I just want to make a point that just because it works well for Spencer, It is not necessary that this kind of progression will work well for everyone. Some of the issues can be addressed by making contact further in front on the high balls (which would result in the straightened arm in question causing the strings to correctly face the target), and on wide balls it would require the body to be further behind the ball than with a more ATP style forehand. More than one way to skin the cat, but I'm really happy and excited about Spencer's progress =). Nice work.
Yes, to continue this point, I didn't go on court with my idea of the ATP forehand being the correct way to hit the ball. We experimented with a few adjustments and naturally evolved to more of an ATP style stroke. I wouldn't even call it an ATP stroke, it was just less around his back. I just made the title of the video WTA to ATP because RUclips makes me sell-out like that haha.
Perfect example of working "with you, not on you" - didn't just start altering my forehand but saw what was working and what wasn't working and made small adjustments. It helped with high balls, wide balls, and returns. The forehand was decent before but this made it a much more versatile stroke. Some of the forehands we got to by the end were the best ones I've ever hit. Thank you!! And thanks to Nitzan!!
That just helps with getting sideways and shoulder turn. I guess more consistent take backs helps generate timing , but there are lots of pros that dont push the raquet back.
The first forehand has its strengths. It can be an consistent source of power without shanking as much. It can get the body involved more and put less stress on the arm. Also, the elaborate take-back only happened when he had time. His swing is significantly shorter when the ball comes medium height with some speed. I like both forehands, but for different reasons.
@@tennisproslav1237 The ATP forehand has less arm stress, because the onus of the stroke is on the trunk rotation, not the arm. The ATP forehand is more compact, and thus more consistent when dealing with heavy shots. The ATP forehand can itself generate much more weight because of the dynamic flip that's inherent in the shot. The WTA forehand is an inferior shot, that's why no one on the ATP uses it.
@@kingtrawal I mean. You actually got every single thing wrong. Kinda crazy odds there. Men's forehand is full body, but the arm takes a much bigger toll. Arm strength is required to execute effectively - especially shoulder strength. The "ATP" or men's forehand is compact but much more complex, and therefore harder to time. The woman's or WTA forehand is not inherently worse. It's better suited for some individuals than a flicky, strength requiring forehand that requires perfect timing. If you think everyone will benefit by adopting this technique, you are kidding yourself, and doing disservice to tennis players.
@@kingtrawal 100% correct. Anyone who's stupid enough to believe the WTA fh is effective should just watch a vid of the diminutive Justine Henin ripping fh's ATP style. Case closed.
I just want to make a point that just because it works well for Spencer, It is not necessary that this kind of progression will work well for everyone. Some of the issues can be addressed by making contact further in front on the high balls (which would result in the straightened arm in question causing the strings to correctly face the target), and on wide balls it would require the body to be further behind the ball than with a more ATP style forehand. More than one way to skin the cat, but I'm really happy and excited about Spencer's progress =). Nice work.
Yes, to continue this point, I didn't go on court with my idea of the ATP forehand being the correct way to hit the ball. We experimented with a few adjustments and naturally evolved to more of an ATP style stroke. I wouldn't even call it an ATP stroke, it was just less around his back. I just made the title of the video WTA to ATP because RUclips makes me sell-out like that haha.
Perfect example of working "with you, not on you" - didn't just start altering my forehand but saw what was working and what wasn't working and made small adjustments.
It helped with high balls, wide balls, and returns. The forehand was decent before but this made it a much more versatile stroke.
Some of the forehands we got to by the end were the best ones I've ever hit. Thank you!! And thanks to Nitzan!!
Fantastic job.
This channel should have like 1+ million subscribers.
Very good stuff. Did you consider bringing in the snappy wrist gadget? I wonder if it could be an aid here.
As Spencer's brother and frequent opponent, I hate to see this sort of rapid improvement.
Hahaha come next time!
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From WTA to Tiafoe
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what a difference ...
His off hand should be assisting with the take back. Thats why his timing sucks.
My off hand doesn’t assist with the take back. It doesn’t affect my timing
That just helps with getting sideways and shoulder turn. I guess more consistent take backs helps generate timing , but there are lots of pros that dont push the raquet back.
That WTA forehand is just hideous LOL so many people need to be sent this video…
The first forehand has its strengths. It can be an consistent source of power without shanking as much. It can get the body involved more and put less stress on the arm. Also, the elaborate take-back only happened when he had time. His swing is significantly shorter when the ball comes medium height with some speed. I like both forehands, but for different reasons.
@@tennisproslav1237 The ATP forehand has less arm stress, because the onus of the stroke is on the trunk rotation, not the arm. The ATP forehand is more compact, and thus more consistent when dealing with heavy shots. The ATP forehand can itself generate much more weight because of the dynamic flip that's inherent in the shot. The WTA forehand is an inferior shot, that's why no one on the ATP uses it.
@@kingtrawal I mean. You actually got every single thing wrong. Kinda crazy odds there.
Men's forehand is full body, but the arm takes a much bigger toll. Arm strength is required to execute effectively - especially shoulder strength. The "ATP" or men's forehand is compact but much more complex, and therefore harder to time.
The woman's or WTA forehand is not inherently worse. It's better suited for some individuals than a flicky, strength requiring forehand that requires perfect timing. If you think everyone will benefit by adopting this technique, you are kidding yourself, and doing disservice to tennis players.
@@kingtrawal 100% correct. Anyone who's stupid enough to believe the WTA fh is effective should just watch a vid of the diminutive Justine Henin ripping fh's ATP style. Case closed.