Thank you to my brother EVM for helping us out massively and to Heatable for being amazing throughout especially the installation team on the day great lads. Thanks to everyone for their kind words and good wishes.for my family and I. Still a journey ahead but going the right way ❤❤❤❤ thank you
Two years ago right now, I was in hospital with a similar severe infection in my spine. I ran 10 miles one Tuesday, on Thursday I couldn’t stand up! I was only in treatment for four months and thankfully, didn't have a tumour. But, like your brother, had to learn to walk again - as a veteran on many marathons, that came as a shock! Also like your brother, I don't suppose I'll ever be back as I was before the illness. Two things we should all be grateful for - good friends who see you through, and our NHS which means we didn't have to sell our house to pay for the treatment. Thank God for the NHS!
@@crosspeen1absolutely and if you are lucky enough not to need the NHS feel grateful and proud that it is there for those that aren't so lucky and it should be fully supported .
A wake up call for us all on how life can change in the blink of an eye. Wishing your brother a steady recovery and well done for sharing a thought provoking video on some many levels.
We got our REA2 panels with IQ7+ microinverters from Heatable, fitted in Feb this year. We are so happy with the service they provided, very competitively priced and they took great care of us. All the best to your brother, and thank you EVM for putting this very informative video together. Great job (again!) Heatable!
Good luck for a speedy recovery. Love my solar. Installed first panels 30 years ago and there still working. Great to see HUGE price drop and tech improvement over this time. Now sitting in 15kW system and haven't had a power bill for years 😊 Hope your brother's new system performs well. 👍
Sorry to hear of your brotheres health issues and I wish hime all the best for a speedy and full recovery. Great stuff from heatable to do this at cost for him. Great information about all the new options with solar panels. There are definately more options and less panels needed for the same output. I have solar, a battery an ASHP and EV. All of this cost little more to run with the correct tariff when the prices doubled or tripled for others. So yes a great one to stabilise your bills. I now pay less than £100 per month for all my use in the home, for heating and cooking as weel as over 10,000 miles per year in my EV.
Nothing unusual for an array to peak to more than its installed capacity, panels are cold, sun comes out, for a few seconds you get far more than their rated power, happens with any panels - my 8.74kWp system has peaked to just over 9kW and that's not south facing, and its a mixture of 7 years old 250w panels and 1 year old 395w panels, and not bifacial. There is a lot of BBB in these Heatable videos, bifacial are primarily designed to be mounted high above the ground, and get plenty of reflected light, not 100mm or so off a roof, bifacial will give minimal benefit in that scenario. Basically these are not miracle panels, yes they will produce a bit more, especially with a micro inverter if you have shading issues etc.
Heatable are an excellent installer. Once they start painting the area behind the panels white and equipping the IQ8X micro-inverters, which can handle more power, they will be unstoppable in the premium space.
Thanks for this all very interesting as we have had solar panels for 9 years and on a very good generation price, which is indexed linked. Have a SolarEdge inverter and a Solax battery. So if I could get even better panels fitted I bet my license / agreement what is called my FITs payment price would change to a new lower price. As it’s indexed linked I started on 28p for every unit generated, now on 68p. Good to see your brother back home and wish him all the best. We live in Kent England face South and generate from £99 to £350 a month. Good health to all. Bob Blood.
If you wade through ofgem documentation , if you install more solar, you will keep your feed in tariff because it will be paid pro rata . I.e. if you double your array, you will get your fit on half your generation. The cost of replacement panels and electricity will probably make it worthwhile
Best regards to your brother i really wish him well . As a disabled person myself i hope he gets some good help with his assessments and he can get the full amount of PIP he is entitled to as it isn't easy and they are comming for us disabled people again , i have been warning people on Facebook since 2010 and had friends and family unfrend me because of my posts . Also dont put any happy photos on there and lock it off to friends only . Anyway i had no money but when i was 65 i got a surprise pension from a job i had years ago and as im not allowed to keep any money i spent it on solar a battery and an EV and now im here in a warm house next job is Air to Air heat pump Best wishes and i hope he gets lots of benefit from cheaper electricity.
Sorry to hear about your brother. It goes to show you can never take anything for granted. Fingers crossed things go well for him and his family. I’ve been looking forward to the follow up video to Harry’s solar install and this was exactly the detailed information I was looking for as I start my research for my install. 👍🏼
Idea for post: How about how long you have to wait to get a service or repair.. It’s around 3 months for Hyundai here in North Wales.. I don’t think I’ll get another just for this reason.
Got this on independent uk paper. He said marginal difference between costs but this article says its multiples of the price or am I wrong. The Fusion 2 offers an efficiency of 23.9 per cent, a power output of 420W and is priced at £500 per module, making it a premium-priced panel. JA Solar sells a 420W panel delivering an efficiency of 21.5 per cent and priced at £115 each, as does Jinko Tiger, with its module costing £177.
I asked them for a quote to swap my existing 5no panels on my flat garage roof, including the IQ8's Van De Valk mounts are already in place.. £5K = £1K a panel 😳 Just to note...I already have IQ7+ micro inverters so also a straight swap...
if you've got the roof space add more panels and another inverter. A single 2500w inverter is about £300 at cost. That's what I did. Microinverters are often rated to the power of the panel. eg 250w on a 250w panel. Now I've not even seen micro-inverters that are rated to 400w+ despite panels being up to 450w now! You can buy 430w panels at £70-90 on sites like ITS technologies / midsummer solar.
Every single spec sheet for every single panel (and I've seen dozens) are always positive tolerance 0-5w. Never +/- x% like he says. What they do at the factory is measure the assembled panel under the 1000w/m2 light test for a second. If it rates at 421w they call it a 420. If it's 426w they call it a 425w. A 444 a 440w. They're then sold as that rating. It's the same way they rated say a P90 vs a P75 at Intel. The P90 won't crash at that higher # x clock speed.
I have got over 100% from my panels, I have Trina panels and have 4.5 Kwh of panels and have hit that lots of times and at times it goes to 4.8 Kwh the data don't lie.
Health is *The Number One Factor* in the whole of your life. Yet, it is treated like an inconvenience and slowly but surely, it is becoming a business opportunity. If you do not have good physical health, you have nothing. It's the same with mental health. Health should be the top priority of any government. Sadly, it is not. How have we arrived at a situation whereby ex private company health professionals are sitting on NHS trusts? Or in the US where those same professionals are denying healthcare based on outcomes and risk on behalf of insurance companies? If you don't start fighting for a public health service you will no doubt be paying dearly for a private one when you have no other choice (*if* you can afford it?)
All panels drop off by about 0.3% for each 1C above the benchmark 25C rating (the 1000w per metre squared benchmark). Some are 0.29%, some are 0.34%. So don't believe any magic claim about panels not being affected by heat.
Save £700 pounds a year saving. HOW MUCH DOES IT ALL COST. How long before you break even. WIll it all last that long? Will you move house? will you live that long. All these questions have not been answered. PLEASE DO A WHITE BOARD BREAK DOWN.
Less than you think, not as long as you think, yes it will, who knows and heavens knows. My 4.5Kw solar with 10KWH battery was £9500 but the install was easy. I’m saving / making £6-8 a day March - September .
Possibly the wrong question. Tell me the ROI of a new kitchen? Or bathroom? Its a house upgrade that saves money each year. If you have the money to spend, its a great option. I've had my solar panels 10 years, still going strong. My house batteries 5 years, which meant the energy crisis passed me by as my overnight tarif stayed at 7p per kw, which is how I power by home in winter.( solar in summer) I have a 5 bedroomed home and spend less on electricity than people I know with small 3 bed semis.
@@ElectricVehicleMan thanks, I think I remember your friend seemed to be generating 20% more electricity than you per panel, or something like that, so I thought maybe you Explored that a bit more in this video. Looking forward to that comparison, I'm considering getting solar and / or batteries soon
“It will pay for itself “……… haha……does anyone actually believe that? It typically takes 14 years from installation of solar panels to reach break even and in that time you will have had to buy at least two replacement EVs . If you’re over 40 you will likely be dead …..and of course don’t move house.
Spend £4k say and save £700 a year, what do you think? It saves more than it costs and reduces grid usage if that’s something someone wants to do. Feel free to enlighten me!
Yes, 100% of people who understand how saving money over time works, absolutely believes that if you spend money on a thing, that then saves you money each year or makes you money, as long as it last long enough, it pays for itself. So no, your theology degree probably won't pay for itself, but an engineering degree will, a solar panel will. A new ICE car won't pay for itself unless you drive Formula One or something. An electric car will. A new Macbook won't pay for itself, unless you're say, a RUclipsr who uses Mac anyway and can create your videos in less time and make more.
I dont believe it. I know it. My panels are 11 years old. Paid for themselves after 6 years. And they are 220W (best st the time). Newer panels are cheaper and double the power.
Heatable Link: heatable.co.uk/solar?Electric_Vehicle_Man&Affiliate&Solar
Thanks guys!
Thank you to my brother EVM for helping us out massively and to Heatable for being amazing throughout especially the installation team on the day great lads. Thanks to everyone for their kind words and good wishes.for my family and I. Still a journey ahead but going the right way ❤❤❤❤ thank you
Best of luck Simon, get well soon.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
All the best Simon 🙏
Two years ago right now, I was in hospital with a similar severe infection in my spine. I ran 10 miles one Tuesday, on Thursday I couldn’t stand up! I was only in treatment for four months and thankfully, didn't have a tumour. But, like your brother, had to learn to walk again - as a veteran on many marathons, that came as a shock! Also like your brother, I don't suppose I'll ever be back as I was before the illness.
Two things we should all be grateful for - good friends who see you through, and our NHS which means we didn't have to sell our house to pay for the treatment. Thank God for the NHS!
And that's exactly why the NHS is worth protecting, you never know when you might need it!
@@crosspeen1absolutely and if you are lucky enough not to need the NHS feel grateful and proud that it is there for those that aren't so lucky and it should be fully supported .
Nice to see Ben and the Heatable team on the channel 👍
Wow. A sobering video. Hope recovery goes well.
Well done to heatables, and wish your brother a speedy recovery.
I wish your brother well and hope he has a speedy recovery back to health.
A wake up call for us all on how life can change in the blink of an eye. Wishing your brother a steady recovery and well done for sharing a thought provoking video on some many levels.
We got our REA2 panels with IQ7+ microinverters from Heatable, fitted in Feb this year. We are so happy with the service they provided, very competitively priced and they took great care of us.
All the best to your brother, and thank you EVM for putting this very informative video together.
Great job (again!) Heatable!
Good luck for a speedy recovery.
Love my solar. Installed first panels 30 years ago and there still working. Great to see HUGE price drop and tech improvement over this time. Now sitting in 15kW system and haven't had a power bill for years 😊
Hope your brother's new system performs well. 👍
Sorry to hear of your brotheres health issues and I wish hime all the best for a speedy and full recovery. Great stuff from heatable to do this at cost for him. Great information about all the new options with solar panels. There are definately more options and less panels needed for the same output.
I have solar, a battery an ASHP and EV. All of this cost little more to run with the correct tariff when the prices doubled or tripled for others. So yes a great one to stabilise your bills. I now pay less than £100 per month for all my use in the home, for heating and cooking as weel as over 10,000 miles per year in my EV.
Wishing your brother well and all credit to Heatable. One of your best videos to date.
Best wishes to your brother, thank you for your candid explanation of events plus helpful heatable input.
Best wishes to your brother
I hope all goes well with the future operation and wishing for a speedy recovery.
Would be great to see some numbers for how these panels are performing.
All the best to your bro!
Brilliant. Well done good to hear a good news story
My 5.22kwp array generated a peak of 5.8kw in the early spring
Nothing unusual for an array to peak to more than its installed capacity, panels are cold, sun comes out, for a few seconds you get far more than their rated power, happens with any panels - my 8.74kWp system has peaked to just over 9kW and that's not south facing, and its a mixture of 7 years old 250w panels and 1 year old 395w panels, and not bifacial. There is a lot of BBB in these Heatable videos, bifacial are primarily designed to be mounted high above the ground, and get plenty of reflected light, not 100mm or so off a roof, bifacial will give minimal benefit in that scenario. Basically these are not miracle panels, yes they will produce a bit more, especially with a micro inverter if you have shading issues etc.
Heatable are an excellent installer. Once they start painting the area behind the panels white and equipping the IQ8X micro-inverters, which can handle more power, they will be unstoppable in the premium space.
I wish the best for your brother. Missing your reviews. I hope he gets a 100% recovery.
Sending very best wishes to your brother.
Great video - all the best to your brother - stay strong 👍
Very Informative vid, thanks, lads. Best wishes to your brother - can’t imagine how tough a time he’s had.
Thanks for this all very interesting as we have had solar panels for 9 years and on a very good generation price, which is indexed linked. Have a SolarEdge inverter and a Solax battery. So if I could get even better panels fitted I bet my license / agreement what is called my FITs payment price would change to a new lower price. As it’s indexed linked I started on 28p for every unit generated, now on 68p. Good to see your brother back home and wish him all the best.
We live in Kent England face South and generate from £99 to £350 a month. Good health to all. Bob Blood.
If you wade through ofgem documentation , if you install more solar, you will keep your feed in tariff because it will be paid pro rata . I.e. if you double your array, you will get your fit on half your generation. The cost of replacement panels and electricity will probably make it worthwhile
Best regards to your brother i really wish him well . As a disabled person myself i hope he gets some good help with his assessments and he can get the full amount of PIP he is entitled to as it isn't easy and they are comming for us disabled people again , i have been warning people on Facebook since 2010 and had friends and family unfrend me because of my posts .
Also dont put any happy photos on there and lock it off to friends only .
Anyway i had no money but when i was 65 i got a surprise pension from a job i had years ago and as im not allowed to keep any money i spent it on solar a battery and an EV and now im here in a warm house next job is Air to Air heat pump
Best wishes and i hope he gets lots of benefit from cheaper electricity.
Excellent vid thx . Just about to buy a rig and am considering heatable, octopus and ovo . V best wishes to your brother
Thanks for the good information, all the best for your brother
Sorry to hear about your brother. It goes to show you can never take anything for granted. Fingers crossed things go well for him and his family. I’ve been looking forward to the follow up video to Harry’s solar install and this was exactly the detailed information I was looking for as I start my research for my install. 👍🏼
Great Video
Idea for post: How about how long you have to wait to get a service or repair.. It’s around 3 months for Hyundai here in North Wales.. I don’t think I’ll get another just for this reason.
Can only repeat best wishes to your brother already expressed here but felt I wanted to send them anyway.
Definitely sounds worth it.
Interesting!
The tech is moving on so quickly it's hard to keep up with the latest. Good luck to your brother for the future.
Had a mild stroke 7 years ago. Even covered on disability yeah that will mess you up. Good luck. Kick that tumours ass.
Got this on independent uk paper. He said marginal difference between costs but this article says its multiples of the price or am I wrong.
The Fusion 2 offers an efficiency of 23.9 per cent, a power output of 420W and is priced at £500 per module, making it a premium-priced panel. JA Solar sells a 420W panel delivering an efficiency of 21.5 per cent and priced at £115 each, as does Jinko Tiger, with its module costing £177.
It ain’t £500! Or anywhere close from what I’ve seen.
@@ElectricVehicleMan can't find much else on the pricing. Want to check before I enquire about ireland distributors
I asked them for a quote to swap my existing 5no panels on my flat garage roof, including the IQ8's
Van De Valk mounts are already in place..
£5K = £1K a panel 😳
Just to note...I already have IQ7+ micro inverters so also a straight swap...
if you've got the roof space add more panels and another inverter. A single 2500w inverter is about £300 at cost. That's what I did. Microinverters are often rated to the power of the panel. eg 250w on a 250w panel. Now I've not even seen micro-inverters that are rated to 400w+ despite panels being up to 450w now! You can buy 430w panels at £70-90 on sites like ITS technologies / midsummer solar.
Every single spec sheet for every single panel (and I've seen dozens) are always positive tolerance 0-5w. Never +/- x% like he says. What they do at the factory is measure the assembled panel under the 1000w/m2 light test for a second. If it rates at 421w they call it a 420. If it's 426w they call it a 425w. A 444 a 440w. They're then sold as that rating. It's the same way they rated say a P90 vs a P75 at Intel. The P90 won't crash at that higher # x clock speed.
Longi, Jinko, QCell all show their tolerance at +\- 3 or 5%
JA show in watts
Unless this is different for the UK
Nice....advert?
Watch it, it explains everything.
I have got over 100% from my panels, I have Trina panels and have 4.5 Kwh of panels and have hit that lots of times and at times it goes to 4.8 Kwh the data don't lie.
Hard for people to have rainy day fund . Never mind one to cover you up to yesr no work.
Perhaps your bro can get batteries at some point.
Health is *The Number One Factor* in the whole of your life. Yet, it is treated like an inconvenience and slowly but surely, it is becoming a business opportunity. If you do not have good physical health, you have nothing. It's the same with mental health. Health should be the top priority of any government. Sadly, it is not. How have we arrived at a situation whereby ex private company health professionals are sitting on NHS trusts? Or in the US where those same professionals are denying healthcare based on outcomes and risk on behalf of insurance companies? If you don't start fighting for a public health service you will no doubt be paying dearly for a private one when you have no other choice (*if* you can afford it?)
What model are the new 440w rea panels?
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If a panel is £120 why does a system cost £10,000
All panels drop off by about 0.3% for each 1C above the benchmark 25C rating (the 1000w per metre squared benchmark). Some are 0.29%, some are 0.34%. So don't believe any magic claim about panels not being affected by heat.
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It was at this point that EV Man realised he had fucked up.
Save £700 pounds a year saving. HOW MUCH DOES IT ALL COST. How long before you break even. WIll it all last that long? Will you move house? will you live that long. All these questions have not been answered. PLEASE DO A WHITE BOARD BREAK DOWN.
Less than you think, not as long as you think, yes it will, who knows and heavens knows. My 4.5Kw solar with 10KWH battery was £9500 but the install was easy. I’m saving / making £6-8 a day March - September .
Possibly the wrong question. Tell me the ROI of a new kitchen? Or bathroom? Its a house upgrade that saves money each year. If you have the money to spend, its a great option. I've had my solar panels 10 years, still going strong. My house batteries 5 years, which meant the energy crisis passed me by as my overnight tarif stayed at 7p per kw, which is how I power by home in winter.( solar in summer) I have a 5 bedroomed home and spend less on electricity than people I know with small 3 bed semis.
I have done. It’s all in the channel.
"Your milage may vary". Its better if you do your own whiteboard calculation.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I have seen your white board heat pump but not a solar panel breakdown. Please let me have the link.
Sorry to be that guy, but are there any figures or comparisons in this video? I cannot watch the whole video with audio at the moment to check myself
It explains the technical difference, there is a comparison the heatable did between panels.
Our comparison will take time of course.
@@ElectricVehicleMan thanks, I think I remember your friend seemed to be generating 20% more electricity than you per panel, or something like that, so I thought maybe you Explored that a bit more in this video. Looking forward to that comparison, I'm considering getting solar and / or batteries soon
Is it just me, or does the Heatable chap sound like a dodgy salesman talking crap. Who puts bifacials on a roof?
So far Harry is out pacing mine. A lot of panels are bifacial now too.
@@ElectricVehicleMan Is it the panels or the microinverters though?
“It will pay for itself “……… haha……does anyone actually believe that?
It typically takes 14 years from installation of solar panels to reach break even and in that time you will have had to buy at least two replacement EVs . If you’re over 40 you will likely be dead …..and of course don’t move house.
Spend £4k say and save £700 a year, what do you think?
It saves more than it costs and reduces grid usage if that’s something someone wants to do.
Feel free to enlighten me!
Yes, 100% of people who understand how saving money over time works, absolutely believes that if you spend money on a thing, that then saves you money each year or makes you money, as long as it last long enough, it pays for itself. So no, your theology degree probably won't pay for itself, but an engineering degree will, a solar panel will. A new ICE car won't pay for itself unless you drive Formula One or something. An electric car will. A new Macbook won't pay for itself, unless you're say, a RUclipsr who uses Mac anyway and can create your videos in less time and make more.
Yes, it's called maths.
I dont believe it. I know it. My panels are 11 years old. Paid for themselves after 6 years. And they are 220W (best st the time). Newer panels are cheaper and double the power.
4-7 years now. Higher end is for batteries. However 7p/kwh night tariff is too good