When Ich war in the 68th Assault Helicopter Company, the 334th armed Helicopter Company next door uncrated the first Cobra I was there to help! There was a problem at first! The older higher ranked majors and Lt Colonels were to old, fat and out of shape to hump the ammo ! So we enlisted men were stationed nearby to help those old farts, ( when everyone around you is high school age, 25 year olds were considered old guys! Lol! I used to fire up 8 cases of 7.62, 4:1 ammo just me alone in one 10 hr day just flying on slicks! When you fly guns you have to load the 40mm cannons, the Rocket tubes and the mini gun chutes! Physically crewing on choppers is a bitch! If you re6ft, you re bent over all day work8ng in a crouch!
My Dad served three tours in Vietnam. The first two flying a Cobra, the last one flying a rescue chopper. The stories were few, but gave me alittle insight into what went down. Thank you Pops! And to all those who've served, fought, and lost their lives.
My wonderful man was the one flying this huey we have the original tape of this when it was shot. It was pretty amazing that it came up on utube and he remembers when this was filmed.
This was posted seven years ago. If he's still around, please tell him, "Hello, friend! I'm young enough to be your son, but I wanted to tell you THANK YOU for your service IN VIETNAM and WELCOME HOME!!!" My father lost one of his best friends in a midair collision with his wingman while flying Cobras in Vietnam with A Battery 4/77 FA, ARA. His name was Gary Preston Tomlinson...a good and silly guy with a BIG smile and a practical joker sense of humor. To have never known him, it's strange that I saw him in a dream when I was about four years-old and didn't know who he was. I was having a nightmare and he was there, making silly faces at me, trying to cheer me up. Since then, I guess, I've felt like he's always been with me and I've though and still think of him EVERYDAY. I found the men he flew with on Facebook and they allowed me to join their page on his behalf. That was very gracious of them. I hope your husband has lived a happy and fulfilling life after Vietnam. I hope it has been all he could've hoped it could be!
My father flew these in the 361st Aviation Company (Pink Panthers), for special operations missions in Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam, during the Vietnam War (late 60's). Been shot down twice, taken a few bullets and shrapnel wounds, and he's still healthier than ever, mentally and physically. Been given the Silver Star and quite a few other medals. Spent over 24 years in the Army and retired an O6 (Colonel). The amount of pride I have for my father is indescribable. He really is my hero.
@Snow Blind Maybe the French shouldn't have lied about giving them independence then. Or maybe not treat them like shit when occupying them. You'd think years under a nazi regime would've changed their perception a bit but I guess not.
@@patdohrety2940 just think how much more dangerous it can be with a complete overhaul. The newest Tech of Weapons and computer, better armour, faster engine etc
@@platinumheart2505 Either Raytheon of Honeywell did a major upgrade on the M60: 120mm smooth bore gun, stabilized gun system, bigger engine, etc. . . . This is an export package for Taiwan. They call it the M60A3. I'm looking forward to seeing that in action against our Chinese enemies: it should rip open any Russian made junk tank
@@patdohrety2940 Russian tanks were better than American tanks untill compound armor became a thing in the US tanks, so i doubt that its going to easily outgun a T72
I could swear this is one of the films we were shown when going through AIT at Fort Eustis. We were one of the first classes trained on the AH-1 and AAH-64 or Advanced Attack Helicopter (later to be shortened to just AH-64) at the time. Cool stuff!
My father flew these in Vietnam in '71 and '72 down in the Mekong Delta. Said he never once flew in support of U.S. forces, only ARVN soldiers. Shot down twice in Cambodia. At the time it was the pinnacle of rotary wing aviation, a real killing machine! Sad the Army only has 64's now but I love when I get to see a USMC Cobra fly over occasionally!
The Cobra must have been an incredible upgrade for pilots used to flying the wide bodied B model Hueys. I've read the B models had trouble keeping up with slicks (especially after drop off) as they were so heavily loaded up with ammunition.
As an ABH3 USS BOXER LHD4 I got to work with HMM 161 Reinforced. They had Ah1w Cobras. They were bad ass. The main difference was that the Vietnam Cobras have 1 engine. The Whiskies have 2. That's just what jumps out at me. I'm sure the avionics also are a world apart. As a crash crewman we were trained in safetying the 20mm Gatling gun and also the zuni rockets. There were procedure for those. Along with cutting the pilots out. There's a panel where you can jettison the canopy to gain access to the cockpit. Pretty cool choppa!
Yes, I feel the exact same way, but no book I have read on the subject details this 20mm cannon, and I'd desperately like to see that because it sounds so badass. He said the 2 M60s would be removed, and in one of the little grooves where the m60 was, a 20mm would be put in there in its place.
correct ah-1z which is basically an upgrade to the ah-1w super cobra. Greater radars and mapping systems and such. a lot of information available out there if you just google for it.
With the Cobra production line going full. Bell came out with a C model with the Cobra drive line on Jan.1970 but it had wider blades and dual hydraulic's.
Assault and attack are the same things! To earn one air medal with flight hours…its 100 hours direct combat support ( pigs and rice missions) , or 50 hrs direct combat assault!l I earned over 30 air medals…but the only one I ever got awarded was my first air medal! I don t know why the USA despises its voters so much it can t even send them their medals! The hours are logged into the flight book! How the frick could they not know!
A light fire team means two gunships! A heavy fire team is 3 or more gunships! The heavy and light fire teams escort a lift of 10 choppers, ( troop carrying “ UH1D, slicks) armed with only a D model M60 machine gun, with butterfly trigger at the rear, firing 4:1 ball, 7.62 mm ammo linked! The armament sub systems vary! Usually mini guns , 40 mm canons, 50 caliber, 20 mm, crewman fire A model m60 s! The different sized rocket launchers fire 2.75 rockets! Illumination ships carry I million candle watt flares for night assaults!
Please think before saying stupid stuff. Battlefield 2 is a game between the bad guys and US Marines. The Apache is a US Army helicopter- the Cobra is a Marine helicopter. Why would they have Marines piloting a helicopter only used by the Army?
Indeed Great Design! and that in the late sixties, it stil looks better than the Apache ! From my childhood I love the Huey and later Bell derivites, Greetings from the Netherlands!
This was made a while back lol. The Apaches does all the tank killing and anti personnel jobs for the Army. The Cobra is for the marines and it is up close and personal pwnage.
I was saying current day usa Army doesnt use AH-1Z(known by the super cobra if not i am wrong..) the AH-1Z is the updated today Attack helicopter from earlier models tell me what to type in google so i know where u found
A note: The Air Cobra was originally a fixed wing aircraft called the P-39 Air Cobra. Most were sent to Russia on the Lend/Lease during WWII. Had an aft mounted engine with the drive shaft going between the pilot's legs.
Ya gotta be a Snake Driver carolbell2008. We had the same "glass" on our LOHs and were told the NVA did not want to waste ammo on us either. You guys were great. Someday we'll meet in Fiddler's Green.
No, I know, he said it was experimented with, both cannons were, but ultimately the 40mm was dropped, the 20mm was a little more successful. Its weird because he said the cannons were on a TAT-101 sort of frame which only the USMC Hueys (UH-1Es) had. It's possible the Navy had access to a surplus of these or something so they decided to do some field mods. I am really keen to one day settling it and seeing some Huey pics with a 20mm on em in the turret!
Great history on it's origins but the F Model, the Army's last model, is quite a different beast, lots of computers and electronics to make it fire very accurately.
Ah that's cool, thanks for telling me that. I am in a similar case where a Navy guy I know who was in Vietnam told me about moutning 20mm cannon on the chin turret of Hueys and even a 40mm CANNON at one point. He saw them, but he couldn't describe them. Says they were part of HAL-(3).
It's not an assault helicopter, it's an ATTACK helicopter. And, it's not an Apache. It's a Cobra. Don't know where you got your info about not firing at the "skinny" helicopters because I know a lot of Snake Drivers that would debate that statement. The NVA would shoot at anything that flew.
@@timothywalsh1001 -Hi Tim, I understand what the tail stinger is. At 4:57 in front of the stinger is something red hanging. Never seen that on any huey. At first I thought it was the blade tie downs left on the tail.
@marek0086 thats basically what I said........."its a smoke screen to shield landing hueys" so I knew it wasnt agent orange which is also...white when it's deployed over heavily forested regions
the cobra is totally different to the apache the apache is an assault helicopter has more armour and is 50 kmph slower the the cobra but the cobra is a support helicopter which supports troops on the ground and the apache goes in before the troops to take downthe hostiles dont blame me i watched it of a american military channel
@LTFANL69 100% correct on all points. I was crew chief on a S- Mod model back in the early eighties, and a lot of our pilots were still Viet-Nam era. Helicoptors of any kind were a major kill for the enemy.
My dad's really good friend was killed in Vietnam while flying a Cobra. I have a question that I'd prefer to have answered by a Vietnam veteran who is familiar with the subject. My dad's friend was killed while on 2 minute alert status in Phu Bai (Camp Eagle) July 3, 1971. They got a call for air support from the 101st ABN at 2220 and arrived on scene 10 minutes later and set up their orbit in preparation for attack. He and his fight leader/wingman were killed when they crashed into each other as they began their "roll in" for attack. My question is, "How could this happen? Was this kind of incident common when pilots were engaged? What conditions could've caused this accident that killed four good men?" Thanks.
+Ann Norman That's where I got the information I posted from. It was good and gave me insight into the battle and manner in which he died, but I just am not satisfied. The Army wouldn't give it's newest, most advanced close air support helicopter to anyone less than its best pilots.
I flew Hueys and Cobras in Vietnam. When flying Cobras, it was in a heavy fire team of 2 loaches flying treetop level, 1 low Cobra for immediate protection about 500 or so feet above them and a high Cobra about 1000 or so above them. On occasions when a lot of activity was spotted, usually the VC trying for the loaches with small arms or 50 caliber machine guns, the loaches would scatter and Cobras would coordinate attack. It gets hectic in combat keeping everyone in sight, handling the radios and firing the guns and rockets. We always started a gun run solo and then climbed out and gave the other Cobra a turn. I have no idea what may have happened to your dad's friend. When I went through flight school, we were taught most crashes happened with good visibility so you had to keep your "head on a swivel." You can access incident reports by specifying the unit and search for something like "Vietnam helicopter incident report for 101 ABN" and it takes you to the VHPA mentioned by Ann.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this! I've since made contact with Gary's daughter and widow and his daughter and I have become good friends on Facebook. My Army Reserve unit isn't far from where she lives and I'm on duty this weekend. I may see if she wants to have lunch or coffee while I'm here. I've read the whole report on the VHPA website and it gave me so much insight into what happened. I know it sounds strange to nonreligious people, but I've always felt like Gary Tomlinson is my guardian angel. I'm so glad you made it home safely and I deeply hope you have enjoyed your life since to its maximum capacity!
I always wondered why all the old WWII guys returned to their battlefields and met their former enemies...until I returned for a visit and ending up making it my 2nd home. For my return visit, I armed myself with knowledge about culture, history and customs and after so many years finally found the peace that was missing in my life. I made no secret of my role there during the "American War in Vietnam" and found everyone friendly, even former Viet Cong. After my first year living there, I had the opportunity to stay in a small village near My Lai. First night, we were invited to dinner under stars of the former VC commander of the area and I thought if I was going to encounter resentment, this would be the place. What he said to me upon introduction best describes my experience traveling around Vietnam, in cities and countryside, "We both did what our government told us to do. The war was a long time ago. Now is the time for peace and understanding." Many ex pats who are Vietnam vets live in Saigon and Hanoi but I have yet to meet any. I live with Vietnamese and my house is in a nice Vietnamese community with a good mix of rich and the not so rich.
You are right. I did not realize that English was not your native language so I was critiquing your grammar mainly but I apologize, I understand that writing in a second language is alyways a bit tricky. Cheers!
cobra was first purpose designed attack heicopter. you ppl saying apache is better should know it was built 25 yrs later after learning from cobra so not really a fair comparison. kinda like saying F15 is better than F86. no apaches in vietnam boys. geez
“America “lost” South Vietnam because it was an artificial construct created in the wake of the French loss of Indochina. Because there never was an “organic” nation of South Vietnam, when the U.S. discontinued to invest military assets into that construct, it eventually ceased to exist.”
Very powerful I reckon if a country could receive 50 or 60 of these armed with Hydro 70s 40 mm automatic grenade launcher for standoff attack and the chain gun of course and potentially AGM hellfire long bows or standard and two stickers on the tip and one laserguided rocket assisted 275 pound GPU retrofit it on the belly of it I reckon that’s a pretty good piece of equipment better than the predator or reaper drones to an extent
@GangstaLink If had any knowledge of our economic system you would know that It only decreases the value of our dollar and therefore puts us more in debt than we already are
Imo the Kamov looks clumsy.. It's like most of russia design... Non-existing. The cobra is atleast sleek looking. But when it comes to effectiviness the Kamov would prolly kick the Cobras ass.
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I was in the 235th Armed Helicopter Company in Vietnam from 1969 - 1970. I was an electrician, and we had 19 of these ships in our company.
I was in the 235th in 70 71
When Ich war in the 68th Assault Helicopter Company, the 334th armed Helicopter Company next door uncrated the first Cobra I was there to help! There was a problem at first! The older higher ranked majors and Lt Colonels were to old, fat and out of shape to hump the ammo ! So we enlisted men were stationed nearby to help those old farts, ( when everyone around you is high school age, 25 year olds were considered old guys! Lol! I used to fire up 8 cases of 7.62, 4:1 ammo just me alone in one 10 hr day just flying on slicks! When you fly guns you have to load the 40mm cannons, the Rocket tubes and the mini gun chutes! Physically crewing on choppers is a bitch! If you re6ft, you re bent over all day work8ng in a crouch!
I Salute you Sir !! Thanks for your service.
Ships?
@@jerrycampbell1448Was that the 235th Delta Devils?
My Dad served three tours in Vietnam. The first two flying a Cobra, the last one flying a rescue chopper. The stories were few, but gave me alittle insight into what went down. Thank you Pops! And to all those who've served, fought, and lost their lives.
My wonderful man was the one flying this huey we have the original tape of this when it was shot. It was pretty amazing that it came up on utube and he remembers when this was filmed.
This was posted seven years ago. If he's still around, please tell him, "Hello, friend! I'm young enough to be your son, but I wanted to tell you THANK YOU for your service IN VIETNAM and WELCOME HOME!!!" My father lost one of his best friends in a midair collision with his wingman while flying Cobras in Vietnam with A Battery 4/77 FA, ARA. His name was Gary Preston Tomlinson...a good and silly guy with a BIG smile and a practical joker sense of humor. To have never known him, it's strange that I saw him in a dream when I was about four years-old and didn't know who he was. I was having a nightmare and he was there, making silly faces at me, trying to cheer me up. Since then, I guess, I've felt like he's always been with me and I've though and still think of him EVERYDAY. I found the men he flew with on Facebook and they allowed me to join their page on his behalf. That was very gracious of them. I hope your husband has lived a happy and fulfilling life after Vietnam. I hope it has been all he could've hoped it could be!
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Cheers to him. Awesome video. Semper Fi Brother. Thank God for the birds in the sky.
My father flew these in the 361st Aviation Company (Pink Panthers), for special operations missions in Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam, during the Vietnam War (late 60's). Been shot down twice, taken a few bullets and shrapnel wounds, and he's still healthier than ever, mentally and physically. Been given the Silver Star and quite a few other medals. Spent over 24 years in the Army and retired an O6 (Colonel). The amount of pride I have for my father is indescribable. He really is my hero.
Since when illegally attacking other countries has become a reason for pride?..
@@politicaldjyo-moyo i dunno know but you can ask that viet cong and the north Vietnamese as well
@Snow Blind Maybe the French shouldn't have lied about giving them independence then. Or maybe not treat them like shit when occupying them.
You'd think years under a nazi regime would've changed their perception a bit but I guess not.
@@politicaldjyo-moyo the soldiers and pilots never chose to start that war
Theres not to reason why…
The Cobra is still an active platform in the U.S. Marine Air arsenal. Says a lot about how well this bird performs its mission.
Any small nation would be lucky to have a fleet of these old birds. You are correct: still a dangerous and effective weapon.
@@patdohrety2940 just think how much more dangerous it can be with a complete overhaul.
The newest Tech of Weapons and computer, better armour, faster engine etc
@@platinumheart2505 Either Raytheon of Honeywell did a major upgrade on the M60: 120mm smooth bore gun, stabilized gun system, bigger engine, etc. . . . This is an export package for Taiwan. They call it the M60A3. I'm looking forward to seeing that in action against our Chinese enemies: it should rip open any Russian made junk tank
Is no longer the cobra, is the Viper, which is a massive upgrade of this system
@@patdohrety2940
Russian tanks were better than American tanks untill compound armor became a thing in the US tanks, so i doubt that its going to easily outgun a T72
I could swear this is one of the films we were shown when going through AIT at Fort Eustis. We were one of the first classes trained on the AH-1 and AAH-64 or Advanced Attack Helicopter (later to be shortened to just AH-64) at the time. Cool stuff!
My father flew these in Vietnam in '71 and '72 down in the Mekong Delta. Said he never once flew in support of U.S. forces, only ARVN soldiers. Shot down twice in Cambodia. At the time it was the pinnacle of rotary wing aviation, a real killing machine! Sad the Army only has 64's now but I love when I get to see a USMC Cobra fly over occasionally!
Wow cool story and I thank your father for his service
The Cobra must have been an incredible upgrade for pilots used to flying the wide bodied B model Hueys. I've read the B models had trouble keeping up with slicks (especially after drop off) as they were so heavily loaded up with ammunition.
And the B models had less power on top of that, compounding the issue.
man my dad and god father flew these in vietnam. they told me stories about how great these choppers were, but now i see it. It's amazing!
As an ABH3 USS BOXER LHD4 I got to work with HMM 161 Reinforced. They had Ah1w Cobras. They were bad ass. The main difference was that the Vietnam Cobras have 1 engine. The Whiskies have 2. That's just what jumps out at me. I'm sure the avionics also are a world apart. As a crash crewman we were trained in safetying the 20mm Gatling gun and also the zuni rockets. There were procedure for those. Along with cutting the pilots out. There's a panel where you can jettison the canopy to gain access to the cockpit. Pretty cool choppa!
Never knew that the Cobra was developed from the Huey, learn something new every day!
The cobra was bad -ass. They were stationed next to us in Phan Rang. Love it when they took off over us!
0:17 damn I don´t wanne be that guy on the boat...
Well fuck he is dead
one of the first videos on yt :)
My brother Alberto Gaston was a Cobra Gunship Pilot with the 101st and served 2 tours in Vietnam.
Yes, I feel the exact same way, but no book I have read on the subject details this 20mm cannon, and I'd desperately like to see that because it sounds so badass. He said the 2 M60s would be removed, and in one of the little grooves where the m60 was, a 20mm would be put in there in its place.
correct ah-1z which is basically an upgrade to the ah-1w super cobra. Greater radars and mapping systems and such. a lot of information available out there if you just google for it.
With the Cobra production line going full. Bell came out with a C model with the Cobra drive line on Jan.1970 but it had wider blades and dual hydraulic's.
Damn, imagine being a pilot of a Huey just barely chugging along at 100kts, and see this engineering marvel pull ahead of you effortlessly?
I am really not informed on this subject, could you shortly tell me whats the difetence between a assault and a attack helicopter?
Thanks.
Assault and attack are the same things! To earn one air medal with flight hours…its 100 hours direct combat support ( pigs and rice missions) , or 50 hrs direct combat assault!l I earned over 30 air medals…but the only one I ever got awarded was my first air medal! I don t know why the USA despises its voters so much it can t even send them their medals! The hours are logged into the flight book! How the frick could they not know!
A light fire team means two gunships! A heavy fire team is 3 or more gunships! The heavy and light fire teams escort a lift of 10 choppers, ( troop carrying “ UH1D, slicks) armed with only a D model M60 machine gun, with butterfly trigger at the rear, firing 4:1 ball, 7.62 mm ammo linked! The armament sub systems vary! Usually mini guns , 40 mm canons, 50 caliber, 20 mm, crewman fire A model m60 s! The different sized rocket launchers fire 2.75 rockets! Illumination ships carry I million candle watt flares for night assaults!
Does anybody know the name or publisher of this documentary? I have been trying to find the original for years.
When was this video made? He says a 30mm cannon was put in the turret, but I have never heard of that.
@AlembicVapor Premier gunships, they are. I got to see them myself on Simmons AAF at Fort Bragg.
I worked on the AH-1F up until the AH-64 came to the European Theater in 1988.
Please think before saying stupid stuff. Battlefield 2 is a game between the bad guys and US Marines. The Apache is a US Army helicopter- the Cobra is a Marine helicopter. Why would they have Marines piloting a helicopter only used by the Army?
Indeed Great Design! and that in the late sixties, it stil looks better than the Apache
! From my childhood I love the Huey and later Bell derivites, Greetings from the Netherlands!
This was made a while back lol. The Apaches does all the tank killing and anti personnel jobs for the Army.
The Cobra is for the marines and it is up close and personal pwnage.
@Mr842902 per in the high rear flys,, person in the forward front controlls the weapons.
I was saying current day usa Army doesnt use AH-1Z(known by the super cobra if not i am wrong..) the AH-1Z is the updated today Attack helicopter from earlier models
tell me what to type in google so i know where u found
A note: The Air Cobra was originally a fixed wing aircraft called the P-39 Air Cobra. Most were sent to Russia on the Lend/Lease during WWII. Had an aft mounted engine with the drive shaft going between the pilot's legs.
Bell P-39s were Airacobras
Dude! Brazil needs a least a Cobra, the closest thing we got from an attack hellicopter is that crappy Pantera!
to be honest the Pantera, aka the Eurocopter AS-565 Dauphin is a fast copter that can holds it own!
Yes, there must be a fixed date?
Ya gotta be a Snake Driver carolbell2008. We had the same "glass" on our LOHs and were told the NVA did not want to waste ammo on us either. You guys were great. Someday we'll meet in Fiddler's Green.
What date is it ending on?
No, I know, he said it was experimented with, both cannons were, but ultimately the 40mm was dropped, the 20mm was a little more successful. Its weird because he said the cannons were on a TAT-101 sort of frame which only the USMC Hueys (UH-1Es) had. It's possible the Navy had access to a surplus of these or something so they decided to do some field mods.
I am really keen to one day settling it and seeing some Huey pics with a 20mm on em in the turret!
We carried a 20 mm on one of our wings. The pilot had to hold his door while firing it because the vibrations were so strong the door opened.
Great history on it's origins but the F Model, the Army's last model, is quite a different beast, lots of computers and electronics to make it fire very accurately.
I transitioned from flight school to Cobra school in 1970 and they were all G models. Ones I flew in Vietnam were G.
Ah that's cool, thanks for telling me that. I am in a similar case where a Navy guy I know who was in Vietnam told me about moutning 20mm cannon on the chin turret of Hueys and even a 40mm CANNON at one point. He saw them, but he couldn't describe them. Says they were part of HAL-(3).
It's not an assault helicopter, it's an ATTACK helicopter. And, it's not an Apache. It's a Cobra. Don't know where you got your info about not firing at the "skinny" helicopters because I know a lot of Snake Drivers that would debate that statement. The NVA would shoot at anything that flew.
I've seen this video many times and have always wondered what the red thing is hanging in front of the tail stinger? (Under the vertical stab)
It's the tail stinger...
Prevents tail rotor from accidentally hitting the ground
@@timothywalsh1001 -Hi Tim, I understand what the tail stinger is. At 4:57 in front of the stinger is something red hanging. Never seen that on any huey. At first I thought it was the blade tie downs left on the tail.
Wouldn't want that thing after me-! Imagine what the VC endured.
The Snake 🐍 WILL bite! Semper Fidelis
@marek0086 thats basically what I said........."its a smoke screen to shield landing hueys" so I knew it wasnt agent orange which is also...white when it's deployed over heavily forested regions
normally the guy in the rear seat is the pilot, the one in front is the gunner
the cobra is totally different to the apache the apache is an assault helicopter has more armour and is 50 kmph slower the the cobra but the cobra is a support helicopter which supports troops on the ground and the apache goes in before the troops to take downthe hostiles dont blame me i watched it of a american military channel
@LTFANL69 100% correct on all points. I was crew chief on a S- Mod model back in the early eighties, and a lot of our pilots were still Viet-Nam era. Helicoptors of any kind were a major kill for the enemy.
Army or Marines?
yea cobra was mainly a muilty choper, my dad had flown one into Henoy when they were leaving out
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It's Super-Cobra. Not conventional Cobra.
My dad's really good friend was killed in Vietnam while flying a Cobra. I have a question that I'd prefer to have answered by a Vietnam veteran who is familiar with the subject. My dad's friend was killed while on 2 minute alert status in Phu Bai (Camp Eagle) July 3, 1971. They got a call for air support from the 101st ABN at 2220 and arrived on scene 10 minutes later and set up their orbit in preparation for attack. He and his fight leader/wingman were killed when they crashed into each other as they began their "roll in" for attack. My question is, "How could this happen? Was this kind of incident common when pilots were engaged? What conditions could've caused this accident that killed four good men?" Thanks.
+Ann Norman That's where I got the information I posted from. It was good and gave me insight into the battle and manner in which he died, but I just am not satisfied. The Army wouldn't give it's newest, most advanced close air support helicopter to anyone less than its best pilots.
+Ann Norman Yes. Thank you for your help.
I flew Hueys and Cobras in Vietnam. When flying Cobras, it was in a heavy fire team of 2 loaches flying treetop level, 1 low Cobra for immediate protection about 500 or so feet above them and a high Cobra about 1000 or so above them. On occasions when a lot of activity was spotted, usually the VC trying for the loaches with small arms or 50 caliber machine guns, the loaches would scatter and Cobras would coordinate attack. It gets hectic in combat keeping everyone in sight, handling the radios and firing the guns and rockets. We always started a gun run solo and then climbed out and gave the other Cobra a turn.
I have no idea what may have happened to your dad's friend. When I went through flight school, we were taught most crashes happened with good visibility so you had to keep your "head on a swivel." You can access incident reports by specifying the unit and search for something like "Vietnam helicopter incident report for 101 ABN" and it takes you to the VHPA mentioned by Ann.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting this! I've since made contact with Gary's daughter and widow and his daughter and I have become good friends on Facebook. My Army Reserve unit isn't far from where she lives and I'm on duty this weekend. I may see if she wants to have lunch or coffee while I'm here. I've read the whole report on the VHPA website and it gave me so much insight into what happened. I know it sounds strange to nonreligious people, but I've always felt like Gary Tomlinson is my guardian angel.
I'm so glad you made it home safely and I deeply hope you have enjoyed your life since to its maximum capacity!
I always wondered why all the old WWII guys returned to their battlefields and met their former enemies...until I returned for a visit and ending up making it my 2nd home. For my return visit, I armed myself with knowledge about culture, history and customs and after so many years finally found the peace that was missing in my life. I made no secret of my role there during the "American War in Vietnam" and found everyone friendly, even former Viet Cong. After my first year living there, I had the opportunity to stay in a small village near My Lai. First night, we were invited to dinner under stars of the former VC commander of the area and I thought if I was going to encounter resentment, this would be the place. What he said to me upon introduction best describes my experience traveling around Vietnam, in cities and countryside, "We both did what our government told us to do. The war was a long time ago. Now is the time for peace and understanding."
Many ex pats who are Vietnam vets live in Saigon and Hanoi but I have yet to meet any. I live with Vietnamese and my house is in a nice Vietnamese community with a good mix of rich and the not so rich.
You are right. I did not realize that English was not your native language so I was critiquing your grammar mainly but I apologize, I understand that writing in a second language is alyways a bit tricky. Cheers!
whats going on at 2:08 is that smoke is it supposed to do that?
Agent Orange?
cobra was first purpose designed attack heicopter. you ppl saying apache is better should know it was built 25 yrs later after learning from cobra so not really a fair comparison. kinda like saying F15 is better than F86. no apaches in vietnam boys. geez
Steve:I know from Attach Helicopters Cobra kills 39.999 Vietnams Humans!!!
I think the AH-64 Apache would be a better chopper.
wait, YOU fighted and flew a cobra in vietnam?
Just saw one in person yesterday. So intimidating!
This was uploaded 16 years ago??? Wasn’t RUclips invented in 2009?
2006
Provinchial - Do you think that Vietnam and today's Iraq conflict are very similar?
ele comprou uh-1, quatro se nao me engano, blindados
Better and experienced than apache
Enemy Cobra Incoming means it's time to take cover
Thanks for this 👍
\m/ 4:41 is this helicopter pissing all over the VC
good but why they lost the war even with such strong things like that??
“America “lost” South Vietnam because it was an artificial construct created in the wake of the French loss of Indochina. Because there never was an “organic” nation of South Vietnam, when the U.S. discontinued to invest military assets into that construct, it eventually ceased to exist.”
Maybe. It all depends on how you use it.
ahhh! my grandpa flew these(:
Damn this video is 1 year older than me
the cobra is cool, but for maximum fire power i prefer the apache also
itself cobra sound background bell 222-230
not cobra sound it is a sound bell 222-bell 230
I love this machine!
The VC prisoners told our interrogators that they learned quickly NOT to shoot at the 'skinny' helicopters!
Very powerful I reckon if a country could receive 50 or 60 of these armed with Hydro 70s 40 mm automatic grenade launcher for standoff attack and the chain gun of course and potentially AGM hellfire long bows or standard and two stickers on the tip and one laserguided rocket assisted 275 pound GPU retrofit it on the belly of it I reckon that’s a pretty good piece of equipment better than the predator or reaper drones to an extent
They make it look so easy to fly but on bf3
There's No Cure When This Snake Bites !
Semper Fi
that boat got spraid
Communism should have been ended for good back then.
Yea same: 1. KA-50 Hokum 2. KA-52 3. AH-1 Cobrra 4. Apache 5. Mi24 Hind
i met someone in this video today
@lexlov250 only thing thats missing is them singing "in the navy"
2006 😢
2023 ❤
Instantly thought of River Raid...
Were they Vietnam relevant?
phil , steagle is right
Cool thanks for info :)
This is flying death....
makes a nice day out of a virtual hack huh boys?
Enemy of nature
@GangstaLink
If had any knowledge of our economic system you would know that It only decreases the value of our dollar and therefore puts us more in debt than we already are
Imo the Kamov looks clumsy.. It's like most of russia design... Non-existing. The cobra is atleast sleek looking.
But when it comes to effectiviness the Kamov would prolly kick the Cobras ass.
True
did u know that during the vietnam war USa lost over 5000 choppers and 1 Orange county bike. eat that.
allways the Bell scrap Helicopter
is that agent orange at 2:18?
Who the fuck is agent orange?
bell 222 230 sound
amazing toy ❤
Hell yeah we did!!!
Wow!
This helicopter is iranian helicopter or very simular to a iranian helicopter called toufan 2.
Iranianoilbourse Its an American Helicopter
I wouldn't either!