@@PravaRusija What? BBC - Russian media? And I thought this was the British media. Mediazona is a media outlet that is blocked in Russia, and the founders have the status of foreign agents.
Because they are not allowed to, even Ukrainians are forbidden from posting numbers and videos of Ukrainian cemeteries, although some do get published, it's horrendous, the size of some of them!
Being pro Russian my wife is Ukrainian, just do the fact west has started this mess, it’s still heartbreaking at the amount of death, I wish this end.. life is so valuable and to die for a political cause is just insane
I met a girl recently from Donetsk. (I live in Toronto) She was pro Ukraine but her entire family is pro Russian. Reality is stranger than fiction sometimes
I've spent roughly a year of my life in Ukraine since 2006. Mainly Odessa. Lots of expats there, mainly Brits and very much Russophobes. Which is curious because Odessa is very much a Russian city. Go speak with the various clerks and vendors at the markets if you can't make up your mind. Many of my friends here in the USA are taken aback when I explain my position, which is actually pro-Ukrainian soldier..at least the conscripted ones....not the brainwashed idiots sporting SS tattoos. When I explain to them we're lucky to have Putin as Russia's president they are flabbergasted because most of them still have left-over cold war impressions thinking Russia is the USSR. They find it difficult to believe that the alternative to Putin would likely be a Russian hardliner that would respond to every long-range NATO missile strike in symmetric fashion inevitably leading us the WW3. Most are rabidly anti-Russian filled with claims that Putin was to drive to the Atlantic. In the same sentence they will repeat the claim that Russia has lost a million soldiers but still are a threat to take over Europe. Back to the Ukrainian soldier. When this war is over and those soldiers go home what do they go home to? I'm here to tell you that Ukraine has been sold lock, stock and barrel to western corporations. And those Ukrainians left after the war will be lucky to make $200/month working for a western corporation. Basically the Ukrainian government has sold that which doesn't belong to them. Now this is a subject I've been following since 2006 given my agricultural background. The best explanation of what has happened was published by an outfit called The Oakland Institute. War and Theft of Ukrainian Land. Bottom line is that Stalin sent his thugs in the 1930s to steal the land and resources. Then Hitler moved in with his 'lebensraum' plan and 27 million Soviet citizens ended up dead. Then the Ukrainian suffered for another 45 years under communism. Then they suffered under the breakup of the Soviet Union. And another 25 years later another war starts once again for the land and resources. It's time to given the country back to the Ukrainians and Russians with a history there.
@@blackseabrew Kind reminder; it was Soviet Union, country founded by Belarusian, Russian and Ukrainian SSRs, that enabled Hitler's raise to power and re-armament of Germany as part of Treaty of Rapallo and then cooperated in invasion of Poland under Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. Russian and Ukrainian deslusions of grandeour and goals have *never* changed. Nor had the mindset.
There’s always an apparently accurate prediction of “unsustainable Russian losses” but Ukraine losses can’t be verified and are “far fewer losses” (of course) *rolls eyes
Ukrainian issue is not so much causalities (which is overstated by the Ru camp too) but desertions and mobilization failure. People run away as early as training centers (running away from recruitment is much harder). Because of Ukraine's shadow economy one can survive with 0 interaction with the govt, so people do that. The absolute majority don't need this f-ing war. Also, the whole things is absolutely corrupt, there's a recent story they locked in a recruitment center some thief-recidivist. The dude lock-picked the chief's office at night and took 27k euros from there, escaped through the window. The first reaction of the chief on social media is that he was collecting this for DRONES! In Euros :D (in Ukraine donation are done in local currency - Hryvna, and euro/dollar cash are mostly corruption or large purchase money, cars/houses).
Ellenskyy isn't the only one who lies about it. Oleksii Arestovych his former main staffer who the CIA is protecting here in the USA as the next possible Ukro puppet leader even said like 40k dead to Russia's 600k which is total bullshit. He even said Ukraine has some superior medical advantages to Russia having the poorest in the world. Just stupid
Between killed, crippled, wounded, deserted, captured, missing, suicide and PTSD. Ukraine at a minimum has 1.5 Million casualties. Russia has only used 20% of it's forces and is going out of its way to limit civilian deaths. They could have turned Ukraine to rubble in a week if they really took the gloves off.
@KeithMelville you're right I should listen to Times Radio jake broe Denys davydov Operator starsky and Ukrainska pravda. According to them Russia loses 10,000 men a week and has 2 million casulties
Ain't that the truth? Most "experts" keep forgetting that Russia is fighting not only Ukraine but the collective West, as well, which has delivered endless supplies of weapons and money. And do we know how many mercenaries have been killed? 5000? 7000?
What a stupid idea. Have you ever heard of Vietnam and Afghanistan? The soviet union is believed to haved killed 1-4million afghans (through famine as well) and yet who won?
Im so tired of all this BS. Russia has ten times more artelleri, a big air force ( Ukraina non) . Russia also has 100 times more rockets etc . And last much more drones. Conklusion , for every Russian killed its 9 to 10 Ukrainien. Russia 100.000 , Ukraina close to one million
The difference is, all Ukrainian artillery is directed by the US using very precise satellite surveilance. Russia doesn't have that capability so it shells whole areas.
Mediazona's method for calculating the Russian casualties is counting the officially published obituaries, then multiplying that number by a certain factor which was very cleverly determined. At some point, around a year ago, they've arbitrarily almost doubled that factor without giving a proper explanation. They've destroyed their credibility overnight.
I don´t think any estimate is that big of an influence, they literally have the names of about 80,000 from Russian proper. Prigozin said Russia proper´s losses before he died were 120,000.
@evanburgess8428 Prigozhin said a lot of things, significant part of which turned out to be elements of the pre-coup media campaign. And he had an incentive for inflating the army losses as part of said media campaign.
@@evanburgess8428 If what he saw was a shitshow then how come none of his claims were validated afterwards? Turns out there was no shell shortage, and Wagner units were getting sufficient support and supplies from the army, and Wagner storm units weren't the most effective, and Wagner's heavy losses were because of their own tactics and not because of the neighboring army units, etc etc.
@@evanburgess8428 the whole Prigozhin thing makes absolutely no sense even if we count in theories of him turning rogue, or being payed by US etc. It’s one of the big mysteries for me and I would like to see if in the future we will ever find out what really happened there.
I'd argue that the objective of denazification is not entirely going well. Unlike the last time, they made a headstart in fleeing to the west. The nazis are cheering on outside Ukraine demanding more blood, while Ukrainians are being fed by Elensky to the meat grinder. That said, the objective is getting achieved one step at a time.
3 years of continuouse mobilization indicates that the loses of Ukraine in killed is more than 1,5 million people . This is known to Ukrainians and those , who sent them to their deaths.
@@johnhume4346 I believe the same. They are very afraid of the reaction of the public opinion especially in EU. The most insane thing is that Ukraine according to their narrative did not want an agreement with Russia in the first days of this war when still the casualties were less than 2 dozens of people, because they wanted to become a NATO member and prevent Russia from waging a future war against them, but caused that war now and on top of that got 1M casualties and in the end they still won’t be a NATO member. It’s absurd at least.
@@johnhume4346 it's a war of attrition. One that Russia can withstand for longer. This is the logical conclusion no? So nobody should be shocked. There is already skepticism regarding Zelenskys 41k kia numbers
При обмене телами предыдущий раз было 42 русских и 507 украинских тела. Нет сомнений Россия 🇷🇺 забирает свои территории обратно! Моя семья с Украины и мы выбираем быть с Россией! 5,3 млн украинцев переехали в Россию! За время войны.
It was over 400,000 dead over 1.5 years ago. Satellite photos after the 400k showed another 800k-1 M more not sure how many have been filled in the rows that go on miles.
Interesting fact: every Russian city, town or village has their bilboard of honour, where they put pictures of died soldiers in SMO. So nothing is concieled. What your guest forgot to mention, or maybe he didn't know, is that the forces that bore the heaviest casulties are Donbas forces. Counting from begining of SMO (just from 2022, not from 2014) Donbas froces as millitias and later as part of Russian army took 50% of total Russian loses , and even that is unevenly distributed, forces from DPR taking about (it is not precise) 40%, and LPR 10%. Then 10% more is from other "new teritories" (Kherson, Zaporozhia and Crimea) together with international volunteers. So when you take presumed 100 k (lets hold on to that number, although it is probably not accurate), loses of Russians from pre-SMO Russia is about 40 k, so when you ditributed it to wast Russian Federation with 150 million people, it is not significant loses that would stir people, especially when ten to twenty thousands of that casualties were Wagner regruted convicts. On the other hand, people of DPR suffered almost the same number (from 2022, and there +20 k from 2014 also) and has just about 2 million people (Russian controlled part, not counting part still under Ukrainian control). If someone feels the loses and burdens of this war, than that is people from DPR. But you should not forgot the primary goal of SMO: it is to protect people of Donbas, then comes all those no NATO for Ukraine, demilitarization and denazification of of Ukraine. That is why DPR and LPR forces, and people from this two republics, was and still are the cornerstones of Russian forces in Donbas and bears on their back the burden of heaviest loses, because it is about them... P. S. And there is one more huge miscalculation of the Western countries. They expected, and still expects, internal Russian civilian unrest if war were prolongued and number of casualties went up, but that was so unfortunately miscalculated: the effect are totally opposite. Society very fast consolidate, Putin got historically biggest percent on ellections, and exactly because there is already 100 k casualties, they will not stop untill they achieve all their goals, in honour of that casualties, so that they didn't die in vain. Irony is that Putin, and every other politician from the top positions, would now probably loose compeltte suport of people if they trade even just one of the proclaimed goals for faster peace.
Lol. Don't kid yourself. Putin and his cronies are in this for their own profit. Their own benefit. If they cared about the casualties we would see an effort to lessen them. We see no such effort to improve medical evacuations etc.
we must never forget that the minerals in Ukraine s estimated to about 20 trillion dollars, so think again why did they want Ukraine to join NATO, for the US to control the minerals in Ukraine,
War is always about wealth and power, never anything else. At best you got one side defending itself against those ambition, but as soon as one comes up with that this is about freedom or demoracy or whatever, you should know they are lying.
The US could had archived those mines in many other ways, anyone with a lot of money could go Ukraine and buy whatever they wanted, there were no need for NATO to do so.
I mean artillery difference alone is like 10 to 15 to 1 in Russian favor. Drones aircraft and missile strikes are also super heavy in Russian favor. Even during WW2 the soviets didn't do as poorly as the western media is claiming for today
I'm sure they both do but Russia doesn't announce its losses but they also don't hide their losses. Ukrainian media will never announce the amount of losses but it's clear to the people getting dragged off of the street and forced onto the front lines or to the people who see that happening who try to fight to keep people they don't even know from being drugged off to war that it's heavy Ukrainian losses.
Ursula Von Der Leyen quoted a figure of 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers KIA back in 2022. This figure coincided with the numbers bloggers, journalists and commentators were coming up with. These were not pro-Ukraine people. I'm always interested when both sides of the narrative are singing the same song. About a year ago a Ukrainian state TV channel quoted 1.26 million KIA. Just like Ursula's comment this one was very quickly disappeared. The channel is called 1+1. This year in an interview a currently serving high ranking Ukrainian military man (I can't remember his name) said that Ukraine's KIA was over a million. The newspaper is Ukrainian. The interview was banned from being published in Ukraine but was published outside of Ukraine. Once the war comes to an end we will know the figures of KIA and seriously/permanently wounded. It won't take too long to get these numbers. One thing any western leader can do to shock the western world into questioning our support for the war is to tell us the numbers. If Trump emphatically pushes the number he believes to be true the world will listen. Lindsay Graham and many others have made the point that America's MIC is doing very well from the war. It needs to increase production and this means jobs for Americans. How many dead Ukrainian soldiers does it take to provide one American job? Ten? A hundred? A thousand? Can you imagine working on a production line and knowing your job cost 50 Ukrainian soldiers killed and 150 permanently disabled?
Regarding your comment about peak Russian casualties in Feb/ .Mar. 2022 needs elaboration. Firstly, Putin/the Kremlin assumed the Ukrainian army would cease resistance and the Kiev regime would fall once it was clear Russia had taken substantial territory ( probably Putins greatest miscalculation). They also had very stringent rules of engagement that exposed them to greater losses eg; limited air and artillery use, no occupation of private property ( for cover). to minimise civilian casualties and anti Russian sentiment. After March/ April , once their mistake was realised and Ukraine walked away from the Istanbul negotiations .... the "gloves came off" and it became a war of attrition by the Kremlin.
I think the fall of the ukrainian regime was not expected as you say. Russia was around 40km away from Tbilisi in 2008 and didn't move further. I think in Ukraine the plan was, that they'll be at least as reasonable as pro-NATO, anit russian Georgian officials in 2008. Georgia didn't proceed to fight in 2008 and you can see that long-term (is 16 years log-term enough?) they now turn away from EU and NATO. The miscalculation was not the fall but rationality and reason of Ukrainian officials.
Only 31,000 KIA. The dictator of the Ukraine never lies WHO is fooling WHO, to force 18-year-olds to go to the meat grinder shows how bad Ukraine is losing
@HNH421 You just called a person Russian because he maybe lied, are you a Nazi by any chance? There are countless videos of VERY young soldiers captured, most likely conscripts of the Ukranian army, but there are, I remember a video from about a year ago when 2 captured soldiers were being release, one said he is 17, the other something around 20, can't be sure...
@@Lomnjac007 you can enlist at 18 you can not be mobilised - that is the truth - this dragging old lady from bus stops, and strapping them to FPV drones, to drop on Moscow, is the sort of russian lie I'm referring to.
That "history" that you are referring to was written by the same people who are inflating Russian losses now, with the same motive. For example, in WW2, USSR lost 6.8 million soldiers + 4 million as POW. Germany lost their entire 23+ million army (at least 12 million KIA), which is why they lost WW2. Now compare these real figures to what's in Wikipedia.
They don't seem to have learned that tanks are no good against drones, though you are right in a way coz they are testing scooters and golf carts on the frontline. The result however, have not been good so far.
As the aphorism goes, "truth is the first casualty in all wars". It seems to me that humanity has been at war for a very, very, very long time already.
Drones have likely played the biggest change to this modern battlefield. Disrupting logistic efforts, fire direction air and arty, finding the weak points in defensive lines, and then precise destruction of strong points by themselves. Increasing the effectiveness of all the combat arms in an arsenal.
Ukraine is also on the receiving end of the TOS 1A Solnsepyok , a multiple launch rocket system that delivers vacuum bombs. A truly horrifying and devastating weapons system.
In the Nixon era of the Vietnam war, the calculation was that when an American family knew of two other families that had lost somebody in Vietnam, the war was untenible. They had calculated that number, this became a horizontal line on the graph. They updated the rising number of fatalities daily, this became the rising line on the graph. They knew the date at which these lines crossed, the war would become a complete poitical nightmare. This spured them on to get a peace agreement.
The casualties are easy to calculate, Math`s don`t lie. Ukraine had 1 million man army when this started they had several waves of mobilization/Kidnapping of about 1 million people now they are running out soldiers and their units are all undermanned, so they have lost at least 1 million soldiers at a minimum.
8-10 ten times artillery advantage in a war of attrition, plus a fairly high air superiority, means Ukraine’s losses are 7-10 times Russian. Interesting that in 2024 the total number of bodies exchanged were 8.5:1 Ukrainian fatalities
The moment the first question was asked, his nose got way too itchy... Not saying he's lying or feeling uneasy, it's probably just me thinking things...
The Russian army has learned to fight on the modern battlefield and keep their causalities down. They send out small units to identify strong points, and call in artillery, drones, and air power. The Russians have complets air superority, so Ukrainians are suffering very high causalities. And abandon their positions first chance they get, often deserting. The genius of the Russians is they usually keep an escape corridor open for Ukrainians to flee through, though those corridors can be deadly for the retreating Ukrainians.
These escape corridors have one more flaw, when the Russians approach somebody there that is not one of their guys then they try to communicate with them, but they speak Russian and/or Ukrainian to them, that in an attempt to tell them how to surrender, but bloody hell if the person(s) do not understand Russian or Ukrainian, then these persons panics and well...end of that story, too many have lost on that account.
The civilian part is especially disgusting. Western wars 'shine' with very high civilian casualties - while bragging about how precise the weaponry is.
First, really should've put your dad's name SOMEWHERE on here. Everytime he foreshadowed, I'd blurted the reason he immediately said right after. Absolutely PERFECT. Now, the Russians are keeping the Ukrainians preoccupied with drones while they're approaching in...
On 1 January there were a minimum of 986K Ukrainians dead and a maximum of 124K Russians. The math allow for the Ukrainian number to easily be double and the Russians half. I just copied this from a professional counter in Russia dedicated to this cause.
Ukraine has been through 3 armies fighting Russia. They've had 3 major mobilisations and been constantly grabbing dudes off the streets. They can't even rotate troops, I've read plenty interviews of Ukrainian soldiers that said they've been fighting non stop since the beginning. I think total casualties by now are well over a milli
The defense-offense casualty ratio logic works only on tactical level, even when all things are equal. On operational level, once the offense is successful, the ratio gets reversed.
Reality is much harsher. Modern artillery, drones, and precise missle stikes take a much higher toll than the old artillery. My count estimates about 1.5-1.6 million casualities for Ukraine and about 130-165k for Russia. So, the ratio is about 1:10 - 1:11 in Russian favour.
Ukraine has lost over a million in uniform,many of them non Ukrainian NATO troops .Russia reports about 80,000 Russian dead ,but its unclear whether that includes Chechens and Donetsk militias . NATOs Rutte says Russia produces as much ammunition and weapons every 3 months as NATO produces annually
I think your number is a little bit low they had around 3.5 million men eligible to be mobilized with a military that had 500,000 they upped that number to around 1.5 and had to start mobilizing again because they had deficits of 500,000 at least three times that I can remember. I honestly think the number is closer to 1.3 to 1.5 million. I might be wrong but if they had 3.5 million people to be drafted and maybe a million fled at the beginning of the war why do they need to draft 18 year old kids?
Generally one million Ukes, 100,000 Russians based on Mediazona and other factors such as mobilisations, ground lost, constantly increasing Russian gains, etc
Russia has excellent first aid, forward triage and close surgical facilities to reduce death. Ukraine abandons their wounded. but the commanders keep them on the rolls to pocket their salaries. So many Ukrainian families seek information on the loved ones whom then haven't heard from in many cases for over a year.
Have you seen the video fotage of thick forrests of ukranian flags covering every meter or so of the freshly added areas of cemetries? Those videos were posted fairly frequently since the beginning of Russia joining the conflict. Some time later those videos stopped comming and info leaked that ukranian govt file d a decree against filming the cemetries (+ militarily valuable objects + rocket/drone hitting the targets). Since those vids came during the phase of the war which every wannabe -"expert" calls "Russia is getting kicked badly" I wouldn't even imagine how the cemetries would look like nowadays...
>normally offense suffers more casualties You'll have a hard time finding a single one offensive operation like that. It's just not true, it all stems from completely misunderstanding the 3:1 ratio (it is not a rule even, it's an advice that says, that to conduct a succesful offensive operation, the side on the offensive has to have a 3:1 advantage, but that's baseline balance of power which factors in many things like indirect fire support; there are things that are hard to quantify, like better comunications, which can also play a decisive role. It says *absolutely nothing* about casualties). Also: completely missing the point later on. There are times when you're forced into attacking positions head-on, but even regardless of that it's the attacking side that's choosing when and where to fight, preparing the field with maneuver (shaping operations) and fire (artillery and air bombardment to destoy or suppress). In context of this war, where russians have a massive firepower advantage - this (russians suffering heavier casualties) makes no sense at all.
And that 3:1 ratio means that you should have 3 forces when a attacking. One giving suppressing fire while another do a flanking manoever and the third is just a force that occupy those defensive lines that is occupied after attack to relieve those attacking forces that are exhausted and out of ammo. As I undestand it at least.
War is the continuation of peace with other means, and peace is just the continuation of war. They cause themselves reciprocally, one is not possible without the other.
If anybody really wanted to know, we would know. These people were surveilling all of our cell phone traffic during the pandemic to see where we were and what we were doing. There are an awful lot of cell phones, not moving around anymore in Ukraine. A simple satellite image or drone view of the other expanding Ukraine cemeteries would show the massive number of the burials
I´m not sure if this is true but to my understanding and according to satelite photos 2 cemetaries in Kharkov area expanded with about 30 000 graves in total just in september last year.
I don’t think the US have been very honest with their casualty numbers since Vietnam and especially not with the shocking term they use, “collateral”. This dehumanises the men, woman and children dead and makes them less noticeable, less significant! 🏴
Death: 1.2 million Wounded: 2.7 million Only 1 mobilization in Russia (all reservists) in September 2022, mostly for military logistics, supply, and maintenance. 14 mobilizations in Ukraine (sometimes by force), and now they debates drafting 18 year olds...
How many Russians of mobilisation age have fled Russia? If Russia is happy and secure with its army manpower why is it relying on North Koreans, convicts and huge bribes to recruit personnel?
@@KeithMelville "How many Russians of mobilisation age have fled Russia?" I had heard it should be about 100000, more than 50% had returned. Not really numbers that have any impact on anything, many that flee were not even suitable for army service anyway. "If Russia is happy and secure with its army manpower why is it relying on North Koreans, convicts and huge bribes to recruit personnel?" It is not relying on North Koreans, Russia is using about 15-20% of it's armed forces so there is still plenty to take from. It is true that some convicts did fight in the Wagner forces, how many idk, but it is not any huge number. Isn't it fair to pay a decent salary to a person when you want him to risk his life? I am afraid that you do not understand how this salary is constructed and the deeper contains of a Russian army contract.
@@KeithMelville 1. I don't know. Many came back. In 2022 Russian citizens submitted 15,115 applications for residence permits in the EU. That's low for a country with a population of 145M. 2. There is no North Koreans in Ukraine. This is ridiculous propaganda. Supposedly 50,000 NK soldiers... but they are nowhere to be seen. So, are they ghosts or not there? 3. A prisoner is expensive ($$$) and brings nothing to the country. So why not give him the same amount ($$$) in exchange for a year in the army and his freedom?
On foreign dating websites I've told Ukrainian women their country has lost over a million soldiers and 50,000-100,000 foreign fighters from about a dozen other countries. They don't really argue with me about it.
Apparently Ukraine has lost around 1.1 Million Solders and Russia around 100 thousand , And Watching the Videos and War mapping this is correct , Now Ukraines losses are much much higher due to their failed Invasions into Russia so this 1.1 Million will soon be 1.5 Million, this is WW1 Figures 🙏😔
Larry t-shirt Johnson former cia , say Ukrainien losses killed 1,600,000 . Wounded X3 . Leave country one way ticket over 15 million , NATO finish Ukraine....
If Russia lost 100,000 dead, then the Ukraine had lost at least 300,000 for sure. The tragedy of the war is coming to an end apparently at least I hope this year.
This video says one thing. The next 6 videos in the algorithm say that Russia is on the verge of collapse. 600,000 Russian casualties is what the other videos claim. So, what is the truth?
No skin in the game here but it's clear that Russia is advancing whilst Ukraine is retreating. There are an awful lot of fantasists in the West who believe plucky little Ukraine might still win. Not a chance.
@@jona826 Ukraine could win if they had the FULL support of NATO. But they do not. Whatever support they get trickles in, making it clear that NATO cares more about funneling money to the oligarchs owning the military-financial-industrial complex than winning. And more so this war proves that Russia and the west have become second tier nations. China decides who will win (if they care to) since they are the ones with any real industry these days. So even if Russia "wins" they only win the position of being China's DDR. This whole war is idiocy which never should have happened. It is against the interests of people in NATO and Russia and only serves to enrich our masters on either side.
If Ukraine were not under the NATO umbrella, the public would have little to no information about the casualty figures. However, we can estimate the level of Russian casualties. The attrition rate is between 2 to 10 in favor of Russia, based on the strength and capacity for attrition in this war. Currently, this represents Ukraine's third army, in addition to the first one, which numbers around 1.1 million troops.
When we see towns Russia has taken, it is fields of brocken bricks and concrete. What is happened to "defenders" in hese places? Russian soldiers have to check for what left over in these towns. Sometimes they get in to fight, sometimes not. Everybody have drones, we see mostly drones attacking. Everything else is not filmed...
Only question should remain who, how many, will be tried and sentenced to this Holocausts. Zelensky should be defenatly No. I. Then from Western countries.'
From the donbass militia, to wagner volunteers and inmates as well as kadyrov forces, foreigners and supposed korean gmo soldiers, the casualties of russian army contractors is likely quite low.
It took them more than a month to supposedly captured 2 koreans, and they claimed there are tens of thousands of them in kursk. Pro-ukrianians dont know that their claims can be looked at with a microscope and they shatter.-
You are very wrong.. the casualties are in 5 to 1 in favour of the Ukrainians. Ukraine are trading little russian advanced land to big russian casualties. Russian doesn't matter losses in contrary for the Ukraine, as they don't have so many human resources,they are being intelligent. It is estimated 800.000 Russians versus 160.000 Ukrainians.
it all works differently , defense is softened and hurt, sometimes completely overpowered. Besides, rested units attack tired and exhausted by stress losses and bombardment.
Why doesn't Media zona do the same thing for Ukrainian casualties? Why only Russian. If Russia lost 100,000 troops but you don't know what Ukraine lost how can you even put those Russian figures in context? If Russia lost 100,000 troops but Ukraine only lost 30,000 that would make Ukraine look like they were winning. But if Ukraine lost 300,000 while Russia lost 100,000 then it's a completely different story. You need numbers on both sides, otherwise no one can say how bad the situation is.
Mediazona isnt that reliable. They are better than others, but at one point, they didnt like the numbers they got, and started to create numbers based on their wishes.
The media is, when it comes to this Russia/Ukraine conflict, just a propaganda tool for whomever support/sponsor that particularity media. Talk bad about the opposite side, truth or lie, it doesn't matter, and praise 'our' side to above the clouds, truth or lie, it doesn't matter. The goal is to make our side feel that "we are winning", and when the opposite side read/watch our 'truth' then they should feel that they are loosing, you know lower their morale. The more a media is dependent on financial aid, the less credible is its coverage of events their sponsors have an opinion about. In my native, free and democratic EU country all internal medias that matters are heavily depending on state support one way or an other, and if a media piss in the wrong direction then their state sponsorship is withdrawn next time the government rethink the "media support act", guess how trustworthy their covering is just on that account. It is very few medias in this world that are financial strong enough to be fully free and independent, and even then they still have an owner that can have strong points of view in whatever direction, so really free and independent medias do not exist, just choose your favorite.
Ukraine had 14 mobilisation so far and 15th ongoing. It tells you everything about Ukrainian casualties. Russia 🇷🇺 had only one .
a partial one at that
They stop with that. Now they just pay good money. And volunteers line up.
Bullshit.
And Russia's 2nd mobilisation happening now is mostly a "push the entire front to Kiev" deal.
@@yaelz6043 there is no mobilisation in Russia right now.
But ask yourself: why doesn’t the media zone and the BBC do such an analysis for the Ukrainian side?
Because are Russian media. In Ukraine, UAlosses is the project that does the same thing.
@@PravaRusija
What?
BBC - Russian media? And I thought this was the British media.
Mediazona is a media outlet that is blocked in Russia, and the founders have the status of foreign agents.
@@PravaRusija Media Zona is Russian? lolz
@@PravaRusija lol u dont know what u talking about
Because they are not allowed to, even Ukrainians are forbidden from posting numbers and videos of Ukrainian cemeteries, although some do get published, it's horrendous, the size of some of them!
Being pro Russian my wife is Ukrainian, just do the fact west has started this mess, it’s still heartbreaking at the amount of death, I wish this end.. life is so valuable and to die for a political cause is just insane
I met a girl recently from Donetsk. (I live in Toronto) She was pro Ukraine but her entire family is pro Russian. Reality is stranger than fiction sometimes
I've spent roughly a year of my life in Ukraine since 2006. Mainly Odessa. Lots of expats there, mainly Brits and very much Russophobes. Which is curious because Odessa is very much a Russian city. Go speak with the various clerks and vendors at the markets if you can't make up your mind.
Many of my friends here in the USA are taken aback when I explain my position, which is actually pro-Ukrainian soldier..at least the conscripted ones....not the brainwashed idiots sporting SS tattoos. When I explain to them we're lucky to have Putin as Russia's president they are flabbergasted because most of them still have left-over cold war impressions thinking Russia is the USSR. They find it difficult to believe that the alternative to Putin would likely be a Russian hardliner that would respond to every long-range NATO missile strike in symmetric fashion inevitably leading us the WW3. Most are rabidly anti-Russian filled with claims that Putin was to drive to the Atlantic. In the same sentence they will repeat the claim that Russia has lost a million soldiers but still are a threat to take over Europe.
Back to the Ukrainian soldier. When this war is over and those soldiers go home what do they go home to? I'm here to tell you that Ukraine has been sold lock, stock and barrel to western corporations. And those Ukrainians left after the war will be lucky to make $200/month working for a western corporation. Basically the Ukrainian government has sold that which doesn't belong to them. Now this is a subject I've been following since 2006 given my agricultural background. The best explanation of what has happened was published by an outfit called The Oakland Institute. War and Theft of Ukrainian Land.
Bottom line is that Stalin sent his thugs in the 1930s to steal the land and resources. Then Hitler moved in with his 'lebensraum' plan and 27 million Soviet citizens ended up dead. Then the Ukrainian suffered for another 45 years under communism. Then they suffered under the breakup of the Soviet Union. And another 25 years later another war starts once again for the land and resources. It's time to given the country back to the Ukrainians and Russians with a history there.
@@blackseabrew Kind reminder; it was Soviet Union, country founded by Belarusian, Russian and Ukrainian SSRs, that enabled Hitler's raise to power and re-armament of Germany as part of Treaty of Rapallo and then cooperated in invasion of Poland under Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. Russian and Ukrainian deslusions of grandeour and goals have *never* changed. Nor had the mindset.
@@blackseabrew sadly, most Ukrainian males don’t understand that they aren’t fighting for their lands.
@@piotrd.4850 The USSR was ruled by a Georgian, not a Russian, Ukrainian or anything else.
You can post Russian losses but not Ukrainian losses. It will be deleted immediately.😊
So this video has been deleted? Nah...
There’s always an apparently accurate prediction of “unsustainable Russian losses” but Ukraine losses can’t be verified and are “far fewer losses” (of course) *rolls eyes
@@evanburgess8428 you're a gringo at you tube.
1,100,000 + 🇺🇦💀
@@evanburgess8428 no but the algorithm takes care of these comments across the platform
Big are the grave yards behind Blinken and Boris...
Much much bigger are the ones behind Putin, and his friend Bashir Assad
Only 31,000 KIA. The dictator of the Ukraine never lies.😊
Never trust a man who wears 👠👠
Lmao ..they lost more than that in The summer offensive last year .
Ukrainian issue is not so much causalities (which is overstated by the Ru camp too) but desertions and mobilization failure. People run away as early as training centers (running away from recruitment is much harder). Because of Ukraine's shadow economy one can survive with 0 interaction with the govt, so people do that. The absolute majority don't need this f-ing war. Also, the whole things is absolutely corrupt, there's a recent story they locked in a recruitment center some thief-recidivist. The dude lock-picked the chief's office at night and took 27k euros from there, escaped through the window. The first reaction of the chief on social media is that he was collecting this for DRONES! In Euros :D (in Ukraine donation are done in local currency - Hryvna, and euro/dollar cash are mostly corruption or large purchase money, cars/houses).
Ellenskyy isn't the only one who lies about it. Oleksii Arestovych his former main staffer who the CIA is protecting here in the USA as the next possible Ukro puppet leader even said like 40k dead to Russia's 600k which is total bullshit. He even said Ukraine has some superior medical advantages to Russia having the poorest in the world. Just stupid
@@antonlevkovsky1667the awol/pows/mia's tally is not included in the 1.1 million casualty figures.
Between killed, crippled, wounded, deserted, captured, missing, suicide and PTSD. Ukraine at a minimum has 1.5 Million casualties. Russia has only used 20% of it's forces and is going out of its way to limit civilian deaths. They could have turned Ukraine to rubble in a week if they really took the gloves off.
You have been listening to Douglas MacGregor whose every prediction on this war has proved wrong. Broaden your sources
@KeithMelville you're right I should listen to Times Radio jake broe Denys davydov Operator starsky and Ukrainska pravda. According to them Russia loses 10,000 men a week and has 2 million casulties
I calculated it even to be a bit higher. Around 2 million.
@@PropagandasaurusRex Tell us about how you got the figures to calculate on? How did you get them, how did you verify them?
Lol.
Russia want to win this war and have done everything they can to do so.
The idea that they are only half trying is just completely stupid.
Thinking Ukraine could defeat Russia, would be like thinking Mexico could defeat all of NATO.
The Taliban did it. NATO is a paper tiger.
Ain't that the truth? Most "experts" keep forgetting that Russia is fighting not only Ukraine but the collective West, as well, which has delivered endless supplies of weapons and money. And do we know how many mercenaries have been killed? 5000? 7000?
What a stupid idea. Have you ever heard of Vietnam and Afghanistan? The soviet union is believed to haved killed 1-4million afghans (through famine as well) and yet who won?
they thought sanctions would cause regime change in Russia, they fucked up and the Ukrainian lemmings pay the price!
Mexico can defeat all nato
Im so tired of all this BS.
Russia has ten times more artelleri, a big air force ( Ukraina non) . Russia also has 100 times more rockets etc . And last much more drones. Conklusion , for every Russian killed its 9 to 10 Ukrainien. Russia 100.000 , Ukraina close to one million
Ukraine is WELL over a million
Ukraine is closed to 1.2M.
More likely more than 1.5 ml dead ukrainan
No
The difference is, all Ukrainian artillery is directed by the US using very precise satellite surveilance. Russia doesn't have that capability so it shells whole areas.
Mediazona's method for calculating the Russian casualties is counting the officially published obituaries, then multiplying that number by a certain factor which was very cleverly determined. At some point, around a year ago, they've arbitrarily almost doubled that factor without giving a proper explanation. They've destroyed their credibility overnight.
I don´t think any estimate is that big of an influence, they literally have the names of about 80,000 from Russian proper. Prigozin said Russia proper´s losses before he died were 120,000.
@evanburgess8428 Prigozhin said a lot of things, significant part of which turned out to be elements of the pre-coup media campaign. And he had an incentive for inflating the army losses as part of said media campaign.
@@ПостороннимВ-й2ю Or maybe he wanted to have a coup because what he saw was a shit show.
@@evanburgess8428 If what he saw was a shitshow then how come none of his claims were validated afterwards? Turns out there was no shell shortage, and Wagner units were getting sufficient support and supplies from the army, and Wagner storm units weren't the most effective, and Wagner's heavy losses were because of their own tactics and not because of the neighboring army units, etc etc.
@@evanburgess8428 the whole Prigozhin thing makes absolutely no sense even if we count in theories of him turning rogue, or being payed by US etc. It’s one of the big mysteries for me and I would like to see if in the future we will ever find out what really happened there.
The special millitary operation set out to denazify Ukraine. This goal is going well by any measure.
What measures and if the goal is being achieved why is Ukraine doing such a good job at repulsing the de Nazi-fiers. Realism please
Absolutely true
I'd argue that the objective of denazification is not entirely going well. Unlike the last time, they made a headstart in fleeing to the west. The nazis are cheering on outside Ukraine demanding more blood, while Ukrainians are being fed by Elensky to the meat grinder.
That said, the objective is getting achieved one step at a time.
Just remember that with heavy weapons many of the people are just vaporized so they are never found.
Only jdam bombs and thermobaric wepons
Thermobaric bombs especially
But they're still on the payroll 😂😂😂
@geoffworley5275 you bet they are.
But their family may still be missing them, and they may even try hard to search to find them.
People would lose their minds if they knew how many casualties Ukraine has suffered.
Is it really that deep
3 years of continuouse mobilization indicates that the loses of Ukraine in killed is more than 1,5 million people . This is known to Ukrainians and those , who sent them to their deaths.
@kareemdurrant139 Oh, the people who are responsible for this won't give it a second thought. I think the public will be shocked
@@johnhume4346 I believe the same. They are very afraid of the reaction of the public opinion especially in EU. The most insane thing is that Ukraine according to their narrative did not want an agreement with Russia in the first days of this war when still the casualties were less than 2 dozens of people, because they wanted to become a NATO member and prevent Russia from waging a future war against them, but caused that war now and on top of that got 1M casualties and in the end they still won’t be a NATO member. It’s absurd at least.
@@johnhume4346 it's a war of attrition. One that Russia can withstand for longer. This is the logical conclusion no? So nobody should be shocked. There is already skepticism regarding Zelenskys 41k kia numbers
При обмене телами предыдущий раз было 42 русских и 507 украинских тела.
Нет сомнений Россия 🇷🇺 забирает свои территории обратно!
Моя семья с Украины и мы выбираем быть с Россией! 5,3 млн украинцев переехали в Россию! За время войны.
Unconditional Surrender awaits Ukraine 😮😮😮😮
Donald Trump will have NO voice.
Latest official report of Ukrainian casualties : 1,000,180
Casualties, meaning dead and wounded?
@@galinagala8260 I think they got over 500k abituaries last November.
@@vgstb More than likely KIA only. With 14 mobilizations so far....one can only guess the true figures.
It was over 400,000 dead over 1.5 years ago. Satellite photos after the 400k showed another 800k-1 M more not sure how many have been filled in the rows that go on miles.
@@TonyL-gw4qxYup, Ukrainian casualties is near 1 million, Russians 100,000-150,000, by many INDEPENDENT sources.
Interesting fact: every Russian city, town or village has their bilboard of honour, where they put pictures of died soldiers in SMO. So nothing is concieled. What your guest forgot to mention, or maybe he didn't know, is that the forces that bore the heaviest casulties are Donbas forces. Counting from begining of SMO (just from 2022, not from 2014) Donbas froces as millitias and later as part of Russian army took 50% of total Russian loses , and even that is unevenly distributed, forces from DPR taking about (it is not precise) 40%, and LPR 10%. Then 10% more is from other "new teritories" (Kherson, Zaporozhia and Crimea) together with international volunteers.
So when you take presumed 100 k (lets hold on to that number, although it is probably not accurate), loses of Russians from pre-SMO Russia is about 40 k, so when you ditributed it to wast Russian Federation with 150 million people, it is not significant loses that would stir people, especially when ten to twenty thousands of that casualties were Wagner regruted convicts. On the other hand, people of DPR suffered almost the same number (from 2022, and there +20 k from 2014 also) and has just about 2 million people (Russian controlled part, not counting part still under Ukrainian control). If someone feels the loses and burdens of this war, than that is people from DPR. But you should not forgot the primary goal of SMO: it is to protect people of Donbas, then comes all those no NATO for Ukraine, demilitarization and denazification of of Ukraine. That is why DPR and LPR forces, and people from this two republics, was and still are the cornerstones of Russian forces in Donbas and bears on their back the burden of heaviest loses, because it is about them...
P. S. And there is one more huge miscalculation of the Western countries. They expected, and still expects, internal Russian civilian unrest if war were prolongued and number of casualties went up, but that was so unfortunately miscalculated: the effect are totally opposite. Society very fast consolidate, Putin got historically biggest percent on ellections, and exactly because there is already 100 k casualties, they will not stop untill they achieve all their goals, in honour of that casualties, so that they didn't die in vain. Irony is that Putin, and every other politician from the top positions, would now probably loose compeltte suport of people if they trade even just one of the proclaimed goals for faster peace.
Thanks!
Lol. Don't kid yourself. Putin and his cronies are in this for their own profit. Their own benefit. If they cared about the casualties we would see an effort to lessen them. We see no such effort to improve medical evacuations etc.
Soldier is pretty much a sacred job in Russia after the 20th century and the genocide against them by western fascism.
we must never forget that the minerals in Ukraine s estimated to about 20 trillion dollars, so think again why did they want Ukraine to join NATO, for the US to control the minerals in Ukraine,
War is always about wealth and power, never anything else. At best you got one side defending itself against those ambition, but as soon as one comes up with that this is about freedom or demoracy or whatever, you should know they are lying.
The US could had archived those mines in many other ways, anyone with a lot of money could go Ukraine and buy whatever they wanted, there were no need for NATO to do so.
Do both lie? Yes, but who is closer to the truth numbers wise. My guess is Russia is closer to the truth than Ukraine.
Why do you assume Russia lies? Their stats probably just lag behind reality. Entirely reasonable, you don't count MIA as KIA.
I mean... Russian claims are always scrutinized.. ukranian brain farts are taken as gospels..
I mean artillery difference alone is like 10 to 15 to 1 in Russian favor. Drones aircraft and missile strikes are also super heavy in Russian favor. Even during WW2 the soviets didn't do as poorly as the western media is claiming for today
I'm sure they both do but Russia doesn't announce its losses but they also don't hide their losses. Ukrainian media will never announce the amount of losses but it's clear to the people getting dragged off of the street and forced onto the front lines or to the people who see that happening who try to fight to keep people they don't even know from being drugged off to war that it's heavy Ukrainian losses.
Yes I think so too. My reasoning is that they don't need to lie. The war is going very much Russia's way.
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These two gentlemen didn’t get the memo that Ukraine is supposed to be winning.
Ursula Von Der Leyen quoted a figure of 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers KIA back in 2022. This figure coincided with the numbers bloggers, journalists and commentators were coming up with. These were not pro-Ukraine people. I'm always interested when both sides of the narrative are singing the same song.
About a year ago a Ukrainian state TV channel quoted 1.26 million KIA. Just like Ursula's comment this one was very quickly disappeared.
The channel is called 1+1.
This year in an interview a currently serving high ranking Ukrainian military man (I can't remember his name) said that Ukraine's KIA was over a million. The newspaper is Ukrainian. The interview was banned from being published in Ukraine but was published outside of Ukraine.
Once the war comes to an end we will know the figures of KIA and seriously/permanently wounded. It won't take too long to get these numbers.
One thing any western leader can do to shock the western world into questioning our support for the war is to tell us the numbers. If Trump emphatically pushes the number he believes to be true the world will listen.
Lindsay Graham and many others have made the point that America's MIC is doing very well from the war. It needs to increase production and this means jobs for Americans. How many dead Ukrainian soldiers does it take to provide one American job?
Ten? A hundred? A thousand?
Can you imagine working on a production line and knowing your job cost 50 Ukrainian soldiers killed and 150 permanently disabled?
Regarding your comment about peak Russian casualties in Feb/ .Mar. 2022 needs elaboration. Firstly, Putin/the Kremlin assumed the Ukrainian army would cease resistance and the Kiev
regime would fall once it was clear Russia had taken substantial territory ( probably Putins greatest miscalculation). They also had very stringent rules of engagement that exposed them
to greater losses eg; limited air and artillery use, no occupation of private property ( for cover). to minimise civilian casualties and anti Russian sentiment.
After March/ April , once their mistake was realised and Ukraine walked away from the Istanbul negotiations .... the "gloves came off" and it became a war of attrition by the Kremlin.
I think the fall of the ukrainian regime was not expected as you say. Russia was around 40km away from Tbilisi in 2008 and didn't move further. I think in Ukraine the plan was, that they'll be at least as reasonable as pro-NATO, anit russian Georgian officials in 2008. Georgia didn't proceed to fight in 2008 and you can see that long-term (is 16 years log-term enough?) they now turn away from EU and NATO.
The miscalculation was not the fall but rationality and reason of Ukrainian officials.
Only 31,000 KIA. The dictator of the Ukraine never lies WHO is fooling WHO, to force 18-year-olds to go to the meat grinder shows how bad Ukraine is losing
UA Losses program recorded 68k confirmed deaths.
yes but 18-year-olds are not being drafted - so you have just done a lie - are you a ruzzion by any chance ?
@HNH421 You just called a person Russian because he maybe lied, are you a Nazi by any chance?
There are countless videos of VERY young soldiers captured, most likely conscripts of the Ukranian army, but there are, I remember a video from about a year ago when 2 captured soldiers were being release, one said he is 17, the other something around 20, can't be sure...
@@Lomnjac007 you can enlist at 18 you can not be mobilised - that is the truth - this dragging old lady from bus stops, and strapping them to FPV drones, to drop on Moscow, is the sort of russian lie I'm referring to.
Historically. Initially, the Russian performance in war is very poor, but they are fast learners..
That "history" that you are referring to was written by the same people who are inflating Russian losses now, with the same motive.
For example, in WW2, USSR lost 6.8 million soldiers + 4 million as POW.
Germany lost their entire 23+ million army (at least 12 million KIA), which is why they lost WW2.
Now compare these real figures to what's in Wikipedia.
To be fair, that's most countries. The US did extremely badly when it entered WWII (e.g. Battle of Kasserine Pass).
@@jona826they also did poorly against a 1950 peasant army from China in the Korean War that only fought with what they could carry - on foot.
They don't seem to have learned that tanks are no good against drones, though you are right in a way coz they are testing scooters and golf carts on the frontline. The result however, have not been good so far.
"The Russians are slow to saddle up, but ride fast once they do." - Bismarck.
One is too many. This brother war should never have happened.
It's just sad that fights between brothers can be the most cruel.
The Russian TOS flamethrower systems are horrifying.
As the aphorism goes, "truth is the first casualty in all wars". It seems to me that humanity has been at war for a very, very, very long time already.
War need a lie to get started ...
Drones have likely played the biggest change to this modern battlefield. Disrupting logistic efforts, fire direction air and arty, finding the weak points in defensive lines, and then precise destruction of strong points by themselves.
Increasing the effectiveness of all the combat arms in an arsenal.
Ukraine is also on the receiving end of the TOS 1A Solnsepyok , a multiple launch rocket system that delivers vacuum bombs. A truly horrifying and devastating weapons system.
In the Nixon era of the Vietnam war, the calculation was that when an American family knew of two other families that had lost somebody in Vietnam, the war was untenible. They had calculated that number, this became a horizontal line on the graph. They updated the rising number of fatalities daily, this became the rising line on the graph. They knew the date at which these lines crossed, the war would become a complete poitical nightmare. This spured them on to get a peace agreement.
Peace agreement, the Americans ran with their tails between their legs, there was/is no peace agreement, good grief.
And we only lost 58,000 dead .. Ukraine has lost over 10x that number with much smaller population!
Very interesting, Warwick. Thanks.
Interesting. The Americans were broken psychologically by the Vietnamese
@@zzbudzz Of course way more died on the US side, simply not US americans.
The casualties are easy to calculate, Math`s don`t lie. Ukraine had 1 million man army when this started they had several waves of mobilization/Kidnapping of about 1 million people now they are running out soldiers and their units are all undermanned, so they have lost at least 1 million soldiers at a minimum.
8-10 ten times artillery advantage in a war of attrition, plus a fairly high air superiority, means Ukraine’s losses are 7-10 times Russian. Interesting that in 2024 the total number of bodies exchanged were 8.5:1 Ukrainian fatalities
Great channel. It's rare to hear the truth these days. No propaganda, objective discussion.👍
The moment the first question was asked, his nose got way too itchy... Not saying he's lying or feeling uneasy, it's probably just me thinking things...
Ukraine was publishing casualties in war but stopped just over 400,000 1.5 years ago.
The Russian army has learned to fight on the modern battlefield and keep their causalities down. They send out small units to identify strong points, and call in artillery, drones, and air power. The Russians have complets air superority, so Ukrainians are suffering very high causalities. And abandon their positions first chance they get, often deserting. The genius of the Russians is they usually keep an escape corridor open for Ukrainians to flee through, though those corridors can be deadly for the retreating Ukrainians.
The Russian were masters on the field!! Only you let the propaganda tell you it wasnt!! Owow
These escape corridors have one more flaw, when the Russians approach somebody there that is not one of their guys then they try to communicate with them, but they speak Russian and/or Ukrainian to them, that in an attempt to tell them how to surrender, but bloody hell if the person(s) do not understand Russian or Ukrainian, then these persons panics and well...end of that story, too many have lost on that account.
Note: In the Gulf war the K/D was around 200 to 1, or around 800 to 1 if we add civilians.
The civilian part is especially disgusting. Western wars 'shine' with very high civilian casualties - while bragging about how precise the weaponry is.
First, really should've put your dad's name SOMEWHERE on here.
Everytime he foreshadowed, I'd blurted the reason he immediately said right after. Absolutely PERFECT.
Now, the Russians are keeping the Ukrainians preoccupied with drones while they're approaching in...
On 1 January there were a minimum of 986K Ukrainians dead and a maximum of 124K Russians. The math allow for the Ukrainian number to easily be double and the Russians half. I just copied this from a professional counter in Russia dedicated to this cause.
Ukraine has been through 3 armies fighting Russia. They've had 3 major mobilisations and been constantly grabbing dudes off the streets. They can't even rotate troops, I've read plenty interviews of Ukrainian soldiers that said they've been fighting non stop since the beginning.
I think total casualties by now are well over a milli
The defense-offense casualty ratio logic works only on tactical level, even when all things are equal.
On operational level, once the offense is successful, the ratio gets reversed.
Reality is much harsher. Modern artillery, drones, and precise missle stikes take a much higher toll than the old artillery.
My count estimates about 1.5-1.6 million casualities for Ukraine and about 130-165k for Russia. So, the ratio is about 1:10 - 1:11 in Russian favour.
All Died for Putin - Trump Accords.
Ukraine has lost over a million in uniform,many of them non Ukrainian NATO troops .Russia reports about 80,000 Russian dead ,but its unclear whether that includes Chechens and Donetsk militias . NATOs Rutte says Russia produces as much ammunition and weapons every 3 months as NATO produces annually
In the dais of drones, trenches are just a trap for soldiers in defence.
I think your number is a little bit low they had around 3.5 million men eligible to be mobilized with a military that had 500,000 they upped that number to around 1.5 and had to start mobilizing again because they had deficits of 500,000 at least three times that I can remember. I honestly think the number is closer to 1.3 to 1.5 million. I might be wrong but if they had 3.5 million people to be drafted and maybe a million fled at the beginning of the war why do they need to draft 18 year old kids?
Generally one million Ukes, 100,000 Russians based on Mediazona and other factors such as mobilisations, ground lost, constantly increasing Russian gains, etc
why the cut at the end???
you do not know numbers - what are you discussing?
There is a method o estimating the losses by counting graves and hospitalizations.
Russia has excellent first aid, forward triage and close surgical facilities to reduce death. Ukraine abandons their wounded. but the commanders keep them on the rolls to pocket their salaries. So many Ukrainian families seek information on the loved ones whom then haven't heard from in many cases for over a year.
Have you seen the video fotage of thick forrests of ukranian flags covering every meter or so of the freshly added areas of cemetries? Those videos were posted fairly frequently since the beginning of Russia joining the conflict. Some time later those videos stopped comming and info leaked that ukranian govt file d a decree against filming the cemetries (+ militarily valuable objects + rocket/drone hitting the targets).
Since those vids came during the phase of the war which every wannabe -"expert" calls "Russia is getting kicked badly" I wouldn't even imagine how the cemetries would look like nowadays...
Million+ KIA
>normally offense suffers more casualties
You'll have a hard time finding a single one offensive operation like that. It's just not true, it all stems from completely misunderstanding the 3:1 ratio (it is not a rule even, it's an advice that says, that to conduct a succesful offensive operation, the side on the offensive has to have a 3:1 advantage, but that's baseline balance of power which factors in many things like indirect fire support; there are things that are hard to quantify, like better comunications, which can also play a decisive role. It says *absolutely nothing* about casualties). Also: completely missing the point later on. There are times when you're forced into attacking positions head-on, but even regardless of that it's the attacking side that's choosing when and where to fight, preparing the field with maneuver (shaping operations) and fire (artillery and air bombardment to destoy or suppress). In context of this war, where russians have a massive firepower advantage - this (russians suffering heavier casualties) makes no sense at all.
And that 3:1 ratio means that you should have 3 forces when a attacking. One giving suppressing fire while another do a flanking manoever and the third is just a force that occupy those defensive lines that is occupied after attack to relieve those attacking forces that are exhausted and out of ammo. As I undestand it at least.
War is hell Sir
War is the continuation of peace with other means, and peace is just the continuation of war. They cause themselves reciprocally, one is not possible without the other.
The Russian MOD just said a little over a million the other day, for what there word is worth to you
If anybody really wanted to know, we would know.
These people were surveilling all of our cell phone traffic during the pandemic to see where we were and what we were doing.
There are an awful lot of cell phones, not moving around anymore in Ukraine.
A simple satellite image or drone view of the other expanding Ukraine cemeteries would show the massive number of the burials
I´m not sure if this is true but to my understanding and according to satelite photos 2 cemetaries in Kharkov area expanded with about 30 000 graves in total just in september last year.
I don’t think the US have been very honest with their casualty numbers since Vietnam and especially not with the shocking term they use, “collateral”. This dehumanises the men, woman and children dead and makes them less noticeable, less significant! 🏴
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In October 2023, Ukrainian TV admitted over 1.1 *million* Ukrainian soldiers were dead or missing. Please send me a message for the video clip.
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zelensky said last week he had 800,000 men. he started with 1.2 million and he has drafted 500,000 3 times. Not hard to figure it out
This guys is a NATO SIMP 😂😂😂 Ukraine has lost 7KIA to 1 Russian KIA
We do. Over a million.
Death: 1.2 million
Wounded: 2.7 million
Only 1 mobilization in Russia (all reservists) in September 2022, mostly for military logistics, supply, and maintenance.
14 mobilizations in Ukraine (sometimes by force), and now they debates drafting 18 year olds...
How many Russians of mobilisation age have fled Russia? If Russia is happy and secure with its army manpower why is it relying on North Koreans, convicts and huge bribes to recruit personnel?
@@KeithMelville A military salary isnt a bribe.
@@KeithMelville "How many Russians of mobilisation age have fled Russia?" I had heard it should be about 100000, more than 50% had returned. Not really numbers that have any impact on anything, many that flee were not even suitable for army service anyway.
"If Russia is happy and secure with its army manpower why is it relying on North Koreans, convicts and huge bribes to recruit personnel?" It is not relying on North Koreans, Russia is using about 15-20% of it's armed forces so there is still plenty to take from.
It is true that some convicts did fight in the Wagner forces, how many idk, but it is not any huge number.
Isn't it fair to pay a decent salary to a person when you want him to risk his life? I am afraid that you do not understand how this salary is constructed and the deeper contains of a Russian army contract.
@@KeithMelville
1. I don't know. Many came back. In 2022 Russian citizens submitted 15,115 applications for residence permits in the EU. That's low for a country with a population of 145M.
2. There is no North Koreans in Ukraine. This is ridiculous propaganda. Supposedly 50,000 NK soldiers... but they are nowhere to be seen. So, are they ghosts or not there?
3. A prisoner is expensive ($$$) and brings nothing to the country. So why not give him the same amount ($$$) in exchange for a year in the army and his freedom?
On foreign dating websites I've told Ukrainian women their country has lost over a million soldiers and 50,000-100,000 foreign fighters from about a dozen other countries. They don't really argue with me about it.
Apparently Ukraine has lost around 1.1 Million Solders and Russia around 100 thousand , And Watching the Videos and War mapping this is correct , Now Ukraines losses are much much higher due to their failed Invasions into Russia so this 1.1 Million will soon be 1.5 Million, this is WW1 Figures 🙏😔
Larry t-shirt Johnson former cia , say Ukrainien losses killed 1,600,000 . Wounded X3 .
Leave country one way ticket over 15 million , NATO finish Ukraine....
Are these useful idiots or paid shills? Hard to tell these day.
You're one of those shoot the messenger Banderite.
You are zelensky stooge
If Russia lost 100,000 dead, then the Ukraine had lost at least 300,000 for sure. The tragedy of the war is coming to an end apparently at least I hope this year.
This video says one thing. The next 6 videos in the algorithm say that Russia is on the verge of collapse. 600,000 Russian casualties is what the other videos claim. So, what is the truth?
the truth is here. The other 6 are propaganda
Just check out any military map
This is a war of attrition
Russia has a huge population advantage
No skin in the game here but it's clear that Russia is advancing whilst Ukraine is retreating. There are an awful lot of fantasists in the West who believe plucky little Ukraine might still win. Not a chance.
Just look at the reality on the ground and who struggling the most and you'll see who telling the truth 😂
@@jona826 Ukraine could win if they had the FULL support of NATO. But they do not. Whatever support they get trickles in, making it clear that NATO cares more about funneling money to the oligarchs owning the military-financial-industrial complex than winning. And more so this war proves that Russia and the west have become second tier nations. China decides who will win (if they care to) since they are the ones with any real industry these days. So even if Russia "wins" they only win the position of being China's DDR. This whole war is idiocy which never should have happened. It is against the interests of people in NATO and Russia and only serves to enrich our masters on either side.
0:50 the Ukrainians also do that and they’re both of equal quality
DIIA should have all the information, just saying
My friends! Where is the Love of GOD, to our fellow man?
If Ukraine were not under the NATO umbrella, the public would have little to no information about the casualty figures. However, we can estimate the level of Russian casualties. The attrition rate is between 2 to 10 in favor of Russia, based on the strength and capacity for attrition in this war.
Currently, this represents Ukraine's third army, in addition to the first one, which numbers around 1.1 million troops.
When we see towns Russia has taken, it is fields of brocken bricks and concrete. What is happened to "defenders" in hese places? Russian soldiers have to check for what left over in these towns. Sometimes they get in to fight, sometimes not. Everybody have drones, we see mostly drones attacking. Everything else is not filmed...
5x higher than recorded. 😢
The American government has been transparent? Since when? One more site I will only visit once and never again.
Only question should remain who, how many, will be tried and sentenced to this Holocausts. Zelensky should be defenatly No. I. Then from Western countries.'
3 million an actual exact number ...
From the donbass militia, to wagner volunteers and inmates as well as kadyrov forces, foreigners and supposed korean gmo soldiers, the casualties of russian army contractors is likely quite low.
It took them more than a month to supposedly captured 2 koreans, and they claimed there are tens of thousands of them in kursk. Pro-ukrianians dont know that their claims can be looked at with a microscope and they shatter.-
This video is nonsense
Just a guessing game and gargage - no factual basis
You are very wrong.. the casualties are in 5 to 1 in favour of the Ukrainians.
Ukraine are trading little russian advanced land to big russian casualties.
Russian doesn't matter losses in contrary for the Ukraine, as they don't have so many human resources,they are being intelligent.
It is estimated 800.000 Russians versus 160.000 Ukrainians.
FIRST
We all know that its a ratio of 6 to 1 in Russias favor........any questions ?????
Russia typically just gets ukro numbers by just listening in to ukro army radio chatter.
Geeez, does that guy ever stop picking at his nose?!!
Good analysis especially compared to the experts from BBC.
Awesome show!
But Ukraine is winning the war with only 31000 KIA according to Zelensky accurate data given by himself
Acting doesn't have to be based on factual reality to seem believable, it just needs to be perform believably for most people to believe it.
@K2teknik. Next few years we will have Zelensky saying that Ukraine is winning the war and only lost 31000 KIA according to himself.
15/1/2025AD
According to mediazona 84,761 Russian
According to UA Losses 68,437 Ukrainian
both are accurate
Battle kills since the Dawn of humanity have been incorrect.
I doubt 80000 casualties in the Russian side.
Holodomor 2.020s.. kind of feel like Putin and Zelensky are on the same team playing their parts.
Holodomor was the Ukrainian part of a wider spread famine, not really a war as such.
NZRU-Z 🙏🏾💪🏾🇳🇿🇷🇺.
it all works differently , defense is softened and hurt, sometimes completely overpowered.
Besides, rested units attack tired and exhausted by stress losses and bombardment.
Why doesn't Media zona do the same thing for Ukrainian casualties? Why only Russian. If Russia lost 100,000 troops but you don't know what Ukraine lost how can you even put those Russian figures in context? If Russia lost 100,000 troops but Ukraine only lost 30,000 that would make Ukraine look like they were winning. But if Ukraine lost 300,000 while Russia lost 100,000 then it's a completely different story. You need numbers on both sides, otherwise no one can say how bad the situation is.
Mediazona isnt that reliable. They are better than others, but at one point, they didnt like the numbers they got, and started to create numbers based on their wishes.
60,000 in Kursk alone for Ukraine.
The media is, when it comes to this Russia/Ukraine conflict, just a propaganda tool for whomever support/sponsor that particularity media. Talk bad about the opposite side, truth or lie, it doesn't matter, and praise 'our' side to above the clouds, truth or lie, it doesn't matter.
The goal is to make our side feel that "we are winning", and when the opposite side read/watch our 'truth' then they should feel that they are loosing, you know lower their morale.
The more a media is dependent on financial aid, the less credible is its coverage of events their sponsors have an opinion about. In my native, free and democratic EU country all internal medias that matters are heavily depending on state support one way or an other, and if a media piss in the wrong direction then their state sponsorship is withdrawn next time the government rethink the "media support act", guess how trustworthy their covering is just on that account.
It is very few medias in this world that are financial strong enough to be fully free and independent, and even then they still have an owner that can have strong points of view in whatever direction, so really free and independent medias do not exist, just choose your favorite.
In pass battles those numbers were fabricated also. It makes their army seem more bad ass