I would say Bayley did too. Ppl kinda forget that her heel turn was kind of a flop when it happened, but she and Sasha were the MVPs of the pandemic Era, and I'm talking EARLY pandemic Era, before they got to the Thunderdown. Her character and mic skills improved greatly in those fanless shows.
@richardmbanaso2422 I think it's the little things. Like Danielson says, it's Theatre vs Cinema. Theatre is all grand gestures and implicit imagery, Cinema is about minute details and explicit imagery. When Austin slowly faded and then passed out when he was trapped in the Sharpshooter, that's Theatre. When Reigns would grab Jey Uso by the face and pull him close to the camera, berating him about how he's the only one that can shoulder the responsibility of being champion, that's Cinema.
I feel like a promotion that did the mix perfectly was Lucha Underground. Just a shame they had no business sesne when it came to the wrestlers and just pissed everyone off.
Lucha Underground was done for by the time pandemic hit by a few years. Had they still been in business they would have set up well to film another season during the shutdowns
I agree, 100%. Lucha Underground has for me become the epitome of Pro Wrestling Entertainment. It has for real definitely reinvented the game. The way it ended was kinda sad for sure, loved the whole concept and the shows.
That's why they were able to execute on burning the fiend on that time. They're not actually live and surrounded by live fans. But it still wonders me how they execute those lightning bolts when the undertaker did his live promos.
@@jamesarnold7253but technically the figurine would be Daniel Bryan and not Bryan Danielson, so who's right really? It's a figurine of his WWE character, not him.
Man I’m going you in the ring Bryan definitely one of my favorite wrestlers. I love what he and WWE did with the Yes movement that was one of their best storylines at the time.
That Roman coming back turns heel joins Paul Heyman makes a dominant group of his family the bloodline remember the Hart foundation of 1997 it's like that but more longer
I genuinely don't understand what made the bloodline so great initially because there have been many heel turns who create a faction and becomes champion for awhile. I don't get why people put bloodline on such a high pedestal. (initial phase 2020-2021 ish) What made it "cinema" when we have seen this forever?
The season in Silver Leaves is Winter when the protagonist dies, then it transitions into Spring at the end, renewing the cycle again. Also the same season as When Time Fades Away.
Yeah, I would agree with Bryan Danielson here. Roman Reigns really benefited from the pandemic era and changed his character for the better. He was able go deep into who his character was and create a meaningful storyline that branched off throughout years that some fans like myself can still get behind.
Another odd thing from the pandemic era. All the guys that were on top during that time( in every co I can think wwe aew, tna) were all kind been put to the side when audiences returned. Also the pre tape segments and matches are a storytelling tool they should use even now when they arent forced.
A ton of people managed to have great matches despite the lack of audience. Roman vs Jey, Walter vs Dragunov and Cena vs Bray were the only one that were able to have a match that used the lack of audience to thei advantage.
I would give Paul Heyman most of the credit because he was the one who taught Roman how to talk quietly during the pandemic.. worked like a charm. Everything Roman did had Heyman's fingerprints all over it.
Roman saved wrestling, plain and simple. Not in the way Austin or Hogan did by literally preventing the company from going under, WWE is obviously already a global superpower now because of what past wrestlers did. But WWE for the longest time, well before the pandemic era began, was uncool. Basically after the ruthless regression era ended and WWE failing to make other top stars aside from Cena and Orton killed wrestling. The top gimmick being all PG and basically a glorified company kissass (love cena but that’s what he was) wasn’t cool to most fans, especially after witnessing wrestling in the 90’s and 00’s. Then Roman came around, realized wrestling was in need of something different and by god has he delivered. His change to the tribal chief has single handily helped make wrestling cool again, it’s helped create several top stars, gave us the best stories we’ve had in decades, and that’s just the start. 10-15 years from now, everyone will be talking about the greatness of what Roman did in the 2020’s
Roman can make anything work. ie.being a heel leaving with fans saying eff you Roman..in his absence it was we want Roman..upon his return The biggest Celebratory cheers. The only Tribal Chief!❤❤❤❤❤ ❤❤😅😅 Wooo I thought it was taking forever for his return
Looking at how Bryan has booked himself in aew for last few years it's understandable that Roman had a big league mindset and Bryan was just tired down by his indy way of producing a show.
crazy how so many wrestlers didnt get it, i remember some of them were even playing to the crowd to empty chairs before the thunderdome id be watching like who are you talking to lol, i wonder if roman was looking at how dumb they looked too and quickly adapted when he came back
I think his point isn't about the schedule but the difference with no crowd meant they lost the live TV feeling but there were filmography options to mix it up.
he was saying wrestling is usually like theatre, where you’re acting/playing to a crowd and their reactions. but during the pandemic there was no fans, so you had to play to the camera, like in cinema, Roman understood that and altered his style and was wrestling/talking/emoting to the camera directly because that’s where the audience was.
Roman def benefited alot during time to help build the physiology of his character
You definitely didn't mean "physiology".
@@phitdemonlol thanks, was typing too fast
@@timkruse9912It's good bruh. Happens to me on a daily basis haha.
@@phitdemonsurprised it still got that many likes
@@phitdemonit gets confusing in typing sometimes 🤣
Roman since becoming the tribal chief has been next level
Roman Reigns understood the assignment
I would say Bayley did too. Ppl kinda forget that her heel turn was kind of a flop when it happened, but she and Sasha were the MVPs of the pandemic Era, and I'm talking EARLY pandemic Era, before they got to the Thunderdown. Her character and mic skills improved greatly in those fanless shows.
Bryan Danielson seems very intelligent!
If he ever comes back to WWE, he definitely deserves to be a producer backstage.
Danielson was trained by HBK. It's not a surprise that he understands pro wrestling psychology better than others.
@@SohamBhattacharya3105 He was more trained by like William Regal, who I think is even MORE understanding of the business.
@@kennythetrend3688Being trained by both would explain why he’s a wrestling genius. He’s a student of the game.
@@jwackyj8134So he was trained by Triple H?
Roman did thought that. He said in some interview, what the wrestlers were doing during the pandemic was missing something
What was that thing it was missing?
@richardmbanaso2422 I think it's the little things.
Like Danielson says, it's Theatre vs Cinema. Theatre is all grand gestures and implicit imagery, Cinema is about minute details and explicit imagery.
When Austin slowly faded and then passed out when he was trapped in the Sharpshooter, that's Theatre.
When Reigns would grab Jey Uso by the face and pull him close to the camera, berating him about how he's the only one that can shoulder the responsibility of being champion, that's Cinema.
@@SyxxPunk Well said
Roman was the only one I could stand watching during that time because he understood
Man I’d love to see Bryan in any type of creative role once he retires.
Daniel Bryan, one of the best, most technical to ever do it.
I feel like a promotion that did the mix perfectly was Lucha Underground. Just a shame they had no business sesne when it came to the wrestlers and just pissed everyone off.
Lucha Underground was done for by the time pandemic hit by a few years. Had they still been in business they would have set up well to film another season during the shutdowns
LU was great. Still my favourite promotion of all time.
I agree, 100%. Lucha Underground has for me become the epitome of Pro Wrestling Entertainment. It has for real definitely reinvented the game. The way it ended was kinda sad for sure, loved the whole concept and the shows.
The only promotion that said that they was different from wwe and never became waterdown bootleg wwe.
I seen an interview with Roman were he pretty much says exactly that
Amazing analogy, I unapologetically call wrestling theater, because it just is in so many ways. Glad I’m not the only one who sees it that way
I miss the cinema era. That mitb match was incredible
Hell no! There was good stuff that came out during that time but aint no way I'd ever hope for another pandemic!
No MC
The Tribal Chief(the real one, not Solo🙅🏿♂️) DEFINITELY got it☝🏿
Solo
"Avegners?"
As Carlito might say: "That's not cool."
That's why they were able to execute on burning the fiend on that time. They're not actually live and surrounded by live fans.
But it still wonders me how they execute those lightning bolts when the undertaker did his live promos.
I always had respect for daniel i still have a daniel bryan figure
You always respected him but don't use his real name?
@@jamesarnold7253 because when i was still watching him he was daniel bryan. I dont watch AEW and idk why they changed his name
@@SoulAlmighty1660 it was WWE that changed his name. His name has always been Bryan Danielson. Daniel Bryan is just a character
@@jamesarnold7253but technically the figurine would be Daniel Bryan and not Bryan Danielson, so who's right really? It's a figurine of his WWE character, not him.
@corbuzchristi365 that is a good technicality
Talking to the camera was smart
Man I’m going you in the ring Bryan definitely one of my favorite wrestlers. I love what he and WWE did with the Yes movement that was one of their best storylines at the time.
The Thunderdome isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. A lot of things are massive shit, but others are brilliance based on the situation.
Daniel Bryan is the best catcheur pro wresling all time !! 🙏👏👏 "YES, YES, YES"
That Roman coming back turns heel joins Paul Heyman makes a dominant group of his family the bloodline remember the Hart foundation of 1997 it's like that but more longer
I genuinely don't understand what made the bloodline so great initially because there have been many heel turns who create a faction and becomes champion for awhile. I don't get why people put bloodline on such a high pedestal. (initial phase 2020-2021 ish)
What made it "cinema" when we have seen this forever?
@@KronosOnTheBeatThat's enough.
You've earned a sub❤
Subscribed. I like yr editing of shortsin the recent videos. Had only watched a few shorts of yours before. Will binge them in the future.😊
The season in Silver Leaves is Winter when the protagonist dies, then it transitions into Spring at the end, renewing the cycle again. Also the same season as When Time Fades Away.
GOAT recognizing GOAT. You love to see it.
I stopped watching WWE around 2015 so missed Bryan's comeback.... Would love him to have one final run in the big time before he retires.
Bryan really really loved his final wwe match with Roman on smackdown. A proper send off for him.
They really had to get an ai poster for the avengers bro 😭😭 so lazy
There's no need to use AI for those pictures
They couldn't just Google "theater photo"? For real
Yeah Roman Reigns is the aura 🔥
This's one of the reasons why an icon...John Cena acknowledged The Tribal Chief as the .....G.o.a.t... argue with ur grandma
Big brain Brian.
He recognizes draw power immediately.
I think it really helped that he was already in acting classes before that and, tbh, really benefitting from them even before that.
WWE return Daniel Bryan please please please 🙏🙏🙏
Im not a big fan of indie boy Brian, mostly because of the insufferable clowns of the IWC geeks. But respects for this He got it. Smart man. Respect.
Great way to put it
Yeah, I would agree with Bryan Danielson here. Roman Reigns really benefited from the pandemic era and changed his character for the better. He was able go deep into who his character was and create a meaningful storyline that branched off throughout years that some fans like myself can still get behind.
Another odd thing from the pandemic era. All the guys that were on top during that time( in every co I can think wwe aew, tna) were all kind been put to the side when audiences returned.
Also the pre tape segments and matches are a storytelling tool they should use even now when they arent forced.
Roman is great at playing to the camera.
Pandemic was blessing for Roman.
If it didn't happen probably he wouldn't back Drew would become the Top Guy of the company.
Wow butterfly effect.
Bailey understood it too.
Reigns liked that there were no fans to boo him during this time #neverforget2015-2019
Roman like "there no people to sound dumb to in the microphone, NOWS THE TIME"
A ton of people managed to have great matches despite the lack of audience. Roman vs Jey, Walter vs Dragunov and Cena vs Bray were the only one that were able to have a match that used the lack of audience to thei advantage.
I would give Paul Heyman most of the credit because he was the one who taught Roman how to talk quietly during the pandemic.. worked like a charm. Everything Roman did had Heyman's fingerprints all over it.
good take
The american fucking dragon ladies and gentlemen
Icytwat ❤
Roman saved wrestling, plain and simple. Not in the way Austin or Hogan did by literally preventing the company from going under, WWE is obviously already a global superpower now because of what past wrestlers did. But WWE for the longest time, well before the pandemic era began, was uncool. Basically after the ruthless regression era ended and WWE failing to make other top stars aside from Cena and Orton killed wrestling. The top gimmick being all PG and basically a glorified company kissass (love cena but that’s what he was) wasn’t cool to most fans, especially after witnessing wrestling in the 90’s and 00’s. Then Roman came around, realized wrestling was in need of something different and by god has he delivered. His change to the tribal chief has single handily helped make wrestling cool again, it’s helped create several top stars, gave us the best stories we’ve had in decades, and that’s just the start. 10-15 years from now, everyone will be talking about the greatness of what Roman did in the 2020’s
Are we not gonna talk about “Avegners”?
I’m glad people are realizing the pandemic era was actually really good
Roman can make anything work.
ie.being a heel leaving with fans saying eff you Roman..in his absence it was we want Roman..upon his return The biggest Celebratory cheers. The only Tribal Chief!❤❤❤❤❤
❤❤😅😅 Wooo I thought it was taking forever for his return
AMEN
So goood
Get Bryan Danielson in creative he understands wrestling on a level Tony Khan can’t ever
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Yes yes yes😹🔥
Matt Hardy did it first
Probably shouldnt have used the AI images, huh?
Looking at how Bryan has booked himself in aew for last few years it's understandable that Roman had a big league mindset and Bryan was just tired down by his indy way of producing a show.
I dont think bloodline would have been successful if it started with crowds
crazy how so many wrestlers didnt get it, i remember some of them were even playing to the crowd to empty chairs before the thunderdome id be watching like who are you talking to lol, i wonder if roman was looking at how dumb they looked too and quickly adapted when he came back
What a man ...
why are you using ai images in your shorts lmfao, you can look up perfectly good images of both a theater and a movie theater
But how does that make you feel?
It gets better every relisten. It became good to amazing, especially Silver Leaves. Album of the Year, easily.
☝☝☝
Was never a Bryan fan 😂😂😂 he’s good and all but 👍
The thing is, the change to pro wrestling that Danielson is championing is going to fail and is failing.
Theater... shows bollywood no he meant theater as in the Arts not forigne fantasy
that's not Bollywood
it's theatre
Thats not bollywood, In india theatre as a art is a big thing in every state theatre take place with locals
The thing also is he needed to turn heel
Am I the only one who feels like Cody doesn't entirely know how to hold the title? He looks so uncomfortable with it.
What did Roman do?
More like Paul Heyman sitting at home realizing.
Ha.
Nah it was Roman, Paul helped fine tune it, but this is Roman's brainchild.
You mean someone who cant even get over in 10 years?😂@@johnnyd1824
Its a soap opera so its television
It's ballet for men
I think his point isn't about the schedule but the difference with no crowd meant they lost the live TV feeling but there were filmography options to mix it up.
There's a live audience who impact the show. It's theatre.
You did not listen to a word of the video
Its stunt theatre
No shade to any of the people mentioned/involved in this vid but that short said exactly nothing 🤣
he was saying wrestling is usually like theatre, where you’re acting/playing to a crowd and their reactions. but during the pandemic there was no fans, so you had to play to the camera, like in cinema, Roman understood that and altered his style and was wrestling/talking/emoting to the camera directly because that’s where the audience was.
@@celtic69 ahhh - legend; thank you: that really makes sense now, cheers 🙏👍😊🙌☀️
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Romans True Genius is Fooling everyone Backstage into thinking he was good
He have no answer this this is why nobody likes Brian
Bruv.. does he even know who Roman Reigns aka Joseph’s, family is?
What does that have to do with nothing
No. Despite working with him for years and working in the wrestling industry even longer, he has no idea who Joe's family is.
Idiot.
Roman is the biggest star aside from dwayne
@@ammar675 are you a bot?
@@ufelzonmeDid Roman bang your mama? Is that why you’re mad? 😭😭😭
Bryan is a joke. Not in ring skill but boring like cody rhodes.