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I don’t think people nowadays will truly appreciate what an accomplishment this film was. Nothing came this close to blending real people and animation, it was revolutionary.
these days you wouldn't be able to get daffy and donald on the same stage either. lmao
Damn straight
The forerunner was dangerous when wet in 1953. An amazing combination of Esther Williams with Tom and Jerry.
Mary Poppins did a pretty good job.
Cool world
One of my favorite bit of trivia from this movie is that they actually got Mae Questel (who was one of the original voice actors for Betty Boop) to reprise her role. This was the last performance of hers before she passed away. She was 79-80 years old when she did her lines for this movie. Which makes her line "I still got it, Eddie." all the more powerful.
Such a great movie and still holds up today.
She also has a nip slip when she adjusts her dress.
79 years old, and she still got it
Third to last. She did New York Stories, and Christmas Vacation (both in 1989) before passing in 1998 at 89 y/o.
It was also the last performance of Mel Blanc (Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, Tweety -- but not Yosemite Sam, oddly enough). When he went into the recording studio, it was standing room only; everyone on the crew wanted to witness the master at work.
I like this movie and I seen it when I was little and it's my favorite movie from my childhood and I like this movie and it's a good movie but not funny about this movie and it's still a good movie but not funny about this movie and what do you think about this movie same thing what I say right
The plot about the auto industry buying out and shutting sown public transit systems to sell cars, and the introduction of the freeway system is actually something that happened. They did a great job incorporating real history into the plot.
It was the auto industry and the rubber industry. They did it to sell more tires.
Better than the book plot.
@@arcanask And the gas companies, wanting to sell more gasoline
This was also similar to the plot in Chinatown.
@@blakeharris58 according to the redlettermedia commentary on roger rabbit, parts of the plot were meant to be in a sequel to Chinatown
From a purely technical and storytelling perspective, this is among the greatest films of all time. There’s a lot of show don’t tell here. In the first few minutes, they give you all the principle characters and what their motivations are, 90% through visuals. Within minutes, you know who Eddie Valiant is and why he does what he does. And in 1988, CG wasn’t good enough yet, so they had to literally used more practical techniques to make the hand drawn characters look like they were interacting with live action characters. This film holds up in 2023 and still looks great, whereas some of the superhero movies of the early 2000s don’t because it’s all obvious, lazy CG. Spider-Man comes to mind. This looks better and more realistic than 95% of movies today. Robert Zemeckis doesn’t get enough praise. He used CG in Forrest Gump, but it wasn’t overdone and still looks great today.
39:15 why just why with kiss
The trays that the penguin waiters were carrying were real, and to do that effect they had poles fed up through the floor handled by stagehands underneath the floor. The way they worked to incorporate the live action and the animation is fantastic.
I asked my favorite film teacher what his favorite film was expecting Citizen Kane or Caligari or something off of the AFI top 10. This was it, and for all the reasons you mentioned and more.
@@Vaishinoit looks incredible and in 2023, you still can’t duplicate that visual effect in CG. It really looks and feels like the characters are all really there interacting.
This is my favorite Zemeckis...Back to the Future was fun but light. Gump was too emotionally manipulative for me, but this incredible ode to film noir with the amazing technical effects is his best, IMO.
Christopher Lloyd is perfect in this role. He always seems to be a living cartoon!!!
Absolutely ❤
Love him!
If there had been a sequel, Jim Carrey should have gotten in on it.
@@christopherb501 he still could...
And Christopher Lloyd is also starring in a video game called Toonstruck. where he gets stuck in a cartoon world.
I just found out a couple days ago that Christopher Lloyd was cast in an 'undisclosed role' in the Knuckles spinoff for the Sonic Cinematic Universe (it still feels weird saying those three words). Everybody seems to think he was cast as Gerald Robotnik.
I'll never get over that shoe scene. So many childhoods were traumatized by that.
I know.
What one may miss is that the ingredients of "The Dip" are the same active ingredients in Paint Thinner, which animators used to erase mistakes on clear animation cells. The toons essentially being living paint.
It's sadly ironic that he pushes Eddie verbally about not caring about a toon killing a human, than proceeds to kill a toon that did nothing wrong.
The craziest part? IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. The original plan was to use a talking gopher. TALKING, as in, they would have had actual lines, begging for mercy and a fair trial. Be thankful they decided to tone it down.
Mine was one of those childhoods
This movie has a lot of historical context to it. In the 1930s and 40s, the city of Los Angeles has a great public transportation system. Few people had their own cars. But the automobile industry wanted to make more money, so they devised a plan to remove the public transportation trains and build massive freeways to support automobile traffic. They also destroyed predominately Latino neighborhoods to make the freeways and roads they wanted, driving many people out of their homes.
Something similar happened to where I am in Australia and the trains that used to connect the northern rivers stopped running and now every town in the northern rivers area has about 4 to 8 petrol stations, it’s a conspiracy I tell ya.
You did your homework! 👍 Correct!!
man, I LOVE this film. I used to watch the VHS over and over again and it was one of the first things I saw when Disney+ launched. the first being The Three Caballero’s. But THIS movie was like The Avengers for little kids the way it mixed universes and studios.
This movie is both a fantastically-written noir comedy and a technological marvel. Absolutely brilliant production and them getting both WB and Disney on board is incredible.
Recently I've fallen down a transit/urbanism rabbit hole (pun intended) which makes the plot of this movie so much more fascinating. Eddie's line about the best public transit in the world was entirely accurate - LA had the most extensive streetcar system on the planet at its peak and was a modern wonder of transit. Then it all got torn up and so many great old neighborhoods were torn down to build the freeways, which have destroyed American prosperity.
It's a multifaceted situation when zoomed out. It was mostly the car manufacturers, oil companies and insurance companies that lobbied the federal government to due away with the public transit. While the car, initially gave people a lot of freedom it was slowly eroded away. Government came up with licenses which turned a natural right into a privilege granted by them. Car manufacturers lobbied government slowly corner the market on their behalf. Oil companies managed to due away with every form of alternative fuel sources that didn't come from them. And now after the U.S. has been molded into a car culture it all being stripped away by ESG regulations. Electric vehicles are worse for the environment and the individual using them for transportation. The push for autonomous vehicles has made people think they'll have the freedom of a magic carpet rakong them around but if you have an autonomous vehicle that mean you have to relinquish your autonomy for controlling the vehicle. About a decade ago, DARPA showed that they could hack into a regular Jeep Cherokee while it was driving down the highway. Today, police departments say they'll have backdoor access to autonomous electric vehicles to shut them down or simply have them lock the doors and drive straight to the police station. Within a decade, you may not have access to transportation while living in a SMART city designed around you not having a personal vehicle. Prosperity was taken and now their coming for your freedom of movement.
The only problem is that Dennis Hoskins uses a very New York/New England accent, and he’s supposed to be from California. Hoskins was a British guy, so I applaud him for getting some kind of authentic American accent down, but he doesn’t sound like he’s from California. Granted, a lot of actors and actresses from California don’t sound like they’re from there either. Jennifer Aniston in particular sounds more eastern than California and she grew up there. I’m from British Columbia and we sound very different from the typical “Canadian” accent that Americans are familiar with, which is typical of rural Worst Case Ontario. Yes, I dissed Ontario.
It wasn't just LA, the USA used to have more rails than Europe, there were 5 star hotels on rails, pretty much every city had small rail systems similar to what has become just a novelty in San Francisco. Even people that owned cars typically wouldn't drive them further than 15 miles or so, to and from work, running errands and such, they would use the rails to travel from city to city. It all ended when Firestone bought out most of the rails across America just to dismantle them, they wanted more people to buy tires as there was little to no market for them beyond the first set that came with a car.
@@midnighttoker9268 oh sure, just that LA was particularly excellent. You used to be able to travel from somewhere in New England (maybe southern Maine? I forget) to Wisconsin via entirely streetcars. America had fantastic public transport until it was all bulldozed to build highways and parking lots everywhere.
@_bats_
Roger Rabbit isn't set in L.A.
dumbass. Eddie wasn't talking about L.A.
After all the years since this film came out, it was today that I just got the joke when the guy says he's seen a rabbit and tells Harvey to say hello. This reference is for a film called Harvey that stars James Stewart where his best friend is a really tall invisible rabbit. I've recently seen the film for the first time and now the joke finally makes sense. I wonder how many other people actually caught the reference.
Technically, it's a reference to the play that movie was based on. The movie didn't come out until several years after this movie took place.
Bonus now that you've seen Harvey - go rewatch Shawshank Redemption.
@firsealtonberry9712 oh my what did I miss there? 🤔 I love seeing older stuff and realizing I've seen references to it before.
i only know the Steve Martin version
@@synaesthesia2010 there's a Steve Martin version? Is it the same name?
MASTERPIECE! 🥰
Instant classic. It's both a blessing and a curse that this movie is so one of a kind, because it would be cool to see more movies like this, but that just makes it more unique. On a side, I'm glad I never watched this as a kid, so many people tell me the ending fight terrified them. I don't think I would have been able to fight Majora's Wrath with that kind of trauma.
They won’t ever make a film like this again because of Hollywood’s over reliance on CG. Why have real stunt work and planning when you can just create a whole character with a computer? It doesn’t look real, but those movies make a lot of money and they’re easier to make.
This movie and Team America World Police…hilarious and original and creative and both creative teams have said that they would never put in the insane amount of work needed to make anything like it again.
Cool World is another movie like this one. Not as good as Roger Rabbit but still a solid movie.
@@RetroMonger I honestly really liked Cool World, but for all the reasons Nostalgia Critic raised. It would have been nice for Ralph to have been allowed to make the movie he wanted to.
I agree, there could have been a whole lot more experimentation in this genre before everything went too digital
Saw this as a kid (when it came out), movie was wild back then. Still holds up today i believe.
17:59 “Only when it was funny!” 🤣🐰
Roger & Eddie are hysterical together.
Fun little fact about the cast. The guy that played the detective also played Mario is the original Super Mario Bros movie flop and the guy that played the toon villian, Christopher Lloyd, played Doc in the Back to the Future trilogy and also Uncle Fester in the original Addams Family movie
Yeah. It's a shame in my mind the reactors who watch this movie blind never know the actor who portrayed Eddie Valiant. He was played by the late Bob Hoskins, who died from pneumonia in 2014 at age 71. Was also a Golden Globe winner and Best Actor Oscar nominee for Mona Lisa. (The 1986 film, not to be confused with Mona Lisa Smile from 2003) Hoskins also starred in various roles in other things I've seen: Mrs Henderson Presents, Stay, Unleashed, Enemy at the Gates and your aforementioned Super Mario Bros. He later said on record that the last entry was the ''biggest regret of his career'', as someone who saw that in theaters as a kid, it's very understandable.
Don't forget Michael
@digidv85 Bob Hoskins...that's right. I couldn't think of his name when I was commenting. A side note about the Super Mario Bros movie...I seen an interview with Dennis Hopper once and that movie got brought up and he told a story that his son watched it with him when it first came out and after the movie asked why he was in the movie and he told him that he did it so he could buy him shoes and he said his son looked at him and with the most serious face he'd ever seen said "Dad, I didn't need shoes that bad." I about died when he told that story
The late Hoskins also appeared in The Long Good Friday / Hook / Balto / Felicia's Journey / Son of the Mask (yet another infamous flop, as Loki's dad Odin).
@@digidv85Unleashed was such a good movie. Called Danny the Dog in some countries. Jet Li and Morgan Freeman, Bob as the villain (and a damn good one)
The legal gymnastics to get Disney, Warner Brothers et al to allow their characters screen time together! Pure magic.
I would love to see Star Trek reactions from You.
I'm old enough to have seen this in the theater as a kid. Now I'm old enough to enjoy the grown up humor as an adult.
For a movie that’s over 30 years old the animation is still phenomenal and it absolutely holds up
Some things many people don't pick up on their first viewing:
- being funny is the most valuable thing to toons, which is why Roger is regarded so highly and why other toons consider Jessica the lucky one in the relationship
- toons' only physical limitation is what's funny and are practically invincible otherwise (other than dip, which is a mixture of turpentine, acetone, and benzine - all are paint-thinners)
- in the bar, you can see Doom backing up and avoiding the dip like it's life or death rather than simply running over it to chase Eddie and Roger
Amazing I actually yelled “hell yeah” when I saw this. This movie is one of my favorites and it’s sick to see someone watch it for the first time. Nice choice just picking something randomly.
What I love about this movie beyond the effects and storytelling is the racial undertones. “Laughter can be a very powerful thing. Sometimes in life, it’s the only weapon we have.” This was set in the 1940s when they still had racist rules at the Cotton Club, where a black person could perform or wait tables, but they could never get in as a member or spectator. Roger is literally describing the black experience at that time. It’s not too on the nose, but the reference is there throughout, including the brief moment when Roger is talking to Eddie and he’s literally standing on a soapbox. That is fantastic visual storytelling. Again, it’s subtle in its comparisons to racism in the way toons are treated like circus animals and entertainment, but it isn’t exactly spelling it out for you. I love this kind of storytelling.
I saw this when it hit theaters back in '88. I can tell you right now, NO ONE was ready for it. It was an absolute sensation! The blending of cartoons and live action hadn't been done on this scale before. Plus, seeing so many brand name cartoon characters all together in the same movie was extremely rare!
I have owned this movie in several different formats and have probably watched a few dozen times. It never gets old because there will ALWAYS be something new for me to see that I didn't notice before!
Glad you enjoyed it, Leo! I wish I could recommend a similar film, but this still remains untouchable.
The legal work on Bugs and Mickey *alone* was amazing. Let alone the rest of the toons.
I don't know how I missed this in the theater when it was out. Granted, I was only 7 at the time, but it was around the year I started going to films, The Little Mermaid being one of my earliest theater memories. I'm gonna search for any Fathom Events for this though, because I want that experience with it, for sure.
It isn't similar per-se, but I hope he watches "Honey I Shrunk the Kid's" sometime. It's a playful film that also had lots of practical effects--they used huge sets for the kids to interact in and giant props like when they got swept up with the broom.
@@Perid0tStar Isn't it also Spielberg?
@@k1productions87 You know? Never thought about it. Could have been--he had so many projects at the time.
In a later interview, Bob Hoskins (Eddie) said that doing this movie left him in a very strange place mentally. He'd spent months talking and reacting to people that basically weren't there. Yeah, I can see that.
The freeway thing is based in historical reality. At that time, LA had an excellent public transport network. Then several corporations (including an oil company and a couple of carmakers) basically teamed up to buy out the network, run it into the ground, and then scrap it. That way, they forced a big chunk of LA's residents into depending on cars for everything they did.
GM, Firestone Tire, and Standard Oil were often blamed for the death of streetcars, but the reality is a little more political... For decades, the standard streetcar fare was 5 cents. After SEVERAL attempts by the companies to get approval from local politicians (who were afraid their constituents would vote them out if they were raised) to raise the fares failed, many could no longer afford to operate and went under. Another contributing factor was the massive influx of cars on the streets after WWII that caused HUGE delays in schedules.
sounds like the issues with filming the hobbit.
He had to take like 2yrs off I believe from acting to get back in the right mind frame. Having to pretty much talk to yourself for two years will do that to you. And honestly this movie will always hold up against time. I was heartbroken when Bob hoskins passed 😔
The guy that does the voice for rodger rabit, had a cameo in back to the future pt.2 as the guy talking to marty about how the cubs won the world series.
The off ramp on a freeway is commonly called a cloverleaf, round on every side. My father drove a Redline trolly and they covered all of L.A..It was considered the premier travel system of the time.
Cloverleaf is just one interchange design out of many.
@NeeoAnt I brought cloverleaf up because that is the name of the company the judge owns that is buying up the redline to make the freeway system. It's a clever idea to explain why on earth they would substitute a phenomenally successful system for the monstrosity called a freeway.
When it was revealed that the bad guy was a toon, and he says "remember me Eddie?!" That shit was nightmare fuel as a child
No one had requested this?! o_O
Well... You choose wisely! Great movie. I have loved this movie since ... 1989 when I saw it first time. :)
This movie is a damn classic! I remember when it came out--I loved it, because I had dreams of being an animation artist when I was younger. I was just enamored with how they combined animation and live action so seamlessly, and with nothing but cell-by-cell animation hand drawn. Such talent all around. And it STILL holds up, and it always will.
Also, it's a classic because they were able to get Disney and Warner Brothers to be willing to share their characters in the same movie, and that was really unheard of back then. It'd be like Dreamworkds and Pixar doing a mashup today.
Daffy Duck and Donald Duck? Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny?
It'll never happen again. Once in a lifetime event.
Believe it or not, this movie is based on a book!🤯 Also, if you rewatch it and pay close attention to Judge Doom, you can see the clues that there's something not quite right with him. The scene with the shoe or the bar fight? He puts on a heavy rubber glove and backs away quickly so that the DIP doesn't touch him, while we the audience believe it's so he doesn't get dirty since the DIP doesn't hurt humans. Another fun fact, Doom's cape is always moving in the wind, despite being in doors😆
When this movie first came out, it was my first date with my wife. It absolutely blew everyone away. Now days, CGI makes things like this a lot easier, but back then, it was a miraculous accomplishment. I won a slew of awards. Fantastic movie.
There was a theory that the Toon under the Judge Doom mask was a former Maroon Cartoons employee called "Pistol Packin' Possum". Beyond the fact Possum had red eyes and carried a similar gun in the poster we see in Maroon's office, he only had the one singular poster while Roger and Baby Herman had four. The theory is that Possum was going to be Maroon's next big thing until Roger and Herman came along, stealing the spotlight and leaving Possum essentially out of work.
It is also entirely possible that Possum's cartoons were more serious action pieces rather than overly comical, so when his spotlight is stolen by one who is purely about laughter, he would grow to hate laughter, as well as take out those who perpetuate it - Roger, Maroon, Acme, and eventually ToonTown itself. The zillion simoleons he got away with was the money he needed to establish himself in a position of power, buy the election, build of Cloverleaf Industries, buy out the "Red Car" and produce not just the Dip Machine (as I call it), but manufacture the vast quantities of Dip that filled it. Eddie and Teddy Valiant, who were investigating the robbery, got too close and Teddy paid the ultimate price. Hopefully it may have given Eddie some closure, as that sacrifice may very well have ultimately saved everyone in ToonTown.
So this was the first film to get both Warner Brothers and Disney on the same screen. One of the biggest conditions was that Mickey and Bugs had to have the same amount of screen time and Donald and Daffy had to have the same as well. That's why each time you see one you see the other.
They also had them together in children's book in the 80s and 90s. Fun time before money separated everything.
Not just equal screentime, but equal skill. Daffy and Donald had to be just as good at playing the piano, and Bugs and Mickey had to be the intellectual equivalent of each other.
Bob Hoskins probably has the single most awesome scene in any movie in this one.
Who else got to be in a scene with both Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? Hard to beat that.
Yassss! I can’t wait to see your reaction to Jessica Rabbit! The bad guy scared me so bad as a kid!! Love ya, Leo❤❤
This dude haunted me for months. Horrible horrible nightmares.
@@noelienoelie8425 The original Hat Man
@@stormy_daydreamsWho exactly is even Hat Man?
@@emmanuelharris6445 Many people have said they have seen him when they experience sleep paralysis. Some have even seen him while awake.
@@noelienoelie8425 When I was a kid, I had a picture book of the movie with a bunch of scenes in it. For some reason they put a picture of Dooms face showing his crazy eyes right where the book always tried to open where its staples were. My older sister saved the day by carefully folding wrapping paper and taping it over the picture so it wouldn't scare me :)
Freeways actually ruined the planet !! ..... It'd be a great day when the United States start looking more like Europe where you can go very long distances on a fast speed train up to 285MPH and get there fast without any pollution. I am glad to see LA is slowly but surely going back to traveling and moving people via light rail, subway and hydrogen buses. I do everything in LA by Metro. I can go from Downtown Los Angeles to the center of Hollywood in 9 minutes underground. By car it will take me at least 40 minutes or more if there's traffic !! With all that said, the film is amazing !!
This movie feels like a celebration of cinema and a love letter to Hollywood, the sort of spectacle people would queue around the block to see (I did). Disney and WB characters in the same movie is a pretty special and rare happening. The effort, time and money required to make this movie along with the advances in CGI mean we'll probably never see it's like again. There have been sporadic rumor's about a possible sequel and while everyone really wants more Roger Rabbit, I think it's probably for the best it doesn't happen.
this film is a masterclass in exposition without characters having to clunkily explain everything. for example, look at when we first see Eddie, he's drinking from a hip flask - possible alcoholic? he hides the flask in a gun holster - former life as a cop? the way he says 'toons' - possibly hates or has little time for animated characters? the way he reacts to Angelo's jokes show he has little in the way of a sense of humour. when Angelo asks what his problem is, Delores tells him his brother was killed by a toon who dropped a piano on his head. when he interacts with Betty Boo, there is affection for her from Eddie, it's clear they always had a good relationship, but it isn't elaborated why. it's also clear that Eddie at one point was friend to toons in general. then there's the flyby of his office, we see that he and his brother were born in a circus family, he used to love clowning around and joined the police with his brother. because of their love for clownish antics, they got all the toon cases. they were well liked by toons and respected by them. what we don't see is why Eddie changed into an alcoholic with a hatred of toons, that comes later, but we know all we know up until that point with barely any words spoken
"Thanks for the cigarettes" to a group of the children. 🤣🤣🤣 This movie could never have been made nowadays.
I don’t think there’s any singular answer as to how to win a lover, but when Jessica says, “He makes me laugh,” I think that’s almost the film’s signature line. Although in a prior scene she also suggests that Roger’s really good in bed so probably don’t put all your eggs in one basket…
In-universe, it's also a thing that of Jessica & Roger, the other toons remark how Jessica is the lucky one, because the main standard by which attractiveness is judged for them is how funny they are & while Jessica is great to humans, being funny really isn't her thing so she'd not be considered particularly attractive by toons.
Eggactly ! Dont hate me because you love me.
"Harvey" was s story about a man who saw an imaginary rabbit with that name. It was a play then turned into a movie starring Jimmy Stewart when he was a young man. Since this film was set into 1947, everyone knew about that character
I loved this when I was a kid and love it even more as an adult, when I got all the jokes. Delores walking in on Eddie and Jessica Rabbit asking "dabbling in watercolors Eddie?" Went over my head for years.
Not only was the technical aspect amazing, the fact that they did the deed of getting use of all those cartoons under the label of different companies to be able to do scenes in the same film. One of the stipulations was that each rivel character had to have the same amount of time on the screen which is why Daffy and Donald are together and Mickey and Bugs Bunny were together in each of their scenes.
Next time you watch it, you’ll start noticing things about how Doom acted at certain points… and how on a first watch it doesn’t make complete sense until you know what happens. Christopher Lloyd played his role quite well on this one.
They had to rig up all sorts of crazy shit to make these scenes work so the animated characters could interact with the real world. Ton of creativity and ingenuity in this production. Also pretty wild that WB and Disney reached an agreement to have their characters show up together. That made it all the more fun to watch.
The "glaring daggers" moment was nightmare fuel when I watched it as a kid. And I was today years old to make the connection of it being "glaring dagger" when reading the comments.
As challenging as it was to blend live action & animation like that, the biggest challenge was for the copyright lawyers negotiating to have Disney & Warner Bros characters in the same movie
The original Space Jam next👍
And I read the main guy stopped acting after this. Because of all the work it took talking to nothing there
My favorite random trivia tidbit - Angelo, the barfly that Eddie roughs up early in the film is also the voice of Daddy Pig on Peppa Pig
Speaking of back to the future - the guy voicing Roger is in part 2. He's the one that gives Marty the idea about the sports almanac
Yes, Props to all the actors who interacted with nothing and made us believe it was real
Zero excuses to Lucas's direction a decade later.
I miss old animation man it looks so much more smooth and pleasing to the eye compared to what things are like how especially all the 3D CGI cartoons.
That cartoon shoe getting killed in the dip is still just awful to this day.
Technological accomplishments aside, this movie made history in another way. It is to date, the only time Warner Bros. & Disney characters have shared the screen in any way. The stipulation that both studios placed on the project was that each of their respective 'big name" assets (Bugs, Daffy, Mickey, & Donald) had to have equal amounts of screen time and dialogue. Hence the reason the appear in the same scene. This movie did so many things that were previously thought impossible for the time. It's a travesty that it is still not more widely known & recognized. This was the Avatar of the late 80's in terms of what they were able to create and how seamless the integration is. "Bump the Lamp" became and animation industry term because of this movie and the painstaking level of detail put into each scene to fully integrate the animation into the real world surroundings. Every single frame of film has a corresponding animation cell. Absolutely mind-blowing.
The movie's made in 1988, but it depicts the 1940s/50s. It was already freeways and billboards all over the place by '88, unfortunalely.
Ummm...the joke back when the movie was released was that the freeway and everything Judge Doom described existed IRL in 1988. Remember the film is set in the 1940's and none of that yet existed in the movie's world. However in real life Route 66 was already a thing in the 40s, but the big commercialization of it with roadside attractions and motels popped up more in the 50's when tourist traffic to California really started to ramp up.
I always thought Roger Rabbit was one of the less popular, but still OG cartoon characters like Mickey, Goofy, etc, that were created in the early days but it turns out he was one of the more recent since the character was created in like 1981 or something, wild.
This movie was way ahead of its time. We're talking 1988! The animation quality is mind-blowing.
Bob Hoskins was also in Mermaids with Cher,Super Mario Brothers, Calender Girls,and one movie with Jet Li chained up as a fighter
Aw yea!! one of my Fave movies growing up as a kid! Such a riot. Shows how different it was when we grew up vs now. What they allowed in kids toons back then vs today.
I always loved the 'buddy cop' dynamic between Eddie and Roger. The two just bounce off one another's lines so well.
I think my favorite thing about this Movie, is how it establishes what living in a world where Humans and Toons co-exist would actually result in. I mean think about it:
Toons are basically immortal. They can take all kinds of life threatening damage, explosions, blades, being crushed, being ignited, and otherwise suffering damages that would kill a human being. And they shrug it off like it's nothing. This makes them perfect for acting, and other dangerous jobs, because if a toon gets hurt... they shrug it off. RK Maroon even mentions this when first meeting Eddie "Nah, he's a toon, you can drop anything you want on his head, he'll shake it off." The only thing they fear, is Dip; which is basically a combination of paint thinners and destroyers (which makes sense: Toons are animated ink and paint).
BUT, with that said and done... it's pretty clearly established that the majority of Toons do NOT understand that actual Human beings do not follow this type of logic. Which is why Eddie's journey through Toon Town is one of the most jarring moments in the movie. Meeting Tweety Bird, Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse, seems cool... but their little "parachute psyche spare tire" prank, would've killed Eddie if Lena Hyena hadn't caught him after the fall. This is kind of what makes Toons a little difficult to work with. They don't grasp that their zany fun is dangerous to normal people... which can make them dangerous. This is also why the main villain is able to get away with all the stuff he does; as he is a Toon who not only KNOWS that their zany wackiness is dangerous to Humans, but actively uses it against them.
In addition, the clues for a lot of the creative stuff in the Movie are scattered throughout. If you paid attention to the scene panning over Eddie's office and his time spent with his brother. You might've seen the newspaper headline showing him and his bro were practical jokers, and even worked along with their father as a clown in the circus. This makes the scene where Eddie makes the weasels laugh make sense in context, and the Movie has it all over the place for everything. It's really awesome the amount of detail and effort they put into it.
Amazing bro! Haha I rewatched this the other night! Classic movie. Please do Black Knight (Martin Lawrence), Blue Streak and Just Visiting. You'll laugh your ass off, guaranteed!
Man I miss the good old Days
This is an immortal masterpiece. One of my absolute favourites.
To answer your question, they made it look so realistic by shooting rehearsals of the entire movie with dummies or dressed-up characters, just to memorise all the timings and the places where to look at, to grab etc. I love today movies too, but it's undeniable that today you wouldn't see similar masters of acting and direction putting such an effort to overcome technological limitations.
And if don't have a good sense of humour...
My favorite movie a little ahead of the movie, Saturn Rising. Back then, the mime-acting and the whole "interacting with nothing" bit was seen as absurd or rare, but due to CGI these days, it's pretty common place.
Just to let you know, the basic plot for this movie follows one of the unused screenplays for the Chinatown sequels. Chinatown follows the L.A. water scandal, and The Two Jacks follows the development of the L.A. oil fields, with Who Framed Roger Rabbit showing the destruction of property where mostly minorities were living so the city could build the freeway, it shows this through allegories with toon representing the minority class at the time, and with the Ink & Paint club being a stand in for the real life cotton club. Also this move is baced on a book called Who Censored Roger Rabbit, in the book they are comic book characters that speak through speech bubbles that stick around and litter the ground after they speak and they can also be killed through normal means, so they make copies of themselves to do dangerous stunts. In the book Roger plans to kill someone and makes a copy of himself to form an alibi but gets killed himself. Now Eddie and the Roger clone have only the few remaining speech bubbles to find out what happened to he real Roger before the copy disappears.
There's are subtle hints to Doom's true identity during the film that give him away as a toon.
- His clothing is always fluttering in the wind, no matter where he is.
- He backs up from the dip even though it wouldn't harm him if he was human.
- He never blinks on screen, and his teeth are unnaturally white.
- He always turns around dramatically, in addition when he slips on the glass eyes he does so in a comedic fashion.
- He detests laughter because it's a natural talent of any toon to cause people to laugh, he does his best to prevent it as to not blow his cover.
This was legendary at the time. Love it, my kids too!❤️🎥❤️
You should check out the behind the scenes if you're interested, it's kind of crazy how much work they put into making the cartoons interact and holding real stuff. You appreciate the movie that much more when you see it again.
The shoe getting dipped still makes me cry..
Ps. I’m 30
There will never be a movie like this ever again, my #1 favorite movie of all time! Combining live action with animation with practical effects with so many collaborations with many studios coming together thanks to the connections of Spielberg. I remember seeing this when I was 2 in the 90s and I was SCARED OUT OF MY MIND at the villian reveal scene with that horrifying voice!
Almost 35 years ago, Robert Zemeckis and Spielberg's company, Amblin were making magic.
This was the first of 3 in a row for both entities (followed by the Back to The Future sequels).
Live-action and animation collabs existed before WFRR.
But this movie would reset the bar for sure.
The basis for the movie is a novel from 1981 which was funny and much darker.
If they didn't get to license the use of the classic cartoons we know, it wouldn't have been as good of a movie, I think.
Although the title character is a cartoon, it is the star-making film of the late, great Bob Hoskins.
All the time he used an American accent in most of his movies, not many knew he was British.
All of this movie is great.
I was 8 years old and saw it twice in theaters.
It won 4 Oscars among several awards.
I'm telling you right now.
That movies like this that you witness firsthand are truly history making.
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Amblin is Speilberg's company, not Robert's, dumbass.
Robert never was an owner whatsoever.
The only time Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny worked together.
The Club where cartoons could work but not be part of the audience was a reference to the cotton club where black people could only be performers.
Judge Doom was the source of a decade of nightmares when I saw this when I was five years old.
One of the amazing accomplishments of this film was getting permission to use all of the characters that they did. If I recall correctly, the only way that Warner Brothers and Disney would agree to let them use Mickey and Bugs was if they had equal screen time. So the only time you see them was the scene when they were skydiving, and at the end.
I love this movie, and it deserves a place among the very best based on how well it pushed movies forward. (And the story is excellent, too.)
Meanwhile, your reaction at seeing Jessica Rabbit was essentially EVERYONE'S in the late 80s. LOL!
“What the hell them kids doing with cigarettes?” It was a different time.
One of the best live action animated movies ever made. The story, characters, jokes, all of it is a classic.
Bob Hoskins went insane acting in this movie. people would see him talking to things that weren’t there after filming.
Oh y lord you’re so funny😂❤ best reaction to the film yet
At the time, pre CGI, animating cartoons with live action was rediculously hard.. and with a moving camera, almost impossible... not even Disney was really up to the task, and Spielberg and Zemekis needed help pulling this off ... so they hired a ringer to direct the animation... indie Animation genius, Richard Wlliams... who could pretty much animate in Any style, and was excited by the challenge of what they wanted to pull off.
The fact that im at work already watching this movie is insane 😭😭
LET THIS BE TESTAMENT!!!!!!!!! ANYONE can punch above their weight! Just be confident, and MAKE THEM LAUGH!
Hi Mr V love your reactions. I'm catching up with all your music videos and love them. You've come a long way and you seem a lot happier. I'm so glad for you my boy. Lots of love to you and your family from me and the family in the UK.❤
36:30 I just realized watching this that Doom was "glaring daggers" at Eddy. This joke has gone completely over my head for the past 20 years! 😂
"Especially Lydie. She's got daggers for you!!!!"
-Mrs.. Doubtfire
This is one of my favorite movies ever man. I'm pretty sure I was 6 years old when my parents recorded a television broadcast of this movie on videotape (VHS). I watched it everyday as soon as I got home from school, for at least a year or so. I loved the repetition, as most kids do I guess. But I was pretty relentless, man. At least 1 year. Every single day.
I just LOVED that movie. Still do.
As a kid the violence freaked me out a bit though. Especially this first dozen times I watched it. Lol Scarred for life man 😂
"I'd like to kick it around Johnny Bravo" lmao
So, a few fun facts about Toons and other characters, and the movie in general, from the Who Framed Roger Rabbit? world:
1) Patty cake is apparently, very serious (I mean, Jessica basically "cheated" on Roger based on how heart-broken he reacted, but she wasn't doing it out of her own volition)
2) Toons react very explosively to alcohol because of how their "biology" of ink and other materials reacts to it
3) They are limited to their Toon Force and can only bend reality and do impossible feats if it's at the right moment; or how Roger says it, he could only slip out of the handcuffs "when it was funny"
4) Eddie Valiant's deceased brother, Theodore "Teddy" Valiant, had a favorite Toon and that was Betty Boop; you can see a plushie of her on Teddy's desk and it's why out of all of the Toons Eddie was the most nice to her, even smiling at her unlike all of the other Toon characters he interacts with
5) Toons' attraction is based around humor, and that's why Betty Boop called Jessica lucky for having Roger (basically, she's the one who's the "least attractive" partner out of a celebrity couple, in the eyes of Toons) and humans gaping up at Jessica during her performance, and Eddie being shocked that Roger is married to her, is because of humans' knack for attraction being on the more physical side; there's actually a head-canon of Jessica being asexual because of all of this, with her attraction to Roger's humor and her saying, "I ain't bad, I'm just drawn that way," while still having sexual relations though not because she actually felt any desire to be having them
6) 17:50 This scene was apparently a pain in the ass for the animators of the movie, because they needed Roger's shadow to make sense with the constantly swinging light in the little hide-away room
7) Speaking of the Valiants, it's very likely that Eddie and Theodore lived in Toontown itself (I wouldn't ever be able to), or at least had an office stationed there, hence why quite a few Toons knew Eddie just by appearance and why Eddie knew how to navigate Toontown very well (plus, him and his brother solving crimes for Toons and also advocating for them, most definitely helped their notoriety in the looney world). That's why Eddie was mocked at the bar by one of the drunks and why lots of other detectives would act bummed out and ask questions like, "Aren't you supposed to be Eddie Valiant?'' when it came to Toon stuff and also using Toon weapons, when he no longer worked for Toons
8) Eddie and Teddy did detective stuff for Toons because of their circus upbringing and their parents being professional clowns; the brothers kind of vibed with the Toons
9) Who Framed Roger Rabbit? is based on a book written by Gary K. Wolf (1981) called Who Censored Roger Rabbit? There are some similarities, but quite a few key differences (i.e. in the book Toons only spoke in speech bubbles that littered the place, with Jessica being an exception, and Roger and Jessica didn't have a happy marriage, etc).
10) Christopher Lloyd (the guy who acted for the evil human Toon, Judge Doom) didn't blink at all in all of his scenes, and the reason for that was because he thought it would help with the uncanniness/creepiness of Judge Doom, and also the fact that wind constantly blows cartoonishly around him was a subtlety added by the director to further the "this man can't be right" vibe
11) Eddie Murphy was originally offered the role of Eddie Valiant, but turned it down because he thought the movie would flop; Harrison Ford and Chevy Chase were also other actors first thought of before Bob Hoskins, and the director even tried to look for Bill Murray (the guy best known for voicing "live-action" 2004 Garfield) for the role but couldn't find him anywhere
12) The voice actress for Jessica Rabbit (Kathleen Turner) also voices Mr. NeberCracker's wife from Monster House, and she went uncredited as Jessica for quite a long while, for her name wasn't in the credits at all (it was a different woman who sung for her, Amy Irving, who was the only one credited in the movie)
13) No one really knows why and how Toontown exists, with some fans saying humans made them and they came to life, with others saying it's plane of existence always existed and our "animations" are them doing skits/being filmed, and big "animator" organizations were just corporations that practically bought the Toons - which is kind of fucked up (and I kind of believe in this fan theory a lot more, though it does have it's own holes)
14) Which leads to this next one: there is an undertone of racial inequality in the movie (especially with that speech that Roger gave to Eddie about the rights of Toons and the power of laughter, while standing on a soapbox) with Toons being representative of black Americans - in that they didn't have freedom in their careers at all and were forced into careers that favored middle-class white Americans
15) The cover of the song "Smile Darn Ya Smile" that we hear when Eddie returns to Toontown and at the end of the movie, was actually sung by all of the voice acting cast, physical acting cast, and animators of the movie (with the physical actors and animators singing it in their best cartoonish voices)
This film and the Back to the Future Trilogy were both directed by Robert zemeckis
The back to the future movies were also co-written by him with Bob Gale.
Why do dumbasses like you only credit directors and not the SCREENWRITERS?
Screenwriting is WAY more important than Directing.
This is my favorite movie about alcoholism
When Eddie dumps the bottle at the end it gets me every time
He didn't need it any more. He was ready to face his fears without it
I just wanna take a sec to recognize how much progress Mr Video has made on making thumbnails. You only get one chance to make an impression, and clean (and unique) thumbnail is what can draw or repulse a viewer from the content. These thumbnails have been TOP notch!
Bro appreciate that man!!
@@ITSMRVIDEO-rg9ms Hey Leo, loved the video :) Ever heard of "Honey I Shrunk the Kids"? It had a lot of practical effects and giant props for the actors to interact with, and was kind of a playful idea that they probably wouldn't make today. Just a headsup!
Oh and I almost forgot; there's also a kind of spooky but weirdly entertaining one you may like for Halloween called 'Death Becomes Her". It starred Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn --two people you'd definitely never expect. Bruce Willis is even in there too.
In a way, Jessica is lucky - sure, Roger is a silly klutz, but have you ever heard that old phrase about h**ping like rabbits? ;) ;)
She gets him behind closed doors, and I bet she sings better than on stage, LOL
Addendum: In the end, Delores is a beautiful woman in a red dress, and she could be trusted - never judge a book by its cover.
Bob Hoskins, the acttor who played "Eddie" was a very talented actor.
Watch the movie "Unleashed" with Jet Li if you haven't already - a stark contrast of character.
Mr. Video: "Who framed Roger Rabbit?"
Me: "It was me."
Mr. Video: "Gotta be a low-life type of person if you wanna try and frame a rabbit. Especially Rodger, at that."
Me: *shifty eyes, looks left, looks right. Nods* "Yeh."
It’s such a tragedy, going back and watching the old Siskel and Ebert review of this film, where they simply couldn’t stop singing its praises, and hoping that it would inspire more films like it, all while you know that in the decades since, the only movie that has tried to replicate what this movie did, with any level of success, was Space Jam.
Happytime Murders was decent.
I've been watching this movie since I was a kid. such a wonderfully entertaining movie. "no toon can resist the shave and a haircut"
And now you know why there is so much fan art of Jessica
2:20 - Just wanna take a second to point out the brand name on that oven is 'Hoteranhell.'
3:29 -This movie is a masterclass in 'Show, Don't Tell.' This 5 second shot of Eddie tells you half of what you need to know about him.
4:49 - Great Hollywood joke here. Open auditions are often referred to as a 'Cattle Call.' This shot takes it literally.
7:04 - So one of the reasons this movie was a once-in-a-lifetime event is because Warner Bros. and Disney were ACTUALLY able to hash out a deal to get all of these animated characters into the same movie. The caveat was that the biggest names (Bugs, Daffy, Mickey, Donald, etc) all had to be given equal screen time. They got around this by having the characters appear at the same time.
8:31 - Eddie: SHE'S married to Roger Rabbit?! Betty: Yeah. What a lucky goil...
11:48 - Here's another case of master-crafted non-verbal story telling. This one camera pan not only tells you the entire history of Valiant & Valiant, but it transitions you through an entire night of drinking by starting Eddie with a full bottle of scotch and ending with an empty one.
13:41- Time for one of the darkest moments in animation history.
15:40 - You missed the punchline. The Liquor Store guy knew where Eddie's apartment was.
16:39 - Although the weasels are original characters, their design is heavily influenced by the weasels in Disney's Wind in the Willows.
20:51 - This is a reference to a stage play called Harvey that came out about 2 years before this movie is supposed to take place. It's about a man who has an imaginary friend that's a 6 foot rabbit named Harvey. Jimmy Stewart stared in the movie version.
20:59 - In case you missed it, 'The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down' is the song that plays at the beginning of Looney Tunes cartoons. That's why Doom called it a 'looney' selection.
27:03 - This part didn't age well.
29:28 - The deeper joke here: 'dum dums' is the old slang term for hollow-point ammunition.
30:11 - Most paused moment in movie history. Before Disney edited it out, there was 3 or 4 frames here where you could see ALL the way up Jessica's dress.
31:40 - He STUMBBLED upon the plan.
32:00 - This plan may seem farfetched, but it's based on real history. There was a conspiracy in the mid 50s where the oil and automobile companies were clandestinely buying up and shutting down public transportation systems so that people would be forced to drive more.
33:44 - This may seem like it came out of nowhere, but if you think back to the scene at 11:48, we learned that Eddie's father was a circus clown and he and his brother grew up in the circus.
36:29 - Another (pardon the expression) blink-and-you'll-miss-it joke. Doom is 'starring daggers' at Eddie.
The amount of thought that had to go into so many scenes where the cartoons were interacting with real life is fantastic. The Jessica singing performance alone took months to animate, using several layers of optical effects to get her dress to sparkle, to make sure the stage light is hitting her just right, and of course when she is interacting with Acme and Eddie's clothes.
One of my favorite films from my childhood!