I have a DCT and bought this mount. Definitely notice more nvh at idle or extremely low speeds. However when using launch control I have way less wheel hop. Feels more planted. I don’t mind a little feel of the engine so I can live with it. To each their own
This is the second Elantra N video I’ve watched of yours and you guys are my place to get my Elantra N content. Keep up the good work! I can’t wait for track days.
We've got a little more time on it, and I'd rate the overall performance an 8/10. The NVH increase has definitely reduced after some mileage and you can tell a decent performance difference. My only complaint is that this design allows for movement in the Z (vertical) direction. This means you could get additional moments from things like bumps etc. - where normally mounts are designed to reduce displacement in one direction only.
I got the boomba (I’ve been told is very similar) and just putting this out as a PSA: it is INCREDIBLY rough starting off at low speed. Sitting and idling feels no different. I have yet to break it in. Anyone looking to do this just be aware if retaining some comfort is important go with a aftermarket bushing for the stock mount
I got the bushing instead of the whole engine mount because it was so much cheaper and i'm very happy with it. I think it was like $30. Absolutely no wheel hop, it's awesome.
Did you get the powerflex ones? If so, which models? I'm guessing the Engine lower torque arm bushing (PFF26-120), in performance/80/purple. They also have another that seems to go with it, the lower torque mount bushing (PFF26-121BLK)
Do you think people would have to bother with the rear motor mount with the DCT? I know it is an issue manual transitions but I am wondering if it makes a difference.
Have a DCT VN and went from the MT VN, the MT definitely needs the RMM replaced for WOT but the DCT due to the added weight doesn't wheel hop; I assume this would translate much to the Elantra as well.
Great video guys! Does this reduce the crazy wheel hop ? Also, what wheels are you using on the E N? Not here but I noticed on other videos you guys have black rims on the N.
Exactly, those rubber dampers are there for reason, and the designers of the car were not ret*rds. You'll feel the engine's vibrations everywhere in the car. For sake of some red light drag racing. It's not worth it. This is a rigid connection between the engine and chassis, jeeez. And this guy is advertising a SXTH Element product, he has coupon code. He must be very unbiased and honest, I'm sure about that.
@@telelaci2 I heard replacing the bushings can mitigate some of the hopping issues without ruining the ride quality. Bushings might be the middle ground between stock and a new bracket. Also cheaper.
@@MrCheesypuf Exactly it can do it, but at the cost of engine vibrations. Your car has a stiff suspension already, now you will feel the buzzing of your engine on your ar*e and on your palms and everywhere in the car. You remove the soft dampening and you get a little less hopping but you get the engine vibrations. I think it's a very bad deal.
The beginning shows the difference in how methodical your brother is compared to you (and that’s what makes Will Will and you Patric). *** he is right in his idea and you in yours. my real point through out your channel is that you and will still get things done with all that said. *remember enjoy the time with the people that matter in your life and don’t blink. I am great full for my brother, our relationship is more vocally elevated 🤦🏻♂️. BUT we still help each other (just need a day apart😂) through out these decades.
You won't really know the difference until you do a proper launch control or try launch it in the wet. Obviously can't really do that on break in though.
do you find that you get less wheel hop ..from a standing still start .how big of a difference.....is there.......do you ...have a link to site you got it from
It seems that the lower engine mount is a must for manual EN's and does eliminate the terrible wheel hop. But also adds a good amount of NVH according to many people. So Imo, THIS car works best with the DCT
Actually true. Another reason why the DCT is the better car, sadly lol. Ive driven autos my whole life, but got this fantasy in my head of driving manual. So I ordered a manual EN. Bugs me a little that i ordered the lesser one But im hoping ill get a drive feel from it that I'd never get from the dct
Is that a safe jacking point, I’m reading that it not be a good idea to jack in the middle of the side only use the front and back notched areas to jack the car.
He's swapping it out because it's his car! Let him be! But swapping out the engine mount isn't a bad thing. An engine mount can positively impact the car. For Elantra N's case, from what I know, the reason why people are swapping out the engine mounts is mainly to minimize the amount of wheel hop when you do a launch control, or when you accelerate hard from a stop/slow speed.
@@damienfrizzell9394 Uh, how do I not have a subjective baseline? I've been driving the car for 2 months... Even stock, the EN's suffer from pretty bad wheel hop, and like mentioned in the video you can feel that there's too much movement in the longitudinal axis, which effects shifting feel.
@@williamrori1274 Pretty bad wheel hop? You must be driving like a lunatic. Joking aside, I have no issue with traction. But then again, I'm older, so I'm not doing burnouts all over the place. To each his own, but that is one mod I don't really feel is necessary. People track the EN just fine with the stock mounts, and the car was never meant to be a from-the-dig drag racer.
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Has the NVH gotten better as the mount broke in?
I have a DCT and bought this mount. Definitely notice more nvh at idle or extremely low speeds. However when using launch control I have way less wheel hop. Feels more planted. I don’t mind a little feel of the engine so I can live with it. To each their own
This is the second Elantra N video I’ve watched of yours and you guys are my place to get my Elantra N content. Keep up the good work! I can’t wait for track days.
Track day next weekend :)
Is this something you’d put on cause your car is a manual one? I’m getting the dct one..
We've got a little more time on it, and I'd rate the overall performance an 8/10. The NVH increase has definitely reduced after some mileage and you can tell a decent performance difference. My only complaint is that this design allows for movement in the Z (vertical) direction. This means you could get additional moments from things like bumps etc. - where normally mounts are designed to reduce displacement in one direction only.
could you put up a link ..on where to order the mount from
Interesting. Wonder if a mount from a different manufacturer solves the Z directional movement
I got the boomba (I’ve been told is very similar) and just putting this out as a PSA: it is INCREDIBLY rough starting off at low speed. Sitting and idling feels no different. I have yet to break it in. Anyone looking to do this just be aware if retaining some comfort is important go with a aftermarket bushing for the stock mount
I got the bushing instead of the whole engine mount because it was so much cheaper and i'm very happy with it. I think it was like $30. Absolutely no wheel hop, it's awesome.
Did you get the powerflex ones? If so, which models? I'm guessing the Engine lower torque arm bushing (PFF26-120), in performance/80/purple. They also have another that seems to go with it, the lower torque mount bushing (PFF26-121BLK)
@@jamesmartin6535 I got PFF26-120 Purple
Do you know anything about the -121 part? Looks like it compliments the -120
@@jamesmartin6535 I do not unfortunately.
Hows NVH?
Do you think people would have to bother with the rear motor mount with the DCT? I know it is an issue manual transitions but I am wondering if it makes a difference.
I was about to ask this too, subscribed👍
I'm guessing no. You'd likely just be increasing NVH for no real benefit
Have a DCT VN and went from the MT VN, the MT definitely needs the RMM replaced for WOT but the DCT due to the added weight doesn't wheel hop; I assume this would translate much to the Elantra as well.
Great video guys!
Does this reduce the crazy wheel hop ?
Also, what wheels are you using on the E N? Not here but I noticed on other videos you guys have black rims on the N.
Everybody usually switches back to stock. The 100% (all the time) NVH increase isn't worth the one or 2 times you might be spinning the wheels.
not really, if you only doing rmm it will feel better once it breaks in. but if you repalce all 3 mounts then you'll asking for hell.
I got a lot of wheel spin under 50 degrees. Any day above 70 no wheel spin. I agree stock is better to keep on this one.
Exactly, those rubber dampers are there for reason, and the designers of the car were not ret*rds. You'll feel the engine's vibrations everywhere in the car. For sake of some red light drag racing. It's not worth it. This is a rigid connection between the engine and chassis, jeeez. And this guy is advertising a SXTH Element product, he has coupon code. He must be very unbiased and honest, I'm sure about that.
@@telelaci2 I heard replacing the bushings can mitigate some of the hopping issues without ruining the ride quality. Bushings might be the middle ground between stock and a new bracket. Also cheaper.
@@MrCheesypuf Exactly it can do it, but at the cost of engine vibrations. Your car has a stiff suspension already, now you will feel the buzzing of your engine on your ar*e and on your palms and everywhere in the car. You remove the soft dampening and you get a little less hopping but you get the engine vibrations. I think it's a very bad deal.
The beginning shows the difference in how methodical your brother is compared to you (and that’s what makes Will Will and you Patric). *** he is right in his idea and you in yours. my real point through out your channel is that you and will still get things done with all that said. *remember enjoy the time with the people that matter in your life and don’t blink. I am great full for my brother, our relationship is more vocally elevated 🤦🏻♂️. BUT we still help each other (just need a day apart😂) through out these decades.
Thank you for mentioning break in period. Very tired of hearing a bunch VN or EN owners hyundai sucks after they go crazy during break in period.
6 M/T
easiest motor mount to access ever!!! when you got it in the air i was like ohh its right there! in your face!
These things sounds soooo good!
Best car among the same segment!!
You won't really know the difference until you do a proper launch control or try launch it in the wet. Obviously can't really do that on break in though.
Would this be just about same process for Elantra n line as well or no
Hmmmmm honestly I'm not sure, most FWD cars will be pretty similar with this mount but it can vary in process
So does it eliminate wheel hop and axle tramp when nailing it?
Looks like something i could do myself. Just need the tools and something to lift the car
Will this void the warranty?
Do you think a spare tire T125/80R17 will clear the brake calipers on Elantra N, especially front calipers since they are bigger than rear?
do you find that you get less wheel hop ..from a standing still start .how big of a difference.....is there.......do you ...have a link to site you got it from
It seems that the lower engine mount is a must for manual EN's and does eliminate the terrible wheel hop. But also adds a good amount of NVH according to many people. So Imo, THIS car works best with the DCT
Actually true. Another reason why the DCT is the better car, sadly lol. Ive driven autos my whole life, but got this fantasy in my head of driving manual. So I ordered a manual EN. Bugs me a little that i ordered the lesser one
But im hoping ill get a drive feel from it that I'd never get from the dct
Does the DCT not also experience wheel hop? Or just less noticeable?
prime example of how someone can have “Car Strength”
is that a solid mount?
is this a rear engine mount?
Is that a safe jacking point, I’m reading that it not be a good idea to jack in the middle of the side only use the front and back notched areas to jack the car.
I looked at that too, not the place I would have jacked from either.
What is "mdh" or "mvh" ? 😭
NVH (noise vibration and harshness), cool nerd abbreviation
Does it void the warranty? Find out first
Is your brother an engineer? He seems like a smart dude.
He's an automotive engineer and don't tell him I said this but he is farily smart
Y U NO close knife immediately after use? Dangerous 🤭
What Happens If You Dont Break In The Engine?
Your warranty goes away
Engine is pre broke in by the factory for you :)
Where did you learn this?
Wrong
Break in too
why would u fix somthing that you wrent sure thats broken? obviously still in beak in so how u know what it feels like to shift hard?
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He's swapping it out because it's his car! Let him be! But swapping out the engine mount isn't a bad thing. An engine mount can positively impact the car. For Elantra N's case, from what I know, the reason why people are swapping out the engine mounts is mainly to minimize the amount of wheel hop when you do a launch control, or when you accelerate hard from a stop/slow speed.
@@parsadazebra3399 yeh fair enough but with out a subjective base line to compare it to how will you ever know how worth doing it was
@@damienfrizzell9394 Uh, how do I not have a subjective baseline? I've been driving the car for 2 months... Even stock, the EN's suffer from pretty bad wheel hop, and like mentioned in the video you can feel that there's too much movement in the longitudinal axis, which effects shifting feel.
@@williamrori1274 Pretty bad wheel hop? You must be driving like a lunatic. Joking aside, I have no issue with traction. But then again, I'm older, so I'm not doing burnouts all over the place. To each his own, but that is one mod I don't really feel is necessary. People track the EN just fine with the stock mounts, and the car was never meant to be a from-the-dig drag racer.
@@williamrori1274 was i talking about you?