when it comes to development and growth we are taking the easy way out. We don't invest in our people to promote economic growth and development.
Bring this program to Nigeria please we need to educate Nigeria youth and hear their part of story
So called Nigerians already think they know everything.
Me thinks ending the use of the word NeoColonialism please.
Why not fit Coaching and Collaboration from a trustworthy Economic Partner to build a better, if not best workable model to build wealth and strength for your country.
Nation building is a long process. It builds confidence and strength in your hearts and minds to build a country you want to be proud of.
Foreign aid is a new form of colonization and I blame it on our poor governance .Africa needs a second independence ,from our colonizers and from our AFRICAN leaders .However ,we also need to refrain from the victim mentality . We can not wait for the world to be equal inorder for us to be seen ,to be heard and to apply change on the continent . We are a new breed of Africans , more informed ,more conscious and educated. What is stopping us from implementing change ? It is ourselves who can bring forth change and not our leaders. We need to stop the blaming game. All we know is to blame and to fight behind our phone screens,tweeting ,posting on our instagram and whatsapp stories but no action. All talk ...talk...talk..blaming...blaming ...blaming....Wake up africa !!!!!!!!!! ( Follow me on instagram at kuhle_ngubane)
..Neo-colonialism at its best.." the language, your first names.."
I am polish we were under rusian occupation obout 50 years. We are building again own country and don't think all time that we were under occupation .stop think about past think about future get out corrupted politicians and build your country .hate will not help you .
Look at france and cfa
@@XasanGuled-jt2we what happened in France ?why I must to look France ?
Chinese blind our leaders with money first and we have to vote carefully coz Asian, Western, European are thinking the same
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Loved the entire conversation.
One African one love we need to get together and look for solutions in our Africa I'm right
Dw why didn't you invite an economist in this conversation..clearly an expert in economics would interpret the economic benefits that Africa has gained and the disadvantages in a more informed manner
One statement stood out most to me... “we shouldn’t be concerned our countries (home and diaspora) are good tourists destinations and build for them....but be more concerned with feeding ourselves”.
*I'm Haitian, and I like Kenyan women.* 🥰💓❤❣
Have you met every woman in Kenyan?
Every Kenyan woman?
REALLY???
I love their line of thoughts , wish they had more time to express their thoughts especially tony on the China point.
These conversations are good. And much as we may dislike it, we have to accommodate all the different views and opinions. BUT!!!!!!!
Enough talk! Time to shift focus. All Africans MUST wake up!! PLO Lumumba said it. In 25 years we will be right back to where we crawled out of. We are so far behind and need to catch up by any means necessary. And by that I mean we must put our differences aside - this tribal bla bla - and focus on moving forward. We can do it! The black race has spent enough time talking about this. It’s time for action. Otherwise our Lord Jesus will come back and find us having these same conversations 🙄
Africa need to educate more women so that they can be leaders in Africa.... and women don't compromise if anything happens to their country.
Africa is not poor , so there is no need for foreign aid in Africa .The problem of Africa is managing finances well.
Talk talk won't solved african problem, the youth need to form new political party and not join any two main African's political parties.
Any investment funding comes with more than interest. The more you take/borrow the higher their stakes . That’s part of any nation climbing up the ladder .
We can speak about neo-colonialism 24/7 and the need to emancipate our minds but when you have grown and matured men with their hair dyed blonde and weaves also dyed blonde then there is a problem - a serious problem. These are black men who do not know what example they are setting. The same for black women.
I love this channel! These segments are so educational, and that reporter is awesome. She keeps the conversation going and on point.
Political system in Africa stinks,it makes me want to vomit. There is no sense of direction.How can a continent with vast arable land and rivers still import food... that's pathetic.
~ insightful, introspective & informative Edith! you bring it, & give Us plenty to Consider & shift our paradigms!🧐😜✅
🌍Help my people .. i should say our people as #humanity Johannesburg was Nyce 🌍
Fascinating discussion. Group of black Canadians watching and learning. Amazing work, here.
Great brainstorming and awesome journalism.loved how tony spoke about it.The past can't be forgotten or erased,be the change that you want to see
our curse started at the Berlin conference
This is not a victim mentality, this is simply stating historical facts! You cannot compromise historical facts for thinking that you might look as a "victim", which itself is not far from the truth. Africa as a whole is indeed a victim in this neocolonial structure, it's just the truth! Is Africa exploiting Europe and its military and its politics? Or is it Europe that is doing that to Africa? There is your answer!
And so we are talking about a centuries old problem, and about ways to solve it, and we cannot address any problem by denying or overlooking where the harm has been, and is still being, done! This has NOTHING to do with having a victim mentality! I hate how some people look so smart in how they dress and talk, but their reasoning is shit!
Blood an guns are the only way out ..
I am a year late commenting on the topic 🤣. But what a great debate 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.
Africa you are ready!!.
Africa you have always been ready.
So much talent and education.
So many of you understand and actually know what needs to be done.
Africa you are ready to take full control of your countries and the prosperous future of the next generation.
DW is a German public international broadcaster, that has the audacity to ask us if Africa is being robbed of its economical freedom When you are robbing Africa of it's broadcast freedom. WHY is it that Africans cant help themselves come on Africa the world needs us we dont need the world ask yourself not, what can AFRICA do for me but what can I do for AFRICA @the77percent go and find a African network other than that good job 🦁👋🏽