Developing a Forehand Weapon - Featuring a Division 1 player
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Tom Allsopp and Slavy Elenkov work with Nitzan to develop his forehand into a weapon.
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Top-notch training !
Clear guidelines and very easy to understand.
If u watch Federer u can clearly see that is the non dominant arm that opens up , and then hips and shoulders comes forward by themselves without effort.
Depend on the situations; if he is running to the side, it’s hard to imagine he could fully load the right leg. He draws back his left arm to creat enough rotational force . When he relaxes, he definitely transfers his weight from right leg to the left side.
Not like he’s special or anything (sarcasm) not exactly a mortal
You’re like sunshine on a rainy day. dah
Big time
This is pretty poor instruction. I like this channel but..
Great progress Nitz. I hdn’t see the the follow up footage. Lets see if you can do it in a match next 💪
Thanks Slav. Very helpful
@@nitzanricklis6488 Great stuff Nitzan! That is so smooth. Slav, thanks for your backhand tips - it's improving!
@@mayabergom should send me a clip sometime so i can see what you look like after some work
@@tennisproslav1237 Will do!
wow this is really high level stuff. Nice to see even a Div 1 level player working hard to reconstruct such a vital part of his game
I can't wait to try this!
High balls are hardest for me. So this will be great. Much appreciated.
@6:31 “Throw the hip in there” as per coach’s instruction.
However, the hips must “fire” or “activate” prior to contact. If hips are thrown or pulled at point of contact, you would struggle to control your racquet head and won’t able to aim properly as this student has demonstrated it on some strokes….
All our advice was about hips prior to contact.
It’s normal to have wild results when trying something new. It’s unreasonable to expect perfection.
@@TomAllsopp Tom you’re cool af!
good point @Akif :
ruclips.net/video/JBHyH1aOGVc/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/pHJWeOq0kT8/видео.html
Seems to me, if you push into the court (ie transferring more body weight into the shot) you can help but open your hip.
This isn’t the case for Nitzan. It ends up looking like a Brian Brothers chest bump and doesn’t result in any separation.
Real improvement there
absolutely valid point when it comes to jumping. Caution, Slavy makes him overrotate the forehand with the hip, hip must be still when hitting... but I still really looking forward to seeing HQ clips from TPA Tennis, cheers.
Y’all could possibly tell us how to coordinate this movement. Cuz if the hips are activated early or late, you won’t be able to aim and save your life. Hips have to be “timed” well and that requires coordination.
ask the player to stop his shot 12:00 o clock. u will see request horizontal positioning...and not vertical.
@Tom: What happened to "Swinging low to high"? Your student swings high to low which creates a very flat and inconsistent shot. He will not be able to use that in a match situation.
Yes I think his takeback needs to be longer, he's shortcutting it a bit.
Low to high is not really a rule of thumb - perhaps for beginners. Swiping across the ball can create plenty of spin. It will just be more of a sidespin than top, but it will bring the ball in. He won't be losing control.
@@tennisproslav1237 Can you give an example of a top player that doesn't swing low to high on his regular forehand?
we’re not talking about regular forehands now are we? it’s a pretty specific situation - attacking high ball forehands.
but if you insist, would you take novak djokovich as an example?
m.ruclips.net/video/2AaK3aDw3M0/видео.html
@@tennisproslav1237 Sure. As far as I can see Djokovic is swinging low to high on every shot in the video. He has a loop in his take back which naturally creates the Nike swing path. Even on the high balls.
You should ask him to hit the ball on one leg only. This was a game changer for me.
I think he's using too much knee bend (does not help in less jumping) :ruclips.net/video/eftI4B5DHgA/видео.html
Too much instruction often results in poor outcome.
Can’t disagree with that
gr8 lesson Tom. 1st time see someone talk about hitting high balls more infront of you on youtube( I watched all lessons about high balls)
Thank you so much for sharing the wonderful lesson ❤️💪🌈
I get the hip leading as it does in all side on sports including your favorite golf but he seems to be overdoing it a bit? It is almost as if his hips are 45 degrees at contact and looks hard to control.
This is definition of being “stuck” on a golf swing 😊 great video
Tom, great video! Super useful and will work on it during training this week.
The first 3 minutes it looked even the coaches were confused, not only the D1 player (! Who is well coordinated, he could not twist like the coach asked because it was very unnatural), the coach asked him to rotate starting from the hip and then to over-rotate (!), it will be impossible and lead to imbalance to do in the fast pace situation, look at any ATP player, hips follow the shot, they all coil with the out leg and then push from that leg forward, naturally hip open somehow but they mainly move forward and this way they don't overotate like the first coach is asking here
None of that is correct
Search ‘Chinook Pose’ on RUclips, this helps players understand whole body rotation for stroke.
I like this detailing. Great analysis 👍
I do know who is the other trainer, but he should listen more to your critique, the player is opening too much to the left because he is pulling the non dominant arm way too early and much to the side, he should tuck his arm across the chest but not like that.
we're not focused on the arm in this lesson. we're trying to get him to rotate his right side into his shot. that way he can attack high balls - something he is unable to do at all otherwise.
Hi. Where are you located?
I’ll be living in Huntsville Alabama in 3 weeks.
Grip?
Wilson
@@TomAllsopp level 3 or 4?
@@vungocthanh62 I don’t know how his hand is positioned on the racket. It’s semi western
@@TomAllsopp semi western. Tks!
American system. you guys focusing on not important things. there is no weight moving forward. also players slapping the ball with no spin. racquet should come much more under the ball. ball needs to be hit 🎯 six o clock,under. focus on spinning the ball not slapping it. contact point should be in front. I always should hit more rainbow 🌈 shape not hitting slapping it through the ball. if u ask him to hit 20 balls hard 90-100% power he will miss most of them. learn from Spaniards. what u show here,all looks weird unnatural...
He's opened up so much he's putting inside out spin on cc balls. Tomic and 3.0 players do this. I think this will cause regression.
Regression from what? Not being able to attack a high ball?
To address your other concerns. Tomic rolls the ball from the throat of the racquet to the tip. What I’m suggesting and Nitzan is doing is swiping from side to side. If the ball were at waist level, it would be a clean topspin, but it’s NOT. This is a way to handle and attack high forehand floating balls ONLY.
@@tennisproslav1237 I wasn't aware this was drill was exclusive to high balls.
Not only exclusive to high balls, but also exclusive to attacking high balls. 👍
@@tennisproslav1237 okay, that makes more sense but I have to ask, this guys a trained player, wouldn't he have learned that skill in the 12s?
You would think 😂😂😂
He is not only a trained player, but he plays #1 in a Division 1 college in San Francisco.
This is actually more common than people may think. There are tennis pros making a living playing tennis that still have very glaring technical short-commings.
Some examples: Djokovic’s wacky serve when he first started playing tennis. Or Gonzales’ inability to hit a topspin backhand. Many pro women’s service motions in general. Footwork issues, net play etc.
There are many factors that go into this. The player is not always to blame, and players sometimes do better with very asymmetric styles. It’s a complicated topic.
Extremely helpful, was teaching my student this yesterday and also realizing I have trouble with it too. After so much time off and playing lower caliber now, the two shots I struggle with now are the high balls, floaters included, and the short low ones that barely come back. 😫
Yes I’ve noticed my high forehand is struggling too. Don’t hit them very often day to day
@@TomAllsopp I worked on the forehand this morning using the ideas in the video, much easier to let loose and tons more action on the ball, will keep at it.