New Electric Car Prices 2024! (Discounts Galore!)

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  • @bill_heywood
    @bill_heywood 2 месяца назад +59

    Stellantis are mad. If they listed the Corsa, the e208 e2008 and eC4 at under £25k they would get far more people through the door in the first place

    • @decimal1815
      @decimal1815 2 месяца назад +10

      It would probably help if they offered a decent warranty too - like 5 years for example. Then they might actually seem competitive.

    • @bill_heywood
      @bill_heywood 2 месяца назад +3

      @@decimal1815 great point, they really haven't kept up with the market leaders when it comes to warranties

    • @samuxan
      @samuxan 2 месяца назад +3

      I got my e208 for 24000 almost 3 years ago when it was listed at 31000. That's one of the great things about local dealerships and why I don't even consider cars from tesla or byd that only have online stores(and mg that only recently opened in my area)

    • @bigdougscommentary5719
      @bigdougscommentary5719 2 месяца назад +5

      @@samuxanso the car you bought was, in reality, ONLY worth $24000. You didn’t get a good deal, you got the deal the dealer wanted you to get. Old strategy, state a high price and heavily discount it. Learned that in the early 80’s when working at a Datsun dealership.

    • @decimal1815
      @decimal1815 2 месяца назад

      @@samuxan do you think you will extend the warranty once it's up?

  • @seanb9530
    @seanb9530 2 месяца назад +46

    Dvla are happy to use list price over £40k on ice cars to stitch you up for more road tax!

    • @jlrguy2702
      @jlrguy2702 2 месяца назад +4

      And EVs from 2025

    • @Joe-lb8qn
      @Joe-lb8qn 2 месяца назад +4

      Eaxctly. OEMs need to bring list down to the 'real' prices to avoid a needless £2k extra tax.

    • @jlrguy2702
      @jlrguy2702 2 месяца назад

      @@Joe-lb8qn you think that’s how it works? Just because dealers are giving discounts to get rid of stock doesn’t mean manufacturers will bring down list prices. You think the mark them up so much to make them competitive?

    • @jlrguy2702
      @jlrguy2702 2 месяца назад

      @@Joe-lb8qn just buy a cheaper EV that doesn’t cost over 40k

    • @Joe-lb8qn
      @Joe-lb8qn 2 месяца назад

      @@jlrguy2702 market forces will bring down including list

  • @Mike-qu6fp
    @Mike-qu6fp 2 месяца назад +50

    I see list prices and think "they're having a laugh" and don't look any further.

    • @esm7708
      @esm7708 2 месяца назад +3

      Have you ever bought a car? You always ignore the list price.

    • @mcdon2401
      @mcdon2401 2 месяца назад

      List prices are a bit like economy figures... May as well be fantasy, but it's a standardised fantasy that you know you're never going to get.

    • @jonb5493
      @jonb5493 2 месяца назад +2

      @@mcdon2401 .. a bit like the speed limit on the M3: an "aspirational" number rather than a limit, since you're lucky to get up to 50 every other month.

    • @makemebad1978
      @makemebad1978 2 месяца назад

      @@esm7708not everyone can haggle well, except for “dealer contribution” and a car wow discount I’ve never seen much knocked off

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад

      🇨🇳👍😉

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 2 месяца назад +13

    If the car companies overprice their cars well they deserve those top depreciating car awards.

  • @chrissmith2114
    @chrissmith2114 2 месяца назад +11

    An EV is like a smart phone, a disposable piece of consumer kit.

    • @mattx4253
      @mattx4253 2 месяца назад

      they are until the battery tech development slows down. We all know that a big battery shift is likely on the way in next 5 years which will make old EVs almost worthless compared to new ones witch get 400-600 miles of range using solid state batteries or some other tech

    • @rodpanhard
      @rodpanhard 2 месяца назад

      @@mattx4253 My biggest fear is they turn out to be the automotive equivalent of the Minidisc or Betamax, works well enough but just ended up being a placeholder for the real solution and they are just too expensive to take the risk that this is not the case.

    • @chrissmith2114
      @chrissmith2114 Месяц назад

      @catastrophic009 Yeah, because both EV and phone are 'a collection of parts'...

    • @Peak_Stone
      @Peak_Stone 29 дней назад

      Smartphones are essential in the modern day.

    • @chrissmith2114
      @chrissmith2114 29 дней назад

      @@mattx4253 Big battery breakthrough has been 5 years away for last century, the last one was Li-Ion by Sony in 1980's....

  • @adamspencer95
    @adamspencer95 2 месяца назад +4

    I'd be careful and treat un-usually low prices on autotrader as a ploy to increase enquiries at certain dealers. When I was looking for my focus the number of dealers advertising certain deals, then claiming "oh its gone but we've got loads of others at full price" was rediculous.
    Just because its advertised, doesn't mean it's real.

  • @anthonyn3774
    @anthonyn3774 2 месяца назад +21

    I've never bought a new car and probably never will and I knew you could get a bit knocked off through different websites but I didn't appreciate the scale of the discounts available on some new cars. This is great content that will help a lot of people.

    • @onlineo2263
      @onlineo2263 2 месяца назад +3

      Erm just go to auto trader and select new EV. The discounts are easy for anyone to see. In a buyers market there is no excuse for being a chump and walking into a dealership and paying list or even haggling. Auto trader will show you the best price in the country. If your local dealership doesn't match it or get very close then buy online instead!

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад

      🇨🇳👍😉

  • @garden-Railway
    @garden-Railway 2 месяца назад +3

    Unfortunately I paid list for a Honda E , these massive reductions weren’t about 2 years ago, it’s now worth 40% of what I paid, people did pay list!

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull 2 месяца назад +4

    I need a van that will do at least 150 miles a day while loaded without needing a recharge. Ive no need for a car.
    Even the cheapest is £16 - 17,000 over what Im willing to pay for a vehicle. Then I run it till the wheels fall off and the bodywork gives way and I cannot weld it back together anymore.
    The newest vehicle Ive ever owned has been 6 years old. I still own it 15 years and 475,000 miles later.

    • @leelizington9501
      @leelizington9501 2 месяца назад +3

      Get a diesel..... sorted

    • @sahhull
      @sahhull 2 месяца назад

      @@leelizington9501 Got a diesel..
      Diesel is the only viable solution.

    • @sahhull
      @sahhull 2 месяца назад

      Yup Ive got a diesel.
      Diesel is the only viable solution.

    • @leelizington9501
      @leelizington9501 2 месяца назад

      @@sahhull indeed

  • @stephenwensley9328
    @stephenwensley9328 2 месяца назад +3

    The problem with the used market is manufacturers retiring key things like Smart apps (Nissan) or upgrading them only for key models, so old ones no longer function (Jaguar). Who wanted pre-heating, keyless entry, remote parking, etc anyway

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey 2 месяца назад +1

      That's a problem with those things being proprietary software in the first place. If the specs were open they couldn't just turn off support on you, because 3rd parties could support it (the way we can with quite a few phones these days - you don't have to suck up the privacy-invading crap the manufacturers want to give you any more). We need more of this in cars which are currently a complete disaster area from a software autonomy and privacy standpoint.

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад

      🇨🇳😉👍

  • @paulphillips9228
    @paulphillips9228 2 месяца назад +3

    My local Fiat dealer has a 500e pre-reg with no mileage in Icon spec for under £19,998. Sounds tempting, until you try to insure it. I'm 72 with 30 years NCD, so the huge premium is based on the car, not my driving record.

    • @TheBladesman-ig1cu
      @TheBladesman-ig1cu 2 месяца назад

      Odd. I was pleasantly surprised that the insurance for my 1 year old 500e was the same cost as my 10 year fiesta

    • @paulphillips9228
      @paulphillips9228 2 месяца назад

      @@TheBladesman-ig1cu You are probably right. I did another check on Auto trader and the quotes are not as bad as I thought. Must be old age🤔 , but it's still twice what I paid for my Suzuki Swift.

  • @michaelridley2864
    @michaelridley2864 2 месяца назад +1

    Super interesting video, thanks. Some real bargains out there, and also second hand.

  • @dpn1604
    @dpn1604 2 месяца назад +2

    The top 5 cheapest EVs (and pretty much all the other ones with some exceptions) are the smallest ones also knows as crossover scooters! For 20k, you can get a very decent used petrol or diesel (euro 6) than those useless EVs. Granted, won't be new but easy to repair at any local garage vs the EVs. And you recharge to 300+ miles in less than 5 min!

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 2 месяца назад +3

    I've bought a couple of new Renault cars with huge discounts over the years (30%}. The deprecation was quite low compared to the price I paid but massive compared to list price.

  • @akumar7366
    @akumar7366 2 месяца назад +2

    Very informative it looks like a buyers market.

  • @revans3158
    @revans3158 2 месяца назад +13

    Ive had my Corsa-e just over three years now. 55k miles. At the time i bought it, it was the cheapest i could find am ev. £21k brand new at the time and ive almost finished paying it off!

    • @saulmc8920
      @saulmc8920 2 месяца назад +10

      And now it's worthless?

    • @JJJJJ269
      @JJJJJ269 2 месяца назад

      @@saulmc8920like every other car on the planet.

    • @sIightIybored
      @sIightIybored 2 месяца назад

      @@saulmc8920They're worth about £11k now, so it's a pretty normal amount of depreciation for a 3 year old car.

    • @rickbaines8262
      @rickbaines8262 2 месяца назад +1

      Has it been decent for you in that time? They look good value to me.

    • @Dominic_Bolton
      @Dominic_Bolton 2 месяца назад +1

      @@saulmc8920worthless in what sense?

  • @TrevorHa
    @TrevorHa 2 месяца назад +6

    If I paid the list price on my Cupra Born I would of lost 50% of its value in 16 months. I paid a decent amount less (shopping around) but just sold it 2 weeks ago for £18k. 4 months ago however the webuy value was £24k..... The 1k a month loss is very real at the moment. Just ask my wallet!

  • @mikestead3804
    @mikestead3804 2 месяца назад +2

    lets face it they are trying to get rid of stationary stock my dealer told me that he has not sold one privately owned EV

  • @michaeljoyce9161
    @michaeljoyce9161 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this. It's given me a good idea of the kind of prices available in the real world.

  • @ramasesthedetectorist
    @ramasesthedetectorist 2 месяца назад +2

    You are spot on with riduculous depreciation calculations - and I too have been saying it for years! Four years ago I negotiated a new top of the range SEAT Ibiza down from just north of £20k to £16k. I recently traded it in against a new Clio 90 TCe, getting £13k for it. This was a real depreciation over four years of less than 19% - not the 36% against List Price (which would have still been way below the 60% that the magazines and websites would suggest). I got 11% off my new Clio and free metallic (effectively a total of 14% off) - not as much as I got off the Ibiza, but better than the Target Price quoted by the main consumer magazines and websites. It will be interesting to see how I do when I swap the Clio in four years time. As for the list prices of electric cars - they are nothing short of laughable. I, for one, am delighted to see big discounts for those looking to get an EV, but lower realistic list prices would, as others have said, get potential buyers (especially those who don't want to or can't haggle) through the door and actually buying. If the mainstream (i.e. European) manufacturers keep their list prices where they are, the upcoming Chinese models will take a huge chunk of their sales of mainstream models.

  • @mrsthelens1
    @mrsthelens1 2 месяца назад +2

    a guy had a porsche on another site, paid 120k for it, less than 3 years old and the best from 3 place was 41k he could get back now

    • @adriancoppin977
      @adriancoppin977 2 месяца назад

      Porsche will NOT have second hand Porsche EVs in PEx.

    • @mrsthelens1
      @mrsthelens1 2 месяца назад

      @@adriancoppin977 well they must of had some in that had been exchanged, the guy said he was going to try 2 other porsche dealers, 1 was porsche that valued it, car wow was another and highway, webuyanycar was the others

  • @silvermovermedia9737
    @silvermovermedia9737 2 месяца назад +3

    Now you should do the list of how much the manufacturers lose on all of those EV cars compared to their petrol and diesel

  • @randomguy9893
    @randomguy9893 2 месяца назад +1

    I’ve just gone down the leasing route for my E-C4X, some good deals on Leaseloco. Hopefully in two years everything will have settled down a bit.

  • @theDaveBaxter
    @theDaveBaxter 2 месяца назад +3

    Nissan dealer by me had 4 leafs pre-reg for £18k. They still have 2 left last time I drove past.

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 2 месяца назад +1

    My current electric car is a Zoe and my next will be a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric with Wheelhome Vikenze III conversion.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      Well done you, for buying into the Globalist agenda.

  • @adrianwood2566
    @adrianwood2566 2 месяца назад

    Wow. I have the old ID3. It was pre registered and had 1400 miles as a demo and was massively discounted. Cheaper than the MG4. I wouldn’t be paying the current price but I definitely wouldn’t get an ID3 when the Cupra Born was cheaper. It looks so much better than its cousin. I love my ID3 though. Things were different last July when I bought bought it. My ID3 was nearly £30 a month cheaper than the MG4 which I got the longest range priced cheaper than the standard. So the car was about £7k off list but the used car got a 2k finance contribution compared to £500 for a new one (at the time).

  • @darrensanders3478
    @darrensanders3478 2 месяца назад

    Where did you get these prices from? Interested in the mg 4

  • @SuperCatbert
    @SuperCatbert 2 месяца назад +1

    Evs were not heavily discounted 3 years ago. For accurate depreciation you would have to use 3 year old new car price data. I know for sure Tesla have done massive price variations over that time period.

  • @QALibrary
    @QALibrary 2 месяца назад

    Thank you this was a very interesting video

  • @user-zh9kc7tw4n
    @user-zh9kc7tw4n 2 месяца назад +1

    People who have not gotten the new discounted price but financed their EV for bit less than list will loose out as the current discounts of up to 30% on new EVs. Then comes the question are people buying a 3 year old EV off the dealers? And what happens to all the lease fleet cars after 3 years since most EVs sold are fleet leases?

  • @deutrolige
    @deutrolige 2 месяца назад +4

    I just bought a Renault Zoe 52kwh 136bhp from mid 2020 with 60.000km for 14.000 british pounds (in Denmark, where I live). For that price it is an incredible second car for shorts and medium trips. But I have to say that the car has no CCS charging... bit for the everyday is more than enough😊

  • @PeteMulv
    @PeteMulv 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video, I bought my first EV (E208) last year and so far I can't see myself going back, so any indication that the prices are leveling up is good. As a retiree I'm very rarely in a rush so charging along the way suits me.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      Congratulations on buying into a Globalist agenda Pete. Something to muse over while you're waiting for the charge to top out.

  • @alangravy27
    @alangravy27 2 месяца назад +9

    Great content. I have seen £10,100 off an E308 SW via a website connected to a RUclips channel I wont mention. Made me go Wow!

    • @snodgee
      @snodgee 2 месяца назад +1

      Just imagine if you had brought it a few weeks ago at full price you would have lost over £10,000 so it shows how the used market must be in a bad state

    • @alangravy27
      @alangravy27 2 месяца назад

      @@snodgee it is scary indeed. Leasing an EV might be the safest option at the moment

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      ​@@alangravy27it's the ONLY option, other than doing the sensible thing. Buying a ICE car

    • @theelectricmonk3909
      @theelectricmonk3909 2 месяца назад

      @@CosmicSeeker69 "...doing the sensible thing. Buying a ICE car" I wouldn't buy a brand new ICE car now, even if you paid me to get it. A 2nd hand one, sure, that I'd consider (well, apart from the fact my MG4 has been absolutely fine & costs a fraction of the money to run that an ICE car would). The EV market is all over the place right now, for a variety of factors (the sort of misinformation - or indeed outright lies - peddled by some media outlets & their acolytes is one of those factors), but I predict within 2 or 3 years, it'll have settled down & we'll be able to make sensible predictions about the future of motoring (i.e. will it be EV, synthetic fuel, hydrogen, or a bus).

  • @Andy-zi1wj
    @Andy-zi1wj 2 месяца назад +1

    Ive been looking at alot of these cars recently there is big discounts available but most have very high interest rates on pcp 9.9-13.9% some are betterto lease if you can find a good deal

  • @stvevi
    @stvevi 2 месяца назад +2

    oh boy i cant wait to spend £20k plus on a car that can just be a 'second car', i guess it's a nice way of saying it is just too inadequate to be a normal car

  • @philiptaylor7902
    @philiptaylor7902 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video, a dose of reality.

  • @lm68lancashire60
    @lm68lancashire60 2 месяца назад

    Very good information xx

  • @jonb5493
    @jonb5493 2 месяца назад +2

    Great prez. I wonder if anyone could opine. Dealers are selling MG4 15-18 months old (Jan-2023 thereabouts). They ask 18K GBP or so - that's a 25+% reduction from the list price. What kind of offers are these dealers accepting? Anyone tried his luck?

  • @Knott1701
    @Knott1701 2 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for this. Wonder what price you'll be able to get the Dacia Spring and Renault 5 for later this year? List wil be£15K and £25K for each, Especially in Q4 🙂

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf 2 месяца назад +10

    I am looking at replacing my leased Kia E Niro 4+. On paper the Tesla Model 3 is cheaper than most cars especially when adding the extra tech and heat pump. This is another interesting view as I will be looking at a number of cars this week.
    Out of interest we drove past some 2018/19 Ford Fiesta rangeing between £10,000 and £12,000, so new EV's are looking a lot cheaper. I used to always get a deal on a new ICE car for less than any selling second hand, even a year old. It is well worth looking for discounts.

    • @JustinCooperMarsh
      @JustinCooperMarsh 2 месяца назад +1

      Tesla done it right. I find almost all legacy manufacturers still living in the "we must sell options", adding so much to the cars price.

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад

      🇨🇳👍❤😂

  • @melvinwilliams7974
    @melvinwilliams7974 Месяц назад +1

    I would like to know where you get yuur prices, I am ready to Buy.

  • @philcramman1
    @philcramman1 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm waiting for delivery of a £16k discounted Hinda e:NY1, but live in Scotland. I've posted up on an owners page on Facebook that you're struggling to get a hold of one to review, with the hope that someone a little closer to your location can offer you theirs for a test. Where is your rough location?

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 2 месяца назад

    I have enjoyed my Zoe for four years, and it’s a leased car through Renault’s own finance company. The Combo will be leased through Motability because I’m disabled.

  • @roberts.wilson1848
    @roberts.wilson1848 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm curious how the e2008 is so much cheaper there because here they made it more expensive. There is some stock clearance on the peugeot site, but the dealers are brushing it away, plus the trim levels are worse.
    For example the GT trim would come like in 2023 (last year of NFL) with 10 inch screen, the advanced led headlights, the silver trim pieces, fog lights...but in the stock GT cars, they are being sold without any of the above, but still offered as GT (not GT line)
    And the rest of the cars are being price increased here mainland europe, not reduced.

  • @gwenshannon3797
    @gwenshannon3797 2 месяца назад +1

    The list price and any extras are what the tax due is calculated on if you have a company car. As you say who actually pays that.

  • @beardedclecker
    @beardedclecker 2 месяца назад +2

    I always enjoy your video content, and it’s helped me with my research for energy and budget saving. Having owned an EV myself for 3 years, I’ve recently swapped out for a Toyota hybrid as the overall cost with 3 years ownership is less than an equivalent EV. Some other factors helped with my decision, discount on my new car, zero problems trying to charge on long journeys, and predictable depreciation. I’m happy with my decision, but I miss the EV driving experience, but it just didn’t make the cut this time around.

  • @rogerbrown6055
    @rogerbrown6055 2 месяца назад +1

    It's all very well to say that the depreciation isn't as great as some people are making out as you don't pay full MRRP. However, someone who bought their EV two or three years ago won't have seen the discounts you are highlighting so they will experience bigger losses than you are intimating. These big discounts are appearing in part because Tesla are dripping list prices so they all have to follow suit.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад

      But this video is about new car purchases. Not new made 3-4 years back. Different topic entirely.

  • @kclim2631
    @kclim2631 2 месяца назад

    Very good video. But in buying a new car, where can I go for such discounted price please.

  • @Antiguan_Dart
    @Antiguan_Dart 2 месяца назад

    Really useful video - the list price as quoted in many reviews and literature no doubt puts people off but given a lot of people are acquiring new cars on finance or leasing they won’t have access to these deals or will they?!

  • @bramham4
    @bramham4 2 месяца назад +3

    Fascinating. I’ve some experience of trawling discount sites but can’t find prices like these ‘in 30 secs’. Can you be any more informative on where you found these deals?

    • @smudger831
      @smudger831 2 месяца назад

      Autotrader, search by new cars. Only did a few out of curiosity but prices are way lower than RRP.

    • @bramham4
      @bramham4 2 месяца назад

      @@smudger831 Thanks. Quite a range but yes can see some examples now.

    • @steedge853
      @steedge853 Месяц назад

      @@smudger831 , im not seeing any e208's

  • @RB-lt8kt
    @RB-lt8kt 2 месяца назад

    Totally agree with car depreciation. A Cupra V2 Formentor has depreciated the same as a Cupra Born V2. They are both about the same cost new and 22 plate cars have similar depreciation. The only issue with your list is they are mainly small EV's so second cars as range is 150 to 200 miles at best in summer. Most families would want a Tesla, ID3 or 4 or Audi Etron size car.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад

      Most of those cars are on the list, along with a lot of others family cars.

  • @stephenjames8470
    @stephenjames8470 2 месяца назад

    I love your videos. Can I just ask how you find the prices? Do you ring the dealerships and haggle or something else because I’m struggling to get a decent price.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +1

      Just looked on Autotrader in this case and clicked on brand new.

    • @stephenjames8470
      @stephenjames8470 2 месяца назад

      @@ElectricVehicleMan many thanks. Keep the quality videos coming 👍🏻

  • @Dominic_Bolton
    @Dominic_Bolton 2 месяца назад +1

    It would be interesting to see a biggest percentage discounts version of this video 👍🏼

  • @connclissmann6514
    @connclissmann6514 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video. Have you thought of using a 50" TV and PowerPoint as the Whiteboard of Truth? It might save you time for not a lot of money. These deep discounts seem to be UK-specific. Cheapest new Corsa EV here I could find is €29,950 or £25,700 so a full £5,700 or over 25% more than UK.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад

      Then I’d need to make non interactive graphics for everything.

  • @stevejordan4299
    @stevejordan4299 2 месяца назад +5

    I also looked at the cheapest new Volkswagen Polo, £18,941 ouch.

    • @jonathantaylor1998
      @jonathantaylor1998 2 месяца назад

      I'm glad you did that - that was something I was about to do myself, just for interest...!
      Thanks, dude... 😎

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад

      🇨🇳👍😉

  • @80y3r9
    @80y3r9 2 месяца назад

    Just rewatched you two in a twizzy for 24hours.. you can thank the algorithm
    Did think about donating but assumed the link was shut

  • @ComeJesusChrist
    @ComeJesusChrist 2 месяца назад

    £19-20k used to be the price for the basic 204 generation Mercedes C180 Kompressor. They currently range, sixteen years later, between £1,000 and around 6,000 for an ultra-low mileage, pristine example. They do 40mpg, have over 150bhp, five seats, comfort, reliability and very reasonable parts prices both new and second hand. These cheap EVs will disappear from the UK roads in a decade or so. Meanwhile, the cheap petrol cars comparable to the cheapest EVs used to be, even a few years ago, around £10-14k and their engines are also running strong.

  • @tigerv88
    @tigerv88 2 месяца назад +4

    Quite funny to see how much they are still asking for the Leaf given its age against the competition at same price points.

    • @MrDAVIDATKIN
      @MrDAVIDATKIN 2 месяца назад +1

      Got offered a new Leaf at £18k, still wouldn't buy it but it might suit someone.

    • @NunoLima1337
      @NunoLima1337 2 месяца назад

      @@MrDAVIDATKIN where did you find that 18k LEAF please?
      I'd sooner get an outdated LEAF than a less common model from brands that might not be 100% committed to EV (IMHO that's all the other Japanese brands).

    • @MrDAVIDATKIN
      @MrDAVIDATKIN 2 месяца назад

      @@NunoLima1337 its through Cars2Buy £17494 for a Leaf Connecta, smaller 39kWh battery obviously for that price but seems a great price for anyone wanting a Leaf.

  • @petergilderdale
    @petergilderdale 2 месяца назад

    I'd only consider 2 out of the top 17 and they would only be as a second car for short journeys. The E-208 or Mini.

  • @tommytinkler1708
    @tommytinkler1708 2 месяца назад

    Looking for a high end used car in the 10-20k range, what are my EV options?

  • @onlineo2263
    @onlineo2263 2 месяца назад +1

    If you are in the market for a brand new EV then surely you need an EC4 at £20k... Or the ioniq 6 at £38k. Pretty much write everything else off at these prices. Sure if you want an estate or an Suv or sports car then get the Mg5 and of the suv or that Audi.

  • @KokowaSarunoKuniDesu
    @KokowaSarunoKuniDesu 2 месяца назад +1

    Is the 40k "luxury car tax" payable based on list price, or on actual purchase price (when new)?

  • @briangriffiths114
    @briangriffiths114 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for the considerable time you must have spent researching this. Good that EVs are now becoming more affordable to a wider audience.

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад +1

      🇨🇳👍😉

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 2 месяца назад +1

      Too bad the audience doesn't want them.

    • @briangriffiths114
      @briangriffiths114 2 месяца назад

      @@robertkubrick3738 Both new and used electric car sales continue to rise in 2024.

  • @cadude145
    @cadude145 2 месяца назад

    I got a kick out of this one. None of those cars are available in the US where I reside. Right now our cheapest car is a base Tesla model 3

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, well you dudes get screwed on EVERYTHING. Especially the price of food... Nobody's telling you though! 😂😂

    • @robertkubrick3738
      @robertkubrick3738 2 месяца назад

      @@CosmicSeeker69 I hear food has gone up in the UK also.

  • @ChristopherNutt
    @ChristopherNutt 2 месяца назад +1

    What's the break even price? How's the predicted pricing matched up actual pricing. Has the demand for ev died so much that's the cause of hemorrhaging prices. I was looking for an ev and have ended up with a 3l diesel because it works out cheaper and more environmentally friendly.

  • @80y3r9
    @80y3r9 2 месяца назад

    I might be on the wine, would like to see a similar lease one buttt those prices are all over the place

  • @tug1345
    @tug1345 2 месяца назад +1

    It's like looking at AO and Argos listings for discount washing machines

  • @johniooi3954
    @johniooi3954 2 месяца назад +2

    Just goes to show how manufactures take us as mugs. If they had simply priced the cars at a realistic price top 4 @ £25K instead of the inflated £30k+ Not only would they have sold more, but would not have had to discount so much just to get people to buy them. Total greed on their part.

    • @harrycorry3772
      @harrycorry3772 2 месяца назад

      But if list price was £25k then wouldn't any buyer expect a discount on that as well?

  • @YS-cs8yq
    @YS-cs8yq 2 месяца назад

    I am more likely to look at a car if the sticker price say 19K rather then 32K.
    In a way the car dealers are discouraging customers from stepping into their dealership.
    Do carry on this type of car prices comparison now and again. Most helpful.

  • @bradleyarcher9840
    @bradleyarcher9840 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video 👍 I was training at GivEnergy HQ this week on Thursday and asked if you was about. I also saw all your videos, great stuff 😎

  • @sie4431
    @sie4431 2 месяца назад +1

    I wonder what effect the Dacia Spring and even the e-c3 will have on these prices. The spring's list price is £15k, even if they don't discount it that's going to make the other city cars going to look unattractive.
    National cars is selling the Leaf for £20,400, that'd make it 5th on your list

  • @gordonevans376
    @gordonevans376 2 месяца назад

    Surely if you are using the same data points for all cars then the depreciation is a valid indication of how much a car value could drop. Therefore if you can get the car for much less than list fine, but price paid is what the manufacturer / dealer is prepared to accept sometimes even incurring a loss.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад

      Some cars have much larger discounts than others, Ford v BMW for example.
      They’re not the same data points. Only if everyone paid list would that be valid.

    • @gordonevans376
      @gordonevans376 2 месяца назад

      Unless you can take each individual car and its sale price and then what it is sold for after a number of years later to work out true depreciation. Depreciation as presented by data is an indication only, that is my point.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад

      @@gordonevans376 All the magazines I mentioned in this have a target price for readers to aim for. A more realistic achievable value.
      They already have this data for pretty much all cars sold. As said in this video, why not use that?

  • @silverarrow7
    @silverarrow7 2 месяца назад

    Where do you recommend to go to find the “realistic” prices?

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +1

      As it’s ever changing, gotta be done yourself. Autotrader is easiest.

    • @silverarrow7
      @silverarrow7 2 месяца назад

      @@ElectricVehicleMan thank you!

  • @jlrguy2702
    @jlrguy2702 2 месяца назад +2

    Funny but you are comparing current new discount prices v current 2nd hand cars. Add another 3 years to current cars and the will be even cheaper 2nd hand than they are now. Especially as there will be a glut of used EVs, they will be taxed at either 180 +/- 380 premium car tax if over 40k list. 3 years if numbers increase by 30% then cheap rates will start to increase, especially with the push to heat pumps. It’s still not that rosey. Still keep to Tesla not that I plan to sell my MX any time in the foreseeable future.

  • @diddybopper2052
    @diddybopper2052 2 месяца назад +1

    It’s all well and good being cheap, but what about range? For my personal circumstance, a long range model 3 was really the only viable option (and what I’ve been driving for 3 years). This doesn’t appear to have changed much, and I am now looking into getting a second hand M3 or other Tesla in years to come rather than a brand new one or other make. There is also the charging network; Tesla’s superchargers are so much better than any other out there.

    • @rickbaines8262
      @rickbaines8262 2 месяца назад

      In all honesty, if you are going to use public charging a lot, I wouldn't buy anything that can't use the Tesla network. It's still patchy out there in 2024 for public charging. If you're mainly charging at home with just the occasional public charger, I wouldn't worry so much. Charging time of the car is just as important as range if you do a fair bit of motorway work.

    • @harrycorry3772
      @harrycorry3772 2 месяца назад

      I think anyone considering an EV as their main car should decide whether range is a major factor (faurly obvious statement) but when they do, I suspect the vast majority will realise that it isn't AS LOBG AS THEY CAN CHARGE AT HOME.

    • @diddybopper2052
      @diddybopper2052 2 месяца назад +1

      @@harrycorry3772I don’t understand your comment. How does having a home charging point help me if I don’t have enough range to get to where I’m going, and back home? A home charger isn’t the solver of all problems.

    • @harrycorry3772
      @harrycorry3772 2 месяца назад +1

      @diddybopper2052 It's more a general comment on EV ownership. If you can't charge at home, or at a reduced rate at work, then an EV isn't the best car for anyone. Public charging is too unreliable and too expensive. Even in your home/work/home, one trip/no charge scenario, if you can't charge at home first, then it would be too costly via public chargers.
      Plus if you need an EV with 300 mile range then MOST people would be stopping for a piss or something to eat anyway, so could get a top-up charge then, which doesn't add much extra time to your journey.

  • @JurassicJungle
    @JurassicJungle 2 месяца назад +1

    Great but my Model 3 seems to have dropped from £48k to £25K in a bit over 2 years so almost £1k a month lost. I wanted to get one as a salary sacrafice but my employer was not playing ball. If I could have done that I would probably have saved £600 a month and could have walked away. I still love the car but I have never lost so much money on a car. I won't buy another.

  • @SanPar1
    @SanPar1 2 месяца назад

    Really useful rundown on the cheapest trade prices for EVs.. at £20k.. hmmm.. might go for it 🤔

  • @limitededition1053
    @limitededition1053 2 месяца назад +1

    I guess the discounts they are now giving is due to EV's not selling and being stock piled. It's all supply and demand. If you get a discounted car and pay less than £40,000 for a £40,000+ car do you still pay the luxury car tax premium?

  • @RedRupert64
    @RedRupert64 2 месяца назад +1

    Apply this to petrol or diesel cars, and EVs are still expensive and will certainly depreciate badly as they near the end of their battery life.

  • @keithdenton8386
    @keithdenton8386 2 месяца назад

    Interesting. Very interesting.

  • @jonathantaylor1998
    @jonathantaylor1998 2 месяца назад +3

    WOW....
    I mean... a holy cr*p, kinda WOW...!
    Some of those discounts are mindboggling...!!
    Great work, dude...
    Oh and I can see the anti-EV trolls are starting commenting on your channel, eh...? 🤦‍♂

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      In the same way those sending videos out from auction sites are painting a gloomy picture.

  • @shabayaba123
    @shabayaba123 2 месяца назад +2

    Where do i find the mg4 for £21,855 please?

    • @rickbaines8262
      @rickbaines8262 2 месяца назад

      Might not still be there, 22689 at Perkins garage in Baintree is cheapest on Autotrader today.

  • @paultasker7788
    @paultasker7788 2 месяца назад

    VW prices for the ID models seem a bit excessive.

  • @zoomclason
    @zoomclason 2 месяца назад +6

    These are cars are discounted as no-one wants them and dealers are desperate to sell them. Dealers have EVs stacking up on there lots.
    People know that they don't hold their value as there is no second hand market for them as the cost to replace a battery is most likely more than the car is worth. Also problems with range anxiety, queues to charge at peak times, time to charge being at least 45 minutes and no-where to have them repaired except for the main dealers all contribute to poor sales leading to massive discounts.

  • @pistonslapuk
    @pistonslapuk 2 месяца назад +1

    Where are you finding these actual prices from please as I’ve looked and there’s nothing even close to these discounts

  • @YS-cs8yq
    @YS-cs8yq 2 месяца назад +8

    Thank you for bringing some realism about EV prices.
    Whats a good place to look for these cars, any ideas.

    • @sargfowler9603
      @sargfowler9603 2 месяца назад

      Any main dealership I should think.

    • @YS-cs8yq
      @YS-cs8yq 2 месяца назад

      I meant the sites to look at for the realistic prices.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +5

      Autotrader and carwow.

    • @YS-cs8yq
      @YS-cs8yq 2 месяца назад

      Thank you.

    • @petersimms4982
      @petersimms4982 2 месяца назад

      🇨🇳👍😉

  • @s__c__o
    @s__c__o 2 месяца назад

    Car prices vary a lot between UK countries.

  • @kevfquinn
    @kevfquinn 2 месяца назад +5

    When I bought mine new in 2016, it was new to market, high demand, a few months waiting time, and I kinda had to suck it up - it's great to see the market is now so much bigger and more established, and I shouldn't have to do that again!

  • @chrisbaker91
    @chrisbaker91 2 месяца назад

    Where does one go to find these sort of discounts?

  • @davecarr6718
    @davecarr6718 2 месяца назад +7

    Where do you find these prices?

    • @jamest234
      @jamest234 2 месяца назад

      I think a lot are from auto trader

    • @seanb9530
      @seanb9530 2 месяца назад

      Couldn't see eny1 £28k on autotrader?

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +3

      Prob sold out for now.
      I have a screen grab of each car listed here for reference.

    • @rickbaines8262
      @rickbaines8262 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ElectricVehicleMan Loads of new and pre reg EV's listed on Autotrader for well under £25k, a few less than 20k, perhaps we are at or near ICE price parity.

    • @davecarr6718
      @davecarr6718 2 месяца назад

      On Autotrader do you search just for new or 2024+ ?

  • @ihaynes9176
    @ihaynes9176 2 месяца назад +2

    One can only assume this will bankrupt most of the European Car Manufactures with these prices.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +1

      They ain’t stupid. They have about 9 cars all from the same platform in the group. All using same components.

  • @carlbugler636
    @carlbugler636 2 месяца назад

    Some good deals to be had, dealerships need to get rid of the stock they can't shift off the forecourts. I think prices may come down more.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      And WHEN they shift them, they won't be ordering so enthusiastically again.

  • @jimgannon1917
    @jimgannon1917 2 месяца назад +1

    It the repair bills, out of warranty that frighten me..
    The cars, are with phones..

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад

      Warranties in batteries are all 7/8 years. Not so much an issue on a new car.

  • @rickbaines8262
    @rickbaines8262 2 месяца назад

    Evan Halshaw has a 2024 red C4 50kwh on Autotrader with just ten miles for a nudge under £18000, bet that doesn't hang around long.

    • @carlarrowsmith
      @carlarrowsmith 2 месяца назад

      Trouble for Citroen VX Peugeot is that a used Kia with more range, more warranty and I dare say more reliable, is a similar or cheaper price.

  • @michaelgoode9555
    @michaelgoode9555 2 месяца назад

    I am assuming that manufacturers are effectively giving some of the huge discounts that fleet buyers get to private buyers now. It's about time.

    • @AnthonyJones-vk6xq
      @AnthonyJones-vk6xq 2 месяца назад

      In my opinion they are giving huge discounts because they are not selling, here in France they are virtually giving away the cars, people do not want the hassle with charging to start with, add to that the cost of servicing if you can find a garage that will do it and you have a serious problem.
      Secondhand normal non electric car prices have gone up here too.

  • @DGBTSLALUFC
    @DGBTSLALUFC 2 месяца назад

    The new Tesla Model 3 for £39,990 is not bad for what your getting, it's a refresh and a 2024 model! Should have still included the Tesla's IMO in the list.

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +1

      There are no discounts on them. This is about discounts. And I did point out where they’d be.

    • @DGBTSLALUFC
      @DGBTSLALUFC 2 месяца назад

      @ElectricVehicleMan that's fine, but I just thought it could still be put in the list. Just put the same price on either side showing no change, but no problem! 👍

    • @harrycorry3772
      @harrycorry3772 2 месяца назад

      ​@@DGBTSLALUFCAs he said the whole point of the video was a DISCOUNT comparison and not just the new car cost.

  • @L.A.T.E.84
    @L.A.T.E.84 2 месяца назад

    I think you need to bring a video showing the real purchase price of EVs vs ICE cars.

  • @daveg1250
    @daveg1250 2 месяца назад

    Where did you get the e-208 for just under £20,000. The best I can see is a pre-reg for £22,000

    • @IanMcc1000
      @IanMcc1000 2 месяца назад

      I think they have a trim that uses the old parts from last years model, which it a bit cheaper than the rest

    • @ElectricVehicleMan
      @ElectricVehicleMan  2 месяца назад +2

      www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202402096406258
      Quite a few still around.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      £19,990
      RRP £33,360
      Save £13,370

  • @jeremylister89
    @jeremylister89 2 месяца назад

    Interesting. But one thing screams out ..WHERE ARE YOU FORD???

    • @sargfowler9603
      @sargfowler9603 2 месяца назад +3

      Ford doesn't believe in EVs. Thinks it's just a fad!

    • @carlarrowsmith
      @carlarrowsmith 2 месяца назад +2

      @@sargfowler9603 Ford no longer believes in cars either, all SUV and pickups / commercials now.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 месяца назад

      ​@@sargfowler9603I got news for you. Think BETAMAX

  • @TheNemocharlie
    @TheNemocharlie 2 месяца назад

    The Vauxhall Corsa. Eight years ago, a medium spec Corsa had a list price of £14400. Trade magazine says it can be had for £12200. A leaflet comes through the door from the Vauxhall owned dealership saying there's a special deal on and it can be had for £9000. A visit to the dealer is tricky because the area is swamped with Vauxhall Corsa's. Eventually, I make it to the Salesman who spends 20 min banging on about gap insurance, whilst looking like his family are being shot outside in the car park, or Corsa park as it has become. I noticed a large field covered in cars - all Corsa's, acres of them. It takes 5 mins before he offers to sell me one, with free diamond coating and upgraded audio for £6745 if I come back next week when the manager isn't in.
    All around me are signs saying "Vauxhall - supporting the customer".
    Make of that what you will.