Bryan Johnson "when I do these dinners at my house the punchline I I tell them is that everything you care about everything you identify with everything you do everything you've built you invested your entire life in could be taken away from from you in this future" Whatever it is and why it happens - if its beeing taken away without our consent and our ability to structure and create the outcomes it is not "right". How would such a reduction in agency ever incrase life quality however long this life might be?
The stuff you care about may not be forcibly taken from you. It might just not matter any more. For example, if you are a software developer, and AI can program better than all software developers, you could still program your own software. But, your own coding would just be categorically worse than AI coding. Does that take the meaning of coding away from you? For many, I think it would.
Are you still beathing? This is you playing don't die. Also, as far as us humans not knowing what we want and experience, "Different realities," I recommend this specific video from Impact Theory Podcast with Tom Bilyeu and Andrew Bustamante(former CIA officer) : ruclips.net/video/l46oWMu3b9M/видео.html, that explains the use and truth to this. Argument over. Thank you for sharing your journey with us Bryan.
I disagree on the idea that AI subsumes us completely. It isn't the case that in every major step in the evolution of systems leaves the previous epoch to be without position. I love you Brian but you take it too far (though im glad you take that position). It is not clear that the space of information that AI will explore will include the space of information explored by previous systems. I have no doubt that AI will explore a much larger space than humans do, however we need to think carefully about how these spaces are emergent. (Really loose thinking tool here but just to inspire thinking) Lets consider if we could imagine a domain of all possible knowledge (uncountably infinite). Compacting of that space could be informed by macro/ meso/ micro constraints and be identified as emergent combinatorial spaces (countably infinite), where metrics can be applied to them. The metric structure and the ability to search the space organized by the metric will yield different informational capture. In this sort of analogy to topology there is ample room to think about why/ how different kinds of systems are still useful for exploring the uncountably infinite domain via the combinatorial spaces; despite there being more powerful systems.
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The middle guy does not let Bryan complete or even speak many times. Pain in the ass!
I like his questioning
Bryan speaks 85% of the time. What type of reality do you live in?
Great talk !
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Bryan Johnson
"when I do these dinners at my house the punchline I I tell them is
that everything you care about everything you identify with everything you do everything you've built you
invested your entire life in could be taken away from from you in this future"
Whatever it is and why it happens - if its beeing taken away without our consent and our ability to structure and create the outcomes it is not "right".
How would such a reduction in agency ever incrase life quality however long this life might be?
The stuff you care about may not be forcibly taken from you. It might just not matter any more.
For example, if you are a software developer, and AI can program better than all software developers, you could still program your own software. But, your own coding would just be categorically worse than AI coding. Does that take the meaning of coding away from you? For many, I think it would.
Let’s add “Don’t Kill” and I think we’re on to something .
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Are you still beathing? This is you playing don't die. Also, as far as us humans not knowing what we want and experience, "Different realities," I recommend this specific video from Impact Theory Podcast with Tom Bilyeu and Andrew Bustamante(former CIA officer)
: ruclips.net/video/l46oWMu3b9M/видео.html, that explains the use and truth to this.
Argument over. Thank you for sharing your journey with us Bryan.
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I disagree on the idea that AI subsumes us completely. It isn't the case that in every major step in the evolution of systems leaves the previous epoch to be without position. I love you Brian but you take it too far (though im glad you take that position). It is not clear that the space of information that AI will explore will include the space of information explored by previous systems. I have no doubt that AI will explore a much larger space than humans do, however we need to think carefully about how these spaces are emergent.
(Really loose thinking tool here but just to inspire thinking)
Lets consider if we could imagine a domain of all possible knowledge (uncountably infinite). Compacting of that space could be informed by macro/ meso/ micro constraints and be identified as emergent combinatorial spaces (countably infinite), where metrics can be applied to them. The metric structure and the ability to search the space organized by the metric will yield different informational capture. In this sort of analogy to topology there is ample room to think about why/ how different kinds of systems are still useful for exploring the uncountably infinite domain via the combinatorial spaces; despite there being more powerful systems.