The REAL Reason So Many People Are DECONSTRUCTING Their Faith
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Why are so many people DECONSTRUCTING their faith? In this video, Todd Friel answers this question by sharing 5 reasons the deconstruction movement has become a tidal wave, and reveals the things they're getting wrong.
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My mom was left severely disabled after a brain aneurysm. For 4 years, we strived to bring her back to full health and mobility. She was always wheelchair bound but by the end she could walk with assistance for a short time, feed herself, and finally talk to us (mostly a very faint whisper) so we got to hear her say she loved us.
My charismatic church had SEVERAL members who "prophesied" that she would regain full health and have a powerful testimony. This was pounded into my brain every day. Then she died.
When you tell a 16 year old kid you're a prophet and you've received a vision his mother will be healed, then she dies anyway, you've created an atheist instantly. I was militantly anti-religion for years until finding actual Christian faith, thank God
That’s sad and awful. I’m sorry you and your family went through that.
Sorry for your loss and the pain you went through all that....many so called charismatic ppl. use to tell those nonsense to very sick or disabled people - that seems to be the biggest sin ever - I guess.
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@@Gregoreo1127 To some a reminder, to some, new information:
Bible banns not judging, Judging must be always righteous, not a false one. Being judgmental is not banned. After all Christians themselves must and are called to give a judgment daily to themselves.
Christian is in daily battle against his or hers sinful flesh.
Christian is busy winning souls to GOD, not letting satan having them.
Christian prepares the most hardest times ahead, TRIBULATION - satan kingdom for 7 years. In which he or she, must be willing to get beheaded for CHRIST and for the Gospels sake. That`s what waits all those Christians who were left behind in rapture.
Christian prays for the blessed hope - rapture , an escape from this nightmare which is coming.
Christians are of a sound mind = 2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
You left Christianity? - souls, you were never in the reality.
One thing you all , who "left" leave out, is , SINFUL NATURE, WHOLE MANKIND SUFFERS FROM.
Those lived in the 1st testament timeline, now , in church age and timeline to come, tribulation, all times mankind suffers from sinful nature.
Before claiming GOD to be evil, 1st learn to understand HIS reasons. Mankind WAS IS AND REMAIN SICK AND EVIL. Many amongst us are:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Why is Christianity seek`d from religions and Christ amongst the dead?
Wow… that is terrible what happened to you. This is part of the reason I absolutely despise the Bethel Church’s teaching and word of faith theology.
Can I share this post (hiding your username ofc) on my social?
I grew up Southern Baptist and later spent many years in the Charismatic church. Almost 3 years ago God called me to ministry. When that happened I started to seek God for the pure holy truth. Alot of what I had been involved in with the charismatic church I started to question. Then I began to pick apart EVERYTHING I'd ever known about the faith. I've been de-constructing but in a much different way. I've been throwing out falsehood and replacing it with sound Biblical truth. So, as I've been de-constructing I've also been re-constructing as well. These days it sickens me when I think of the garage I used to think was 'Christian'
If you were wrong then, how do you know you're not wrong now?
@@mattr.1887 Right and wrong interpretations grow out of one’s methods of interpretation. By studying hermeneutics and applying logical methods consistently, you can gain high confidence that your reinterpretations are more right than the old ones.
For example, if flawed methods of interpretation underlie one topic (such as spiritual gifts), the same methods will eventually lead to other bad interpretations. That’s why we constantly see “exciting” new doctrines and movements among Pentecostals.
The Holy Spirit is working it out. He is working this way in my life. So happy for you.
Sorry Jesus makes stuff pretty simple. All this Doctrine crap is a Huge factor in people walking away.
It's about Faith and Heart. Not all wrapped up in Seminary type of debates.
Take up the Biblical truth that nowhere in the Bible does it teach “Bible Alone.” I’m Catholic, you should be too.
I’m in the middle of deconstruction.
But when I say “deconstruction” I mean to put my beliefs through the wringer. I put the beliefs I have to the test of doubt.
In other words.. I study them out to make sure it is genuine and not just me going through the motions.
And I’ve got to say, my faith has never seemed more solidified.
Agreed. Over the last year I've deconstructed from:
1. believing that I have to speak in gibberish to prove I have The Holy Spirit.
2. believing that God is expecting me to part with 10% of my salary each month in order to remain blessed instead of cursed.
3. believing that my grandfather's involvement in freemasonry is the cause of arthritis in my left knee.
Etc etc etc etc
@@lancemarchetti8673 That's not deconstruction. That is doubting because of cause and effect. Try watching some MindShift
Repentance is key. Daily I need to pray for help to repent. Repenting can be very difficult for me.
I grew up believing in God and knew Jesus from a very young age, but I was taught that all I had to do is pray and God will make things better for me. I gave up on God at the age of 14 because I started to believe that God didn't love me anymore. Now I am 45 and back to learning what I should have learned. Thanks to Todd and others (I also learned a lot from Cross Examined questions and answers). I am now much stronger in my Faith walk with the Lord.
testify sister!
I'm right there with you, Dana. I totally fell away from living for God once I turned about 18. I spent the next 30 years living for myself while always knowing that my life was a sham without God, but I couldn't believe that He would ever welcome me back. When I truly repented, asked for forgiveness, and turned away from the sin that I lived in( because of LOVE for God, not fear of punishment ), my life made sense again. I wasted so much of the life that He gave me. I'm now near 70, and every day of the rest of my life is being lived for Jesus. Praise the Holy name of Jesus that He never gave up on me.
You beliefs in Jesus at that young age didn't mean you knew Him necessarily. We get to know Him through the word not religion I was the same being raised Catholic I love who He was but not how He requires our love repent and believe. Many love the way hear He is just like they love celebrities without knowing them. And many celebrities are stirring people wrong about Jesus on utube. Read the WORD idolatry is big in the church God bless you your in now.
You should have learned about Nietzsche.
@@chrisxdeboy
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Always one in every crowd.
I used to be in a church that did the last thing, 80 souls being “saved” each week, except those people were the same people raising their hand each week to be “saved” again and again, which shows they didn’t really understand what being saved means.
I got saved when I was 3 years old by repeating a prayer asking Jesus into my heart.
Thank God I came under conviction and repented a decade later, or I would still be trusting in a false gospel.
Simply means that they haven't been Born Again. Exact same thing happened to me. Until l was truly Born Again. Then and only then did l truly know l had been saved. Romans 8:16. And Repentance...God brings you to it. Suddenly after being Born Again...l was absolutely crushed over all my sins. God grants us that. Praise God...📖🌷
Just for the record, people identifying themselves as Christian/ religious has been decreasing for over 50 years. So that may be true but it’s also true that “actual” Christians are leaving the faith as well.
That’s the point, Christians just call everyone whom leaves the faith not an actual christian, they make baseless assumptions as to the inner thoughts of another person. When in reality, empirical evidence shows all Christian’s are decreasing, not just recent converts, not just the people “saved”
Every week.
@@timanderson3312 Thank you for saying this Tim. All my "brothers and sisters in Christ" made this glib assumption about me when I divorced my rebellious wife and was excommunicated by 2 different churches. Man looks on the outward appearance. Only God see our hearts - which are desperately wicked. Despite the 30 NT passages demanding we repent, I choose to believe in the 5 solas of the Reformation, because if even 1% of REPENTANCE depends on me, I am lost. I have no "condign merit" to add to Jesus' "prevenient grace."
@@timanderson3312 Yes, I agree with you on your points. Thanks for your input :)
I was born again in 1991...I was lost and was found. I went from darkness to light. I can't imagine being deconstructed.
Same brother. Jesus miraculously transformed me… how could I go back?
Amen!
@@freegracerevival 1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place..,
@@a.39886I see what you're saying...buuut, there's a strong history of alcoholism in my family and my husband's. We chose to have a child though. To love, and raise with great morals. One day she needs to have total free will and make her own rules. The best outcome is she'll thrive and not drink, but in order for there to be LIFE and true love (meaning there IS choice and fee will) we had to have a child.
Hope my real life analysis makes sense? Anyway, just my thoughts.
If God's creative will is free, then: "God is not obliged to create every individual" and if that is true, no one or nothing forces God to create: *God freely chooses to create those he wishes to create, he creates knowing that some will be damned and others will be saved. God therefore has a free decision not to create those who he knows will not accept him, and yet, God wants to create them even knowing that they will end up eternally in hell suffering torment*, because that torment and suffering shows the glory of God, which is better than not create them and them avoiding the suffer with fire that never goes out.
Just like God did not wish to forgive the angels who sinned and did not offer them redemption.
God decides who He creates, who He saves and who He forgives and who He allows to suffer eternally everything emanates from God. God did not forgive the angels who sinned, but cast them into hell and left them in darkness, chained and kept for judgment. 2 Peter 2:4.@@Beepbopboop19
Anyone leaving the faith was necessarily *_no true scotsman_* , er... I mean Christian, in the first place.
yeah, got to condemn people on their way out. it's NEVER the church's fault.
Having grown up in charismatic and non denominational churches at which there is a lot of great teaching but there is more. I had a part time job in high school at a Catholic bookstore and I was so impressed by the focus on doctrine. Maybe not all doctrine that is correct but every so many years the Catholic church puts out a giant book laying out what the church believes and teaches and why. I was shocked bc I had never seen a focus on theology over experience. Then I went to a Baptist university and studied theology and one of the freshmen required courses for all students was Christian doctrine. It was refreshing and solidified my faith so when I have gone thru seasons where I couldn't "feel" God's presence I had a solid foundation of scripture to keep me standing. I am a firm believer in having doctrinal conversations with my children so when doubts come they know that not only is that normal, but they can persevere with scripture and truth
Trent Horn is a good watch, 🙌🏻
"Maybe not all doctrine that is correct" A deep dive in the early Church's Fathers teachings will show you that it is actually the most correct among all Christian doctrines.
That “big book” you’re talking about is the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and was commissioned by Pope John Paul II. It had never existed before. It is an absolutely incredible work that summarizes the Church’s teachings. There’s still plenty to read from Church Council documents, early church father writings, and papal encyclicals.
@@a.k.4486 Early church fathers like martin Luther? 😱
The RCC teaches a false gospel, and it teaches it's own dogmas above Scripture. The RCC is the mother of error.
“Faith” without repentance is a false faith.
Those who teach faith without repentance are false teachers.
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Met a woman once on a beach crying. She told me she was a member of a charismatic church, she became ill with a chronic condition, they prayed over her and she did not get better, and then they accused her of having insufficient faith, that she was unrepentant for some hidden sin.
Nuff said.
That happened when my one year old nephew was diagnosed with cancer. People came to pray over him and basically told my sister that he wouldn’t get better if they doubted. He died at 20 months old. This was 32 years ago and our entire family carries a tremendous amount of scars that we are STILL working through. We were very young and didn’t understand.
@sdh4557 Sorry to hear about you and your family's struggle. How can people of faith be so insensitive.
She was a member of a false manmade religion that has nothing to do with having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. We all need to have a personal one-on-one loving relationship with Jesus Christ with just Jesus, our self, prayer and us reading the Holy Bible for our self, with no manmade religion in the way. And we must all remember that this is our temporary home separated from God for a short period of time because of sin, but all people who believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the Holy Bible and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior by believing that Jesus was God on earth Who was born one of us, to die to pay for our sins for us and resurrected from the dead to defeat eternal death for us, will be forgiven of their sins and have eternal life reconciled with God in heaven.
@@slamee100 Slamee, I had the wonderful and joyful experience of dying and being sent back years ago as my mission was not yet complete. I can say from conviction and experience that God is a loving God and that ALL religions are man-made and that their descriptions of God share very little in common with the actual God, or Source as some call this Being of Light (a very humanly limited description) and that our spirits are a part of this bigger existence. All the rest that Christianity teaches of judgement and wrath is just frail physical state fear of the unknown while we are trapped in bodies, meant to control minds and behaviors through emotions. Break free of this trap and live to love, to share joy and good works.
“No wonder we have created so many deconstructionists.” I appreciate the willingness to take responsibility. As far as I understand the history, Evangelicalism has always carried within it the project of deconstruction. How far is too far? At a minimum, yes, I agree with you here. When the only deconstruction left is deconversion… Repentance, is the right answer but I’d recommend we check our own tradition and heart for responsibility first. There is a lot that needs put back together in the gospel and Christ’s church.
“But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.”
Hebrews 12:8
"And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from doing them good; but I will put My fear in their hearts so that they will not depart from Me." ~ Jeremiah 32:40
Then he destroyed the entire country and spread them all over the world. twice. Yall fail to realize that YOU can break the covenant with God, then he is no longer under obligation to uphold his end. Eternal security is a lie.
@@mastershake4641 please go and read that verse again in the context of the whole chapter, it is a promise of the new everlasting covenant in Christ. You are reading this verse with already preconceived notions and presupposition of rejecting the doctrine of eternal security clearly taught in the Bible.
"27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”" ~ Jesus Christ (John 10). If eternal security is a lie, then Jesus lied. But I choose to stick with Jesus and not with you and other men who teach otherwise. Let God be true and every man a liar.
@@berean256 No you just do what you accuse me of. You read it with eternal security in mind.
It says no one can snatch you out of his hand. It doesnt say you cant reject him. It says his sheep follow him. You arent following him if you reject him.
That passage doesnt refute anything.
@@mastershake4641 I partly agree with you on that assumption of John 10. If anyone rejects Christ, then he is not His sheep and that means that person is not in the hand of Christ and the Father. There is no security for them.
Jesus puts it this way in John 6; " 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
@@berean256 Question for the Calvinist: If it is the will of the Father that Jesus should raise all that have been given to him, how do you account for the sinners who are raised on the last day? Will they be saved too? I ask this because I don't think you really understand the passage you just quoted.
Todd’s mocking of former believer’s struggles with their faith would turn off anyone considering becoming a Christian.
Humility Todd, humility.
where's the mockery?
@@uemi6207 My mother used to say, “it’s not what you say it’s how you say it”. His voice is dripping with sarcasm.😇
@@rodrogers6895it might sound like he's being sarcastic all the time, which may be something he inherited from his past profession of stand up comedian, but the way he conveys the message is simple enough for people to understand, and appreciate, I believe.
I've seen Todd mock. He wasn't doing it here. But I still think there may be something to what you're saying. The combination of his "radio voice" (he speaks with the same cadence in almost every video/podcast) with his confident attitude while concluding that others are wrong kind of give off the vibe of dismissal; as though he isn't taking them or their experiences seriously. But it's kind of subjective. He isn't actually SAYING anything that I would feel comfortable is dismissal, mockery, or joking at their expense from an objective standpoint. So I couldn't really tell you or him if he needs to repent before God or change his approach. The best I could do is ask his motive and intention & suggest that he take the possibility of him rubbing people the wrong way unnecessarily into consideration. The rest is between him and God.
Amen. He’s mocking them with funny voices and straw man arguments for sound bites.
I spent 25 years in charismatic churches, including 4 years at Lakewood Church. I was there when John Osteen died, with no one prepared to take over his ministry. John had two sons, Paul and Joel. Paul Osteen was divorced, and although remarried and following Christ, his brother Joel didn't have the baggage of divorce. So within a few weeks, Joel Osteen officially became the pastor. For the first year or two, he would often cry during his sermons, breaking down in what were awkward moments for me and I imagine many others in the congregation. The impression I got was that he was overwhelmed with the responsibility of taking over his father's ministry. Joel had no formal seminary training, and no solid doctrinal foundation to prepare him to pastor a megachurch. I got the sense he was just winging it, trying to teach the Bible as best he could, but woefully unprepared and ill equipped. It was like he just fell into the only teaching he knew - the prosperity gospel, and he just repeated it over and over every Sunday. I could summarize every one of his sermons for the next three years as, "God loves you, and wants to bless you. Just keep believing it and confessing it, and God will eventually bless you." That was it. I'm so thankful God opened my eyes, brought me ought of charismatic churches, and delivered me from the false teaching of the prosperity gospel. Folks, it's all about the gospel, getting the gospel straight! Thank you for Wretched, teaching sound doctrine with a bit of humor, and for boldly correcting false teaching. Keep up the great work!
I just had a witnessing opportunity with another parent at the park. He initiated the discussion about faith and I remember him saying “God loves us, shod loves everybody” and yet he believed that Jesus wasn’t the true religion, he said the Bible says “we’re all technically gods because we’re made in the image of God”. I corrected him on all his points but it wasn’t really getting through to him. It really made me sad and grieved for this man and his family. Please pray for him. His name was Robert.
You talked to a Mormon!
@@GobiLux Could have been a Progressive.
Did you tell him that when scripture States we are created in God's image, it's talking about our emotions?
He sounds like he follows the little gods doctrine found in many of the New Apostolic Reformation churches.
🙏🏻🥺
As a mental health counselor, I talk to many people, and God comes up frequently. I have noticed that most people I talk to are turning away from God because he is not inclusive enough for their social and political beliefs. They want God to conform to them, not them conforming to his will.
One of the reasons I left Christianity was the harsh treatment towards LGBT, women, and minorities. I will not worship a god that encourages the mistreatment of others.
Humans don't need gods to be good people.
What do we even begin to do with that? Like that clip of the woman at the end who is rattling off that the Bible is sexist, bigoted, and homophobic. It's kind of hard to advance to conversation beyond that point.
It's sad to me of how both political sides in America deny the truth of God's word, and it's done for earthly power.
Excellent !
Epistemology
This is such a dangerous perspective, so untrue and completely disregards the experiences of those who deconstruct.
Yep, I seriously thought this vid was satire. Anyone looking for deconstruction info coming across THIS video, is instantly reminded why we are deconstructing. 😂
@@MetalxMonica you went out from us because you were not of us. Repent
@@jjshuffe so loving 💕
@@MetalxMonica you may deconstruct as much as you want. Remember : Philippians 2:10-11 " that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
@@jjshuffeThe concept of "intelligent design" has come from out of nothing more than a complete misunderstanding and total lack of knowledge of physics. Period. However, people need hope from an uncomfortable and uncertain reality. If this world were the creation of a supreme being who seeks a loving relationship with us we would expect him to ensure that everyone believes in him or at least everyone who is capable of reciprocating this love relationship one would expect him to provide evidence that is sufficient to convince everyone, but in fact there is no convincing evidence at all.
When asked to explain how they know God is real the explanations of what they're describing sound just like life itself, the natural order of nature, which is just the natural laws of physics, and not devine acts of a deity. The different mental perceptions of all people neurologically plays a most important part of how we define what we see and how we see it in the absence of a knowledgeable understanding.
So, is this god playing hide and seek with us because he likes to test us instead of being honest and revealing himself to us, to which, nothing ever can just magically pop up out of thin air. And then, when we cannot be convinced otherwise he rejects us to eternal torture and burning. This is a sick Jewish deity. Yahweh is "Santa Claus" for adults it would certainly seem.
"You're all going to hell. By the way, buy my book." LOL
I pray the Lord raises up many men of God who will preach truth from the pulpit!
Sadly, most churches wouldn’t hire them
They looked for answers that they wanted let’s be honest if they were Purley objective and done honest research they would be Christian .
“For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.”
II Corinthians 7:10
My children just learned this verse in Sunday school this week ❤️
A perfects example of godly sorrow it’s Peter and Judas sorrow of the world produces death
I'm not sure any comment I could share would be genuinely helpful to another human. After reading ~10-15 of other's comments, I do see a pattern: Certitude. And not certitude about the same answer. Rather, certitude about their own answer. What I'll take away from this video and the comments is a willful determination to seek more humility and remind myself that my best thinking is a work-in-progress.
So many lack reverence for our Lord. I just want to thank you for teaching the true word of God. God bless from 🇨🇦
Todd & tEam - this is one of the greatest messages you’ve brought out in a while. This a root problem in the ‘evangelical community’. You and tEam distilled some challenging theology into an understandable and compelling message. Well done!
People who are struggling in their faith need love and understanding, not arrogant videos that dismiss their doubts and struggles. When Christians struggle with doubts they are so often dismissed with a few trite platitudes thrown at them. We are held by the grace of God alone everyday and we would do good to remember the old saying "But for the grace of God go I...."
“ Repentance isn’t a work, it’s a gift.
Stopping a sin is not a work, it’s just not doing something “ I like this! Never thought about it this way! Thanks
Except there are sins of omission where not doing something is a sin (feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, taking care of the widow, etc). So repentance and turning to God for those sins are in fact a work.
@@Bowhuntertexas I agree, but I believe he was referring to works of human nature. I believe there’s two kind of works, human works trying to save them selfs and the other works caused by being saved and following Christ more like fruits from salvation. Not sure if I explained my self very good.
It goes to the motivation behind our works. Do we do it because we want to please God, or we do it because we want something in return? The basis for our works must be our love for God. We love Jesus, hence we demonstrate that love by our works.
@@sleepy_dobe I agree, thank you for sharing
The dead cannot stop from sinning. That is the entire point of the Gospel. Otherwise, the Jew would be justified by works of the law. Just stop ______.
Stopping from sinning is a WORK that men can boast in. That is antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Romans 3:23 -24 For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. Being justified as a GIFT BY HIS GRACE through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus. Romans 3:28 - for we maintain that a person is JUSTIFIED by FAITH apart from works of the Law, i.e. stop sinning.
1 John 2:19
No such a thing as a 'former Christian'
EXACTLY
or a Homosexual Christian
I suspect that most, if not all, of the deniers in this video never genuinely repented and believed, but I do not know that for sure (God knows). That said, in 1 John 2:19, the "us" refers to the circle of apostles, not the readers (or the church). John was warning the readers that there are "teachers" out and about who claim to have the apostolic credentials but deny what the apostles teach, therefore such were never among the apostles to begin with.
@Brucev7 *unrepentant, practicing homosexual. A repentant homosexual that practices celibacy can be Christian.
Hebrews 6:4-6 ESV / 790 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
Eternal security is not biblical.
Thanks, Todd and team, for your service and faithful ministry.
My brother is deconstructing. One if the things he is having trouble tolerating us the idea that God would send people to hell that maybe didn’t hear about Jesus. This is a man who was a pastor for many years. He is struggling with any non-negotiables.
I don't believe that God will send someone to hell who hasn't heard the gospel message. It says in the Bible that he judges them by their conscience. I think it's in Romans.
I did listen to a couple of former satanists, exorcists and people sharing their near death experiences. That’s convincing enough for me to repent and (re)turn to Jesus.❤🤷🏻♂️
Thank you. The child and teenager I used to be thanks you profusely! The saved old person now thanks God for true salvation through His Word!
AMEN !
Be very careful. Wretched subscribes to the cult of Calvinism.
Praise God!!!!
@@jedimasterham2 I have yet to locate this "cult" you speak of. Calvin believed the Bible. Completely. So every Christian who believes what the Bible says gets called a "Calvinist" as though that were some religion of it's own, or cult, as you called it.
@@thecrew777 The problem isn’t with Calvin himself. The guy was ill prepared to write an in-depth treatise in his mid-20’s, especially when his training was as a lawyer and a Catholic priest, and having virtually no extensive comprehension of scripture.
That being said, modern day Calvinism is a cult, and much of it is being perpetrated by groups like 9Marks and The Gospel Coalition, and promoted pastors like MacArthur, Lawson, Peters, Washer, etc. Collectively, they engage in juvenile legalism by distorting scripture to deny Jesus’ atonement for all, which denies Jesus Christ. At the same time, they preach a false Christ that only died for a select group of people that God picked prior to creation. As such, they also believe in salvation outside of Christ, and many believe that God makes people sin.
There’s no other cult I’ve seen that distorts John 3:16 so much as Calvinism does. It’s so easy that child understands it, but they try to deconstruct it to claim it only refers to their select group.
That Voddie Baucham clip is gold!
I agree! I've heard some great stuff from Voddie Baucham, but he really knocked it out of the park with that comment!
Yeah the second Todd said the word "sissified" I knew exactly what the clip would be.
Whoa, that was Voddie? How old is that clip?
@OxbowisaMstie I can't tell you exactly how old the clip is, but it's from a sermon called "Brokenness" which was uploaded to RUclips about 10 years ago. I'm pretty sure it's older than that though
Spoke to a woman who said she was once a christian but not now, and so I asked her how it was possible to have seen the glory of God and the ultimate reality and truth and just walk away. She then admitted that is not what she had ever seen or been.
I look at it this way: I've never seen someone say 'oh I was a homeless drug addict but once I discovered there is no God my life changed for the better'.
Thats what happened to me when i was little. I was told I was going to Hell so I said a prayer without at all understanding the nature of Christ or the promise he made. Im just very thankful that it seems God has called upon me still; trying to do better for him but it is hard when you are trying to leave the world and you are addicted to things.
He never removes the call
Ever thought about being a better person for yourself?
@@MissMuttonmeat You ever thought about letting other people believe what they want?
@@MissMuttonmeat You don't get it. I couldn't; i didnt even want to be alive.
@@subjecttochrist ❤
Thank you sir for uploading these videos, may God Bless you.
I use to watch Rhett and Link all the time. Once they said they lost their faith I was so ashamed. It hurt because I felt like I lost friends or fellow brothers in Christ. It really upset me, since it will surely promote more of a failure of keeping the faith. It just upsets me because they said they initially stated questioning their faith because they felt like they had to when going to RUclips HQ.
They sold out to the world if what you say is true
I feel ya bro, I felt ashamed too
They aren't good people in real life. My sister married and divorced one of Rhetts relatives. He's a scumbag, and Link has Herpes.
Why did you feel ashamed? You aren't the one who walked away from your faith.
I stopped watching too. The weird thing is, I never watched them because they were Christian-- but I couldn't watch after they left the Faith. I'm not sure if it was the act, or the way they explained their reasoning that just put me off completely from them.
He who perseveres to the end will be saved, said Jesus. This is the problem of "eternal security" or "once saved always saved" compared to "perseverance of the saints". God preserves but we must persevere.
Our salvation is not of ourselves, it is the gift of God.
What about nothing present nor THINGS to come can separate us from the love that is in Christ Jesus do you not understand?
What about God predestining those who were justified and glorified do you not get?
What is it about the Holy Spirit being a seal and a guarantee of inheritance into the Kingdom of Heaven?
Are you ignorant of those verses.
Don't make salvation partly of man because man is only involved in so much as God has allowed us to believe and confess Jesus is Lord.
@@willp.8120 Actually, I was quoting Depending on translation) Jesus from Matthew 10:22; Matthew 24: 13 and Mark 13:13 that we must endure or persevere until the end. My response was geared towards the video's discussion of faulty or shallow gospels that we tell others and give them false assurance. The video was about "deconstruction" of their faith which upon closer examination shows that their profession was not Spirit wrought. Anyway, I am thoroughly aware of the verses you listed and agree with them wholeheartedly. But perhaps I wasn't clear in my last statement. I should have said that we persevere because God preserves us. Salvation is His work beginning to end. Sorry if I caused confusion.
@@michaelfendrich1864 Thanks for clarifying.
The good mythical morning guys are so milquetoast they can't have any believes that their audience might disagree with. Along with having a fundamental misunderstanding of the faith.
"God chooses not milksops destitute of backbone to wear His glory upon their faces. We have plenty of men made of sugar nowadays, that melt into the stream of popular opinion but these shall never ascend into the hill of the Lord, nor stand in His holy place, nor wear the tokens of His glory."
- Charles H. Spurgeon
In other words, they caved into the PC culture. I stopped watching them sometime in the latter half of the 2010s since noticing their implementation of cussing and topics that are rotten fruit. Stevie (last time I checked) is a lesbian, and made a point to tell Twitter years ago, not even sure if she’s still working for them. That’s not to say I’m “homophobic,” but stating that they’ve left Christianity gradually and wholly. I remember reading an article where they spoke at a church, and this was sometime in the early 2010s when they were slowly growing.
I think it's so sad to see Rhett n link say these things..I've watched them from the beginning and I think if they didn't get so big (famous) they wouldn't be sp willing to give up their faith.
I agree with the second part
I knew Rhett and Link from our college ministry days. After listening to their full deconstruction story, it’s clear the foundation of their faith was in things they felt empirically proved the Bible. Young earth Creationism, etc. As soon as they felt they couldn’t prove the Bible was right, everything fell apart for them.
Jesus said in Matthew 24 that one of the signs of His coming and the end of the age would be that many will turn, and betray one another, and hate one another.
I refuse to hate the people popular evangelicalism tells us to hate ( Trans people, Gay people, Social-Liberals , Leftists , protestors, people who are stuck on government aid ). I also refuse to hate the far right wing extremists who tell me to hate those people, though I will protect my family when the far-right put my family in danger. I do not worship man, but God.
Yeah that stuff has only been going on since…the beginning of time. 😂 I’m so much happier and better a person after leaving the Christian myth.
I'm glad to see these Wretched videos now allow comments and discussion. I've often wanted to see what others think about such content.
Well done - repentance is a MUST
None of them were Christians to begin with, they were false converts. Thank you for addressing this issue
For people of my parents generation who were Canadians the apostasy of Charles Templeton rocked them. For a while he was up there with his friend, Billy Graham, and fellow Youth for Christ worker. I never known of anyone who could figure out Templeton.
@@roberteaston6413 because eternal security isnt true and "they were false converts" is a lie. He fell away.
If that's true, then no person can know that they are actually saved.
They aren't true Scotsman either.
I used to believe this. I was a Christian for 30+ years and lost my faith 2 weeks before Christmas 2022. I don't know how to reconcile faith with everything I learned reading and studying the Bible and the Ancient Near East. The OT god is a moral monster who only loves Judah/Israel and the NT god (Jesus) is about a god who loves the whole world. If you even tried to honestly answer the differences between the nature and characters of both Yahweh and Jesus, you would start to doubt Christianity.
The other issue is the problem of evil. God supposedly hates sin and yet he created a world full of it. God is also all-knowing and yet still created knowing it would be full of sin. God is also supposedly all-powerful and desires good, yet does nothing to stop suffering and evil in the world. God doesn't wish any to perish but for all to come to repentance and yet he created a world where wide is the road that leads to destruction. Few find the path that leads to eternal life. God is all-loving and yet, even you wouldn't condemn creatures to hell to suffer for _eternity._ I'm willing to bet you have _more_ love and compassion for the unbelieving world than your god does.
This is the deepest message I've heard in possibly years, I need to study this over and over...
As always, thanks Todd.
It’s so sad. I still watch Rhett & Link but it’s always in the back of my head when I watch them.
It is sooo very sad 💔
Thanks Brother Todd....... I am surprised to hear a pastor say that REPENTANCE is not a condition for Salvation. 😫😟
Amen Pastor Todd! Thank you so much for your videos! I miss our brother RC!
I don’t think the real issue was addressed in this video. While some preach health and wealth/ prosperity Gospel, and others make doctrinal errors concerning the work of God in salvation, I do not believe that these are the prominent reasons for the deconstruction movement. Modern mainstream Christianity is full of problems and we can’t be afraid to discuss them. The church has become extremely pharisaical. Each denomination has its own standard and idea of what Christianity should look like. When someone fails to live up to that standard, they are condemned. The trouble is that no one can really live up to the standard. We are all in need of God’s grace daily. But it seems like most Christians have forgotten all about this. (Notice also that none of this was mentioned in the video.) Many people will strive to uphold the image they have in their mind of what a Christian is, but behind closed doors the truth comes out. Children who have been raised in “Christian” homes and are now grown have begun questioning what they were taught because of the hypocrisy that is so rampant. The internet has given a voice to this generation and they have been able to strengthen each other and sort out the trauma that they experienced throughout their lives, at the hands of overly strict parents who forgot all about God’s mercy and grace. These parents operate in fear of what might happen to their kids if not punished severely for wrong doing, when having faith in God and compassion towards others would have been a more appropriate choice. What’s sad is that because of the hypocrisy and pharisaical attitudes so prevalent in modern mainstream Christianity, many folks are throwing the baby out with the bath water. Because of church members and what is being taught as Christianity in the pulpits, they are abandoning the God of the Bible entirely. I believe it’s time for revival and to stop worrying about everyone else, and focus on ourselves. If everybody would examine themselves daily, to see whether we are actually in the faith, we could put the brakes on the deconstruction movement. But we must be able to be honest with ourselves.
It's pretty simple actually. People have realized they don't have to believe nonsense just because the people around them do.
Never underestimate the impact of fame and money. In the case of Rhett and Link being ultra famous internet influencers/content creators with a brand to protect they obviously chose the path of protecting their brand in the face of the current anti-christian culture. One of the main cast/crew members is gay, and I'm sure their entire organization affirms all kinds of anti-christian sentiments and lifestyles. It was easier for them to give up Christianity than risk hurting their own fame and fortunes by being "canceled" for being Christian.
Alas, I think you may be correct. Case in point: Frank Schaeffer, the son of the late Francis Schaeffer. He could no longer make money living off his father's legacy, so now he's trying to get rich from bashing his legacy.
Rhett’s father is still serving in a reformed church. His brother is / was pastoring a reformed church.
The reformed / calvinistic theology is not about a relationship or focus on Jesus.
I know personally of 10-12 people from youth group who have rejected God from the same hell bent calvinism/reformed theologies. Choose wisely.
@@truthseeker5698 I wildly disagree, but what views do you hold may I ask? If not reformed theology then what do you ascribe to?
@@DemonFireRain don't all the examples in this video have Calvinistic backgrounds?
@@matthayes533 I don't know about that, but it's also one of the biggest denominations/schools of thought in theology. I don't believe people leave Christianity more because of Calvinism/Reformed theology, though. I'm more inclined to believe people stay false "Christians" through other forms of theology because it's moulded to fit their worldly views more and make them more comfortable.
The Gospel isn't comfortable and is at odds with the world. If the Gospel isn't challenging to you maybe there's something up with what you're believing.
To call prosperity hacks ‘preachers’, is a slap in the face to true teachers of the Word.
When I came to know Christ the first thing I read was 1 John. It solidified so much. If you think that you don’t sin you deceive yourself and the truth is not in you.
I hate this. It saddens me to no end. My son is one who "deconstructed". Was high on the Lord; sought after Him; read the Word; an earnest Christian; so I thought. I gave glory to God because of my son and how he had grown to be a God fearing, Jesus believing young man. Unfortunately, he went to work for a mega church that shall remain nameless and something happened. His belief changed; he saw things; actions; behaviors in people that made him question things internally. And while he never spoke to me about these things, now that he says he no longer believes, I can look back and see that he was quietly "deconstructing" during his time there. I've lost sleep over this; I've prayed for his repentance; I've prayed that the Holy Spirit would pull at his heart, believing that Jesus would not lose one; that he's just astray and that Jesus would go and search for this lost sheep that is my son whom I love so much. Hearing you say that he was never saved in the first place, breaks my heart all over again because I then was deceived and I was praising God and giving Him glory for something that was never real. I continue to pray for my son, who is a wonderful person; kind, patient, humble, charitable; possessing more characteristics of Christ than most Christians I know. He didn't deconstruct and then fall off the deep end; he just stopped believing that God exists at all. I hope and pray that these "deconstructed", ex-believers or whatever you want to call them, will find Jesus before it's too late and if not, that they realize at the Rapture, the truth; and will be amongst the Tribulation saints. Knowing what they'll have to go through though.....oh my heart.... 😞
I relate to your son’s testimony, my parents built a strong foundation on Christ just as it sounds like you did for your son.
When I found genuine repentance at 35 years old at a time when my marriage was in its deepest valley of 15 years. It was then that I believe I was truly born again and had contrition for my sin. I believe I was self righteous before that but now I’m covered in Jesus’ righteousness!
As I typed this midnight struck and the verse of the day is 2 Peter 3:9 how fitting is that
Late to the party here, but those who go through deconstruction either end up as an atheist or in the higher church like the Roman/Eastern Catholic Church or in the Lutheran Church (like I did).
I went through an intense period of deconstruction/reexamining my faith and beliefs in 2022-2023 and what I endured changed my life profoundly: 😊
Hey their just living their best life now. It's unfortunate, especially knowing the cost that was given so none would perish.
This is heartbreaking, especially when the call of the church is to "construct" - to "edify" - to create an "ediface" - to build one another up in Christ - Ephesians 4:11-16. When the church has ignored its call and doesn't build itself up in the knowledge of Christ, when Christ isn't the sure building foundation, people sadly "deconstruct" or more accurately "destruct".
That's a great, biblical way to understand it!
- Ethan from Wretched
To destruct means to take apart. But deconstruction of any idea breaks it down to its smallest parts and analyzes them. The truth holds up to scrutiny but false teaching does not. Stop teaching my cohort false teachings and they will stop falling away.
Sometimes I think that we ALL love our own flesh so much so that we will look for any reason, justify any action or inaction based on what we want. The ones who “de-construct” have deceived themselves into thinking all is well without God and faith in Christ. May God have mercy. Keep praying for them. Those that are His will come at His call.
Amen!
That time shall not come unless there be a great falling away first...
I wish I could tell Jonathan Steingard (formerly of Hawk Nelson), "Dude. Don't ditch Christianity; learn some textual criticism!" Being poorly taught is not necessarily your fault. Staying poorly taught might be.
That's what I always have said when explaining the Gospel: faith and repentance are two sides of the same coin. You cannot have faith in Jesus without also repenting, and you cannot repent without faith in Jesus. So run to Jesus and believe, and only then will you be able to repent!
"But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: 'The Lord knows those who are his,' and, 'Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.'"
2 Timothy 2:19
Yes, let them depart from iniquity, but if they are sealed, they are still His, they just lose out on rewards.
Faith and repentance are the same thing, because it means a change of mind, not of behaviors. When a person comes to Christ, their mind has been changed by a supernatural act of God. Once they are saved, when they sin, they are to confess their sin to God to not make one saved again (OSAS is completely Biblical), but to restore the relationship on the person who has sinned to where it should be with the Lord, to cleanse you of the unrighteous acts that will make you lose rewards.
@@willp.8120 I was very impressed with your answer and how well that was explained! This is how I have always believed it but I have had a hard time unraveling this in my mind recently due to life just picking up speed and losing focus - very thankful to have come across this, really grounded me on where I stand - thank you for the encouragement
Repentance just means to stop doing something. You can repent without being a Christian at all.
@@mattr.1887 You’ve confused repentance with reform.
Repentance is a metanoia, meta (change) noia (mind), a change of heart and mind. Reform is a change of behaviors.
Repentance motivates reform. But a piece is missing. Reform can be self-righteousness. Self-reform is worthless for two reasons.
- We already owe it to God to do right. You can’t pay off a debt with what you already owe. So, for reform to matter, you need God to credit Christ’s righteousness to your account.
- Reform done out of self-will is self righteousness, which God hates.
So, repentance motivates reform, but reform must be enabled by God through salvation. The self-reform of the lost may be profitable for them, but it’s worthless before God.
When it comes to salvation, I look at faith as the highway, and repentance as the on-ramp. How else will you get on the highway?
I've been hearing how awful and sinful deconstruction is. I am so glad I deconstructed. What caused it? The Bible! "Be careful little eyes what you see..." Genesis 16 "you are the God who sees me." Isn't it good to be known!
These people aren't deconstructing, you're supposed to build back with a better understanding after deconstructing. This is just demolition
A true Christian comes to Jesus because they have been shown their sinful heart by God, and then God shows that person their desperate need for Jesus the Saviour. They then throw themself upon His mercy as their only hope. This desperate need leads to true salvation that will cause this believer to cling desperately to Jesus from now till eternity. These false converts never had this work done in their heart by God.
"No, he's gonna break you." -Voddie Bauchum
Hello, I'm genuinely curious. What does this quote mean or refer to?
@@Karen-1173C Like, in a biblical sense or what Voddie was referring to?
Yep, I've heard some good stuff from Voddie Baucham, but he really outdid himself with that one!
@@Karen-1173C He may be referring to Luke 20:18 and Matthew 21:44, which reads: "He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.”
@Swords of Truth Yes, biblically speaking, what does it mean?
When the Bible says that when they went out from us that they had never been among us, I don't believe it's talking about every believer that loses his or her faith. I think it could be talking about the specific so-called followers of Jesus at that specific time who were intrigued by him but then fell away. It was not meant to be applied to all people at all times.
They were never of us. They have become stumbling blocks to all who watch their content. IIRC, after renouncing their faith, Rhett and Link were on various TV shows as entertainment. Of course the world would reward them. We can pray that God isn't done with them yet, and that He will draw them to Him and overcome their resistance.
Their departure from the faith really upset me. I love them and pray for their return to true faith in Christ.
They are out right stumbling blocks and their calm gentle demeanor let's them get away with this rebellious and adversarial posture they have with God don't be fooled by these two weak men they are as evil as any loud rude blasphemous Boisterous mocking athiest they just do it more gently.
We need to remember that God is causing all these things to unfold by His divine decree. If they cause anyone to stumble or indeed fall away, it's only to those whom God has chosen to reveal as apostate.
John 10: 28 says Jesus gives HIS SHEEP ETERNAL LIFE and no one snatches them out of His hand.
They will never cause God's people to walk away, cause God holds on to them.
Soli Deo Gloria
one scripture says "they were never of us", many more say that many will fall away, or depart from the faith
In Jesus’ parable of the sower and the seeds, he didn’t wrap it up by saying “also, in like 3 of those examples the seeds never actually existed in the first place. In like 1500 years John Calvin will come along and straighten everybody out.”
I would add one more. A proportion of people are deconstructing not necessarily from having Faith in the beginning, but rather are leaving the church. Then once they have left the Church they question everything they believed in the first place. They drift and then get lost. The bigger question is why are people leaving the church? There are many answers to that question. But I would say a big one is, that churches are becoming less about living out the gospel in community, how God intended, and more about being a social club where you have to do, say and look the right way to fit in. Thus the gospel is hidden in the background and works-based faith is proclaimed from the rooftops. Seems a little familiar to some Pharisees we all know doesn't it. Add on top of that that people are so scared to share their actual life (sin and mess) with other people of the church because they are so scared they will get judged for it that they put on the mask as they literally walk through the front door. I think more and more people are leaving the faith because God's people aren't willing to live out the faith in the community he has given. If you can't even find a church that is capable of looking somewhat like christ intended, people, come to the conclusion that there is no Christ Because the very place they are meant to see and experience him most clearly is the place where he feels most distant. The reason I add this as a distinction from your points is because of Jesus' words "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples if you love one another.”. If Love was clearer in the church perhaps Christ might be seen a little bit clearer too. And perhaps so many people wouldn't leave the church and look to the world for answers of meaning and purpose. The Gospel is central but the Gospel lived out clearly in the community by his people will be the difference between whether people live or die.
Peace
What is “the church?” are you talking about Christian churches? The ones that God says leave them or be destroyed with them? Rev 18:4, Matt 24:5
Only 2 churches, or groups of people on earth, 1 John 3:8 and 1 John 3:9
Most deconstruct because they find issues with the Bible. contradictions and errors. our pastors have know about these for literally years and refused to tell us and when we find out we question it. It's highly likely the text is not without error or contradiction and the minute we see that we are told we are demonic and sowing discord.
Not sure I can define myself as a Christian or not. I feel closer to God now, it has been 10 years since I attended church or prayed. Seems to the only time my brothers and sisters knew I existed was when I set up or put away chairs, led Bible studies, donate time or money. Every week I would 10 -15 calls to encourage my brothers. I get 2 Happy birthdays on Facebook. That's it. My church always had people with close relationships. Feels like I always was the 5th wheel.
Did you make an effort to form close relationships with others in the church?
@taebrown384 Yes, I did, there was one man I was close to because I was supporting him going through a divorce. We would eat at a restaurant, after eating he would play games on his phone. At least 3 times he stood me up with no phone call.
He would say
"I can only apologize once"
He invited me to his house where we worked on his lawn.
Even if I don't feel God's presence, even if I don't feel loved by God, after converting my faith is not my own to give or take. God is a fact to me, not a belief. It's such a crazy change to me, as someone who was and is always questioning and doubtful of everything. But sure as it is that I know things that go up must come down, so to is it that I know God exists.
I often doubt my salvation, but never His existence, holiness, perfection, or power. My general sentiment is that even if God spoke to me tomorrow and said I am 100% going to hell and nothing will ever change that, I would still be a believer and I would still worship God because God deserves it.
As I see it, that sort of devotion (which is extremely out of character for me, I am a coward and a quitter, just being honest) can only come from the hand of the divine.
What happens when you rely on feelings and not persevering and avoiding sin
I attended a charismatic denomination for over 20 years. Then for the longest time, the doctrine seemed lukewarm at best, heretical at worst. I cannot tell you how many people I’ve known from that denomination who have gone into “deconstruction.” I used to be solely Armenian in doctrine, and since then I’ve questioned it as I witnessed the “false convert” thing firsthand and realized it is real.
Lemme guess, now you're in the cult of Calvin, right? You believe that Jesus sacrifice is just a formality and real salvation is being preselected and that John 3:16 is a lie, right?
Unfortunately, this is not a denomination thing. This goes across all denominations, not just the ones that are easy to caricature. I’ve seen this deconstruction with friends, both my charismatic AND reformed friends.
@@TheAmazingJimmy there’s nothing formalistic about Jesus’s self sacrifice upon the cross, and no Calvinist has ever believed that.
Amen Brother. God is sovereign, complete!
He has predetermined all, all knowingly...even before we were created our end was determined.
The Alpha and The Omega. Amen 💛 🙏🏽
@@vilitaukolo777 Then you believe that God is the author of sin, that He wants man to sin, that He causes man to sin.
That is an evil, demonic god and not the YHWH.
How could you truly appreciate the salvation of God if you do not know what you are being saved from and why it is you need saving in the first place.
"The most transformative aspect of this whole thing for me has been to see suffering not as something that God - I used to think 'why does God allow this, I did all these things right, this stuff keeps happening, I can't handle it.’ And then you hear of other people who have horrible thing after horrible thing happen,” Stephanie said.
But within Orthodoxy, suffering is seen as a tool, she explained.
"And it actually is sometimes seen as God's mercy, which sounds really harsh and hard to accept but once you're in it and you just do, you start seeing the fruits and you see how embracing the sorrow alongside the happiness and the joy, it'll start to heal you somehow from the inside out in a way that nothing else can."
I can’t help but notice most of those famous ex-Christians are south of 50 years old, relatively healthy looking and have a comfortable life due to some success in Christian music or in writing books, etc. However, if life should become very hard in some way for any one of them and they become destitute, or if they become very ill, I wonder if they would still be as cocky as they are now? Since (usually) “there are no atheists in Fox holes,” how self confident would those young men continue to be in their godlessness?!? Who knows, even with afflictions, their hearts may be even more hardened than it is now and it may be too late! Watching these young men trying to explain why they walked away from Christ is beyond heartbreaking. 💔
When you think that you are the one that does the choosing apart from God, it's easy to make the choice to not be a Christian. When you think God is your genie and sugar daddy, it's easy to become disillusioned and turn away from the true message of "deny yourself, take up your cross daily, and follow Me."
I have no problem including repentance as a work. Sometimes it takes great effort to resist my fleshly desires. However, it’s a work that FLOWS OUT FROM faith -like all other good works God set us apart for. Someone with genuine faith WILL HAVE good works that follow, including daily taking up of one’s cross and denying self.
Where have the algorithms been keeping you all this time? May God bless you
30 years a (former) false convert here so this all resonates deeply. In my previous church there are many goats, all espousing the love/presence/heavy emphasis on the Holy Spirit.
My husband was even told he could not hand out Living Waters tracts because "they're too depressing" and that he wasn't to mention sin or hell when witnessing because it wasn't loving. Needless to say we are no longer part of that church anymore.
So they think Jesus was unloving? He preached about sin and hell quite often.
@@worshambaptist4177 that sort of question was always met with a very vague, "yeah, well, people just don't need to be told they're bad because they already know and Jesus didn't tell us to give the bad news, just the good news". But then how does someone recognise good news without knowing the bad??
@@chonkiusmaximus Yep, I always say you can't really appreciate the good news of salvation until you understand the bad news of sin and judgment. If someone told me we should talk about that, I'd point them to the words of Paul. Of course, if they played the "that's Paul, not Jesus" card, then we'd really have some problems. Anyone who thinks Jesus and Paul were on opposite sides is clearly a heretic.
The way to receive the Holy Spirit is to keep God’s laws and seek him out in prayer acts 5:32, John 14:15
God says leave the church system Revelation 18:4
There always seems to be an underlying conflict within that leads to no longer believing or picking and choosing from the bible to accomdate as needed. Homosexuality seems to be, not the only, but a common reason. I've seen several instances of individuals who, for example, leave a marriage and "deconstruct" and then end up coming out as gay. Or an individual has a family member or close friend and because this lifestyle has become so prevelant and normalized, they question how God could ever be against what they consider love. Unfortunately it doesn't end with homosexuality. Pedophilia is already being normalized and it won't end there. People say it's old fashioned to think what the bible says but history is just repeating itself and like other civilizations that have fallen before us, the degradation of morals and elimination of absolute truth will lead us to the same demise.
We are already heading towards polygamy again. It wont be long before we have calls to make it legal and a new form of marriage. Beastility wont be far behind either. Once you open the flood gates there is no closing them back. Its either man and woman, singular, or anything goes. There is no other option.
I agree with much of what you've said, and would only add to it that the church mostly gave up the moral battle for sexuality in general a long time ago. Way before LGBTQ+ became such a large issue, we had unbiblical divorce and remarriage, and also fornication between heterosexual couples before marriage. Few are the pastors who will directly address theses issues, and few are the congregations that will dare to practice church discipline on members who openly and unrepentantly flout God's teaching on sexual purity.
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I was at a church recently where a member of the Board of Elders lived with his girlfriend, and this was public knowledge. When they finally got married after 2-3 years of living together, nothing ever mentioned. Is it any wonder the average church goer doesn't take God's views on sexuality seriously when the church leaders don't heed his Word?
@@sidwhiting665 Yeah, unfortunately it's slowly been festering in the church for a long time. No better way for the devil to wreak havoc than from within. Glad our pastor and staff aren't wishy washy and walk the walk.
Amen! You said it well. I think the biggest factor in deconstruction is biblical teaching on sexuality. The bible is crystal clear on sexual morality so when people can't reconcile their own sexual proclivities with biblical teaching, they just ditch the faith. Look at what Andy Stanley is doing right now.
This was a very interesting lesson. Especially reminding us of repentance. Taking responsibility of our actions.
hello friend, doesn’t the good news say we don’t have to take responsibility for our own actions? Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
@@thsettle .,1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place..
This is the time when sheep are separated from goats. God doesn’t need us, we need God.
Fantastic video, Todd, Ethan, and crew! Thank you!
No wonder they feel off now every time I watch their show
Amen! "Repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."
WHich is completely different from ''Repent of your sins''
@@pjetri24 It is confirming because it is scripture (Acts 20:21). Note that there are 2 parts: repentance and faith.
@@pjetri24 ,1) If God wasn`t forced to created?
2) And God know beforehand he created he will create something he doesn`t want (sin) and due to his will of creating that most mankind will be doomed to eternal suffering in hell?
3) And If God don`t want that people to be in eternal pain.
4) This God won`t create something in the first place..
Keep asking questions until the answers comport with reality.
Maybe it’s because people confuse people that genuinely want answers to their questions about theology when it concerns Calvinism or arminenism or if it could possibly be both in a mysterious way? I do know though this: whomever seeks the Lord with all of his heart, will find Him.
7:27 . . . . my mouth dropped! 😮 wow! I don’t know what he’s been studying. Not the Bible.
Matthew 3:2…John, the Baptist says “Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near”…how could that guy have missed this?
Called my Father today and told him:
"Hi Dad, I'm deconstructing from believing you're my father."
Dad: "are you overdosing on your meds again my son?"
For the most part, I don’t think it’s people that get saved that are walking away. I think it’s generally those brought up in the church that were living off the faith of their parents or family. People have to have their own faith, their own relationship with God. It’s also a constant walk of repentance, walking away from what wrong, (which we sometimes love) and walking towards God.
This is powerful stuff. Thank you for sharing the truth.
So what is the right denomination? Last I checked there are thousands to chose from. Would think the inspired word of God wouldn't have so many different interpretation.
Some True Converts turned their life to Jesus with just one “Jesus loves you”, and SOME you can preach the entire Bible for years and they never Convert for real. Every Church and every Denomination has both cases.
So, basically the video show us a lot of different Pastors preaching a total difference message depending on their interpretation of the Bible, but Todd got it right, the others … didn’t. I big part of the process of Deconstruction goes actually by identifying all this contradictions in the same faith. Heartbreaking, honestly.
2:46 "I think there are few things more dangerous than preachers out there preaching that god loves everybody unconditionally."
That is one of the most blasphemous things I've ever heard.
I deconstructed from my evangelical religion and am now an atheist and this STILL shocked me.
You left out one: they love what they want more than Jesus yet blame it on circumstances so they can have the excuse to do what they want.
By the way, I've had that struggle.
Really like Todd and wretched tv
Todd , im glad you agree Repentance is not a work of man.
It’s a work of God
That is correct
Baptism is exactly the same
It is not a work of man
But of God
I'm surprised comments are allowed on this video. Todd, I don't think you understand the difference between deconstruction and deconversion. I used to believe in pre-trib rapture and then deconstructed to believe in post-mil eschatology. I used to be a Reformed Baptist and then deconstructed to believe in Covenantal Theology... and became Reformed Presbyterian (PCA). Deconstructing is a healthy part of Christian growth and maturity.
I did however de-convert from Christianity 2 weeks before Christmas 2022 after being a born-again Christian for 30+ years. I was a 5-point Calvinist for 20 of those years so I truly believed in perseverance of the saints... once saved, always saved. I pitied people like Bart Ehrman and Joshua Harris and it saddened me when they kissed Jesus goodbye. They must have not ever believed right?. And now I'm [still] in shock that I don't believe anymore and I know I believed with all my heart. I de-converted because I studied the Bible closely and discovered many contradictions in the nature and character of God. Education of the Ancient Near East, source criticism, textual criticism, logic, and reasoning caused me to doubt the entire Book, first OT and then NT.
It was not an easy decision to leave the faith and it was not by choice. I have have a full-quiver of 8 children under 18 who my wife and I have always raised in the Church. We even catechized them in the Westminster shorter catechism. Luckily my hard questions studying the Bible caused my wife to de-convert _before_ I did. Both sides of our families are believers. My younger brother is even a missionary in Japan right now. For years, I even wanted to go to seminary and become a pastor because of my love for God's Kingdom! What I discovered is we have no choice over what we believe. For 30+ years I was convinced Christianity was true and now I am convinced Christianity is NOT true. To choose to believe something despite contradicting evidence is insane and dishonest. The more I studied the Bible the more faith I had to have to hold it all together. Todd, I won't even try showing you the evidence. You have blind faith backed up by cherry-picking evidence to support it... much like how you cherry-pick verses to support your theological system and doctrines while ignoring ( eisegetically "reinterpreting" ) the verses contrary.
So sad to see people deny Jesus by denying repentance. My faith is small as a mustard seed as I've rebelled for so long, however as I deny myself as often as I can more strength comes to deny more. Our Father is merciful, but sanctification is difficult. Salvation is a gift we must truly commit to. We've been so committed to our own selfish desires and beliefs, that it seems hypocritical to then not commit as deeply to showing our Father thanks for His work.
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I am a broken sinner and by grace alone I found something greater than myself. Prayers for those waging war against their sinful flesh, and a reminder you are not alone.
All I see is Christians pushing for lower personal taxes, and laws that benefit themselves while hurting everyone who is different from themselves. Seems pretty selfish to me. If you're so broken, maybe mind your own business and worry about your magical prize dimension after this life, and let everyone else make their own choices. Right?
Excellent video! I was heavily involved in a church that believed in the prosperity gospel. I didn’t realize how much that messed with my faith until recently.
Praise the Lord for saving us from sin and allowing us to worship him eternally! His glory goes beyond any prosperity here on earth.