Soke used to say every technique he taught could be used in a bathroom stall or on an ice covered parking lot at night because this is where most fights happen, not in a ring or even an octagon.You may have to fight multiple attackers with no rules.These are the kinds of guys that can break a man's arm, then compound fracture it(bone through skin)then twist and rip the arm from a man's body and beat him to death with his own arm. These things were done to gain a reputation long ago.Now its KI.
Looks like somewhere near or around LaPorte. Wonder if this dojo still exits. I live in Indiana. Could be interesting to travel up there to check it out. Always enjoy checking out new arts I have no connection to.
Im sure you did, and im sure you represented your Sensei well by displaying all of the discipline, honor, tact, and professionalism of a genuine martial artist.....just as you have done in this discussion. I see you have a lot of maturing to do, EUGENE.
they kick behind the groin so the muscle where the ankle and shin connect can hit it, but the whole not feeling pain part isn't a complete art in its own its more just being aware that ur gonna get hurt and allowing ur body to be ready for it, lk have sumone punch u in the arm er sumthing and get ready for it b4 they hit, and it won't really hurt at all
I train in a style in which the highest ranking members and founder trained with Prof. S. and was sponsored by him for national reckognition. I have seen some of this first hand and it is legitimate. Being effective on the street, Id say definately. If you can take a hit, you can survive the encounter. This is hardcore training, not everyone reaches that level. A lot of those guys from the 1970's died young too. Extreme training. I wouldn't want to fight someone that can take a hit like that.
This is the power of suggestion. In one tv show a lady passed out after being kicked full bore over the heart. Her instructor said, "she was so relaxed she fell asleep" - she most likely had a transient arrhythmia. Notice they never thai kick to the head, or hit knock out zones in the brain. The rest is pain management and knowing the punch is coming. The man with 4 hits equals no head movement at impact, no chance possibility of a concussion. Testicular torsion could occur in dudes. Bad.
@woteva6891 I train in Juko Ryu Aiki Inyo Jujutsu and it is really something you must train at for years. My sensei has done some things that has really tested the human body and how much power is really inside oneself to control the feeling of pain and othe discomforts. I can tell you for a fact this is no joke and that through hard training and mental discipline you can achieve more than you ever thought possible.
this is a really good point, and the reason i favor my hung gar studies over MMA where MMA is unrealistic on many levels, one majorly is the ground fighting aspect. although many take downs,throws can and are realistic if application is taught properly, rolling witha guy on the ground in a street fight is the quickest way to get killed. thanks for pointing these things out shark, i try to explain these to UFC fans, but most cant see how MMA is less adapted for life death scenarios
Wonder what long-term damage occurs from consistent blows like that. Not much different from hard chi-gong stuff though - circus tricks really, but still quite impressive. Didn't see any 'dim-mak' there, but that's chinese anyway - Judo/ki are Japanese terms.
I'd like to see the translation of the japanese doctor's explanation, but really if this form of defense was effective in real fighting situations, you'd see it all the time in MMA, law enforcement and army training. It's obviously too good to be true.
They don't always know when or where they will be struck. Some demo's use blindfolds. Soke even blocks punches blindfolded. Sometimes at a demo, a guy like you will punch a KI-man in the face instead of the solar plex, it really makes no difference to one of his top guys or himself. What you are seeing here is a DEMO. This is by no means the limit of Soke's capability. I know one of his teachers was Shihan Soke Tomah. If I remember right he was made Soke by the Okinawan Sokeship board.
I'd like to see these guys in actual fight situation though, they have to build Qi up in that certain area, but given in a normal fight i doubt they would last being hit everywhere and in submission moves
+Dennis Curtis actually this is possible but they spend too many years to take this kind of punishment. and plus, it doesn't mean that they really can fight
These guys may have been able to take hits from him when they knew it was coming and had time to prepare, but whether or not they could do that is debateable when it comes to there being no time to prepare.
If you hit a place enough times, you can start to lose feeling in it. For example, a pro kickboxer can take more leg and body kicks than someone who has never received one, but getting hit in the jaw will still turn them out. There's a reason he wasn't taking hooks to the face.
How would Gracie deal with multiple attackers? He can't leg tackle them all and wrestle them into a submission hold for 5 or 10 minutes. How would that work in a bathroom stall? Could he leg tackle you in a bathroom stall and wrestle you into a submission hold or would he actually have to fight? How about an armed assailant? Someone with a knife maybe? What if there were no referee's and after he leg tackled the person they snapped his neck before he could wrestle them into submission for 5 min.
"Ki" doesn't protect you from anything. You can train pain tolerance, you can train muscle on most parts of your body to protect you and bones get sturdier if they get damaged. But you can never train yourself to absorb physical trauma without consequence. Cro-Cop broke two ribs on Wanderlei Silva with kicks. No ki in the world can make you absorb endless body blows, no matter what your McDojo instructor tells you. Oh and Tim, there are countries outside the United States, look it up.
well regardless of if its fake or w/e taking hits to them vital parts of the body from genki is pretty impressive i mean that foo aint a pro fighter for no reason im pretty sure he can throw a punch
Although these guys are able to take hits i think they can still get knocked out against a professional fighter in a ring or cage. ie (boxer, kick boxer and mma. They would probably be slower on their feet as well because they need a strong stable base to abosrb those attacks.
Cool party trick. I'm not volunteering though, nothing in the current MMA or fighting metagame is really pain related at all and I very much doubt that this reduces actual damage taken from heavy hits or prevents them from reducing your combat effectiveness (hence why no face/jaw demos etc.)
Genki wasn't paid for this. In fact, the Soke has a $100 bill in his pocket for anyone who can put one of his KI-Men off his feet. He has been carrying that $100 bill for 30 years, no one has collected it yet. Black Belt magazine called Soke an animal because he will fight anyone bare knuckle to the knockout. The Soke laughs at people like Genki. He calls their arts "pitter pat" Karate. Soke says if a fight lasts more than 10 seconds, neither one of you know what your doing.
You can train almost every part of your body to be tough and hard, but I don't think all that training can prepare any man to get kick like that in the groin.
Genki is awesome and while -I- agree that he's won every UFC fight his been in (all 2 of them) the judges did not feel the same way about his meeting with duane ludwig. Was a slight robbery but he technically lost none the less
@lagook but you cannot explain how it is possible and talk about Bas Rutten.Rutten also talked rubish about Aikido and Steven Seagal but the Aikido Master help the MMA Anderson the Spider win the title.....how !!!
I trained under Sensei Kevin (the guy taking throat) and Shihan Dave and under my Soki here in Ocala Fl and I know what it is all about so don't talk isht.
Soke Sacharnoski also knows Motobu Ryu Toide or Palace Hand. They trained to fight men in full armor. This is actual battlefield techniques as they were originally practiced. This is why you wont see them in UFC or K1.What is taught today is not the Karate of ancient times but sport karate. Dr. Sacharnoski,Soke is one of the few teachers today that teaches a non sport based system.Motobu Ryu(AKA Go Ten Te) is the oldest Ki art in Okinawa.Juko-Ryu techs. can be used against multiple attackers.
@Rhythmicons cuz they would lose. rickson is a master the grand master infact and he fought for prizes, and also to prove it works anyway the shaolin say this kind of thing doesnt work in real fighting but they can also do it to prove chi.... so w/e
Nothing shady. No time to prepare needed. I have seen this done in a live situation hundreds of times. No tricks or gimmicks. Soke is the first person who wasn't a member of the Okinawan Royal Family to be taught Toide, the Royal Art of Okinawan Kings. Toide is a total art, including Soke's Combat KI.Soke has put on demo's at Madison Square Garden with Heavy Weight Champ Boxers doing this. Not one of his Ki-men have ever been down. Genki found out quickly how real this is.
Dr. Rod Sacharnoski;Soke, actually trains police departments all over America in grappling and submission holds. His skills in Jujutsu and Motobu Ryu Toide are legendary and well documented. He holds multiple 8th and 9th dan rankings in Jujutsu arts. Words are cheap mueythaibaby1. You say you would "take him down ,ground and pound" because of his "poor grappling ability". Mueythaibaby you are arrogant and have no respect.IF you have ever really trained you haven't learned much. Lesson #1=respect
It's not like Sudo is known to be a hard striker. He's a light weight and he's primarily a grappler. Any other Thai boxer could deliver harder kicks and punches that would simply mangle anything physical in its way.
The guys who are doing this are all advanced students. Don't think that this is the extent of their training. All of this is supplimented with regular Karate and Jujitsu training. What you are seeing is worst case scenario, if someone manages to get in that close, if they have penetrated all of the other defenses or get caught totally off guard, they are prepared to take a hit. Anyone who has ben training 25 years in Karate has more tools than you can possibly be aware of.
You can see the guy at 2:24 is in Pain from getting hit in the throat, this is all Bullshit, hey video Idea for my channel new video title is going to be "Juko Kai" is Bullshit.
Super Dipshit:Some of Soke's students doing everything he said to them include The Dallas Cowboys,Law Enforcement Agencies Across the Country,etc. He's been on Wild World of Sports, Ripleys Beleive it or Not, been in Black Belt Magazine, Official Karate Magazine etc. 20 years ago Juko-Kai had 100,00 members. Serious practitioner? Soke holds at least 1 10th dan rank I know of. (Iaijutsu) His other ranks are all well above 5th dan.Ranks in Goju,Toide,Aiki-jujitsu,Gung-fu,Ping,Iajutsu,Judo,etc,etc
All you are seeing are these guys taking shots to vital areas and judging them solely for that. Your training should tell you that in itself is a pretty worthy feat. I doubt that you can take a full power shot to the throat or groin.
i love combat ki it is simply the most direct and visible showing of how effective a meditative can be. and genki sudo is one powerful mother.
I love Genki, he is such a nice guy
Soke used to say every technique he taught could be used in a bathroom stall or on an ice covered parking lot at night because this is where most fights happen, not in a ring or even an octagon.You may have to fight multiple attackers with no rules.These are the kinds of guys that can break a man's arm, then compound fracture it(bone through skin)then twist and rip the arm from a man's body and beat him to death with his own arm. These things were done to gain a reputation long ago.Now its KI.
is that bull from "night court"? ouch is right!
I bet these guys will still tap or nap from a well applied choke.
@Rhythmicons wonder if this stuff can prevent chokes or a knee bars...
they should let genki do his flying triangle on them....
Looks like somewhere near or around LaPorte. Wonder if this dojo still exits. I live in Indiana. Could be interesting to travel up there to check it out. Always enjoy checking out new arts I have no connection to.
The doctor later told the man who got kicked in the balls that he can no longer have children. lol.
that's awesome!!! i love genki's expressions!
I trained there at Rockford, IL while Soke Sacharnoski taught around 1985 Kang Nei Chin
I came across this video.
Im sure you did, and im sure you represented your Sensei well by displaying all of the discipline, honor, tact, and professionalism of a genuine martial artist.....just as you have done in this discussion.
I see you have a lot of maturing to do, EUGENE.
he has no balls
therefore no pain
Eu sou faixa preta desde 2007 e fã dessa fera eu acho quer ele é o melhor japonês lutador de chão quer exite valeu oss.
they kick behind the groin so the muscle where the ankle and shin connect can hit it, but the whole not feeling pain part isn't a complete art in its own its more just being aware that ur gonna get hurt and allowing ur body to be ready for it, lk have sumone punch u in the arm er sumthing and get ready for it b4 they hit, and it won't really hurt at all
I train in a style in which the highest ranking members and founder trained with Prof. S. and was sponsored by him for national reckognition. I have seen some of this first hand and it is legitimate. Being effective on the street, Id say definately. If you can take a hit, you can survive the encounter. This is hardcore training, not everyone reaches that level. A lot of those guys from the 1970's died young too. Extreme training. I wouldn't want to fight someone that can take a hit like that.
6:14 he totally felt it, the expression on that guy's face totally changed lol
@mueythaibaby1 The "ring" is not a real life situation. They have pads and rules and limitations as well.
This is the power of suggestion. In one tv show a lady passed out after being kicked full bore over the heart. Her instructor said, "she was so relaxed she fell asleep" - she most likely had a transient arrhythmia. Notice they never thai kick to the head, or hit knock out zones in the brain. The rest is pain management and knowing the punch is coming. The man with 4 hits equals no head movement at impact, no chance possibility of a concussion. Testicular torsion could occur in dudes. Bad.
@woteva6891 I train in Juko Ryu Aiki Inyo Jujutsu and it is really something you must train at for years. My sensei has done some things that has really tested the human body and how much power is really inside oneself to control the feeling of pain and othe discomforts. I can tell you for a fact this is no joke and that through hard training and mental discipline you can achieve more than you ever thought possible.
speachless.............................
this is a really good point, and the reason i favor my hung gar studies over MMA where MMA is unrealistic on many levels, one majorly is the ground fighting aspect. although many take downs,throws can and are realistic if application is taught properly, rolling witha guy on the ground in a street fight is the quickest way to get killed.
thanks for pointing these things out shark, i try to explain these to UFC fans, but most cant see how MMA is less adapted for life death scenarios
but what if he hit him with a lepords paw strike.(hitting with the quarter knuckles
Wonder what long-term damage occurs from consistent blows like that. Not much different from hard chi-gong stuff though - circus tricks really, but still quite impressive.
Didn't see any 'dim-mak' there, but that's chinese anyway - Judo/ki are Japanese terms.
I'd like to see the translation of the japanese doctor's explanation, but really if this form of defense was effective in real fighting situations, you'd see it all the time in MMA, law enforcement and army training.
It's obviously too good to be true.
They don't always know when or where they will be struck. Some demo's use blindfolds. Soke even blocks punches blindfolded. Sometimes at a demo, a guy like you will punch a KI-man in the face instead of the solar plex, it really makes no difference to one of his top guys or himself. What you are seeing here is a DEMO. This is by no means the limit of Soke's capability. I know one of his teachers was Shihan Soke Tomah. If I remember right he was made Soke by the Okinawan Sokeship board.
I'd like to see these guys in actual fight situation though, they have to build Qi up in that certain area, but given in a normal fight i doubt they would last being hit everywhere and in submission moves
So why those guys do not fight in ufc and make lot of monay???
Souly Van Too dangeroos for the UFC
+Dennis Curtis actually this is possible but they spend too many years to take this kind of punishment. and plus, it doesn't mean that they really can fight
Martial arts was never meant to be a sport
pretty amazing, all things considered..they must be extremely resilient.
Please put subtitles if you can, or someone upload the video with subtitles please!!!!
What they don't show are the hospital visits after this took place.
Yea my thoughts exactly. At best these guys are learning to increase pain tolerance, but that in itself doesn't make it a martial arts.
These guys may have been able to take hits from him when they knew it was coming and had time to prepare, but whether or not they could do that is debateable when it comes to there being no time to prepare.
Impressive? Yes.
Real? Yes.
Is it still just a parlor trick? Yes.
If you hit a place enough times, you can start to lose feeling in it. For example, a pro kickboxer can take more leg and body kicks than someone who has never received one, but getting hit in the jaw will still turn them out. There's a reason he wasn't taking hooks to the face.
Thats what i thought 2!
genki's face is priceless after he sees that first guy get blasted in the throat..
south bend....sweet, my dad used to work at Notre Dame
How would Gracie deal with multiple attackers? He can't leg tackle them all and wrestle them into a submission hold for 5 or 10 minutes. How would that work in a bathroom stall? Could he leg tackle you in a bathroom stall and wrestle you into a submission hold or would he actually have to fight? How about an armed assailant? Someone with a knife maybe? What if there were no referee's and after he leg tackled the person they snapped his neck before he could wrestle them into submission for 5 min.
Genki Sudo looked like he was having fun kicking and punching the shit out of that guy, even though he wasn't using his full force...
Looked like Genki wasn't really hitting them that hard. He's too nice to strike these old farts for real.
Juko Kai the art of being a punching bag :P
What does Sudo have to say at 6:26?
You won't see real masters fighting for a prize.
"Ki" doesn't protect you from anything. You can train pain tolerance, you can train muscle on most parts of your body to protect you and bones get sturdier if they get damaged. But you can never train yourself to absorb physical trauma without consequence. Cro-Cop broke two ribs on Wanderlei Silva with kicks. No ki in the world can make you absorb endless body blows, no matter what your McDojo instructor tells you.
Oh and Tim, there are countries outside the United States, look it up.
power of focused Chi shield.Sugoi Genki san
well regardless of if its fake or w/e taking hits to them vital parts of the body from genki is pretty impressive i mean that foo aint a pro fighter for no reason im pretty sure he can throw a punch
Although these guys are able to take hits i think they can still get knocked out against a professional fighter in a ring or cage. ie (boxer, kick boxer and mma. They would probably be slower on their feet as well because they need a strong stable base to abosrb those attacks.
i understood he felt no damage.
But, after this shooting, what did he feel?
Like a adrenaline??
Cool party trick. I'm not volunteering though, nothing in the current MMA or fighting metagame is really pain related at all and I very much doubt that this reduces actual damage taken from heavy hits or prevents them from reducing your combat effectiveness (hence why no face/jaw demos etc.)
Ultimate defence: block your fist with my face.
what's the song that starts playing at 5:30?
Genki wasn't paid for this. In fact, the Soke has a $100 bill in his pocket for anyone who can put one of his KI-Men off his feet. He has been carrying that $100 bill for 30 years, no one has collected it yet. Black Belt magazine called Soke an animal because he will fight anyone bare knuckle to the knockout. The Soke laughs at people like Genki. He calls their arts "pitter pat" Karate. Soke says if a fight lasts more than 10 seconds, neither one of you know what your doing.
You can train almost every part of your body to be tough and hard, but I don't think all that training can prepare any man to get kick like that in the groin.
yeah GREAT STYLE!! let your opponent hit you as many times as he wants while u stand there
Genki is awesome and while -I- agree that he's won every UFC fight his been in (all 2 of them) the judges did not feel the same way about his meeting with duane ludwig. Was a slight robbery but he technically lost none the less
they should get Peter Aerts to do those kicks:P
Its not realistic, but stil a realy cool trick.
I second this. Plus, all of this is nice, but how come none of those guys are MMA champs? Just a thought.
this is not bull do you have any idea who genki sudo is? he is a really good and popular k1 kick boxing fighter.
how the heck they did that. Their ribs should have broken after taken so many kicks
What I mean is useing fingers to grab the balls then pinch them to smash. like grinding.
I think it was in japan (which is why they translated it )
lol so true. i've seen true hard chi kung but you could tell he's just holding it in. Look at his face on 6 23. Themans in pain hahaha
power of focused Chi shield
Slow meditation and knowing the limits of your body and mind, that is how it works. Practice any discipline and you too can become a master. N/S ;-)
I think I'm gonna keep trainning to avoid being kicked in the groin or punched in the throat, I'd rather be evasive and intact than macho and in pain!
hehe
they learn to keep the balls inwards,
kinda like how the shaolin monks do it
@lagook
but you cannot explain how it is possible and talk about Bas Rutten.Rutten also talked rubish about Aikido and Steven Seagal but the Aikido Master help the MMA Anderson the Spider win the title.....how !!!
Only in the united states...i wonder if this gym is from Utah?
My turn! *puts on a gi choke*
Oh shit you're still not going to sleep...
This seems more like conditioning then actual fighting.
Condition your throat to the best your opponents can throw.
If that's not fighting, I don't know what is.
I trained under Sensei Kevin (the guy taking throat) and Shihan Dave and under my Soki here in Ocala Fl and I know what it is all about so don't talk isht.
What are you going to do if I do talk crap? Stand and let me kick you in the groin a few more times until my leg gets exhausted?
Ffs! UFC 1 was almost 15 years ago! God! Havent you got a vcr yet?
Soke Sacharnoski also knows Motobu Ryu Toide or Palace Hand. They trained to fight men in full armor. This is actual battlefield techniques as they were originally practiced. This is why you wont see them in UFC or K1.What is taught today is not the Karate of ancient times but sport karate. Dr. Sacharnoski,Soke is one of the few teachers today that teaches a non sport based system.Motobu Ryu(AKA Go Ten Te) is the oldest Ki art in Okinawa.Juko-Ryu techs. can be used against multiple attackers.
@Rhythmicons cuz they would lose. rickson is a master the grand master infact and he fought for prizes, and also to prove it works
anyway the shaolin say this kind of thing doesnt work in real fighting
but they can also do it to prove chi.... so w/e
Crazy. I wouldn´t want to be Genki´s living HeavyBag. :)
if u are really strong, BE champion of UFC!
THATS IT!
Anybody notice that no one is taking a shot to the face?
I don't think genki originally believed it until he hit them...Ki is an energy that can do 'anything'. =/ Its kinda like "the force" in star wars.
does anyone else notice the guy is bracing for the impact and moving back slowly. especially obvious during the crotch kicks.
Lol his face is priceless
Combat KI = Anti nuts punch
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Nothing shady. No time to prepare needed. I have seen this done in a live situation hundreds of times. No tricks or gimmicks. Soke is the first person who wasn't a member of the Okinawan Royal Family to be taught Toide, the Royal Art of Okinawan Kings. Toide is a total art, including Soke's Combat KI.Soke has put on demo's at Madison Square Garden with Heavy Weight Champ Boxers doing this. Not one of his Ki-men have ever been down. Genki found out quickly how real this is.
dim mak is acupuncture point and chi energy
Dr. Rod Sacharnoski;Soke, actually trains police departments all over America in grappling and submission holds. His skills in Jujutsu and Motobu Ryu Toide are legendary and well documented. He holds multiple 8th and 9th dan rankings in Jujutsu arts. Words are cheap mueythaibaby1. You say you would "take him down ,ground and pound" because of his "poor grappling ability". Mueythaibaby you are arrogant and have no respect.IF you have ever really trained you haven't learned much. Lesson #1=respect
6:20 "pretty good, thank you." AHahahahAHAHAH!!
It's not like Sudo is known to be a hard striker. He's a light weight and he's primarily a grappler.
Any other Thai boxer could deliver harder kicks and punches that would simply mangle anything physical in its way.
The guys who are doing this are all advanced students. Don't think that this is the extent of their training. All of this is supplimented with regular Karate and Jujitsu training. What you are seeing is worst case scenario, if someone manages to get in that close, if they have penetrated all of the other defenses or get caught totally off guard, they are prepared to take a hit.
Anyone who has ben training 25 years in Karate has more tools than you can possibly be aware of.
big ballers
Imagine bruce lee's side kick
thats so unreal
...i think thats the first time i heard someone saythank you after gettin their balls kicked"lol.
Funny how u never see any of these guys in MMA or any combat sport for that matter.
say that to the shaolin monks
Holly crap!...after this I don't like Genki anymore; how much would this guys have paid him?
That's crazy but let's get cro cop in there. See them take the left kick!!!
You can see the guy at 2:24 is in Pain from getting hit in the throat, this is all Bullshit, hey video Idea for my channel new video title is going to be "Juko Kai" is Bullshit.
5:21 WHY!!???!??!
最後の急所蹴りいたそうだった🤭
Super Dipshit:Some of Soke's students doing everything he said to them include The Dallas Cowboys,Law Enforcement Agencies Across the Country,etc. He's been on Wild World of Sports, Ripleys Beleive it or Not, been in Black Belt Magazine, Official Karate Magazine etc. 20 years ago Juko-Kai had 100,00 members. Serious practitioner? Soke holds at least 1 10th dan rank I know of. (Iaijutsu) His other ranks are all well above 5th dan.Ranks in Goju,Toide,Aiki-jujitsu,Gung-fu,Ping,Iajutsu,Judo,etc,etc
All you are seeing are these guys taking shots to vital areas and judging them solely for that. Your training should tell you that in itself is a pretty worthy feat. I doubt that you can take a full power shot to the throat or groin.