i have massive respect for people who have done this kind of work before. it is the most tedious, painstaking, annoying process you will ever have to do in a lab and it drove me crazy. imagine washing dishing at a restaurant, but the dishes will never get clean without 100% of your focus for multiple hours. i went to bed most nights hearing the whirr of the machine and visualizing the spinning of the cross section sand papers.... man i don't miss it.
This video is very interesting and well executed: I was looking for some videos which shows practically what I am studying theorethically in the metallurgy course, and this is perfect to see how these techniques are applied in the real world :)
I spent many hours polishing one mil, 25 micron, gold wire bond to Al metallisation on IC devices to examine Au-Al intermetallic compound formation: particularly the dreaded "purple plague." Soothing music and a bottle of good red wine helped. {Did this for years in my home lab. }
Congratulations your presentations are very good. I would ask you if you could put subtitles for people with hearing problems. Congratulations again and thanks for your effort.
+ΘΩΜΑΣ ΚΟΥΜΑΡΗΣ Answer to "I would ask you if you could put subtitles for people with hearing problems": Not at the moment, sorry, but a lot of thanks for this suggestion, we are thinking about it.
@@robertmurrayscott9542 I am a music composer now I sell my music on Apple Music Spotify etc but I also do research on Mathematics and science in general the research part is a little less official than the music
Hi, informative video, I have a question though: How to break a small sample out of a resin? if you have to perform hardness and you don't want the resin to effect the measurements, how shall I proceed to take out a sample from resin?
Answer to "How to break a small sample out of a resin? if you have to perform hardness and you don't want the resin to effect the measurements, how shall I proceed to take out a sample from resin?": You do not need to remove the sample from the resin. Select a suitable test force for the Vickers hardness test (e.g. 1 or 0.1 kp) and carry out the test. Only clamp the resin properly, it should not move horizontally or tilt. A slight elastic yielding has no consequences, as the Vickers test is force-controlled. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing thats interesting And very clean and fully furnished lab. Where is it? Do you Guys have a graduate program in metallography? My major is on microstructure mainly on steel. I really need to study more on this subject.
The lab is at Karlsruhe University of Applied Sciences in Southern Germany. Sorry to state, that we do not specialise in this area, it just part of our Mechanical Engineering education.
Thank you for posting this excellent video and also the Metallography Part 1, on macroscopic techniques. These were very informative and helpful for me.
Answer to "Are you still running Windows 2000 for the microscope ;D" Might have been at that time, when we recorded the video; we have had some variants in the meantime, now Win7, we are very conservative ...
For brass 3% Ferric Chloride works , aluminium is usually anodised in fluoroboric acid - and looked at under polarised light to see the grains - castings usually don't need etching because the Si in the alloys stands out in the polished state.
I thought at first that the resin was cured in vacuum, because there is no air included. Where can I buy that kind of resin? It is different from the one used by modellers.
Answer to "I thought at first that the resin was cured in vacuum, because there is no air included. Where can I buy that kind of resin? It is different from the one used by modellers." There are many types of resins, such as two-component resins or heat curing resins. In the video we used a light-curing resin (Technovit 2000 LC), which has the advantage of transparency and easy understanding of our work in the video, but also some disadvantages. In most cases a vacuum is not required. But as you point out, vacuum curing is best. Often the filling-in of the resin (mostly not used with the light-curing ones) is done under vacuum, and then the mold is set under high pressure and elevated temperature to bring the resin to the smallest remaining cavities and start curing.
Answer to "Excellent video! Which solution do you use to reveal the grains? Thanks." The etching agents may be quite different for different materials. The etching agent for the steel in the video was a solution of 10 % of concentrated HNO3 in 90 % of ethanol. It works quite well.
Answer to "Thanks for the answer. I'm trying to polish aluminum but it's very soft and I can not polish it all right." Aluminium materials, especially soft aluminium, need special preparation techniques. There are a number of books on the market who deal with this problem. You can also contact the websites of the typical suppliers of metallographic preparation materials. Sorry, I do not have enough own experience for a good advice.
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It's a very nice video, thanks for sharing...Nice job
the eye piece of the telescope was removed from the theodolite so the observer could observe distance of even one meter ........ when the eye piece of the telescope has a higher resolution and rays incident on the lens can resolved into its constituent elements ....and distant objects will be able to visualize the grain structure of the metallography ........
Answer to "What standard does he talk about when he says C80?": C80 is a European standard designation and refers to an unalloyed steel with 0.8% carbon content.
Answer to "It's a very instructive summary about cross section metalography, How can I know what materials are using? Can I buy those?": The materials have been collected over several years on many occasions, one cannot buy them, sorry.
Answer to "What the advantage from rinsing the sample with alcohol": Normal tap water would cause staining on the sample surface. Distilled water is better in this respect, but tends to coagulate on the sample surface or even corrode it during the drying process. Alcohol (ethanol) is a good rinsing and cleaning agent in most cases. It does not coagulate on the surface when drying, it is not corrosive (in most cases), and does not cause environmental damage.
Answer to "What is the appropriate method to etch the zirconia material": In general, ceramic materials such as zirconia (ZrO2) differ significantly from metallic materials. Unfortunately, we are not experts in ceramics. However, chemical etching with phosphoric acid or thermal etching are common.
Ahmed El Fadel The liquid is just water. Sometimes we use water with a small addition of a detergent or a small addition of an organic acid to remove rust or oxides.
At my university we do the grinding and polishing *without* the resine. The samples we have have a bigger diameter, but I'm still afraid that might be why we always get such bad results haha.
Dear sir i have an doupt here this type, lesin was used on plastic mould purpose and treated but then why we use backelite powder on mould in the ECD findout.
The etching procedure has to be performed inside a fume hood. You shouldn't rinse the specimen with water and alcohol inside the sink after etching. It should be rinsed with alcohol and the waste should go into a labelled polyethylene container.
Answer to "The etching procedure has to be performed inside a fume hood. You shouldn't rinse the specimen with water and alcohol inside the sink after etching. It should be rinsed with alcohol and the waste should go into a labelled polyethylene container.": You are absolutely right, this is the correct procedure. But in our case, all chemicals (alcohol, diluted nitric acid, very small amounts, few samples) our procedure is allowed in a laboratory, at least in Germany. But only in this case! In other circumstances (vapours, hazardous chemicals, environmentally harmful chemicals) you have to take all the precautions you mentioned.
First I want to say thank you, this is awesome I don't know if I ever would have got to see how any of this is done. One thing though... how can you go from "This is now called a metalagraphic specimen" expecting people to just go "ok, I understand", but then explain for a minute what inverted means? Not actually a critique just made me laugh.
Absolutely not. Cloths can only go rougher, once used with higher grain size (lower grit), it can only go for that size, no longer it can't be used for lower grain size (higher grit). Since there is no way to keep samples absolutely clean form the previous stage, service time of fine cloths (>1 micron) is very short. But they can be then used for 3 microns, then for 6 microns, etc. Fairly serviced fine cloths can also be used as intermediate step to clean up the sample before introducing it to a serviceable fine cloth of the same polishing step.
If I want to assess the structure of cement concrete, I will have to dehydrate the samples, which indicates that I am going to visualize the structure without the important hydration products such as CSH (calcium silicate hydrate) and CH (calcium hydroxide). Don't you think it does not portray a good message in the field of concrete or cement? (Nevertheless, if you search about SEM of cement- or concrete-based samples, you will come across a myriad of papers incorporating SEM testing of these products.)
Answer to "If I want to assess the structure of cement concrete, I will have to dehydrate the samples, ...": For a more detailed answer see also our SEM video comments. In metallography (or rather materialography) the problem is similar. However, here there is not the problem with the vacuum. Here it is a matter of embedding the sample appropriately and replacing all liquids with suitable solids, for example polymers, without changing the sample. A standard method in biology, simplified: replace the water with alcohol, replace the alcohol with liquid resin, cure the resin, and then prepare your microsection.
i would like to asking u about a decarburazion process.. i dont get the layer on the material after eching process.. can u post the proper step or method for decarburazation for quenching steel.. tq
Answer to "Why pearlite appears as dark and ferrite appears as white?": The etching method we have used is grain boundary and phase boundary etching. This etching method does not produce any colours and there is no black and white contrast. So after etching, the surface of the sample is still completely clean, metallic and shiny. The only effect created by etching is a 3D structuring of the surface: small grooves are created between grains and between different phases. Ferrite consists of one phase (ferrite itself), pearlite consists of small lamellae of two phases (ferrite and cementite). Although ferrite and cementite are silvery and shiny, the phase boundaries between them have a three-dimensional structure. Thus, a ferrite grain appears light, while a pearlite region appears rather dark, because this etching process has created many small grooves between the ferrite and cementite crystals. It is difficult to explain this without a very long explanation and the iron-carbon phase diagram.
The appearance of pearlite as dark and ferrite as white in optical microscopy is primarily due to differences in the etching response of these phases during metallographic preparation. Ferrite is a pure iron phase with a body-centered cubic (BCC) crystal structure. It has fewer defects and a relatively homogeneous structure. When etched, ferrite reacts less with the etchant, leading to a smoother surface that reflects light more uniformly. This gives ferrite its bright or white appearance under the microscope. Pearlite is a lamellar mixture of ferrite and cementite (Fe₃C). Cementite is much harder and more chemically reactive than ferrite. When etched, the etchant attacks the ferrite component more aggressively and accentuates the lamellar structure. The roughened surface scatters light, making pearlite appear dark under the microscope.
Answer to "if I only have a 160x magnification microscope ...can I use it for microstructure analysis": Well, to use different magnifications is always better, but you can already do a lot with 160x, it is a good compromise. Just try it!
Answer to "May I ask what etchant is suitable for the 304 stainless steel? I fail in observing the microstructure." In this case you have to use very strong etching agents, for example a mixture of HCl, water, HNO3, and other substances, too complicated to tell here. You find it in the internet and in some books on metallography - and very important, you also find the appropriate safety instructions.
Answer to "please advise what program or image analyzer you use to see the actual image on the monitor":It is the Axiovision programme from Zeiss. There are many other programs on the market that serve the purpose in a similar manner ...
Answer to "How to etch 3D printed 316 l sample ? I am etching with swab I can scratches I think those are of swab. Is it okay to deep sample in etchant": It is generally better to prepare a good microsection and then immerse the entire microsection in the etchant, as shown in the video. Etching with a swab is also possible, but only soft and clean swabs should be used to avoid scratches.
Answer to "Can we conduct the examination of microscope without etching process? can someone explain for me?": Without etching (only grinding and polishing), you can only see the phases in the material that have a different color or light absorption in comparison with the surrounding phases, but you cannot see grain boundaries, for example. This is shown in the video.
Answer to "Em, can someone tell me what is the liquid used in the final process of polishing?" The diamond suspension polishing was done with 6 micrometers resp. 3 micrometers grain size diamonds in a liquid that mainly consists of water (we do not know the exact composition, a lubricant is added). The last polishing operation was done with alumina suspension (50 nm grain size) in water.
Answer to the question "Why was a fine grinding step not necessary?": All grinding steps are (normally) necessary, including the fine grinding step. The fine grinding step was not shown in the video, but only mentioned in the off-text.
This is really great. I'm starting my titanium sample prep in due course. I am wondering whether there is a difference in results between automatic polishing/grinding and manual polishing/grinding.
Answer to "I am wondering whether there is a difference in results between automatic polishing/grinding and manual polishing/grinding": Properly carried out, there should not be a difference. Generally, titanium samples are comparatively difficult to prepare.
Answer to "Plz tell the precise time of etching": The etching time can vary greatly, from 2 seconds to several minutes, depending on the etchant and the material. In most cases, you have to try it out.
Answer to: "Best clean with ultrasonic between polishing form 6 to 1 microns and to 0.1 alumina" Yes, ultrasonic cleaning is a good option, and we use it a lot. However, it is not always necessary, and it has to be done cautiously. Some materials may be damaged when using ultrasonic cleaning with too much intensity and for a too long time.
There are quite a few etchants available for stainless steels. For austenitic steels for instance we often use a solution of HCl, HNO3 and a special pickling inhibitor (Sparbeize in German) in water. For colour etching the Beraha II etching technique leads to good results.
Answer to "what is the final polishing liquid name??": There are several brand names on the market, but scientifically, the final polishing suspension consists of very fine (grain size 50 nm) aluminium oxide (Al2O3) particles in water.
Answer to "In the final etching test he is not wear hand gloves..": Correct, but in this case that is due to the comparatively quite mild etchant. We did this because we have a lot of experience with this etchant. But please remember to wear gloves in any case!
Answer to "How can check grain flow of steel": You probably mean the plastic flow (plastic deformation) of individual grains in steels. If yes, then the plastic deformation may principally be detected by special etching techniques which show the density of dislocations inside the grains, but this is difficult. If plastic deformation is comparatively large, the plastic deformation may simply be detected by the shape of the grains (elongated).
+Yashwant Patil Answer to "which resin used for mounting of specimen?" We use Technovit 2000 LC, a light curing resin which has certain advantages (easy to handle, transparency > good for the control of the sectional plane) and certain disadvantages (relatively soft, high shrinkage, danger of gaps between specimen and resin).
Answer to "2:53 Which product was used?" We have used the light curing resin "Technovit 2000 LC". It has the main advantages of transparency and easy handling, but the disadvantages (i) sometimes there is a small gap between resin and the specimen and (ii) it is not very hard.
Answer to "I've been a metallurgist for over 40 years - 2% Nital would have been better than 10% . Also why not refer to the steels as 1054, 1080 etc.": Thank you! You are right about using 2% Nital. The etching time is longer, rinsing is easier, etc.. We used 10% Nital to speed up the etching time for the video. And we used the standardised European designations for the steels, simply because we live in Europe. Unfortunately, there are no international (ISO) steel designations yet.
i have massive respect for people who have done this kind of work before. it is the most tedious, painstaking, annoying process you will ever have to do in a lab and it drove me crazy. imagine washing dishing at a restaurant, but the dishes will never get clean without 100% of your focus for multiple hours.
i went to bed most nights hearing the whirr of the machine and visualizing the spinning of the cross section sand papers.... man i don't miss it.
I was recommended this video by my teacher, totally worth the time.
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Thanks so much for making your videos available! They are great!
This video is very interesting and well executed: I was looking for some videos which shows practically what I am studying theorethically in the metallurgy course, and this is perfect to see how these techniques are applied in the real world :)
By watching this video i have been able to check the grain size of metals. the thorough explanation helped me a lot.
I spent many hours polishing one mil, 25 micron, gold wire bond to Al metallisation on IC devices to examine Au-Al intermetallic compound formation: particularly the dreaded "purple plague."
Soothing music and a bottle of good red wine helped. {Did this for years in my home lab. }
This channel is epic, biblical, mind-blowing. You guys are the best. Thanks for the absolulety HIGH QUALITY CONTENT. Aaaaaa
2019 and still impacting students like me. thanks.
Congratulations your presentations are very good. I would ask you if you could put subtitles for people with hearing problems. Congratulations again and thanks for your effort.
+ΘΩΜΑΣ ΚΟΥΜΑΡΗΣ Answer to "I would ask you if you could put subtitles for people with hearing problems": Not at the moment, sorry, but a lot of thanks for this suggestion, we are thinking about it.
Nice presentation and explanation. Glove up when using chemicals as a caution.
Good suggestion
what is the chemical used?
Keep on doing it....It's very useful for me...Thanks for the team...
Thank you for this video. I am from West Bengal, India. ❤
How many of you are here because of lab of material science !!
I don’t know why in here. But I like it here
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I'm here because i have to go and perform some experiments for my project work, and it's due tomorrow.
What do you do for living?
very nice video, very educating
Great video! I would've liked to see some PPE.
Any video on colour or tint etching will be highly appreciable
I did all these in the university while studying mining and metallurgical engineering
where do you work now?
@@robertmurrayscott9542 I am a music composer now I sell my music on Apple Music Spotify etc but I also do research on Mathematics and science in general the research part is a little less official than the music
Awesome video… thanks for sharing this. So detailed and puts you in shoes of the lab person.
Hi, informative video, I have a question though:
How to break a small sample out of a resin? if you have to perform hardness and you don't want the resin to effect the measurements, how shall I proceed to take out a sample from resin?
Answer to "How to break a small sample out of a resin? if you have to perform hardness and you don't want the resin to effect the measurements, how shall I proceed to take out a sample from resin?": You do not need to remove the sample from the resin. Select a suitable test force for the Vickers hardness test (e.g. 1 or 0.1 kp) and carry out the test. Only clamp the resin properly, it should not move horizontally or tilt. A slight elastic yielding has no consequences, as the Vickers test is force-controlled. Good luck!
Thanks for sharing thats interesting And very clean and fully furnished lab.
Where is it?
Do you Guys have a graduate program in metallography?
My major is on microstructure mainly on steel.
I really need to study more on this subject.
The lab is at Karlsruhe University of Applied Sciences in Southern Germany. Sorry to state, that we do not specialise in this area, it just part of our Mechanical Engineering education.
Thanks for your response
Thank you for posting this excellent video and also the Metallography Part 1, on macroscopic techniques. These were very informative and helpful for me.
Nice presentation and explanation
Thank you! That's so precise.
This is a very good explanation
I like dryer setup. What's more scientific than ordinary hairdryer attached to the holder.
best video on material science. more videos on material science and NDT , DESTRUCTIVETESTING will be appreciated.
Thank you very much for share this video it is really very help for sample preparing
9:24 "Excitement increases"
Cool video. I didn't know robots are running this lab :)
Are you still running Windows 2000 for the microscope ;D
Answer to "Are you still running Windows 2000 for the microscope ;D" Might have been at that time, when we recorded the video; we have had some variants in the meantime, now Win7, we are very conservative ...
Very instructive. Thanks for sharing :)
What are the best etchant for brass and Aluminum?
For brass 3% Ferric Chloride works , aluminium is usually anodised in fluoroboric acid - and looked at under polarised light to see the grains - castings usually don't need etching because the Si in the alloys stands out in the polished state.
I thought at first that the resin was cured in vacuum, because there is no air included. Where can I buy that kind of resin? It is different from the one used by modellers.
Answer to "I thought at first that the resin was cured in vacuum, because there is no air included. Where can I buy that kind of resin? It is different from the one used by modellers." There are many types of resins, such as two-component resins or heat curing resins. In the video we used a light-curing resin (Technovit 2000 LC), which has the advantage of transparency and easy understanding of our work in the video, but also some disadvantages. In most cases a vacuum is not required. But as you point out, vacuum curing is best. Often the filling-in of the resin (mostly not used with the light-curing ones) is done under vacuum, and then the mold is set under high pressure and elevated temperature to bring the resin to the smallest remaining cavities and start curing.
Excellent video! Which solution do you use to reveal the grains? Thanks.
Answer to "Excellent video! Which solution do you use to reveal the grains? Thanks." The etching agents may be quite different for different materials. The etching agent for the steel in the video was a solution of 10 % of concentrated HNO3 in 90 % of ethanol. It works quite well.
@@MaterialsScience2000 Thanks for the answer. I'm trying to polish aluminum but it's very soft and I can not polish it all right.
Answer to "Thanks for the answer. I'm trying to polish aluminum but it's very soft and I can not polish it all right." Aluminium materials, especially soft aluminium, need special preparation techniques. There are a number of books on the market who deal with this problem. You can also contact the websites of the typical suppliers of metallographic preparation materials. Sorry, I do not have enough own experience for a good advice.
It's a very nice video, thanks for sharing...Nice job
the eye piece of the telescope was removed from the theodolite so the observer could observe distance of even one meter ........ when the eye piece of the telescope has a higher resolution and rays incident on the lens can resolved into its constituent elements ....and distant objects will be able to visualize the grain structure of the metallography ........
Whay standard does he talk about when he says C80?
Answer to "What standard does he talk about when he says C80?": C80 is a European standard designation and refers to an unalloyed steel with 0.8% carbon content.
@@MaterialsScience2000 thank you for you reply really help full
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It's a very instructive summary about cross section metalography, How can I know what materials are using? Can I buy those?
Answer to "It's a very instructive summary about cross section metalography, How can I know what materials are using? Can I buy those?": The materials have been collected over several years on many occasions, one cannot buy them, sorry.
Thank you for this great video
What the advantage from rinsing the sample with alcohol
Answer to "What the advantage from rinsing the sample with alcohol": Normal tap water would cause staining on the sample surface. Distilled water is better in this respect, but tends to coagulate on the sample surface or even corrode it during the drying process. Alcohol (ethanol) is a good rinsing and cleaning agent in most cases. It does not coagulate on the surface when drying, it is not corrosive (in most cases), and does not cause environmental damage.
What is the appropriate method to etch the zirconia material
Answer to "What is the appropriate method to etch the zirconia material": In general, ceramic materials such as zirconia (ZrO2) differ significantly from metallic materials. Unfortunately, we are not experts in ceramics. However, chemical etching with phosphoric acid or thermal etching are common.
Thanks it helped me on my report.
Very useful for my work as a knife maker 👍🏻
Superb demonstration👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
amazing video.........and also i need information about rock sampling steps for poly sections,,, thank you for great video.....
thank you i can now write my practical paper
Great video! Very informational, and clear to the point. What was the liquid in the ultra sonic cleaner? Was that just water?
Ahmed El Fadel The liquid is just water. Sometimes we use water with a small addition of a detergent or a small addition of an organic acid to remove rust or oxides.
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At my university we do the grinding and polishing *without* the resine. The samples we have have a bigger diameter, but I'm still afraid that might be why we always get such bad results haha.
Very education science video🔬thank you sir
Dear sir
i have an doupt here this type, lesin was used on plastic mould purpose and treated but then why we use backelite powder on mould in the ECD findout.
resin(lesin)
Is this recommended for Marine Engineers
Had this lab today except the resin capsule was a quarter of the size and was not fun to grind.
The etching procedure has to be performed inside a fume hood. You shouldn't rinse the specimen with water and alcohol inside the sink after etching. It should be rinsed with alcohol and the waste should go into a labelled polyethylene container.
Answer to "The etching procedure has to be performed inside a fume hood. You shouldn't rinse the specimen with water and alcohol inside the sink after etching. It should be rinsed with alcohol and the waste should go into a labelled polyethylene container.": You are absolutely right, this is the correct procedure. But in our case, all chemicals (alcohol, diluted nitric acid, very small amounts, few samples) our procedure is allowed in a laboratory, at least in Germany. But only in this case! In other circumstances (vapours, hazardous chemicals, environmentally harmful chemicals) you have to take all the precautions you mentioned.
I would like a report on this experience in Word format
What do you mean by chemical etching? what kind of solvent do you use?
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First I want to say thank you, this is awesome I don't know if I ever would have got to see how any of this is done.
One thing though... how can you go from "This is now called a metalagraphic specimen" expecting people to just go "ok, I understand", but then explain for a minute what inverted means? Not actually a critique just made me laugh.
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can we use the same polishing cloth for all the different polishing stages?
Absolutely not. Cloths can only go rougher, once used with higher grain size (lower grit), it can only go for that size, no longer it can't be used for lower grain size (higher grit). Since there is no way to keep samples absolutely clean form the previous stage, service time of fine cloths (>1 micron) is very short. But they can be then used for 3 microns, then for 6 microns, etc. Fairly serviced fine cloths can also be used as intermediate step to clean up the sample before introducing it to a serviceable fine cloth of the same polishing step.
@@Duke7562 so it means that after polishing with 6 microns, I would need to use a new polishing cloth to continue with the 3 microns?
@@mcmc727 Yes. You need as many cloths as polishing steps, each one for each step, never to be mixed around.
Excellent video
It has the crux of my 4 year Btech course on Metallurgy
Superb video sir. Thank you very much...
If I want to assess the structure of cement concrete, I will have to dehydrate the samples, which indicates that I am going to visualize the structure without the important hydration products such as CSH (calcium silicate hydrate) and CH (calcium hydroxide). Don't you think it does not portray a good message in the field of concrete or cement? (Nevertheless, if you search about SEM of cement- or concrete-based samples, you will come across a myriad of papers incorporating SEM testing of these products.)
Answer to "If I want to assess the structure of cement concrete, I will have to dehydrate the samples, ...": For a more detailed answer see also our SEM video comments. In metallography (or rather materialography) the problem is similar. However, here there is not the problem with the vacuum. Here it is a matter of embedding the sample appropriately and replacing all liquids with suitable solids, for example polymers, without changing the sample. A standard method in biology, simplified: replace the water with alcohol, replace the alcohol with liquid resin, cure the resin, and then prepare your microsection.
The specimen faces downwards. This has the advantage of the specimen facing downwards. Proceeds to zoom in on downwards facing specimen.
i would like to asking u about a decarburazion process.. i dont get the layer on the material after eching process.. can u post the proper step or method for decarburazation for quenching steel.. tq
It was helpful and interesting keep making videos they are great
hi sir... may i ask u 1 question.. how to get good sample cross section for pcb...
Great video!
Excellent!
Why pearlite appears as dark and ferrite appears as white?
Answer to "Why pearlite appears as dark and ferrite appears as white?": The etching method we have used is grain boundary and phase boundary etching. This etching method does not produce any colours and there is no black and white contrast. So after etching, the surface of the sample is still completely clean, metallic and shiny. The only effect created by etching is a 3D structuring of the surface: small grooves are created between grains and between different phases. Ferrite consists of one phase (ferrite itself), pearlite consists of small lamellae of two phases (ferrite and cementite). Although ferrite and cementite are silvery and shiny, the phase boundaries between them have a three-dimensional structure. Thus, a ferrite grain appears light, while a pearlite region appears rather dark, because this etching process has created many small grooves between the ferrite and cementite crystals. It is difficult to explain this without a very long explanation and the iron-carbon phase diagram.
The appearance of pearlite as dark and ferrite as white in optical microscopy is primarily due to differences in the etching response of these phases during metallographic preparation. Ferrite is a pure iron phase with a body-centered cubic (BCC) crystal structure. It has fewer defects and a relatively homogeneous structure. When etched, ferrite reacts less with the etchant, leading to a smoother surface that reflects light more uniformly. This gives ferrite its bright or white appearance under the microscope. Pearlite is a lamellar mixture of ferrite and cementite (Fe₃C). Cementite is much harder and more chemically reactive than ferrite. When etched, the etchant attacks the ferrite component more aggressively and accentuates the lamellar structure. The roughened surface scatters light, making pearlite appear dark under the microscope.
if I only have a 160x magnification microscope ...can I use it for microsrtucture analysis
Answer to "if I only have a 160x magnification microscope ...can I use it for microstructure analysis": Well, to use different magnifications is always better, but you can already do a lot with 160x, it is a good compromise. Just try it!
May I ask what etchant is suitable for the 304 stainless steel? I fail in observing the microstructure.
Answer to "May I ask what etchant is suitable for the 304 stainless steel? I fail in observing the microstructure." In this case you have to use very strong etching agents, for example a mixture of HCl, water, HNO3, and other substances, too complicated to tell here. You find it in the internet and in some books on metallography - and very important, you also find the appropriate safety instructions.
@@MaterialsScience2000 thx
please advise what program or image analyzer you use to see the actual image on the monitor
Answer to "please advise what program or image analyzer you use to see the actual image on the monitor":It is the Axiovision programme from Zeiss. There are many other programs on the market that serve the purpose in a similar manner ...
How to etch 3D printed 316 l sample ? I am etching with swab I can scratches I think those are of swab. Is it okay to deep sample in etchant
Answer to "How to etch 3D printed 316 l sample ? I am etching with swab I can scratches I think those are of swab. Is it okay to deep sample in etchant": It is generally better to prepare a good microsection and then immerse the entire microsection in the etchant, as shown in the video. Etching with a swab is also possible, but only soft and clean swabs should be used to avoid scratches.
Some new videos regarding different techniques in metallurgy must be recorded. Please.
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Can we conduct the examination of microscope without etching process? can someone explain for me?
Answer to "Can we conduct the examination of microscope without etching process? can someone explain for me?": Without etching (only grinding and polishing), you can only see the phases in the material that have a different color or light absorption in comparison with the surrounding phases, but you cannot see grain boundaries, for example. This is shown in the video.
Em, can someone tell me what is the liquid used in the final process of polishing?
Answer to "Em, can someone tell me what is the liquid used in the final process of polishing?" The diamond suspension polishing was done with 6 micrometers resp. 3 micrometers grain size diamonds in a liquid that mainly consists of water (we do not know the exact composition, a lubricant is added). The last polishing operation was done with alumina suspension (50 nm grain size) in water.
Why was a fine grinding step not necessary?
Answer to the question "Why was a fine grinding step not necessary?": All grinding steps are (normally) necessary, including the fine grinding step. The fine grinding step was not shown in the video, but only mentioned in the off-text.
just want to ask have you ever prepared thin section ung diamond paste, uncover thin section of rock specimen? thanks in advance
Where is the PPE?
superb video sir
This is really great. I'm starting my titanium sample prep in due course. I am wondering whether there is a difference in results between automatic polishing/grinding and manual polishing/grinding.
Answer to "I am wondering whether there is a difference in results between automatic polishing/grinding and manual polishing/grinding": Properly carried out, there should not be a difference. Generally, titanium samples are comparatively difficult to prepare.
Very informative 👌😊
Plz tell the precise time of etching
Answer to "Plz tell the precise time of etching": The etching time can vary greatly, from 2 seconds to several minutes, depending on the etchant and the material. In most cases, you have to try it out.
am currently working on CoCr alloy (Co-65%, Cr-30, Mo-5%) and still trying out a suitable etchant. Can you please suggest any etchant for that?
Have you already tried "aqua regia"?
+Carmo Pelliciari funny enough i just thought of trying that today. thanks
I´ve used aqua regia for etching both cast and wrought CoCrMo alloys and it worked fine.
Thank for providing information
Best clean with ultrasonic between polishing form 6 to 1 microns and to 0.1 alumina
Answer to: "Best clean with ultrasonic between polishing form 6 to 1 microns and to 0.1 alumina" Yes, ultrasonic cleaning is a good option, and we use it a lot. However, it is not always necessary, and it has to be done cautiously. Some materials may be damaged when using ultrasonic cleaning with too much intensity and for a too long time.
How do you de-mount for SEM analysis?
Thanks, that's informative
I have understood
what solution do you recommend for etching stainless?
There are quite a few etchants available for stainless steels. For austenitic steels for instance we often use a solution of HCl, HNO3 and a special pickling inhibitor (Sparbeize in German) in water. For colour etching the Beraha II etching technique leads to good results.
what is the final polishing liquid name??
Answer to "what is the final polishing liquid name??": There are several brand names on the market, but scientifically, the final polishing suspension consists of very fine (grain size 50 nm) aluminium oxide (Al2O3) particles in water.
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very nice!
In the final etching test he is not wear hand gloves..
Answer to "In the final etching test he is not wear hand gloves..": Correct, but in this case that is due to the comparatively quite mild etchant. We did this because we have a lot of experience with this etchant. But please remember to wear gloves in any case!
How can check grain flow of steel
Answer to "How can check grain flow of steel": You probably mean the plastic flow (plastic deformation) of individual grains in steels. If yes, then the plastic deformation may principally be detected by special etching techniques which show the density of dislocations inside the grains, but this is difficult. If plastic deformation is comparatively large, the plastic deformation may simply be detected by the shape of the grains (elongated).
Thank you
Well explained
which resin used for mounting of specimen
+Yashwant Patil Answer to "which resin used for mounting of specimen?" We use Technovit 2000 LC, a light curing resin which has certain advantages (easy to handle, transparency > good for the control of the sectional plane) and certain disadvantages (relatively soft, high shrinkage, danger of gaps between specimen and resin).
best video
what is the acid solution used in this exam?
There are a lot of REAGENTS! For Fe-C alloys NITAL 2% is recommended.
2:53 Which product was used?
Answer to "2:53 Which product was used?" We have used the light curing resin "Technovit 2000 LC". It has the main advantages of transparency and easy handling, but the disadvantages (i) sometimes there is a small gap between resin and the specimen and (ii) it is not very hard.
thanks a lot
I've been a metallurgist for over 40 years - 2% Nital would have been better than 10% . Also why not refer to the steels as 1054, 1080 etc.
Answer to "I've been a metallurgist for over 40 years - 2% Nital would have been better than 10% . Also why not refer to the steels as 1054, 1080 etc.": Thank you! You are right about using 2% Nital. The etching time is longer, rinsing is easier, etc.. We used 10% Nital to speed up the etching time for the video. And we used the standardised European designations for the steels, simply because we live in Europe. Unfortunately, there are no international (ISO) steel designations yet.