The Thrawn movie is gonna be wild and Im here for it. We could get swarming night sister zombies crashing into lines of Mandalorians while the cloned Zilo beast goes head to head with the Mythosour! What ever we get I'm excited
They pretty much have to bring Merrin into live action at this point. Merrin is a powerful force sensitive Nightsister that regularly returns to Dathomir to replenish her ichor supply. The Great Mothers going to Dathomir to rebuild their Witch Kingdom seems like a very obvious way to introduce Merrin. Merrin should be able to sense the Great Mothers going to Dathomir.
@@SwaggerLikeUz It is possible that Merrin might die in the 3rd game but that's really unlikely. The actress is in her mid-30's, I'm pretty sure they could age her up to mid-40's.
@@jiffypoo5029 I agree! I also love how Dave Filoni and even Jon Favreau say they watch these kinds of fan made videos, the theories, podcasts, etc. So they know what fans are thinking, hate and fans want etc. Cal and Merrin are very popular and they fandom if done right would love explode if they made the jump to live action.
Am I the only one who's low-key rooting for Thrawn? In a lot of ways, he almost reminds me of Napoleon: an extremely competent leader who gets defeated and exiled far away. Now he's returning to reclaim his position and settle the score. Thrawn is probably the only "bad guy" who I'd be seriously tempted join. Vive L'Empereur!
Maybe he is the greater good that perfects the New Republic into a fully capable great balanced Galactic Government from its current ignorant corrupted Demilitarised form and make way to a Legends era
I find almost fun how much in common has Thrawn's current situation not only with Julius Caesar after his time in the Gaelic lands but also with the history of my country (Spain) during the past century. Here we also stablished a Republic after making the tyrannical king run away for the country, but its first steps were very convoluted. There was this militar council working against it in the same way than the Shadow one, and then this general (Franco) who spent his entire career fighting far away of the country in one of the hardest batterfields of that time, having and entire army of mauled soldiers and foreing troops like Thrawn with his Night Troopers and his Nightsisters caskets. The coup plotting militar council gave Franco the way to coming back to the country, and he obliterated the spanish army, the civil volunteers and even his own allies, showing how dangerous could be the colission between a stranded army totally devoted to war in the most harsh way and civil population. That ended with 40 years of militar dictatorship in our country through Franco, and now watching Thrawn coming back from Peridea is almost like seeing Caesar coming back to Rome from Galia or Franco to Spain from North Africa, and that kind of colission never ends well
The thing that blows my mind about traveling to another galaxy is the possibility of a whole separate structure and new stories. Does this other galaxy have a completely different political system if one has even formed in that galaxy. The possibilities are literally endless.
Yup! And the Great Mothers of Peridia still remember what a Jedi smells like, after millenia. Which means the Jedi fought the Night Sisters there long ago!
Correct but Dave will not be using any of it. He only uses the entire new galaxy as a plot device to explain why Thrawn did not return earlier. When we were finally shown Peridia, it was underwhelming. Nothing new. Nothing there that could not have been found in the original Galaxy.
@andrewozzy your right! None of these characters were in The Sequels, perhaps they all end up fighting new threats or factions who migrated to the new Galaxy millennia ago. I also believe Thrawn won't be the true villain in the end.
Id be curious of splinter groups of sith or even jedi that just might of stayed in the other galaxy and would have just been there for thousands of years. What would they look like now, what would they call themselves etc entirely new groups on force sensitives that may share commonalities with the known groups but just went their own way. That would be pretty wild to me.
It's started to occur to me that the Night Sisters who are often considered "bad guys" despite not being part of the Jedi/Sith or Empire/Republic conflict could also have a "light" and "dark" faction perhaps even a gray, in-between faction as even the other two have people in the middle like Baylan or even Dr. Pershing. Also, I imagine if you have a giant stone Keep, you probably don't need to hang bodies in stinky flesh bags. These sisters probably have nice clean freezers for extended storage.
That was more due to the Legends thing where the Night Sisters were, essentially, the fallen witches compared to the rest of the Dathomiri witch clans. The majority of those clans seemed to be more of a grey group considering everything...and the nightsisters were essentially bands of their exiles who refused to correct their actions/behavior. Didn't help that Gethzerian ended up being one of Palpatine's groupies and allied herself with Zsinj...who was also planning on betraying her.
Yeah I remember watching a video were it indicated that there had been a split in amongst the witches and the Dathomir Night sisters. I wasn’t sure if it was Legends or Cannon, thanks.
If those coffins are more of his dead staff that they’ll use to revive as undead, this could be a nasty plan. Edit: well, guess the stormtroopers aren’t undead.
@@NewSquallor to be fair, they were heavily outnumbered too. A war of attrition with the CIS doesn’t usually fair well. Though this is Thrawn we’re talking about. He probably has a specific plan for this.
Alan I gotta say dude your a rare gem in this community.Your intelligent and have integrity. I never see any click bait view grabbing titles,videos or thumbnails.Just well thought out intelligent content. Keep up the great work.
The "new" Nightsisters we met, are the ancestors. Elsbeth said this was where they, the ancestors of the Nightsisters if Dathomir, originated from. That they came over to the SW Galaxy "riding the purgil".
Thanks for a great video, It was really sad when a whole population of the Night Sisters was killed, with their very specific way of using force, and it was sad again when Ezra and Maul didn't let them resurrect. Same as killing the surviving Geonosian queen. They don't use either the light or dark side of the force specifically, and they have their own plan. Hope to see them as a powerful and independent power, competing with Republic, Mandalorians, and Empire leftovers. It's an exciting way of expanding the Star Wars universe.
I like the Great Mothers being the canon version of Jorus C'Baoth from the old Thrawn books. C'Baoth was the one thing about the old Thrawn books I didn't like.
Nope , I strongly believe that the great power Bailen and Shin are searching on Peredia is Indeed dark Jedi Master(assumed) Jorrus Sabayoth (original , not cloned yet) the idealogy of a beginning a new Jedi order feels same . Also their Outbound flight is a Intergalactic Interstellar exploration right , with folklore of Peredia too , why not Peredia where the Jedi exploration has taken place and stopped , even Nightsister mothers are afraid of such chaotic evil Jedi
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 Nightsisters are terrified of Jedi, it makes sense. Nightsisters get force choked before they can finish their incantation and Jedi can resist their control. Jedi are pretty brutal with force combat compared to the Nightsisters and like to genocide darksiders.
Allen, thank you for bringing in some anthropology ("alien-pology") concepts into your videos. Your stuff is edutainment and has "real" world applications. I am not sure why you hate dolphins but you are right, these mammals can be dangerous like primates. I saw a recent report where a group of dolphins killed a porpoise and the attack is not due to predation.
Mother Talzin is legit an underrated and very interesting character, especially when it comes to the people she cares about. At the one hand she doesnt seem to care at all about outsiders (lets not forget she was gonna sacrifice Jar Jar's girlfriend for a ritual) nor the males of her clan (her two other sons Savage and Feral included) like at all, hell when her clan was pretty much wiped out she didnt seem all that bothered by it. However on the other hand she did seem to genuinely love Maul (even tho he was just another male by Dark Sister colture),to the point she even sacrificed her life to keep him safe and she even went out of her way to guide Ventress and even backed up her assasination attempt on Dooku, even tho it could bring attention to her planet (and it did). It really begs the question. Why did Ventress and Maul seemed to be so much special to her?
I really liked how both the Clone Wars and Rebels showed that there were other Force using factions besides the Jedi and Sith. I think the Dathomiri magic is different based on whatever planet they're on. The Peridia witches use artifacts similar in appearance to the star map. Maybe they need the spirits of their ancestors to work their magic. So these are most likely coffins. I think the Night Troopers are just one example of what the Nightsisters can do and those capsules are the next version of fighters.
I think those coffins contain the Nightwolves, of course. They tap into the mystic Wolfhowl energy that permeates the universe and are led by Red "Red Wolf" Wolf, a new character that will become the most important character in Star Wars probably.
Perfect! The Chosen One prophesy was really referring to Anakin's half brother (on his father's side, make of that what you will), Red Wolf "Red Wolf" the red wolf all along. With special appearances by Trapper Wolf, the resurrected Wolfpack clones, and Shistavanen "Wolfman" Jack (the famous galactic radio host) all riding Loth Wolves.
I feel if the night sisters are getting the heck off planet and bringing their remains with them they could be controlling the night troopers as the red ribbons act as tethers to control them. Could be a plan to bring back the mother from the dead
I think it's pretty clear from the dialog they are Dathomiry night sisters whose ancestors migrated from Dathomir. The temples on this planet were part of a great "Dathomiry Witch" civilization, according to Baylen. Morgan says her ancestors were the first to harness the purgill for intergalactic travel to the planet from the SW galaxy. There's no reason to think they came from anywhere else other than Dathomir.
All this talk about the Nightsisters made me wonder what is going to happen if Mother Talzin successfully assassinated Count Dooku? How will this impacted the Clones Wars and everyone involved in it?
What if every one of those bodies ends up being stronger than the Dathomer zombies? Heck, what if each one is a full on Inquistor grade force adept (if Nightsister trained rather than dark jedi). In those sort of numbers... that... would legitimately be a terrifying force.
There is still a section of the loathal Jedi temple that contains some sort of force portal in one of the chimera’s cargo bays. I wonder if Thrawn reassembled it. Or, more likely, Feloni forgot it was there.
IIRC, Ezra destroyed it to prevent Palpatine from using it, and without Palpatines guidance on force artifacts, it seems unlikely that Thrawn himself would have rebuilt it.
There is that current rumor that Filoni and Kennedy have a plan here. The Ahsoka series and the movie to finish the story off are, supposedly, going to see the Witches cast a spell that destroys the Force meaning no Jedi, no Sith, no Force users ever again and the only magic will be the Night Sisters.
but can we talk about how thrawn and ezra even survived? like at the end of rebels the windows were fully shattered, which means they were literally just in space during the purrgil hyperspace jump
They might not be actually zombies, the pods remind me of Han Solo in Carbonite if you look at the end of them you can see a electronic control panel, it might just be for the repulsorlift functions so those could be living Nightsisters and Brother in there.
I'm pretty sure the Dathomiri are a hybrid. Rattataki/Zabrak mixed with seeming gender focusing on different things which is why there's the gender dimorphism there
Beat me to it. Well...the folks on Dathomir (nightsisters and night brothers). The Dathomiri being the whale riding ancestors. And are they only 3 witches on Peridea? Something on that planet is causing trouble. I hope episode 7 tells us what else is there.
@@BitigoBlack I'm, kind of, wondering if Ezra woke something up due to Jedi training and that goes to an all hell breaking loose situation. Not even blaming him, but with Baylan commenting about feeling something calling him...well, Ezra isn't that experienced and, well, Jedi are taught to trust in the force...so something using that as a lure seems like it would make him a big target there. It might also explain a LOT about Thrawn's view on Jedi there.
Do you think the ISD can dock in the middel of the Hyper Space Ring like an jedi fighter? Why else would they load everything on the ISD. The ring also did not look like it had any significant Space dedicated to cargo ore personal .
Ive liked all the SW shows, to some degree or another, but this one is the first where I feel like they are growing the universe more than ever, and I am excited to see how the last two episodes develop. I really hope that they make season 2 much quicker.
@@ellieciasca I dont really care one way or another. Both sides are entitled. For all i care they can never make another show again, ill just keep reading the books .
From now on I will consider BT pairing like an initiation ritual. With how long it takes and how flaky some Bluetooth connections can be, it checks out...
I couldn't help but think project blackwing, especially when they say there is a darker force they are running from. The caskets could contain bodies from the infected individuals.. definitely a long shot, one can only wish.
More over, the idea of thrawn valuing all life, even viral infections could also have a say. Especially with the cloning project he is to set up, the possibility to generate hundreds of clones who could be used as a host sounds interesting
@GenerationTech Thank you O'technological one for gracing me with you acknowledgement. This has shown me a path of enjoyment for the rest of the night. :>
Yo. Allen do you think those nightsisters caskets. Are carrying very important high-ranking nightsisters bodies , do you remember that episode in the clone wars animated series we're Mace windu went with jar jar Binks to find out why the night sisters where taking these force-sensitive spirits in a spear to revive the nightsister mother Towson. Maybe thrawn at will take the night sisters back to Dathomir so they can be revived by taking other souls like they did in clone wars using those sphears
Great Mothers still remember what a Jedi smells like after millenia - that is the top of an iceberg lore drop: Jedi fought the Night Sisters in another galaxy long ago!h Add in all Baylan's 'old Jedi tales' lines and maybe the story Huyang is telling Ahsoka is about this time.
the caskets probably have dead bodies and there are a great number of dead bodies and Filoni could be planning on doing a Star Wars Zombie series (too long to be a movie) and the Space Witches bringing people back to life is the key to the new Zombie story Rated R duh duh duhnnn (noise for dramatic effect)
Idk peeps keep talking about this new galaxy. Everyone forgetting the plan is to go back? This new galaxy thing only works if.... thrawn talks the nighchicks back to exagol and they raise palps who later ultimately wins, so we solidify the disney trilogy which retconned George's work.... and.... Ezra, Sabine, Ahsoka, Baylin and Shin all get trapped in the new galaxy and now we can focus on their adventures at the Disney trilogy will have been set up so we can forget about it because we know where it ends.
Dark Disciple, is one of my favourite SW books. A fantastic recommendation. Staring two of, in my opinion, the best and most underused characters in Ventress and Voss.
Mother tounslin was way stronger, then these three! Just watch what she does! She is absolutely amazing! I think dathmoir was filled with what they needed, more then this planet!
What if the night sister zombies turn out to be the dark side worshippers on Exegol that help Palpatine return? Maybe dark magick combines with cloning to help in a resurrection of sorts? And... staff all those star destroyers too. I know the nightsisters are no fans of the Sith, but I could easily see an alliance be worked out through Thrawn. Just a thought...
Fck the sequels , even Disney's acknowledges it fckd up , 2 directors with overarching completely different ideology and storylines and goals and a destructive hatred filled competition between them , No Creativity and new concepts or ships , and real world socio political trash .... That's just 1% of the reasons .the only future star wars has is the one without sequels
I just hate having to wait a week everytime for an episode. I wish they would just release all of them at once. I feel like it might even work better for them if they do that, bc a lot of times ppl will get “upset” that what they were wanting/waiting to happen didn’t happen in the newest episode. But if they just released it all at once there would be no complaints bc it’s just one part after another. The thing with these Star Wars shows is they’re basically just longer movies cut into parts, so if they just release sit all together some of those parts that “don’t make sense or are random” (to some ppl) wouldn’t have as much of an impact on the reviews.
@alecjoncas7764 fair statement. At the same time fans today are very lucky. Back in the day we didn't have a scintilla of the content fandoms are privy too now. We had to wait a whole week and sometimes a decade for another entry. Patience my fellow Star War's fan - Yoda 🙏
What if we have it all wrong what if when Thron made it to the new planet the night sisters attacked them that might explain the damaged armor and the war made them see eye to eye of some sorts and the boxes are the body’s of the fallen night sisters. Understanding that might explain why the trooper’s armor was so destroyed and they used a art the Japanese used to fix broken plates but to the armor and the night sisters gave Thron the tape/ fabric to boost the trooper’s ability’s.
Far fetched but plausible , but I don't think so ..... They clearly fought some other thing , that both Thrawn and Night Mother's fear to leave quickly , and Bailen and shin are searching to find that great power
I think you could make a video about the how the distinction between the night sisters and Jedi/Sith. Primarily collective powers vs individual powers. The average member of Sith or Jedi is a trained warrior competent in their use of the force while an average night sister is pretty weak in comparison.
What if those things are like stasis chambers? And that after they got stuck there they put most of their sisters into stasis until they could escape the planet
@@GenerationTech yeah the fact that they were in a place called "catacombs" makes that a high posibility too Though i wonder whats in those things, nightsisters, some original version of night brothers, or something else entirely?
I’ve enjoyed the Disney+ content, both Star Wars & Marvel, but Ahsoka is the first one that really felt like Star Wars to me. Andor is great, but it lacked the mysticism that I think is key to Star Wars; after all, it’s a space fantasy, not science fiction. Kenobi had it, but it was just not there for me. Ahsoka is a complete package. It’s got the silly/goofy/campy parts, it’s got the action, it’s got the mysticism, it’s got the space wizard magics. I really hope it finishes well.
At this point in time in the Star Wars galaxy, there is a force power vacuum. A vacuum that needs to be filled. Thrawn's ship is a colonization vessel as this faction of the Sisterhood will repopulate this part the Star Wars galaxy. Wouldn't be surprised if there were more than one ritual of resurrection.
I always thought Ventress was cool asf, she got shafted in life but I don’t think she was truly evil, she could have been brought to the light. Great video, thanks man
My heart wants space vampires But Im pretty sure its what is left of the OG Night Sisters species The omes on Dathomir are like their hillbilly cousin's
It is a little confusing why exactly the Night Sisters have this deal with Thrawn. It is mentioned in the last episode that the Sisters used the space whales in the past to go to other galaxies, such as the Star Wars one, so they shouldn't need Thrawn and the Chimera to escape that planet. It is also stated that the Night Sisters reached out to Morgan Elsbeth to come to them, so again, Morgan has that big ship which can get the Night Sisters to our galaxy. So then what does Thrawn have to bargain with if not transport out of there? The only thing that made sense was that Thrawn could unite the shattered elements of the Empire still existing and so give the Sisters a power base to operate from. If so then my theory on the deal they made is that the Sisters are giving Thrawn their undead to fill out more Trooper armor and make his army bigger. For right now they gave him just enough bodies to operate the Chimera and have a small unit of troopers if he needed them. But once back in the Star Wars galaxy and set up they will give him the rest, those in the canisters, to fill out his army.
I think it is Thrawns Tactical genius that they needed in order for Morgan Elizabeth to successfully make the super Hyperspace ring ship Eye of Scion , really super star destroyer hyperdrive engines need very very very thought process to acquire from both new republic and imperial remnants too and the designs , and I think that the Peredia is now a graveyard so nothing goes back or comes back eturns to the Star wars galaxy
Star Wars characters introduced in television animation: -Boba Fett (1978 Holiday Special) -General Greivous-(Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars) -Ahsoka Tano-(Filoni’s Clone Wars) -Saw Gerrera-(Filoni’s Clone Wars) Cad Bane-(Filoni’s Clone Wars) Filoni is the Heir to the Empire but maybe we could bring back Tartakovsky?? Live Action Visions? 100 years after Rey…Chiss vs. Mandalorians?
I wonder if the night sisters will be synonymous with the nogri. Thrawn did something to their planet to force them to help them out of necessity’s. They will eventually find out and that will be his undoing
With the hindsight of episode 8 I think I can make some more precise counts to thrawn current troop strength. There is one shot in episode 8 in which you can actually see the whole hangar full of those coffins- if I count correctly i came up with 5,760 coffins arranged in a regular grid and then some more stacked into the alkoves on the side, so I'd say we have 8,000 to 10,000 coffins on board. Thgen we have the troops Thrwan brought with him from Lothal: one Legion of Stormtroopers (now Nighttroopers), about 10k man - minus some which might have fallen victim to Ezra, Ahsoka, Sabine And or the general circumstances of their long exile. So give that another 8,000. The night troopers, as far as we know, can be revived at least one time by the great mothers, so I will count them twice. Thrawns contingent of TIE fighters, shuttles and heavy mechanized infantry might have survived the waiting time almost untouched, which - with a little luck - goes also for their crew. They are also enforced by a small to medium sized mercenary force that Elsbeth, Hati and Skoll brought from Seatos and some officer corps, special forces, personal bodyguards and so on, so add another maybe 4-5,000 persons from that. The medical personnel, deck watch, gunners, machinists and so on (the onboard crew) of the star destroyer might as well have survived more or less completely. THey are a bit hard to count, however, as Jedipedia gives no clear answer about wether the Chimera was Imerium class I or II, which maeans either 20-30k or (in case of Imperium II clas) even up to 40k personnel. So in the worst case (for the new republic, that is) we might have a combat force of between 33,000 and up to 80,000 (in the absolute worst case) men on board.
So, a few head-scratching points; - Morgan said "I've seen the catacombs, it will take some time" in ref to Thrawn stating they'll load the 'caskets' onboard his ship. When did she have the chance for that little visit? - There seems to be a LOT of these caskets. As we've yet to see any other Night Sisters other than the three "Great Mothers", where might the rest be and what by chance killed so MANY of them to require so many caskets? There must be something VERY powerful here to kill so many. You would think Thrawn might have mentioned that to Baylan. - It would seem Peridea is VERY strong with the Force but until/unless Filoni shows us what he has living here, It's very confusing what's been killing off/wounding Thrawn's remaining troopers (they all look like they've been engaged in recent skirmishes) and has decimated the Night Sisters. - another possibility, is these caskets are holding not dead NS bodies but actually live NS in stasis. Put there perhaps due to such low resources on the planet. Mind, Who built this huge temple complex (labour wise) and to what end? - if we travel "home" next episode, these questions may not get answered for a VERY long time.
Dathomiri being extragalactic in origin should CLEARLY debunk any further deranged misinformation about zabraks resident on dathomir being any kind of blood relative. Zabraks are Zabraks, whether from Irdonia or settled on Dathomir, and being CALLED a Nightbrother in no way makes you a Dathomirian offshoot. Several species in the SWU are genetically close enough to interbreed, but do not conflate those populations that share worlds. (Like Quarren and MonCalamari)
UNDEAD NIGHTSISTERS!
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DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER. MASS HYSTERIA!
The Thrawn movie is gonna be wild and Im here for it. We could get swarming night sister zombies crashing into lines of Mandalorians while the cloned Zilo beast goes head to head with the Mythosour! What ever we get I'm excited
@@ryanscanlon2151there ain't no cloned zillo i think anymore xd
@@cernstormrunner7263ok, I get it! But, what if you're wrong?
They pretty much have to bring Merrin into live action at this point. Merrin is a powerful force sensitive Nightsister that regularly returns to Dathomir to replenish her ichor supply. The Great Mothers going to Dathomir to rebuild their Witch Kingdom seems like a very obvious way to introduce Merrin. Merrin should be able to sense the Great Mothers going to Dathomir.
Great theory! That narrative needs to be incumbent on Jedi Fallen Order's trilogy outline and or writers.
@@SwaggerLikeUz It is possible that Merrin might die in the 3rd game but that's really unlikely. The actress is in her mid-30's, I'm pretty sure they could age her up to mid-40's.
I'm quite positive Cal and Merrin are dead at this point
@@alexanderjakubowski5673that’s a stretch, they would have to be killed off, it’s only been like 10-15 years lol
@@jiffypoo5029 I agree! I also love how Dave Filoni and even Jon Favreau say they watch these kinds of fan made videos, the theories, podcasts, etc. So they know what fans are thinking, hate and fans want etc. Cal and Merrin are very popular and they fandom if done right would love explode if they made the jump to live action.
Am I the only one who's low-key rooting for Thrawn?
In a lot of ways, he almost reminds me of Napoleon: an extremely competent leader who gets defeated and exiled far away. Now he's returning to reclaim his position and settle the score. Thrawn is probably the only "bad guy" who I'd be seriously tempted join.
Vive L'Empereur!
Maybe he is the greater good that perfects the New Republic into a fully capable great balanced Galactic Government from its current ignorant corrupted Demilitarised form and make way to a Legends era
The same feeling man, he should become something
I expect them to succeed to get back to the starwars galaxy and possibly build up thrawn for season two or a feature film.
I find almost fun how much in common has Thrawn's current situation not only with Julius Caesar after his time in the Gaelic lands but also with the history of my country (Spain) during the past century. Here we also stablished a Republic after making the tyrannical king run away for the country, but its first steps were very convoluted. There was this militar council working against it in the same way than the Shadow one, and then this general (Franco) who spent his entire career fighting far away of the country in one of the hardest batterfields of that time, having and entire army of mauled soldiers and foreing troops like Thrawn with his Night Troopers and his Nightsisters caskets. The coup plotting militar council gave Franco the way to coming back to the country, and he obliterated the spanish army, the civil volunteers and even his own allies, showing how dangerous could be the colission between a stranded army totally devoted to war in the most harsh way and civil population. That ended with 40 years of militar dictatorship in our country through Franco, and now watching Thrawn coming back from Peridea is almost like seeing Caesar coming back to Rome from Galia or Franco to Spain from North Africa, and that kind of colission never ends well
The thing that blows my mind about traveling to another galaxy is the possibility of a whole separate structure and new stories. Does this other galaxy have a completely different political system if one has even formed in that galaxy. The possibilities are literally endless.
Yup! And the Great Mothers of Peridia still remember what a Jedi smells like, after millenia. Which means the Jedi fought the Night Sisters there long ago!
Correct but Dave will not be using any of it. He only uses the entire new galaxy as a plot device to explain why Thrawn did not return earlier.
When we were finally shown Peridia, it was underwhelming. Nothing new. Nothing there that could not have been found in the original Galaxy.
@andrewozzy your right! None of these characters were in The Sequels, perhaps they all end up fighting new threats or factions who migrated to the new Galaxy millennia ago. I also believe Thrawn won't be the true villain in the end.
Id be curious of splinter groups of sith or even jedi that just might of stayed in the other galaxy and would have just been there for thousands of years. What would they look like now, what would they call themselves etc entirely new groups on force sensitives that may share commonalities with the known groups but just went their own way. That would be pretty wild to me.
It's started to occur to me that the Night Sisters who are often considered "bad guys" despite not being part of the Jedi/Sith or Empire/Republic conflict could also have a "light" and "dark" faction perhaps even a gray, in-between faction as even the other two have people in the middle like Baylan or even Dr. Pershing. Also, I imagine if you have a giant stone Keep, you probably don't need to hang bodies in stinky flesh bags. These sisters probably have nice clean freezers for extended storage.
That was more due to the Legends thing where the Night Sisters were, essentially, the fallen witches compared to the rest of the Dathomiri witch clans. The majority of those clans seemed to be more of a grey group considering everything...and the nightsisters were essentially bands of their exiles who refused to correct their actions/behavior.
Didn't help that Gethzerian ended up being one of Palpatine's groupies and allied herself with Zsinj...who was also planning on betraying her.
Yeah I remember watching a video were it indicated that there had been a split in amongst the witches and the Dathomir Night sisters. I wasn’t sure if it was Legends or Cannon, thanks.
They are witches, ofc they are dark there aren’t good wiches thats an oxymoron
Their like Honored Matres/Bene Gesserit from dune!
If those coffins are more of his dead staff that they’ll use to revive as undead, this could be a nasty plan.
Edit: well, guess the stormtroopers aren’t undead.
given how easily the undead nightsisters died to droids, it's a dumb plan.
@@NewSquallor to be fair, they were heavily outnumbered too. A war of attrition with the CIS doesn’t usually fair well. Though this is Thrawn we’re talking about. He probably has a specific plan for this.
@@NewSquallorYou know who also died easily by droids? The best soldiers of the Republic.
too many of our brothers....@@Agherosh
Or project Blackwing hosts/bodies?
Alan I gotta say dude your a rare gem in this community.Your intelligent and have integrity.
I never see any click bait view grabbing titles,videos or thumbnails.Just well thought out intelligent content.
Keep up the great work.
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Cosign on everything you said
The "new" Nightsisters we met, are the ancestors. Elsbeth said this was where they, the ancestors of the Nightsisters if Dathomir, originated from. That they came over to the SW Galaxy "riding the purgil".
Seeing all the Ventress clips from Clone Wars with Mother Talzin and the Nightsisters makes me want to rewatch those episodes yet again
Just rewatched “Massacre” … episode where Grievous attacks, Damnn it was sooo good
Thanks for a great video,
It was really sad when a whole population of the Night Sisters was killed, with their very specific way of using force, and it was sad again when Ezra and Maul didn't let them resurrect.
Same as killing the surviving Geonosian queen.
They don't use either the light or dark side of the force specifically, and they have their own plan.
Hope to see them as a powerful and independent power, competing with Republic, Mandalorians, and Empire leftovers.
It's an exciting way of expanding the Star Wars universe.
The Nightsisters, Star Wars Necrons.
I love when the necromancy archetype is played with, especially when portrayed as being morally gray
I like the Great Mothers being the canon version of Jorus C'Baoth from the old Thrawn books. C'Baoth was the one thing about the old Thrawn books I didn't like.
Joruus* 🤓
Ironically, the Jedi Survivor games had Taron Mailcos as a sort of Joruss 2.0.
That didn’t make sense
Nope , I strongly believe that the great power Bailen and Shin are searching on Peredia is Indeed dark Jedi Master(assumed) Jorrus Sabayoth (original , not cloned yet) the idealogy of a beginning a new Jedi order feels same .
Also their Outbound flight is a Intergalactic Interstellar exploration right , with folklore of Peredia too , why not Peredia where the Jedi exploration has taken place and stopped , even Nightsister mothers are afraid of such chaotic evil Jedi
@@sumukhvmrsat6347 Nightsisters are terrified of Jedi, it makes sense. Nightsisters get force choked before they can finish their incantation and Jedi can resist their control. Jedi are pretty brutal with force combat compared to the Nightsisters and like to genocide darksiders.
Allen, thank you for bringing in some anthropology ("alien-pology") concepts into your videos. Your stuff is edutainment and has "real" world applications.
I am not sure why you hate dolphins but you are right, these mammals can be dangerous like primates. I saw a recent report where a group of dolphins killed a porpoise and the attack is not due to predation.
so youre saying they killed a porpoise on purpose
@@CthulhuFhtagn138 A purpose on porpoise?
Mother Talzin is legit an underrated and very interesting character, especially when it comes to the people she cares about.
At the one hand she doesnt seem to care at all about outsiders (lets not forget she was gonna sacrifice Jar Jar's girlfriend for a ritual) nor the males of her clan (her two other sons Savage and Feral included) like at all, hell when her clan was pretty much wiped out she didnt seem all that bothered by it.
However on the other hand she did seem to genuinely love Maul (even tho he was just another male by Dark Sister colture),to the point she even sacrificed her life to keep him safe and she even went out of her way to guide Ventress and even backed up her assasination attempt on Dooku, even tho it could bring attention to her planet (and it did).
It really begs the question. Why did Ventress and Maul seemed to be so much special to her?
The thread of destiny , Ooo. Ooooo ooohhhoooloolooooooo..... Maybe it's the guidance and thier importance in the fate of universe
I'd like to add the theory that instead of corpses there could be sisters in some sort of stasis in this coffins.
This is now the most likely. I’ve been rewatching his videos and just saw your comment. Ezra does say Thrawn woke up the great mothers.
I really liked how both the Clone Wars and Rebels showed that there were other Force using factions besides the Jedi and Sith. I think the Dathomiri magic is different based on whatever planet they're on. The Peridia witches use artifacts similar in appearance to the star map. Maybe they need the spirits of their ancestors to work their magic. So these are most likely coffins. I think the Night Troopers are just one example of what the Nightsisters can do and those capsules are the next version of fighters.
I always wanted the empire to go against a larger threat other than just the rebels.
I think those coffins contain the Nightwolves, of course. They tap into the mystic Wolfhowl energy that permeates the universe and are led by Red "Red Wolf" Wolf, a new character that will become the most important character in Star Wars probably.
Perfect! The Chosen One prophesy was really referring to Anakin's half brother (on his father's side, make of that what you will), Red Wolf "Red Wolf" the red wolf all along. With special appearances by Trapper Wolf, the resurrected Wolfpack clones, and Shistavanen "Wolfman" Jack (the famous galactic radio host) all riding Loth Wolves.
I both love the remanung damage to the chimera
And do hope it gets repaird/upgraded
They’ll probably refit the hyperdrive on the ring into it
I feel if the night sisters are getting the heck off planet and bringing their remains with them they could be controlling the night troopers as the red ribbons act as tethers to control them. Could be a plan to bring back the mother from the dead
Mystic duck tape
I think it's pretty clear from the dialog they are Dathomiry night sisters whose ancestors migrated from Dathomir. The temples on this planet were part of a great "Dathomiry Witch" civilization, according to Baylen. Morgan says her ancestors were the first to harness the purgill for intergalactic travel to the planet from the SW galaxy. There's no reason to think they came from anywhere else other than Dathomir.
It's probably an undead army of Nightsisters
Plenty of societies in Star wars Is hard to believe have interstellar travel. Maybe they had it but gave it up
I've always loved the Nightsisters and Ventris. What ever happened to Ventris after the Clone Wars?
Fell in a romantic relationship with Quin lon vos and they both died , I don't remember the story toh
All this talk about the Nightsisters made me wonder what is going to happen if Mother Talzin successfully assassinated Count Dooku? How will this impacted the Clones Wars and everyone involved in it?
What if every one of those bodies ends up being stronger than the Dathomer zombies? Heck, what if each one is a full on Inquistor grade force adept (if Nightsister trained rather than dark jedi). In those sort of numbers... that... would legitimately be a terrifying force.
There is still a section of the loathal Jedi temple that contains some sort of force portal in one of the chimera’s cargo bays. I wonder if Thrawn reassembled it. Or, more likely, Feloni forgot it was there.
IIRC, Ezra destroyed it to prevent Palpatine from using it, and without Palpatines guidance on force artifacts, it seems unlikely that Thrawn himself would have rebuilt it.
There is that current rumor that Filoni and Kennedy have a plan here. The Ahsoka series and the movie to finish the story off are, supposedly, going to see the Witches cast a spell that destroys the Force meaning no Jedi, no Sith, no Force users ever again and the only magic will be the Night Sisters.
This is seeming more and more like Filoni’s version of the Yuuzhan Vong. I’m not opposed to that at all haha
Dark Disciple is amazing. I need Quinlan Voss back in live action.
but can we talk about how thrawn and ezra even survived? like at the end of rebels the windows were fully shattered, which means they were literally just in space during the purrgil hyperspace jump
They might not be actually zombies, the pods remind me of Han Solo in Carbonite if you look at the end of them you can see a electronic control panel, it might just be for the repulsorlift functions so those could be living Nightsisters and Brother in there.
I'm pretty sure the Dathomiri are a hybrid.
Rattataki/Zabrak mixed with seeming gender focusing on different things which is why there's the gender dimorphism there
Beat me to it. Well...the folks on Dathomir (nightsisters and night brothers). The Dathomiri being the whale riding ancestors. And are they only 3 witches on Peridea? Something on that planet is causing trouble. I hope episode 7 tells us what else is there.
@@BitigoBlack I'm, kind of, wondering if Ezra woke something up due to Jedi training and that goes to an all hell breaking loose situation.
Not even blaming him, but with Baylan commenting about feeling something calling him...well, Ezra isn't that experienced and, well, Jedi are taught to trust in the force...so something using that as a lure seems like it would make him a big target there.
It might also explain a LOT about Thrawn's view on Jedi there.
“dark science, cloning: secrets only the Sith knew”
LOL
Do you think the ISD can dock in the middel of the Hyper Space Ring like an jedi fighter? Why else would they load everything on the ISD. The ring also did not look like it had any significant Space dedicated to cargo ore personal .
Probably
You think locations over vas space all looks the same would be referred to by cowardness direction instead of names
Ive liked all the SW shows, to some degree or another, but this one is the first where I feel like they are growing the universe more than ever, and I am excited to see how the last two episodes develop. I really hope that they make season 2 much quicker.
@kevinkruse88 its providing the groundwork for future SW akin to The Prequel's lore.
Better pray for the end of both the writers strike and the SAG AFTRA strike then
@@ellieciasca I dont really care one way or another.
Both sides are entitled. For all i care they can never make another show again, ill just keep reading the books .
unfortunately due to the writer's strikes we arent going to see a whole lot of anything in the next couple years :(
From now on I will consider BT pairing like an initiation ritual. With how long it takes and how flaky some Bluetooth connections can be, it checks out...
i bet all those storm trooper are dead and the night sisters used their magic to have them alive , kinda like that inquisitor that exploded.
I couldn't help but think project blackwing, especially when they say there is a darker force they are running from. The caskets could contain bodies from the infected individuals.. definitely a long shot, one can only wish.
It actually is canon I believe and it was imperial created so… who know maybe one day they’ll bring into live action. Maybe even with Han & Cheeie
More over, the idea of thrawn valuing all life, even viral infections could also have a say. Especially with the cloning project he is to set up, the possibility to generate hundreds of clones who could be used as a host sounds interesting
@GenerationTech Thank you O'technological one for gracing me with you acknowledgement. This has shown me a path of enjoyment for the rest of the night. :>
So would they use it on new republic forces , like a Newer Katana fleet Scenerios where Thrawn finds and gets the New republic fleet ships
Yo. Allen do you think those nightsisters caskets. Are carrying very important high-ranking nightsisters bodies , do you remember that episode in the clone wars animated series we're Mace windu went with jar jar Binks to find out why the night sisters where taking these force-sensitive spirits in a spear to revive the nightsister mother Towson. Maybe thrawn at will take the night sisters back to Dathomir so they can be revived by taking other souls like they did in clone wars using those sphears
i swear Allan is my favorite youtuber
Make Sorceress Charal Great Again! It would be cool if they had another shapeshifter witch.
Great Mothers still remember what a Jedi smells like after millenia - that is the top of an iceberg lore drop: Jedi fought the Night Sisters in another galaxy long ago!h
Add in all Baylan's 'old Jedi tales' lines and maybe the story Huyang is telling Ahsoka is about this time.
Everybody gangsta til the witches summon their dead cousins
the caskets probably have dead bodies and there are a great number of dead bodies and Filoni could be planning on doing a Star Wars Zombie series (too long to be a movie) and the Space Witches bringing people back to life is the key to the new Zombie story Rated R duh duh duhnnn (noise for dramatic effect)
They're dead bodies of powerful beings. So the nightsister can zombie them out like marrak
So Star wars dies common after life .
15:38 thrawn would be the only one to support a unionized force--he treats his servicemembers well, and gets ultimate loyalty from them
Isn't everyone evil troubled
I wonder if Morgan's black and white face tattoos are being hidden beneath makeup. Perhaps she'll reveal her true face later on?
Day 183 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS VIDEOS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
Dolphins the containers are full of zombie dolphins.. 🐬🐬🐬🐬☠️☠️
Idk peeps keep talking about this new galaxy. Everyone forgetting the plan is to go back? This new galaxy thing only works if.... thrawn talks the nighchicks back to exagol and they raise palps who later ultimately wins, so we solidify the disney trilogy which retconned George's work.... and.... Ezra, Sabine, Ahsoka, Baylin and Shin all get trapped in the new galaxy and now we can focus on their adventures at the Disney trilogy will have been set up so we can forget about it because we know where it ends.
Dark Disciple, is one of my favourite SW books. A fantastic recommendation. Staring two of, in my opinion, the best and most underused characters in Ventress and Voss.
So the witches could come back have ghost but it hard quigon to learn
Allan. You have unlocked truth star wars aside but this and many videos show truth.
Those coffins are full of all of our expectations that were killed by the sequals
I’m first
Undead magically reanimated Night Troopers.... probably not unionized :)
Something is in there to help Palpatine get cloned with his dark force powers.
Mother tounslin was way stronger, then these three! Just watch what she does! She is absolutely amazing! I think dathmoir was filled with what they needed, more then this planet!
What if the night sister zombies turn out to be the dark side worshippers on Exegol that help Palpatine return? Maybe dark magick combines with cloning to help in a resurrection of sorts? And... staff all those star destroyers too. I know the nightsisters are no fans of the Sith, but I could easily see an alliance be worked out through Thrawn. Just a thought...
Fck the sequels , even Disney's acknowledges it fckd up , 2 directors with overarching completely different ideology and storylines and goals and a destructive hatred filled competition between them , No Creativity and new concepts or ships , and real world socio political trash .... That's just 1% of the reasons .the only future star wars has is the one without sequels
Huge fan thank you for what you do and thank you for explaining the lore we've missed!
I'm just waiting for the chimaera to latch into the ring a-wing style
I just hate having to wait a week everytime for an episode. I wish they would just release all of them at once. I feel like it might even work better for them if they do that, bc a lot of times ppl will get “upset” that what they were wanting/waiting to happen didn’t happen in the newest episode. But if they just released it all at once there would be no complaints bc it’s just one part after another. The thing with these Star Wars shows is they’re basically just longer movies cut into parts, so if they just release sit all together some of those parts that “don’t make sense or are random” (to some ppl) wouldn’t have as much of an impact on the reviews.
Nah, they need that people talk about the show. These videos aswell happening because of this setting. I hate to wait too, but this is the way
@alecjoncas7764 fair statement. At the same time fans today are very lucky. Back in the day we didn't have a scintilla of the content fandoms are privy too now. We had to wait a whole week and sometimes a decade for another entry. Patience my fellow Star War's fan - Yoda 🙏
Giant tentacled space traveling squids.
Dark magic.
Ancient knowledge.
Various cults.
Star Wars is becoming Lovecraftian.
i don't see a problem here
How come matriarchal aociaties in fiction are more positive then patriarchal in fiction
Say me if you tried to use the force in real life
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What if we have it all wrong what if when Thron made it to the new planet the night sisters attacked them that might explain the damaged armor and the war made them see eye to eye of some sorts and the boxes are the body’s of the fallen night sisters. Understanding that might explain why the trooper’s armor was so destroyed and they used a art the Japanese used to fix broken plates but to the armor and the night sisters gave Thron the tape/ fabric to boost the trooper’s ability’s.
Far fetched but plausible , but I don't think so ..... They clearly fought some other thing , that both Thrawn and Night Mother's fear to leave quickly , and Bailen and shin are searching to find that great power
I hope that they understand Thrawn as a charakter. Thrawn could play such a important role in the Star wars future.
I think you could make a video about the how the distinction between the night sisters and Jedi/Sith.
Primarily collective powers vs individual powers. The average member of Sith or Jedi is a trained warrior competent in their use of the force while an average night sister is pretty weak in comparison.
I feel like if Mandolorians and Nightsisters allied or even merged and intermingled they would be insane!
When is the Australian Alan gonna come back?
just an fyi, its pronounced E-knock
Why don't the males form their own clans
“Every night is boys night!” 😉😉
What if those things are like stasis chambers?
And that after they got stuck there they put most of their sisters into stasis until they could escape the planet
They certainly look like it but I think the fact that they were kept in the catacombs makes it more likely just bodies
@@GenerationTech yeah the fact that they were in a place called "catacombs" makes that a high posibility too
Though i wonder whats in those things, nightsisters, some original version of night brothers, or something else entirely?
I’ve enjoyed the Disney+ content, both Star Wars & Marvel, but Ahsoka is the first one that really felt like Star Wars to me. Andor is great, but it lacked the mysticism that I think is key to Star Wars; after all, it’s a space fantasy, not science fiction. Kenobi had it, but it was just not there for me.
Ahsoka is a complete package. It’s got the silly/goofy/campy parts, it’s got the action, it’s got the mysticism, it’s got the space wizard magics. I really hope it finishes well.
In the episode they actually say that the planet is the real homeworld for them. So, the Dathomirian witches originate from this galaxy, not SW one.
At this point in time in the Star Wars galaxy, there is a force power vacuum. A vacuum that needs to be filled. Thrawn's ship is a colonization vessel as this faction of the Sisterhood will repopulate this part the Star Wars galaxy. Wouldn't be surprised if there were more than one ritual of resurrection.
What happened to Ezra
He’s been chilling with the crab people
I always thought Ventress was cool asf, she got shafted in life but I don’t think she was truly evil, she could have been brought to the light. Great video, thanks man
The rest of his staff, and they need to travel to Dathomir which might warrant a cameo of Merrin running into them.
My heart wants space vampires
But Im pretty sure its what is left of the OG Night Sisters species
The omes on Dathomir are like their hillbilly cousin's
Gods i love Thrawns voice. Its like spicy butter.
Yeah he tastes each word
One of the firsts! 🎉
Knight sisters vs mandolins
Inside those caskets are all of our fan theories about this show so far.
Nope they are left behind
Taco Bell.
It is a little confusing why exactly the Night Sisters have this deal with Thrawn. It is mentioned in the last episode that the Sisters used the space whales in the past to go to other galaxies, such as the Star Wars one, so they shouldn't need Thrawn and the Chimera to escape that planet. It is also stated that the Night Sisters reached out to Morgan Elsbeth to come to them, so again, Morgan has that big ship which can get the Night Sisters to our galaxy. So then what does Thrawn have to bargain with if not transport out of there?
The only thing that made sense was that Thrawn could unite the shattered elements of the Empire still existing and so give the Sisters a power base to operate from. If so then my theory on the deal they made is that the Sisters are giving Thrawn their undead to fill out more Trooper armor and make his army bigger. For right now they gave him just enough bodies to operate the Chimera and have a small unit of troopers if he needed them. But once back in the Star Wars galaxy and set up they will give him the rest, those in the canisters, to fill out his army.
I think it is Thrawns Tactical genius that they needed in order for Morgan Elizabeth to successfully make the super Hyperspace ring ship Eye of Scion , really super star destroyer hyperdrive engines need very very very thought process to acquire from both new republic and imperial remnants too and the designs , and I think that the Peredia is now a graveyard so nothing goes back or comes back
eturns to the Star wars galaxy
@@sumukhvmrsat6347Other than the space whales ;)
Star Wars characters introduced in television animation:
-Boba Fett (1978 Holiday Special)
-General Greivous-(Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars)
-Ahsoka Tano-(Filoni’s Clone Wars)
-Saw Gerrera-(Filoni’s Clone Wars)
Cad Bane-(Filoni’s Clone Wars)
Filoni is the Heir to the Empire but maybe we could bring back Tartakovsky?? Live Action Visions? 100 years after Rey…Chiss vs. Mandalorians?
I think they're smuggling whiskey.
Or space crack
I wonder if the night sisters will be synonymous with the nogri. Thrawn did something to their planet to force them to help them out of necessity’s. They will eventually find out and that will be his undoing
With the hindsight of episode 8 I think I can make some more precise counts to thrawn current troop strength.
There is one shot in episode 8 in which you can actually see the whole hangar full of those coffins- if I count correctly i came up with 5,760 coffins arranged in a regular grid and then some more stacked into the alkoves on the side, so I'd say we have 8,000 to 10,000 coffins on board. Thgen we have the troops Thrwan brought with him from Lothal: one Legion of Stormtroopers (now Nighttroopers), about 10k man - minus some which might have fallen victim to Ezra, Ahsoka, Sabine And or the general circumstances of their long exile. So give that another 8,000. The night troopers, as far as we know, can be revived at least one time by the great mothers, so I will count them twice. Thrawns contingent of TIE fighters, shuttles and heavy mechanized infantry might have survived the waiting time almost untouched, which - with a little luck - goes also for their crew. They are also enforced by a small to medium sized mercenary force that Elsbeth, Hati and Skoll brought from Seatos and some officer corps, special forces, personal bodyguards and so on, so add another maybe 4-5,000 persons from that.
The medical personnel, deck watch, gunners, machinists and so on (the onboard crew) of the star destroyer might as well have survived more or less completely. THey are a bit hard to count, however, as Jedipedia gives no clear answer about wether the Chimera was Imerium class I or II, which maeans either 20-30k or (in case of Imperium II clas) even up to 40k personnel.
So in the worst case (for the new republic, that is) we might have a combat force of between 33,000 and up to 80,000 (in the absolute worst case) men on board.
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an army
So, a few head-scratching points;
- Morgan said "I've seen the catacombs, it will take some time" in ref to Thrawn stating they'll load the 'caskets' onboard his ship. When did she have the chance for that little visit?
- There seems to be a LOT of these caskets. As we've yet to see any other Night Sisters other than the three "Great Mothers", where might the rest be and what by chance killed so MANY of them to require so many caskets? There must be something VERY powerful here to kill so many. You would think Thrawn might have mentioned that to Baylan.
- It would seem Peridea is VERY strong with the Force but until/unless Filoni shows us what he has living here, It's very confusing what's been killing off/wounding Thrawn's remaining troopers (they all look like they've been engaged in recent skirmishes) and has decimated the Night Sisters.
- another possibility, is these caskets are holding not dead NS bodies but actually live NS in stasis. Put there perhaps due to such low resources on the planet. Mind, Who built this huge temple complex (labour wise) and to what end?
- if we travel "home" next episode, these questions may not get answered for a VERY long time.
Dathomiri being extragalactic in origin should CLEARLY debunk any further deranged misinformation about zabraks resident on dathomir being any kind of blood relative. Zabraks are Zabraks, whether from Irdonia or settled on Dathomir, and being CALLED a Nightbrother in no way makes you a Dathomirian offshoot. Several species in the SWU are genetically close enough to interbreed, but do not conflate those populations that share worlds. (Like Quarren and MonCalamari)
What's inside the boxes you asked? 🧐
Why it's freshly squeezed Night Sister Gummiberry Juice! 😋
It's in the Walt Disney World Brochure! 🤣👍