I went out and tried technique 1 this morning. I did not realize how easy that method was. Thanks for your insightful knowledge and thanks for making me a better cirrus pilot.
You forgot one. Cirrus pilots must always land at a field that has a heliport because what they’ll do is just fly over the field and look for the heliport and pull the cute and bring her down gently onto the pad.
Just found your channel so you have a new subscriber. As a Cirrus driver I have learned a lot just from this video. My CSIP told me that there is never any reason to go around in a Cirrus, just pull the chute.
I recommend the denial-heavy "Oops method". I use this along with the top tips Bryan provided, in his "ATC communications" educational video. I am queen of the skies, everyone avoids me, yet I hear nobody complain, ever. With love from North London, UK. I think.
Hilarious! I'll have to try pre-programming the auto pilot before hitting the "up, up, and away" lever on the Piper; unless, of course, it places me too close to a Cirrus at the next airport...
You got it. S-turns are equally good for improving take-off distance available - for aircraft so old or flimsy that they have neither a TOGA switch or an Up-and-Away lever.
@@mikeryan6277 from my quick Googling that’s exactly how they beekeep, by listening. I haven’t been stung in two years but that said I haven’t opened a hive in two years either. The drive by stingings stopped too. Met a retired beekeeper, he gave it up to take up flying. Perhaps that’s my future.
@@mikeryan6277 I wasn’t joking there lol, I let that particular hive die. Husband of my wife ‘s friend keeps birds, I told him not to keep bees, the marriage would t survive if he gets mixed up in the birds and the bees
The "other" pattern clearly provides a superior 360 degrees look-out for other traffic. Keep doing those extra safe "other" style base turns, the greater path distance means they can be initiated from a greater altitude, which is also safer in case of engine trouble (I guess this is why BrYan advocates full speed landings too). Now that you mention it, this sort of nuggets will probably fit nicely in the passenger pre-flight safety briefings - the passengers will certainly be more at ease knowing these things!
Classic. Don’t forget the “shooting ILS approach to missed approach point towards opposite traffic” during high activity hours with a full pattern of students.
Clever! Laughing at yourself is the best way to keep learning and putting minor errors behind you. Some truth here though, to a Cirrus pilot, a "short" approach is what they perform in the morning, "Hmm, cargo pockets today or sexy & smooth?"
Most cirrus pilots are blind and oblivious to traffic patterns , " Cirrus 12345, 40 miles to the southwest, lined up for a straight in approach , 30 miles, 20 miles, 10 mile final , any traffic any the area please be advised we have a cirrus pilot in the area please vacate the area immediately"....ha!! j/k
I've been teaching it wrong all along. Thanks! I'll update my syllabus asap and tell all my students to only use caps until they get updated on the new process.
As a Member of the Board of Sightless Apiculturists Minors (SAMs), I am highly offended by the comment at the beginning of this video. You have never once been at one of our meetings. I think your claim to be an instructor for us is fake news.
Thanks man, I always mess up square patterns, rectangular patterns and circular patterns…If you have a sec could also you explain the kidney shaped pattern? You da best…
I learned a lot from this video BrYan. Having never flown a Cirrus for the obvious reasons of expense, demand, and possessing excellent airmanship, I find myself a bit jealous of the numerous options for pattern entry. I guess the older I get, the more technological advancements render any real thought processes or skills as meaningless as my hopes and dreams. Perhaps I have been too harsh in my judgement of the Cirrus. Yes. I will buy one. Edit: Yeah bud, just checked the prices. I can get like 4 doctor killers for that kind of bank. With glass cockpits. Probably a lap dance, too. F*$# Cirrus, man. Great video, tho
As Capt. Bill Shakespeare said whilst flying his King Learjet "Jesters do oft prove prophets ..." - you gotta tone it down a bit though - I nearly gave myself asthma I was laughing so hard ...
#4 combined with #3 and a sprinkle of #2 methods are how most folks get into KBDN, Cirrus and Citation alike. However, you didn’t cover the most consistent method used here: listen to CTAF and do exactly the opposite of what everyone else is doing at a block altitude typically reserved for wildlife activity without making any calls whatsoever.
Cirrusouly 🤣🛫 I enjoy your satire! Especially the explanation of your students. I bet the AFW FSDO is shaking their heads and they are making rattle can like noises! Keep up the good work!😁🛫
Beekeeping to blind kids at the skating rink. Okay, that's one of the best 'instructor' ones you've come up with yet. Okay, these were funny, but I'm looking forward to the Debonaire Traffic Patterns, or anything involving a Beech Bonanza! I guess the question becomes "Now that you're getting the Debonaire, are you going to stop mooching off of your Dad and not fly is Cirrus anymore?" :D :)
HAHAH!!! I am upgradinng but so is he. I expect next year I will be flying some Bonanza variant and when able I will be "borrowing" his G3. Dad is flying a ton these days working on his IR. after his checkride, he is going to upgrade. But sticking with Cirrus. I can't wait to see what the future holds. He's my favorite person to fly with.
@@JustPlaneSilly well, I really hope you end up with that 1960 Deb, that's a really nice airplane, except for the paint job. As to your Dad, it's great that you enjoy flying with him. I also wish him the best in getting his instrument rating. Next, both of you are going to need to get your Commercial license and then the CFI, CFII, CFIM, CFIIM and whatever else. You need to pick up a Diamond DA-42! If I was still flying, or even able to fly, and I had the money, the DA-42 is the airplane I want to own.
Can I share that the owner of my flight club is a beekeeper and often brings hives to the hangar? And my CFI is allergic? One of these days, I might learn a very different, interesting, and harrowing style of flying.
You missed very important points, one, be sure to point the tail at the nearest open hangar. Set the brakes, start the engine and bring the power to at least 2000rpm. Stay there with the brakes set for 20 minutes. Also consider the overhead approach, where you get over the top then pull chute.
I think I'm using the oops method in the C172 and feel kinda foolish now. Like pretending I have a side stick and flying really fast. Are you planning a giveaway of your new baseball cap???? I like it!
Straight out departure to a straight in 24 mile approach is the only was to do it! Why do they even put ailerons and a rudder on the airframe anyway? Just need the go fly lever and AP button!
Truth is, I don't require a great deal of sleep. I tend to edit videos after the family has gone to sleep. Also I am an IT guy meaning I spend most of my day at a computer. I always have notepad up and I constantly jot down notes when something pops into my head. I am going back to 1 video every other week because it is too taxing at the rate I have been putting them out.
@@BlackwaterBud for sure but you are smack dab in the middle of a comedy channel stating "not a joking matter" Everything here is a joking matter. This is where we come to unwad our panties.
I went out and tried technique 1 this morning. I did not realize how easy that method was. Thanks for your insightful knowledge and thanks for making me a better cirrus pilot.
You have such a great sense of humor and can deliver with such beautiful seriousness. Really well done!
Thank you
You forgot one. Cirrus pilots must always land at a field that has a heliport because what they’ll do is just fly over the field and look for the heliport and pull the cute and bring her down gently onto the pad.
@Glen Towler Its not a problem. You just have to time it so a thermal is directly over your landing point.
The “up, up and away” lever. Too funny!
It’s so refreshing to hear from a pilot who’s been there and done that.
Kudos my friend.
Just found your channel so you have a new subscriber. As a Cirrus driver I have learned a lot just from this video. My CSIP told me that there is never any reason to go around in a Cirrus, just pull the chute.
I recommend the denial-heavy "Oops method". I use this along with the top tips Bryan provided, in his "ATC communications" educational video. I am queen of the skies, everyone avoids me, yet I hear nobody complain, ever.
With love from North London, UK. I think.
Please don't ever stop making videos, your content is fantastic
I think I've done the "Oops" method before!!!!
Hilarious! I'll have to try pre-programming the auto pilot before hitting the "up, up, and away" lever on the Piper; unless, of course, it places me too close to a Cirrus at the next airport...
I left general aviation before the first Cirrus was built. Thank you for painting a picture of what I can expect to find if I ever come back. 😂
Accurate. The only thing I could add is squawking 7600 for pleasant radio silence.
You know I've heard of those "S Turns" before but never knew what the term meant. Now I know where to perform them. On the runway
You got it. S-turns are equally good for improving take-off distance available - for aircraft so old or flimsy that they have neither a TOGA switch or an Up-and-Away lever.
👍☑️Up, up and away lever LOL
That second landing diagram made me LOL, thanks!!
If I ever learn to fly, I want to fly a Serious just like you! 🙃
Too funny, I actually googled blind beekeeping and it exists, bet they get stung less than me
Imagine how annoying the “Buzzing of the Bee” would be if you were blind.
@@mikeryan6277 from my quick Googling that’s exactly how they beekeep, by listening. I haven’t been stung in two years but that said I haven’t opened a hive in two years either. The drive by stingings stopped too. Met a retired beekeeper, he gave it up to take up flying. Perhaps that’s my future.
@@eveningecho5334 Alfred Hitchcock could have had a field day with the “Blind Bee Keeper”
Could have been his sequel to “The Birds”
@@eveningecho5334 forgot to mention, loved the term “Drive by Stinging”
@@mikeryan6277 I wasn’t joking there lol, I let that particular hive die. Husband of my wife ‘s friend keeps birds, I told him not to keep bees, the marriage would t survive if he gets mixed up in the birds and the bees
Brian, I hope that you got your bags prepared for your next trip to the FSDO😉
I’ve learned a lot today. My passengers will appreciate your outstanding knowledge on the “other” traffic pattern base turns.
The "other" pattern clearly provides a superior 360 degrees look-out for other traffic. Keep doing those extra safe "other" style base turns, the greater path distance means they can be initiated from a greater altitude, which is also safer in case of engine trouble (I guess this is why BrYan advocates full speed landings too). Now that you mention it, this sort of nuggets will probably fit nicely in the passenger pre-flight safety briefings - the passengers will certainly be more at ease knowing these things!
Classic. Don’t forget the “shooting ILS approach to missed approach point towards opposite traffic” during high activity hours with a full pattern of students.
I was on the fence but now I'm definitely buying a cirrus!
Clever! Laughing at yourself is the best way to keep learning and putting minor errors behind you. Some truth here though, to a Cirrus pilot, a "short" approach is what they perform in the morning, "Hmm, cargo pockets today or sexy & smooth?"
Most cirrus pilots are blind and oblivious to traffic patterns , " Cirrus 12345, 40 miles to the southwest, lined up for a straight in approach , 30 miles, 20 miles, 10 mile final , any traffic any the area please be advised we have a cirrus pilot in the area please vacate the area immediately"....ha!! j/k
I've been teaching it wrong all along. Thanks! I'll update my syllabus asap and tell all my students to only use caps until they get updated on the new process.
As a Member of the Board of Sightless Apiculturists Minors (SAMs), I am highly offended by the comment at the beginning of this video. You have never once been at one of our meetings. I think your claim to be an instructor for us is fake news.
I've been there, you probably just didn't see me.
Gee I’m learning a lot!
This video made it to COPA forums
Hahaha! Hike they are taking it well.
Good to see you. Hope you and your family are well
Thanks man, I always mess up square patterns, rectangular patterns and circular patterns…If you have a sec could also you explain the kidney shaped pattern? You da best…
I am working on some alternate pattern entries. Screw that 45 degree entry. 38 degrees is the optimal entry angle :)
Best flight instructor in the world.
Thank you for another excellent video that made me laugh. Keep it up Bryan !!
I'm new to flying and this video has been very helpful on my learning journey. Thank you.
Always cal in a 25 mile final approach
I learned a lot from this video BrYan. Having never flown a Cirrus for the obvious reasons of expense, demand, and possessing excellent airmanship, I find myself a bit jealous of the numerous options for pattern entry. I guess the older I get, the more technological advancements render any real thought processes or skills as meaningless as my hopes and dreams. Perhaps I have been too harsh in my judgement of the Cirrus. Yes. I will buy one. Edit: Yeah bud, just checked the prices. I can get like 4 doctor killers for that kind of bank. With glass cockpits. Probably a lap dance, too. F*$# Cirrus, man. Great video, tho
This is so good Bryan. Thanks for all the laughs! Looking forward to more
Thank you :)
I’ve missed these videos Brian. Too much serious lately.
As Capt. Bill Shakespeare said whilst flying his King Learjet "Jesters do oft prove prophets ..." - you gotta tone it down a bit though - I nearly gave myself asthma I was laughing so hard ...
Love it, Bryan!
Is it proper procedure to pull the shoot on roll out to help you stop on the runway?
That manover automaticly makes you a high performance jet test pilot.
It’s mandatory!
...though I like to pull my chute when nobody is looking.
@@glennllewellyn7369 🤣🤣🤣
#4 combined with #3 and a sprinkle of #2 methods are how most folks get into KBDN, Cirrus and Citation alike. However, you didn’t cover the most consistent method used here: listen to CTAF and do exactly the opposite of what everyone else is doing at a block altitude typically reserved for wildlife activity without making any calls whatsoever.
🔥❤️😎Another great video, thank you. Did you sell the Grumman and buy your dads Cirrus or a different one?
Cirrusouly 🤣🛫 I enjoy your satire! Especially the explanation of your students. I bet the AFW FSDO is shaking their heads and they are making rattle can like noises! Keep up the good work!😁🛫
"Airport Traffic, Cirrus is on a 50 mile final. Any other traffic in the pattern, please vacate the area immediately"
That was great.
So wait - at what point do I use the blinkers on the wingtips? Before the turn, or do we use the BMW time?
Unfortunately the SR22 suffers from "don't-get-there-itis."
Make sure you overshoot the final especially if there is a parallel runway
The only thing wrong with this video is that magneto failures have been the way Cirrus has kept me out of the pattern, not the alternator. 😂
you did forgot to include
"20 mile final, straight in, any traffic please advice"
Beekeeping to blind kids at the skating rink. Okay, that's one of the best 'instructor' ones you've come up with yet.
Okay, these were funny, but I'm looking forward to the Debonaire Traffic Patterns, or anything involving a Beech Bonanza!
I guess the question becomes "Now that you're getting the Debonaire, are you going to stop mooching off of your Dad and not fly is Cirrus anymore?" :D :)
HAHAH!!! I am upgradinng but so is he. I expect next year I will be flying some Bonanza variant and when able I will be "borrowing" his G3. Dad is flying a ton these days working on his IR. after his checkride, he is going to upgrade. But sticking with Cirrus. I can't wait to see what the future holds. He's my favorite person to fly with.
@@JustPlaneSilly well, I really hope you end up with that 1960 Deb, that's a really nice airplane, except for the paint job.
As to your Dad, it's great that you enjoy flying with him. I also wish him the best in getting his instrument rating.
Next, both of you are going to need to get your Commercial license and then the CFI, CFII, CFIM, CFIIM and whatever else. You need to pick up a Diamond DA-42! If I was still flying, or even able to fly, and I had the money, the DA-42 is the airplane I want to own.
Can I share that the owner of my flight club is a beekeeper and often brings hives to the hangar? And my CFI is allergic?
One of these days, I might learn a very different, interesting, and harrowing style of flying.
Bahaha…that was hilarious…great stuff!
“Land on the taxiway, don’t do that”! Has anyone told Han Solo?
Hysterical!
This. All of this.👏
You missed very important points, one, be sure to point the tail at the nearest open hangar. Set the brakes, start the engine and bring the power to at least 2000rpm. Stay there with the brakes set for 20 minutes. Also consider the overhead approach, where you get over the top then pull chute.
I'm concerned about this "un controllable" airport thingy....
controllable airports are a pain because they're always moving around and you never know how much fuel it will take to get to one
Watch out for clouds, they might get stuck to your wings
I think I'm using the oops method in the C172 and feel kinda foolish now. Like pretending I have a side stick and flying really fast. Are you planning a giveaway of your new baseball cap???? I like it!
HA😂😂. The truth to that is I have seen some Cirrus pilots probably fly that way. LOL.
Those Parachute pop overlays got me. Real time. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2:25 that's what the Grumman is for 😉
Cirrus champions the precautionary alternator failure...an industry first!
We have a local crop duster that uses your "direct to" approach method. This is so dumb, that he actually makes money flying his plane.
This is funny, but I've SEEN THIS STUFF!!! So it's funny because it's true.
Ha ha, love it 😀
I love you
That was Funny AF! haha killing it
I have never laughed louder
Straight out departure to a straight in 24 mile approach is the only was to do it! Why do they even put ailerons and a rudder on the airframe anyway? Just need the go fly lever and AP button!
I'm gonna hit the brakes, he'll fly right by. As a Cirrus pilot you can quote Top Gun lines and everything will work out.
So, Cirrious question for you: how often would you recommend being inside the airplane while flying these types of patterns?
Top Man
You forgot the vertical approach - overhead and pull chute
I usually just keep flying until I find an airport where I can land straight in.
Epic
I don't believe it. You pull the chute every time, I'm sure of it!
Can you land the Cirrus on the ice during a beekeeping lesson?
Yeah but you might hit a kid. They are like super blind at that particular skating rink
As busy as you are, where do you find time to make videos??????
He doesn't
Truth is, I don't require a great deal of sleep. I tend to edit videos after the family has gone to sleep.
Also I am an IT guy meaning I spend most of my day at a computer. I always have notepad up and I constantly jot down notes when something pops into my head.
I am going back to 1 video every other week because it is too taxing at the rate I have been putting them out.
LOL
I'm not a pilot, just love planes. Is a Cirrus the flying version of a BMW?
Overshoot final and hit a metroliner
What if I’m the 2nd Cirrus coming in 🤠
Don't let your Dad see this or he will stop you flying the Cirrus and you will have to keep your plane.
Airports can, like, go outta control, (I mean, Kabul, sure,) but, I'm, like, here, in the US of $$$...?
If anyone can afford a cirrus, why not just buy the airport too?
Cirrus "dominating" Pipers? YGBSM. My Cherokee 6 could beat the sh** outta your Cirrus! lol
My Mooney will bench press both of ya. 9G wing, baby!
You bought your dad's plane???
real pilots dont need engines
clown!
That’s why cirrus pilots are lousy pilots. How’s that insurance premium working for you.
Mine went down this year actually. Was a little surprised.
Not funny. No joking matter.
It seems about 23,000 people disagree with you.
I never was one to ask approval of the masses.
@@BlackwaterBud for sure but you are smack dab in the middle of a comedy channel stating "not a joking matter" Everything here is a joking matter. This is where we come to unwad our panties.