Yeah all of us twist-lookers were thinking "what if the wife is the killer or what if they're a team" but I guess they wanted a clean ending where the singer is the hero.
Kind of figured that out after seeing the trailers and seeing who's gonna be in the movie. And yet, it still doesn't come off as clever, as well as being a waste of an amazing Disney Legend.
I disagree. She was the other standout for me after of course JOSH??? Bro absolutely ate that. Also for an M night movie Saleka didnt do bad at all in those standards@@KnightsWhoSayNi222
Yeah, his movies truly are escapes from reality, more than most other directors. I really-respect the way that he shamelessly promoted his daughter and her musical talent with Trap. No one can honestly say that this is ALL 100% nepotism. She DOES have singing talent. This movie just brought a lot more publicity to what has already been there for a few years now.
It really seemed like they were going to have Lady Raven have lost someone to the butcher which would've made more sense for her to be so personally involved. Especially when she keeps noticing the jewelry, it was lame that she got that tip from the old lady profiler instead of a personal recognition.
agreed. M. Night should've hired you as his personal script doctor... Lady Raven's PERSONAL commitment to this whole operation does seem jarring....unless there's something PERSONAL for herself.
I do think it would have been better if it all happened at the concert, and it was far fetched, but this movie was so chaotic and honestly it was so funny to me, I had a lot of fun.
I liked it a lot honestly. It is still just a movie. Yeah a lot of that would have never happened but it's still just supposed to be entertaining. Like Unbreakable. Ain't nobody that strong but it's a movie. You see imagination lol.
I thought it was terrible but FUNNY. There were multiple moments that I had tears going down my face from the wildness 😂 one scene that really got me was when Lady Raven is at the family home, and to stall she goes, ‘Oh I can play a song!’ and the camera just deadpans to a piano against the wall.😅
Is this when she went to the piano so Riley could sit next to her and Lady Raven can quietly pull out and hide her phone? Yes, it was a deliberately funny moment before a tense one. Shyamalan does this all the time since The Visit. It was intentionally funny. And this is obvious to anyone who has watched Shyamalan's films.
@@greggibson33 You just didn't watch the movie or you completely don't understand the combination of funny and tense moments that he uses since The Visit.
I like what you said about wanting it to play out solely at the concert. He could have added some great action and gore(not too much). But I will say the part when the wife confesses her thoughts and actions was really really well done by that actress. To me.
I actually loved that part. I was wondering how they found that ticket for the concert. In a way that was a twist. She knew all along. I was wondering why she didn't freak out when lady raven took his phone. Or at least she didn't think it was weird. She was playing it off the whole time. This all basically happened because of her starting it. That tripped me out.
We were trapped listening to M. Night's daughter sing for about an hour, lol. Also, it was interesting that they made a point several times that Cooper was a fire fighter but couldn't take down a bathroom door to stop Lady Raven.
Definitely-underrated. I feel people who are calling it just a “nepo vehicle” are being dishonest. They just don’t want to admit that Saleka IS talented enough to warrant such a long concert sequence.
Stop copy and paste meme comment. If you watched the movie, you know very well that we didn't hear any songs for an hour, and Cooper was dealing with his family, taking them upstairs and locking them there, and not just trying to break down the door the whole time.
“I don’t believe a famous pop star like her would sacrifice her life for a stranger” but there was an earlier scene where somebody tripped and she helped them back up, explicitly signifying that she is a pinnacle of morality and certified Good Person in the Shyamalan-verse
@@gordonworth5461 that would be kinda weird as Laurie Strode’s son. We don’t need a repeat of Halloween ends when we got a poser trying to be Michael which was so weird for universal to do
No she couldn't ! At this point, she had a FEELING, but no definitive proof ! You don't simply call your husband of 15 years a serial killer when you barely have PROOF ! Feelings are COMPLICATED. You're acting like she "smelled alcohol" on his shirts and immediately went "Yep, you gotta face it Deirdre : He's the butcher ! I'm going to call the police when i come back from the groceries" 🙄
@@JeanVlogDandamme When your choice is anonymous tip and give the address, or anonymous tip leading to the concert, the latter is an utterly stupid choice. For one thing, she is putting her daughter straight into the crosshairs of a thousands SWAT guys. Great mom. For another, the concert may have resolved nothing for all she knows. It's so stupid.
@@ghostlightx9005 She knows for a FACT Cooper would never hurt his daughter or let her get hurt, and she also knows how he always get things done. In her everyday experience, you can't get hurt when next to her husband ! It's bound to make her irrational on that matter. And in her mind, she's probably doing that so her conscience stops nagging her, but telling herself he's not the butcher anyway, and it'll all disappear by itself ! When they come back with lady raven, she's probably feeling that relief...until raven mentions the butcher And even if i'm wrong, then that makes the character stupid, not the story in itself ! Stupid people exist, why couldn't she make a stupid decision out of panic and dilemma ? She's a woman who's been in LOVE with him for 15 YEARS, don't act like she should react like a robot ! "When the choice is bla bla bla..." How about when the choice is about the one you LOVE ???
I loved the concert setting. I haven’t felt that immersed in a while. But that’s about all I liked about it :( Shyamalan really likes using mental issues in his movies, and I don’t love it. It was so unnecessary in this one. ‘Ope, the killer has OCD, so he needs to do this’ as if there aren’t plenty of other reasons to do that.
@@JosephSchwarzkopf-m9kDon’t get me wrong, I love me some Shyamalan. I even love The Visit. People can criticize him without hating him. This movie just wasn’t very good, and that’s okay. It’s very rare for a director to have only amazing movies. And it is a trend in his movies that his villains have mental issues that he uses to explain their actions. It’s a little irresponsible.
@@Johnny-ci8mware you saying that you think that most serial killers don’t have some sort of mental issue ? I think they do and I believe scientific and forensic evidence would back that up Maybe not OCD But certainly sociopathy Or borderline personality disorder So while I could agree that in such an unrealistic movie, why does it have to be that the serial killer is realistically afflicted with a mental issue I think that in a movie about a serial killer there needs to be a mental issue of some sort Unless it’s like a fantasy killer like Freddy or Jason I don’t think everything has to be offensive Most people with mental disorders are not serial killers but most serial killer have a mental disorder is my point I personally have mental disorders Depression and anxiety And it’s pretty bad But I would really have to try and play the victim in order to claim that it’s offensive for mental disorders to be portrayed in a movie They are a part of society They are a part of our culture We can’t start censoring our movies or books or caving in to every little person who has an issue with how a director uses his own money to create his own movie I mean my god If we were to just stop doing everything that “triggered” someone we would literally have to shut down the entire country and just stare at the wall. Assuming walls don’t make people uncomfortable And I’m really quite open minded May not sound like it But I am However unless someone is forcing you to watch it I really can’t fault a guy for doing what he wants in a fiction movie I’m not a huge fan of nepotism But it’s a big part of this movie But it doesn’t offend me That word gets thrown around way too easily these days. Being offended used to carry weight Now it’s just assumed that everything offends someone So why should anyone be careful ?
@@WdawgSmith I don’t disagree with you, but it is unnecessary and extreme in most of his movies. The amount of harm his movies have caused to people suffering with DID and other mental issues can’t be ignored (for me at least - you do you). I’m not saying he should change or people should stop watching his movies. I’m not going to stop watching his movies. I just wish he did it more responsibly. It was totally unnecessary in this movie.
thank you for pointing out that the weird and robotic dialogue was obvious and clearly to show how the main character is a psychopath. it was very Patrick Bateman coded! I had fun watching the movie, but I agree it was predictable and some parts were so unbelievable. I could’ve enjoyed it more if we didn’t know he was the killer from the trailer! also the ending credit scene was hilarious and had the whole theater laughing.
Agree with your review 100%. I had fun overall but it was goofy. Something else that immediately drove me crazy was that concert was so long, there seemed to be multiple breaks in Lady Raven's set where even Josh Hartnett's daughter left her seat so they obviously had enough time to not miss anything, on top of that when they first arrive the daughter says she wanted to be there earlier but her dad says he just got out of work, so WHY with all of that, is it broad daylight still when the concert ends??? That sent me over the edge lol.
They say early on that the evening show was sold out so they added an afternoon show. And the dad says he got out of work early. It’s dumb but they did address what you’re asking about
I will hazard a theory. The father will be found to have the superpower of luck and being able to get away. We will see him again when Night directs a sequel to Glass.
I feel you on SHOWING up for M. Night. Made my parents take me to Glass just days after having surgery because I was so excited about it lmao
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i think if you just shut your brain off and watch for josh hartnett's sexiness, you will enjoy it more. i did this. josh hartnett was so hot in this one 😭😭 imagine m. night making a campy comedy sequel where his character would just escape every time they got him. "noo he escaped again!!!"😂😂
I saw the trailer for this before Twisters and it looked amazing... I'm trying to hold off on getting spoiled because I haven't had the chance to see it in theaters yet!
Honestly love Hayley Mills but she was wasted, maybe Jaime Lee Curtis should’ve been her part so she and Josh get reunited. But maybe she’d have been wasted too. Oh M. Night……
It’s interesting that you mentioned “showing up” for M. Night because I saw Knock at the Cabin in theaters and while I hadn’t been that disappointed in a movie in a long time (don’t even get me started lol), I actually walked away also feeling really happy for supporting authentic representation (with the two leads, Jonathan Groff and Ben Aldridge) because as a gay man, that was the main draw for me. I’ll always show up for my community, no matter the outcome ✊
I think they made the decision to have Cooper get away with so much because of how charismatic a lot of serial killers can be. The amount of times police had a killer in custody but then released them (even if they matched descriptions) is wildly high. I think Night wanted to emulate that with how much Cooper was able to get away with. Generally, I liked the movie but I also agree that I was disappointed when they left the theatre, I would have preferred if the cat and mouse game lasted longer, especially would have loved if they invoked the FBI profiler some more
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I want to ask about the trailer. I'm a huge Saw fan, it's one of my all time favorite franchises. Recently for Saw X, they revealed the "twist" that John's surgery was fake right in the trailer. People were upset about this because it ruins the movie a little bit to know the big reveals before you even see the movie. It sounds like for Trap, they did the same thing. They revealed the dad as the serial killer right in the trailer. My question is, do you think this is becoming some sort of trend? Why would the creators of a movie want to reveal the very thing that draws people to the theaters before they even pay to see it? Wouldn't that cause sales to go down? Is there some marketing scheme I'm not understanding here? I don't want to see more of this in the future because I like not knowing what's going to happen before I sit down to actually watch the film.
I can relate and also like to know very little about a movie before watching. The Saw X reveal probably could have been saved for the movie, bc we know he’ll kill anyone for any reason. But without knowing Cooper is the killer in Trap, I don’t think there would be much suspense to advertise with, it would be too vague to market
Love your reviews so, i haven't watched this movie yet but I'm planning to, so i just muted my tv when spoilers came in. That way you get the full view in your stats 🥰
Thanks for this! Looks like a rental for me. At this point, most of M. Night's films have odd, robotic sounding dialogue. I recently re-watched Knock at the Cabin, and it's the epitome of the "you can write this stuff, but you can't say it" style that he just seems to DO, now. I really don't know why, either. There's a Wes Anderson quirkiness M. Night has tried (see: Signs, the Happening) where the strange dialogue works because it injects some levity. But in Knock at the Cabin, I didn't appreciate it. As long has he keeps getting projects, I suppose we'll have to live with it.
A funny comment(does not reflect my own personal view😆) from another review video: He just makes movies for paying his bills and his wife’s expenses, period. His movies have been crap for years now. I don’t why they keep giving him money to make crap. Dude needs a break to India and come back with a clean head. The part about them giving him money is way off, because he’s been self financing a lot of his recent movies and he’s one of the few headliner directors who’s actually making original movies.
Oh my God, Lady Raven being left alone with him throughout the whole second half of the movie drove me nuts!! 😂 I kept waiting for a good twist - like the wife was also a killer or something.
I enjoyed this one a lot more than most people it seems. I do agree though, that it lost its way a bit once they left the concert venue and it was begging for a big M.Night twist at this point that didn't really materialize - that said the first hour was so enjoyable that I found myself already won over by that point and I loved it
This was genuinely one of the dumbest films I've ever seen. I've been giving this dude the benefit of the doubt for at least a decade now, but Trap ended my hopes of M Night ever writing a good script again.
A funny comment(does not reflect my own personal view😆) from another review video: He just makes movies for paying his bills and his wife’s expenses, period. His movies have been crap for years now. I don’t why they keep giving him money to make crap. Dude needs a break to India and come back with a clean head. The part about them giving him money is way off, because he’s been self financing a lot of his recent movies and he’s one of the few headliner directors who’s actually making original movies.
I understand that the weird dialogue with Cooper was intentional, but some of it came off as pure exposition. For instance, when the guy at the t-shirt stand tells Cooper that it's a police trap with no way out-unless, of course, the killer manages to go backstage - it felt oddly specific and unnatural. For a moment, I even thought Cooper and this guy might know each other and that the t-shirt guy was subtly trying to help him.
what annoyed me the most was that the profiler somehow knew everything he was gonna do the literal moment he was about to do it e.g ''the killer is feeling trapped right now, he's gonna try to cause a panic by pulling a fire alarm'' as that's exactly what he's about to do
So this strange man buys a pop music t-shirt and the dealer takes him around the building and tells him the secret passwords for the FBI police raids. C'mon......
There were some good tidbits in the story. The singer would need serious bravery when she decided to manipulate his daughter to get back to his house rather than dropping them off at the corner. Basically just buying time and looking for the info needed to get the cops involved. But look, he threw down the challenge when he took the singer aside and showed her the prisoner, and put his survival "in her hands". Now she took that personal and decided right then she would not knowingly let that guy die. Different people react to a challenge in different ways, and should we be assuming because she's a celebrity and a pretty girl that she would just walk at her first chance and let that guy die? I thought it was cool that she didn't back down and stayed in the mix. Also Josh dropped a hint that the profiler had "really briefed you very well about me" so you can ponder on what prep they might have given to her. Also i liked when his mind starts racing and shes able to silently get out of the car. His eyes are moving while he tries to figure out how this happened and later you realize this "computation time" is when he probably realized his wife was involved. That was a nice touch.
12:39 I haven't watched the movie and got lost in this part. If the wife found out about the husband and "gave" the jnfo for the fbi, why didn't she just give his name? Was it really better to give this info for the dad to be pursued while he is with the daughter?
She has a "feeling" it was him due to some circumstantial evidence and wanted the concert trap to hopefully prove her hunch wrong (what she said in the movie as a reason for tipping the police)
@@Kimberly-bj9nsstill doesn’t make sense. why as a mom risk her daughter’s safety and for sure traumatizing her by leaving her alone with someone she suspects is a mad serial killer + having FBI disturb the concert and, assumingly, the dad. if her plan work, her daughter would’ve been left alone with strangers at a giant concert while dad is arrested for being f’in Jack the ripper. At worst, dad could’ve taken her hostage, killed people in front of her and gotten killed in front of her.
I actually got pissed at the end because I really wanted to love this movie. He literally attacked a police officer when they were trying to tease him and NO ONE came to rescue or to just shoot him at that point, which at that moment I started thinking: what if this whole movie is to show the difference between the police’s approach to a white criminal AND incopetence, because if that was a black-person he would’ve been shot at sight. Also, if they have a profiler at the scene and she knows how dangerous he is HOW COULD THEY LET HIM DO ANYTHING WITH THE BICYCLE AND NOT NOTICE HE TOOK THE WIRE/ BAR 🤡🤡🤡🤡 I was fuming.
SPOILER WARNING FOR MY COMMENT‼️ The part that really got me was that they let the daughter hug him at the end after the police had him??? Like I just don’t think they would’ve let her get close to him, especially not the mom, knowing that he’s a murderer??? And also just the fact that the daughter did go up and hug him, she was old enough that I feel like she would’ve been more scared of him than wanting a hug from him?
i honestly liked that they took a turn for the second half and SPOILER ALERT: . . . Left the concert and went to his house, because i was honestly starting to get kinda bored of the concert setting, like there was nothing new to be done. I really do think it would've been detrimental for the movie if they stayed there because there's only so much that you can do before it gets old quickly. He's messing around with people, tricking and fooling his way around without getting caught, creating distractions, hiding... at some point there's just nothing else he can do, the possibilities are not infinite within this concert, so leaving it and changing the setting for the second half felt like an organic and refreshing reinvention.
i got to see the movie yesterday and i agree with all your points. the movie wasn't bad at all but some much needed plot points are missing. i enjoyed it though. 💖
Everything I have now heard about this film, I don't think I will even watch it when it eventually streams on some service. The whole concert thing is a big "No" for me, plus, everything was in the trailer already! I didn't bother with Old until it was streaming free and was so glad I didn't. Same with Knock. I think M. Night's time has come and gone. His early stuff was definitely his best.
You are correct. He has proven himself incapable of writing decent scripts anymore. People now only watch his films out of nostalgia or morbid curiosity. Trap was the biggest waste of $12 I could imagine.
I haven't seen it, and don't plan to (I just don't want to empathize with a killer), but what seems strange to me is that Lady Raven would know about this plan, let alone ANY of the employees working there. First of all, this concert would have been planned way in advance, before the police found that ticket stub at the crime scene. So it's not like this concert was intentionally "set up" as a trap. And so why would they even tell any of the performers or employees or ANYONE what they're doing there? If anyone asked, they could simply say "oh, we have a potential terrorist threat, it's just extra security, basically just practice for us." etc. Also, Cooper really didn't have anything to worry about. I mean, it's established that he's such a good liar, I'm sure they wouldn't waste too much time interviewing him. Ironically, it's really only knowledge of their actual plan that makes him panic and draw attention to himself. That would have been cool if the FBI profiler actually purposely had hints dropped, so that he would panic and reveal himself. Which is basically what ended up happening.
I really liked this one. Saleka was great and I really liked that the songs she was singing matched what was going on in the movie. Josh Hartnett was a great lead too of course.
As someone fascinated by true crime, I found it interesting how they obviously took inspiration from Ted Bundy for Cooper. He repeatedly escaped from authorities, he led a normal family life while simultaneously leading a separate existence as a killer, and he pretended to be hurt to lure people in so he could snatch them into his car. I also LOVED Josh Hartnett’s performance. He was phenomenal and while I enjoyed the movie overall (despite having to definitely suspend my disbelief lol), he made the film for me. Finally, like someone else here said, M Night’s movies are inherently rewatchable, even if they’re not his best work. I can’t wait to see it again!
I agree. No popstar would put themselves in a position to get killed or no citizen would go to the house that a killer use to kill people to save that dude
I was so sad it was one of my least favorite MKS movies. So unbelievable...but you are right in the fact that the entertainment factor was still there! Post credit scene made me laugh out loud though haha
People always claim he self-funds everything and yet they’re always produced and distributed by huge corporations like Paramount and Warner Brothers? That’s not my idea of self-funding.
The movie was a “trap”. Our reaction to it is the twist. We think we are going to see a classic suspense thriller like so many others and it ends up being a comedy. Right? That’s what I got out of it
He kept getting away with being checked. Once or twice?, ok maybe, but it was like 5 times they stoped him. Also , the cops never look at him, not even a quick glimpse , it’s like he’s invisible. When he pushed girl down stairs, all they need to do is check cameras. There’s about 50 plot holes in this movie. The extras didn’t seen real, the police didn’t seem real, Hartnett was great tho. Just wasted potential, could’ve been a classic
Spoilers: So they said at the start, that this concert was added at the last moment specifically to set up this big trap to catch the serial killer. But then at the end of the movie we find out they got the idea for the trap by finding a receipt for the ticket to said concert. It cant be both
I love M night’s films but I wanted something more. I was bored during the whole movie until the 3 act where the lady raven went to Josh Hartnett’s house. I also wanted more kills but it seems like we only got 1 kill and it was just a photo.
Actually, for me, the movie really got me when they left the concert. It was decent while they were there but it didn’t click to me as much. Afterwards it was one surprise after another. I was constantly wondering were it’s going next and that’s why I enjoyed it so much
Maybe it’s because I saw Olivia Rodrigo a few days before seeing this movie but I really liked the concert scenes😅. I’m not generally a Shyamalan fan but was pleasantly surprised with how fresh it felt. The suspense in the last bit of the movie was great imo
As a big M. Night and Josh Hartnett fan this was literally my most anticipated movie of the year. I had hyped it up so much, it was honestly impossible for it to be that good as it was in my head haha. But I did really enjoy it and thought it was very fun and entertaining. However, I think it could’ve used a bit more tension and action, also more focus on the actual crimes of the butcher and possibly more violence and gore as well. Saleka’s music for the film was phenomenal and better than a lot of mainstream pop atm.
I actually thought the movie got progressively better after the dream girl scenes. Though that's potentially for a few reasons, I really didn't like all the singing moments, all he really did at the concert was probe ways out so it never really felt high stakes, and when he did get out it was through something that didn't really feel like much before built up to it. So I was kind of relieved when we moved away from the concert. The unbelievablity didn't really bother me since I was having much more fun at that point and I do enjoy a good protagonist shift.
They were focusing a lot on the profiler so I thought she was going to be a bigger part of the story. Like if anyone was going to act like his mother to manipulate him it would've been her. I even thought the twist would be that the dad himself lured the FBI to the stadium so he could get close to the profiler for whatever reason, because I could not fathom how they got a tip that the killer would be at the concert without knowing his identity. But I guess the real reason didn't make sense so I was completely overthinking it.
I’ve been waiting for your review on this!!! I actually really enjoyed it & the concert/music 😂 someone had a theory that the movie was made to promote M Night’s daughter music career & if so it worked for me because I loved the music 😂
Yeah, his movies truly are escapes from reality, more than most other directors. I really-respect the way that he shamelessly promoted his daughter and her musical talent with Trap. No one can honestly say that this is ALL 100% nepotism. She DOES have singing talent. This movie just brought a lot more publicity to what has already been there for a few years now.
Definitely-underrated. I feel people who are calling it just a “nepo vehicle” are being dishonest. They just don’t want to admit that Saleka IS talented enough to warrant such a long concert sequence.
I caught a couple reviews on this one before I saw the movie and while I don't recommend that in most cases, I really think knowing some of the flaws on this film ahead of time actually helped my viewing experience. My disbelief was ultra suspended and other than maybe a couple eye rolls, I really had a good time with this one. Even to the point where I could chuckle at some of the nonsensical stuff. Hartnett really nailed it and for me his performance really helped this film.
5:17 I don’t think the pie was poisoned though? We didn’t see him hallucinating or anything like that, he just got lured by the profiler lady posing as his mom
Why didn't he just walk out and answer their questions? He was meant to be a highly charming and skilled liar. What are they going to ask he can't answer?
@@chelsey1087 , that makes absolutely no sense. He could factory reset his phone and dispose of it. Its also presumably locked and forcing him to unlock would be illegal. I'm pretty sure he could, you know, throw the stolen stuff away before leaving as well.
When lady Raven saw the ring on his daughter's finger she seemed to have picked up on something. I thought it was going to be a ring of lady ravens friend or loved one that the butcher killed. It would have made more sense that she would allow the FBI trap to be set up in the first place at her concert if he had killed a loved one. It would also make more sense that she would have followed him to his house to get revenge for said loved one dying. I thought that was a big missed opportunity. It would have fleshed out Lady Raven's character and made motivations stronger then just saving a random stranger.
I watched this movie yesterday and felt that Shyamalan was the one who actually trapped the audience by shoving his daughter down our throats. I did not like it.
I loved this movie for what it was. After I got over the fact that the movie CLEARLY doesn't take place on a realistic timeline. *SPOILERS BELOW* The way they planned to take down a serial killer at one of the biggest concerts (would agree Lady Raven was about Taylor Swift famous), the way the police acted the entire film, the way Lady Raven was lax about security, the way she went to the family's house and what transpired with her there, all of that would absolutely not have went down like that in our timeline. Now. In a different timeline where all safety goes out the window? Sure, why not. It was really hard for me to just be like "well, I guess this is how they do things here" and roll with it, but after moving past it it was really fun, acting was stellar, it was FUNNY. Definitely will watch again in the future
The police def would've shot him on site if he had a weapon, like you said. Also, the police wouldn't have let the mother/wife stay in that house, there was a freaking TUNNEL in the house...
What I don’t understand is why the wife just didn’t turn him in to the police if she suspected he was the butcher instead of planting the ticket and doing the whole concert trap thing
This movie lost me when, DURING the actual concert, (where young kids pay mucho bucks to see their pop idol) that SO many of them are walking around outside the seating area while Lady Raven is still singing! I mean the roundabout walkways along the food concession were packed with people, not inside listening to the performance. Even his daughter - a true fan- leaves twice! That wdn’t happen. Overall, what a disappointment.
@@DarkPrince784It wasn’t an intermission, they were “changing the stage for the next song”. And the concert resumes while they’re still away from their seats (“hey isn’t this that song you’re always listening to? Let’s get back to our seats”) so it obviously wasn’t a full “intermission”. Even still, a “long” concert would be 3 hours. If this one started at 2pm (because as they said at the beginning, it’s a midday concert), it’s absolutely realistic that it would still be light out by the time they leave.
My opinion…I think ppl are too smart to watch movies. It’s like those kids that skip grades in school because their intellect is higher than their grade level. Yet, ppl act like they still need their hand held, it’s very confusing. Do ppl want to be the characters…but in real life? Like if the situations that happen in these movies happen to a person in actual life, they’ll be able to think fast in a hurry, drop kick the villain, run at high speeds, trick axe wielding maniacs, & rescue the baby at the top of the skyscraper. Piece of cake right? We can go down a whole rabbit hole once we start saying what characters should’ve did; like we’re pitting them up against a situation we would master easily. It’s confusing, to me at least. I liked the movie. It wasn’t perfect, but it wasn’t predictable to me I was surprised at a couple of situations that happened. I give it a 3/5 & it’s re-watchable 😊
I thought the movie was fun and the theatre was full of chuckles throughout. It's not great by any means but it's a good movie to just watch and not think too much about lol
When he says to Lady Raven...'when I saw you i wanted to kill you' (paraphrasing)... I think he was referring to seeing her before the concert...and THAT'S why he took his daughter there to begin with...to kill Raven. Probably totally wrong, but you'd think the mom would take the daughter to the concert, not him, and he's the type of character to be very calculating. Plus, the mom didn't know about the concert until she found the ticket.
This movie lost me as soon as they immediately found parking as they drive in.. lol
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That was where Star Wars Ep 1 lost me 😂 So I understand that
Yes, but who wants to watch them looking for a parking spot😂
@@nina1899Well to be fair, if you couple the scene with interesting dialogue then you could potentially make it watchable
I thought the TWIST was going to be that the wife was in on it and that she was his assistant or something more sinister
I was also hoping for that. The only thing that could have redeemed it.
I also thought so too
I was so ready for Alison Pill to become unhinged
Yeah all of us twist-lookers were thinking "what if the wife is the killer or what if they're a team" but I guess they wanted a clean ending where the singer is the hero.
Yeah this is what I thought too
He wasn’t just a serial killer, he was also a parent. This was a PARENT TRAP!!! That’s why they cast Haley Mills…she’s a parent trap expert.
Kind of figured that out after seeing the trailers and seeing who's gonna be in the movie. And yet, it still doesn't come off as clever, as well as being a waste of an amazing Disney Legend.
My brain was so stuck on Pollyanna that I didn't get the "Parent Trap" joke until I was driving home afterwards lol
Delayed-reaction.😆
When did the FBI start hiring 78 year olds to be profilers? Hilarious.
thats exactly what i said
I thought the idea or thr concept of movie was interesting but I feel like they turned lady raven into a main character out of nowhere
Im glad they did. I reallybliked her character
@@whalewolf7477her acting was awful
I disagree. She was the other standout for me after of course JOSH??? Bro absolutely ate that. Also for an M night movie Saleka didnt do bad at all in those standards@@KnightsWhoSayNi222
Yeah, his movies truly are escapes from reality, more than most other directors. I really-respect the way that he shamelessly promoted his daughter and her musical talent with Trap. No one can honestly say that this is ALL 100% nepotism. She DOES have singing talent. This movie just brought a lot more publicity to what has already been there for a few years now.
I think that's the real "twist" of the movie.
When he took his shirt off I audibly gasped and didn't pay attention to the dialogue for the next few minutes...anyone else?
Heck yeah, he looked so hot! He's such a handsome man. I liked that part 😀.
100% 👀
Me too I was both into it and terrified
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wonder how you reacted to that Deadpool & Wolverine finale, where Jackman's costume just ripped off of his upper super sculpted mid-50s body.... 😂😂
It really seemed like they were going to have Lady Raven have lost someone to the butcher which would've made more sense for her to be so personally involved. Especially when she keeps noticing the jewelry, it was lame that she got that tip from the old lady profiler instead of a personal recognition.
It was really fun, but I too was expecting it to stay at the concert, and I think it would've been better that way.
Seems like @ least 95% of people are saying that.😆
I expected her dad abandoning her to be him actually being a victim or smth...
Wait, when do we see she got the jewelry clue from the profiler ???
I missed that part
agreed.
M. Night should've hired you as his personal script doctor...
Lady Raven's PERSONAL commitment to this whole operation does seem jarring....unless there's something PERSONAL for herself.
I do think it would have been better if it all happened at the concert, and it was far fetched, but this movie was so chaotic and honestly it was so funny to me, I had a lot of fun.
So bad, it was good.😆
@@JosephSchwarzkopf-m9k 100% lol
I liked it a lot honestly. It is still just a movie. Yeah a lot of that would have never happened but it's still just supposed to be entertaining. Like Unbreakable. Ain't nobody that strong but it's a movie. You see imagination lol.
I thought it was terrible but FUNNY. There were multiple moments that I had tears going down my face from the wildness 😂 one scene that really got me was when Lady Raven is at the family home, and to stall she goes, ‘Oh I can play a song!’ and the camera just deadpans to a piano against the wall.😅
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Unintentionally funny doesn't count.😆
Is this when she went to the piano so Riley could sit next to her and Lady Raven can quietly pull out and hide her phone? Yes, it was a deliberately funny moment before a tense one. Shyamalan does this all the time since The Visit. It was intentionally funny. And this is obvious to anyone who has watched Shyamalan's films.
@@greggibson33 You just didn't watch the movie or you completely don't understand the combination of funny and tense moments that he uses since The Visit.
I like what you said about wanting it to play out solely at the concert. He could have added some great action and gore(not too much). But I will say the part when the wife confesses her thoughts and actions was really really well done by that actress. To me.
I actually loved that part. I was wondering how they found that ticket for the concert. In a way that was a twist. She knew all along. I was wondering why she didn't freak out when lady raven took his phone. Or at least she didn't think it was weird. She was playing it off the whole time. This all basically happened because of her starting it. That tripped me out.
We were trapped listening to M. Night's daughter sing for about an hour, lol. Also, it was interesting that they made a point several times that Cooper was a fire fighter but couldn't take down a bathroom door to stop Lady Raven.
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I think him desperately trying to keep his two lives separate from each other and keep up appearances drove that decision.
Definitely-underrated. I feel people who are calling it just a “nepo vehicle” are being dishonest. They just don’t want to admit that Saleka IS talented enough to warrant such a long concert sequence.
Stop copy and paste meme comment. If you watched the movie, you know very well that we didn't hear any songs for an hour, and Cooper was dealing with his family, taking them upstairs and locking them there, and not just trying to break down the door the whole time.
“I don’t believe a famous pop star like her would sacrifice her life for a stranger” but there was an earlier scene where somebody tripped and she helped them back up, explicitly signifying that she is a pinnacle of morality and certified Good Person in the Shyamalan-verse
Exactly!! She just doesn’t get it! 😔
Still didn’t work. The film was very unrealistic unfortunately not his best work.
@Talia778 it's not a deep-cut that anyone needs to get, it's simply stupid.
@@LX8RPretty sure the commenter was sarcastic
Well, she IS his daughter. sooo.😆
Josh Hartnett as a psycho was just so fun to watch.
Loved him in this role for this reason!
That Michael Myers trauma from H2O must’ve turned Josh Hartnett into this. Too bad Laurie didn’t show up to stop him from turning into Michael
I blame the alien from The Faculty.
Josh pushes himself away from people then joins the football team at the end.
Somethings fishy there.
@@robk.6591 lol
This is just middle age Josh from Sin City.
I actually want Josh Hartnett to play Michael Myers in a Halloween movie lol even before this came out I was thinking he could do it lol
@@gordonworth5461 that would be kinda weird as Laurie Strode’s son. We don’t need a repeat of Halloween ends when we got a poser trying to be Michael which was so weird for universal to do
If the wife knew it was him why did they have to set up an elaborate trap. Couldn't she have just told the police to come to her house to get him.
Yeah!
Even if she wasn't sure, an anonymous tip to the cops would have sorted everything quickly and efficiently.
No she couldn't !
At this point, she had a FEELING, but no definitive proof !
You don't simply call your husband of 15 years a serial killer when you barely have PROOF !
Feelings are COMPLICATED. You're acting like she "smelled alcohol" on his shirts and immediately went "Yep, you gotta face it Deirdre : He's the butcher ! I'm going to call the police when i come back from the groceries" 🙄
@@JeanVlogDandamme When your choice is anonymous tip and give the address, or anonymous tip leading to the concert, the latter is an utterly stupid choice. For one thing, she is putting her daughter straight into the crosshairs of a thousands SWAT guys. Great mom. For another, the concert may have resolved nothing for all she knows. It's so stupid.
@@ghostlightx9005 She knows for a FACT Cooper would never hurt his daughter or let her get hurt, and she also knows how he always get things done. In her everyday experience, you can't get hurt when next to her husband ! It's bound to make her irrational on that matter.
And in her mind, she's probably doing that so her conscience stops nagging her, but telling herself he's not the butcher anyway, and it'll all disappear by itself ! When they come back with lady raven, she's probably feeling that relief...until raven mentions the butcher
And even if i'm wrong, then that makes the character stupid, not the story in itself !
Stupid people exist, why couldn't she make a stupid decision out of panic and dilemma ? She's a woman who's been in LOVE with him for 15 YEARS, don't act like she should react like a robot !
"When the choice is bla bla bla..." How about when the choice is about the one you LOVE ???
I loved the concert setting. I haven’t felt that immersed in a while. But that’s about all I liked about it :( Shyamalan really likes using mental issues in his movies, and I don’t love it. It was so unnecessary in this one. ‘Ope, the killer has OCD, so he needs to do this’ as if there aren’t plenty of other reasons to do that.
It IS his film, so he is in charge. One of the reasons why we love his work.😎😆
@@JosephSchwarzkopf-m9kDon’t get me wrong, I love me some Shyamalan. I even love The Visit. People can criticize him without hating him. This movie just wasn’t very good, and that’s okay. It’s very rare for a director to have only amazing movies. And it is a trend in his movies that his villains have mental issues that he uses to explain their actions. It’s a little irresponsible.
@@Johnny-ci8mware you saying that you think that most serial killers don’t have some sort of mental issue ? I think they do and I believe scientific and forensic evidence would back that up Maybe not OCD But certainly sociopathy Or borderline personality disorder
So while I could agree that in such an unrealistic movie, why does it have to be that the serial killer is realistically afflicted with a mental issue I think that in a movie about a serial killer there needs to be a mental issue of some sort Unless it’s like a fantasy killer like Freddy or Jason
I don’t think everything has to be offensive Most people with mental disorders are not serial killers but most serial killer have a mental disorder is my point
I personally have mental disorders Depression and anxiety And it’s pretty bad But I would really have to try and play the victim in order to claim that it’s offensive for mental disorders to be portrayed in a movie They are a part of society They are a part of our culture
We can’t start censoring our movies or books or caving in to every little person who has an issue with how a director uses his own money to create his own movie I mean my god If we were to just stop doing everything that “triggered” someone we would literally have to shut down the entire country and just stare at the wall. Assuming walls don’t make people uncomfortable
And I’m really quite open minded May not sound like it But I am However unless someone is forcing you to watch it I really can’t fault a guy for doing what he wants in a fiction movie I’m not a huge fan of nepotism But it’s a big part of this movie But it doesn’t offend me That word gets thrown around way too easily these days. Being offended used to carry weight Now it’s just assumed that everything offends someone So why should anyone be careful ?
@@WdawgSmith I don’t disagree with you, but it is unnecessary and extreme in most of his movies. The amount of harm his movies have caused to people suffering with DID and other mental issues can’t be ignored (for me at least - you do you). I’m not saying he should change or people should stop watching his movies. I’m not going to stop watching his movies. I just wish he did it more responsibly. It was totally unnecessary in this movie.
The ending would have been so much better and faster if the twist was that the rest of the family was in on it the whole time
thank you for pointing out that the weird and robotic dialogue was obvious and clearly to show how the main character is a psychopath. it was very Patrick Bateman coded! I had fun watching the movie, but I agree it was predictable and some parts were so unbelievable. I could’ve enjoyed it more if we didn’t know he was the killer from the trailer! also the ending credit scene was hilarious and had the whole theater laughing.
Agree with your review 100%. I had fun overall but it was goofy. Something else that immediately drove me crazy was that concert was so long, there seemed to be multiple breaks in Lady Raven's set where even Josh Hartnett's daughter left her seat so they obviously had enough time to not miss anything, on top of that when they first arrive the daughter says she wanted to be there earlier but her dad says he just got out of work, so WHY with all of that, is it broad daylight still when the concert ends??? That sent me over the edge lol.
The Shyamalanverse=A true escape from reality.😎
They say early on that the evening show was sold out so they added an afternoon show. And the dad says he got out of work early. It’s dumb but they did address what you’re asking about
Josh Hartnett is such a talented actor. I have enjoyed every movie or program that he has been in. I'm a big fan of M. Night Shyamalan as well.
I loved him in penny dreadful
I will hazard a theory. The father will be found to have the superpower of luck and being able to get away. We will see him again when Night directs a sequel to Glass.
So basically we need an entire new movie to explain away the utter BS in this movie. Nice.
I kinda wanted Alison Pill to be Mrs Butcher with daddy HOTnett covering up her crimes.
I feel you on SHOWING up for M. Night. Made my parents take me to Glass just days after having surgery because I was so excited about it lmao
i think if you just shut your brain off and watch for josh hartnett's sexiness, you will enjoy it more. i did this. josh hartnett was so hot in this one 😭😭 imagine m. night making a campy comedy sequel where his character would just escape every time they got him. "noo he escaped again!!!"😂😂
Love the thumbnail. It’s so eye catching
Ooh i like your enjoyment vs technicality rating system. They should do that on movie review sites honestly
Right? I usually can gauge that by comparing critic to audience scores on Rotten Tomatoes 🍅
omg you have mentioned every. single. point i had in my mind and explained it so much better than i ever could’ve! i felt the exact same
I love that M night is his own person doing whatever he wants to create. He creates for himself not for Hollywood.
He certainly isn't making it to be entertaining.
Josh Hartnett is daddy. Seriously though I enjoyed the movie but I agree with your points, Sarah.
I felt like the “plot twist” was very much in reference to Ted Bundy and his wife!
I saw the trailer for this before Twisters and it looked amazing... I'm trying to hold off on getting spoiled because I haven't had the chance to see it in theaters yet!
Girl I just wanna say that hair color looks amazing on you. You are glowing in this video!
Honestly love Hayley Mills but she was wasted, maybe Jaime Lee Curtis should’ve been her part so she and Josh get reunited. But maybe she’d have been wasted too. Oh M. Night……
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It’s interesting that you mentioned “showing up” for M. Night because I saw Knock at the Cabin in theaters and while I hadn’t been that disappointed in a movie in a long time (don’t even get me started lol), I actually walked away also feeling really happy for supporting authentic representation (with the two leads, Jonathan Groff and Ben Aldridge) because as a gay man, that was the main draw for me.
I’ll always show up for my community, no matter the outcome ✊
I've done that for female lead films. A bit hit and miss but still happy I did it.
I think they made the decision to have Cooper get away with so much because of how charismatic a lot of serial killers can be. The amount of times police had a killer in custody but then released them (even if they matched descriptions) is wildly high. I think Night wanted to emulate that with how much Cooper was able to get away with.
Generally, I liked the movie but I also agree that I was disappointed when they left the theatre, I would have preferred if the cat and mouse game lasted longer, especially would have loved if they invoked the FBI profiler some more
I was so excited to hear what you thought about this! Also, I love your hair lol ❤
Loving the hair!
Wow all those DVDs in the movie-shelf are in alphabetical order. That's a feat!
It's the only way to keep standard blu-ray/dvds properly organized if you have a lot, I think. I have exceptions with certain directors or franchises.
Talk about unrealistic.😆
Still loving your videos/content since wayyyy back lol u had purple hair and i had blue lmao crazyyy and just wanted to share that as a long time subscriber/supporter im really happy for u/ur family and your videos are still fuckjn great ❤😊
I want to ask about the trailer. I'm a huge Saw fan, it's one of my all time favorite franchises. Recently for Saw X, they revealed the "twist" that John's surgery was fake right in the trailer. People were upset about this because it ruins the movie a little bit to know the big reveals before you even see the movie. It sounds like for Trap, they did the same thing. They revealed the dad as the serial killer right in the trailer. My question is, do you think this is becoming some sort of trend? Why would the creators of a movie want to reveal the very thing that draws people to the theaters before they even pay to see it? Wouldn't that cause sales to go down? Is there some marketing scheme I'm not understanding here? I don't want to see more of this in the future because I like not knowing what's going to happen before I sit down to actually watch the film.
Yeah, have to sequester yourself, like a juror.😆
I can relate and also like to know very little about a movie before watching. The Saw X reveal probably could have been saved for the movie, bc we know he’ll kill anyone for any reason. But without knowing Cooper is the killer in Trap, I don’t think there would be much suspense to advertise with, it would be too vague to market
I thought it was a fun ride. The entire thing was so unbelievable you just gotta vibe lol.
Love your reviews so, i haven't watched this movie yet but I'm planning to, so i just muted my tv when spoilers came in. That way you get the full view in your stats 🥰
I saw this movie in theaters on Saturday with mom and sister-in-law and we all really liked it!
Thanks for this! Looks like a rental for me. At this point, most of M. Night's films have odd, robotic sounding dialogue. I recently re-watched Knock at the Cabin, and it's the epitome of the "you can write this stuff, but you can't say it" style that he just seems to DO, now. I really don't know why, either. There's a Wes Anderson quirkiness M. Night has tried (see: Signs, the Happening) where the strange dialogue works because it injects some levity. But in Knock at the Cabin, I didn't appreciate it. As long has he keeps getting projects, I suppose we'll have to live with it.
A funny comment(does not reflect my own personal view😆) from another review video:
He just makes movies for paying his bills and his wife’s
expenses, period. His movies have been crap for years now. I don’t why they keep giving him money to make crap. Dude needs a break to India and come back with a clean head.
The part about them giving him money is way off, because he’s been self financing a lot of his recent movies and he’s one of the few headliner directors who’s actually making original movies.
Oh my God, Lady Raven being left alone with him throughout the whole second half of the movie drove me nuts!! 😂 I kept waiting for a good twist - like the wife was also a killer or something.
I enjoyed this one a lot more than most people it seems. I do agree though, that it lost its way a bit once they left the concert venue and it was begging for a big M.Night twist at this point that didn't really materialize - that said the first hour was so enjoyable that I found myself already won over by that point and I loved it
This was genuinely one of the dumbest films I've ever seen. I've been giving this dude the benefit of the doubt for at least a decade now, but Trap ended my hopes of M Night ever writing a good script again.
A funny comment(does not reflect my own personal view😆) from another review video:
He just makes movies for paying his bills and his wife’s
expenses, period. His movies have been crap for years now. I don’t why they keep giving him money to make crap. Dude needs a break to India and come back with a clean head.
The part about them giving him money is way off, because he’s been self financing a lot of his recent movies and he’s one of the few headliner directors who’s actually making original movies.
I understand that the weird dialogue with Cooper was intentional, but some of it came off as pure exposition. For instance, when the guy at the t-shirt stand tells Cooper that it's a police trap with no way out-unless, of course, the killer manages to go backstage - it felt oddly specific and unnatural. For a moment, I even thought Cooper and this guy might know each other and that the t-shirt guy was subtly trying to help him.
Yeah the dialogue felt so unnatural
what annoyed me the most was that the profiler somehow knew everything he was gonna do the literal moment he was about to do it
e.g ''the killer is feeling trapped right now, he's gonna try to cause a panic by pulling a fire alarm'' as that's exactly what he's about to do
So this strange man buys a pop music t-shirt and the dealer takes him around the building and tells him the secret passwords for the FBI police raids. C'mon......
I thought it was absolutely horrible.
I haven't even seen this movie and I want my money back.
why it was fun
The plot holes and bad writing are enough to keep me away.
I did watch it and deeply regret losing that money.
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Okay can we just take a moment for the hair. It looks soooo good! This color really suits you. ✨
There were some good tidbits in the story. The singer would need serious bravery when she decided to manipulate his daughter to get back to his house rather than dropping them off at the corner. Basically just buying time and looking for the info needed to get the cops involved. But look, he threw down the challenge when he took the singer aside and showed her the prisoner, and put his survival "in her hands". Now she took that personal and decided right then she would not knowingly let that guy die. Different people react to a challenge in different ways, and should we be assuming because she's a celebrity and a pretty girl that she would just walk at her first chance and let that guy die? I thought it was cool that she didn't back down and stayed in the mix. Also Josh dropped a hint that the profiler had "really briefed you very well about me" so you can ponder on what prep they might have given to her. Also i liked when his mind starts racing and shes able to silently get out of the car. His eyes are moving while he tries to figure out how this happened and later you realize this "computation time" is when he probably realized his wife was involved. That was a nice touch.
12:39 I haven't watched the movie and got lost in this part. If the wife found out about the husband and "gave" the jnfo for the fbi, why didn't she just give his name? Was it really better to give this info for the dad to be pursued while he is with the daughter?
She has a "feeling" it was him due to some circumstantial evidence and wanted the concert trap to hopefully prove her hunch wrong (what she said in the movie as a reason for tipping the police)
@@Kimberly-bj9ns thank you! Makes more sense now. She could have been more direct, but was conflicted and hoping to be wrong, got it.
@@Kimberly-bj9nsstill doesn’t make sense. why as a mom risk her daughter’s safety and for sure traumatizing her by leaving her alone with someone she suspects is a mad serial killer + having FBI disturb the concert and, assumingly, the dad. if her plan work, her daughter would’ve been left alone with strangers at a giant concert while dad is arrested for being f’in Jack the ripper. At worst, dad could’ve taken her hostage, killed people in front of her and gotten killed in front of her.
Movies are supposed to entertain. I was entertained.
I actually got pissed at the end because I really wanted to love this movie.
He literally attacked a police officer when they were trying to tease him and NO ONE came to rescue or to just shoot him at that point, which at that moment I started thinking: what if this whole movie is to show the difference between the police’s approach to a white criminal AND incopetence, because if that was a black-person he would’ve been shot at sight.
Also, if they have a profiler at the scene and she knows how dangerous he is HOW COULD THEY LET HIM DO ANYTHING WITH THE BICYCLE AND NOT NOTICE HE TOOK THE WIRE/ BAR 🤡🤡🤡🤡 I was fuming.
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The part that really got me was that they let the daughter hug him at the end after the police had him??? Like I just don’t think they would’ve let her get close to him, especially not the mom, knowing that he’s a murderer??? And also just the fact that the daughter did go up and hug him, she was old enough that I feel like she would’ve been more scared of him than wanting a hug from him?
The SWAT team members on the roof didn’t even ask him his name or for a picture ID like his driver's license.
Terrible movie. I’m just glad my girlfriend paid this time 😂👍🏽
i honestly liked that they took a turn for the second half and SPOILER ALERT:
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Left the concert and went to his house, because i was honestly starting to get kinda bored of the concert setting, like there was nothing new to be done. I really do think it would've been detrimental for the movie if they stayed there because there's only so much that you can do before it gets old quickly. He's messing around with people, tricking and fooling his way around without getting caught, creating distractions, hiding... at some point there's just nothing else he can do, the possibilities are not infinite within this concert, so leaving it and changing the setting for the second half felt like an organic and refreshing reinvention.
i got to see the movie yesterday and i agree with all your points. the movie wasn't bad at all but some much needed plot points are missing. i enjoyed it though. 💖
Everything I have now heard about this film, I don't think I will even watch it when it eventually streams on some service. The whole concert thing is a big "No" for me, plus, everything was in the trailer already! I didn't bother with Old until it was streaming free and was so glad I didn't. Same with Knock. I think M. Night's time has come and gone. His early stuff was definitely his best.
You should see it.
You are correct. He has proven himself incapable of writing decent scripts anymore. People now only watch his films out of nostalgia or morbid curiosity.
Trap was the biggest waste of $12 I could imagine.
For me it was a big miss
I haven't seen it, and don't plan to (I just don't want to empathize with a killer), but what seems strange to me is that Lady Raven would know about this plan, let alone ANY of the employees working there. First of all, this concert would have been planned way in advance, before the police found that ticket stub at the crime scene. So it's not like this concert was intentionally "set up" as a trap. And so why would they even tell any of the performers or employees or ANYONE what they're doing there? If anyone asked, they could simply say "oh, we have a potential terrorist threat, it's just extra security, basically just practice for us." etc.
Also, Cooper really didn't have anything to worry about. I mean, it's established that he's such a good liar, I'm sure they wouldn't waste too much time interviewing him. Ironically, it's really only knowledge of their actual plan that makes him panic and draw attention to himself. That would have been cool if the FBI profiler actually purposely had hints dropped, so that he would panic and reveal himself. Which is basically what ended up happening.
I really liked this one. Saleka was great and I really liked that the songs she was singing matched what was going on in the movie. Josh Hartnett was a great lead too of course.
As someone fascinated by true crime, I found it interesting how they obviously took inspiration from Ted Bundy for Cooper. He repeatedly escaped from authorities, he led a normal family life while simultaneously leading a separate existence as a killer, and he pretended to be hurt to lure people in so he could snatch them into his car. I also LOVED Josh Hartnett’s performance. He was phenomenal and while I enjoyed the movie overall (despite having to definitely suspend my disbelief lol), he made the film for me. Finally, like someone else here said, M Night’s movies are inherently rewatchable, even if they’re not his best work. I can’t wait to see it again!
I agree. No popstar would put themselves in a position to get killed or no citizen would go to the house that a killer use to kill people to save that dude
I was so sad it was one of my least favorite MKS movies. So unbelievable...but you are right in the fact that the entertainment factor was still there! Post credit scene made me laugh out loud though haha
People always claim he self-funds everything and yet they’re always produced and distributed by huge corporations like Paramount and Warner Brothers? That’s not my idea of self-funding.
this told me everything i need to know. i will be waiting for streaming to watch it
i wanted to love to so bad, but a lot of it was ultimately laughable. a pop star at risk would’ve been way way way more protected.
The movie was a “trap”. Our reaction to it is the twist. We think we are going to see a classic suspense thriller like so many others and it ends up being a comedy. Right? That’s what I got out of it
He kept getting away with being checked. Once or twice?, ok maybe, but it was like 5 times they stoped him. Also , the cops never look at him, not even a quick glimpse , it’s like he’s invisible. When he pushed girl down stairs, all they need to do is check cameras. There’s about 50 plot holes in this movie. The extras didn’t seen real, the police didn’t seem real, Hartnett was great tho. Just wasted potential, could’ve been a classic
Your hair color is so pretty!
Spoilers: So they said at the start, that this concert was added at the last moment specifically to set up this big trap to catch the serial killer.
But then at the end of the movie we find out they got the idea for the trap by finding a receipt for the ticket to said concert.
It cant be both
I love M night’s films but I wanted something more. I was bored during the whole movie until the 3 act where the lady raven went to Josh Hartnett’s house. I also wanted more kills but it seems like we only got 1 kill and it was just a photo.
Actually, for me, the movie really got me when they left the concert. It was decent while they were there but it didn’t click to me as much. Afterwards it was one surprise after another. I was constantly wondering were it’s going next and that’s why I enjoyed it so much
Maybe it’s because I saw Olivia Rodrigo a few days before seeing this movie but I really liked the concert scenes😅. I’m not generally a Shyamalan fan but was pleasantly surprised with how fresh it felt. The suspense in the last bit of the movie was great imo
I saw In A Violent Nature instead of this and I’m so happy I made that choice. I’ve only ever liked Signs so was not going to risk it.
I hadn’t watched the trailer and got spoiled by the thing you said in the beginning of this review 😬 could’ve at least given a warning man
As a big M. Night and Josh Hartnett fan this was literally my most anticipated movie of the year. I had hyped it up so much, it was honestly impossible for it to be that good as it was in my head haha. But I did really enjoy it and thought it was very fun and entertaining. However, I think it could’ve used a bit more tension and action, also more focus on the actual crimes of the butcher and possibly more violence and gore as well. Saleka’s music for the film was phenomenal and better than a lot of mainstream pop atm.
I actually thought the movie got progressively better after the dream girl scenes. Though that's potentially for a few reasons, I really didn't like all the singing moments, all he really did at the concert was probe ways out so it never really felt high stakes, and when he did get out it was through something that didn't really feel like much before built up to it. So I was kind of relieved when we moved away from the concert. The unbelievablity didn't really bother me since I was having much more fun at that point and I do enjoy a good protagonist shift.
They were focusing a lot on the profiler so I thought she was going to be a bigger part of the story. Like if anyone was going to act like his mother to manipulate him it would've been her. I even thought the twist would be that the dad himself lured the FBI to the stadium so he could get close to the profiler for whatever reason, because I could not fathom how they got a tip that the killer would be at the concert without knowing his identity. But I guess the real reason didn't make sense so I was completely overthinking it.
It might’ve been a flawed movie but I was intrigued and interested from start to finish
I’ve been waiting for your review on this!!! I actually really enjoyed it & the concert/music 😂 someone had a theory that the movie was made to promote M Night’s daughter music career & if so it worked for me because I loved the music 😂
@@jessiegriggs9872 that’s partly it! they’re even selling the album, it’s all her original music.
Yeah, his movies truly are escapes from reality, more than most other directors. I really-respect the way that he shamelessly promoted his daughter and her musical talent with Trap. No one can honestly say that this is ALL 100% nepotism. She DOES have singing talent. This movie just brought a lot more publicity to what has already been there for a few years now.
Definitely-underrated. I feel people who are calling it just a “nepo vehicle” are being dishonest. They just don’t want to admit that Saleka IS talented enough to warrant such a long concert sequence.
@@JosephSchwarzkopf-m9k I loved the music & she is so talented!
@@JosephSchwarzkopf-m9k I don’t think it’s nepotism at all!
I caught a couple reviews on this one before I saw the movie and while I don't recommend that in most cases, I really think knowing some of the flaws on this film ahead of time actually helped my viewing experience. My disbelief was ultra suspended and other than maybe a couple eye rolls, I really had a good time with this one. Even to the point where I could chuckle at some of the nonsensical stuff. Hartnett really nailed it and for me his performance really helped this film.
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5:17 I don’t think the pie was poisoned though? We didn’t see him hallucinating or anything like that, he just got lured by the profiler lady posing as his mom
He noticed a powder on the plate after he ate it, said something like “you got into my bag” and then he was dizzy and uncoordinated after eating it
Why didn't he just walk out and answer their questions? He was meant to be a highly charming and skilled liar. What are they going to ask he can't answer?
They could have checked his phone and saw the missing person he abducted, and saw that he stole some stuff from in the arena
@@chelsey1087 , that makes absolutely no sense. He could factory reset his phone and dispose of it. Its also presumably locked and forcing him to unlock would be illegal. I'm pretty sure he could, you know, throw the stolen stuff away before leaving as well.
When lady Raven saw the ring on his daughter's finger she seemed to have picked up on something. I thought it was going to be a ring of lady ravens friend or loved one that the butcher killed. It would have made more sense that she would allow the FBI trap to be set up in the first place at her concert if he had killed a loved one. It would also make more sense that she would have followed him to his house to get revenge for said loved one dying. I thought that was a big missed opportunity. It would have fleshed out Lady Raven's character and made motivations stronger then just saving a random stranger.
I watched this movie yesterday and felt that Shyamalan was the one who actually trapped the audience by shoving his daughter down our throats. I did not like it.
Watch it with no searching for plot holes. You’ll enjoy it
Man, I am a fan on M. night too, but this plot was lazy and really make me wonder if he thinks we are dumb.
I loved this movie for what it was. After I got over the fact that the movie CLEARLY doesn't take place on a realistic timeline.
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The way they planned to take down a serial killer at one of the biggest concerts (would agree Lady Raven was about Taylor Swift famous), the way the police acted the entire film, the way Lady Raven was lax about security, the way she went to the family's house and what transpired with her there, all of that would absolutely not have went down like that in our timeline. Now. In a different timeline where all safety goes out the window? Sure, why not.
It was really hard for me to just be like "well, I guess this is how they do things here" and roll with it, but after moving past it it was really fun, acting was stellar, it was FUNNY. Definitely will watch again in the future
The police def would've shot him on site if he had a weapon, like you said. Also, the police wouldn't have let the mother/wife stay in that house, there was a freaking TUNNEL in the house...
What I don’t understand is why the wife just didn’t turn him in to the police if she suspected he was the butcher instead of planting the ticket and doing the whole concert trap thing
Perfect breakdown as always. thanks for the review!
This movie lost me when, DURING the actual concert, (where young kids pay mucho bucks to see their pop idol) that SO many of them are walking around outside the seating area while Lady Raven is still singing! I mean the roundabout walkways along the food concession were packed with people, not inside listening to the performance. Even his daughter - a true fan- leaves twice! That wdn’t happen. Overall, what a disappointment.
Can you address the huge continuity error… They get out of a concert and it’s still light outside, the middle of the day? Didn’t make any sense.
Well it was a short concert for one and the concert was midday…
That was not a short concert. I counted at least two intermissions.
The Shyamalanverse=A true escape from reality.😎
They specifically said at the beginning that it was a midday concert.
@@DarkPrince784It wasn’t an intermission, they were “changing the stage for the next song”. And the concert resumes while they’re still away from their seats (“hey isn’t this that song you’re always listening to? Let’s get back to our seats”) so it obviously wasn’t a full “intermission”.
Even still, a “long” concert would be 3 hours. If this one started at 2pm (because as they said at the beginning, it’s a midday concert), it’s absolutely realistic that it would still be light out by the time they leave.
I COMPLETELY agree. So unrealistic and predictable, but I had fun watching it in the theater at least.
My opinion…I think ppl are too smart to watch movies. It’s like those kids that skip grades in school because their intellect is higher than their grade level. Yet, ppl act like they still need their hand held, it’s very confusing. Do ppl want to be the characters…but in real life? Like if the situations that happen in these movies happen to a person in actual life, they’ll be able to think fast in a hurry, drop kick the villain, run at high speeds, trick axe wielding maniacs, & rescue the baby at the top of the skyscraper. Piece of cake right? We can go down a whole rabbit hole once we start saying what characters should’ve did; like we’re pitting them up against a situation we would master easily. It’s confusing, to me at least. I liked the movie. It wasn’t perfect, but it wasn’t predictable to me I was surprised at a couple of situations that happened. I give it a 3/5 & it’s re-watchable 😊
I thought the movie was fun and the theatre was full of chuckles throughout. It's not great by any means but it's a good movie to just watch and not think too much about lol
When he says to Lady Raven...'when I saw you i wanted to kill you' (paraphrasing)... I think he was referring to seeing her before the concert...and THAT'S why he took his daughter there to begin with...to kill Raven. Probably totally wrong, but you'd think the mom would take the daughter to the concert, not him, and he's the type of character to be very calculating. Plus, the mom didn't know about the concert until she found the ticket.